Re: [RBW] duomatic

[Reed Kennedy]

After breaking my first Sturmey S3X three speed fix hub I was super excited
by the prospect of replacing it with a S2c duomatic kick shift hub. I went
out to Mission Bicycles here in San Francisco where they even had a
S2-hubed-bike (the one without the coaster brake) in stock.

They were happy to let me try it out, but they warned it was not the most
user friendly of things. Hard to shift, and hard to know if you shifted,
they said.

Pah! I said. I'm sure an old hand like myself will have no troubles! And off
I went.

Indeed, by the time I got back (a couple miles later) I could shift reliably
50-75% of the time. I was feeling quite accomplished.

Then I thought: How much do I really want a heavy, inefficient, difficult to
operate, potentially fragile hub that only gives a 38% range?

No Duomatics for me, thanks. I'll stick with either a true single speed or a
bigger range, like a Sturmey 5 or a Alfine 8.

(Or, if you are looking for something silly, a S3X. My second one now has 30
miles on it and is doing fine so far.)


Best,
Reed

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM, jandrews_nyc wrote:

> Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new
> Simpleone?
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[RBW] Re: duomatic

[Reed Kennedy]

How did it break? Well, I did some things with it that I arguably should not
have:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edrabbit/5682255789/in/faves-sofauxboho/
Which lead to problems:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edrabbit/5682260605/in/set-72157626511121539/

While resist-pedaling on the downslope of one of those mounds my S3X low
gear (a 43 or so incher) let go. A couple miles later my middle gear gave up
as well, leaving me with only top.

The shop I bought it from said that one should be able to skid the rear
wheel on that hub and replaced it with an entirely new hand-built wheel.

It seems either the original hub was bad, it was adjusted wrong, or the
cable stretched and it went out of adjustment. My money is on that last one.

So far the new one has about 40 miles on it and it has behaved well so far,
though I'll admit I'm rather babying at the moment.

Just remember that the rougher you're going the more certain you have to be
that your hub is adjusted perfectly.

Oh, and remember these things have significant drive train lash. If you buy
one without knowing that you'll likely be disappointed.

But I like mine!

Reed


On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Reed, how did your S3X break? I was just looking at doing some
> silly things to mine, which got me wondering if there was a gear that
> would be too low for the internals.
>
>  Philip
>
>  Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com
>
> On May 7, 2:59 pm, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
> > After breaking my first Sturmey S3X three speed fix hub I was super
> excited
> > by the prospect of replacing it with a S2c duomatic kick shift hub. I
> went
> > out to Mission Bicycles here in San Francisco where they even had a
> > S2-hubed-bike (the one without the coaster brake) in stock.
> >
> > They were happy to let me try it out, but they warned it was not the most
> > user friendly of things. Hard to shift, and hard to know if you shifted,
> > they said.
> >
> > Pah! I said. I'm sure an old hand like myself will have no troubles! And
> off
> > I went.
> >
> > Indeed, by the time I got back (a couple miles later) I could shift
> reliably
> > 50-75% of the time. I was feeling quite accomplished.
> >
> > Then I thought: How much do I really want a heavy, inefficient, difficult
> to
> > operate, potentially fragile hub that only gives a 38% range?
> >
> > No Duomatics for me, thanks. I'll stick with either a true single speed
> or a
> > bigger range, like a Sturmey 5 or a Alfine 8.
> >
> > (Or, if you are looking for something silly, a S3X. My second one now has
> 30
> > miles on it and is doing fine so far.)
> >
> > Best,
> > Reed
> >
> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM, jandrews_nyc  >wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new
> > > Simpleone?
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[RBW] Re: ISO: 32 hole Sturmey Archer S3X hub, later model

[Reed Kennedy]

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 12:39:11 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>
> The S3X was a very brief explosion: years of anticipation; a couple of 
> years of immense interest; then oblivion. Why is that?
>

Well, I can tell you that at least for me they did not work very well. 
Rather dredging up vague memories, I'll link to the review I wrote at the 
time:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R26ADRBEXQJ6XF

I can't say for sure that the shop I bought mine from stopped carrying them 
because of all the money they lost on me, but I can tell you they did stop 
carrying them shortly after my little adventure.

