Re: [techtalk] don't beat me up(:

2000-06-18 Thread Anne Forker

Hi,

On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Jeff Frasca wrote:

> Just to pick a nit, class A, B, and C address are all valid, however,
> you are probably thinking of the reserved ranges within those classes.
> 
> Class A IP Addresses run from 0.0.0.0-127.255.255.255

I think class A is merely the range 1.x.x.x - 126.x.x.x, since 0.0.0.0
covers all IP addresses of all classes and 127.x.x.x is reserved too.

wirren, I would try to figure out whether you still have permission to use
http (if there is just the proxy and no firewall denying http connections
from your machine's IP address) by disabling the proxy settings.

-- Anne






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Re: [techtalk] don't beat me up(:

2000-06-18 Thread Helena Verrill

I don't know much about this kind of stuff, but
if you still have email access where you work,
can't you use that to access the web?  Or do
the security measures or whatever prevent that too?

There's a web page at
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/
explaining how to get the the internet from email, and
a page at
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/servers.html
listing lots of servers you can use.

Eg, I just tried "grabpage.com" - they have a web page at
http://www.grabpage.com/
about how to use them, which is pretty simple.
All you do is send an email to 
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and the subject line should be e.g.,
URL: http://www.blahblahetc.com
or 
HTML: http://www.blahblahwhatever.com
depending on whether you want the html code in or not.
Then grabpage will send you back the web page text.

Maybe you can use this to get to the web?

Helena



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Re: [techtalk] don't beat me up(:

2000-06-18 Thread Jeff Frasca

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, Anne Forker wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Jeff Frasca wrote:
> 
> > Just to pick a nit, class A, B, and C address are all valid, however,
> > you are probably thinking of the reserved ranges within those classes.
> > 
> > Class A IP Addresses run from 0.0.0.0-127.255.255.255
> 
> I think class A is merely the range 1.x.x.x - 126.x.x.x, since 0.0.0.0
> covers all IP addresses of all classes and 127.x.x.x is reserved too.

Technically no.  A Class A address starts with the first bit `0', so
both 0.0.0.0 & 127.x.x.x are Class A IP addresses.  However, they do
have special meaning.

Jeff

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Re: [techtalk] don't beat me up(:

2000-06-18 Thread Clair Mooza

Sounds like they are just using the proxy and not the firewall to restrict
access to the web if you have some access to the web and you could surf
before the proxy server was installed.  I could be wrong though.  You said
you were using
Microsoft.  That's easy.  Just go to tools (depending on which Windows
version but
all of the following is the same) and then internet options, connections,
LAN settings, and make sure the "use a proxy service" box is unchecked.  You
could at least try this to start, then if it doesn't work then it is set up
on the firewall, and I don't know any way other than cracking the password
to get into that to make changes.

-Clair





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[techtalk] dialup problems RH 6.1, Corel, Caldera

2000-06-18 Thread Carla Schroder

Hello all,
I've been testing the above 3 distros, and with every single one getting 
dial-up networking to work is a serious hassle. KPPP does not do the job, 
nor does the RH PPP dialer. For every one I have to dig into the guts of 
the system (hurrah for "Running Linux"!).
In RH 6.1 I had to install ppp & start from scratch. Same symptom every 
one: it dials, "ppp daemon dies unexpectedly." In fact I am majorly peeved 
with RH 6.1, sucker shipped with a lot of glitches.
It seems I am not the only one with this difficulty, the vendor newsgroups 
are full of similar tales of woe. I also hear from people who get up and 
running easily, using KPPP. It seems the vendors would want to make 
connecting to the Internet as no-brainer as possible, given they are trying 
to expand their markets, and getting online is job 1 for most users. My 
expectation is to input the usual information- login, password, DNS 
servers, and dialup number- Then connect and surf happily. (Except for 
poopy ole Netscape, but that rant is for another day.)
As I have finally gotten connected with all 3, I was wondering if anyone 
has some insights to offer. Is there a common procedure I am missing? Has 
anyone gotten setup successfully just using KPPP or RH PPP dialer? Is it an 
ISP thing?
Thanks very much,

=
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www.bratgrrl.com
Ace PC Goddess
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Re: [techtalk] dialup problems RH 6.1, Corel, Caldera

2000-06-18 Thread Phil Savoie

Hi Carla,

To be honest, I have been using RH6.0 through 6.2 and have no problems
with ppp.  I used the netcfg utility to set up the interface and ensure
that iwas configured to come up at boot time.  When I belonged to
sprint, they would allow unlimited internet access in 5 hour
increments.  Once the 5 hours were up they would disconnect you. RH ppp
recognized the break right away and happily re-dialed for a connection. 
Worked every time for two years.

