[techtalk] blank screen at boot
this is not a linux-specigic question, but maybe somebody can help: after putting together my new box (aopen ax67c m/b, celeron 333, 64 mb sdram, ati rage graphics, atx case) and turning it on, it does nothing - the screen stays black, keyboard LEDs don't react. However, the cpu fan works and the hdd seems to go round, too. Any ideas? -- marie ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] blank screen at boot
Hi Marie, Sounds like either: 1) the power on the back of the case is set to 230 rather than 115 if your in the US or the other way around if you're in Europe. or 2) something (the CPU - usually, or a card or the memory) is not seated correctlly or 3) the power connection ot the mainboard is not in right. Try one of these, if they don't help it could be one of the components is bad. You're not getting into the BIOS (the black screen) and that in my experience is either the power option on the case or the CPU not seated correctly. Hope this helps. Nicci Marie Fischer wrote: this is not a linux-specigic question, but maybe somebody can help: after putting together my new box (aopen ax67c m/b, celeron 333, 64 mb sdram, ati rage graphics, atx case) and turning it on, it does nothing - the screen stays black, keyboard LEDs don't react. However, the cpu fan works and the hdd seems to go round, too. Any ideas? -- marie ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk -- Nicci Tynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Want Some Weird? Have some LEXX" S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [techtalk] blank screen at boot
Having built a number of boxes myself, I have found that this type of behavior can be one of several things. In addition to trying what Nicci suggested, you may also want to see if the motherboard is shorting out. Lots of times I find that the metal standoffs used to support the mainboard inside the case cause an electrical short. What you can do to test this, (though it is a drag) is take out the mainboard, set it outside the case on the anti-static bag it came in and hook everything up and try turning it on. See if you get a display now. If you do, then you know that there's probably a short. Use less of the metal standoffs (two should do fine). Also, I've learned to replace the metal ones they give you with Nylon ones which eliminates the problem altogether. Why they don't just send you nylon ones instead of metal ones is really beyond me. It seems like an obvious choice*shrug* Also, try taking out all the cards and powering up the system with just the processor and the memory, to see if one of the cards isn't causing a problem. At 05:53 AM 5/8/2000 , you wrote: >this is not a linux-specigic question, but maybe somebody can help: after >putting together my new box (aopen ax67c m/b, celeron 333, 64 mb sdram, >ati rage graphics, atx case) and turning it on, it does nothing - the >screen stays black, keyboard LEDs don't react. However, the cpu fan works >and the hdd seems to go round, too. Any ideas? > >-- >marie > > > >___ >techtalk mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] blank screen at boot
hi marie - here's a potluck list of things that come to mind : - make sure your mainboard is mounted correctly with no parts of it touching the back plate. (metal - on - metal = bad heheh) - as a test, unplug your IDE cables, floppy cable, all cards except video, and your led's. try to boot. even a backwards led can keep the machine from booting (not very common but some boards are sensitive about that). if you are able to boot at this point, add back one thing at a time to find out which device is your culprit. - if you have access to another memory chip or cpu, you may want to try them. if either is bad you'd obviously be unable to boot (though at home it's hard cuz most people don't have access to a bunch of new parts!) - does your aopen board have a "clear cmos" jumper? (most do). find it and make sure it's in the "normal" position and not "clear." - does your motherboard have jumpers for the cpu settings etc? or is it a pnp bios (where the cpu setup is done in the bios)? make sure your cpu voltage is set correctly if it's not pnp (as well as the bus speed - i think the cel 333 is still at 66mhz, and multiplier - probably 5.0. your mainboard manual should have a chart you can check). - if your board has both socket 370 and slot 1, there may be a jumper to choose which you're using. also, (though i don't recall if the cel 333's come in socket 370 or not) if your board and chip are socket 370, make sure it's not the FC-ppga (flip -chip, the newer socket - doesn't always accept the older non-flip chip socket chips like the older celerons). okay i'm out of ideas!! =) i hope one of those helped - note that those are in no particular order =)i find it's uusally easiest to just rip off all the connectors first and see if it boots with just mem-cpu-vid-keyboard. 90% of the time that will give you a bunch of clues as to what's failing. any questions, let me know! shelly techchron.com beta http://members.home.net/guppy3/techchron/index.html - Original Message - From: Marie Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 6:53 AM Subject: [techtalk] blank screen at boot > this is not a linux-specigic question, but maybe somebody can help: after > putting together my new box (aopen ax67c m/b, celeron 333, 64 mb sdram, > ati rage graphics, atx case) and turning it on, it does nothing - the > screen stays black, keyboard LEDs don't react. However, the cpu fan works > and the hdd seems to go round, too. Any ideas? > > -- > marie > > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] blank screen at boot
eh, one time that happened to meI had fried the motherboard. =( oh wait, i can't remember if my hd was spinning though... On Mon, 8 May 2000, Marie Fischer wrote: > this is not a linux-specigic question, but maybe somebody can help: after > putting together my new box (aopen ax67c m/b, celeron 333, 64 mb sdram, > ati rage graphics, atx case) and turning it on, it does nothing - the > screen stays black, keyboard LEDs don't react. However, the cpu fan works > and the hdd seems to go round, too. Any ideas? > > -- > marie > > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] blank screen at boot
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 01:53:41PM +0300, Marie Fischer wrote: > this is not a linux-specigic question, but maybe somebody can help: after > putting together my new box (aopen ax67c m/b, celeron 333, 64 mb sdram, > ati rage graphics, atx case) and turning it on, it does nothing - the > screen stays black, keyboard LEDs don't react. However, the cpu fan works > and the hdd seems to go round, too. Any ideas? Ditto to what everyone else said and: Does it have a floppy drive? This is the classic symptom of a reversed floppy cable... Also, is the speaker hooked up? Do you get any diagnostic beeps? -- Audin Malmin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced?
