Re: [techtalk] viewer for doc/excel
abs is a smaller util than staroffice ( SO is a memory hog ) it can open excel docs and has a macro language thats compatible with vba. i dont use it tho it seems to be the lightest out there ( KSpread being still in dev and Gnumeric having given me odd little things occationally) i dont use it because i have no need for a spread sheet - if i'm not mistaken i think you can tell netscape to associate the mime type for excel docs to abs url for abs -- http://www.ping.be/bertin/abs.shtml or your local freshmeat or linuxberg mirror i havnt checked freshmeat to see what its got on linuxberg there is an msword to html converter as well called mswordview its cli based so it might be possible to open the mime type with a perl script or some such and then open the .html file created (ps i havnt done any of this so if someone knows more about NS and mime types feel free to correct me - i'm just playing with ideas here ) Sean -- "Real Programmers dont work 9 to 5. If a Real Programmer is in at 9 in the morning, its because they haven't left from the night before." Sean Garrett Crow Data (PTY) LTD DarkFlame @timewiz.zanet.net http://www.icon.co.za/~df [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
RE: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Jeff wrote: >If you have a spare partition on your first disk, you might try installing >Linux there (even if it's only enough to boot the system) and putting all of >your data on the second disk (after the kernel is booted, the BIOS isn't used >any more, so there shouldn't be any trouble with that). I am having a problem with a dualboot myself, but on a single hard drive. I believe the problem may be that the Linux partition is too close to the end of the disk. In any case, I can't boot Linux without the boot disk, and when I do, "starting linux" it takes about 10 minutes for all the dots to go across the screen. Any hints on how to speed up my boot? Or on how to boot without the disk? (Other than delete the 4 gigs of mp3's off my windows partition and move the linux partition closer to the top ;p) Thanks, Sally [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] viewer for doc/excel
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Sean Garrett (MBD) wrote: > there is an msword to html converter as well called mswordview its cli > based so it might be possible to open the mime type with a perl script > or some such and then open the .html file created it's called wvHtml now, package should be wv (or wvVare?). Homepage is http://www.wvWare.com/. -- marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
> In any case, I can't boot Linux without the boot disk, and when I do, > "starting linux" it takes about 10 minutes for all the dots to go > across the screen. Any hints on how to speed up my boot? Boot off something other than a floppy. Zips can be made bootable, I think. > Or on how > to boot without the disk? (Other than delete the 4 gigs of mp3's off > my windows partition and move the linux partition closer to the top > ;p) Plug in another disk. Find an el-cheapo 100M or something and boot off it. Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
I had the same problem trying to install linux on an external drive on a PC running NT when I tried to install for a dual boot with lilo -- the 01 01 screen was a result of overwriting my master boot record. I don't recall the exact fix (the first time I reinstalled NT) but I believe that you can boot DOS from a floppy and then run fdisk -- unfortunately I can't remember the correct parameters and I can't find my notes but it may have been something link /mbr This rewrites the master boot record -- then you must reinstall lilo to do the dual boot. With an external SCSI drive for my linux I have given up trying the dual boot root and boot from a floppy -- what a drag. Hope this helps, Shirrell sb@pstat. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 29 23:30:30 2000 > X-Authentication-Warning: bb5.betterbox.net: ophey owned process doing -bs > X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Lines: 15 > > Hi, > > I've installed RedHat 6.1 to dual boot with Win98 using LILO. It got > upset and when I boot up, I get a lovely screen with 01 01 01 01 ... > It's a Dell Dimension L500r with two EIDE drives in there, Win98 on the > first one and Linux occupying the second one. Can anyone give me any > hints as to what the booting heartattack is over? > > Thanks, > Ophey > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > I found my notes with a windows 95 boot disk and indeed the proper command to restore a master boot record is: fdisk /mbr Shirrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Also check around the website of your hard-drive manufacturer. When I moved my Western Digital drive from slave (/dev/hdb) to master (/dev/hda) I was getting the same "L 01 01 01..." when attempting to boot. They had a simple DOS utility that, when run, created a special boot-floppy to (re)create the MBR. As soon as I did that, I was able to boot off an HD again instead