[RE-wrenches] AGM recommendations?

[David Palumbo via RE-wrenches]

Wrenches,

I have decided that AGM batteries would be best for a rental house battery 
replacement that I own and manage.

I'm looking for a good quality brand that has AGM's that will get me up to the 
900 to 1,000 AH range for my 24v system.

I have not found any distributors with Surrette's that available right now. I 
need to install in mid-October.

What other manufacturers of AGM's should I be looking at right now?

Thanks,
Dave Palumbo
Hyde Park, VT
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM recommendations?

[Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches]

David

I have installed hundreds of Concorde AGMs and about same quantity of FullRiver 
AGMs. About 225 off grid systems using 12 or 24 AGMs in each system depending 
on need. 

Concorde offers a 2V 900Ah and 6V 300Ah “tall golf car” battery. And they have 
an L-16 size as well similar to FullRiver. 

FullRiver offers a 6V 400Ah and 2V 1150Ah L-16 size. 

I personally own 24 each FullRiver 6V 400Ah bank (48V nominal) for my main 
house backup (installed since 2017, Outback Radian). 

And I have 24 2V 1200Ah Concorde AGMs in a rental. (48V, XW6048). 

I have a broker / supplier for both (same guy). I’ll text his contact. 

Thank you,

Maverick

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> On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:20 AM, David Palumbo via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wrenches,
> 
> I have decided that AGM batteries would be best for a rental house battery 
> replacement that I own and manage.
> 
> I'm looking for a good quality brand that has AGM's that will get me up to 
> the 900 to 1,000 AH range for my 24v system. 
> 
> I have not found any distributors with Surrette's that available right now. I 
> need to install in mid-October.
> 
> What other manufacturers of AGM's should I be looking at right now?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave Palumbo
> Hyde Park, VT
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Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Epprom D Technical Bulletin

[Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches]

Wrenches,
I may still have some new eproms if needed, reach out if l can help
Jerry

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> HI Wrenches,
>
> We have an old SMA SB SWR 2500U inverter with the infamous Epprom D
> Error.  I remember SMA coming out with a technical bulletin to address this
> via a reset process and I can remember performing the reset several times,
> but I don’t remember the exact process/which pins to jump.  When I do a
> google search for the bulletin, I can’t find it.
>
> Does anyone have a copy of remember the process to try the reset?  ( I
> know it doesn’t always work).
>
> Thanks,
> Amos
>
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[RE-wrenches] SMA Epprom D Technical Bulletin

[Amos Post via RE-wrenches]

HI Wrenches,

We have an old SMA SB SWR 2500U inverter with the infamous Epprom D Error.  I 
remember SMA coming out with a technical bulletin to address this via a reset 
process and I can remember performing the reset several times, but I don’t 
remember the exact process/which pins to jump.  When I do a google search for 
the bulletin, I can’t find it.

Does anyone have a copy of remember the process to try the reset?  ( I know it 
doesn’t always work).  

Thanks,
Amos




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Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Epprom D Technical Bulletin

[Tom McCalmont via RE-wrenches]

Here’s a link to a procedure that will correct it:

https://re-wrenches.re-wrenches.narkive.com/nhEOw8Ge/sma-eeprom-d-error-fixes

If you can find a copy of it, there is also a firmware fix you can upload that 
will correct it so it does not recur again.

Good luck!

Tom McCalmont
CEO, Paired Power
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Direct: (669) 877-2931

> On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:47 AM, Amos Post via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> HI Wrenches,
> 
> We have an old SMA SB SWR 2500U inverter with the infamous Epprom D Error.  I 
> remember SMA coming out with a technical bulletin to address this via a reset 
> process and I can remember performing the reset several times, but I don’t 
> remember the exact process/which pins to jump.  When I do a google search for 
> the bulletin, I can’t find it.
> 
> Does anyone have a copy of remember the process to try the reset?  ( I know 
> it doesn’t always work).  
> 
> Thanks,
> Amos
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>Integrity Energy
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>C 802.291.2188
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM recommendations?

[Allan Sindelar via RE-wrenches]

Dave, my experience is by now pretty dated, but I never had a failure or 
substandard performance from Fullriver AGMs. 
Allan

> On Sep 23, 2024, at 5:20 AM, David Palumbo via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wrenches,
> 
> I have decided that AGM batteries would be best for a rental house battery 
> replacement that I own and manage.
> 
> I'm looking for a good quality brand that has AGM's that will get me up to 
> the 900 to 1,000 AH range for my 24v system. 
> 
> I have not found any distributors with Surrette's that available right now. I 
> need to install in mid-October.
> 
> What other manufacturers of AGM's should I be looking at right now?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave Palumbo
> Hyde Park, VT
> 802-371-8678 text or voice
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM recommendations?

