[RE-wrenches] Admin note
Wrenches. I'm going to be out in the wilderness for about a week. (Yes, your member contributions have helped allow me a vacation.) One of the things I do is keep an eye on the spam & off-topic traps to make sure Wrenches' messages that are caught can be pushed through. I don't anticipate any, but if it happens I won't be around to approve until back into civilization. Anyway, keep the messages flowing and I'll see your good stuff when I get home. ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] 2000v DLO/RHW-2 : in conduit required?
Hello All, I've now done several Blue Ion, both 48vdc and HV storage systems. Those with experience know that the 2.0 cabinet DC cabling comes out the back of the unit. In my 48v off-grid installs I've used DLO/RHW-2 into a wireway, making a DC bus with power distribution blocks, then to inverter, etc. I loop and support the cable from the back of the battery cabinet, allowing extra should I ever need to move it(it's on casters) to access the back for servicing. The current BI 48v system I am building is commercial grid-tie and requires AHJ inspection. Is having RHW-2 cable in free air from the cabinet to a wireway NEC-legal (i.e. without conduit)? Obviously if conduit is needed, it eliminates looping and an easy roll of the cabinets away from a wall for service. Thanks. I await the opinion of of the BI gurus of this forum. Found references on Mike Holt's forum to DLO/RHW-2 and conduit requirement, but no consensus one way or the other. Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar [mailto:kirkh@vermont.solar] Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC Celebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!! www.vermont.solar [https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645&sdata=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D&reserved=0] dba Vermont Solar Engineering 802.863.1202 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Conext Configuration Tool password needed
Esteemed Wrenches, Working on a system with 4 XW+ inverters. Using a conext config tool I used a few years ago. I am trying to set the AC output voltages on the inverters so they were within .5 VAC per the manual. When you try to configure the AC output It gives you a warning and requires a password. I have tried the password that worked with the Gateway and guessed at many others but no luck. I did a word search for "password" in all the schneider O & M manuals that had anything remotely to do with inverters, config tool, multi inverter systems etc. Anyone know the secret handshake? If I made one years ago and no longer have it does anyone know how I can reset it? Also wondering if anyone is using the new combox successfully with XW+ inverters? Looks like Schneider discontinued the XW+ line as well as the original combox. I've heard good things about the combox and would like to try out the new version if it's compatible. Thanks in advance, I appreciate it! Greg Egan Remote Power Inc. Fairbanks, AK ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Conext Configuration Tool password needed
Hey Greg, The PW should be in here at the link. It is in the XWP NA link at the website under user manuals. https://solar.schneider-electric.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Conext-XW-Pro-NA-Addendum_Multi-Unit-AC-Output-Voltage-Configuration-and-Calibration-990-91314.pdf If it is not, let us know! I will see if it is in a file here or can check on monday! Getting close 5 pm here and that is a priority The monitor system and remote config system is called Insight Local. It can go out to Insight cloud for remote control like Optics. It works very well with old legacy grey box XW's and also with XW+ and XW pro. They knocked this system out of the park as it is all I need for my 300+ clients using XW. Alot of them do not want anything but the SCP. I make them buy a conext Home or Facility anyway for my own ease. Conext Facility was called the Gateway. They are the same and work really well. Combox is discontinued and no longer for sale! Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ e-mail offgridso...@sti.net text 209 813 0060 On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 15:05:40 -0800, greg egan wrote: > Esteemed Wrenches, Working on a system with 4 XW+ inverters. Using a > conext config tool I used a few years ago. I am trying to set the AC > output voltages on the inverters so they were within .5 VAC per the > manual. When you try to configure the AC output It gives you a warning > and requires a password. I have tried the password that worked with the > Gateway and guessed at many others but no luck. I did a word search for > "password" in all the schneider O & M manuals that had anything remotely > to do with inverters, config tool, multi inverter systems etc. > > Anyone know the secret handshake? If I made one years ago and no longer > have it does anyone know how I can reset it? > > Also wondering if anyone is using the new combox successfully with XW+ > inverters? Looks like Schneider discontinued the XW+ line as well as > the original combox. I've heard good things about the combox and would > like to try out the new version if it's compatible. > > Thanks in advance, I appreciate it! > > Greg Egan > Remote Power Inc. > Fairbanks, AK > > > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePo4 Low Temp Charging Damage