of using that CDROM kludge I posted earlier. Andrew. On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Shirrell wrote: > I had the same problem trying to install linux on an external > drive on a PC running NT when I tried to install for a dual boot > with lilo -- the 01 01 screen was a result of overwriting my > master boot record. I don't recall the exact fix (the first time > I reinstalled NT) but I believe that you can boot DOS from a floppy > and then run fdisk -- unfortunately I can't remember the > correct parameters and I can't find my notes but it may have > been something link /mbr > > This rewrites the master boot record -- then you must reinstall > lilo to do the dual boot. With an external SCSI drive for my > linux I have given up trying the dual boot root and boot from > a floppy -- what a drag. > > Hope this helps, > Shirrell > sb@pstat. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > -- Andrew Plumb, VE3SLG mailto://andrew(at)plumb(dot)org http://www.plumb.org/tekmage/ spk2_0.0.2: http://www.plumb.org/tekmage/source/spk2/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Shirrell wrote: > > I had the same problem trying to install linux on an external > drive on a PC running NT when I tried to install for a dual boot > with lilo -- the 01 01 screen was a result of overwriting my > master boot record. I appologize if this has been mentioned, but lilo will not work with NT. They both seem to want the MBR in an exclusive manner, so you must pick one or the other, or find another os manager like System Commander (which will play nice with NT). If you are having problems with dual boot using lilo and NT there is no other workaround except booting from a non HD drive, or using a different boot loader. -- .oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cubicmetercrystal.com/ "You are the product of a mutational union of ~640Mbytes of genetic information." [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Hi folks My first post here, but I've been following you for a couple of months now. I only just got my first Linux box running, +/-, had the "above 1024th cylinder" problem, tried to fix it by re-installing lilo in mbr, then I Really had a problem, couldn't boot Windoze, finally held my breath and ran "lilo -u /dev/hda1", one of the three major fixes I had read about, it worked, so now I boot off a floppy. However, after I'm asked to choose what to boot by lilo (the one on the floppy, or the one still on /hda3? Who knows?), it says "booting from /hda3" or something real similar, but definitely hda3, where my root directory is, and it does *not* take all that long for the whole boot process. It could be faster? After reconfiguring lilo from hda3 to hda1, I didn't get any numbers, just "Li ", which I understand is symptomatic of the 1024 problem, so I'm guessing it would have boot to dos if it could have gotten past that point. Booting from floppy, if I try to choose dos, it says that's not an option, when I press tab for options, it lists dos. Oh well. I'm real, real new at this. -Bob Newman >I had the same problem trying to install linux on an external >drive on a PC running NT when I tried to install for a dual boot >with lilo -- the 01 01 screen was a result of overwriting my >master boot record. I don't recall the exact fix (the first time >I reinstalled NT) but I believe that you can boot DOS from a floppy >and then run fdisk -- unfortunately I can't remember the >correct parameters and I can't find my notes but it may have >been something link /mbr > >This rewrites the master boot record -- then you must reinstall >lilo to do the dual boot. With an external SCSI drive for my >linux I have given up trying the dual boot root and boot from >a floppy -- what a drag. > >Hope this helps, >Shirrell >sb@pstat. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
[techtalk] System time vs Resolved Time
Hi All, Another Question! On Madrake 6.1 if I type the date command I see the proper time. Netscape, on the other hand resolves the time exactly 5 hours off (GMT, I guess). My question is where in the system can this be changed? Better yet, where can I find the notation that denotes (Canada/Eastern) timezone. Would the file in question be /etc/timezone and if so we are back to the middle question. Thanks to all who respond, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Hello All, That is simply not the case. Here at work I have a dual boot NT/Linux(RH6.1) machine. There are great howto's around on getting it to work and it's not that difficult. Regards, Harry Hoffman Product Systems Specialist Restaurants Unlimited Inc. 206.634.3082 x. 270 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Snarfblat wrote: > > I appologize if this has been mentioned, but lilo will not work with > NT. They both seem to want the MBR in an exclusive manner, so you must > pick one or the other, or find another os manager like System Commander > (which will play nice with NT). > > If you are having problems with dual boot using lilo and NT there is no > other workaround except booting from a non HD drive, or using a > different boot loader. > > -- > .oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cubicmetercrystal.com/ > "You are the product of a mutational union >of ~640Mbytes of genetic information." > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