Hi, Hope everyones weekend was good. Quick (unusual) question...Is there any way to hide the boot screen (on Red Hat 6.1)? I would like to replace it with short stories and poetry and pictures if possible. If so, where do I put in a script for this? Can it be done? I would really like to personalize my Linux Box. Thanks, Davida ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
RE: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced?
Thanks for the Link Liz. What I am refering to is the Red Hat specific screen (ie Welcome to Red Hat..). Davida -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Cortell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:40 AM To: tech talk (E-mail) Subject: Re: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced? Are you talking about the very first screen you see, before all the boot messages scroll by? That's the BIOS splash screen.. The i-opener discussion board at www.linux-hacker.net just had a thread about replacing it. Futzing with your BIOS is a bit risky; be sure to back up the old BIOS image and have a handy method for reflashing your hapless chip. Liz Cortell Davida Schiff wrote: > Hi, > > Hope everyones weekend was good. Quick (unusual) question...Is there any way > to hide the boot screen (on Red Hat 6.1)? I would like to replace it with > short stories and poetry and pictures if possible. If so, where do I put in > a script for this? Can it be done? I would really like to personalize my > Linux Box. > > Thanks, > > Davida > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced?
Are you talking about the very first screen you see, before all the boot messages scroll by? That's the BIOS splash screen.. The i-opener discussion board at www.linux-hacker.net just had a thread about replacing it. Futzing with your BIOS is a bit risky; be sure to back up the old BIOS image and have a handy method for reflashing your hapless chip. Liz Cortell Davida Schiff wrote: > Hi, > > Hope everyones weekend was good. Quick (unusual) question...Is there any way > to hide the boot screen (on Red Hat 6.1)? I would like to replace it with > short stories and poetry and pictures if possible. If so, where do I put in > a script for this? Can it be done? I would really like to personalize my > Linux Box. > > Thanks, > > Davida > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] 1st Linux install
Hi, I am new to this list too and an introduction will follow soon. On Mon, 8 May 2000, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 10:11:23AM -0700, Clair Mooza wrote: > > Hi, I am very new to this message board and also to Linux. What a great > > find this site and these message boards are!! I have used Linux (Slackware > > and HP) a little bit at school, but not yet at home. I want to install > > Linux on my computer at home (Red Hat 5.2), but don't really know the best > > way to do it. I have four partitions on my hard drive. Three of them are > > 2.0 GB and the other is just a really small 8-10MB or something equally as > > useless. I have Windows 98 OS on the first partition, applications for 98 > > on the second partition, and NT server 4.0 on third partition (which I am > > eager to get rid of!). What would be the best way to get this install > > going? I was thinking Partition Magic and then formatting the third > > partition to a Linux file system might be a good way, any other ideas? If > > Partition Magic would be good, what next? No advice would be insulting! > > Okay, well maybe to turn on/off computer... : ) Thank you very much in > > advance. > > Having never used Partition Magic (in fact, I'm barely able to spell it), I > won't comment on that option, Oh, hm, I actually think it might be a good help in this case. You have PM 4.0 or higher, Clair, do you? Then you should use it. If your Windows partition are not entirely full yet, you may decrease their size and put a small /boot partition (5-10 megabytes) into the space. This doesn't work with the Windows fdisk program because it only knows 2 primary partitions (or: a primary and an extended one). But all other OSes can handle up to 4 primary partitions (of which one should be an extended one). Your harddisk setup is currently as follows: 1. primary /dev/hdX1 2 GBWindows System 2. extended /dev/hdX2 about 4 GB 3. logical /dev/hdX5 2 GBWindows Apps 4. logical /dev/hda6 2 GBWin NT Server 5. logical /dev/hda7 10 MB ... I recommend to put your 10 MB partition just behind the Windows System partition and to make it a primary partition. Windows won't bother about it because it doesn't handle more than one primary partition. It can't read the Linux filesystem anyway. Then, you should divide your NT Server partition into to subpartitions: one swap and one root partition. The swap partition shall be twice as big as your RAM is - if it is a small system with up to 64 Megs of RAM. When this is done, you can take your way and install Linux on the new root partition. :-) I don't recommend to use the Red Hat tools for partitioning the hard disk, in version 5.2 they are quite uncomfortable to use. But maybe this has changed now, I didn't have a chance to test the newer versions so far. Regards, Anne ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
RE: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced?
