Re: [RE-wrenches] metering an outback system
When metering for production here in Washington State, we use both sides in a 12s 120volt meterbase with fifth jaw. top right inverter ac in, bottom right ac from grid. top left from battery back up, bottom left from inverter ac in, fifth jaw neutral. this set up allows grid tied selling and battery saved energy selling to be metered while subtracting energy used to charge batteries and subtracting any power needed to run the inverter. hope this helps. contact me off list if you need the diagram (in office) -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] metering an outback system
Yes, you are correct. The Solar pro diagram and article is great for understanding each mode the meter can be in. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Drake Chamberlin < drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > The one meter hook up always seems confusing to me. I'm still confused. > Do we have the AC IN at both the bottom left and top right? To me it seems > that the AC OUT from the inverter would go to the upper left and the > protected loads panel would be fed from the bottom left. > > I've never used this method, but would like to use it instead of the two > meter method. > > Thanks, > > Drake > > > At 12:19 AM 8/10/2010, you wrote: > > When metering for production here in Washington State, we use both sides in > a 12s 120volt meterbase with fifth jaw. * top right inverter ac in*, > bottom right ac from grid. top left from battery back up, *bottom left > from inverter ac in*, fifth jaw neutral. > > this set up allows grid tied selling and battery saved energy selling to be > metered while subtracting energy used to charge batteries and subtracting > any power needed to run the inverter. > > hope this helps. > > contact me off list if you need the diagram (in office) > > > > -- > Alex Cozine > NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer > Brothers Electric & Solar > brotherselectricsolar.com > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > Drake Chamberlin > Athens Electric > OH License 44810 > CO License 3773 > NABCEP TM Certified PV Installer > Office - 740-448-7328 > Mobile - 740-856-9648 > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] sale to wrenches
A friend is selling some equipment. If anyone is interested please email or call our office. 1.Dakar Kombi sine wave Inverter/Charger combination made by Mastervolt 253-474-1968 -- Forwarded message -- From: Dave Cozine Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:15 AM Subject: wrenches for sale To: acdc.coz...@gmail.com Thank you, *Dave Cozine **www.brotherselectricsolar.com * > Hello Dave, > > It was good to see you after I was gone to Africa four years ago. > > The big system for our of the grid solar set up was never shipped to > Africa. > > I have the following brand new Items; > > 1) Dakar Kombi sine wave Inverter/Charger combination made by > Mastervolt, now known as Victron Energy in the Netherlands (UE). > > Power rating; 3000W - 6000W / 24 VDC > > Charge current; 100A 3-stage >> with automatic transfer switch. > > I got this at a good price from an ac/dc company that installed 45 of > those units for the West coast Coast Guard. Also two units for Safe Boats in Port Orchard to be shipped to Chili. > > 2) Alternator from Detroit Diesel Engine Co. > > Rated; 220 Amps and 28 VDC > > 3) 125 - 200 - 300 - 400 Amp fuses and shunts. > > 4) Max charge 24-v multistage regulator > > 5) 3/0 AGW wire with numerous lugs > > I am prepared to let this all go for $ 1500.00 which is 1/4 of mrsp. > > Greetings and till soon, > > Jan Felix -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Heavy Duty Modules?
ditto doug, look into this module. HEAVY duty. On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Bill Hoffer wrote: > Doug > > Silicon Energy in Washington makes a bomb proof module that is spendy, but > would hold up at $4.75/watt (comes with mounting frame). There is no frame > on the lower and upper edge which helps snow slide off and they are > laminated with thick Sentry glass by Dupont which is typically used for > hurrican and bullet proof glass. We tested one with 3600 lbs of sand bags > on it and 6 guys jumping up and down on it before we finally broke it. They > have an interesting frame that contains the wiring and is accessible from > the front. I also agree that a steeper angle and somewhere for the snow to > pile up is essential. > > www.silicon-energy.com or call Mike Farrell mfarr...@silicon-energy.com > supp...@silicon-energy.com > (360)539-1851 cell (425) 319-2780 > > Bill > Bill Hoffer PE > NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ > Sunergy Engineering Services PLLC > 2504 Columbia Ave NW > East Wenatchee WA 98802-3941 > suneng...@gmail.com (509)470-7762 > Cell(509)679-6165 > > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Heavy Duty Modules?