[techtalk] xseti
I just recently jumped on the seti bandwagon. I downloaded the unix client (text only) -- but there is reference to an 'xseti' add-on that plots the seti data. Does anyone know where I can download it? I couldn't find it on the setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu site (maybe I just don't know where to look). Thanks, -linda -- Linda A Walsh| Trust Technology, Core Linux, SGI [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (650) 933-5338 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
You can also buy a program "Partition Magic" -- costly for the use, about $70 bucks, but it can move the dos partition up by say 32Meg. Then you can put a /boot partition in that first 32 Meg and the rest of linux can go anywhere you like. The /boot partition can be as small as 2Meg, but if you are like me, I usually have more than one bootable kernel on the boot partition (a good idea if you are testing and doing kernel builds). Also, for free in the Partition Magic prog, is a "Boot Magic", which can handle boot choices between Linux, DOS, NT, etc... I know it is possible just to use lilo to dual boot DOS, but when I tried it, it just complained, so I went with boot magic (as I'd already bought partition magic to shrink down my DOS partition). Yes -- you can change the sizes of both DOS and linux partitions w/o losing data. I used this first to make room for linux on my laptop, then later to shrink my one big linux partition down into separate partitions for /var, /tmp, / and /home (/boot was already separate and at before the DOS partition -- which had to get moved up). Wonderful program but costly for the amount of use you'll get out of it. -linda -- Linda A Walsh| Trust Technology, Core Linux, SGI [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (650) 933-5338 Jeff Dike wrote: > > > In any case, I can't boot Linux without the boot disk, and when I do, > > "starting linux" it takes about 10 minutes for all the dots to go > > across the screen. Any hints on how to speed up my boot? > > Boot off something other than a floppy. Zips can be made bootable, I think. > > > Or on how > > to boot without the disk? (Other than delete the 4 gigs of mp3's off > > my windows partition and move the linux partition closer to the top > > ;p) > > Plug in another disk. Find an el-cheapo 100M or something and boot off it. > > Jeff > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
RE: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
AHA! My DVD is bootable! And I have a CD-RW Will let you know if this works tonight... thanks Jeff! *wondering why I didn't think of that before... duh* Strange though, I never get an option of what OS to load. If the floppy is in the drive, it boots up Redhat like it's the only OS on my hd. If the floppy isn't there, it boots up Windoze just like IT's the only OS Is that common? -Sally -Original Message- From: Jeff Dike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting > In any case, I can't boot Linux without the boot disk, and when I do, > "starting linux" it takes about 10 minutes for all the dots to go > across the screen. Any hints on how to speed up my boot? Boot off something other than a floppy. Zips can be made bootable, I think. > Or on how > to boot without the disk? (Other than delete the 4 gigs of mp3's off > my windows partition and move the linux partition closer to the top > ;p) Plug in another disk. Find an el-cheapo 100M or something and boot off it. Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Thanks: gcc versions and bus error
Thanks to the folks that answered my question. The answers were much straighter than ones I could find elsewhere on the net. :) Take care, Becky Norum [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] xseti
On Mar 1, Linda Walsh conjectured: > I just recently jumped on the seti bandwagon. I downloaded the > unix client (text only) -- but there is reference to an 'xseti' > add-on that plots the seti data. Does anyone know where I can > download it? I couldn't find it on the setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu > site (maybe I just don't know where to look). It should be there. I saw it when I was going after unix-version 2. I can't remember exactly where I saw it, and I don't have time right now to go back and look. And Netscape likes to kill this poor little iBook. Silly memory hog. Conni -- I'm having some difficulty with the idea that an AI needs nookie. -Michael, User Friendly 6/01/99 http://www2.one-eyed-alien.net/~ccovingt http://www.angelfire.com/anime/Galadriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Snarfblat wrote: [deletia] > I appologize if this has been mentioned, but lilo will not work with > NT. They both seem to want the MBR in an exclusive manner, so you must > pick one or the other, or find another os manager like System Commander > (which will play nice with NT). As Harry mentioned, there's a howto which works quite nicely, particularly if your boot partition is NTFS. I suspect the problems relate to using NTFS as your boot partition instead of FAT. On my machine, I had NT4 installed/booting off a FAT partition, which LILO didn't seem to have any problems dealing with; I was using LILO as the loader, not the NT OS loader as recommended in the howto. Andrew. -- Andrew Plumb, VE3SLG mailto://andrew(at)plumb(dot)org http://www.plumb.org/tekmage/ spk2_0.0.2: http://www.plumb.org/tekmage/source/spk2/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
I have to heartily concur with Harry here. NT and Linux will play VERY nice together. Ive had more luck with NT-first-then-Linux installs, while a friend of mine swears by Linux-first-then-Nt installs. syscom is an incredible tool, if you can put your hands on it. I have an old version somewhere, but I can't find it, else i'd post it on my 'site. the multiboot howto is pretty extensive. --mandi On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello All, > That is simply not the case. Here at work I have a dual boot > NT/Linux(RH6.1) machine. There are great howto's around on getting it to > work and it's not that difficult. > Regards, > > Harry Hoffman > Product Systems Specialist > Restaurants Unlimited Inc. > 206.634.3082 x. 270 > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Snarfblat wrote: > > > > > I appologize if this has been mentioned, but lilo will not work with > > NT. They both seem to want the MBR in an exclusive manner, so you must > > pick one or the other, or find another os manager like System Commander > > (which will play nice with NT). > > > > If you are having problems with dual boot using lilo and NT there is no > > other workaround except booting from a non HD drive, or using a > > different boot loader. > > > > -- > > .oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cubicmetercrystal.com/ > > "You are the product of a mutational union > >of ~640Mbytes of genetic information." > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] xseti
There are actually several 'xseti's (by different names of course ;^) Some of the seti distributions contain an "xsetiathome" program (e.g. setiathome-2.0.i386-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1.tar has it, but setiathome-2.0.i686-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1.tar doesn't). Other choices are: KSetiWatch: http://ksetiwatch.sourceforge.net/download.html (found this on Linuxberg...er...Tucows for Linux) PerlSeti: http://perlseti.sourceforge.net/ (ok, it's not X, but it does the job and at the bottom of the page are a bunch of links to 6 other products. [I use this to monitor how my other box is doing via telnet.] :^) Stephan At 09:34 3/1/00 -0800, you wrote: >I just recently jumped on the seti bandwagon. I downloaded the >unix client (text only) -- but there is reference to an 'xseti' >add-on that plots the seti data. Does anyone know where I can >download it? I couldn't find it on the setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu >site (maybe I just don't know where to look). > >Thanks, >-linda > >-- >Linda A Walsh| Trust Technology, Core Linux, SGI >[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (650) 933-5338 > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Modem issues
> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:44:40 -0600
> From: Jeff Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> What do you mean by this? The system normally just sees the serial port, and
> doesn't know what if anything is attached to it.
I was speaking metaphorically. I'm using Kppp. I can query the modem
for ATI information, and it responds, so it's there, but if I send the
init string ("ATZ"), it just hangs, and I get no "OK" (as far as I can tell,
3Com/USR accepts standard modem commands).
I'm wondering whether the problem could be with my configuration or with
my modem.
TIA,
--Kat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
RE: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Hey Sally, That is the default behavior if you put LILO on a hd partition instead of the MBR. Kinda equivalent to saying: LILO: linux root=/dev/hda3 HTH, Harry Hoffman Product Systems Specialist Restaurants Unlimited Inc. 206.634.3082 x. 270 On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > AHA! My DVD is bootable! And I have a CD-RW > > Will let you know if this works tonight... thanks Jeff! > > *wondering why I didn't think of that before... duh* > > Strange though, I never get an option of what OS to load. If the floppy is > in the drive, it boots up Redhat like it's the only OS on my hd. If the > floppy isn't there, it boots up Windoze just like IT's the only OS Is > that common? > > -Sally > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Modem issues
Hey Kat,
Missed out on the initial thread, sorry. Can you post the serial listings
from dmesg and also what prog's you're using to access the modem.
