Re: [Tagging] What to map a site of historical significants...

2011-04-28 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/28 David Murn :
> That doesnt detract from the original question, of what to map a site of
> historic significance.


historic=event and event=?
or historic:event=yes/ ?

the ever useful, never descriptive tourism=attraction could also be used.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] branch=* tag to specify the particular branch of a chain of stores/amenities

2011-04-28 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/28 David Murn :
> On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 07:34 +0800, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>> According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brand
>>
>>     "The brand=* is a larger entity that a place advertises itself as part 
>> of"
>>
>> Which means that you put "Burger King" or "Barclay's" or "McDonald's"
>> into the brand tag.
>
> I thought in this case, we use operator=* ?


no, operator would be the person/company/organisation that operates a
feature. In the case of Burger King or Esso ... this would be the
individual operator of the franchise or petrol station.

> >From wiki.. The operator tag is used to name a company, corporation,
> person or any other entity who is in charge of the operation of a
> certain map object.


indeed.


> I think the branch/location could simply be added to the name tag.


could (as always), but this would be worse then declaring it explicitly.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] What to map a site of historical significants...

2011-04-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 April 2011 17:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
> historic=event and event=?
> or historic:event=yes/ ?

I like this suggestion. I noticed in JOSM there is a
historic=battlefield, but this and other similar events, like David's
suggestion about the great train robbery, would be good to be grouped
together so they render even if they aren't more specifically
rendered.

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Re: [Tagging] What to map a site of historical significants...

2011-04-28 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/4/28 Richard Welty 

> On 4/27/11 8:47 PM, John Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> If people can tag trees, surely things of historical significants
>> deserve to be allowed in OSM as well.
>>
> identifiable, physical objects that exist today, sure.
>
> the phase maps i want to do for the battle of antietam (September 1862),
> not so much.
>

I guess you're absolutely right, but here we aren't talking about battle
phase maps. For example, I've mapped memorial sites related to battles of
the Italian Risorgimento, but not the place where the battles themselves
took place. Also, I've mapped many plates dedicated to kings, soldiers and
patriots, because they're things that are permanently on the ground.

On the other hand it would be great to make battle phase maps, but I doubt
OSM is useful for this. If I think of the Battle of Palestro (May 31th,
1859), I can name at least a couple of major roads that didn't exist at the
time. Also, cities and towns were much smaller then; even the course of the
nearby river has quite changed (and it would be important in the battle, as
some French and Savoy troops crossed the river and almost surrounded the
Austrian army, a crucial event in the battle). You could use OSM's backend
as a data manager, but you would have to re-create the map almost from
scratch.


> richard


Regards,

Simone
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Re: [Tagging] What to map a site of historical significants...

2011-04-28 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/28 Simone Saviolo :
> phase maps. For example, I've mapped memorial sites related to battles of
> the Italian Risorgimento, but not the place where the battles themselves
> took place. Also, I've mapped many plates dedicated to kings, soldiers and
> patriots, because they're things that are permanently on the ground.


Yes, it would be nice to connect these plates to the actual places, if
they are not identical. This is something that could be done in OSM
like I would like to connect the original place where an obelisk once
was set up with the place it now is. This could be done with
relations.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] branch=* tag to specify the particular branch of a chain of stores/amenities

2011-04-28 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Nathan Edgars II  wrote:
> On 4/27/2011 7:32 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
>>
>> On 04/27/2011 06:17 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:

 I think the standard is brand=*.
>>>
>>> yes, this is also used for gas stations.
>>
>> That’s a different thing, I think.
>>
>> branch=* is presumably an identifier for a specific instance of a chain,
>> where a ref is not appropriate.
>
> Yes, I forgot to look at the links. Is there a reason ref isn't appropriate?
> I've used ref for store numbers; would this be used when there's both a
> number and a name?

Well, the 7-Eleven branches here have store numbers which are often
found on a sticker near the door. This would be an exact fit for the
ref=* tag. But each store has a branch name apart from the store
number, and these names are what I would put in the branch=* tag.

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