sorry, ditto bill On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Alex Cozine wrote: > ditto doug, > > look into this module. HEAVY duty. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Bill Hoffer wrote: > >> Doug >> >> Silicon Energy in Washington makes a bomb proof module that is spendy, but >> would hold up at $4.75/watt (comes with mounting frame). There is no frame >> on the lower and upper edge which helps snow slide off and they are >> laminated with thick Sentry glass by Dupont which is typically used for >> hurrican and bullet proof glass. We tested one with 3600 lbs of sand bags >> on it and 6 guys jumping up and down on it before we finally broke it. They >> have an interesting frame that contains the wiring and is accessible from >> the front. I also agree that a steeper angle and somewhere for the snow to >> pile up is essential. >> >> www.silicon-energy.com or call Mike Farrell >> mfarr...@silicon-energy.comsupp...@silicon-energy.com >> (360)539-1851 cell (425) 319-2780 >> >> Bill >> Bill Hoffer PE >> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ >> Sunergy Engineering Services PLLC >> 2504 Columbia Ave NW >> East Wenatchee WA 98802-3941 >> suneng...@gmail.com (509)470-7762 >> Cell(509)679-6165 >> >> >> ___ >> List sponsored by Home Power magazine >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Options & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> >> > > > -- > Alex Cozine > > NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ > > Brothers Electric & Solar > brotherselectricsolar.com > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] shatterproof PV
SIlicon energy modules has glass front and back. VERY Durable. http://www.silicon-energy.com/pdf/SiE-Cascade-Spec-Sheet-V8.2-Rev070111.pdf almost bullet proof. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Ray Walters wrote: > My mistake, I just found a spec sheet on the Unisolar 64, and it > specifically advertises "No glass" and "unbreakable". I worked on systems > with them before, but never sold them, so I assumed the textured top surface > was tempered glass all these years. > Many pardons, > > Ray > > > On 7/27/2011 9:21 PM, Carl Emerson wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > ** ** > > The discontinued Unisolar US64 did *not* have any glass on the face. > > ** ** > > A great product, a shame they stopped manufacture. > > ** ** > > Carl Emerson > > Free Power Co. > > Web www.freepower.co.nz > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Hi Marco; > > Regular modules are designed to take quite an impact. I recall one > manufacturer that fired 1" ice balls with an air cannon at their modules, > and then let visitors throw baseballs at them. It seems the foul balls would > be at a lower velocity than a person could throw, but I don't know. > Also the Unisolar 64 module has a glass face, so I just don't know of a > framed module without glass. > Possibly you could add a sheet of Lexan (polycarbonate, very tough and > transparent) over the top of the array. I would think the losses would be > less than 10%. > http://www.modernplastics.com/lexan.html > Home Depot sells a corrugated polycarbonate clear roofing panel that could > possibly be attached over the top of the module. > > http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100049922/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 > I've run over it, stomped it, dropped tools on it, it pops right out, no > cracking. > > Ray > > On 7/26/2011 10:58 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: > > I’m looking to install a 10-20 kW system on a roof that’s going to be > getting falling foul balls from a nearby baseball field. > > ** ** > > The roof is not appropriate for any of the Uni-Solar peel-n-stick products. > > > ** ** > > Any recommendations for anything else out there that does not have a glass > glazing?Hi Marco > > ** ** > > Thanks, > > marco > > ** ** > > [image: provision_highres_solar_logo2 with C-26351] > > > Marco Mangelsdorf, President > 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 > Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 > (808) 969-3281, 934-7462 facsimile > www.provision-solar.com <http://www.provisiontechnologies.com> > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > > ___ > > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > ** ** > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > ** ** > > Options & settings: > > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > ** ** > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > ** ** > > List rules & etiquette: > > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > ** ** > > Check out participant bios: > > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ** ** > > > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & > settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette:www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios:www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] SIlicon energy modules
Yes I have installed these modules. Yes they do have a proprietary racking system. To buy these modules I believe the manufacture wants you to do some onsite training to show you the ins and outs. Basically, its four foot on center attachments to the racking put up loose until you add the module to the racking frame. Then tighten down to move to the next module. Are you planning a roof mount? metal roof w/ s5's? or ground mount? Check out my website to see some installations On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:08 PM, wrote: > > > Have you installed these Alex? I have specified them for a upcoming, local, > grid-tied system here in heavy snow country because there is no frame to > peel off from ice dams. The mounting system looks highly > complicated/confusing. Can you (or any other list members who have worked > with these) share with me your installation experience? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Todd > > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Silicon energy pole mount?