[Starlight via RE-wrenches]

I too can recommend FullRiver. We had one issue where they failed to take care 
of a warranty claim that we believe we were entitled to. Otherwise, I consider 
them to be the best quality LA AGM battery.

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Power Systems



On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Allan Sindelar via RE-wrenches 
 wrote:

Dave, my experience is by now pretty dated, but I never had a failure or 
substandard performance from Fullriver AGMs. 
Allan

> On Sep 23, 2024, at 5:20 AM, David Palumbo via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wrenches,
> 
> I have decided that AGM batteries would be best for a rental house battery 
> replacement that I own and manage.
> 
> I'm looking for a good quality brand that has AGM's that will get me up to 
> the 900 to 1,000 AH range for my 24v system. 
> 
> I have not found any distributors with Surrette's that available right now. I 
> need to install in mid-October.
> 
> What other manufacturers of AGM's should I be looking at right now?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave Palumbo
> Hyde Park, VT
> 802-371-8678 text or voice
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback RTS

[bob--- via RE-wrenches]

Fair enough Steve.   You are probably right.  Better to be safe than sorry.

The Resistance  vs. Temperature curve could have been different.

The old Trace  BTS's were 100K Ohms.   The Magnum BTS's were different also.

Feel better soon !

🌜boB🌛

On 9/23/2024 3:38 PM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches wrote:
I'm sorry, guys. My head is killing me; I shouldn't be working! I 
picked up the Flu at RE+!   I'm just now starting to get over it.


 I meant to say:

To my knowledge, they didn't change their battery temperature 
sensors...  The BTS on the Radian is the same as the Charge 
controllers and FX and FXRs...


If they did, that would turn out a real mess...

Bob, I can't remember the resistance, but the Outback and Midnite BTS 
were different. I seem to remember that we had a customer do this, 
which caused problems with the charging.


But again, I'm getting old, and this flu is killing me!



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On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 1:58 PM Steve Higgins  wrote:

Drake,

To my knowledge, they still need to change their battery
temperature sensors...  The BTS on the Radian is the same as the
Charge controllers and FX and FXRs...

If they did, that would turn out a real mess...



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Are all Outback temperature sensors the same?
I need some for Radian GS8048 (not A). Is there a good place
to get them these days?
Thank you,
Drake
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[RE-wrenches] Outback RTS

[Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches]

Are all Outback temperature sensors the same?

I need some for Radian GS8048 (not A). Is there a good place to get them 
these days?


Thank you,

Drake
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback RTS

[bob--- via RE-wrenches]

As I remember, the OB BTS's are 10K Ohms (@25C) thermistors. NTCs.   
Same as MidNite's BTS.


You might try plugging in a MidNite BTS and see if the temperatures 
shown on the OB

come out right.

 I don't have an MX60 handy to try otherwise I would have checked this.
If it doesn't work, then it is a simple wiring of that phone jack or the 
phone cable.


🌜boB🌛

On 9/23/2024 1:58 PM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches wrote:

Drake,

To my knowledge, they still need to change their battery temperature 
sensors...  The BTS on the Radian is the same as the Charge 
controllers and FX and FXRs...


If they did, that would turn out a real mess...



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Are all Outback temperature sensors the same?
I need some for Radian GS8048 (not A). Is there a good place to
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Thank you,
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback RTS

[Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches]

Drake,

To my knowledge, they still need to change their battery temperature
sensors...  The BTS on the Radian is the same as the Charge controllers and
FX and FXRs...

If they did, that would turn out a real mess...


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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>
> Are all Outback temperature sensors the same?
>
> I need some for Radian GS8048 (not A). Is there a good place to get them
> these days?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Drake
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM recommendations?

[jay via RE-wrenches]

HI All,

You’ve all obviously had people take way better care of their VRLA batteries 
than I have.  And it seems as though VRLA and FLA are both not lasting as long 
as they used to for reasons I don’t understand. 

