[techtalk] Direct boot

[Judith Bush]

For a kiosk i have built, i have this script in /etc/init.d/ so the
machine goes straight to the user interface upon boot. It's nothing
fancy and certainly could be cleaned up. The essentail line is:

su - kiosk -c startx &

in which root su's to the user and executes the command to start the X 
interface.

Note how to use inet.d in whatever distribution you have, so the script 
runs at boot. In Debian see /etc/init.d/README &
http://localhost/doc/debian-policy/.


Cheers,

judith


#! /usr/bin/tcsh
#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8
#
#  Science Pulse configuration file. This file is copyright 1999 The Franklin
#  Institute Science Museum.  
#  By Judith E. Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
#  $Header$
#  $Log$
#
#  BUGS: 
#
#1#2#3#4#5#6#7#8

# skeleton  example file to build /etc/init.d/ scripts.
#   This file should be used to construct scripts for /etc/init.d.
#
#   Written by Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
#   Modified for Debian GNU/Linux
#   by Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
#
# Version:  @(#)skeleton  1.8  03-Mar-1998  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#

set PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
##DAEMON=/usr/sbin/daemon
set NAME=kiosk
set DESC="kiosk auto boot"

## test -f $DAEMON || exit 0

##set -e

switch ( $1 )
  case "start":
echo -n "Starting ${DESC}: "

su - kiosk -c startx &; echo $! >! /var/run/$NAME.pid
#start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/$NAME.pid \
#   --exec $DAEMON
echo "$NAME."
breaksw
  case "stop":
echo -n "Stopping $DESC: "
#start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/$NAME.pid \
#   --exec $DAEMON
kill -12 `cat /var/run/$NAME.pid`
echo "$NAME."
breaksw
  #case "reload":
#
#   If the daemon can reload its config files on the fly
#   for example by sending it SIGHUP, do it here.
#
#   If the daemon responds to changes in its config file
#   directly anyway, make this a do-nothing entry.
#
# echo "Reloading $DESC configuration files."
# start-stop-daemon --stop --signal 1 --quiet --pidfile \
#   /var/run/$NAME.pid --exec $DAEMON
#breaksw
  case "restart":
#
#   If the "reload" option is implemented, move the "force-reload"
#   option to the "reload" entry above. If not, "force-reload" is
#   just the same as "restart".
#
echo -n "Restarting $DESC: "
kill -12 `cat /var/run/$NAME.pid` 
su - kiosk -c startx &; echo $! >! /var/run/$NAME.pid
#   start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile \
#   /var/run/$NAME.pid --exec $DAEMON
#   sleep 1
#   start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile \
#   /var/run/$NAME.pid --exec $DAEMON
echo "$NAME."
breaksw
  default:
set N=/etc/init.d/$NAME
# echo "Usage: $N {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}" >&2
echo "Usage: $N {start|stop}" >&2
exit (1)
breaksw
endsw 

exit 


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[techtalk] Kinda off topic, but...

[Nicole]

Does anyone know of any good morphing software?  I am supposed to be doing
some animations at work, i.e. getting a few pictures in a sequence and
then having a software program fill in the rest.

Nicole




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Re: [techtalk] Kinda off topic, but...

[Sunnanvind]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Nicole wrote:
> Does anyone know of any good morphing software?  I am supposed to be doing
> some animations at work, i.e. getting a few pictures in a sequence and
> then having a software program fill in the rest.

I got my RH linux on a CD that came with a magazine, and among the packages on
that CD was xmorph, it used some weird file formats so I never bothered. Try it
out or search freshmeat.
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[techtalk] web+ (free version)

[Kelly Kirby]

I really need help with setting up web+ on
my computer. I have apache running, and 
web + is loaded..but, I have no clue about
the webplus.exe in the cgi-bin. It keeps telling
me that it isn't running.

Explanation: I want to learn about developing
e-commerce type sites and this looked like
it would do it. Webplus has a free version for Linux
and I downloaded it.