DPW has a set up. SnapNrack as well. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: > > Wrenches, > > I am looking at a job that will be using Silicon Energy -cascade series- > modules and hopefully a pole mount. Has anyone had any experience with this > set up? I have seen one such install on SiE's website, but I can't figure > much out from the photo. > > SiE's modules mount on 4' centers. > > > Thanks as always! > > Jesse > Sent from my iPad!!! > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] SIlicon energy modules
think so. COntact them about it. Maybe they have offsite online training. or they would work with you if you show them your previous work. They don't sell to distributors so they have to weed out who can buy and install their modules. I'm almost sure they would work with you. Call them up. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:20 PM, wrote: > So I have to get factory training to install these??? It will be on a ~4/12 > comp roof. > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:34pm, "Alex Cozine" > said: > > Yes I have installed these modules. Yes they do have a proprietary > racking system. To buy these modules I believe the manufacture wants you > to do some onsite training to show you the ins and outs. Basically, its > four foot on center attachments to the racking put up loose until you add > the module to the racking frame. Then tighten down to move to the next > module. > > Are you planning a roof mount? metal roof w/ s5's? > or ground mount? > > Check out my website to see some installations > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:08 PM, wrote: > >> Have you installed these Alex? I have specified them for a upcoming, >> local, grid-tied system here in heavy snow country because there is no frame >> to peel off from ice dams. The mounting system looks highly >> complicated/confusing. Can you (or any other list members who have worked >> with these) share with me your installation experience? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Todd >> >> >> >> > > -- > Alex Cozine > NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ > > Brothers Electric & Solar > brotherselectricsolar.com > > > > Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Gross PV production meter options
Ditto Larry's link: 1 turns meter when PV power sold. 2 turns meter when Battery Power sold. 3 cancels turns when: pulling power to charge battery and using that battery power for critical loads. (power used from grid is still accounted for on the utility meter) side note: for 120V output you need 2 meters for 240 volt output (one for each output) Good luck On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:59 PM, wrote: > David, > > Here is a link to what you might be looking for: > http://www.outbackpower.com/pdf/tech_notes/120_vac_single_inverter.pdf > > Larry Liesner > Wirewiz > 31 Lincoln St > Westport, CT 06880 > 203-644-2404 > wire...@gmail.com > www.wire-wiz.com > NABCEP Certified PV Installer (# 032611-184) > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™\ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Home energy monitoring was (low cost DAS systems)
I'm looking at TED 5002-c. The Energy Detective tech says that you can monitor home usage as well as the inverter. It's sent to a transmitter and wireless to your computer to view energy usage and inverter production. Any experience with this product? What types of home energy monitoring devices are others using out there for their customers? -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase System Labeling
Ditto Kent. And thanks Marv for submitting changes. Explaining to the AHJ that it is ok to install enphase without rooftop disc switch is much easier with clear instructions from the manufacturer. Marv: "You're absolutely right. I'll submit changes to the manual for our > next round of compliance testing. > > Our goal is to reduce installed cost and not compromise safety. > > Thanks for the suggestions." > > Kent Osterberg wrote: > > The AC connector of the first microinverter in a branch circuit is suitable > as a disconnecting means under all output power conditions. However it is > recommended that the AC branch circuit breaker energizing the inverters be > opened first. > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Church Solar
