Re: [techtalk] Fred Moody hooey
Peace, my friends. There is no doubt the entire article is flamebait. His purpose is to be inflammatory. I'm a recovering former ZDNet employee, I know that editors demand outrageousness. Clicks are clicks, doesn't matter if they are mad or glad. His sources are counting entries on Bugtraq and "security experts". He does not offer much real data. Sloppy journalism. It is useful to be specific and name weaknesses and problems. That is how things get improved. Moody's columns are too general to be useful. For example, when he says the BSDs are more secure and robust, I want to know the details. I don't disagree, I've heard that from other, better informed sources who listed the specifics. However he is not consistent, he cites the open source code of Linux as a major flaw. What about the two BSDs he cites- FreeBSD and OpenBSD? Not worth raising your blood pressure over. Flame him and move on. A more interesting viewpoint from Ransom Love, CEO of Caldera. He says Linux is a long way from being ready for the enterprise: "In his presentation, he said, "A single operating-system kernel cannot scale" to all demands and needs..." http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2616675,00.html - Original Message - From: "J-Mag Guthrie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:22 PM Subject: [techtalk] I asked my resident alphageek... > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:56:54 -0500 (CDT) > From: Jonathan Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: J-Mag Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Check this out > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, J-Mag Guthrie wrote: > > > http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/FredMoody/moody.html > > Oh, okay. He's the guy who added up all the columns listing defect counts > for Linux distributions, including "aggregate" and concluded that Linux > was the "worst operating system ever". > > He's got a lot of nerve complaining about people who do "not seem to > read, understand, or otherwise know how to employ the English language" > when he adds the aggregate total to all the other columns in the > statistics to reach his conclusion. > > He's also lying in this column. He said nothing about relative market > share in his previous message. He also quoted not ONE "security > expert" as the basis of his conclusion The conclusion was based solely on > the total number of defects reported. > > Based on the fact that he used "fighting words" in his original message, > that he doesn't know what he's talking about, and the fact that he lies > through his teeth about the focus of the previous article, I have to > conclude that he's a moron. > -- > Jonathan Guthrie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Brokersys +281-580-3358 http://www.brokersys.com/ > 12703 Veterans Memorial #106, Houston, TX 77014, USA > > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] There's nothing more I hate
Well, just look at the 'credits' at the bottom of the article. The man has been hopelessly brainwashed by Microsoft. Unfortunately, the news world has not learned to distinguish the difference between 'opinion' and 'fact'. An editorial is not a news feature. It is an _opinion_ piece. Obviously this 'news' guy hasn't figured that out either. So much for his 'superior intellect'... ~wirren "Lilly S." wrote: > > than when someone sends me this article: > > http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/FredMoody/moody.html > > Lilly > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Where's your favorite place to get software?
I'm just amazed at the number of places you can get Linux CDs at these days. Anyone care to recommend a favorite place? It seems that the various sites have vastly different pricing schemes for the various distributions. I'm kind of on the cheap side myself, but would like to know what the difference is (e.g. Cheap*Bytes has Debian 2.2 binary (3 CDs) for 6.99; it's 29.95 at Linux-CD). Thanks! Jen ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Where's your favorite place to get software?
