[Tagging] playground tag proposal
Hi all, re http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Playground_Equipment I'd like to get this proposal finalized fairly soon as it has been open for a month now. There has been a lot of useful discussion already which I have taken on board and put into the main page. Could I ask you all to take one more look at it; if there are any points that would stop you voting for it in its current form them please suggest improvements on the discussion page or on the mailing list. I'd like to get voting underway this weekend if possible, depending of course on what issues are raised. Many thanks for your help with this so far! Antony. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal
On 20 April 2010 18:18, antony.king wrote: > I'd like to get voting underway this weekend if possible, depending of > course on what issues are raised. Have you used this tagging scheme much to date? Did you notice any issues? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal
On 20 April 2010 09:27, John Smith wrote: > On 20 April 2010 18:18, antony.king wrote: >> I'd like to get voting underway this weekend if possible, depending of >> course on what issues are raised. > > Have you used this tagging scheme much to date? > > Did you notice any issues? I've been using it on my local playgrounds in kemsley, and minophos has been using it on some in the Leighton Buzzard area and so far, the only issue we've met is that we've had to add a few more equipment types. I've also written an export tool so that you can view the playgrounds on a UK map with some summary data; it's a bit ropey at the moment (running on a Lex Light in my son's room!) but if you look here: http://ant.homelinux.net/maps with username map, password mrmappy you'll see a map of them; the blue ones are done according to the new schema. If you don't see the icons, try again later; I'm hacking at it right now. I've also got mapnik somewhere nearby configured to draw the playgrounds, which looks cool but I can't sensibly run it on my home server. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, antony.king wrote: > On 20 April 2010 09:27, John Smith wrote: > > On 20 April 2010 18:18, antony.king wrote: > >> I'd like to get voting underway this weekend if possible, depending of > >> course on what issues are raised. > > > > Have you used this tagging scheme much to date? > > > > Did you notice any issues? > > I've been using it on my local playgrounds in kemsley, and minophos > has been using it on some in the Leighton Buzzard area and so far, the > only issue we've met is that we've had to add a few more equipment > types. I've also written an export tool so that you can view the > playgrounds on a UK map with some summary data; it's a bit ropey at > the moment (running on a Lex Light in my son's room!) but if you look > here: > > http://ant.homelinux.net/maps > > with username map, password mrmappy > > you'll see a map of them; the blue ones are done according to the new > schema. If you don't see the icons, try again later; I'm hacking at it > right now. > too difficult to find the bit we should zoom into Anthony, so how about a screenshot? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal
>> http://ant.homelinux.net/maps >> >> with username map, password mrmappy >> > too difficult to find the bit we should zoom into Anthony, so how about a > screenshot? It's in the bottom right corner, where the differently coloured icons are. Have a look here for screen shots: Overview of kent showing various playgrounds with one having been clicked on: http://ant.homelinux.net/maps/playgrounds.jpeg Detail of one particular playground rendered with mapnik on my server: http://ant.homelinux.net/maps/playgrounds2.jpeg Hope that helps. There's also a facebook group for chatting about accessible playgrounds in general - there's a link to it on the top of http://ant.homelinux.net/maps . Antony. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, antony.king wrote: > Hi all, > > re > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Playground_Equipment > > I'd like to get this proposal finalized fairly soon as it has been > open for a month now. There has been a lot of useful discussion > already which I have taken on board and put into the main page. > > Could I ask you all to take one more look at it; if there are any > points that would stop you voting for it in its current form them > please suggest improvements on the discussion page or on the mailing > list. > > I'd like to get voting underway this weekend if possible, depending of > course on what issues are raised. > > Many thanks for your help with this so far! > > Antony. > the only one in my area has a liberty swing which takes an entire wheelchair and user http://www.devinelibertyswing.com/ so it needs adding to the list if you need a CC photo I'll have to arrange to photograph it ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Entrances..
Wouldn't it be great if railway=subway_entrance was rendering, and if we had a generic scheme to tag entrances for different stuff. I've used building=entrance, but I need to tag railway=station_entrance, train=door, highway=bus_station_entrance etc. etc. How do I solve this in a better way? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dsubway_entrance http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building=entrance http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Stop_Area When rendering railway=subway_entrance do you think one should disable to rendering of railway=station, and in that case how do you know which subway station to disable. About 1/3 of subway_entrances have names, even fewer have relations, I believe using names has advantages. -- /emj ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Entrances..