Regards,
Harry Hoffman
Product Systems Specialist
Restaurants Unlimited Inc.
206.634.3082 x. 270
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:44:40 -0600
> > From: Jeff Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > What do you mean by this? The system normally just sees the serial port, and
> > doesn't know what if anything is attached to it.
>
>I was speaking metaphorically. I'm using Kppp. I can query the modem
> for ATI information, and it responds, so it's there, but if I send the
> init string ("ATZ"), it just hangs, and I get no "OK" (as far as I can tell,
> 3Com/USR accepts standard modem commands).
>I'm wondering whether the problem could be with my configuration or with
> my modem.
>
>TIA,
>
>--Kat
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Are any of these Linux/NT installs with the Linux on an external SCSI Jazz drive? If so I would like to know how you did it. All the info I found on the web was for internal drives. It would be great if I could get rid of these floppy boots. Shirrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 1 13:38:11 2000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > X-Lines: 56 > > I have to heartily concur with Harry here. NT and Linux will play VERY > nice together. Ive had more luck with NT-first-then-Linux installs, while > a friend of mine swears by Linux-first-then-Nt installs. > > syscom is an incredible tool, if you can put your hands on it. I have an > old version somewhere, but I can't find it, else i'd post it on my 'site. > > the multiboot howto is pretty extensive. > > --mandi > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello All, > > That is simply not the case. Here at work I have a dual boot > > NT/Linux(RH6.1) machine. There are great howto's around on getting it to > > work and it's not that difficult. > > Regards, > > > > Harry Hoffman > > Product Systems Specialist > > Restaurants Unlimited Inc. > > 206.634.3082 x. 270 > > > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Snarfblat wrote: > > > > > > > > I appologize if this has been mentioned, but lilo will not work with > > > NT. They both seem to want the MBR in an exclusive manner, so you must > > > pick one or the other, or find another os manager like System Commander > > > (which will play nice with NT). > > > > > > If you are having problems with dual boot using lilo and NT there is no > > > other workaround except booting from a non HD drive, or using a > > > different boot loader. > > > > > > -- > > > .oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cubicmetercrystal.com/ > > > "You are the product of a mutational union > > >of ~640Mbytes of genetic information." > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Andrew Plumb wrote: > > As Harry mentioned, there's a howto which works quite nicely, particularly > if your boot partition is NTFS. I suspect the problems relate to using > NTFS as your boot partition instead of FAT. > My appologies for spreading misinformation... -- .oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cubicmetercrystal.com/ "You are the product of a mutational union of ~640Mbytes of genetic information." [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
No, unfortunately, never had the cash for a SCSI drive/connectors, and when i did i just bought another whole machine instead, so when i get sick of windows, i can format and have two linux boxes... .. hhhmm... On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Shirrell wrote: > Are any of these Linux/NT installs with the Linux on an external > SCSI Jazz drive? If so I would like to know how you did it. All > the info I found on the web was for internal drives. > > It would be great if I could get rid of these floppy boots. > > Shirrell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 1 13:38:11 2000 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > X-Lines: 56 > > > > I have to heartily concur with Harry here. NT and Linux will play VERY > > nice together. Ive had more luck with NT-first-then-Linux installs, while > > a friend of mine swears by Linux-first-then-Nt installs. > > > > syscom is an incredible tool, if you can put your hands on it. I have an > > old version somewhere, but I can't find it, else i'd post it on my 'site. > > > > the multiboot howto is pretty extensive. > > > > --mandi > > > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Hello All, > > > That is simply not the case. Here at work I have a dual boot > > > NT/Linux(RH6.1) machine. There are great howto's around on getting it to > > > work and it's not that difficult. > > > Regards, > > > > > > Harry Hoffman > > > Product Systems Specialist > > > Restaurants Unlimited Inc. > > > 206.634.3082 x. 270 > > > > > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Snarfblat wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I appologize if this has been mentioned, but lilo will not work with > > > > NT. They both seem to want the MBR in an exclusive manner, so you must > > > > pick one or the other, or find another os manager like System Commander > > > > (which will play nice with NT). > > > > > > > > If you are having problems with dual boot using lilo and NT there is no > > > > other workaround except booting from a non HD drive, or using a > > > > different boot loader. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > .oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo.oO()Oo. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cubicmetercrystal.com/ > > > > "You are the product of a mutational union > > > >of ~640Mbytes of genetic information." > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > AHA! My DVD is bootable! And I have a CD-RW > Will let you know if this works tonight... thanks Jeff! Cool. Since it's a bit larger than a floppy, you can put a whole root filesystem on it if you want. I'm not sure that's a great idea, though. /dev likes to be writeable. Burning a whole CD just for the MBR seems like a waste. > Strange though, I never get an option of what OS to load. If the > floppy is in the drive, it boots up Redhat like it's the only OS on my > hd. Whatever set up lilo on the floppy wasn't told about the windows partition. > If the floppy isn't there, it boots up Windoze just like IT's the > only OS It is. Sounds like you didn't taken your MS pill this morning. Naughty, naughty... Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
This will tell you a little about Fdisk /MBR ( "the command rewrites the master boot record (MBR) only, and not the entire boot record. The FDISK /MBR command rewrites only the first 446 bytes of the master boot record, not the partition table." ) It might not help in this case. http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q166/4/54.ASP And this is from the following article "Some dual-boot programs have a special MBR that asks you at startup which operating system you want to use. FDISK /MBR erases this program. Dual-boot systems that boot whichever partition is marked Active are not affected by FDISK /MBR. " I'm guessing that LILO and Boot Magic are 2 of these "programs" (since both prompt and both reside (by default) in the MBR http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q69/0/13.ASP This one has info about NT and LILO: http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q171/6/11.ASP And no, I'm not an M$ supporter,... just went looking for info on a M$ Command :) For Snafblat: I am running a desktop at home right now, I use Boot Magic for the boot manager, and I have NT4, Win 98 and Linux (Mandrake 7) on a "dual boot" (I guess you can't really call it dual anymore can you?) The order that I installed in was: NT (in the first 2GIG of my drive), Win98 on the last 2 gig, and Linux actually resides on another drive. I do run NT on FaT 16 though (it's a work mandate, not because I choose to. And I'm not sure how good the Partition Magic Fat to NTFS conversion is. ) Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
RE: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
Hi! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I am having a problem with a dualboot myself, but on a single hard > drive. I believe the problem may be that the Linux partition is too > close to the end of the disk. Install lilo. What does it say? (The space on the disk where the kernel is must me accessable for the bios... Don't you have a /boot partition?) - If there is no way for the bios, move some partitions around... (GNU parted) > In any case, I can't boot Linux without the boot disk, and when I > do, "starting linux" it takes about 10 minutes for all the dots to > go across the screen. Any hints on how to speed up my boot? The hole kernel is loaded from the disk and your floppydrive is slow. Boot from harddisk or via network. The latter could be also done with a 'bootdisk', which only contains drivers to fetch the kernel via network. This is fast! ... and hard to install (look for etherboot or netboot). Ciao, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Snarfblat wrote: > My appologies for spreading misinformation... No need; it's tricky stuff and deserves to plastered with "proceed with caution" stickers. After all, we're dealing with a trojan OS called Windows. :-) Andrew. -- Andrew Plumb, VE3SLG mailto://andrew(at)plumb(dot)org http://www.plumb.org/tekmage/ spk2_0.0.2: http://www.plumb.org/tekmage/source/spk2/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
[techtalk] Thanks to all (Was: Missing "Taskbar" in KDE)