I ask, WWWD, what would wrenches do for church/school installations in respect to federal/production incentives specifically at churches and schools? One person champions the federal tax incentive? A "corporation/congregation" owns the proposed system? Each member of congregation owns a module? Is there any way to have tax/production incentives at a church? -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] ground-mounted systems, performance
The only problem I've seen was due to a sloped hillside and a riding lawnmower projectile. These modules are what refer to as the "Cadillac" of modules. If you have a chance to use them, you should. On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Rebecca Lundberg < rebecca.lundb...@powerfullygreen.com> wrote: > Hi Jesse, > > I'm curious about what you are seeing. We've seen better performance than > that on arrays with those modules, but don't have module-level monitoring > available on any of our systems. Does it look like there is a bipass diode > failure with the shattered modules (probably covered under warranty), or > was there something like lightning near your ground-mounted system? We have > a customer whose home received a direct lightning strike recently (no fire > or human injury!), and 100% of the PV system needs to be replaced (except > flashing/racking), unfortunately. > > I thought the delamination issues were only (or mostly) generation 2 > modules and only in our state, but wonder if any installers in other places > (WA?) are seeing this too? > > Keep Shining! > Rebecca Lundberg > Powerfully Green > > Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 17:30:02 -0500 >> From: Solar >> To: RE-wrenches >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] ground mounted systems >> Message-ID: <69f1d6ab-a424-4bc9-a1df-9bef5d3c4...@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> William Miller has some nice ideas on his website regarding protecting >> circuits. I've used his ideas on one project and the inspector liked it. >> >> Silicon Energy makes a module with raceways for output circuits. Their >> module is expensive comparatively speaking and I've never seen one of their >> 190W modules produce over 155W (using Tigos to monitor) they've also had >> some delimitation problems with modules made here in MN and one of my >> Silicon Energy systems has two modules with the glass shattered on it that >> I discovered today. >> >> Jesse Dahl >> > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding Separately Derived AC System
I agree, no bonding jumper from neutral to ground in a grid tied system disconnect. It's not a Separately derived system by NEC definition. The premises does have grid power and pv power, but they are from the same system. That's how I see it. -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] meter pan?
In some areas in Washington no outside disconnect is required for production meter when under 5kw system. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Isaac Opalinsky wrote: > The funny thing about requiring a disconnect on both sides of the meter is > that the meter is only energized from one source - the utility. And for > that matter, 230.82 permits a meter to be on the supply side of a service > disconnect (it sounds like you were proposing the meter would be on the > load side of the PV System Disconnect). Anything having to do with the > arrangement between a meter and a disconnect (or disconnects) is either a > local amendment, utility requirement or an incentive program requirement. > Couldn't you even have a meter with no disconnect (as far as the NEC is > concerned)? > > Isaac Opalinsky > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric & Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Silicon Energy install steps?
Sunmodo in Vancouver WA makes a nice flashing with a 'C' foot that gives room for trusses that aren't exactly 4' on center. Here's my salesman's email if you want to see this foot, it isn't on the website at the moment. gwin...@sunmodo.com I agree with bclark. You have to snap lines and measure corner to corner to get yourself as close as possible to perfect square so you give yourself the best chance in getting the modules to slide up easily. Advice: measure between "trays" or "slide channel" before bringing each module to the roof. Ditto bclark to start with first column and work to next column. East/West third party rails are often the solution to give a little play in the installation. That being said you must have your rubber mallet available for these installations. Good Luck, Silicon Energy is a great, robust product and worth any difficulties that may come with the installation. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Silicon Energy install steps?
