Re: NIST-676a

2023-11-14 Thread Reinhard Kleeberg

Hi Jim,
great news, would be good to have a corundum what can be modelled with  
an easier profile shape model.

Best regards

Reinhard

Zitat von "Cline, James P. Dr. (Fed)" :


Hi all,

SRM 676a consisted of Baikowski CR1.  This material is of a  
non-ideal crystallite size distribution: quite broad with tales to  
large crystallites.  SRM 676b was custom made for us by Baikowski  
with a more uniform crystallite size distribution in the 200 nm  
region.  We are working on the certification, rather complex, see:  
doi:10.1107/S0108767311014565 .  It seems that modern beamlines  
don't favor the large specimen size needed for our experiments.  We  
have good data from one source, we are looking for some from another  
as we like to see results from more one machine.


Jim


James P. Cline
Materials Measurement Science Division
National Institute of Standards and Technology
100 Bureau Dr. stop 8370 [ B113 / Bldg 217 ]
Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8523USA
james.cl...@nist.gov
https://www.nist.gov/people/james-p-cline
(301) 975 5793

-Original Message-
From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr  On  
Behalf Of Reinhard Kleeberg

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 1:51 AM
To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
Subject: Re: NIST-676a

We are using Baikowski CR1
https://www.baikowski.com/en/serie/cr/
Not certified but maybe identical with SRM676a. Scale factors and  
cell parameters found to be within the errors. Profile shape shows  
similar features (also not an ideal material).

Best regards
Reinhard


Zitat von Matthew Rowles :


Hi Matej

You can try IMS135 - high purity alumina.

https://imst/
andards.com.au%2Fproducts%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjames.cline%40nist.gov%7C2
d945a33db074232a69808dbe414ca9a%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1
%7C0%7C638354550207433666%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi
LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=r
MK%2BzDuAMv2q7U6fCpu38mzuqIrTdCiQfNDPSmB%2BQZk%3D&reserved=0

It was certified against some SRM676a we already had in the lab.


Matthew




On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 22:42, Matej Dolenec  wrote:


Dear all,

I am trying to buy NIST-676a but unfortunately unsuccessful ... I was
trying to find it on NIST, ALDRICH and other sites but the standard
is out of stock. Does anybody has any information if this standard
will be available soon and where? If not, which standard should I use
instead of NIST-676a? I was using this standard for amorphous  
phase identification.


Regrads, Matej

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Re: NIST-676a

2023-11-14 Thread Daniel Chateigner 20210513

and not textured ?

Le 14/11/2023 à 12:56, Reinhard Kleeberg a écrit :

Hi Jim,
great news, would be good to have a corundum what can be modelled with 
an easier profile shape model.

Best regards

Reinhard

Zitat von "Cline, James P. Dr. (Fed)" :


Hi all,

SRM 676a consisted of Baikowski CR1.  This material is of a non-ideal 
crystallite size distribution: quite broad with tales to large 
crystallites.  SRM 676b was custom made for us by Baikowski with a 
more uniform crystallite size distribution in the 200 nm region.  We 
are working on the certification, rather complex, see: 
doi:10.1107/S0108767311014565 .  It seems that modern beamlines don't 
favor the large specimen size needed for our experiments.  We have 
good data from one source, we are looking for some from another as we 
like to see results from more one machine.


Jim


James P. Cline
Materials Measurement Science Division
National Institute of Standards and Technology
100 Bureau Dr. stop 8370 [ B113 / Bldg 217 ]
Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8523    USA
james.cl...@nist.gov
https://www.nist.gov/people/james-p-cline 


(301) 975 5793

-Original Message-
From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr  On Behalf 
Of Reinhard Kleeberg

Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 1:51 AM
To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
Subject: Re: NIST-676a

We are using Baikowski CR1
https://www.baikowski.com/en/serie/cr/ 

Not certified but maybe identical with SRM676a. Scale factors and 
cell parameters found to be within the errors. Profile shape shows 
similar features (also not an ideal material).