I noticed you specified that you wanted a "later model" hub. I hope they 
improved them! Please check in after 6 months if it's still working? I 
still love the idea...


Best,
Reed
 

> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have one for sale or trade? I looked all last year for 
>> commercial sources to no avail.
>>
>> I say "later model" meaning, not the first issue, which scuttlebutt says 
>> had wear problems.
>>
>> Thanks, Patrick
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[RBW] Thoughts on tubeless?

[Reed Kennedy]

I've been loving my new-to-me Hunqapillar, but I gotta say it does feel a 
bit sluggish at times with 2.15" Schwalbe Big Bens on there. 

I'm going to give the lighter Schwalbe Big Ones a shot. It looks like the 
ones I've ordered are tubeless-compatible, so I was thinking of giving that 
a shot. Anyone who's tried it willing to share their thoughts?

Also, is Stans No Tubes the way to go, or is there a better option?


Best,
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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on tubeless?

[Reed Kennedy]

The rims are Velocity Dyads, circa 2011 I believe. Since they're from a 
while ago I doubt they're tubeless compatible, but I have no idea how to 
tell if they're easily converted. Any suggestions?

And thanks for the advice (and you too Mike)! Sign me up for Orange Seal. 
Since I won't be getting the Stans kit, any advice on what other stuff I'll 
need? Valves and rim strips and all that? What are you using?


Best,
Reed

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 5:06:13 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote:
>
> What rims are you running?
> That has always been the deciding factor for me.   If they are tubeless 
> compatible or easily convertable, most definately go for it.   And I agree 
> with Mike in WA, use orange seal.Stans can work, but lately I've only 
> been using it in my tubes as a preventative.Orange Seal just seems to 
> work easier.   
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Reed Kennedy  > wrote:
>
>> I've been loving my new-to-me Hunqapillar, but I gotta say it does feel a 
>> bit sluggish at times with 2.15" Schwalbe Big Bens on there. 
>>
>> I'm going to give the lighter Schwalbe Big Ones a shot. It looks like the 
>> ones I've ordered are tubeless-compatible, so I was thinking of giving that 
>> a shot. Anyone who's tried it willing to share their thoughts?
>>
>> Also, is Stans No Tubes the way to go, or is there a better option?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on tubeless?

[Reed Kennedy]

Yup, this one is a 64cm Hunq with 700c wheels. And double yup! I would buy 
a puffy/smooth 700c Compass tire in a hot minute! One can dream...


Reed

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 9:47:07 AM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> Rat Trap Passes are the best on my hunq. But I have 26" wheels and sounds 
> like you might be 700c? Compass really needs a wide 700c/29er. 
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 9:30:22 AM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> The rims are Velocity Dyads, circa 2011 I believe. Since they're from a 
>> while ago I doubt they're tubeless compatible, but I have no idea how to 
>> tell if they're easily converted. Any suggestions?
>>
>> And thanks for the advice (and you too Mike)! Sign me up for Orange Seal. 
>> Since I won't be getting the Stans kit, any advice on what other stuff I'll 
>> need? Valves and rim strips and all that? What are you using?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 5:06:13 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote:
>>>
>>> What rims are you running?
>>> That has always been the deciding factor for me.   If they are tubeless 
>>> compatible or easily convertable, most definately go for it.   And I agree 
>>> with Mike in WA, use orange seal.Stans can work, but lately I've only 
>>> been using it in my tubes as a preventative.Orange Seal just seems to 
>>> work easier.   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been loving my new-to-me Hunqapillar, but I gotta say it does feel 
>>>> a bit sluggish at times with 2.15" Schwalbe Big Bens on there. 
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to give the lighter Schwalbe Big Ones a shot. It looks like 
>>>> the ones I've ordered are tubeless-compatible, so I was thinking of giving 
>>>> that a shot. Anyone who's tried it willing to share their thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Also, is Stans No Tubes the way to go, or is there a better option?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Reed
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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on tubeless?

