[Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?

2011-02-18 Thread Barry G
Hi Folks, last time I checked, the smallest/thinnest keypad Talks-compatible 
phone was the Nokia C5 - does anyone know if there's anything smaller/thinner 
now available please?  I'm looking for something that is less of a brick than 
my N86, relatively speaking, to have as a second phone...

All the best,
Barry G


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Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

I an reading  this on my C
5 which is very small indeed. I like the C 5 very much. For the first time I 
feel I an holding  a phone like many sighted people use.-original message-
Subject: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?
From: "Barry G" 
Date: 18/02/2011 8:54 am

Hi Folks, last time I checked, the smallest/thinnest keypad Talks-compatible 
phone was the Nokia C5 - does anyone know if there's anything smaller/thinner 
now available please?  I'm looking for something that is less of a brick than 
my N86, relatively speaking, to have as a second phone...

All the best,
Barry G


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[Talks] n86

2011-02-18 Thread Jim L
heya folks,
 
With the nokia n86 what is the best standby theme to have as at the moment
have it set to horizontal and when I put it to basic I couldnt seem to
control anything even accessing the menu was hard.
 
Also does the n86 take a micro SD memory card and whats the capacity memory?
can it take 16gb cards?
 
thanks in advance
 
cheers, 
 
Jim
 
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Re: [Talks] n86

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar

Jim

setting it to basic your arrow keys will start programs directly. You need 
to set your arrow keys up in the Settings when in basic mode. Also accessing 
the menu is easy! You just press the talks key twice. This is the same 
regardless of how you have it set Basic or horizontal.


Yes the N86 does support the MicroSDHC cards. This will show up as drive F: 
on the phone. You can put up to a 32GB card in it.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Jim L" 

To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:33 AM
Subject: [Talks] n86



heya folks,

With the nokia n86 what is the best standby theme to have as at the moment
have it set to horizontal and when I put it to basic I couldnt seem to
control anything even accessing the menu was hard.

Also does the n86 take a micro SD memory card and whats the capacity 
memory?

can it take 16gb cards?

thanks in advance

cheers,

Jim

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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar
Yes the settings for selecting access points is read, along with the 
settings for setting the bit rate for the different kind of connection in 
the Nokia Internet Radio program. I would suggest if you used the object 
viewer to setup rolls to do things in the main screen of the Internet Radio 
program that you now do a reset rolls on screen to help insure things are 
working correctly. To do this,

1. start the Internet Radio program and go to the main screen.
2. Press Talks release it and press and hold the Select key for about 1 
second.

3. Now press the select key again.
4. This will bring up a list of two options.
5. Arrow down to reset rolls on screen and press select.
6. Answer YES to reset the rolls.
7. Press SoftKey2 to back out of the Nokia Internet Radio program.

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No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?




The apostrophy is also announced and in e-mail
The icons are read also .-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Bernard Hemmings" 
Date: 18/02/2011 7:16 am

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
down

arrow the first option is last played station,
saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
object

viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



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- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?



It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this issue
know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there phone
still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit" 
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
should

be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

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From: 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [Talks] update should I?



First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, 
Daisy

on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar
Yes it was given in the release notes about reading HELP information like on 
the N86. See the below lines. This is why it is good to read all the release 
note more then one time. Some times you may have to read them 3 or 4 times 
to pick up all the changes. Sometime all models aren't listed just the type 
of phone.


3.3. Access to embedded browser views (e.g. Help screens)
An increasing number of applications are using an embedded version of web 
browser to display content that does not directly come from a web page. 
Examples are the display of Help pages in many applications on 3rd Edition 
FP2 and later phones, contents of e-mail messages in HTML format and the 
Conversations view on Symbian^3 phones.


On touch phones, these screens can be recognized by the fact that the 
virtual keyboard for the browser is displayed, but that navigating the page 
beyond the page title is not possible. Also, the announcement of the number 
of links (or “Page has no links”) is missing.


Version 5.20 offers a method to make the textual content (though not the 
links) in some of these pages accessible upon request: when such a page is 
shown on the screen, simply press [Talks],[Down] to read the page contents. 
If necessary, this will first try to convert the page text into a readable 
format, and then start reading it.


In some cases, it may be necessary to press the key a second time to 
commence reading. Also, this method does not yet work in all applications.


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No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: "Estelita" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


Hi,
I am not using my Nokia N86 in Internet, just wondering if it is possible
now to read the help file offline with this new update?
I didn't remember it mentioned in the Release Notes, or I might just missed
it!
Clarification is very helpful, thank you.

- Original Message - 
From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" ; ;
"The Accessible Phones Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:19 PM
Subject: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


Dear All,

TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest build of Nuance
Talks, offering a wide range of new support for both OVI Maps and newer
Symbian ^3 devices.

For the full release notes please read below.

You can immediately download the latest version of Talks from the TalkNav
web-site, and for those of you needing an update to your license, we can
provide these 24 hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation.

enjoy...

Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
Release Notification

1.  Introduction

We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite – Nuance
TALKS and ZOOMS – Version 5.20 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th
Edition for February 17, 2011.


This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance TALKS. Screen
magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported on Symbian^3 in this release.


For Users with a Premium license this version also contains the new Daisy2go
2.01 minor update.


This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer as the
previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, respectively). The TTS installation file for
Eloquence US English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.


Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated
after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition).
In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is
currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring a new license.

2.  The new handsets

2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone models

The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 “Known
Issues” about some limitations):


Nokia C6-00
Nokia C7-00
Nokia E5-00
Nokia N8-00

We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. However
we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this:


Nokia C5-03
Nokia C6-01
Nokia E7-00

See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version.

3.  What’s New?

This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 compared to the
previous version (5.01).

3.1.  Support for Symbian^3

Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports the new Symbian^3
platform that is used by Nokia in some of its most recent smartphone models,
such as the N8-00 and the C7-00. Support for the just-released E7-00 is
likely, but has not yet been confirmed.


Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner to the approach
used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by relying on a combination of
list navigation using the side keys of the phone together with the ability
to “explore” the screen. As reminder, “exploring” can be started by holding
the finger on one position for about hal

Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Blind Treasures
Bernard, I know you had some issues with updating to the latest firmware on
the e72 a while back. I put off doing it but was wondering since this latest
talks version did it solve the problems that the new firmware caused? Not
sure if I should go a head and update.

Tony 

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:16 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or down
arrow the first option is last played station, saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The object
viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



Bernard Hemmings
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Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


> It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can 
> just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed 
> based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this issue 
> know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there phone 
> still or not.
>
> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
> From: "Kit" 
> Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM
>
> Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved 
> in
> all nokia phones, great man!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
> Yes I think you should install the update for the following.
>
> For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out if
> you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue should
> be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory 
> full
> message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
> gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
> installing the 5.20.3 signed file.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
>> First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
>> carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, Daisy
>> on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
>> update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

Not Bernard but I have e 72 and sugg
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Blind Treasures " 
Date: 18/02/2011 10:28 am

Bernard, I know you had some issues with updating to the latest firmware on
the e72 a while back. I put off doing it but was wondering since this latest
talks version did it solve the problems that the new firmware caused? Not
sure if I should go a head and update.

Tony 

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:16 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or down
arrow the first option is last played station, saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The object
viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



Bernard Hemmings
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Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


> It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can 
> just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed 
> based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this issue 
> know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there phone 
> still or not.
>
> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
> From: "Kit" 
> Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM
>
> Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved 
> in
> all nokia phones, great man!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
> Yes I think you should install the update for the following.
>
> For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out if
> you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue should
> be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory 
> full
> message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
> gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
> installing the 5.20.3 signed file.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
>> First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
>> carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, Daisy
>> on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
>> update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Bernard Hemmings
It's all great now the update is safe and I recommend it talks and the e72 
running the latest firmware is very good now.  I still can't get my e72 to 
see and work with my ethanet printer but my dislike of reading manuals 
probably has a lot to do with that.
So the update is safe now.  and when you get a new text message talks now 
says one new message just like the n95 did.  Before this latest talks update 
you had to click on documents in inbox but now it works as it should.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Blind Treasures " 

To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Bernard, I know you had some issues with updating to the latest firmware 
on
the e72 a while back. I put off doing it but was wondering since this 
latest

talks version did it solve the problems that the new firmware caused? Not
sure if I should go a head and update.

Tony

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] 
On

Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:16 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
down

arrow the first option is last played station, saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
object

viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



Bernard Hemmings
email: bern...@bhemmings.net
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?



It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this issue
know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there phone
still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit" 
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
should

be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [Talks] update should I?



First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, 
Daisy

on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke
I am sorry for my last post on this.  What I wanted to say is that I am not 
Bernard but I have e72 and find there is a big improvement with this latest 
version of Talks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Blind Treasures " 

To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Bernard, I know you had some issues with updating to the latest firmware 
on
the e72 a while back. I put off doing it but was wondering since this 
latest

talks version did it solve the problems that the new firmware caused? Not
sure if I should go a head and update.

Tony

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] 
On

Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:16 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
down

arrow the first option is last played station, saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
object

viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



Bernard Hemmings
email: bern...@bhemmings.net
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?



It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this issue
know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there phone
still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit" 
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
should

be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [Talks] update should I?



First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, 
Daisy

on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke
I continue to be unable to read a long e-mail message though Bernard with 
e72.  How do you overcome this prjoblem?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bernard Hemmings" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


It's all great now the update is safe and I recommend it talks and the e72 
running the latest firmware is very good now.  I still can't get my e72 to 
see and work with my ethanet printer but my dislike of reading manuals 
probably has a lot to do with that.
So the update is safe now.  and when you get a new text message talks now 
says one new message just like the n95 did.  Before this latest talks 
update you had to click on documents in inbox but now it works as it 
should.

Bernard Hemmings
email: bern...@bhemmings.net
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message - 
From: "Blind Treasures " 

To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Bernard, I know you had some issues with updating to the latest firmware 
on
the e72 a while back. I put off doing it but was wondering since this 
latest

talks version did it solve the problems that the new firmware caused? Not
sure if I should go a head and update.

Tony

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] 
On

Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:16 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
down

arrow the first option is last played station, saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
object

viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



Bernard Hemmings
email: bern...@bhemmings.net
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?



It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this 
issue
know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there 
phone

still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit" 
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out 
if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
should

be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [Talks] update should I?



First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, 
Daisy

on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
update? Thanks.
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[Talks] Memory full [was "Re: update should I?"]

2011-02-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Earlier I had speculated that a memory leak in Talks may be contributing 
to these memory full errors. This was based on a incomplete search I did 
on the web. After that speculation, it was pointed out to me that 
sighted userws, who weren't running Talks, were also seeing these memory 
full errors. I verified this by doing a more thorough search. My point 
is that I suspect there was a memory leak in Talks, which has now been 
fixed, and will probably result in many fewer memory full errors for us 
Talks users. However, there are probably still some memory issues in the 
applications bundled with our Series 60 cell phones, so these memory 
full errors may not go away completely.


--

Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com


On 2/17/2011 8:31 PM, Stephen Giggar wrote:

It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can just 
keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed based on there 
usage of the phone. I think most people who had this issue know about how long 
it will take to find out if it happens on there phone still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit"
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Giggar"
To: "Talks Mailing List"
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue should
be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message -
From:
To: "Talks Mailing List"
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [Talks] update should I?