Regards,

Phil

Carla Schroder wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I've been testing the above 3 distros, and with every single one getting
> dial-up networking to work is a serious hassle. KPPP does not do the job,
> nor does the RH PPP dialer. For every one I have to dig into the guts of
> the system (hurrah for "Running Linux"!).
> In RH 6.1 I had to install ppp & start from scratch. Same symptom every
> one: it dials, "ppp daemon dies unexpectedly." In fact I am majorly peeved
> with RH 6.1, sucker shipped with a lot of glitches.
> It seems I am not the only one with this difficulty, the vendor newsgroups
> are full of similar tales of woe. I also hear from people who get up and
> running easily, using KPPP. It seems the vendors would want to make
> connecting to the Internet as no-brainer as possible, given they are trying
> to expand their markets, and getting online is job 1 for most users. My
> expectation is to input the usual information- login, password, DNS
> servers, and dialup number- Then connect and surf happily. (Except for
> poopy ole Netscape, but that rant is for another day.)
> As I have finally gotten connected with all 3, I was wondering if anyone
> has some insights to offer. Is there a common procedure I am missing? Has
> anyone gotten setup successfully just using KPPP or RH PPP dialer? Is it an
> ISP thing?
> Thanks very much,
> 
> =
> Carla Schroder
> www.bratgrrl.com
> Ace PC Goddess
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [techtalk] dialup problems RH 6.1, Corel, Caldera

2000-06-18 Thread Glen Strom

At 05:48 PM 6/18/00 -0700, Carla wrote:
>   As I have finally gotten connected with all 3, I was wondering if anyone 
>has some insights to offer. Is there a common procedure I am missing? Has 
>anyone gotten setup successfully just using KPPP or RH PPP dialer? Is it an 
>ISP thing?

I had a terrible time getting connected in the beginning. I found a page on
a website called Control-Escape that explained the process clearly. I have
no trouble now connecting with Red Hat or Mandrake.

You can see the page at http://www.control-escape.com/lx-internet.html  .





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[techtalk] Permissions

2000-06-18 Thread Carolyn Jarie Getter


Someone please tell me there exists an explanation of file and directory
permissions that will make them make sense!  I keep thinking that I understand
them, but then I find myself in a tangle that I am sure is caused by improper
permissions.  (I am still -- after three months or so -- trying to get assorted
apps just installed!)  After managing to mess myself up so royally that the
only way out was a reinstall (yet again), I nearly caved in and went back to
that Blue Screen OS today.  *shudder*

I have done searches online, but I can't seem to find anything more than the
most basic information (r = read, ), which I already know.  There has got to
be more than that to the darned things.

Carolyn



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Re: [techtalk] Permissions

2000-06-18 Thread Robert Wade

Yes, Yes, there is =) :

First, there are lots of neato tricks that people like us like to use to
impress people such as 'chmod ug+rwx file' (which gives yourself and your
group read, right, and execute access to 'file') but I'll try and give you
some of the basics. btw, I'm not really one of those rtfd (read the
fucking manual) people, but I'd strongly suggest you drop about thirty
bucks on a
book such as Running Linux (from o'reilly, the tour de force of open
source book publishers). It tells you about all this neato stuff in quite
a bit of detail.

First:

read access=4
write access=2
execute=1
 
note that you can add these togethor, for instance, to give someone read
and execute access would be '5' or to give someone full, it would be '7'

the order for chmod is (yourself)(your groupe)(everyone else).

so, to give yourself full access, your group read access, and everyone
else read access, you could give the command 'chmod 744 file' where file
is the name of the file or whatever (you can do this with directories,
btw).

An interesting side note would be the 'chown' command that changes the
ownership of a file or directory. so if you wanted to transfer ownership
of the file to another user, you could do 'chown user file,' you can guess
what 'user' and 'file' symbolize.

Robert


On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Carolyn Jarie Getter wrote:

> 
> Someone please tell me there exists an explanation of file and directory
> permissions that will make them make sense!  I keep thinking that I understand
> them, but then I find myself in a tangle that I am sure is caused by improper
> permissions.  (I am still -- after three months or so -- trying to get assorted
> apps just installed!)  After managing to mess myself up so royally that the
> only way out was a reinstall (yet again), I nearly caved in and went back to
> that Blue Screen OS today.  *shudder*
> 
> I have done searches online, but I can't seem to find anything more than the
> most basic information (r = read, ), which I already know.  There has got to
> be more than that to the darned things.
> 
> Carolyn
> 
> 
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