Best regards
Reinhard


Zitat von Matthew Rowles :


Hi Matej

You can try IMS135 - high purity alumina.

https://imst/
andards.com.au%2Fproducts%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjames.cline%40nist.gov%7C2
d945a33db074232a69808dbe414ca9a%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1
%7C0%7C638354550207433666%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi
LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=r
MK%2BzDuAMv2q7U6fCpu38mzuqIrTdCiQfNDPSmB%2BQZk%3D&reserved=0

It was certified against some SRM676a we already had in the lab.


Matthew




On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 22:42, Matej Dolenec  wrote:


Dear all,

I am trying to buy NIST-676a but unfortunately unsuccessful ... I was
trying to find it on NIST, ALDRICH and other sites but the standard
is out of stock. Does anybody has any information if this standard
will be available soon and where? If not, which standard should I use
instead of NIST-676a? I was using this standard for amorphous phase 
identification.


Regrads, Matej

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Re:Re: NIST-676a

2023-11-14 Thread iangie
Dear Prof. Chateigner,


I might need to update my knowledge.
Do we need to consider texture effect for powder samples?


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At 2023-11-14 19:58:05, "Daniel Chateigner 20210513" 
 wrote:
>and not textured ?
>
>Le 14/11/2023 à 12:56, Reinhard Kleeberg a écrit :
>> Hi Jim,
>> great news, would be good to have a corundum what can be modelled with 
>> an easier profile shape model.
>> Best regards
>>
>> Reinhard
>>
>> Zitat von "Cline, James P. Dr. (Fed)" :
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> SRM 676a consisted of Baikowski CR1.  This material is of a non-ideal 
>>> crystallite size distribution: quite broad with tales to large 
>>> crystallites.  SRM 676b was custom made for us by Baikowski with a 
>>> more uniform crystallite size distribution in the 200 nm region.  We 
>>> are working on the certification, rather complex, see: 
>>> doi:10.1107/S0108767311014565 .  It seems that modern beamlines don't 
>>> favor the large specimen size needed for our experiments.  We have 
>>> good data from one source, we are looking for some from another as we 
>>> like to see results from more one machine.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> James P. Cline
>>> Materials Measurement Science Division
>>> National Institute of Standards and Technology
>>> 100 Bureau Dr. stop 8370 [ B113 / Bldg 217 ]
>>> Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8523USA
>>> james.cl...@nist.gov
>>> https://www.nist.gov/people/james-p-cline 
>>>
>>> (301) 975 5793
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr  On Behalf 
>>> Of Reinhard Kleeberg
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 1:51 AM
>>> To: rietveld_l@ill.fr
>>> Subject: Re: NIST-676a
>>>
>>> We are using Baikowski CR1
>>> https://www.baikowski.com/en/serie/cr/ 
>>>
>>> Not certified but maybe identical with SRM676a. Scale factors and 
>>> cell parameters found to be within the errors. Profile shape shows 
>>> similar features (also not an ideal material).
>>> Best regards
>>> Reinhard
>>>
>>>
>>> Zitat von Matthew Rowles :
>>>
 Hi Matej

 You can try IMS135 - high purity alumina.

 https://imst/
 andards.com.au%2Fproducts%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cjames.cline%40nist.gov%7C2
 d945a33db074232a69808dbe414ca9a%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1
 %7C0%7C638354550207433666%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAi
 LCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=r
 MK%2BzDuAMv2q7U6fCpu38mzuqIrTdCiQfNDPSmB%2BQZk%3D&reserved=0

 It was certified against some SRM676a we already had in the lab.


 Matthew




 On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 22:42, Matej Dolenec  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am trying to buy NIST-676a but unfortunately unsuccessful ... I was
> trying to find it on NIST, ALDRICH and other sites but the standard
> is out of stock. Does anybody has any information if this standard
> will be available soon and where? If not, which standard should I use
> instead of NIST-676a? I was using this standard for amorphous phase 
> identification.
>
> Regrads, Matej
>
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> 54655c61dec%7C1%7C0%7C638354550207433666%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJW
> IjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000
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> ++
>
>
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