Everything seems fixed now, and I'm up and running. Now I just have to get my soundcard, NIC and modem working, and I'm off and running :) Message for Rik: Thank you as well! I reinstalled Mandrake on one of my machines, just to fix a whole mess of problems,... and noticed that I was asked to make a boot disk, but no root disk. I think therein lies my problem. I have to make one of those, or else I can't do any repairs. (all I get is "Kernel Panic") I will be taking that on this week, between sanding and painting in the house :) Thanks Again everyone Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] xseti
Stephan Zaniolo wrote: > > There are actually several 'xseti's (by different names of course > ;^) Some of the seti distributions contain an "xsetiathome" program (e.g. > setiathome-2.0.i386-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1.tar has it, but > setiathome-2.0.i686-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1.tar doesn't). --- Ahh...figures. I downloaded the 686 version. Thanks for all the pointers... -linda -- Linda A Walsh| Trust Technology, Core Linux, SGI [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Voice: (650) 933-5338 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] viewer for doc/excel
this sounds more like what i'm looking for!! i haven't had a chance to check it out yet..but i very much appreciate the URL point. kristin > abs is a smaller util than staroffice ( SO is a memory hog ) it can open > excel docs and has a macro language thats compatible with vba. i dont > use it tho it seems to be the lightest out there ( KSpread being still > in dev and Gnumeric having given me odd little things occationally) i > dont use it because i have no need for a spread sheet - if i'm not > mistaken i think you can tell netscape to associate the mime type for > excel docs to abs > > url for abs -- http://www.ping.be/bertin/abs.shtml or your local > freshmeat or linuxberg mirror > > i havnt checked freshmeat to see what its got on linuxberg > > there is an msword to html converter as well called mswordview its cli > based so it might be possible to open the mime type with a perl script > or some such and then open the .html file created > > (ps i havnt done any of this so if someone knows more about NS and mime > types feel free to correct me - i'm just playing with ideas here ) > > Sean > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] Problem with LILO & booting
On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 03:01:12PM -0600, Jeff Dike wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > AHA! My DVD is bootable! And I have a CD-RW > > Will let you know if this works tonight... thanks Jeff! > > Cool. Since it's a bit larger than a floppy, you can put a whole root > filesystem on it if you want. I'm not sure that's a great idea, though. /dev > likes to be writeable. Burning a whole CD just for the MBR seems like a waste. My SuSE 5.3 CD #5 is a boot CD with a full installation. However, to deal with the ro stuff, the disk has a compressed filesystem *image* on it that is loaded onto a RAM disk. This acts as the root partition (thus, /dev is readable), and the CD can be mounted and used for programs. Just FYI, if you really want to figure out how to do the bootable CDs. BTW, tell me how you did it ;) (I don't have a burner myself, but I'm always curious, besides, I might have to be making my own boot disks at school soon ;) -- Jeff -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/M/>P d-(pu) s+:- a17>? C++() L+++ UL@>$ P+ E--- W++@ N+ o? K++ w--- O? M V- PS+ PE(--)@ Y+@ PGP++ t+ 5 X++@ R++@ !tv@ b++ DI D- G e- h! r% y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- My Public Key -- http://24.5.73.229/pubkey.txt PGP signature
Re: [techtalk] IPCHAINS
Hi all Is there any detailed step by step document on IPCHAINS? I want to implement ipmasq and do some kind of packet filtering. Also is there any tool for Linux something like websense? Cheers Sriram [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Re: [techtalk] IPCHAINS
Hey Sriram, Plenty of HowTo's on ipchains., Packet filtering can be done thru them. I would suggest checking out mason if you're new to the ideas of firewalling. Mason automates the ipchains creation by listening to the traffic going thru you network. That is how I learned. Took my network down for 3 days, did traffic one port at a time and watched to see what rules were written. It was a great learning experience, albeit boring. HTH, Harry Hoffman Product Systems Specialist Restaurants Unlimited Inc. 206.634.3082 x. 270 On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Sriram-HO wrote: > Hi all > > Is there any detailed step by step document on IPCHAINS? > > I want to implement ipmasq and do some kind of packet filtering. > > Also is there any tool for Linux something like websense? > > Cheers > Sriram > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