First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, Daisy
on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Bernard Hemmings
yes I think it's great.  one thing puzzles me how they supported a feature 
in maps but not in walk mode.  I don't think to many talks users drive cars. 
for us walk mode is the most important method of travel.  Apart from that I 
think the new talks upgrade is very good for e72 owners.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


I am sorry for my last post on this.  What I wanted to say is that I am not 
Bernard but I have e72 and find there is a big improvement with this latest 
version of Talks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Blind Treasures " 

To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Bernard, I know you had some issues with updating to the latest firmware 
on
the e72 a while back. I put off doing it but was wondering since this 
latest

talks version did it solve the problems that the new firmware caused? Not
sure if I should go a head and update.

Tony

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] 
On

Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:16 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
down

arrow the first option is last played station, saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
object

viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



Bernard Hemmings
email: bern...@bhemmings.net
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?



It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this 
issue
know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there 
phone

still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit" 
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out 
if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
should

be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [Talks] update should I?



First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, 
Daisy

on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Bernard Hemmings
I just press select on each email message and it's read to me.  If a message 
is very important I read it line by line using the down arrow key to read 
each line.  I have zooms disabled that is I turn it off in the  view menu 
after installing talks.  I find the occasional email message that won't read 
and these seem to be in most cases from apple users.
The other day for some odd reason the phone just dumped the 2 mail boxes I 
had been using for months.  There was no email icon on the home screen so I 
went to messaging and my email boxes were gone.  I had to create them from 
scratch then to make one a primary mail box I had to receive an email 
message.  if you don't you are told primary can not be set connect to mail 
box first.  Even if you are connected at the time it will still say this. 
Once you receive a new email message  then you can set the primary.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


I continue to be unable to read a long e-mail message though Bernard with 
e72.  How do you overcome this prjoblem?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bernard Hemmings" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


It's all great now the update is safe and I recommend it talks and the 
e72 running the latest firmware is very good now.  I still can't get my 
e72 to see and work with my ethanet printer but my dislike of reading 
manuals probably has a lot to do with that.
So the update is safe now.  and when you get a new text message talks now 
says one new message just like the n95 did.  Before this latest talks 
update you had to click on documents in inbox but now it works as it 
should.

Bernard Hemmings
email: bern...@bhemmings.net
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message - 
From: "Blind Treasures " 

To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Bernard, I know you had some issues with updating to the latest firmware 
on
the e72 a while back. I put off doing it but was wondering since this 
latest
talks version did it solve the problems that the new firmware caused? 
Not

sure if I should go a head and update.

Tony

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] 
On

Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:16 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
down
arrow the first option is last played station, saved stations 
favourites,

discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
object

viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



Bernard Hemmings
email: bern...@bhemmings.net
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one 
can

just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this 
issue
know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there 
phone

still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen 
reader.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit" 
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is 
solved

in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out 
if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
should

be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I 
haven't

gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

Signed: Stephe

[Talks] Installing the latest talks.

2011-02-18 Thread David R. Stayer
Forgive my ignorance. I have unzipped the talks file from blindsea. 
Which do I install from the 58 fioes listed?  Second I am using windows 
7 and nokie pcsuite.  Thank you.

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Re: [Talks] Installing the latest talks.

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke
You install Talks and d2go provided you have a licence and even if you do 
not you can have a 10 day trial.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: [Talks] Installing the latest talks.


Forgive my ignorance. I have unzipped the talks file from blindsea. Which 
do I install from the 58 fioes listed?  Second I am using windows 7 and 
nokie pcsuite.  Thank you.

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Re: [Talks] Installing the latest talks.

2011-02-18 Thread Brad Keller
You install the Talks 5.20.3.sis file then the TTS of your choice.
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To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:34 AM
Subject: [Talks] Installing the latest talks.


Forgive my ignorance. I have unzipped the talks file from blindsea. 
Which do I install from the 58 fioes listed?  Second I am using windows 
7 and nokie pcsuite.  Thank you.
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Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?

2011-02-18 Thread Barry G
Cheers Eleanor, much appreciated.  From the shortage of other replies, it 
looks like it's the C5 then!


All the best
Barry G
- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?




I an reading  this on my C
5 which is very small indeed. I like the C 5 very much. For the first time 
I feel I an holding  a phone like many sighted people use.-original 
message-

Subject: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?
From: "Barry G" 
Date: 18/02/2011 8:54 am

Hi Folks, last time I checked, the smallest/thinnest keypad 
Talks-compatible phone was the Nokia C5 - does anyone know if there's 
anything smaller/thinner now available please?  I'm looking for something 
that is less of a brick than my N86, relatively speaking, to have as a 
second phone...


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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Jo Luland

Hi Stephen,
In the notes, under "older phones 60 3rd edition" which can still be updated 
to 5.00,my current phone is listed (Nokia n82). Does this mean the new 
update will not work on my phone? I'm going to update to a new phone soon. 
I'm in the process of determining which one will best suit my needs. Thanks 
for any help you can provide.

Jo
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes the settings for selecting access points is read, along with the 
settings for setting the bit rate for the different kind of connection in 
the Nokia Internet Radio program. I would suggest if you used the object 
viewer to setup rolls to do things in the main screen of the Internet 
Radio program that you now do a reset rolls on screen to help insure 
things are working correctly. To do this,

1. start the Internet Radio program and go to the main screen.
2. Press Talks release it and press and hold the Select key for about 1 
second.

3. Now press the select key again.
4. This will bring up a list of two options.
5. Arrow down to reset rolls on screen and press select.
6. Answer YES to reset the rolls.
7. Press SoftKey2 to back out of the Nokia Internet Radio program.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?




The apostrophy is also announced and in e-mail
The icons are read also .-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Bernard Hemmings" 
Date: 18/02/2011 7:16 am

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
down

arrow the first option is last played station,
saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
object

viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



Bernard Hemmings
email: bern...@bhemmings.net
Skype: Bernard Hemmings
Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
Home: 61-02-95841280
Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?



It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this 
issue
know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there 
phone

still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

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No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit" 
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out 
if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
should

be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [Talks] update should I?



First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, 
Daisy

on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

Not Stephen but you should be able to update by installing over your current 
version of
 talks.-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Jo Luland" 
Date: 18/02/2011 5:39 pm

Hi Stephen,
In the notes, under "older phones 60 3rd edition" which can still be updated 
to 5.00,my current phone is listed (Nokia n82). Does this mean the new 
update will not work on my phone? I'm going to update to a new phone soon. 
I'm in the process of determining which one will best suit my needs. Thanks 
for any help you can provide.
Jo
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


> Yes the settings for selecting access points is read, along with the 
> settings for setting the bit rate for the different kind of connection in 
> the Nokia Internet Radio program. I would suggest if you used the object 
> viewer to setup rolls to do things in the main screen of the Internet 
> Radio program that you now do a reset rolls on screen to help insure 
> things are working correctly. To do this,
> 1. start the Internet Radio program and go to the main screen.
> 2. Press Talks release it and press and hold the Select key for about 1 
> second.
> 3. Now press the select key again.
> 4. This will bring up a list of two options.
> 5. Arrow down to reset rolls on screen and press select.
> 6. Answer YES to reset the rolls.
> 7. Press SoftKey2 to back out of the Nokia Internet Radio program.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Eleanor Burke" 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
>>
>> The apostrophy is also announced and in e-mail
>> The icons are read also .-original message-
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>> From: "Bernard Hemmings" 
>> Date: 18/02/2011 7:16 am
>>
>> One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
>> accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
>> down
>> arrow the first option is last played station,
>> saved stations favourites,
>> discover more stations .
>> Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
>> object
>> viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bernard Hemmings
>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net
>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
>> Home: 61-02-95841280
>> Mobile: 61-0412177799
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>
>>
>>> It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
>>> just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
>>> based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this 
>>> issue
>>> know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there 
>>> phone
>>> still or not.
>>>
>>> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>> From: "Kit" 
>>> Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM
>>>
>>> Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
>>> in
>>> all nokia phones, great man!
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes I think you should install the update for the following.
>>>
>>> For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out 
>>> if
>>> you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
>>> should
>>> be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
>>> full
>>> message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
>>> gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
>>> installing the 5.20.3 signed file.
>>>
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: 
>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
>>> Subject: [Talks] update should I?
>>>
>>>
 First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
 carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, 
 Daisy
 on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
 update? Thanks.
 _

Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar
No it doesn't mean that. As long as it is a 3rd or 5th edition phone, the Talks 
5.20.3 will install and run. The n82 is a 3rd edition phone.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Jo Luland" 
Date: 18/02/2011 11:39 AM

Hi Stephen,
In the notes, under "older phones 60 3rd edition" which can still be updated 
to 5.00,my current phone is listed (Nokia n82). Does this mean the new 
update will not work on my phone? I'm going to update to a new phone soon. 
I'm in the process of determining which one will best suit my needs. Thanks 
for any help you can provide.
Jo
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


> Yes the settings for selecting access points is read, along with the 
> settings for setting the bit rate for the different kind of connection in 
> the Nokia Internet Radio program. I would suggest if you used the object 
> viewer to setup rolls to do things in the main screen of the Internet 
> Radio program that you now do a reset rolls on screen to help insure 
> things are working correctly. To do this,
> 1. start the Internet Radio program and go to the main screen.
> 2. Press Talks release it and press and hold the Select key for about 1 
> second.
> 3. Now press the select key again.
> 4. This will bring up a list of two options.
> 5. Arrow down to reset rolls on screen and press select.
> 6. Answer YES to reset the rolls.
> 7. Press SoftKey2 to back out of the Nokia Internet Radio program.
>
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Eleanor Burke" 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
>>
>> The apostrophy is also announced and in e-mail
>> The icons are read also .-original message-
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>> From: "Bernard Hemmings" 
>> Date: 18/02/2011 7:16 am
>>
>> One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
>> accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
>> down
>> arrow the first option is last played station,
>> saved stations favourites,
>> discover more stations .
>> Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
>> object
>> viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bernard Hemmings
>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net
>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
>> Home: 61-02-95841280
>> Mobile: 61-0412177799
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>
>>
>>> It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
>>> just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
>>> based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this 
>>> issue
>>> know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there 
>>> phone
>>> still or not.
>>>
>>> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>> From: "Kit" 
>>> Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM
>>>
>>> Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
>>> in
>>> all nokia phones, great man!
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes I think you should install the update for the following.
>>>
>>> For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out 
>>> if
>>> you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
>>> should
>>> be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
>>> full
>>> message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
>>> gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
>>> installing the 5.20.3 signed file.
>>>
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: 
>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
>>> Subject: [Talks] update should I?
>>>
>>>
 First, I want to clearly state I

[Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Saqib
Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that 
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for 
walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will 
announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the 
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Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?

2011-02-18 Thread Saqib

Hi Barry. How about the E5. It has a qwerty keypad and is retailed at £149.99.
Original message:

Cheers Eleanor, much appreciated.  From the shortage of other replies, it
looks like it's the C5 then!



All the best
Barry G
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From: "Eleanor Burke" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?





I an reading  this on my C
5 which is very small indeed. I like the C 5 very much. For the first time
I feel I an holding  a phone like many sighted people use.-original
message-
Subject: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?
From: "Barry G" 
Date: 18/02/2011 8:54 am



Hi Folks, last time I checked, the smallest/thinnest keypad
Talks-compatible phone was the Nokia C5 - does anyone know if there's
anything smaller/thinner now available please?  I'm looking for something
that is less of a brick than my N86, relatively speaking, to have as a
second phone...