Don't worry about technical details.. I'll have my 
daughter-- April translate.

thanks

Kelly


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[techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Laurel Fan]

I'm looking for a program that I saw 2 years ago or so.  It's basically
a utility that can act as a tcp or udp client or server, which is useful
when writing and debugging such programs.  Better than using telnet,
since telnet can't do udp or debug a client.

I saw it running on Solaris, and my guess is that it's free software,
but I'm not sure.  I looked for it on freshmeat and didn't find
anything, but I don't know what to search for except for 'socket' or
'network', and I might have missed something while hitting space 50
times to page through the results.

Speaking of freshmeat, while doing this I've been thinking how it would
be nice if the appindex categories were actually keywords.  Because
sometimes I don't care if something's X11 or Console, I just need
something to do X (but I don't want anything KDE or Web, for example). 
Another thing is programs that fall into multiple categories, such as a
program that has both X and command line modes, or a mail and news
reader.  It shouldn't be terribly hard to do this, since it's all PHP'd
and SQL'd already.  Of course, they'll have to write new code for the
search and stuff.  Too bad freshmeat isn't GPL.  Actually, what I'm
thinking about is sort of like the multiple browse and search views at
happypenguin.org.. hm...



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Re: [techtalk] web+ (free version)

[Laurel Fan]

Excerpts from linuxchix: 30-Jan-100 [techtalk] web+ (free version)Kelly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (712*) by 
> web + is loaded..but, I have no clue about
> the webplus.exe in the cgi-bin. It keeps telling
> me that it isn't running.

Are you sure webplus.exe isn't a windows binary?  What happens if you
run file on it?  


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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Phil V Savoie]

Hi Laurel,

Have you tried rpmfind.net?  Just my $0.02

Phil

At 14:09 30/01/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>I'm looking for a program that I saw 2 years ago or so.  It's basically
>a utility that can act as a tcp or udp client or server, which is useful
>when writing and debugging such programs.  Better than using telnet,
>since telnet can't do udp or debug a client.
>
>I saw it running on Solaris, and my guess is that it's free software,
>but I'm not sure.  I looked for it on freshmeat and didn't find
>anything, but I don't know what to search for except for 'socket' or
>'network', and I might have missed something while hitting space 50
>times to page through the results.
>
>Speaking of freshmeat, while doing this I've been thinking how it would
>be nice if the appindex categories were actually keywords.  Because
>sometimes I don't care if something's X11 or Console, I just need
>something to do X (but I don't want anything KDE or Web, for example). 
>Another thing is programs that fall into multiple categories, such as a
>program that has both X and command line modes, or a mail and news
>reader.  It shouldn't be terribly hard to do this, since it's all PHP'd
>and SQL'd already.  Of course, they'll have to write new code for the
>search and stuff.  Too bad freshmeat isn't GPL.  Actually, what I'm
>thinking about is sort of like the multiple browse and search views at
>happypenguin.org.. hm...
>
>
>
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>



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[techtalk] [Fwd: afresh]

[Deb Richardson]

Kathy Hargreaves wrote:
> 
> I have some questions about starting out on a new (empty) disk.
> 
> If I start with installing Windoze, do I repartition to get partitions for
> 
>   windoze
>   linux
>   swap
>   user space
> 
> ?
> 
> If this is right, is it clear (from docs?) how big each partition should be?
> 
> If I later want to try out VMWare, should I do something at this point
> so it will fit somewhere reasonable?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kathy

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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Wendt,Andrew]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, you wrote:
>I'm looking for a program that I saw 2 years ago or so.  It's basically
>a utility that can act as a tcp or udp client or server, which is useful
>when writing and debugging such programs.  Better than using telnet,
>since telnet can't do udp or debug a client.

Netcat is similar to telnet, but can listen instead of initiating the connection
and can do UDP...

TTFN
Andy


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[techtalk] Newbie users' guide?