[Reed Kennedy]

Can you use the thin tubeless rim tape like the WTB WCS that Mike linked on 
rims that weren't designed for tubeless, like my Dyads? Do you just put it 
over traditional cloth rim strips (I currently have Velox) or do you remove 
the old cloth stuff and put the new thin stuff directly on the metal of the 
rim, over the spoke eyelets?

And again, thanks for all the help! I'm slowly catching on here. Sounds 
like a fun project!


Best,
Reed

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 11:15:21 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote:
>
> What you want is (probably multiple) layers of tape to build up a shelf to 
> support and seal the bottom edge of the tire bead.   
> As there isn't a tube, you don't need the deep valley in the rim bed.   
> For valves, just get whatever is cheapest, they don't really do much.
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Mike in WA  > wrote:
>
>> I used the WTB WCS Rim Tape <http://www.jensonusa.com/WTB-TCS-Rim-Tape> 
>> since 
>> I'm using WTB rims, and it has sealed really well. I think the valves are 
>> pretty generic, I just used Stan's valves. You'll also need a valve core 
>> removal tool and I would recommend getting the 4oz bottle of orange seal 
>> for topping up and a 16oz bottle as the main supply you refill with. Makes 
>> injecting the sealant easier using their bottle. You will likely need an 
>> air compressor to get them seated, It's pretty easy with tuebless-ready 
>> tires though. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 9:30:22 AM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> The rims are Velocity Dyads, circa 2011 I believe. Since they're from a 
>>> while ago I doubt they're tubeless compatible, but I have no idea how to 
>>> tell if they're easily converted. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> And thanks for the advice (and you too Mike)! Sign me up for Orange 
>>> Seal. Since I won't be getting the Stans kit, any advice on what other 
>>> stuff I'll need? Valves and rim strips and all that? What are you using?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Reed
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 5:06:13 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What rims are you running?
>>>> That has always been the deciding factor for me.   If they are tubeless 
>>>> compatible or easily convertable, most definately go for it.   And I agree 
>>>> with Mike in WA, use orange seal.Stans can work, but lately I've only 
>>>> been using it in my tubes as a preventative.Orange Seal just seems to 
>>>> work easier.   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been loving my new-to-me Hunqapillar, but I gotta say it does 
>>>>> feel a bit sluggish at times with 2.15" Schwalbe Big Bens on there. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to give the lighter Schwalbe Big Ones a shot. It looks like 
>>>>> the ones I've ordered are tubeless-compatible, so I was thinking of 
>>>>> giving 
>>>>> that a shot. Anyone who's tried it willing to share their thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, is Stans No Tubes the way to go, or is there a better option?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Reed
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Re: [RBW] FS/FT Odds and Ends

[Reed Kennedy]

I'll take that crank please! Would you let me know the total shipped to
94103?


Best,
Reed

On Saturday, June 11, 2016, Phillip Hathaway  wrote:

> I'm trying to clean up some old projects and have a few items for sale.
> I'm in need of some Bosco bars and a dirt drop stem to finish a couple of
> others and will consider a trade for those if you are interested. I will
> add true shipping price to CONUS if you can't pick up locally in the
> Denver/Boulder area.
>
> I have a Nitto lugged stem. Pretty much as new. $125. Very lightly used
> Sugino crankset 46/36/24, 175 arms. Purchased from Riv about 4 years ago.
> I'll probably regret letting it go. $50. Gamoh basket from Riv that is very
> sturdy but I just never liked it on the bike I bought it for and it's been
> sitting a couple of years $40. A Bullmoose bar that came from Riv about 5
> years ago. This is an unfinished bar that I put on a mountain bike project
> for my son. I clear coated the bar but of course that broke down so there
> is some surface rust that would polish out with a little work. Fortunately
> Colorado is a very kind climate for steel. Still probably best if you want
> to paint them or they may have the perfect patina for what you have in
> mind. $40. See the pictures for details or contact me off list with
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

[Reed Kennedy]

What a generous offer Jeff!