All the best,
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Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar
Did you try all the things given in the release notes for OVI maps? Example 
Talks followed by a long press of soft KEY2? Talks followed by up arrow? Or 
just pressing up arrow a few times? Also what version of maps are you running? 
What phone are you using? Firmware version?

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Subject: [Talks] Ovi Maps
From: Saqib 
Date: 18/02/2011 12:16 PM

Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that 
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for 
walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will 
announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the 
name of the current road and the next turning?

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[Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread Denise Thompson


Hay all
The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an 
updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range 
of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 8GB.
Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in 
business with the latest version.

Denise


At 10:16 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that 
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode 
for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and 
will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of 
revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?


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Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Saqib
Hi Stephen. Talks and long soft key 2 gave me the speed in which the 
vehicle was traveling at. up arrow key didn't tell me anything. I'll 
try Talks and up arrow key tomorrow. I've just updated the firmware on 
my Nokia E5 yesterday and the firmware date is for December 2010 
Version 0.42.014.

Original message:
Did you try all the things given in the release notes for OVI maps? 
Example Talks followed by a long press of soft KEY2? Talks followed by 
up arrow? Or just pressing up arrow a few times? Also what version of 
maps are you running? What phone are you using? Firmware version?



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-original message-
Subject: [Talks] Ovi Maps
From: Saqib 
Date: 18/02/2011 12:16 PM



Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for
walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will
announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the
name of the current road and the next turning?


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[Talks] Where to download the latest talks?

2011-02-18 Thread David Griffith
I have visited the Nuance pages to download the latest Talks but according
to the page I visited the version available is  Release 5.01.1

I do not think that this is  the latest version?
Does anybody have a link to the  latest version? 

Also I installed my original Talks on my N86  into C phone memory by
mistake. I was inexperienced with the phone at the time.
Can I install the  new version of talks into another location without
sighted help?
I understand that the original talks has to be uninstalled for this to
happen?
The problem would then be installing talks without speech presumably.


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Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

Is this updated
 File on its own or in the Talks zip file Deneese? -original message-
Subject: [Talks] D2Go Success!
From: Denise Thompson 
Date: 18/02/2011 6:34 pm


Hay all
The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an 
updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range 
of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 8GB.
Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in 
business with the latest version.
Denise


At 10:16 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
>Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that 
>Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode 
>for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and 
>will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of 
>revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?
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Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

Where do you get that price you quote Saquib,
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?
From: Saqib 
Date: 18/02/2011 6:19 pm

Hi Barry. How about the E5. It has a qwerty keypad and is retailed at £149.99.
Original message:
> Cheers Eleanor, much appreciated.  From the shortage of other replies, it
> looks like it's the C5 then!

> All the best
> Barry G
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eleanor Burke" 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?



>> I an reading  this on my C
>> 5 which is very small indeed. I like the C 5 very much. For the first time
>> I feel I an holding  a phone like many sighted people use.-original
>> message-
>> Subject: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?
>> From: "Barry G" 
>> Date: 18/02/2011 8:54 am

>> Hi Folks, last time I checked, the smallest/thinnest keypad
>> Talks-compatible phone was the Nokia C5 - does anyone know if there's
>> anything smaller/thinner now available please?  I'm looking for something
>> that is less of a brick than my N86, relatively speaking, to have as a
>> second phone...

>> All the best,
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Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

I would say
 The E 5 is a better phone but it is a different shape  to the C 5-original 
message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?
From: Saqib 
Date: 18/02/2011 6:19 pm

Hi Barry. How about the E5. It has a qwerty keypad and is retailed at £149.99.
Original message:
> Cheers Eleanor, much appreciated.  From the shortage of other replies, it
> looks like it's the C5 then!

> All the best
> Barry G
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eleanor Burke" 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?



>> I an reading  this on my C
>> 5 which is very small indeed. I like the C 5 very much. For the first time
>> I feel I an holding  a phone like many sighted people use.-original
>> message-
>> Subject: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?
>> From: "Barry G" 
>> Date: 18/02/2011 8:54 am

>> Hi Folks, last time I checked, the smallest/thinnest keypad
>> Talks-compatible phone was the Nokia C5 - does anyone know if there's
>> anything smaller/thinner now available please?  I'm looking for something
>> that is less of a brick than my N86, relatively speaking, to have as a
>> second phone...

>> All the best,
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[Talks] Looking for some software for the simbian phones

2011-02-18 Thread Adrien Collins
Hi 

I am looking for some software for the simbian phones,
firstly a language translator, english to french and vice
versa, some good text games such as hangman and also an
application which will read text files and other documents. 


Regards

Adrien

 
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:35 AM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: [Talks] question about default profiles

Hi, I am running in to an error message when trying to
update a n86. I go to
menu -> tools -> device manager and then I do not see check
for update. I
see no default profile. On my other n86 I see nokia as the
default profile
for this, anyone remember how to configure this to work?



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Re: [Talks] Where to download the latest talks?

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

Go
 To the blindsea site  David and then mobile and screen readers and you will 
come to a zip file with latest version of Talks.-original message-
Subject: [Talks] Where to download the latest talks?
From: "David Griffith" 
Date: 18/02/2011 6:36 pm

I have visited the Nuance pages to download the latest Talks but according
to the page I visited the version available is  Release 5.01.1

I do not think that this is  the latest version?
Does anybody have a link to the  latest version? 

Also I installed my original Talks on my N86  into C phone memory by
mistake. I was inexperienced with the phone at the time.
Can I install the  new version of talks into another location without
sighted help?
I understand that the original talks has to be uninstalled for this to
happen?
The problem would then be installing talks without speech presumably.


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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Jo Luland

Thanks, Stephen.
Jo
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


No it doesn't mean that. As long as it is a 3rd or 5th edition phone, the 
Talks 5.20.3 will install and run. The n82 is a 3rd edition phone.


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-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Jo Luland" 
Date: 18/02/2011 11:39 AM

Hi Stephen,
In the notes, under "older phones 60 3rd edition" which can still be 
updated

to 5.00,my current phone is listed (Nokia n82). Does this mean the new
update will not work on my phone? I'm going to update to a new phone soon.
I'm in the process of determining which one will best suit my needs. 
Thanks

for any help you can provide.
Jo
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?



Yes the settings for selecting access points is read, along with the
settings for setting the bit rate for the different kind of connection in
the Nokia Internet Radio program. I would suggest if you used the object
viewer to setup rolls to do things in the main screen of the Internet
Radio program that you now do a reset rolls on screen to help insure
things are working correctly. To do this,
1. start the Internet Radio program and go to the main screen.
2. Press Talks release it and press and hold the Select key for about 1
second.
3. Now press the select key again.
4. This will bring up a list of two options.
5. Arrow down to reset rolls on screen and press select.
6. Answer YES to reset the rolls.
7. Press SoftKey2 to back out of the Nokia Internet Radio program.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?




The apostrophy is also announced and in e-mail
The icons are read also .-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Bernard Hemmings" 
Date: 18/02/2011 7:16 am

One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or
down
arrow the first option is last played station,
saved stations favourites,
discover more stations .
Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The
object
viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



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Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one 
can

just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this
issue
know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there
phone
still or not.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen 
reader.

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-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
From: "Kit" 
Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM

Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is 
solved

in
all nokia phones, great man!
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


Yes I think you should install the update for the following.

For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out
if
you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue
should
be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
full
message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I 
haven't

gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
installing the 5.20.3 signed file.

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- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: [Talks] update should I?


First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the 
upgrade

carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device,
Daisy
on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why

Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

2011-02-18 Thread Adrien Collins
Hi Eleanor

Yes I found it. Thanks. Do you know of any good word games
such as hangman and scrabble and those popular games for the
phone? I see the text games folder but I don't recognise any
of them. 


Regards

Adrien

 
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor
Burke
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:55 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


It is on the blind sea site under mobile phone and screen
readers and then there is a link to a zip folder with latest
talks. It is in that zip folder.
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
From: "Adrien Collins" 
Date: 17/02/2011 11:47 pm

Hi Eleanor

Well I have just been back on the website, I can't see the
daisy to go application but I was under the impression that
the 5.2 installer included that application too, I thought
that is how I read the release notes. 


Regards

Adrien

 
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From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor
Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:09 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

Oh sorry Adrian, not Neil, *smile* but that link I gave you
actually opens a 
page with the relevant files.  You obviously want the Talks
5.2 which came 
out today and likewise D2GO.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrien Collins" 
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


> Hi Neil
>
> I have your website open now but I can't seem to locate
the
> downloads, how do I find the up-dates or files to download
> please
>
>
> Regards
>
> Adrien
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil
> Barnfather - TalkNav
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:20 PM
> To: Talks Mailing List; talks...@freelists.org; The
> Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
>
> Dear All,
>
> TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest
> build of Nuance Talks, offering a wide range of new
support
> for both OVI Maps and newer Symbian ^3 devices.
>
> For the full release notes please read below.
>
> You can immediately download the latest version of Talks
> from the TalkNav web-site, and for those of you needing an
> update to your license, we can provide these 24 hours a
day
> 7 days a week with instant activation.
>
> enjoy...
>
> Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
> Release Notification
>
> 1.  Introduction
>
> We proudly announce the release of the Nuance
Accessibility
> Suite - Nuance TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting
> Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th Edition for February 17, 2011.
>
>
> This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in
Nuance
> TALKS. Screen magnification using ZOOMS is not yet
supported
> on Symbian^3 in this release.
>
>
> For Users with a Premium license this version also
contains
> the new Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
>
>
> This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and
> Vocalizer as the previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22,
> respectively). The TTS installation file for Eloquence US
> English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
>
>
> Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition
> licenses generated after November 13th, 2007 (the release
> date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition). In particular, this
> means that it can be installed by any customer who is
> currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without
requiring
> a new license.
>
> 2.  The new handsets
>
> 2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone
> models
>
> The following handsets are newly supported (please see
> section 4 "Known Issues" about some limitations):
>
>
> Nokia C6-00
> Nokia C7-00
> Nokia E5-00
> Nokia N8-00
>
> We also assume the following phones to work without major
> problems. However we have not got enough test results yet
to
> definitely confirm this:
>
>
> Nokia C5-03
> Nokia C6-01
> Nokia E7-00
>
> See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for
> this version.
>
> 3.  What's New?
>
> This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20
> compared to the previous version (5.01).
>
> 3.1.  Support for Symbian^3
>
> Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports
> the new Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some
of
> its most recent smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and
the
> C7-00. Support for the just-released E7-00 is likely, but
> has not yet been confirmed.
>
>
> Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar
manner
> to the approach used for 5th Edition touch screen phones,
by
> relying on a combination of list navigation using the side
> keys of the phone together with the ability to "explore"
the
> screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be started by holding
> the finger on one position for about half a second, and
then
> 

Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread Denise Thompson

In the Talks file. I'd just go ahead and download the latest talks file again.
http://www.blindsea.com
Remember everyone it's under Mobile screen readers.

At 10:44 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:


Is this updated
 File on its own or in the Talks zip file Deneese? -original message-
Subject: [Talks] D2Go Success!
From: Denise Thompson 
Date: 18/02/2011 6:34 pm


Hay all
The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an
updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range
of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 8GB.
Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in
business with the latest version.
Denise


At 10:16 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
>Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
>Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode
>for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and
>will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of
>revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?
>
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Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?

2011-02-18 Thread Hans Pauli Sundstein
As far as i know, so is the smallest and thinnesst compatible phone the 
Nokia n79.