Darryl, What type of alignment blocks? Solid off centered blocks? or "C" shaped 'L' feet like these Sundmodo products? Ditto Darryl's comments, The measurements are much more critical for the trays than most other standard modules. On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Darryl Thayer wrote: > I made a few alignment blocks that allow a 1" circle on the lag bolt > centers to allow for the critical alignment of trays. However they cost $7 > each to be made in a CNC shop. If there were a call for these it could be > extruded. and maybe $2 each.But I agree the SiE is a solid module > >*From:* Alex Cozine > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Sent:* Friday, May 4, 2012 4:55 PM > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Silicon Energy install steps? > > Sunmodo in Vancouver WA makes a nice flashing with a 'C' foot that gives > room for trusses that aren't exactly 4' on center. Here's my salesman's > email if you want to see this foot, it isn't on the website at the moment. > gwin...@sunmodo.com > > I agree with bclark. You have to snap lines and measure corner to corner > to get yourself as close as possible to perfect square so you give yourself > the best chance in getting the modules to slide up easily. Advice: > measure between "trays" or "slide channel" before bringing each module to > the roof. Ditto bclark to start with first column and work to next column. > East/West third party rails are often the solution to give a little play > in the installation. > > That being said you must have your rubber mallet available for these > installations. > > Good Luck, Silicon Energy is a great, robust product and worth any > difficulties that may come with the installation. > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Whole House Energy Monitor
Anyone used the simple ENVI meters? Or is E- gauge the way to go? On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Rebecca Lundberg < rebecca.lundb...@powerfullygreen.com> wrote: > We have installed a lot of TED systems. We now use E-Gauge, hands > down. Easy set up, reasonable cost, great customer service, online > access (with no fee), various voltage options, and up to 12 CTs in a > system. Can't beat it, honestly, and we rarely install a system > without it. > > Rebecca Lundberg > NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ® > Owner/CEO, Powerfully Green > rebecca.lundb...@powerfullygreen.com > 763-438-1976 > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I'm wondering who has experience and can recommend a quality whole > house > > energy monitor that has solar monitoring capabilities. I like The Energy > > Detective (TED), but it uses powerline communication, and we install a > lot > > of Enphase systems these days which use the same communications > protocol, so > > I'm worried about com crosstalk between the two systems. Does anybody > have > > experience with a good monitor? > > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fed tax credit?
To add to the question, what about electrical panel work, or even service upgrade? On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote: > Hello, > > I remember someone asking something kind of similar before, but couldn't > find it in the archives. Can replacing the shingles be considered when > calculating the total cost of a PV system for Federal tax credit? > > Thanks as always! > > Jesse > > Sent from my iPad!!! > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Fwd: NABCEP Recertification Survey
Ditto john's remarks; good intro letter BUT, "I would like to see #2 replaced with something more upbeat. 'Were you happy with the installation process and do you feel that the overall experience reflected the efforts of a true professional in this field?' " *TO BE COMPLETED BY SYSTEM OWNER: * > ** ** > 1. Upon completion of the System installation, did the System work as > expected? > Yes o No o > If no, please identify and explain all deficiencies or problems that you > experienced. > ** ** > 2. Did the System installation cause any leaks or property damage? > Yes o No o > If yes, please identify and explain the nature of such leaks and/or > damage. > ** ** > 3. Did the System installation cause any other problems or deficiencies > that needed resolution during or after the installation of the System? *** > * > Yes o No o > If yes, please identify and explain such problems or deficiencies, and > whether they were satisfactorily resolved in a timely, professional manner > by the Installer? > ** ** > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions
Rebecca, First off, nice install on the four SiE pole mounts! Second, as long as we are talking strictly grid-tied systems, not AC coupled or battery backup, it seems like Solar should be viewed more like an appliance. It supplements the service at your house. That being said, you've got a tough battle ahead. Hopefully someone else on the list has a great way of calming this inspector down with some good old code lullibies. Good luck! Sometimes it feels like the Solar 'cops', I mean inspectors, are trying to justify their jobs. Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Journeyman Electrician EL01 www.brotherselectricsolar.com On Oct 13, 2012 8:13 AM, "Rebecca Lundberg" < rebecca.lundb...@powerfullygreen.com> wrote: > Dear fellow wrenches, > > Does anyone have suggestions for the 'best' way to keep up with product > availability for meeting 690.11 on DC AFCI? I understand that when this > code section was written there was no available device, and know that at > least several companies are working on devices. How will I know (before the > AHJ knows :-) that residential-scale products are available for purchase, > and at what point would you say now should be required over every other > option? > > Second question: I have an inspector insisting that the solar PV system is > the same as a utility service, and is requiring all of the required service > code references to apply. Anybody have a concise reference that might > convince him otherwise? This same inspector has decided that the electrical > permit will have adders for each inverter as service equipment, and each > module as an electrical device. It would sure be nice if there was more > consistency...we're still in the early adopter phase here in Minnesota. > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Keep Shining! > Rebecca Lundberg > NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ® > Owner/CEO, Powerfully Green > rebecca.lundb...@powerfullygreen.com > 763-438-1976 > > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Contract Examples
Although, not a specifically a wrenching question, writing solid paperwork directly leads to turning the wrench. I am looking to update my contract small print. I'm updating a contract that has worked for 35 years, but it is highly reliant on a firm hand shake, so to speak. In summary, it contains; price, terms of payment, expressed warranty and workmanship manner, not responsible for out of control delays, bid good for 30 days, extras billed on top of this contract, acceptor pays attorneys if it has to go to court for any reason, service percentage for over due balance. Any suggestions or must-haves? Anyone writing in consulting charges for "design rights", clause for if you designed something unique for a customer someone else uses your design? -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Power Panel hybrid PV/thermal
Looks pretty slick, although not made in Washington. Still I like the concept. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Randy Brooks wrote: > Fellow Wrenches, > > Has anyone worked with or seen first hand the Power Panel hybrid > PV/thermal module? www.powerpanel.com > > Thanks, > > Randy Brooks > > Brooks Solar, Inc. > > *Solar Power for People* > > 140 Columbia View > > Chelan, WA 98816 > > 509-682-9646 > > ra...@brookssolar.com > > www.BrooksSolar.com > > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding bushings?
Just ran in to that. two foot EMT raceway from a production meter into the grid panel. we had to take it out of the emt and run it on the outside to make the inspector happy, I mean, to meet code. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM, August Goers wrote: > Jesse, > > Any metallic raceway that has a GEC running through it needs bonding. So, > if you've got the Enphase DC-GEC running through it then, yes, it would > need bonding fittings. At least that's my take on it. > > Check out NEC 250.64(E) towards the second half of the paragraph. 2011 NEC > has a nice clarification point and directs you to 250.92(B)(2) through > (B)(4). > > Best, > > August > > > August Goers > > Luminalt Energy Corporation > 1320 Potrero Avenue > San Francisco, CA 94110 > m: 415.559.1525 > o: 415.641.4000 > aug...@luminalt.com > > -Original Message- > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Dahl > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:45 AM > To: Wrenches > Subject: [RE-wrenches] Bonding bushings? > > If you are using micro inverters and terminating them in an AC combiner > panel, does the feed for the AC combiner panel (125A) need to have bonding > bushings for the ground wire? In other words is this ground wire a > GEC/Equipment ground like might be used if running an inverter output to a > panel? The raceway is already in and is EMT. > > Thanks! > > Jesse > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Alex Cozine NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Journeyman Electrician Brothers Electric Solar brotherselectricsolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