I've been meaning to give one of those a try as well! I figure Joe should
get first dibs as the thread starter, but if he's not interested I'd be
happy to pay shipping in order to try the C17 and then pass it on after
I've made up my mind.


Best,
Reed

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Jeff Lesperance 
wrote:

> I've raved about the Cambium C17 and C17 carved a few times, I'm pretty
> sure on this list, though possibly on iBob, or both. Recap:
>
> * With my favorite handlebar and positioning (Noodle, approx. at saddle
> height), B17 saddles were always slightly too wide for me, I settled on
> B17n (narrow) saddles for years.
> * The C17 is great - being slightly narrower than the B17 makes it work on
> my noodle-equipped bikes, and also on my more upright bikes, though I can
> ride a B17 in a more upright position
> * The C17 carved is now my favorite saddle. So much so I used the cutout
> as a pattern to make an old B17n into a carved model. The shape, width and
> cutout really make this saddle disappear under me.
>
> I happen to have a surplus C17 natural at the moment. I'd be willing to
> put it out to the community for testing and passing around if you think you
> can make it work. I don't want to admin anything, but if there are a few of
> you all interested, I'd be happy to send it out to one of you first, and
> then you all have to agree to pass it on down the line. If one of you falls
> in love with it and wants to keep it, I'd be happy to make a favorable deal
> to make it yours. If it hits the end of the line at some point, I can work
> on getting it back. Let me know if any of you want to try a C17 for the
> cost of shipping.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Jon in central Colorado <
> row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the post! I've been wondering about the Cambium saddles and
>> how well people like them.
>> I may have to pull the trigger on one my next build.I love my B-17.
>> Jon
>>
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Re: [RBW] RE: RE: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!! Proposed Ride.

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks for working that out René! I'll be on giant but smooth tires myself
(Schwalbe Big Ones) and may join you on the Pine Mountain bypass route.


Best,
Reed

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:00 PM, René Sterental  wrote:

> For those interested, I updated Hugh's ride with the shorter version
> bypassing the PM segment. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14396260
>
> Metrics:
> 33.5 mi
> Elevation: + 4507 / - 4524 ft
> Max Grade
> 26.2 %
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:57 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
>> Do we have an ETA at the museum?
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 11:01:13 AM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay. Then we'll stick to the 8am ride out. Maybe meet us at the Museum?
>>> Or maybe meet us at the Bon Tempe Dam Rd? Sean shoot me your cell phone #
>>> so we can coordinate the day of.
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, SSL  wrote:
>>>
 Rode up to West Point Inn from SF yesterday to see if I could make it
 in time on the 25th, and I don't think 8:30 would help too much. No worries
 though!

 On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 10:59:27 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> Would 8:30am help?
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 6:03 PM, SSL  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hugh,
>>
>> No worries! 8am might be hard for me. I don't think Bart from
>> Berkeley to SF starts running until around 6 on Saturdays. Might try
>> anyways and see if I can catch up to y'all.
>>
>> -- Sean
>>
>> On Saturday, June 11, 2016 at 11:21:34 AM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sean,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay in responding.
>>>
>>> Since I haven't gotten really zip for feedback regarding my latest
>>> route update I'm going to presume that the route is a go. For those that
>>> feel the full 43 miles would be too much I suggest taking San Geronimo
>>> Ridge just before mile marker 12 which will cut out the Pine Mountain 
>>> loop
>>> but will cut out 9 miles, you still get the Repack descent and we can 
>>> all
>>> meet up at the Museum. To take in account the time differential those 
>>> that
>>> head to Fairfax early can grab a bite to eat in town while the Pine
>>> Mountain crew eat out on the trail.
>>>
>>>  In terms of time I think a 8am roll out would work. That gives us 9
>>> hours to ride visit the museum and get back to the Inn around 5pm.
>>>
>>> How's that sound (crickets) to ya' all.
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Sean Lerner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 When are y'all thinking the ride on Saturday will roll out. I'm
 hoping to ride up from SF in the morning.

