Re: C4A3S-structure (calcium aluminate sulfate Ca4Al6O16S)

1999-02-16 Thread Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble

>Below is the only ICSD structural data available for C4A3S. The 
>reference is :Saalfeld H, Depmeier W
>Kristall und Technik,  Vol 7, No. 229 

Actually there are a couple more in ICSD (http://barns.ill.fr/dif/icsd/)
including a more recent one done with Rietveld refinement :-)

Saalfeld,H. Depmeier,W. (1972) Krist.Tech. 7 229-233 
Silicon-Free Compounds with Sodalite Structure 

Kondo,R. (1965) Journal of the Ceramic Association of Japan 73 1-8 
The Synthesis and Crystallography of a Group of New Compounds Belonging to the
Hauyne Type Structure 

Calos,NJ. Kennard,CHL. Whittaker,AK. Davis,RL. (1995) J.Solid State Chem. 119 1-7 
Structure of calcium aluminate sulfate Ca4 Al6 O16 S


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Re: C4A3S-structure

1999-02-16 Thread Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble

>C4A3S is the 'precursor' for
>ettringite formation and is added to Portland cement to produce shrink-
>compensated, fast-setting concrete. 

Now that I have drawn the structure it looks interesting :-)  6-member 
rings of corner connected AlO4 tetrahedra with Ca in the center, and the
rings connected to form large cavities containing the sulphate. Wulf Depmeier
et al. had it cubic, while the recent x-ray Rietveld work of Colin Kennard 
et al has it othorhombic pseudo-cubic.  

It would perhaps be interesting to do some neutron work on this material
to see if there is no hydration in all those cavities, n'est pas Colin ?

(Colin is actually here at ILL doing a neutron experiment at the moment :-)

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Re: C4A3S-structure

1999-02-16 Thread Daniel M. Toebbens


On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble wrote:

> >C4A3S is the 'precursor' for
> >ettringite formation and is added to Portland cement to produce shrink-
> >compensated, fast-setting concrete. 
> 
> Now that I have drawn the structure it looks interesting :-)  6-member 
> rings of corner connected AlO4 tetrahedra with Ca in the center, and the
> rings connected to form large cavities containing the sulphate. Wulf Depmeier
> et al. had it cubic, while the recent x-ray Rietveld work of Colin Kennard 
> et al has it othorhombic pseudo-cubic.  
> 
Y. G. Wang et al. did an electron diffraction study on it which revealed
superstructure reflections (J. Mater. Sci. Let. 9 (1990) 997).

Is the article of Kennard published already? I could not find it with
UnCover.
 

> It would perhaps be interesting to do some neutron work on this material
> to see if there is no hydration in all those cavities, n'est pas Colin ?
> 
Maybe in the material found in cement, but most of the material for
studies is prepared from CaO and Al2O3 without any water or hydroxides
involved in the process.


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Re: C4A3S-structure

1999-02-16 Thread Alan Hewat, ILL Grenoble

>Is the article of Kennard published already? I could not find it with UnCover.

Calos,NJ. Kennard,CHL. Whittaker,AK. Davis,RL. (1995) J.Solid State Chem. 119 1-7 
Structure of calcium aluminate sulfate Ca4 Al6 O16 S

It is on ICSD - I have just installed the 98/2 WWW version which contains 49095 
entries (and now comes on a pretty CD instead of a DAT tape :-)

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THMA13 program

1999-02-16 Thread Daniel M. Toebbens

I am searching for the THMA13 program or another program for the
correction of interatomic bond length due to thermal movement. Is
something like that available somewhere? I could not find it.

Daniel Toebbens


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Re: THMA13 program

1999-02-16 Thread L. Cranswick

> 
> I am searching for the THMA13 program or another program for the
> correction of interatomic bond length due to thermal movement. Is
> something like that available somewhere? I could not find it.
> 
> Daniel Toebbens
> 
> 
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THMA14c for Windows is available at Louis Farrugia's
Web site.  A previous version (THMA11) is incorporated 
into Louis's WinGX Single Crystal suite.
  http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~louis/thma14/
  http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/web-mirrors/farrugia/~louis/thma14/
  http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~louis/wingx/
  http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/web-mirrors/farrugia/~louis/wingx/
 
Ton Spek's Platon for UNIX software also has Thermal Motion
analysis.
  http://www.cryst.chem.uu.nl/platon/
  http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/web-mirrors/platon-spek/platon/
  ftp://xraysoft.chem.ruu.nl/pub/
  http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/ccp14/ftp-mirror/platon-spek/pub/

A Windows version of Platon is again located at Louis
Farrugia's site.
  http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~louis/platon97/
  http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/ccp/web-mirrors/farrugia/~louis/platon97/
  
Platon and WinGX can read in Shelx files and some other
file formats.

Lachlan.




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RCPT: Re: C4A3S-structure

1999-02-16 Thread OSCAR AU-ALVAREZ

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Re: Help: getting calculated reflection intensities out of GSAS

1999-02-16 Thread Jean-Pierre Weber

>Sorry to bug people here again, but when I use REFLIST, I only get a list
>of peak positions and Fcsq/FcTsq. Are these the calculated peak
>intensities?
>
>Thank very much and in advance,
>
>Tao
>2/5/99


Did you get an answer from the GSAS community ? I noticed the same, the
FOBS are missing from REFLIST.

Hans-Peter



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Re: Help: getting calculated reflection intensities out of GSAS

1999-02-16 Thread Jim Cline

At 09:19 PM 2/16/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>Sorry to bug people here again, but when I use REFLIST, I only get a list
>>of peak positions and Fcsq/FcTsq. Are these the calculated peak
>>intensities?
>>
>>Thank very much and in advance,
>>
>>Tao
>>2/5/99
>
>
>Did you get an answer from the GSAS community ? I noticed the same, the
>FOBS are missing from REFLIST.
>

You have to turn the FOBS flag in "least squares controls".

Jim

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Re: Help: getting calculated reflection intensities out of GSAS

1999-02-16 Thread Patrik Dahlke

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Jean-Pierre Weber wrote:

> >Sorry to bug people here again, but when I use REFLIST, I only get a list
> >of peak positions and Fcsq/FcTsq. Are these the calculated peak
> >intensities?

Yes.

> >Thank very much and in advance,
> >
> >Tao
> >2/5/99
> 
> 
> Did you get an answer from the GSAS community ? I noticed the same, the
> FOBS are missing from REFLIST.
> 
> Hans-Peter

If you set the Fobs extraction flag on (l l e in expedt), you get the Fobs
as well. The cycles take a little longer (I think) so only switch it on
when needed - like for Fobs / deltaF maps etc. 

Patrik


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