Re: [Tagging] Cattle bathroom

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 7. May 2017, at 04:21, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> As this would be on farmland, for farm activities ...
> 
> why not
> 
> farm=dip
> 
> dip=cattle, sheep, *



no, because commonly farm=* would be the tag for a subtype of farm, not 
something being found on a farm

I'd use man_made as key


cheers,
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Re: [Tagging] mandatory restriction with via way as members

[Michael Tsang]

On Thursday 04 May 2017 11:44:18 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2017-05-04 6:34 GMT+02:00 Michael Tsang :
> > I remapped those parts, but in order to prevent routing engines from
> > turning
> > illegally, I had to add a lot of restrictions onto the road, including the
> > use
> > of multi via-way where basically no currently available routing engines
> > support.
> 
> You have done it right by re-unifying the dual carriageway as there are no
> physical barriers. It is unfortunate that the routing engines currently
> don't support this kind of restriction (multiple via ways) which is fine
> according to the wiki. Did you try to reach out to the routing engine
> communities? Maybe they are not aware of the shortcoming and can implement
> it.

I have filed issues to various routing engine bug trackers regarding this.

Michael

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Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - hail and ride

[Michael Tsang]

On Thursday 04 May 2017 11:58:39 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

> Maybe the description can be more explicit regarding the stops. Are there
> any kind of stops or signs, or can you ask the bus to stop anywhere on the
> route on these segments? Around here there are a lot of "request stops" in
> the country side: you have to waive when the bus arrives or it won't stop
> (unless someone is getting off naturally), but there is a pole with a sign
> at these places (often not more infrastructure, i.e. no bench, waste basket
> or shelter). It would be nice if you wrote something about this so that
> people don't confuse these 2 systems (or is it the same?).

I have updated the description such that it requires passengers to be able to 
board/alight anywhere, not limited to stops.

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Re: [Tagging] Tagging change_lanes

[Tijmen Stam]

On 06-05-17 09:45, Paul Johnson wrote:

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Tijmen Stam mailto:mailingli...@iivq.net>> wrote:

Hello,

I'm hijacking this thread to ask about the change_lanes tag.
There seem to be three ways of mapping the change_lanes in
circulation, that can't all be correct.

1) I've always been using the JOSM Lanes and Road Attributes
mappaint style.
>From it's help page
>,
click change: -> then to proposal
>
There it lists as possible values:
yes|no|not_right|not_left|only_right|only_left
Where not_left is equivalent to only_right


I avoid the only_left and only_right ones myself.


2) on the lane_features wiki page:
>
reccommended tags change:lanes=yes|to_left|no|to_right


Does anything else consider this correct?


Should we then change this to the attributes from 1)?

Tijmen


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Re: [Tagging] Tagging change_lanes

[Tijmen Stam]

On 06-05-17 07:46, Marc Gemis wrote:

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Tijmen Stam  wrote:

The use of this tag is VERY low as of yet (only 67) according to taginfo,
but it's extremely useful.


Do you mean the use of change:lanes ? Or of some particular value ?
As far as I can see the tag is used over 60.000 times when you sum up
change:lanes, change:lanes:forward and change:lanes:backward (see
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/change:lanes:backward/change:lanes:forward/change:lanes)


My confusion.
The proposal is for the "change"-tag, which shouldn't be used without a 
lanes-suffix. But the taginfo on 
 refers to 
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=change which is used only 67 
times, not key=change:lanes.


Tijmen


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[Tagging] Night extinction of public lighting

[Paul Desgranges]

Hello,
I added this discussion 
 
on the lit  page, and 
comments are welcome.

   Thank you


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[Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

[Tijmen Stam]

How does one tag a railcar/railway wagon that is standing somewhere as a 
monument, which is NOT a locomotive?


See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dlocomotive> and 
 
or 

(Yes, that last one was left there as a monument, even though it's quite 
ill-maintained)


Tijmen



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Re: [Tagging] How to tag monumental railcars

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

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> On 7. May 2017, at 15:17, Tijmen Stam  wrote:
> 
> How does one tag a railcar/railway wagon that is standing somewhere as a 
> monument, which is NOT a locomotive?


could be historic=freight_car or railway_carriage or waggon etc.

If it is with a roof you could consider building as well.


For both tags I would assume that the thing doesn't move anymore.

Cheers,
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Re: [Tagging] Cattle bathroom

[santamariense]

Then, if amenity and farm is not for this type of thing, man_made
would be a good choice:

man_made=dip
dip=cattle, sheep, *

with useful combination:
building=roof
access=private, costumers

I had thought about amenity because here in Brazil seems there to be
communitary places for associated people to use plunge dips for their
cattle. After, another mapper remmembered me that man_made would be
aplicable for this.