 -- Sean

 On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 11:16:20 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> Helps to have a link .
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must
> keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Hugh Smitham 
> wrote:
>
>> Okay how does this look? More Miles still steep but no 40%
>> ascents. Real steep down hills off the peak and again down repack.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must
>> keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 9:37 PM, René Sterental > > wrote:
>>
>>> 40% maximum grade? You've got to be kidding me!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016, Hugh Smitham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Folks,

 I think my post to the original got buried.

 I wanted to throw out this ride as a potential Saturday ride
 from the Inn and back with a stop at the Marin Museum of 
 Bicycling. At
 first glance it looks like a formidable ride 32 miles and 6200' 
 elevation
 but we have all day to do this ride. I purpose we bring a lunch 
 with us and
 eat out on the trail. Of course not all are up for a ride like 
 this. I
 encourage folks to chime in with a 

Re: [RBW] New bike day! Apppaloosa!

[Reed Kennedy]

Gorgeous bike! And yeah, give the fatties a try. I didn't have much fun in
traffic with the heavy 700 x 2.15" Marathons that Riv likes so much, but
when I put a set of Schwalbe Big Ones on, wow! They still spin up nice and
quick, and I feel like a human hovercraft.

Just converted them to tubeless last night, thanks everyone here on the
list for advice. We'll see how that works today!


Reed

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, RoadieRyan  wrote:

> Congrats -new bike day is the best.  And as someone who went from 700x38c
> to 700x47c tires I saw go as fat as you can, its a blast.
>
> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 1:37:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> I finally got my Appaloosa together!  I'm really enjoying this bike!  The
>> main thing I love about it is the lower bottom bracket height.  It's so
>> stable and comfy.  I built it up with a mish-mash of parts: some new, some
>> from my cyclocross bike, some from the ebay, some from the shelves at the
>> LBS!  I'm running 35mm tires now because that's what I have, but I'm going
>> to go fatter soon!  After wanting a Rivendell for 10 years, I am thrilled
>> to have one!
>>
>> Parts list:
>> Paul neo-retro brakes and paul levers
>> Sugino x White Industries cranks
>> VP Vice pedals
>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd x 32 tooth narrow wide chainring (really low gearing!)
>> Sunrace 9 speed thumbshifter
>> Nitto dirt drop stem with albatross bars
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

[Reed Kennedy]

Sounds like a plan. Thanks again to Jeff for the generous experiment!  And
Joe, if you do keep it, all I ask is a detailed review!


Best,
Reed

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> I'll make sure it gets to Reed if I don't end up making a 'buy' deal with
> Jeff first. Thanks for the road test!
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[RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[Reed Kennedy]

I've been a Rivvy sorta guy for the last ten years, owning several of their
bikes and numerous others built up in Riv-inspired ways. Recently I've been
reading through back issues of Bicycle Quarterly, and back posts on Jan
Heine's blog. It's got me wondering about this whole alternate-universe
practical bike thing he describes, which seems to be characterized by low
trail steering geometry, flexible frames, and carrying loads up front.

I'd love to try it, but such bikes aren't exactly common.

Does anyone have experience with both Rivvy (mid-trail, burly rigid frame,
carrying stuff all over) and the more French rando / Jan sort of bike? What
did you think of each?


Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks very much for the thoughts, Bill! You described exactly the sort of
experience I was hoping to hear about.

I'm currently considering training for a couple brevets. I've never done
one, and it both seems like an interesting challenge and a good training
goal. At the moment the two most appropriate (or perhaps I should say least
inappropriate) bikes I own for such a thing are a drop bar'd Hunqapillar
and an old 2004 Madone race bike that was given to me and then ignored. I'm
concerned that the Hunq is overbuilt for randonneuring and that the Madone
would simply be unpleasant. But then, I'm also concerned I'm just looking
for an excuse to buy another bike!

Do you feel randonneuring benefits hugely from a purpose-built bike, or
should I just go for it with what I have?


Best,
Reed

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Reed asked:
>
> Does anyone have experience with both Rivvy (mid-trail, burly rigid frame,
> carrying stuff all over) and the more French rando / Jan sort of bike? What
> did you think of each?
>
> Yes I do.  I think both are fine.  Some people feel like it's a night and
> day kind of difference, and I don't feel that way.  My two low-trail bikes
> are both Rawlands.  I have their road model, the Nordavinden, and their
> 650b rando model, the Stag.  My Stag is still my primary brevet bike and
> it's terrific.  I did a lot of brevets on a 650B A Homer Hilsen before that
> and it was great, too, but I felt it was somewhat overbuilt for that
> brevet-only use.  Let me know if you want to check out my Nordavinden (it's
> a 58-59 Large).  I used that as a platform to just explore the concepts,
> and I feel like I've learned what I needed to learn.  Most recently I had
> braze-on centerpulls attached to see what the fuss was about.  I'm now
> moving my road bike exploration towards contemporary gravel bike concepts.
>
> I'm a big fan of front loading in general.  I put stuff in saddle bags
> only as a last resort.  I think front loading works great for me on high
> trail and low trail.  In my experience a low trail bike unloaded is still
> fine.
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 3:24:31 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> I've been a Rivvy sorta guy for the last ten years, owning several of
>> their bikes and numerous others built up in Riv-inspired ways. Recently
>> I've been reading through back issues of Bicycle Quarterly, and back posts
>> on Jan Heine's blog. It's got me wondering about this whole
>> alternate-universe practical bike thing he describes, which seems to be
>> characterized by low trail steering geometry, flexible frames, and carrying
>> loads up front.
>>
>> I'd love to try it, but such bikes aren't exactly common.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with both Rivvy (mid-trail, burly rigid
>> frame, carrying stuff all over) and the more French rando / Jan sort of
>> bike? What did you think of each?
>>
>>
>> Reed
>>
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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[Reed Kennedy]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> On 06/14/2016 06:23 PM, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
>> I've been a Rivvy sorta guy for the last ten years, owning several of
>> their bikes and numerous others built up in Riv-inspired ways. Recently
>> I've been reading through back issues of Bicycle Quarterly, and back posts
>> on Jan Heine's blog. It's got me wondering about this whole
>> alternate-universe practical bike thing he describes, which seems to be
>> characterized by low trail steering geometry, flexible frames, and carrying
>> loads up front.
>>
>> I'd love to try it, but such bikes aren't exactly common.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with both Rivvy (mid-trail, burly rigid
>> frame, carrying stuff all over) and the more French rando / Jan sort of
>> bike? What did you think of each?
>>
>
> Yes indeed.  I sold a Rambouillet to get a Johnny Coast-built Velo Orange
> Randonneur, and I sold a Saluki to get one of Mitch Pryor's MAP
> Randonneurs.  In each case I went from OS Riv tubing and high trail
> geometry to standard diameter thinner gauge and low trail geometry.  I
> liked the Rivs, but I like the "BQ style" bikes a lot better.


Great feedback, thanks Steve!

Mind if I ask what you think of the MAP Randonneur, and which wheel size
yours is in? I've actually found a used Map Randonneur in my size and for
sale near me. I'm awfully tempted, but had been hoping for a 650 x 42 wheel
and tire, and this one is set up for 700 x 32.


Best,
Reed


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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[Reed Kennedy]

Isn't that the truth Bill! Thanks for the advice. I think I'll finally sell
that Madone and aim to train for and do my first brevet on the Hunqapillar.
Then, if I like it, I'll start scheming around a low trail bike for brevets.

Plus, that'll give me some good time to dream about what my
ideal randonneuring bike would be like!


Best,
Reed

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Everything is best served with another bike.  N+1.  Always N+1.  The
> correct question to ask yourself is NOT : "Do I need another bike?"  The
> correct question is : "What should my next bike be?"  :-)
>
> If I had the choice of doing a brevet on a drop-bar Hunqapillar that I
> bought for myself and set up to my liking, or a hand-me-down Madone, I
> would almost certainly choose to do the brevet on the Hunqapillar.
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 4:01:30 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Thanks very much for the thoughts, Bill! You described exactly the sort
>> of experience I was hoping to hear about.
>>
>> I'm currently considering training for a couple brevets. I've never done
>> one, and it both seems like an interesting challenge and a good training
>> goal. At the moment the two most appropriate (or perhaps I should say least
>> inappropriate) bikes I own for such a thing are a drop bar'd Hunqapillar
>> and an old 2004 Madone race bike that was given to me and then ignored. I'm
>> concerned that the Hunq is overbuilt for randonneuring and that the Madone
>> would simply be unpleasant. But then, I'm also concerned I'm just looking
>> for an excuse to buy another bike!
>>
>> Do you feel randonneuring benefits hugely from a purpose-built bike, or
>> should I just go for it with what I have?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> Reed asked:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with both Rivvy (mid-trail, burly rigid
>>> frame, carrying stuff all over) and the more French rando / Jan sort of
>>> bike? What did you think of each?
>>>
>>> Yes I do.  I think both are fine.  Some people feel like it's a night
>>> and day kind of difference, and I don't feel that way.  My two low-trail
>>> bikes are both Rawlands.  I have their road model, the Nordavinden, and
>>> their 650b rando model, the Stag.  My Stag is still my primary brevet bike
>>> and it's terrific.  I did a lot of brevets on a 650B A Homer Hilsen before
>>> that and it was great, too, but I felt it was somewhat overbuilt for that
>>> brevet-only use.  Let me know if you want to check out my Nordavinden (it's
>>> a 58-59 Large).  I used that as a platform to just explore the concepts,
>>> and I feel like I've learned what I needed to learn.  Most recently I had
>>> braze-on centerpulls attached to see what the fuss was about.  I'm now
>>> moving my road bike exploration towards contemporary gravel bike concepts.
>>>
>>> I'm a big fan of front loading in general.  I put stuff in saddle bags
>>> only as a last resort.  I think front loading works great for me on high
>>> trail and low trail.  In my experience a low trail bike unloaded is still
>>> fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 3:24:31 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been a Rivvy sorta guy for the last ten years, owning several of
>>>> their bikes and numerous others built up in Riv-inspired ways. Recently
>>>> I've been reading through back issues of Bicycle Quarterly, and back posts
>>>> on Jan Heine's blog. It's got me wondering about this whole
>>>> alternate-universe practical bike thing he describes, which seems to be
>>>> characterized by low trail steering geometry, flexible frames, and carrying
>>>> loads up front.
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to try it, but such bikes aren't exactly common.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have experience with both Rivvy (mid-trail, burly rigid
>>>> frame, carrying stuff all over) and the more French rando / Jan sort of
>>>> bike? What did you think of each?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reed
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] New bike day! Apppaloosa!

[Reed Kennedy]

Sure thing Patrick. At the moment I've finally managed to patch a hole in
one of the tires and have just gotten the air to stay inside. Current plan
is to test them over the next week and a half and then ride them on the
West Point Inn Riv Ramble if they hold up. Once I get home from that I
should have enough miles on them to form at least an initial opinion. I'll
try to remember to write up some impressions.