2010/4/20 Erik Johansson : > Wouldn't it be great if railway=subway_entrance was rendering +1 currently I'm mapping them with barrier=wall (U-form) and highway=steps in the middle (and on the end subway_entrance) but it would be nice to have them show up. > , and if > we had a generic scheme to tag entrances for different stuff. I've > used building=entrance, but I need to tag railway=station_entrance, > train=door, highway=bus_station_entrance etc. etc. How do I solve > this in a better way? you could use barrier=entrace, but this is according to my reading of the wiki a hole in the barrier without door or gate, that's why I usually use barrier=gate for general entrances (which do have a door/gate). > When rendering railway=subway_entrance do you think one should disable > to rendering of railway=station -1, depends on the zoom-level >, and in that case how do you know > which subway station to disable. name? proximity? That would get some false positives (double-stations) > About 1/3 of subway_entrances have > names, even fewer have relations, I believe using names has > advantages. well, but name is for the name of the feature, so it could well happen that a subway entrance has it's own name that is not the one of the station but the one of the street it is leading to. I'd opt for the relation. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal (antony.king)
Excellent work. For most of the recorded playgrounds in my area I have recorded the information of what equipment exists in order to save a re-visit. Hopefully with this that data will actually be worthwhile. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] playground tag proposal (antony.king)
Cool - if you tag up those playgrounds do let me know as I could do with some more test cases for my renderer etc. Also if you hit any snags with the schema it would be good to get them ironed out sooner rather than later. Thanks for the encouragement! Antony. On 20 April 2010 20:33, Jonathan Le Masurier wrote: > Excellent work. For most of the recorded playgrounds in my area I have > recorded the information of what equipment exists in order to save a > re-visit. Hopefully with this that data will actually be worthwhile. > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [OSM-newbies] motorway _link and _junction tagging
At 2010-04-20 13:34, Phil! Gold wrote: >I'm looking to see how other people approach tagging name= and ref= for >motorway_links and motorway_junctions. Yet another subject I've been wanting to write/ask about. Sorry if I should have put this in the wiki instead of the list, but I figured we can hash it out here before I move it there. I realize it's long. :) It might also be better discussed in tagging and then noted back in newbies once it gets agreed on? I've therefore Ccd tagging. Here's the approach I've been using in the LA area. It's gone through a few iterations, and so may not be completely consistent. Examples: Motorway/street interchange: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=34.13614&lon=-117.53647&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF and motorway/motorway interchange: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=34.13521&lon=-117.49705&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF The information in the tags, though appearing to be free-form, is actually formulaic (when I don't make mistakes :) ). Ideally, I'd like to create separate tags for the components, or use some other structured solution, but I started doing it as a newbie, and just wanted to get on with processing my surveys without going 12 rounds with the mailing list on the correct structure. All the info is present, and I'm ready to massage it into whatever schema is agreed upon. Here's what I've been doing. * Onramps: JOSM preset [0]: Tags: - name: " onramp" e.g. "CA-210 West onramp" [1]. - ref: "from [ ]" e.g. "from Rosemead Blvd North". is added only when the ramp is accessible from only one direction of travel on the street where the ramp originates [2]. When a ramp starts on a side street, this may instead look like "from Francisquito Ave via Garvey Ave", where the ramp is known as the Francisquito Ave ramp. * Exit node (where offramp joins motorway): JOSM preset: Tags: - name: "[ ][ ]" e.g. "Azusa Ave North - San Gabriel Canyon". The name as official/signed. is present if it is only possible to go in that direction when reaching the target street. - ref: "Exit " e.g. "Exit 23A". The official/signed exit number. Note that various states in the US are at different stages of the signage installation - it may be necessary to get them from the state DOT's docs (that's the "CDOT" in my source tags). - optional items come from the California DOT. I was originally typing them in as I processed each exit, but stopped doing this in favor of doing an import when I get around to it. * Exit ramp: JOSM preset: Tags: - name: " offramp" e.g. "Azusa Ave North - San Gabriel Canyon offramp". Take the name tag's value from the related Exit node and add " offramp". - ref: " from " e.g. "Exit 23A from I-10 East" * Final thoughts: With motorway interchanges (with other motorways), I treat the connectors as onramps - the role being the originating motorway and the role being the destination motorway. Sometimes, my connector and onramp names look like " / onramp" e.g. "CA-210 East / Redlands onramp". is the signed (actually official in CA) destination of the motorway, or a major city along the way [3]. When a link is shared by traffic both exiting and entering the motorway, I use a semi-colon-separated list of values. Example: name="I-710 South - Long Beach onramp;I-405 North - Santa Monica onramp" ref="Exit 32B from I-405 North;Exit 4 from I-710 North" for this way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26968059 The same applies to the situation where one exit ramp for both destination directions leaves the originating motorway and then splits into separate links (see freeway interchange example at top). I see, in that example, I put both directions in the name key instead of using the semi-colon approach - something I'll have to deal with manually. Admittedly, much of what is tagged to the ramps can be derived from the related nodes at each end with some work. There just didn't seem to be anyone doing that work, so I wanted to be able to have them make sense when rendered/spoken now, particularly when used by routing. * Notes: [0] About presets: - I also add '' to my presets, based on the wiki saying this tag has been deprecated, and can be removed when seen. - For the onramp/offramp way presets, I also add '' because there was some conflicting info in the wiki as to whether this was implied for *_link ways. - All ta