When I hear someone say yeah I want VRLA for my rental, I can only say no way 
would I do that. But maybe you’ve got really really good renters. 
My experience with renters is they are really good at killing batteries.  The 
last renter we had, after he killed the batteries through neglect, we told him 
he had to replace them, and he did.  Then it was great as I didn’t care what he 
did.  

At this point with the cost of LFP vs VRLA and cycle life, availability  etc 
and all that, LFP is the clear winner for me. With the exception of sub 
freezing temperatures. 

Just my 2 cents

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> On Sep 23, 2024, at 9:23 AM, Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> David
> 
> I have installed hundreds of Concorde AGMs and about same quantity of 
> FullRiver AGMs. About 225 off grid systems using 12 or 24 AGMs in each system 
> depending on need. 
> 
> Concorde offers a 2V 900Ah and 6V 300Ah “tall golf car” battery. And they 
> have an L-16 size as well similar to FullRiver. 
> 
> FullRiver offers a 6V 400Ah and 2V 1150Ah L-16 size. 
> 
> I personally own 24 each FullRiver 6V 400Ah bank (48V nominal) for my main 
> house backup (installed since 2017, Outback Radian). 
> 
> And I have 24 2V 1200Ah Concorde AGMs in a rental. (48V, XW6048). 
> 
> I have a broker / supplier for both (same guy). I’ll text his contact. 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Maverick
> 
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>> Wrenches,
>> 
>> I have decided that AGM batteries would be best for a rental house battery 
>> replacement that I own and manage.
>> 
>> I'm looking for a good quality brand that has AGM's that will get me up to 
>> the 900 to 1,000 AH range for my 24v system. 
>> 
>> I have not found any distributors with Surrette's that available right now. 
>> I need to install in mid-October.
>> 
>> What other manufacturers of AGM's should I be looking at right now?
>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback RTS

[Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches]

I'm sorry, guys. My head is killing me; I shouldn't be working! I picked up
the Flu at RE+!   I'm just now starting to get over it.

 I meant to say:

To my knowledge, they didn't change their battery temperature sensors...
The BTS on the Radian is the same as the Charge controllers and FX and
FXRs...

If they did, that would turn out a real mess...

Bob, I can't remember the resistance, but the Outback and Midnite BTS were
different. I seem to remember that we had a customer do this, which caused
problems with the charging.

But again, I'm getting old, and this flu is killing me!


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] favortie micro inverters?

[david quattro via RE-wrenches]

I used Chilicon on a couple installs, and Enphase is far better.





On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 9:05 PM greg egan via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Good intel.  I believe their micros are rated to -40C/F.  If they quit
> working at that temp it would be okay as long as they start back up when
> if warms up.  Normally when it's that cold the sun is pretty scarce at
> this latitude.
>
> Greg Egan
> Remote Power Inc.
> Fairbanks, AK
>
> On 9/23/2024 7:47 PM, MDElectricSolar wrote:
> > Been around forever, good tech support, the products have been improved
> and refined, easy to install, good monitoring platform. Not sure how they
> would fare in Alaskan winters though…
> >
> > Maybe an sma installed indoors?
> >
> > Michael D Nelson
> > MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
> > 707-684-0064 mobile
> > 707-884-1862 office
> > www.mdelectricsolar.com
> > www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:41 PM, greg egan  wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael, thank you.  Any particular reason you like them best?
> >>
> >>
> >> Greg Egan
> >> Remote Power Inc.
> >> Fairbanks, AK
> >>
> >>> On 9/23/2024 7:29 PM, MDElectricSolar wrote:
> >>> Enphase…
> >>>
> >>> Michael D Nelson
> >>> MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
> >>> 707-684-0064 mobile
> >>> 707-884-1862 office
> >>> www.mdelectricsolar.com
> >>> www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar
> >>>
> >>>
> > On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:30 PM, greg egan via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>  Esteemed wrenches,
> 
>  Have a client that is grid connected (not my usual client) and
> looking to do solar without back up.  Has shading issues so I'm thinking
> micros would work best for this application, plus take care of rapid shut
> down without needing extra devices/wiring.  Problem is I have not ever
> installed micros.
> 
>  Any recommendations on brands /models that have been reliable? Decent
> tech support?  Customer just wants something that works and is relatively
> simple to navigate the online monitoring.  Probably 4-5 kW so not a huge
> system.
> 
>  Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] favortie micro inverters?