I just asked my husband about this and he said that there isn't a difference in the actual software (CD's) He also said that Linux-CD is probably more expensive because they only sell Linux CD's whereas Cheap*Bytes sells Linux, FreeBSD and all sorts of stuff. You might want to see if there is anything extra you get from Linux-CD seeing as they cost more...maybe a book (Installation Guide or something) that comes with the CD's. Hope that helps some. Shawn Ann --- "jennyw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >I'm just amazed at the number of places you can get Linux CDs at these days. >Anyone care to recommend a favorite place? > >It seems that the various sites have vastly different pricing schemes for >the various distributions. I'm kind of on the cheap side myself, but would >like to know what the difference is (e.g. Cheap*Bytes has Debian 2.2 binary >(3 CDs) for 6.99; it's 29.95 at Linux-CD). > >Thanks! > >Jen > > > > > >___ >techtalk mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk _ Visit http://www.shawnann.com and don't forget to sign the guestbook. ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Apache problems
Kill one problem, another pops up :( Now Apache is taking forever to load a web page (actually any box trying to connect to it timesout). And the weird part is it is not just a problem for machines trying to access it remotely, but when I try connecting to localhost (127.0.0.1), it can take over 2 minutes for a simple page to load! Ping works fine and I checked if it was the same problem as proftpd (hostname lookup) and it wasn't. Anyone have any ideas? Should I just dpkg --purge apache? - Kathleen
[techtalk] Followup to previous email
Now for some reason the box isn't responding to pings. Well, lets hope a good reboot fixes that :O - Kathleen
[techtalk] Ok, boxes can ping now
CAT5 was half out of the NIC, plugged it back in and now they can ping each other. yay! But still slow or nonexistent access to the Debian/Apache/PHP box. - Kathleen
[techtalk] !@#$#$YT emachines and XF86
okay, I have in front of me an emachines box. I decided to put Slackware 7.1 on it. Installation itself seemed to go well. But I am running into problems when trying to configure xwindows. I'm using the XF86Setup utility and I swear to god, I can't get the mouse to work. I have tried all of the different mouse protocols, as many device names as I could and still the mouse is not recognized. Now I also have an internal modem in that machine (a pcmia win modem, which means more fun for me later, i hear) and i wonder if it's possible that there's a conflict with the COM ports there. anyone run into a similar problem like this? I swear to god, I have configured XF86 on many many *nix platforms before and never have I come across something like this. thanks in advance for all your help! --alissa __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] hi, I'm brand spanking new
Hi, found linuxchix.org while surfing... I'm an utter linux almost newborn. I've been using Winblows forever and have recently decided to give Linux a try. This weekend I'd like to install Red Hat on my Compaq Presario 5240. I have a new HP that I'm keeping Winblows on due to my dependence on the applications that run on the M$ platform. I picked up a copy of SE Using Red Hat Linux that includes version 6.2. Tonight I've been looking up my hardware on the compatibility list at Red Hat. Of course I can't find everything listed, but I figured I'd try and install it anyway and see what happens. Can anyone give me some advice? I'm reading the manual, but we all know that untold surprises await me. right? thanxs! Jere ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] hi, I'm brand spanking new
Welcome! Having the HP is good, in case you need to get online. No need to get in a holy war, the silly things are just tools. Use what works. Many good answers here, tho for a newbie I think www.linuxnewbie.com is pretty darn good. And www.linux.com. Also you might want the O'Reilly book "Running Linux." I think it is the best Linux manual. Red Hat's own Web site has lots of good information. To avoid getting yelled at in forums like this, tho this is the most gracious forum I have ever seen, read back a few days to see if your question has already been addressed. But don't be shy about posting, deleting the mean ones is fun and you always get answers. Enjoy. ~ Carla Schroder www.bratgrrl.com ace PC Goddess plain English spoken here ~ - Original Message - From: "jboudell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 10:08 PM Subject: [techtalk] hi, I'm brand spanking new > Hi, > > found linuxchix.org while surfing... > I'm an utter linux almost newborn. I've been using Winblows forever and > have recently decided to give Linux a try. This weekend I'd like to > install Red Hat on my Compaq Presario 5240. I have a new HP that I'm > keeping Winblows on due to my dependence on the applications that run on > the M$ platform. I picked up a copy of SE Using Red Hat Linux that > includes version 6.2. Tonight I've been looking up my hardware on the > compatibility list at Red Hat. Of course I can't find everything > listed, but I figured I'd try and install it anyway and see what > happens. > > Can anyone give me some advice? I'm reading the manual, but we all know > that untold surprises await me. right? > > thanxs! > Jere > > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] AOL for Linux
Sorry, but I wasn't sure which mailing list to send this to, so I sent it to all 4 of them. Someone within the last few weeks was asking about using AOL for Linux and my husband gave me this url for me to post. Hope it helps the person(s) who were wondering. http://www.techpages.com/linux.htm Shawn Ann _ Visit http://www.shawnann.com and don't forget to sign the guestbook. ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