I do'nt know if it still is avaiilable for sale, but try to ask for it.

Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
Fra: Saqib

Dato: 18. februar 2011 19:19
Til: talks@talksusers.com
Emne: Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?

Hi Barry. How about the E5. It has a qwerty keypad and is retailed at 
£149.99.

Original message:

Cheers Eleanor, much appreciated.  From the shortage of other replies, it
looks like it's the C5 then!



All the best
Barry G
- Original Message -
From: "Eleanor Burke" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?





I an reading  this on my C
5 which is very small indeed. I like the C 5 very much. For the first 
time

I feel I an holding  a phone like many sighted people use.-original
message-
Subject: [Talks] Current smallest/thinnest Talks-compatible phone?
From: "Barry G" 
Date: 18/02/2011 8:54 am



Hi Folks, last time I checked, the smallest/thinnest keypad
Talks-compatible phone was the Nokia C5 - does anyone know if there's
anything smaller/thinner now available please?  I'm looking for something
that is less of a brick than my N86, relatively speaking, to have as a
second phone...



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Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
it is separate and on its own in the TalkNav FTP folder.




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On 18 Feb 2011, at 18:44, Eleanor Burke wrote:


Is this updated
File on its own or in the Talks zip file Deneese? -original message-
Subject: [Talks] D2Go Success!
From: Denise Thompson 
Date: 18/02/2011 6:34 pm


Hay all
The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an 
updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range 
of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 8GB.
Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in 
business with the latest version.
Denise


At 10:16 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
> Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that 
> Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode 
> for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and 
> will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of 
> revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?
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Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

never used a game on the phone but hopefully you will get a response from 
someone else. If e2go does not work for you then download it again from the 
blindsea site as the correct file is there now. I have just tried it and it 
works.
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
From: "Adrien Collins" 
Date: 18/02/2011 11:29 PM

Hi Eleanor

Yes I found it. Thanks. Do you know of any good word games
such as hangman and scrabble and those popular games for the
phone? I see the text games folder but I don't recognise any
of them. 


Regards

Adrien

 
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor
Burke
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:55 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


It is on the blind sea site under mobile phone and screen
readers and then there is a link to a zip folder with latest
talks. It is in that zip folder.
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
From: "Adrien Collins" 
Date: 17/02/2011 11:47 pm

Hi Eleanor

Well I have just been back on the website, I can't see the
daisy to go application but I was under the impression that
the 5.2 installer included that application too, I thought
that is how I read the release notes. 


Regards

Adrien

 
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor
Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:09 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

Oh sorry Adrian, not Neil, *smile* but that link I gave you
actually opens a 
page with the relevant files.  You obviously want the Talks
5.2 which came 
out today and likewise D2GO.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrien Collins" 
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


> Hi Neil
>
> I have your website open now but I can't seem to locate
the
> downloads, how do I find the up-dates or files to download
> please
>
>
> Regards
>
> Adrien
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil
> Barnfather - TalkNav
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:20 PM
> To: Talks Mailing List; talks...@freelists.org; The
> Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
>
> Dear All,
>
> TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest
> build of Nuance Talks, offering a wide range of new
support
> for both OVI Maps and newer Symbian ^3 devices.
>
> For the full release notes please read below.
>
> You can immediately download the latest version of Talks
> from the TalkNav web-site, and for those of you needing an
> update to your license, we can provide these 24 hours a
day
> 7 days a week with instant activation.
>
> enjoy...
>
> Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
> Release Notification
>
> 1.  Introduction
>
> We proudly announce the release of the Nuance
Accessibility
> Suite - Nuance TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting
> Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th Edition for February 17, 2011.
>
>
> This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in
Nuance
> TALKS. Screen magnification using ZOOMS is not yet
supported
> on Symbian^3 in this release.
>
>
> For Users with a Premium license this version also
contains
> the new Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
>
>
> This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and
> Vocalizer as the previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22,
> respectively). The TTS installation file for Eloquence US
> English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
>
>
> Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition
> licenses generated after November 13th, 2007 (the release
> date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition). In particular, this
> means that it can be installed by any customer who is
> currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without
requiring
> a new license.
>
> 2.  The new handsets
>
> 2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone
> models
>
> The following handsets are newly supported (please see
> section 4 "Known Issues" about some limitations):
>
>
> Nokia C6-00
> Nokia C7-00
> Nokia E5-00
> Nokia N8-00
>
> We also assume the following phones to work without major
> problems. However we have not got enough test results yet
to
> definitely confirm this:
>
>
> Nokia C5-03
> Nokia C6-01
> Nokia E7-00
>
> See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for
> this version.
>
> 3.  What's New?
>
> This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20
> compared to the previous version (5.01).
>
> 3.1.  Support for Symbian^3
>
> Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports
> the new Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some
of
> its most recent smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and
the
> C7-00. Support for the just-released E7-00 is likely, but
> has not yet been confirmed.
>
>
> Overall, access to S

Re: [Talks] Looking for some software for the simbian phones

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

i think you will get more people worldwide responding to you Adrian if you join 
the other Talks list too.
-original message-
Subject: [Talks] Looking for some software for the simbian phones
From: "Adrien Collins" 
Date: 18/02/2011 11:47 PM

Hi 

I am looking for some software for the simbian phones,
firstly a language translator, english to french and vice
versa, some good text games such as hangman and also an
application which will read text files and other documents. 


Regards

Adrien

 
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:35 AM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: [Talks] question about default profiles

Hi, I am running in to an error message when trying to
update a n86. I go to
menu -> tools -> device manager and then I do not see check
for update. I
see no default profile. On my other n86 I see nokia as the
default profile
for this, anyone remember how to configure this to work?



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Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread albert brown

Hello Denise,
I went to the BlindSea site and downloaded the latest dated D2Go file.
it installed with no problem.

I am using a Nokia N82

Albert




- Original Message - 
From: "Denise Thompson" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!


In the Talks file. I'd just go ahead and download the latest talks file 
again.

http://www.blindsea.com
Remember everyone it's under Mobile screen readers.

At 10:44 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:


Is this updated
 File on its own or in the Talks zip file Deneese? -original message-
Subject: [Talks] D2Go Success!
From: Denise Thompson 
Date: 18/02/2011 6:34 pm


Hay all
The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an
updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range
of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 
8GB.

Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in
business with the latest version.
Denise


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>Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
>Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode
>for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and
>will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of
>revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?
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Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar
I don't know what language you normally use! But did you install the language 
that had the street support for the OVI Maps? I know this will tell you what 
street to turn on. This is in version 3.03 and above of OVI Maps. I don't know 
if that will help or not. I think you can also use the volume keys on the side 
of the phone to raze the voice for the OVI Maps program. Then i think you can 
use the number 4 to have the program re say it if you missed it. Just a 
suggestion.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
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No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps
From: Saqib 
Date: 18/02/2011 12:35 PM

Hi Stephen. Talks and long soft key 2 gave me the speed in which the 
vehicle was traveling at. up arrow key didn't tell me anything. I'll 
try Talks and up arrow key tomorrow. I've just updated the firmware on 
my Nokia E5 yesterday and the firmware date is for December 2010 
Version 0.42.014.
Original message:
> Did you try all the things given in the release notes for OVI maps? 
> Example Talks followed by a long press of soft KEY2? Talks followed by 
> up arrow? Or just pressing up arrow a few times? Also what version of 
> maps are you running? What phone are you using? Firmware version?

> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.

> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


> -original message-
> Subject: [Talks] Ovi Maps
> From: Saqib 
> Date: 18/02/2011 12:16 PM

> Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
> Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for
> walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will
> announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the
> name of the current road and the next turning?

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Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke

thanks Denese. Success now.

Eleanor
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!
From: Denise Thompson 
Date: 18/02/2011 7:28 pm

In the Talks file. I'd just go ahead and download the latest talks file again.
http://www.blindsea.com
Remember everyone it's under Mobile screen readers.

At 10:44 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:

>Is this updated
>  File on its own or in the Talks zip file Deneese? -original message-
>Subject: [Talks] D2Go Success!
>From: Denise Thompson 
>Date: 18/02/2011 6:34 pm
>
>
>Hay all
>The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an
>updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range
>of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 8GB.
>Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in
>business with the latest version.
>Denise
>
>
>At 10:16 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
> >Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
> >Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode
> >for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and
> >will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of
> >revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?
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Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Eleanor and all,

can I just please remind folk that if you wish to drop a simple thank you 
message, that this should be done off list, messages of thanks, whilst highly 
appreciated no doubt, have no place in mainstream list traffic. if we have to 
bar people from the list, or moderate people for this, we shall do, the list 
has far to many folk on it to allow such traffic to be sent to everyone.

as I say, its a kind thought, no doubt appreciated by those who have helped 
you, but the other thousand plus list members do not require this additional 
list traffic.

many thanks.




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On 18 Feb 2011, at 19:47, Eleanor Burke wrote:


thanks Denese. Success now.

Eleanor
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!
From: Denise Thompson 
Date: 18/02/2011 7:28 pm

In the Talks file. I'd just go ahead and download the latest talks file again.
http://www.blindsea.com
Remember everyone it's under Mobile screen readers.

At 10:44 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:

> Is this updated
> File on its own or in the Talks zip file Deneese? -original message-
> Subject: [Talks] D2Go Success!
> From: Denise Thompson 
> Date: 18/02/2011 6:34 pm
> 
> 
> Hay all
> The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an
> updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range
> of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 8GB.
> Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in
> business with the latest version.
> Denise
> 
> 
> At 10:16 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
>> Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
>> Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode
>> for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and
>> will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of
>> revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?
>> 
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Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

2011-02-18 Thread Brad Keller
The only games you will be able to get that will work with a mobile screen 
reader will not work with talks. They only work with the other screen reader 
adn are only availible through that company.
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrien Collins" 
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


Hi Eleanor

Yes I found it. Thanks. Do you know of any good word games
such as hangman and scrabble and those popular games for the
phone? I see the text games folder but I don't recognise any
of them.


Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor
Burke
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:55 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


It is on the blind sea site under mobile phone and screen
readers and then there is a link to a zip folder with latest
talks. It is in that zip folder.
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
From: "Adrien Collins" 
Date: 17/02/2011 11:47 pm

Hi Eleanor

Well I have just been back on the website, I can't see the
daisy to go application but I was under the impression that
the 5.2 installer included that application too, I thought
that is how I read the release notes.


Regards

Adrien


-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor
Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:09 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

Oh sorry Adrian, not Neil, *smile* but that link I gave you
actually opens a
page with the relevant files.  You obviously want the Talks
5.2 which came
out today and likewise D2GO.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrien Collins" 
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


> Hi Neil
>
> I have your website open now but I can't seem to locate
the
> downloads, how do I find the up-dates or files to download
> please
>
>
> Regards
>
> Adrien
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil
> Barnfather - TalkNav
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:20 PM
> To: Talks Mailing List; talks...@freelists.org; The
> Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
>
> Dear All,
>
> TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest
> build of Nuance Talks, offering a wide range of new
support
> for both OVI Maps and newer Symbian ^3 devices.
>
> For the full release notes please read below.
>
> You can immediately download the latest version of Talks
> from the TalkNav web-site, and for those of you needing an
> update to your license, we can provide these 24 hours a
day
> 7 days a week with instant activation.
>
> enjoy...
>
> Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
> Release Notification
>
> 1.  Introduction
>
> We proudly announce the release of the Nuance
Accessibility
> Suite - Nuance TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting
> Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th Edition for February 17, 2011.
>
>
> This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in
Nuance
> TALKS. Screen magnification using ZOOMS is not yet
supported
> on Symbian^3 in this release.
>
>
> For Users with a Premium license this version also
contains
> the new Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
>
>
> This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and
> Vocalizer as the previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22,
> respectively). The TTS installation file for Eloquence US
> English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
>
>
> Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition
> licenses generated after November 13th, 2007 (the release
> date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition). In particular, this
> means that it can be installed by any customer who is
> currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without
requiring
> a new license.
>
> 2.  The new handsets
>
> 2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone
> models
>
> The following handsets are newly supported (please see
> section 4 "Known Issues" about some limitations):
>
>
> Nokia C6-00
> Nokia C7-00
> Nokia E5-00
> Nokia N8-00
>
> We also assume the following phones to work without major
> problems. However we have not got enough test results yet
to
> definitely confirm this:
>
>
> Nokia C5-03
> Nokia C6-01
> Nokia E7-00
>
> See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for
> this version.
>
> 3.  What's New?
>
> This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20
> compared to the previous version (5.01).
>
> 3.1.  Support for Symbian^3
>
> Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports
> the new Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some
of
> its most recent smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and
the
> C7-00. Support for the just-released E7-00 is likely, but
> has not yet been confirmed.
>
>
> Overall, 

Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread David R. Stayer
	I do not eloquence and do not need the daisy file. Which files do I 
download to upgrade my talks?  I have a premium license.  thank you.


On 2/18/2011 3:02 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

Eleanor and all,

can I just please remind folk that if you wish to drop a simple thank you 
message, that this should be done off list, messages of thanks, whilst highly 
appreciated no doubt, have no place in mainstream list traffic. if we have to 
bar people from the list, or moderate people for this, we shall do, the list 
has far to many folk on it to allow such traffic to be sent to everyone.

as I say, its a kind thought, no doubt appreciated by those who have helped 
you, but the other thousand plus list members do not require this additional 
list traffic.

many thanks.




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On 18 Feb 2011, at 19:47, Eleanor Burke wrote:


thanks Denese. Success now.

Eleanor
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!
From: Denise Thompson
Date: 18/02/2011 7:28 pm

In the Talks file. I'd just go ahead and download the latest talks file again.
http://www.blindsea.com
Remember everyone it's under Mobile screen readers.

At 10:44 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:


Is this updated
File on its own or in the Talks zip file Deneese? -original message-
Subject: [Talks] D2Go Success!
From: Denise Thompson
Date: 18/02/2011 6:34 pm


Hay all
The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an
updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range
of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 8GB.
Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in
business with the latest version.
Denise


At 10:16 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:

Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode
for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and
will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of
revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?

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Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!

2011-02-18 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
if you are using the TalkNav FTP, then you just need the Talks 5.2 signed file, 
go to www.talknav.com, click on Nuance Accessibility, then Downloads, then 
click the, here, link to download from TalkNav's FTP directly, then select 
Nuance Accessibility, then Symbian, then 3rd / 5th edition, you're now in the 
correct directory.




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On 18 Feb 2011, at 20:13, David R. Stayer wrote:

I do not eloquence and do not need the daisy file. Which files do I 
download to upgrade my talks?  I have a premium license.  thank you.

On 2/18/2011 3:02 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> Eleanor and all,
> 
> can I just please remind folk that if you wish to drop a simple thank you 
> message, that this should be done off list, messages of thanks, whilst highly 
> appreciated no doubt, have no place in mainstream list traffic. if we have to 
> bar people from the list, or moderate people for this, we shall do, the list 
> has far to many folk on it to allow such traffic to be sent to everyone.
> 
> as I say, its a kind thought, no doubt appreciated by those who have helped 
> you, but the other thousand plus list members do not require this additional 
> list traffic.
> 
> many thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> Talks List Administrator
> 
> Twitter @NeilBarnfather
> 
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> 
> URL: - www.talknav.com
> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
> 
> On 18 Feb 2011, at 19:47, Eleanor Burke wrote:
> 
> 
> thanks Denese. Success now.
> 
> Eleanor
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go Success!
> From: Denise Thompson
> Date: 18/02/2011 7:28 pm
> 
> In the Talks file. I'd just go ahead and download the latest talks file again.
> http://www.blindsea.com
> Remember everyone it's under Mobile screen readers.
> 
> At 10:44 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
> 
>> Is this updated
>> File on its own or in the Talks zip file Deneese? -original message-
>> Subject: [Talks] D2Go Success!
>> From: Denise Thompson
>> Date: 18/02/2011 6:34 pm
>> 
>> 
>> Hay all
>> The wonderful folks that keep up the blindsea site have posted an
>> updated D2Go file. It works like a charm. I've tried it on my range
>> of phones and it works on all of them- E73, N86, N97 mini, N82 and N95 8GB.
>> Thanks the Blindsea guys! Now those of us who use D2Go are in
>> business with the latest version.
>> Denise
>> 
>> 
>> At 10:16 AM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
>>> Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
>>> Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode
>>> for walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and
>>> will announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of
>>> revealing the name of the current road and the next turning?
>>> 
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Re: [Talks] Where to download the latest talks?

2011-02-18 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
David,

The Blind Sea site stores the download files in a ZIP, this contains the entire 
Talks download set, all the synths, all the files etc, so its larger than you 
probably need, if you just want the latest Talks file itself, go to the TalkNav 
FTP site at www.talknav.com and click on Nuance Accessiblity, Downloads, 
TalkNav FTP Site, Nuance Accessibility, Symbian, 3rd / 5th edition and you'll 
see it right there unzipped.




Regards,

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On 18 Feb 2011, at 18:36, David Griffith wrote:

I have visited the Nuance pages to download the latest Talks but according
to the page I visited the version available is  Release 5.01.1

I do not think that this is  the latest version?
Does anybody have a link to the  latest version? 

Also I installed my original Talks on my N86  into C phone memory by
mistake. I was inexperienced with the phone at the time.
Can I install the  new version of talks into another location without
sighted help?
I understand that the original talks has to be uninstalled for this to
happen?
The problem would then be installing talks without speech presumably.


Regards

David Griffith


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[Talks] accessible Nokia PC Suite for Windows 97

2011-02-18 Thread Jim Noseworthy

Hi Folks:

Is there an accessible version of Nokia PC Suite that will run on Windows 7?

Thanks gang.


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Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Jim Ruby
Mine will stop announcing after a wile, wonder if it is a screen saver
issue.


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Behalf Of Saqib
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:16 PM
To: talks@talksusers.com
Subject: [Talks] Ovi Maps

Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that 
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for 
walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will 
announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the 
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Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar
I would guess that it probably is do to the fact of the screen saver coming on. 
Did you try pressing one of the arrow keys to see if Talks said screen saver?

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
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No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps
From: "Jim Ruby" 
Date: 18/02/2011 4:16 PM

Mine will stop announcing after a wile, wonder if it is a screen saver
issue.


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Behalf Of Saqib
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:16 PM
To: talks@talksusers.com
Subject: [Talks] Ovi Maps

Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that 
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for 
walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will 
announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the 
name of the current road and the next turning?

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Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

2011-02-18 Thread Alex Stone
Eleanor, doesn't happen on my n86.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 17 February 2011 20:04
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

Ditto Denese on all my phones.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Denise Thompson" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:56 PM
Subject: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Ok. I've tried to install D2Go on every phone I
have which are phones from 9.1 through version 5.
It doesn't work. It just says cert error, contact
the application creator or something to that
effect. If anyone gets it to install please reveal your secret.
Denise

At 09:19 AM 2/17/2011, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest build of Nuance 
>Talks, offering a wide range of new support for both OVI Maps and newer 
>Symbian ^3 devices.
>
>For the full release notes please read below.
>
>You can immediately download the latest version of Talks from the TalkNav 
>web-site, and for those of you needing an update to your license, we can 
>provide these 24 hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation.
>
>enjoy...
>
>Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
>Release Notification
>
>1.  Introduction
>
>We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - Nuance 
>TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th 
>Edition for February 17, 2011.
>
>
>This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance TALKS. Screen 
>magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported on Symbian^3 in this 
>release.
>
>
>For Users with a Premium license this version also contains the new 
>Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
>
>
>This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer as the 
>previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, respectively). The TTS installation file 
>for Eloquence US English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
>
>
>Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated 
>after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition).

>In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is 
>currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring a new license.
>
>2.  The new handsets
>
>2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone models
>
>The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 "Known 
>Issues" about some limitations):
>
>
>Nokia C6-00
>Nokia C7-00
>Nokia E5-00
>Nokia N8-00
>
>We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. However

>we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this:
>
>
>Nokia C5-03
>Nokia C6-01
>Nokia E7-00
>
>See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version.
>
>3.  What's New?
>
>This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 compared to the 
>previous version (5.01).
>
>3.1.  Support for Symbian^3
>
>Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports the new 
>Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some of its most recent 
>smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and the C7-00. Support for the 
>just-released E7-00 is likely, but has not yet been confirmed.
>
>
>Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner to the approach

>used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by relying on a combination of 
>list navigation using the side keys of the phone together with the ability 
>to "explore" the screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be started by holding

>the finger on one position for about half a second, and then moving around.

>Lifting and tapping again anywhere on the screen will click on the most 
>recently "explored" position.
>
>
>As usual, some features, such as side key navigation, are only available 
>once the phone has been powered off and back on after installing or 
>re-enabling TALKS.
>
>
>As a special feature for Symbian^3 phones which do not include physical 
>[Call] and [Exit] keys, such as the N8-00, two new TALKS shortcuts have 
>been introduced to still be able to perform these important functions 
>quickly:
>
>
>[Talks],[Power] simulates the [Call] key, e.g. to accept an incoming call 
>or to open the list of most recently dialled calls.
>[Talks],[long Power] simulates the [Exit] key, to hang up or reject a call.

>Note that the call is only hung up after the [Power] key is released, 
>unlike with most other "long" TALKS commands.
>
>A few remarks on specific areas with limited accessibility on Symbian^3 
>phones:
>
>. Symbian^3: screen magnification using ZOOMS and Automation are 
>not yet supported.
>
>. Some Symbian^3-specific gestures, such as pinch-to-zoom and 
>long-tapping a menu item to open its context menu are not available while 
>TALKS is running. Anyway, in the case of context menus it is generally 
>possible to access the same functions by navigating to the menu item using 
>the side keys, and the

Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

2011-02-18 Thread Jacob
Same here with D2Go SISx from talknav.com but it works when using the D2Go SISX 
file from blindsea.com. There may be an error with the file from talknav.com 
since its size is smaller than the one form blindsea.com


From: Alex Stone 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:28 PM
To: 'Talks Mailing List' 
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Eleanor, doesn't happen on my n86.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 17 February 2011 20:04
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

Ditto Denese on all my phones.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Denise Thompson" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:56 PM
Subject: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Ok. I've tried to install D2Go on every phone I
have which are phones from 9.1 through version 5.
It doesn't work. It just says cert error, contact
the application creator or something to that
effect. If anyone gets it to install please reveal your secret.
Denise

At 09:19 AM 2/17/2011, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest build of Nuance 
>Talks, offering a wide range of new support for both OVI Maps and newer 
>Symbian ^3 devices.
>
>For the full release notes please read below.
>
>You can immediately download the latest version of Talks from the TalkNav 
>web-site, and for those of you needing an update to your license, we can 
>provide these 24 hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation.
>
>enjoy...
>
>Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
>Release Notification
>
>1.  Introduction
>
>We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - Nuance 
>TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th 
>Edition for February 17, 2011.
>
>
>This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance TALKS. Screen 
>magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported on Symbian^3 in this 
>release.
>
>
>For Users with a Premium license this version also contains the new 
>Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
>
>
>This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer as the 
>previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, respectively). The TTS installation file 
>for Eloquence US English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
>
>
>Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated 
>after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition).