[MDElectricSolar via RE-wrenches]

Enphase…

Michael D Nelson
MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
707-684-0064 mobile
707-884-1862 office
www.mdelectricsolar.com
www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar


> On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:30 PM, greg egan via RE-wrenches 
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> Esteemed wrenches,
> 
> Have a client that is grid connected (not my usual client) and looking to do 
> solar without back up.  Has shading issues so I'm thinking micros would work 
> best for this application, plus take care of rapid shut down without needing 
> extra devices/wiring.  Problem is I have not ever installed micros.
> 
> Any recommendations on brands /models that have been reliable? Decent tech 
> support?  Customer just wants something that works and is relatively simple 
> to navigate the online monitoring.  Probably 4-5 kW so not a huge system.
> 
> Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] favortie micro inverters?

[MDElectricSolar via RE-wrenches]

Been around forever, good tech support, the products have been improved and 
refined, easy to install, good monitoring platform. Not sure how they would 
fare in Alaskan winters though…

Maybe an sma installed indoors?

Michael D Nelson
MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
707-684-0064 mobile
707-884-1862 office
www.mdelectricsolar.com
www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar


> On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:41 PM, greg egan  wrote:
> 
> Michael, thank you.  Any particular reason you like them best?
> 
> 
> Greg Egan
> Remote Power Inc.
> Fairbanks, AK
> 
>> On 9/23/2024 7:29 PM, MDElectricSolar wrote:
>> Enphase…
>> 
>> Michael D Nelson
>> MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
>> 707-684-0064 mobile
>> 707-884-1862 office
>> www.mdelectricsolar.com
>> www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:30 PM, greg egan via RE-wrenches 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Esteemed wrenches,
>>> 
>>> Have a client that is grid connected (not my usual client) and looking to 
>>> do solar without back up.  Has shading issues so I'm thinking micros would 
>>> work best for this application, plus take care of rapid shut down without 
>>> needing extra devices/wiring.  Problem is I have not ever installed micros.
>>> 
>>> Any recommendations on brands /models that have been reliable? Decent tech 
>>> support?  Customer just wants something that works and is relatively simple 
>>> to navigate the online monitoring.  Probably 4-5 kW so not a huge system.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!
>>> 
>>> Greg Egan
>>> Remote Power Inc.
>>> Fairbanks, AK
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Re: [RE-wrenches] favortie micro inverters?

[greg egan via RE-wrenches]

Good intel.  I believe their micros are rated to -40C/F.  If they quit 
working at that temp it would be okay as long as they start back up when 
if warms up.  Normally when it's that cold the sun is pretty scarce at 
this latitude.


Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.
Fairbanks, AK

On 9/23/2024 7:47 PM, MDElectricSolar wrote:

Been around forever, good tech support, the products have been improved and 
refined, easy to install, good monitoring platform. Not sure how they would 
fare in Alaskan winters though…

Maybe an sma installed indoors?

Michael D Nelson
MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
707-684-0064 mobile
707-884-1862 office
www.mdelectricsolar.com
www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar



On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:41 PM, greg egan  wrote:

Michael, thank you.  Any particular reason you like them best?


Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.
Fairbanks, AK


On 9/23/2024 7:29 PM, MDElectricSolar wrote:
Enphase…

Michael D Nelson
MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
707-684-0064 mobile
707-884-1862 office
www.mdelectricsolar.com
www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar



On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:30 PM, greg egan via RE-wrenches 
 wrote:

Esteemed wrenches,

Have a client that is grid connected (not my usual client) and looking to do 
solar without back up.  Has shading issues so I'm thinking micros would work 
best for this application, plus take care of rapid shut down without needing 
extra devices/wiring.  Problem is I have not ever installed micros.

Any recommendations on brands /models that have been reliable? Decent tech 
support?  Customer just wants something that works and is relatively simple to 
navigate the online monitoring.  Probably 4-5 kW so not a huge system.

Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!

Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.
Fairbanks, AK
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Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM recommendations?

[William Miller via RE-wrenches]

David:



I use the Deka UnigyII.  They come in various ratings and sizes.  They have
been very reliable.



Take the time to learn the model numbering scheme so you get the right ones
for your project.  Unless you have access to the back side of the stack get
the interlocking version.



These batteries can be tedious to install because they are heavy and you
have to stack them.  I can provide some tips on handling them.  I’ve been
meaning to make a web-page on the subject.



William



Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985





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Behalf Of *David Palumbo via RE-wrenches
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2024 5:20 AM
*To:* Wrench List
*Cc:* David Palumbo
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] AGM recommendations?