Hey Davida, There is a way to replace the xdm login screen, unfortunately I can't remeber off the top of my head. If you have "Running Linux" by Matt Welsh (sp?) I know that it's discussed. If not I can look it up for you when I get home. Regards, Harry Hoffman Product Systems Specialist Restaurants Unlimited Inc. 206.634.3082 x. 270 On Mon, 8 May 2000, Davida Schiff wrote: > Thanks for the Link Liz. What I am refering to is the Red Hat specific > screen (ie Welcome to Red Hat..). > > Davida > > -Original Message- > From: Elizabeth Cortell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:40 AM > To: tech talk (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced? > > > Are you talking about the very first screen you see, before all the boot > messages scroll by? That's the BIOS splash screen.. The i-opener discussion > board at www.linux-hacker.net just had a thread about replacing it. Futzing > with your BIOS is a bit risky; be sure to back up the old BIOS image and > have a > handy method for reflashing your hapless chip. > > Liz Cortell > > > Davida Schiff wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Hope everyones weekend was good. Quick (unusual) question...Is there any > way > > to hide the boot screen (on Red Hat 6.1)? I would like to replace it with > > short stories and poetry and pictures if possible. If so, where do I put > in > > a script for this? Can it be done? I would really like to personalize my > > Linux Box. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Davida > > > > ___ > > techtalk mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] 1st Linux install
Anne- Oh, my god, you are my savior!!! I thought something was wrong with me when I kept trying to figure out how to partition with the Linux tools and my setup. It was only seeing the extended (4.0 GB) and not the two logical partitions within it. I don't think that this scenario is the best way to figure out their partition utilities to be honest. It's just not sinking in, and I could really do some major screwing up here! Partition Magic is just so much easier for me. Yeah, I am definitely going to do it that way then. Thank you so much for your feedback!! -Clair When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep and you're never really awake. ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
RE: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced?
Thanks Harry. I have the book...I will check it out during lunch. Davida -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 12:12 PM To: Davida Schiff Cc: tech talk (E-mail) Subject: RE: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced? Hey Davida, There is a way to replace the xdm login screen, unfortunately I can't remeber off the top of my head. If you have "Running Linux" by Matt Welsh (sp?) I know that it's discussed. If not I can look it up for you when I get home. Regards, Harry Hoffman Product Systems Specialist Restaurants Unlimited Inc. 206.634.3082 x. 270 On Mon, 8 May 2000, Davida Schiff wrote: > Thanks for the Link Liz. What I am refering to is the Red Hat specific > screen (ie Welcome to Red Hat..). > > Davida > > -Original Message- > From: Elizabeth Cortell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:40 AM > To: tech talk (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced? > > > Are you talking about the very first screen you see, before all the boot > messages scroll by? That's the BIOS splash screen.. The i-opener discussion > board at www.linux-hacker.net just had a thread about replacing it. Futzing > with your BIOS is a bit risky; be sure to back up the old BIOS image and > have a > handy method for reflashing your hapless chip. > > Liz Cortell > > > Davida Schiff wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Hope everyones weekend was good. Quick (unusual) question...Is there any > way > > to hide the boot screen (on Red Hat 6.1)? I would like to replace it with > > short stories and poetry and pictures if possible. If so, where do I put > in > > a script for this? Can it be done? I would really like to personalize my > > Linux Box. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Davida > > > > ___ > > techtalk mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > > > ___ > techtalk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk > ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
RE: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced?
On 8 May, Davida Schiff wrote: > Thanks for the Link Liz. What I am refering to is the Red Hat specific > screen (ie Welcome to Red Hat..). > > Davida There are files called /etc/motd and /etc/issue that get printed to all ttys on startup. Change these to whatever you like. One nice option is the linuxlogo, which prints an ASCII art penguin - it's in Debian, but you can probably get it from Freshmeat and follow the instructions in the README to hae it start at bootup. Britta -- /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] blank screen at boot
Stephanie Alarcon wrote: > > eh, one time that happened to meI had fried the motherboard. =( oh > wait, i can't remember if my hd was spinning though... > Depending on what sort of fried motherboard you had, it might trigger the HD to power up Jenn V. -- "Do you ever wonder if there's a whole section of geek culture you miss out on by being a geek?" - Dancer. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Jenn Vesperman http://www.simegen.com/~jenn/ ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
RE: [techtalk] Can the boot up screen be replaced?
Hi Davida, On Mon, 8 May 2000, Davida Schiff wrote: > Thanks for the Link Liz. What I am refering to is the Red Hat specific > screen (ie Welcome to Red Hat..). Then Elizabeth has missed your point. ;-) In /etc, you have 2 files named issue and issue.net. These files contain the information which is displayed as a welcome screen. I've tried to change these files on a RedHat 5.2 box -- but something in the system rewrote them on shutdown or on bootup :-( -- maybe this has changed now. I'm not so familiar with RedHat Linux yet. You can find some information about the flags in man 5 issue man 5 issue.net Hope this helps. Anne ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
