Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

[Davidoskky via Tagging]

The new forum may be also more capable of handling large volume of 
posts - you can

easily mute threads and entire categories.


It's also possible to subscribe to only the first post in a category.

Thus, you may set to be notified whenever a new proposal is posted and 
only then choose if you're interested in such thread and subscribe to 
the replies.


If you're not interested in the proposal you have to do nothing: you 
receive the notification, read through whatever is proposed and close 
the web page.


Which is much better than filtering/muting threads on an email client 
for several reasons.



I do believe that if proposals were being announced on IRC all this 
time, we would now be extensively discussing about the major advantages 
of IRC over forums.


For reference: https://xkcd.com/1782/


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - highway=scramble

[Asa Hundert]

There is still considerable heat in the voting. Ballot casting time
will be extended to give three weeks of voting.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=scramble

Hungerburg

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[Tagging] species:language to loc_name:language

[Carlos Sánchez]

In a lot of cases, users are using local names in the values for species
and genus keys.
This is an error as genus and species only exist in latin. For local/vulgar
name users should use another key or be obtained using the wikidata
information.

I suggest changing species:language to l
oc_name:language as for
the same species there exists a huge variability of common names, not only
differing by language.

Wiki for species:wikidata: Key:species:wikidata - OpenStreetMap Wiki

Wiki for species: Key:species - OpenStreetMap Wiki

Use of the key species: Resultados de la búsqueda | OpenStreetMap Taginfo

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Re: [Tagging] species:language to loc_name:language

[Marc_marc]

Hello,

Le 21.11.22 à 17:22, Carlos Sánchez a écrit :
I suggest changing species:language to l 
oc_name:language as 
for the same species there exists a huge variability of common names, 
not only differing by language.


I disagree
loc_name is a local name, thus a name=*
but a common descriptive string isn't a name=* nor a loc_name=*

moreover I see no problem with a genus=* having one or more valid genus:xx

finally, many trees have more than one name in the local language, even 
in the same geographical area, so loc_name does not solve the problem 
better than genius:xx




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Re: [Tagging] wheel baths for disinfection

[IIVQ]

On 21/11/2022 08:15, Warin wrote:


On 21/11/22 12:54, Matija Nalis wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 08:58:29 +0800, Timeo Gut  
wrote:

Wheel baths for disinfection are used to prevent the spread of diseases
in agricultural areas. They're most often found at roads and tracks 
that

go through plantations or farms but sometimes also at administrative
boundaries along major highways.

I'm thinking that highway=wheel_bath might be better suited. Any
thoughts on this?

Perhaps.

There were related discussion recently about similar decontaminations 
used for pedestrains
(i.e. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made=footwear_decontamination) 
and other

cleaning facilities that might be accompanied by bigger tag:

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/what-key-should-be-tagged-for-these-amenities/5598/5 



so you may want to look there.



Some building sites (large) have wheel cleaning done on exit to stop 
the access roads getting dirty - nothing to do with disinfection.



Possibly these 2 should be combined into one main tag with a secondary 
tag for disinfection/cleaning/*???


+1. I have tagged one such facility at 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9915766339 as


access  	no 

amenity  
car_wash 
note  	Pour 
ameliorer le poussiere
truck_wash  	yes












I think that most such facilities (both for desinfection and washing 
cars/trucks) are on non-public-roads, and thus a highway tag (in the 
British sense of highway being a public road of whatever size, even 
footpaths can be highways) would not seem like the right tag for me.
Also, I have seen desinfection baths like this for bicycles (yes, I'm 
Dutch) and pedestrians. Seldom on public roads (except in the extreme 
heights of the footh- and mouth-disease crisis) and usually onto the 
entrance/exit of farms - and for pedestrians - on public swimming pools 
(to combat foot fungi).
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Re: [Tagging] species:language to loc_name:language

[Minh Nguyen]

Vào lúc 08:22 2022-11-21, Carlos Sánchez đã viết:
In a lot of cases, users are using local names in the values for species 
and genus keys.
This is an error as genus and species only exist in latin. For 
local/vulgar name users should use another key or be obtained using the 
wikidata information.


I suggest changing species:language to l 
oc_name:language as 
for the same species there exists a huge variability of common names, 
not only differing by language.


Wiki for species:wikidata: Key:species:wikidata - OpenStreetMap Wiki 

Wiki for species: Key:species - OpenStreetMap Wiki 

Use of the key species: Resultados de la búsqueda | OpenStreetMap 
Taginfo 


loc_name=* is for the local name of the feature itself, in other words, 
the local version of name=*. Some famous trees are known by proper 
names, but that's different than the (common) name of the species as a 
whole.


--
m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us



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Re: [Tagging] species:language to loc_name:language

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Not sure how change proposed in the second paragraph solves what
you mentioned in the first.

It also goes against established meaning of loc_name

loc_name:en is for English local name of a tree, not for English name of its 
species
(this is rarely used as local names are rarely in multiple languages, but
there is no benefit from breaking this definition and mostly
systematic tag variants for names)


21 lis 2022, 17:22 od erielk...@gmail.com:

> In a lot of cases, users are using local names in the values for species and 
> genus keys.
> This is an error as genus and species only exist in latin. For local/vulgar 
> name users should use another key or be obtained using the wikidata 
> information. 
>
> I suggest changing species:language to > l 
> > oc_name:language as for 
> the same species there exists a huge variability of common names, not only 
> differing by language.
>
> Wiki for species:wikidata: > Key:species:wikidata - OpenStreetMap Wiki 
> 
> Wiki for species: > Key:species - OpenStreetMap Wiki 
> 
> Use of the key species: > Resultados de la búsqueda | OpenStreetMap Taginfo 
> 
>

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