Wrenches,



I have decided that AGM batteries would be best for a rental house battery
replacement that I own and manage.



I'm looking for a good quality brand that has AGM's that will get me up to
the 900 to 1,000 AH range for my 24v system.



I have not found any distributors with Surrette's that available right now.
I need to install in mid-October.



What other manufacturers of AGM's should I be looking at right now?



Thanks,

Dave Palumbo

Hyde Park, VT

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[RE-wrenches] favortie micro inverters?

[greg egan via RE-wrenches]

Esteemed wrenches,

Have a client that is grid connected (not my usual client) and looking 
to do solar without back up.  Has shading issues so I'm thinking micros 
would work best for this application, plus take care of rapid shut down 
without needing extra devices/wiring.  Problem is I have not ever 
installed micros.


Any recommendations on brands /models that have been reliable? Decent 
tech support?  Customer just wants something that works and is 
relatively simple to navigate the online monitoring.  Probably 4-5 kW so 
not a huge system.


Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!

Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.
Fairbanks, AK
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Re: [RE-wrenches] favortie micro inverters?

[greg egan via RE-wrenches]

Dave,

Was reading about AP systems DC 3's tonight.  Will start reading Enphase 
in the morning.  Thanks for sharing.


Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.
Fairbanks, AK



On 9/23/2024 9:07 PM, david quattro wrote:

I used Chilicon on a couple installs, and Enphase is far better.





On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 9:05 PM greg egan via RE-wrenches 
 wrote:


Good intel.  I believe their micros are rated to -40C/F.  If they
quit
working at that temp it would be okay as long as they start back
up when
if warms up.  Normally when it's that cold the sun is pretty
scarce at
this latitude.

Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.
Fairbanks, AK

On 9/23/2024 7:47 PM, MDElectricSolar wrote:
> Been around forever, good tech support, the products have been
improved and refined, easy to install, good monitoring platform.
Not sure how they would fare in Alaskan winters though…
>
> Maybe an sma installed indoors?
>
> Michael D Nelson
> MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
> 707-684-0064 mobile
> 707-884-1862 office
> www.mdelectricsolar.com 
> www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar

>
>
>> On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:41 PM, greg egan
 wrote:
>>
>> Michael, thank you.  Any particular reason you like them best?
>>
>>
>> Greg Egan
>> Remote Power Inc.
>> Fairbanks, AK
>>
>>> On 9/23/2024 7:29 PM, MDElectricSolar wrote:
>>> Enphase…
>>>
>>> Michael D Nelson
>>> MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
>>> 707-684-0064 mobile
>>> 707-884-1862 office
>>> www.mdelectricsolar.com 
>>> www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar

>>>
>>>
> On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:30 PM, greg egan via RE-wrenches
 wrote:
 Esteemed wrenches,

 Have a client that is grid connected (not my usual client)
and looking to do solar without back up. Has shading issues so I'm
thinking micros would work best for this application, plus take
care of rapid shut down without needing extra devices/wiring. 
Problem is I have not ever installed micros.

 Any recommendations on brands /models that have been
reliable? Decent tech support?  Customer just wants something that
works and is relatively simple to navigate the online monitoring. 
Probably 4-5 kW so not a huge system.

 Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!

 Greg Egan
 Remote Power Inc.
 Fairbanks, AK
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Re: [RE-wrenches] favortie micro inverters?

[greg egan via RE-wrenches]

Michael, thank you.  Any particular reason you like them best?


Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.
Fairbanks, AK

On 9/23/2024 7:29 PM, MDElectricSolar wrote:

Enphase…

Michael D Nelson
MD Electric & Solar, Inc.
707-684-0064 mobile
707-884-1862 office
www.mdelectricsolar.com
www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar



On Sep 23, 2024, at 7:30 PM, greg egan via RE-wrenches 
 wrote:

Esteemed wrenches,

Have a client that is grid connected (not my usual client) and looking to do 
solar without back up.  Has shading issues so I'm thinking micros would work 
best for this application, plus take care of rapid shut down without needing 
extra devices/wiring.  Problem is I have not ever installed micros.

Any recommendations on brands /models that have been reliable? Decent tech 
support?  Customer just wants something that works and is relatively simple to 
navigate the online monitoring.  Probably 4-5 kW so not a huge system.

Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!

Greg Egan
Remote Power Inc.
Fairbanks, AK
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