Check out Battle Born Batteries out of Reno, they have heater kits available for their LiFePO4 100 ah batteries. Just came out with a 280 ah 8D size, don't see a heater kit for it yet. Will check back in with them soon to see if it's on the shelf. Chris Worcester Solar Wind Works NABCEP PV Installation Professional Cell 530-448-9692 www.solarwindworks.com ch...@solarwindworks.com -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:33 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePo4 Low Temp Charging Damage I can think of a few other things for the wish list! l Closed loop charging with multiple sources. Robust BMS design to not be a new source of power failures Offgrid. Spare BMS for sale with product that is servicable. Gets Soc and temp into Insight and Optics A company that will be there when I need them. Too many players in the battery game right now that I do not know of! Only a few that do most all of these for me. Friday ! Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ e-mail offgridso...@sti.net text 209 813 0060 On Fri, 21 May 2021 12:24:11 -0400, Ray wrote: > This is the only company I know of that has dealt with the low > temperature charging issue. Its a great product, and the blue tooth > monitoring is an excellent feature too. This is what the other Li+ > batteries should be doing. The big down side is they are currently > limited to 12v. Wish they made a 48v pack. > > https://www.lifebluebattery.com/rv-boat-low-temperature-lithium-ion-batteries/index.html > > Ray Walters > Remote Solar > 303 505-8760 > > On 5/21/21 12:12 PM, Larry wrote: >> My personal opinion is that you should not buy any lithium battery >> that does not provide adequate protection for all modes of operation. >> >> Freezing does not damage the battery; charging a frozen battery may >> damage it quickly. Trickle charging the battery is not the solution. >> >> There are two solutions: provide a heat source to keep the batteries >> above freezing or incorporate a temperature controller to disable the >> charger if the battery is unsafe to charge. >> >> Larry Crutcher >> >> >>> On May 21, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Mark Frye wrote: >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> If I have a charger that does not have low battery charge cut-off, I >>> can get in trouble if I have a frozen pack and apply a charging voltage. >>> >>> But, if I start with a pack that is above freezing and keep a >>> trickle charge on it, can I keep that pack safe from freezing and damage? >>> >>> Or at some point, as ambient temperature drops, the pack will freeze >>> and be damaged anyway? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mark Frye >>> >>> >>> ___ >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try >> the other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches
Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePo4 Low Temp Charging Damage
Discover Lithium Pro. Available in a few weeks. Game changer > On Jun 5, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Chris Worcester wrote: > > Check out Battle Born Batteries out of Reno, they have heater kits available > for their LiFePO4 100 ah batteries. Just came out with a 280 ah 8D size, > don't see a heater kit for it yet. Will check back in with them soon to see > if it's on the shelf. > > Chris Worcester > Solar Wind Works > NABCEP PV Installation Professional > Cell 530-448-9692 > www.solarwindworks.com > ch...@solarwindworks.com > > -Original Message- > From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of > Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:33 PM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePo4 Low Temp Charging Damage > > I can think of a few other things for the wish list! l Closed loop charging > with multiple sources. > Robust BMS design to not be a new source of power failures Offgrid. > Spare BMS for sale with product that is servicable. > Gets Soc and temp into Insight and Optics A company that will be there when I > need them. Too many players in the battery game right now that I do not know > of! Only a few that do most all of these for me. > > Friday ! > > Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar > "we go where powerlines don't" > http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ > e-mail offgridso...@sti.net > text 209 813 0060 > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 12:24:11 -0400, Ray wrote: >> This is the only company I know of that has dealt with the low >> temperature charging issue. Its a great product, and the blue tooth >> monitoring is an excellent feature too. This is what the other Li+ >> batteries should be doing. The big down side is they are currently >> limited to 12v. Wish they made a 48v pack. >> >> > https://www.lifebluebattery.com/rv-boat-low-temperature-lithium-ion-batteries/index.html >> >> Ray Walters >> Remote Solar >> 303 505-8760 >> >> On 5/21/21 12:12 PM, Larry wrote: >>> My personal opinion is that you should not buy any lithium battery >>> that does not provide adequate protection for all modes of operation. >>> >>> Freezing does not damage the battery; charging a frozen battery may >>> damage it quickly. Trickle charging the battery is not the solution. >>> >>> There are two solutions: provide a heat source to keep the batteries >>> above freezing or incorporate a temperature controller to disable the >>> charger if the battery is unsafe to charge. >>> >>> Larry Crutcher >>> >>> On May 21, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Mark Frye > wrote: Folks, If I have a charger that does not have low battery charge cut-off, I can get in trouble if I have a frozen pack and apply a charging > voltage. But, if I start with a pack that is above freezing and keep a trickle charge on it, can I keep that pack safe from freezing and damage? Or at some point, as ambient temperature drops, the pack will freeze and be damaged anyway? Thanks, Mark Frye ___ >>> ___ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try >>> the other: >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >>> >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try > the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http:
