Re: [Talks] Nokia e71
Both phones in this case are for the business market. This is true for all the E-Series phones. The E stands for Enterprize Edition which means businesses. So the E50, E51, E52, e55, E60, E61, E61I, E62, E63, E65, e66, E70, E71, E71X, E72, E75, E90 are all designed for the business user. The functionality between all the models differ in function as far as what tey have for the Symbian version that they run. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Bernard Hemmings" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 Well as I did say as far as I knew they were similar as I was not certain. A review I read a few weeks ago claimed they were almost the same but the e72 was aimed for the business market. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Stephen Giggar" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 I agree. The two phone are not even close. They are totally different. Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader. Signed by: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 From: "Christopher Chaltain" Date: 23/11/2010 7:26 PM According to GSMArena.com the E71 and E72 are running different levels of the OS. E71: Symbian OS 9.2, Series 60 v3.1 UI E72: Symbian OS 9.3, Series 60 v3.2 UI So I'm not sure it's fair to speculate how a FW update on one phone will compare to a FW update on the other. Either way, my advice is that if it isn't broken, don't fix it. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:13 PM To: Talks Mailing List Sub ject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 As I said it probably will have problems. As far as I know the e71 and e72 are very similar. If it were me I would wait until the next talks release as the firmware update is nothing to write home about anyway. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Ramy Moustafa" To: "'Talks Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 Thanks allot Dear Bernard, hope it will not have problems. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love, play on... email and msn: flutelo...@link.net facebook: www.facebook.com/moustafa.ramy web site: www.youtube.com/goldenear82 -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:25 AM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 If you are not having any current issues I would leave well enough alone at this time. if your e71 uses the same version of symian as the e72 and n86 then it is likely you will have the same issues. Remember you can't roll back and we have no idea when the problem will be corrected. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Ramy Moustafa" To: "'Talks Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:35 AM Subject: [Talks] Nokia e71 Hi All: I will take nokia e71 tomorrow from a person and would like to know, if I updated its software to the latest, will it has the same issues as the e72 and similar phones with talks? And also, how can I make the full reset issue? Here, its power, 3 - and the call key, What about the e71? Thanks in advance. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love, play on... email and msn: flutelo...@link.net facebook: www.facebook.com/moustafa.ramy web site: www.youtube.com/goldenear82 ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talkn
[Talks] latest message from talknav regarding gps solutions.
Hi. I just got a message from talknav regarding accessible gps solutions. I understand full well they are a business and should promote there own products, and are doing so by mentioning the fact they sell a range of code factory products. However, I do think there message is slightly misleading, in that it says "as you'll have been aware from the recent demise of Wayfinder Access, users of the Symbian operating system have recently lost their only accessible GPS option on their Nokia phones." only accessible option? what about loadstone? OK, I will admit loadstone isn't exactly a full gps solution as you have to provide it with data, never the less, it is an alternative free option for symbian, as both the options talknav are suggesting would require spending money either to by a copy of mobile speak to access ovi maps, or to buy a windows mobile device to use mobile geo. Whereas loadstone is free, and works with existing versions of talks, and once it is provided with data it can work as an accessible solution. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Nokia e71
Hi steven: But do u think that there are huge difference between the e71 and e72? >From what I read there are no important difference between them except in the headphone jack, the internal memory adnso on. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love, play on... email and msn: flutelo...@link.net facebook: www.facebook.com/moustafa.ramy web site: www.youtube.com/goldenear82 -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:41 PM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 Both phones in this case are for the business market. This is true for all the E-Series phones. The E stands for Enterprize Edition which means businesses. So the E50, E51, E52, e55, E60, E61, E61I, E62, E63, E65, e66, E70, E71, E71X, E72, E75, E90 are all designed for the business user. The functionality between all the models differ in function as far as what tey have for the Symbian version that they run. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Bernard Hemmings" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 > Well as I did say as far as I knew they were similar as I was not certain. > A review I read a few weeks ago claimed they were almost the same but the > e72 was aimed for the business market. > Bernard Hemmings > email: bern...@bhemmings.net > Skype: Bernard Hemmings > Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net > ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net > Home: 61-02-95841280 > Mobile: 61-0412177799 > > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen Giggar" > To: "Talks Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 > > >>I agree. The two phone are not even close. They are totally different. >> >> Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader. >> Signed by: Stephen Giggar >> Skype: dr-phone. >> >> Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works >> No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design >> >> >> >> -original message- >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 >> From: "Christopher Chaltain" >> Date: 23/11/2010 7:26 PM >> >> According to GSMArena.com the E71 and E72 are running different levels of >> the OS. >> E71: Symbian OS 9.2, Series 60 v3.1 UI >> E72: Symbian OS 9.3, Series 60 v3.2 UI >> So I'm not sure it's fair to speculate how a FW update on one phone will >> compare to a FW update on the other. Either way, my advice is that if it >> isn't broken, don't fix it. >> >> >> -- >> Christopher >> chalt...@gmail.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >> On >> Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings >> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:13 PM >> To: Talks Mailing List >> Sub ject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 >> >> As I said it probably will have problems. As far as I know the e71 and >> e72 >> are very similar. If it were me I would wait until the next talks >> release >> as the firmware update is nothing to write home about anyway. >> Bernard Hemmings >> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >> Home: 61-02-95841280 >> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Ramy Moustafa" >> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:41 AM >> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 >> >> >>> Thanks allot Dear Bernard, hope it will not have problems. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers: >>> Ramy Moustafa >>> If music be the food of love, play on... >>> >>> email and msn: >>> flutelo...@link.net >>> facebook: >>> www.facebook.com/moustafa.ramy >>> web site: >>> www.youtube.com/goldenear82 >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:25 AM >>> To: Talks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 >>> >>> If you are not having any current issues I would leave well enough alone >>> at >>> this time. if your e71 uses the same version of symian as the e72 and >>> n86 >>> then it is likely you will have the same issues. Remember you can't >>> roll >>> back and we have no idea when the problem will be corrected. >>> Bernard Hemmings >>> email: bern...@bhemmings.net >>> Skype: Bernard Hemmings >>> Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net >>> ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net >>> Home: 61-02-95841280 >>> Mobile: 61-0412177799 >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Ramy Moustafa" >>> To: "'Talks Mailing List'" >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:35 AM >>> Subject: [Talks] Nokia e71 >>> >>> Hi All: I will take nokia e71 tomorrow from a per
Re: [Talks] Nokia e71
Well in that case, then believe what you wwant. However you should look at the Nokia specs for both phones and base your wording on that and what you reviewer may say. Compare the specs of both phones yourself. Remember what reviewers say and what is are to different things. Example: Some reviewer say the E71 and E71x are the same phone just the E71X has the AT&T name on it. But reality is totally different. As far as huge differences will depend on what you call a huge difference. The main thing to keep in mind here is Talks will work on both phones accept for the Symbol issue on the E72 with the latest firmware for that phone. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Ramy Moustafa" To: "'Talks Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 Hi steven: But do u think that there are huge difference between the e71 and e72? From what I read there are no important difference between them except in the headphone jack, the internal memory adnso on. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love, play on... email and msn: flutelo...@link.net facebook: www.facebook.com/moustafa.ramy web site: www.youtube.com/goldenear82 -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:41 PM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 Both phones in this case are for the business market. This is true for all the E-Series phones. The E stands for Enterprize Edition which means businesses. So the E50, E51, E52, e55, E60, E61, E61I, E62, E63, E65, e66, E70, E71, E71X, E72, E75, E90 are all designed for the business user. The functionality between all the models differ in function as far as what tey have for the Symbian version that they run. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Bernard Hemmings" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 Well as I did say as far as I knew they were similar as I was not certain. A review I read a few weeks ago claimed they were almost the same but the e72 was aimed for the business market. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Stephen Giggar" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 I agree. The two phone are not even close. They are totally different. Produced on a Nokia N95 smart phone using a Symbian based screen reader. Signed by: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design -original message- Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 From: "Christopher Chaltain" Date: 23/11/2010 7:26 PM According to GSMArena.com the E71 and E72 are running different levels of the OS. E71: Symbian OS 9.2, Series 60 v3.1 UI E72: Symbian OS 9.3, Series 60 v3.2 UI So I'm not sure it's fair to speculate how a FW update on one phone will compare to a FW update on the other. Either way, my advice is that if it isn't broken, don't fix it. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:13 PM To: Talks Mailing List Sub ject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 As I said it probably will have problems. As far as I know the e71 and e72 are very similar. If it were me I would wait until the next talks release as the firmware update is nothing to write home about anyway. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Ramy Moustafa" To: "'Talks Mailing List'" Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 Thanks allot Dear Bernard, hope it will not have problems. Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love, play on... email and msn: flutelo...@link.net facebook: www.facebook.com/moustafa.ramy web site: www.youtube.com/goldenear82 -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Hemmings Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:25 AM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Nokia e71 If you are not having any current issues I would leave well enough alone at this time. if your e71 uses the same version of
Re: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors
Naw, I don't think it was a user of the competition, just rumor mongering... Gary Ray -Original Message- From: talks-boun...@talksusers.com [mailto:talks-boun...@talksusers.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Giggar Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:24 PM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors Talks is still being worked on. It hasn't been discontinued at all. So hoom ever you herd that from probably is a strong supporter of a conpetitor product who probably doesn't know anything at all. Yes Nuance had a death of one of the initial people who designed Talks! Howevber the programmer is still going and the product is still being worked on. After all, they put out a release in September or there abouts. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Gary H. Ray" To: "Talks List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors > Talks List: > > Well, down here in North Carolina, the rumor is out there that Talks is at > the end. When folks hear that I have it, they say "ain't Talks dead or > getting close?" When I ask them where they heard that, they all get very > vague. The only thing I can figure is that they heard that the original > Talks author died so they figure it is gonna die, more or less, with him. > > What I have heard on this list is that there is very little chance that it > will end. > > Now, has anyone heard anything else or does anyone else know anything > else? > > Gary Ray > ___ > Talks mailing list > Talks@talksusers.com > http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks > > Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: > eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ > and > Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] latest message from talknav regarding gps solutions.
Hi Alex, In fact, all those shortcut mentioned in some of the article |I have read, it's not by MS but rather in the OVI maps program itself, example, 2 to save, 4 repeat and so on while navigating. I have been using Talks with OVI maps with no problem. Only need to memorize few menus and others are ok to go with Talks. I have also asked for feed back from MS users whether they could read the main menu with no problem or still need to memorize it. Yes, Loadstone, an excellent free program. Yes, of course, data wise, you have to do it yourself or obtain it from their database. But when you talk about the history WayFinder, , is the same, due to not many people using in my country, also no proper maps, so, no complain for that matter, loadstone is the best for me. I have been using it and helping me greatly especially when I travel daily with no sighted help. Regards, KITT. - Original Message - From: "alex wallis" To: Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:36 AM Subject: [Talks] latest message from talknav regarding gps solutions. Hi. I just got a message from talknav regarding accessible gps solutions. I understand full well they are a business and should promote there own products, and are doing so by mentioning the fact they sell a range of code factory products. However, I do think there message is slightly misleading, in that it says "as you'll have been aware from the recent demise of Wayfinder Access, users of the Symbian operating system have recently lost their only accessible GPS option on their Nokia phones." only accessible option? what about loadstone? OK, I will admit loadstone isn't exactly a full gps solution as you have to provide it with data, never the less, it is an alternative free option for symbian, as both the options talknav are suggesting would require spending money either to by a copy of mobile speak to access ovi maps, or to buy a windows mobile device to use mobile geo. Whereas loadstone is free, and works with existing versions of talks, and once it is provided with data it can work as an accessible solution. ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors
You mean there's a new update release? I wish Talks new update to read the Help Files the way it did on the second symbian phone edition. - Original Message - From: "Stephen Giggar" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors Talks is still being worked on. It hasn't been discontinued at all. So hoom ever you herd that from probably is a strong supporter of a conpetitor product who probably doesn't know anything at all. Yes Nuance had a death of one of the initial people who designed Talks! Howevber the programmer is still going and the product is still being worked on. After all, they put out a release in September or there abouts. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Gary H. Ray" To: "Talks List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors Talks List: Well, down here in North Carolina, the rumor is out there that Talks is at the end. When folks hear that I have it, they say "ain't Talks dead or getting close?" When I ask them where they heard that, they all get very vague. The only thing I can figure is that they heard that the original Talks author died so they figure it is gonna die, more or less, with him. What I have heard on this list is that there is very little chance that it will end. Now, has anyone heard anything else or does anyone else know anything else? Gary Ray ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
Re: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors
it would be good but there are more urgent things they need to fix. But I like you miss the context help. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Estelita" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors You mean there's a new update release? I wish Talks new update to read the Help Files the way it did on the second symbian phone edition. - Original Message - From: "Stephen Giggar" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors Talks is still being worked on. It hasn't been discontinued at all. So hoom ever you herd that from probably is a strong supporter of a conpetitor product who probably doesn't know anything at all. Yes Nuance had a death of one of the initial people who designed Talks! Howevber the programmer is still going and the product is still being worked on. After all, they put out a release in September or there abouts. Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hardware eventually fails, software eventually works. No amount of bandwidth can fix poor design. - Original Message - From: "Gary H. Ray" To: "Talks List" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:53 PM Subject: [Talks] Rumors, Rumors, We Got Rumors Talks List: Well, down here in North Carolina, the rumor is out there that Talks is at the end. When folks hear that I have it, they say "ain't Talks dead or getting close?" When I ask them where they heard that, they all get very vague. The only thing I can figure is that they heard that the original Talks author died so they figure it is gonna die, more or less, with him. What I have heard on this list is that there is very little chance that it will end. Now, has anyone heard anything else or does anyone else know anything else? Gary Ray ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/ ___ Talks mailing list Talks@talksusers.com http://lists.talksusers.com/mailman/listinfo/talks Hosting of this list provided courtesy of: eHosting Limited: http://www.ehosting.com/ and Talknav Inc. http://www.talknav.net/
