Re: [techtalk] Screen colours :-)

2000-01-14 Thread Jenn V.



"Wendt,Andrew" wrote:
> 
> Eek. I cannot understand why people have black letters on a light background
> for viewing text...

> What do you people prefer as colours for extended viewing of text? :-)

Black on white, always. White on black is literally painful!
For me.


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Re: [techtalk] Screen colours :-)

2000-01-14 Thread Telsa Gwynne

On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 08:26:06PM +1100 or thereabouts, Jenn V. wrote:
 
> > What do you people prefer as colours for extended viewing of text? :-)
> 
> Black on white, always. White on black is literally painful!
> For me.

I remember when I started using X finding that the combinations of
colours that I thought I would like actually gave me a headache.
Some messing with my .fvwm2rc later, I found some pale green, lilacs
and neutral browns which I liked for backgrounds and stuck to 
black text. 

Changing windowmanagers and using Gnome, I had transparent terminals
which showed a very dark background, with a light grey (it looked
white but wasn't so glary) for the letters.

Now I have the default theme for windowmaker, I think, showing 
through: a purplish colour with white (which I suspect to be pale 
grey, again) text. And a panel of greens and greys. They're not
bright. I find them restful!

I was interested to hear from a friend that greens and lilac/purple
are said to be good for people with long sight; and that ambers and
(I think) reds are sometimes better for short-sighted people (which
includes me). He thinks this is pretty standard, but I appear to be
an exception.

If I'm looking at something in postscript, however, I prefer black
on white, which ghostview does. Dunno why. And generally, for
-extended- viewing of something, I prefer it on paper :)

I think that url that someone mentioned earlier was right, too. 
It's not just the colours, or the fonts. It's the combination.
I love the dec terminal font on the screen, but I'm not so keen
on it when printed out. And I can cope with the black-on-white
of postscript stuff better than I would cope with black-on-white
on a window.

Telsa


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Re: [techtalk] Screen colours :-)

2000-01-14 Thread Marie Fischer

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Wendt,Andrew wrote:

> [...]
> >6. Get a color scheme that works for you, and stick with it. I like
> >black text on a light yellowy background for major reading of computer
> >text, purply or blue-green title bars, matching widgets, light yellowish
> >text in the titlebars, menubars in a grey or purply shade with text in a
> [...]
> 
> Eek. I cannot understand why people have black letters on a light background
> for viewing text...
[--snip--]
> What do you people prefer as colours for extended viewing of text? :-)

Definitely white/light grey text on black background. My first
installation (redhat 4.2, i think) came with a .Xdefaults which did just
that and I keep copying it everywhere :)

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Re: [techtalk] Screen colours :-)

2000-01-14 Thread Sunnanvind

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Wendt,Andrew wrote:
> What do you people prefer as colours for extended viewing of text? :-)

On my old monitor I preferred white text/black background - on this one I find
that anything except white background is okay - even light yellow.
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Re: [techtalk] Monitor Size

2000-01-14 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Sunnanvind wrote:

> CRT screens are *never* 21" of usable screen.

Objections :-). I once read a test of a CAD workstation (PC hardware)
which had a monitor with an 28" tube which might give some 26" or 27"
usable screen. That thing almost looked like one of those TVs of the 70s,
you know that round edge stuff. Weird. And expensive. The thing cost
something like 30.000DM (~15,000US$) at the time (computer + monitor).

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Re: [techtalk] Pine and Reply-to

2000-01-14 Thread V Clarke

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Jenn V. wrote:

> So I suspect it's a function of the end-user's mail. Do this experiment
> with the various lists you're on - see what you get when you hit
> reply/replyall. 

I'd love to, but this version of Pine doesn't _have_ replyall. It prompts
you when you hit reply; if you choose the replyall option, it replies to
the sender with a CC to the mailing list; if not you only get the sender.
It also prompts for reply-to headers, although you can set it to default
to using them.

Somewhere in the config file there's an option to 'use sender not
x-sender', which may affect that in some way, but I'm not sure how; there 
is also an 'always use reply-to' option. I can arrange filters on sender
because the Pine in question is running on the uni mailservers, which are
all nicely configured with a menu system to organise filters, blocking,
vacation messages and so on. Whilst i'd be interested to know what that
fist config option does, the rest of it looks very much like it's up to
me...

> Certainly the list admin can't do anything about it once the end user has
> hit their preferred 'reply' button. And given that some people WANT to get
> the duplicate mail, and some don't, it's impossible for them to please
> everyone. :/

*sigh* No progress there then... 

Vicky

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Re: [techtalk] Screen colours :-)

2000-01-14 Thread Britta Koch

>> What do you people prefer as colours for extended viewing of text? :-)

If I'm reading a README while installing, it'll probably be less in an Eterm with 
randomised 
picture bgs - sometimes hard to read, but I love the pics!!!
Else, it might be black on white in emacs or netscape (for html) - preferred on paper, 
if I can print it at work!
(I'm too cheap to print much at home ;)

Britta

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Re: [techtalk] Which PGP?

2000-01-14 Thread Michael Carson

Telsa Gwynne wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:13:34PM -0500 or thereabouts, Subba Rao wrote:
> > On  0, Nils Philippsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I wouldn't use the "original" PGP as it has a pretty dumb license and this
> > > backdoor crap. I use the GNU Privacy Guard (www.gnupg.org) and am content
> > > with it so far.
> >
> > Thanks for replying. Is GNU PG easy to use?
>
> I personally (and your mileage may vary on this) find it easier than
> PGP.