[Bonedaddy]

Can someone recommend a good online guide for a new Linux/Unix user?  A
couple of friends who have accounts on my system haven't had much (or any,
in some cases) experience with unix, and I'd like to be able to point them
to an easy-to-understand web page that can help get them up to speed with
the basics.  Thanks very much for any recommendations.

Jason


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Re: [techtalk] MP3's and my laptop

[Terri Oda]

>THere's a good point... seeif you can find a sceleorn optimized decoded

Good thought only... if winamp runs on a friend's celeron, why won't it run
on my laptop's celeron?  Is there anything potentially different?

I've tried all the usual buffer tricks in both operating systems, but
windows media player is *still* the only thing which plays without
skipping. :P





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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Laurel Fan]

Excerpts from linuxchix: 30-Jan-100 Re: [techtalk] have you see.. by
Phil V [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Have you tried rpmfind.net?

Well, not having an rpm based system, I don't really want to find rpms. 
Is this site useful otherwise?



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Re: [techtalk] Newbie users' guide?

[Phil V Savoie]

Hi Jason,

I found this while cruisin'.  Has some good newbie stuff as well.

http://www.linuxstart.com

Regards,

Phil


At 15:45 30/01/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Can someone recommend a good online guide for a new Linux/Unix user?  A
>couple of friends who have accounts on my system haven't had much (or any,
>in some cases) experience with unix, and I'd like to be able to point them
>to an easy-to-understand web page that can help get them up to speed with
>the basics.  Thanks very much for any recommendations.
>
>Jason
>
>
>Jason Puckett  / [EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.intemperance.net
>
>
>
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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Phil V Savoie]

Hmm...  Once you locate the rpm there is sources for the rpm as well.
Perhaps you could compile?

Phil


At 15:55 30/01/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Excerpts from linuxchix: 30-Jan-100 Re: [techtalk] have you see.. by
>Phil V [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Have you tried rpmfind.net?
>
>Well, not having an rpm based system, I don't really want to find rpms. 
>Is this site useful otherwise?
>
>
>
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Re: [techtalk] web+ (free version)

[aprilk]

Laurel Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Excerpts from linuxchix: 30-Jan-100 [techtalk] web+ (free version)Kelly
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (712*) by 
>> web + is loaded..but, I have no clue about
>> the webplus.exe in the cgi-bin. It keeps telling
>> me that it isn't running.
>
>Are you sure webplus.exe isn't a windows binary?  What happens if you
>run file on it?  
>
>
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>

It is a valid linux ELF binary. I figured out why it wasn't running but now I don't 
know why the WebPlus server won't stay running. I can start it and then check for it 
with 'ps ax' and top and neither even show it. I try to stop it and it complains it 
isn't running. Ideas?

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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Kelly Lynn Martin]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:55:53 -0500 (EST), Laurel Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Well, not having an rpm based system, I don't really want to find
>rpms.  Is this site useful otherwise?

You can always use alien to derpmize the rpm.  Search for alien on
freshmeat.

Kelly


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Re: [techtalk] Newbie users' guide?

[J B]

The best Newbie guide I have found is the Linux Newbie Administrators Guide 
(NAG)  it is at http://sunsite.auc.dk/linux-newbie/


Can someone recommend a good online guide for a new Linux/Unix user?  A 
couple of friends who have accounts on my system haven't had much (or any, 
in some cases) experience with unix, and I'd like to be able to point them 
to an easy-to-understand web page that can help get them up to speed with 
the basics.  Thanks very much for any recommendations.

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Re: [techtalk] web+ (free version)

[Nils Philippsen]

On 30 Jan 2000, Kelly Kirby wrote:

> I really need help with setting up web+ on
> my computer. I have apache running, and 
> web + is loaded..but, I have no clue about
> the webplus.exe in the cgi-bin. It keeps telling
> me that it isn't running.
> 
> Explanation: I want to learn about developing
> e-commerce type sites and this looked like
> it would do it. Webplus has a free version for Linux
> and I downloaded it.

I'd suggest using PHP (http://www.php.net). It's really easy to start with
and works like a charm here. And least, but not least, it is free (as in
speech).

It works by inserting commands directly into the HTML code, á la:

[...]
This is some html code.
And this:  is something generated dynamically with
PHP.
[...]

Of course, for e-commerce you would do some database queries (and the
like) in the ""-part(s).

Nils
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Re: [techtalk] web+ (free version)

[aprilk]

Nils Philippsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 30 Jan 2000, Kelly Kirby wrote:
>
>> I really need help with setting up web+ on
>> my computer. I have apache running, and 
>> web + is loaded..but, I have no clue about
>> the webplus.exe in the cgi-bin. It keeps telling
>> me that it isn't running.
>> 
>> Explanation: I want to learn about developing
>> e-commerce type sites and this looked like
>> it would do it. Webplus has a free version for Linux
>> and I downloaded it.
>
>I'd suggest using PHP (http://www.php.net). It's really easy to start with
>and works like a charm here. And least, but not least, it is free (as in
>speech).
>
>It works by inserting commands directly into the HTML code, á la:
>
>[...]
>This is some html code.
>And this:  is something generated dynamically with
>PHP.
>[...]
>
>Of course, for e-commerce you would do some database queries (and the
>like) in the ""-part(s).
>
>Nils
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>   regarded as a criminal offence.  -- Edsger W. Dijkstra
>
>
>
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>
Mom has PHP on her computer, is not a programmer and doesn't even pretend to 
try(unless html, that is). I haven't even learned it yet. I'm trying to help her get 
this program she wants, running properly. At some time future I will try to learn 
those fun languages but right now to many things are going for me to start.

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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Andre Pang]

On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 02:09:22PM -0500, Laurel Fan wrote:

> I'm looking for a program that I saw 2 years ago or so.  It's basically
> a utility that can act as a tcp or udp client or server, which is useful
> when writing and debugging such programs.  Better than using telnet,
> since telnet can't do udp or debug a client.

you're probably looking for netcat (quite often called 'nc'), which you
can find on freshmeat.  just in case you don't like that, you can also look
for 'netpipe' or 'netpipes'.

and just in case none of those suit your fancy, i liked a little program
called 'sock' which can be found at
ftp://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/pub/local/mj/linux.  i'm not quite sure why i
preferred it over nc, but i did :).


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Re: [techtalk] web+ (free version)

[Nils Philippsen]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, aprilk wrote:

> Mom has PHP on her computer, is not a programmer and doesn't even
> pretend to try(unless html, that is). I haven't even learned it yet.

It's simple. It looks like a mixture of C and perl with OO-mechanisms (if
you wish, you can ignore it and go the procedural way). There are a lot of
"already made" stuff (call it "libraries") that can take a great part of
programming from your shoulders.

> I'm trying to help her get this program she wants, running properly.

I'm interested in how this web+ thing should do e-commerce "out of the
box" -- I had the impression that you had to do some database stuff to get
e-commerce stuff going (and that to get this correct was the hard part
rather than coding it in C/perl/PHP/whatever). Could you give details (to
web+) and what makes it so easy?

> At some time future I will try to learn those fun languages but right
> now to many things are going for me to start.

I've been experimenting with PHP for just a week now. I've done db access
in C and perl before (and much of it) and this is as easy (perl) or much
easier (C) than those. You need to grok SQL, admitted.

Nils
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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Nicole Zimmerman]

> Well, not having an rpm based system, I don't really want to find rpms.
> Is this site useful otherwise?

I have used quite a few rpms converted to debs with alien, it works
quite nicely... they get entered into the dpkg database as normal debs
would and I have had few problems with the handful I've installed. 

As long as they are not rpms built exclusively for the way redhat
organizes their software (which is sometimes quite different than the
way debian does), I don't see the problem in using 'alien
whatever-package.rpm'. 

-Nicole


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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Nicole Zimmerman]

> You can always use alien to derpmize the rpm.  Search for alien on
> freshmeat.

Or even apt-get install alien. 

-Nicole


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Re: [techtalk] web+ (free version)

[aprilk]

Nils Philippsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, aprilk wrote:
>
>> Mom has PHP on her computer, is not a programmer and doesn't even
>> pretend to try(unless html, that is). I haven't even learned it yet.
>
>It's simple. It looks like a mixture of C and perl with OO-mechanisms (if
>you wish, you can ignore it and go the procedural way). There are a lot of
>"already made" stuff (call it "libraries") that can take a great part of
>programming from your shoulders.
>
to someone who has only done a tiny bit of html and tries at perl and python, I have 
no clue what they are.

>> I'm trying to help her get this program she wants, running properly.
>
>I'm interested in how this web+ thing should do e-commerce "out of the
>box" -- I had the impression that you had to do some database stuff to get
>e-commerce stuff going (and that to get this correct was the hard part
>rather than coding it in C/perl/PHP/whatever). Could you give details (to
>web+) and what makes it so easy?
>
quite actually I had to go look at the website to remember what it does.
Yes there has to be a database backend too. She isn't a coder and I don't have time 
currently to figure that out.

>> At some time future I will try to learn those fun languages but right
>> now to many things are going for me to start.
>
>I've been experimenting with PHP for just a week now. I've done db access
>in C and perl before (and much of it) and this is as easy (perl) or much
>easier (C) than those. You need to grok SQL, admitted.
>
I can understand simple SQL, granted I learned it in a SQLserver class (yes MS) so 
that is as far as that goes.
>Nils
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>

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Re: [techtalk] MP3's and my laptop

[Sunnanvind]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, Terri Oda wrote:
> >THere's a good point... seeif you can find a sceleorn optimized decoded
> 
> Good thought only... if winamp runs on a friend's celeron, why won't it run
> on my laptop's celeron?  Is there anything potentially different?
> 
> I've tried all the usual buffer tricks in both operating systems, but
> windows media player is *still* the only thing which plays without
> skipping. :P

Have you tried other mp3-players for windows?
Like winamp or sonique?
I mean, if they work, then the problem's with linux.
If they don't work, then the problems.. er.. not with linux.
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Re: [techtalk] have you seen this program?

[Laurel Fan]

Thanks everyone, netcat is exactly what I was looking for.  Apparently
things of this sort are a 'network piping program', which I suppose
makes sense, now that I think about it...



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Re: [techtalk] MP3's and my laptop

[Laurel Fan]

Excerpts from linuxchix: 30-Jan-100 Re: [techtalk] MP3's and my.. by
Terri [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Good thought only... if winamp runs on a friend's celeron, why won't it run
> on my laptop's celeron?  Is there anything potentially different?

Your laptop could be on crack...  A friend of mine found that an old
Pentium-based Dell laptop had a '386 Mode', which if turned on, made it
run very, very, slow.  Somewhat like a 386, in fact.  I'd look to see if
any similar power saving features are enabled...

I tried to find info about mobile celerons on Intel's web site, but the
Javascript confused lynx.  I did find stuff about the Mobile PIII, which
contains "Intel(c) SpeedStep(TM) Technology", which I'm guessing is
marketing-speak for "it can slow down to save power"... 


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Re: [techtalk] MP3's and my laptop

[Terri Oda]

>Have you tried other mp3-players for windows?
>Like winamp or sonique?
>I mean, if they work, then the problem's with linux.
>If they don't work, then the problems.. er.. not with linux.
>Sunnan

*nod* I've used winamp and some other player that I've since forgotten the
name of under windows.  I may try sonique, but I'm not holding out much
hope now... The problem seems to just be with everything except windows
media player.  It's weird.  





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