>In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is 
>currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring a new license.
>
>2.  The new handsets
>
>2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone models
>
>The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 "Known 
>Issues" about some limitations):
>
>
>Nokia C6-00
>Nokia C7-00
>Nokia E5-00
>Nokia N8-00
>
>We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. However

>we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this:
>
>
>Nokia C5-03
>Nokia C6-01
>Nokia E7-00
>
>See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version.
>
>3.  What's New?
>
>This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 compared to the 
>previous version (5.01).
>
>3.1.  Support for Symbian^3
>
>Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports the new 
>Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some of its most recent 
>smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and the C7-00. Support for the 
>just-released E7-00 is likely, but has not yet been confirmed.
>
>
>Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner to the approach

>used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by relying on a combination of 
>list navigation using the side keys of the phone together with the ability 
>to "explore" the screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be started by holding

>the finger on one position for about half a second, and then moving around.

>Lifting and tapping again anywhere on the screen will click on the most 
>recently "explored" position.
>
>
>As usual, some features, such as side key navigation, are only available 
>once the phone has been powered off and back on after installing or 
>re-enabling TALKS.
>
>
>As a special feature for Symbian^3 phones which do not include physical 
>[Call] and [Exit] keys, such as the N8-00, two new TALKS shortcuts have 
>been introduced to still be able to perform these important functions 
>quickly:
>
>
>[Talks],[Power] simulates the [Call] key, e.g. to accept an incoming call 
>or to open the list of most recently dialled calls.
>[Talks],[long Power] simulates the [Exit] key, to hang up or reject a call.

>Note that the call is only hung up after the [Power] key is released, 
>unlike with most other "long" TALKS commands.
>
>A few remarks on specific areas with limited accessibility on Symbian^3 
>phones:
>
>. Symbian^3: screen magnification using ZOOMS and Automation

Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

2011-02-18 Thread Eleanor Burke
It would appear that the one on blindsea.com in the Talks Latest Release Zip 
has been uploaded again today as it did not work for me last night but 
tonight it did after I read Denese's post on the matter.



- Original Message - 
From: "Jacob" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Same here with D2Go SISx from talknav.com but it works when using the D2Go 
SISX file from blindsea.com. There may be an error with the file from 
talknav.com since its size is smaller than the one form blindsea.com



From: Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:28 PM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Eleanor, doesn't happen on my n86.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] 
On

Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 17 February 2011 20:04
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

Ditto Denese on all my phones.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Denise Thompson" 

To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:56 PM
Subject: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Ok. I've tried to install D2Go on every phone I
have which are phones from 9.1 through version 5.
It doesn't work. It just says cert error, contact
the application creator or something to that
effect. If anyone gets it to install please reveal your secret.
Denise

At 09:19 AM 2/17/2011, you wrote:

Dear All,

TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest build of Nuance
Talks, offering a wide range of new support for both OVI Maps and newer
Symbian ^3 devices.

For the full release notes please read below.

You can immediately download the latest version of Talks from the TalkNav
web-site, and for those of you needing an update to your license, we can
provide these 24 hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation.

enjoy...

Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
Release Notification

1.  Introduction

We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - Nuance
TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th
Edition for February 17, 2011.


This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance TALKS. Screen
magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported on Symbian^3 in this
release.


For Users with a Premium license this version also contains the new
Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.


This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer as the
previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, respectively). The TTS installation file
for Eloquence US English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.


Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated
after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd 
Edition).



In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is
currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring a new 
license.


2.  The new handsets

2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone models

The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 "Known
Issues" about some limitations):


Nokia C6-00
Nokia C7-00
Nokia E5-00
Nokia N8-00

We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. 
However



we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this:


Nokia C5-03
Nokia C6-01
Nokia E7-00

See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version.

3.  What's New?

This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 compared to the
previous version (5.01).

3.1.  Support for Symbian^3

Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports the new
Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some of its most recent
smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and the C7-00. Support for the
just-released E7-00 is likely, but has not yet been confirmed.


Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner to the 
approach



used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by relying on a combination of
list navigation using the side keys of the phone together with the ability
to "explore" the screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be started by 
holding


the finger on one position for about half a second, and then moving 
around.



Lifting and tapping again anywhere on the screen will click on the most
recently "explored" position.


As usual, some features, such as side key navigation, are only available
once the phone has been powered off and back on after installing or
re-enabling TALKS.


As a special feature for Symbian^3 phones which do not include physical
[Call] and [Exit] keys, such as the N8-00, two new TALKS shortcuts have
been introduced to still be able to perform these important functions
quickly:


[Talks],[Power] simulates the [Call] key, e.g. to accept an incoming call
or to open the list of most recently dialled calls.
[Talks],[long Power] simulates the [Exit] key, to hang up or reject a 
call.



Note that the

[Talks] Mobile games was RE: TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

2011-02-18 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hi:

Am searching to find any accessible games for mobile,
So pleas,e if anyone find please share.


Cheers:
Ramy Moustafa
If music be the food of love... play on.
Mobile:
0020102221750
Personal email:
ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com
Msn and aim messengers:
flutelo...@link.net
Studio email:
harmonystudio2...@gmail.com
facebook profile:
http://www.facebook.com/
Twitter:
moustafa.r...@gmail.com
youtube chanael:
www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Adrien Collins
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:50 PM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

Hi Eleanor

Yes I found it. Thanks. Do you know of any good word games
such as hangman and scrabble and those popular games for the
phone? I see the text games folder but I don't recognise any
of them. 


Regards

Adrien

 
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor
Burke
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:55 AM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


It is on the blind sea site under mobile phone and screen
readers and then there is a link to a zip folder with latest
talks. It is in that zip folder.
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
From: "Adrien Collins" 
Date: 17/02/2011 11:47 pm

Hi Eleanor

Well I have just been back on the website, I can't see the
daisy to go application but I was under the impression that
the 5.2 installer included that application too, I thought
that is how I read the release notes. 


Regards

Adrien

 
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
[mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Eleanor
Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:09 PM
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes

Oh sorry Adrian, not Neil, *smile* but that link I gave you
actually opens a 
page with the relevant files.  You obviously want the Talks
5.2 which came 
out today and likewise D2GO.

Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Adrien Collins" 
To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes


> Hi Neil
>
> I have your website open now but I can't seem to locate
the
> downloads, how do I find the up-dates or files to download
> please
>
>
> Regards
>
> Adrien
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com
> [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Neil
> Barnfather - TalkNav
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:20 PM
> To: Talks Mailing List; talks...@freelists.org; The
> Accessible Phones Discussion List
> Subject: [Talks] TALKS 5.20 Release Notes
>
> Dear All,
>
> TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest
> build of Nuance Talks, offering a wide range of new
support
> for both OVI Maps and newer Symbian ^3 devices.
>
> For the full release notes please read below.
>
> You can immediately download the latest version of Talks
> from the TalkNav web-site, and for those of you needing an
> update to your license, we can provide these 24 hours a
day
> 7 days a week with instant activation.
>
> enjoy...
>
> Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
> Release Notification
>
> 1.  Introduction
>
> We proudly announce the release of the Nuance
Accessibility
> Suite - Nuance TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting
> Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th Edition for February 17, 2011.
>
>
> This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in
Nuance
> TALKS. Screen magnification using ZOOMS is not yet
supported
> on Symbian^3 in this release.
>
>
> For Users with a Premium license this version also
contains
> the new Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
>
>
> This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and
> Vocalizer as the previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22,
> respectively). The TTS installation file for Eloquence US
> English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
>
>
> Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition
> licenses generated after November 13th, 2007 (the release
> date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition). In particular, this
> means that it can be installed by any customer who is
> currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without
requiring
> a new license.
>
> 2.  The new handsets
>
> 2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone
> models
>
> The following handsets are newly supported (please see
> section 4 "Known Issues" about some limitations):
>
>
> Nokia C6-00
> Nokia C7-00
> Nokia E5-00
> Nokia N8-00
>
> We also assume the following phones to work without major
> problems. However we have not got enough test results yet
to
> definitely confirm this:
>
>
> Nokia C5-03
> Nokia C6-01
> Nokia E7-00
>
> See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for
> this version.
>
> 3.  What's New?
>
> This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20
> compared to the previous version (5.01).
>
> 3.1.

Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

2011-02-18 Thread Denise Thompson
The files have been updated so there shouldn't be any more 
difficulties with the D2Go files downloaded. It was just the first 
day, but it has been corrected.

Denise

At 02:36 PM 2/18/2011, you wrote:
Same here with D2Go SISx from talknav.com but it works when using 
the D2Go SISX file from blindsea.com. There may be an error with the 
file from talknav.com since its size is smaller than the one form blindsea.com



From: Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:28 PM
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Eleanor, doesn't happen on my n86.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 17 February 2011 20:04
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

Ditto Denese on all my phones.

Eleanor
- Original Message -
From: "Denise Thompson" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:56 PM
Subject: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Ok. I've tried to install D2Go on every phone I
have which are phones from 9.1 through version 5.
It doesn't work. It just says cert error, contact
the application creator or something to that
effect. If anyone gets it to install please reveal your secret.
Denise

At 09:19 AM 2/17/2011, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest build of Nuance
>Talks, offering a wide range of new support for both OVI Maps and newer
>Symbian ^3 devices.
>
>For the full release notes please read below.
>
>You can immediately download the latest version of Talks from the TalkNav
>web-site, and for those of you needing an update to your license, we can
>provide these 24 hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation.
>
>enjoy...
>
>Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
>Release Notification
>
>1.  Introduction
>
>We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - Nuance
>TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th
>Edition for February 17, 2011.
>
>
>This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance TALKS. Screen
>magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported on Symbian^3 in this
>release.
>
>
>For Users with a Premium license this version also contains the new
>Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
>
>
>This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer as the
>previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, respectively). The TTS installation file
>for Eloquence US English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
>
>
>Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated
>after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition).

>In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is
>currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring a new license.
>
>2.  The new handsets
>
>2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone models
>
>The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 "Known
>Issues" about some limitations):
>
>
>Nokia C6-00
>Nokia C7-00
>Nokia E5-00
>Nokia N8-00
>
>We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. However

>we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this:
>
>
>Nokia C5-03
>Nokia C6-01
>Nokia E7-00
>
>See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version.
>
>3.  What's New?
>
>This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 compared to the
>previous version (5.01).
>
>3.1.  Support for Symbian^3
>
>Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports the new
>Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some of its most recent
>smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and the C7-00. Support for the
>just-released E7-00 is likely, but has not yet been confirmed.
>
>
>Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner to the approach

>used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by relying on a combination of
>list navigation using the side keys of the phone together with the ability
>to "explore" the screen. As reminder, "exploring" can be started by holding

>the finger on one position for about half a second, and then moving around.

>Lifting and tapping again anywhere on the screen will click on the most
>recently "explored" position.
>
>
>As usual, some features, such as side key navigation, are only available
>once the phone has been powered off and back on after installing or
>re-enabling TALKS.
>
>
>As a special feature for Symbian^3 phones which do not include physical
>[Call] and [Exit] keys, such as the N8-00, two new TALKS shortcuts have
>been introduced to still be able to perform these important functions
>quickly:
>
>
>[Talks],[Power] simulates the [Call] key, e.g. to accept an incoming call
>or to open the list of most recently dialled calls.
>[Talks],[long Power] simulates the [Exit] key, to hang up or reject a call.

>Note that the call is only hung up after the [Power] key is released,
>unlike with most other "long"

Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

2011-02-18 Thread Alex Stone
Stephen, I did have d2go on my n86, and installed the new version over the
top, and it worked fine.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
Sent: 17 February 2011 22:52
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error

Just wondering did you remove the old D2GO file first and then try 
installing the new one? That is the only thing I can think of being I didn't

have D2GO on my N95 first.

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: "Farfar Carlson" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Steven,

Same problem as Eleanor and with a N95. I used the file in the Blindsee zip
package.

However I had already installed Talks 5.20 from the earlier posted ftp site.

Is there any possibility that the signing needs to be the same to make
Daisy2Go work? Does it need to be installed to the Talks package that it
came with?

Dave
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Giggar" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 13:42
Subject: Re: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Try downloading the ZIP file from the blind sea web site and it should have
the latest files for Talks and maybe that D2Go file will work. At least it
worked on my N95. Remember the Talks zip is under the Mobile Screen reader
link.
www.blindsea.com

Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: "Denise Thompson" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: [Talks] D2Go certificate error


Ok. I've tried to install D2Go on every phone I
have which are phones from 9.1 through version 5.
It doesn't work. It just says cert error, contact
the application creator or something to that
effect. If anyone gets it to install please reveal your secret.
Denise

At 09:19 AM 2/17/2011, you wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>TalkNav are delighted to confirm the release of the latest build of Nuance
>Talks, offering a wide range of new support for both OVI Maps and newer
>Symbian ^3 devices.
>
>For the full release notes please read below.
>
>You can immediately download the latest version of Talks from the TalkNav
>web-site, and for those of you needing an update to your license, we can
>provide these 24 hours a day 7 days a week with instant activation.
>
>enjoy...
>
>Nuance TALKS&ZOOMS Version 5.20
>Release Notification
>
>1.  Introduction
>
>We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - Nuance
>TALKS and ZOOMS - Version 5.20 supporting Series 60 3rd Edition / 5th
>Edition for February 17, 2011.
>
>
>This version also introduces support for Symbian^3 in Nuance TALKS. Screen
>magnification using ZOOMS is not yet supported on Symbian^3 in this
>release.
>
>
>For Users with a Premium license this version also contains the new
>Daisy2go 2.01 minor update.
>
>
>This release uses the same versions of Eloquence and Vocalizer as the
>previous one (6.1.123 and 5.22, respectively). The TTS installation file
>for Eloquence US English has been updated to extend the user dictionary.
>
>
>Version 5.20 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated
>after November 13th, 2007 (the release date of TALKS 3.50 for 3rd Edition).
>In particular, this means that it can be installed by any customer who is
>currently able to run version 4.11 or 5.01 without requiring a new license.
>
>2.  The new handsets
>
>2.1.  Changes to the list of supported phone models
>
>The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 "Known
>Issues" about some limitations):
>
>
>Nokia C6-00
>Nokia C7-00
>Nokia E5-00
>Nokia N8-00
>
>We also assume the following phones to work without major problems. However
>we have not got enough test results yet to definitely confirm this:
>
>
>Nokia C5-03
>Nokia C6-01
>Nokia E7-00
>
>See section 6 for a full list of compatible handsets for this version.
>
>3.  What's New?
>
>This section lists the improvements of TALKS&ZOOMS 5.20 compared to the
>previous version (5.01).
>
>3.1.  Support for Symbian^3
>
>Nuance TALKS 5.20 is the first screen reader that supports the new
>Symbian^3 platform that is used by Nokia in some of its most recent
>smartphone models, such as the N8-00 and the C7-00. Support for the
>just-released E7-00 is likely, but has not yet been confirmed.
>
>
>Overall, access to Symbian^3 works in a very similar manner to the approach
>used for 5th Edition touch screen phones, by relying on a combination of
>list navigation using the side keys of the phone together with the ability
>t

[Talks] n86 back cover

2011-02-18 Thread Jim L
heya folks,
 
Am having trouble taking the back cover off my n86, can anyone help me
please
 
cheers,
 
Jim
 
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Re: [Talks] n86 back cover

2011-02-18 Thread martin wilsher
Hi.

Ok the cover of the n86 difficult to take off for a reason, and that reason
is it holds the memory card in place.
 turn the phone over in your hand so the back is facing up towards the
ceiling and the camera is furthest away from you.  The lower half of the
cover is flat below the lens slider.  On the bottom edge there is a little
groove you can put a pair of tweezers into and lever upwards away from the
phone.  The cover is a pig to get off, and is quite stiff, indeed, I was so
worried I purchased two more, just in case one bust.  The cover will come
away in one piece, exposing the battery and the sim slot, as well as the
memory card slot, which is to the right of the lens cover.  The sim slot is
accessed by taking the battery out and sliding the sim into a little slot on
the right of the now exposed back face of the phone, I can't remember which
way it goes in, but once it's in it stays well in.  You then replace the
battery and slide the memory card into the slot half way, where you will
feel resistance, as there's a spring.  Hold the memory card in while
replacing the cover, top edge first, so the top edge snaps over the memory
card, the fitting is very snug, so don't worry about a little pressure.

Hth.
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Subject: [Talks] n86 back cover

heya folks,
 
Am having trouble taking the back cover off my n86, can anyone help me
please
 
cheers,
 
Jim
 
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Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread mr C
I'm using this new TALKS on my N82 and it's working just fine. So far
I haven't had any more of the memory full issues which is great.

Can someone please either post a direct link or email me a link or the
file for installing Nokia Internet Radio on my N82. My email address
is: mrc1...@gmail.com

Thanks in advance.

Julian

On 2/18/11, Jo Luland  wrote:
> Thanks, Stephen.
> Jo
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
>> No it doesn't mean that. As long as it is a 3rd or 5th edition phone, the
>> Talks 5.20.3 will install and run. The n82 is a 3rd edition phone.
>>
>> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>
>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>
>>
>> -original message-
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>> From: "Jo Luland" 
>> Date: 18/02/2011 11:39 AM
>>
>> Hi Stephen,
>> In the notes, under "older phones 60 3rd edition" which can still be
>> updated
>> to 5.00,my current phone is listed (Nokia n82). Does this mean the new
>> update will not work on my phone? I'm going to update to a new phone soon.
>> I'm in the process of determining which one will best suit my needs.
>> Thanks
>> for any help you can provide.
>> Jo
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>
>>
>>> Yes the settings for selecting access points is read, along with the
>>> settings for setting the bit rate for the different kind of connection in
>>> the Nokia Internet Radio program. I would suggest if you used the object
>>> viewer to setup rolls to do things in the main screen of the Internet
>>> Radio program that you now do a reset rolls on screen to help insure
>>> things are working correctly. To do this,
>>> 1. start the Internet Radio program and go to the main screen.
>>> 2. Press Talks release it and press and hold the Select key for about 1
>>> second.
>>> 3. Now press the select key again.
>>> 4. This will bring up a list of two options.
>>> 5. Arrow down to reset rolls on screen and press select.
>>> 6. Answer YES to reset the rolls.
>>> 7. Press SoftKey2 to back out of the Nokia Internet Radio program.
>>>
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" 
>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>>
>>>

 The apostrophy is also announced and in e-mail
 The icons are read also .-original message-
 Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
 From: "Bernard Hemmings" 
 Date: 18/02/2011 7:16 am

 One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
 accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or
 down
 arrow the first option is last played station,
 saved stations favourites,
 discover more stations .
 Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The
 object
 viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.



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 Home: 61-02-95841280
 Mobile: 61-0412177799

 - Original Message -
 From: "Stephen Giggar" 
 To: "Talks Mailing List" 
 Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


> It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one
> can
> just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
> based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this
> issue
> know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there
> phone
> still or not.
>
> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen
> reader.
> Signed: Stephen Giggar
> Skype: dr-phone.
>
> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
> From: "Kit" 
> Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM
>
> Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is
> solved
> in
> all nokia phones, great man!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
> Yes I think you should install the update for t

Re: [Talks] update should I?

2011-02-18 Thread Alex Stone
Bernard, having not tried it yet, does it not support walk mode? If not,
it's not the replacement for Wayfinder access I was hoping it would be.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
Sent: 18 February 2011 13:24
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?

yes I think it's great.  one thing puzzles me how they supported a feature 
in maps but not in walk mode.  I don't think to many talks users drive cars.

for us walk mode is the most important method of travel.  Apart from that I 
think the new talks upgrade is very good for e72 owners.

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Mobile: 61-0412177799

- Original Message - 
From: "Eleanor Burke" 
To: "Talks Mailing List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?


>I am sorry for my last post on this.  What I wanted to say is that I am not

>Bernard but I have e72 and find there is a big improvement with this latest

>version of Talks.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Blind Treasures " 
> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>
>
>> Bernard, I know you had some issues with updating to the latest firmware 
>> on
>> the e72 a while back. I put off doing it but was wondering since this 
>> latest
>> talks version did it solve the problems that the new firmware caused? Not
>> sure if I should go a head and update.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:16 AM
>> To: Talks Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>
>> One thing I have noticed the radio feature on my e72 is much more
>> accessible.  After selecting radio type and connection now when I up or 
>> down
>> arrow the first option is last played station, saved stations favourites,
>> discover more stations .
>> Before these choices did not speak when you arrowed  over them.  The 
>> object
>> viewer improved the radio a bit but now it's much better.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bernard Hemmings
>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net
>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings
>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net
>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net
>> Home: 61-02-95841280
>> Mobile: 61-0412177799
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>
>>
>>> It may take me a while to find out about the memory full. So any one can
>>> just keep a eye on what they do and people should know if it is fixed
>>> based on there usage of the phone. I think most people who had this 
>>> issue
>>> know about how long it will take to find out if it happens on there 
>>> phone
>>> still or not.
>>>
>>> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>>
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>> From: "Kit" 
>>> Date: 17/02/2011 8:06 PM
>>>
>>> Wow, pls keep us up to date Steve.  If the memory full problem is solved
>>> in
>>> all nokia phones, great man!
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Stephen Giggar" 
>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:24 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Talks] update should I?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes I think you should install the update for the following.
>>>
>>> For the Nokia Internet Radio program? It works OK. Also as pointed out 
>>> if
>>> you read a lot of EMail and the like on your phone the memory issue 
>>> should
>>> be fixed. Normally it would take about 80 to 90 email before the memory
>>> full
>>> message would come out without turning off and on the handset. I haven't
>>> gotten that many emails on my phone yet as far as reading them after
>>> installing the 5.20.3 signed file.
>>>
>>> Signed: Stephen Giggar
>>> Skype: dr-phone.
>>>
>>> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
>>> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: 
>>> To: "Talks Mailing List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:12 PM
>>> Subject: [Talks] update should I?
>>>
>>>
 First, I want to clearly state I read the release notes for the upgrade
 carefully. I am wondering since I do not use a touch screen device, 
 Daisy
 on my phone, or OVI maps, is there another good reason why I should
 update? Thanks.
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Re: [Talks] n86 back cover

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar
No you are not doing the memory card correct. You need to press in on the 
memory card until you feel it click. Then when you remove your finger, the 
memory card will stay in the phone. The back of the n86 is used for the FM 
transmitter. Like i said, the memory card locks in on it's own. To remove the 
memory card, press in on it and you will feel a click and then when you remove 
your finger it will pop out so you then can pull it out. Now as far as removing 
the back of the n86, i use a dine to stick in the plot and then i turn the dine 
and the back of the n86 will pop lose so i can then use my fingers to remove 
it. But again, the back of the n86 doesn't hold the memory card in the phone if 
the memory card is put into the phone correctly. Like i said you need to press 
it in until it clicks and then release it. You need to press it in and it will 
go down below the edge of the plot before it will click. I use a paper click 
being i do not have any long fingernails.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] n86 back cover
From: "martin wilsher" 
Date: 18/02/2011 5:18 PM

Hi.