@bryce2, Now I'm thinking to open a business like this you mentioned.
Good idea. (laughing) :-)

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[Tagging] Mapping Attenuation Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes

[Steve Brook]

Many new UK housing estates are required to be built with Attenuation Ponds
/ Sustainable Drainage schemes as part of their development. These are to
control rain water runoff during storms and consist of a pond surrounded by
an embankment with a controlled release structure to slow down drainage of
the water to the river system.  

 

The relevant features might be

. Low or normal water level of pond

. High water level or top of embankment

. Land use/vegetation between low/high water marks is water
tolerant/marsh plants

. Structures for water input and output - often brickwork and filter
screens round a pipe.

 

Has anyone any experience of mapping and tagging such a structure? 

Are there any examples of where this has been done?

 

Steve

 

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Re: [Tagging] Cattle bathroom

[Jo]

would

man_made=livestock_dip

be clearer?

and customers, not costumers :-)

Are there mobile versions too?

Maybe it's better to use:
catlle=yes
sheep=yes
horse=yes

like for veterinarians

I guess this page still needs translation to English:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tiere

The best way to proceed now, is to create a proposal on the wiki for it.

Polyglot

2017-05-07 17:18 GMT+02:00 santamariense :

> Then, if amenity and farm is not for this type of thing, man_made
> would be a good choice:
>
> man_made=dip
> dip=cattle, sheep, *
>
> with useful combination:
> building=roof
> access=private, costumers
>
> I had thought about amenity because here in Brazil seems there to be
> communitary places for associated people to use plunge dips for their
> cattle. After, another mapper remmembered me that man_made would be
> aplicable for this.
>
> @bryce2, Now I'm thinking to open a business like this you mentioned.
> Good idea. (laughing) :-)
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Re: [Tagging] Mapping Attenuation Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes

[Clifford Snow]

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Steve Brook  wrote:

> Many new UK housing estates are required to be built with Attenuation
> Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes as part of their development. These
> are to control rain water runoff during storms and consist of a pond
> surrounded by an embankment with a controlled release structure to slow
> down drainage of the water to the river system.
>
>
>
> The relevant features might be
>
> · Low or normal water level of pond
>
> · High water level or top of embankment
>
> · Land use/vegetation between low/high water marks is water
> tolerant/marsh plants
>
> · Structures for water input and output – often brickwork and
> filter screens round a pipe.
>
>
>
> Has anyone any experience of mapping and tagging such a structure?
>
> Are there any examples of where this has been done?
>

These are common where I live. (We get lots of rain from October to June) I
map them as landuse=basin, basin=* based on how they are designed. See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:basin for more info.

Clifford


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Re: [Tagging] Cattle bathroom

[santamariense]

@Jo (winfi...@gmail.com), I am not a native speaker of english (how U
have seen lol), then the word to define this without ambiguity I think
native speaker will choose the better word.

Are there mobile versions too? Answer: I do not know mobile versions
of this. It's always a big and deep structure (10~12 thousand litres
of water with pesticides). There are a variation of this that was with
sprinkler without imersion of the cattle inside.

Then the predefinition would be:

man_made=livestock_dip

livestock_dip=imersion, sprinkler (?? Do not make sense!!)

catlle=yes
sheep=yes
horse=yes

with optional combination of:

access = customers, private
building=roof


If I understood DE and had a better EN I would translate, but I am not
the correct guy to do this :-).

Where (the exact link to) can I propose this?

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Re: [Tagging] Mapping Attenuation Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes

[Warin]

On 08-May-17 03:10 AM, Clifford Snow wrote:


On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Steve Brook > wrote:


Many new UK housing estates are required to be built with
Attenuation Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes as part of their
development. These are to control rain water runoff during storms
and consist of a pond surrounded by an embankment with a
controlled release structure to slow down drainage of the water to
the river system.

The relevant features might be

·Low or normal water level of pond

·High water level or top of embankment

·Land use/vegetation between low/high water marks is water
tolerant/marsh plants

·Structures for water input and output – often brickwork and
filter screens round a pipe.

Has anyone any experience of mapping and tagging such a structure?

Are there any examples of where this has been done?


These are common where I live. (We get lots of rain from October to 
June) I map them as landuse=basin, basin=* based on how they are 
designed. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:basin for more 
info.





I have done 2 as detention ponds ..

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/282846991


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