Can you interoperate with PGP?  If so, which versions?

Also, does anyone know the technical details of exactly what the PGP
5.X backdoor is?

C.




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Re: [techtalk] Monitor Size

2000-01-14 Thread J B

trueand the resolutions on those screens are comparable to the 
resolution on a TVpretty sucky, not adaquate for AutoCAD at all.

-

Objections :-). I once read a test of a CAD workstation (PC hardware)
which had a monitor with an 28" tube which might give some 26" or 27"
usable screen. That thing almost looked like one of those TVs of the 70s,
you know that round edge stuff. Weird. And expensive. The thing cost
something like 30.000DM (~15,000US$) at the time (computer + monitor).


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Re: [techtalk] Screen colours :-)

2000-01-14 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun

On Jan 14, Wendt,Andrew conjectured:

> What do you people prefer as colours for extended viewing of text? :-)

I personally like white letters on black background.  And word processing
apps are always black letters on white bg.  This is why I prefer to use
paper copy for extended reading.  I can't read long web stuff either, if
it's dark words on light background.  If it's light words on dark bg, I'm
fine.

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Re: [techtalk] Pine and Reply-to

2000-01-14 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun

On Jan 14, V Clarke conjectured:

> I'd love to, but this version of Pine doesn't _have_ replyall. It prompts
> you when you hit reply; if you choose the replyall option, it replies to
> the sender with a CC to the mailing list; if not you only get the sender.
> It also prompts for reply-to headers, although you can set it to default
> to using them.
> 

You can always hand-edit your headers.  I do this for another mailng list
I'm on that sends a cc to the list.  I ctrl-k the to, then ctrl-k the
cc:, then ctrl-u up in the to: field.  works fine.

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Re: [techtalk] Monitor Size

2000-01-14 Thread Nils Philippsen

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, J B wrote:

> trueand the resolutions on those screens are comparable to the 
> resolution on a TVpretty sucky, not adaquate for AutoCAD at all.

I'm pretty sure that the thing I described was capable of doing CAD,
otherwise why would it be a CAD workstation? I think that at least half of
the price was for the monitor, so it must have been something good.

Nils
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Re: [techtalk] Pine and Reply-to

2000-01-14 Thread Nicole Zimmerman

You can also use roles (depending on version of pine... if it is below
4.0 probably not). Roles will recognise a line in a header and form a
pre determined (by you) header 
to base the response on.

I guess I don't see the point in manually editing it too many times...
kind of like code. If you catch yourself writing similar code more than
twice, put it in a function. If you catch yourself changing the same
header more than twice, put it in a role (or edit your .pinerc to change
your from: or...).

Of course if you are stuck with version 3.96 this would be a different
story. Version 4.10 is very stable and I personally would recommend an
upgrade ;o)

-Nicole


Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun wrote:
> 
> > I'd love to, but this version of Pine doesn't _have_ replyall. It prompts
> > you when you hit reply; if you choose the replyall option, it replies to
> > the sender with a CC to the mailing list; if not you only get the sender.
> > It also prompts for reply-to headers, although you can set it to default
> > to using them.
> >
> 
> You can always hand-edit your headers.  I do this for another mailng list
> I'm on that sends a cc to the list.  I ctrl-k the to, then ctrl-k the
> cc:, then ctrl-u up in the to: field.  works fine.


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Re: [techtalk] Please help

2000-01-14 Thread Julia Frizzell

At 1:06 PM -0800 1/14/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello All,
>If anyone recieves this please let me know. I seem to
>have seriously goofed up my sendmail. I have not been
>able to post for weeks. Everything gets denied on my
>end.

Came through fine here, Harry!

[copied directly to him as well.]

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Re: [techtalk] question

2000-01-14 Thread K Kirby

 
> > Britta.. I'd love to have this link.. but, this
> > one didn't work.. Would you mind sending it again?
> 
> That link did work for me. However, the url at the site is
> http://faqfinder.ics.uci.edu:8001/  .
> 
> =
> Glen Strom
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Thanks G.. I found that Netscape in windows
didn't like the link.. April sent it to me in 
an im window and it worked fine. 
I appreciate the extra link.. I'll use it.

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RE: [techtalk] Monitor Size

2000-01-14 Thread Linda Walsh



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nils Philippsen
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:14 AM
> To: J B
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [techtalk] Monitor Size
> 
> 
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, J B wrote:
> 
> > trueand the resolutions on those screens are comparable to the 
> > resolution on a TVpretty sucky, not adaquate for AutoCAD at all.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that the thing I described was capable of doing CAD,
> otherwise why would it be a CAD workstation? I think that at least half of
> the price was for the monitor, so it must have been something good.
--
Yeah...there are larger monitors.  I'm running a 20" SGI monitor and
it's actually 19" -- we also have 21" monitors that are actually 20" and
we also sell a 24" monitor that is likely 23" actual.  It's a weird size
though, running at 1800x1200 -- panoramic.




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[techtalk] Test (fri) try#4

2000-01-14 Thread moebius

Test

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[techtalk] Please help

2000-01-14 Thread moebius

Hello All,
If anyone recieves this please let me know. I seem to 
have seriously goofed up my sendmail. I have not been 
able to post for weeks. Everything gets denied on my 
end.
Thanks,

Harry Hoffman
Product Systems Specialist
Restaurants Unlimited Inc.
(206) 634-3082 x. 270


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