Ok the cover of the n86 difficult to take off for a reason, and that reason
is it holds the memory card in place.
 turn the phone over in your hand so the back is facing up towards the
ceiling and the camera is furthest away from you.  The lower half of the
cover is flat below the lens slider.  On the bottom edge there is a little
groove you can put a pair of tweezers into and lever upwards away from the
phone.  The cover is a pig to get off, and is quite stiff, indeed, I was so
worried I purchased two more, just in case one bust.  The cover will come
away in one piece, exposing the battery and the sim slot, as well as the
memory card slot, which is to the right of the lens cover.  The sim slot is
accessed by taking the battery out and sliding the sim into a little slot on
the right of the now exposed back face of the phone, I can't remember which
way it goes in, but once it's in it stays well in.  You then replace the
battery and slide the memory card into the slot half way, where you will
feel resistance, as there's a spring.  Hold the memory card in while
replacing the cover, top edge first, so the top edge snaps over the memory
card, the fitting is very snug, so don't worry about a little pressure.

Hth.
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: 18 February 2011 23:08
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: [Talks] n86 back cover

heya folks,

Am having trouble taking the back cover off my n86, can anyone help me
please

cheers,

Jim

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Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar
I thought I would post this just encase it help you. This is from the 
release note file and what it says about OVI Maps. There is some limitation 
in Walk mode. So please read the below. The suggestion about drive mode with 
the pressing of up arrow may also help you.


* On the "My Position" screen, TALKS reads the address of the current 
position by default. Pressing [Talks],[long Key 2] for additional 
information also reads the city/region.
* While following a route on the "Drive" and "Walk" screens, TALKS will read 
the street and distance to the next turn by default, and give additional 
information (e.g. current position, distance to destination etc.) when 
pressing [Talks],[long Key 2].
* While following a route in "driving" mode, it is possible to preview the 
next turns by pressing [Up] several times. This will read the street names 
and distances to travel for each of the turns. This feature is not available 
in "walking" mode.
* While following a route, the standard keyboard commands of Ovi Maps are 
available, such as [4] to repeat reading of the last instruction and [2] to 
save the current position as a favourite.
* Additional services, such as "Weather", "Events" or "More" in the main 
menu are not yet accessible.
* The contents of the "About" screen (under Options > Support) are currently 
not read.



Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.

- Original Message - 
From: "Saqib" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps


Hi Stephen. Talks and long soft key 2 gave me the speed in which the 
vehicle was traveling at. up arrow key didn't tell me anything. I'll try 
Talks and up arrow key tomorrow. I've just updated the firmware on my 
Nokia E5 yesterday and the firmware date is for December 2010 Version 
0.42.014.

Original message:
Did you try all the things given in the release notes for OVI maps? 
Example Talks followed by a long press of soft KEY2? Talks followed by up 
arrow? Or just pressing up arrow a few times? Also what version of maps 
are you running? What phone are you using? Firmware version?



Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.



Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.




-original message-
Subject: [Talks] Ovi Maps
From: Saqib 
Date: 18/02/2011 12:16 PM



Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for
walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will
announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the
name of the current road and the next turning?


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Re: [Talks] n86 back cover

2011-02-18 Thread martin wilsher
Ok Stephen, will try pushing it in a bit harder *smile*  

-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
Sent: 18 February 2011 23:52
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] n86 back cover

No you are not doing the memory card correct. You need to press in on the
memory card until you feel it click. Then when you remove your finger, the
memory card will stay in the phone. The back of the n86 is used for the FM
transmitter. Like i said, the memory card locks in on it's own. To remove
the memory card, press in on it and you will feel a click and then when you
remove your finger it will pop out so you then can pull it out. Now as far
as removing the back of the n86, i use a dine to stick in the plot and then
i turn the dine and the back of the n86 will pop lose so i can then use my
fingers to remove it. But again, the back of the n86 doesn't hold the memory
card in the phone if the memory card is put into the phone correctly. Like i
said you need to press it in until it clicks and then release it. You need
to press it in and it will go down below the edge of the plot before it will
click. I use a paper click being i do not have any long fingernails.

Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader.
Signed: Stephen Giggar
Skype: dr-phone.

Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works.
No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design.


-original message-
Subject: Re: [Talks] n86 back cover
From: "martin wilsher" 
Date: 18/02/2011 5:18 PM

Hi.

Ok the cover of the n86 difficult to take off for a reason, and that reason
is it holds the memory card in place.
 turn the phone over in your hand so the back is facing up towards the
ceiling and the camera is furthest away from you.  The lower half of the
cover is flat below the lens slider.  On the bottom edge there is a little
groove you can put a pair of tweezers into and lever upwards away from the
phone.  The cover is a pig to get off, and is quite stiff, indeed, I was so
worried I purchased two more, just in case one bust.  The cover will come
away in one piece, exposing the battery and the sim slot, as well as the
memory card slot, which is to the right of the lens cover.  The sim slot is
accessed by taking the battery out and sliding the sim into a little slot on
the right of the now exposed back face of the phone, I can't remember which
way it goes in, but once it's in it stays well in.  You then replace the
battery and slide the memory card into the slot half way, where you will
feel resistance, as there's a spring.  Hold the memory card in while
replacing the cover, top edge first, so the top edge snaps over the memory
card, the fitting is very snug, so don't worry about a little pressure.

Hth.
-Original Message-
From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jim L
Sent: 18 February 2011 23:08
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: [Talks] n86 back cover

heya folks,

Am having trouble taking the back cover off my n86, can anyone help me
please

cheers,

Jim

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Re: [Talks] n86 back cover

2011-02-18 Thread martin wilsher
Wow, it goes in far don't it. *smile* I was still able to use it the old
way, but now glad I know how far I can push the memory card, as it were,
always a bit worried about pushing things like that hard, as they're so
fragile.

Thanks for the tip.

Hope to hear from you soon.
 
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Behalf Of martin wilsher
Sent: 19 February 2011 00:03
To: 'Talks Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Talks] n86 back cover

Ok Stephen, will try pushing it in a bit harder *smile*  

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From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stephen Giggar
Sent: 18 February 2011 23:52
To: Talks Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Talks] n86 back cover

No you are not doing the memory card correct. You need to press in on the
memory card until you feel it click. Then when you remove your finger, the
memory card will stay in the phone. The back of the n86 is used for the FM
transmitter. Like i said, the memory card locks in on it's own. To remove
the memory card, press in on it and you will feel a click and then when you
remove your finger it will pop out so you then can pull it out. Now as far
as removing the back of the n86, i use a dine to stick in the plot and then
i turn the dine and the back of the n86 will pop lose so i can then use my
fingers to remove it. But again, the back of the n86 doesn't hold the memory
card in the phone if the memory card is put into the phone correctly. Like i
said you need to press it in until it clicks and then release it. You need
to press it in and it will go down below the edge of the plot before it will
click. I use a paper click being i do not have any long fingernails.

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Subject: Re: [Talks] n86 back cover
From: "martin wilsher" 
Date: 18/02/2011 5:18 PM

Hi.

Ok the cover of the n86 difficult to take off for a reason, and that reason
is it holds the memory card in place.
 turn the phone over in your hand so the back is facing up towards the
ceiling and the camera is furthest away from you.  The lower half of the
cover is flat below the lens slider.  On the bottom edge there is a little
groove you can put a pair of tweezers into and lever upwards away from the
phone.  The cover is a pig to get off, and is quite stiff, indeed, I was so
worried I purchased two more, just in case one bust.  The cover will come
away in one piece, exposing the battery and the sim slot, as well as the
memory card slot, which is to the right of the lens cover.  The sim slot is
accessed by taking the battery out and sliding the sim into a little slot on
the right of the now exposed back face of the phone, I can't remember which
way it goes in, but once it's in it stays well in.  You then replace the
battery and slide the memory card into the slot half way, where you will
feel resistance, as there's a spring.  Hold the memory card in while
replacing the cover, top edge first, so the top edge snaps over the memory
card, the fitting is very snug, so don't worry about a little pressure.

Hth.
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Sent: 18 February 2011 23:08
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Subject: [Talks] n86 back cover

heya folks,

Am having trouble taking the back cover off my n86, can anyone help me
please

cheers,

Jim

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[Talks] daisy to go

2011-02-18 Thread Jim L
heya folks,
 
just starting using this daisy to go, does it only recognize daisy books? or
can it play normal audiobooks? as everytime I try to add this non daisy book
to its database keeps saying no data found or no something anyway
 
any help will be appreciated
 
cheers,
 
Jim
 
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Re: [Talks] daisy to go

2011-02-18 Thread Stephen Giggar

Jim

Are you using MP3 books?
Did you use the DaisyFy Option under the Options menu? That is the only way 
to add a non Daisy book.


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From: "Jim L" 

To: "'Talks Mailing List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:35 PM
Subject: [Talks] daisy to go



heya folks,

just starting using this daisy to go, does it only recognize daisy books? 
or
can it play normal audiobooks? as everytime I try to add this non daisy 
book

to its database keeps saying no data found or no something anyway

any help will be appreciated

cheers,

Jim

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Re: [Talks] n86 back cover

2011-02-18 Thread Jo Taliaferro
Hi Jim,
Taking off the back cover of the N86 is a little tricky because it's
difficult to know where it separates from what would be the back of the
phone at the top.  I've found some small indentations near the bottom of the
back cover that require a little fingernail power as you also push the cover
toward the bottom of the phone.  The cover takes up about three-fourths of
the back of the phone and I've learned that you can't force it but you do
have to be firm.  Try using one hand to find those little slots on the sides
and the other to push the back cover toward the bottom of the phone.  If you
can just lift one corner of the cover, at the bottom on the left or right
side, it should work.  Remember, the back cover is very thin.  I hope this
helps some.  Sorry for the length of the explanation.
Regards,
Rev. Jo Taliaferro

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 5:08 PM
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Subject: [Talks] n86 back cover

heya folks,
 
Am having trouble taking the back cover off my n86, can anyone help me
please
 
cheers,
 
Jim
 
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Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Sabaruddin Isa
hi Saqib

May i have the link on ur demo on OviMaps please.
 Thank you in advance.

On 2/19/11, Saqib  wrote:
> Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that
> Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for
> walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will
> announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the
> name of the current road and the next turning?
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Re: [Talks] Ovi Maps

2011-02-18 Thread Georges Zaynoun

How do I start ovi maps on my c5?
Original message:
Hi. I had given Ovi Maps a go today with Talks. It seems to me that 
Talks will not announce the current street when in navogation mode for 
walk or drive. Talks will count down the remaining distance and will 
announce once a turning has been made.  Is there a way of revealing the 
name of the current road and the next turning?


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