Best,
Reed

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'll be very interested to hear your impressions of the improvement in
> ride between tubed and tubeless. In my very limited experience with 1.35 mm
> Kojaks, going from tubed to tubeless (light but otherwise standard butyl
> tubes) is almost like swapping said Kojaks with tubes for Compass Elk Pass
> extra lights with tubes.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
>
>> Gorgeous bike! And yeah, give the fatties a try. I didn't have much fun
>> in traffic with the heavy 700 x 2.15" Marathons that Riv likes so much, but
>> when I put a set of Schwalbe Big Ones on, wow! They still spin up nice and
>> quick, and I feel like a human hovercraft.
>>
>> Just converted them to tubeless last night, thanks everyone here on the
>> list for advice. We'll see how that works today!
>>
>>
>> Reed
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, RoadieRyan  wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats -new bike day is the best.  And as someone who went from
>>> 700x38c to 700x47c tires I saw go as fat as you can, its a blast.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 1:37:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A_HSaKdJZ3M/V18Vp9Gt7eI/AvA/zY_fKmhjuOk1CEVzQ7FAB23IT7LazL8ZACKgB/s1600/IMG-20160612-01773.jpg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YSLptbPeHDA/V18VoiIiNpI/AvA/oEL3JqXZP_cWj9VkJxQ2oWoVcUAepluVgCKgB/s1600/IMG-20160601-01754.jpg>
>>>> I finally got my Appaloosa together!  I'm really enjoying this bike!
>>>> The main thing I love about it is the lower bottom bracket height.  It's so
>>>> stable and comfy.  I built it up with a mish-mash of parts: some new, some
>>>> from my cyclocross bike, some from the ebay, some from the shelves at the
>>>> LBS!  I'm running 35mm tires now because that's what I have, but I'm going
>>>> to go fatter soon!  After wanting a Rivendell for 10 years, I am thrilled
>>>> to have one!
>>>>
>>>> Parts list:
>>>> Paul neo-retro brakes and paul levers
>>>> Sugino x White Industries cranks
>>>> VP Vice pedals
>>>> Wolf Tooth 94bcd x 32 tooth narrow wide chainring (really low gearing!)
>>>> Sunrace 9 speed thumbshifter
>>>> Nitto dirt drop stem with albatross bars
>>>>
>>>> m
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[Reed Kennedy]

Hey René, are you sure about the 40mm trail on the Hunqapillar? This image
on Riv's site:
http://www.rivbike.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/WFHunq62.jpg
(From the Hunq page: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hunqapillar.htm )
Seems to indicate a massive-sounding 67.3mm trail. Or is that talking about
some other sort of trail, or measuring it differently?

I'd assumed that my Hunqapillar borders on being quite-high-trail. But if
it really is 40mm and the others we've been talking about are but 1cm less,
well, that doesn't seem like so much...

Would you mind letting me know where you found the 40mm number for the Hunq?


Best,
Reed

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 2:07 PM, René Sterental  wrote:

> Hi Garth,
>
> After my extensive research and e-mail exchanges with Jan, plus my
> experience with my Atlantis & Hunqapillar, for upright riding, the low
> trail target should be 40mm. The Rando bikes depicted usually have around
> 29mm of trail, meant for more forward positioning/fast riding with lower
> handlebars.
>
> The Atlantis/Hunqapillar have 40mm of trail and ride very well loaded and
> unloaded; riding them loaded is amazingly nice.
>
> For my custom, I requested 35mm of trail to have a bit more of the "pure
> low trail" characteristics and also because i'm now riding with my bars
> almost level with my saddle.
>
> Still, if in doubt, 40mm seems to be the magical most versatile low trail
> number to go for. And all caveats about getting used to what you ride apply.
>
> Also, the difference in handling between 30 and 40mm of trail is much less
> than the difference between 40 and 55, according to Jan's articles.
>
> René
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:29 AM, Garth  wrote:
>
>>
>>   While I see lots about low trail bikes with drop bars , I have not
>> heard/seen much about riding on low trail bikes with long sloping top
>> tubes(6+ degrees) and high bars(at least above the saddle height).
>> Basically a much higher center of gravity than a drop bar bike.  A recent
>> blug post GP mentioned something about this not being so desirable but did
>> not elaborate.
>>
>>So basically I'm wondering how a Bombadil or Hunq would be with Alba
>> type bars at least couple inches above the saddle would be ?
>>
>> I've considered another Bombadil or even a Hunq type frame but I need
>> more front foot-tire/fender clearance than either stock bike offers in
>> 60+cm. frames.  I could do this by either going to a low trail design
>> and/or 650b wheels but I have no idea how it would ride.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks everyone for the extremely educational thoughts, comments, and
experiences that have been shared here! I'm somewhat abashed to neglected
the search feature and to have started another round of what sounds like a
well discussed thread, but I've just loved reading what everyone was kind
enough to write. What great information!

It does sound like there is something to the whole low trail thing. I'm
going to try to find one to take for a ride see how they feel to me in
person. N+1 bikes, as always!


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Pondero  wrote:

> Reed, I currently have two Rivs (Hilsen and QB) and an Ocean Air Cycles
> Rambler.  I love them all.  To me the differences are subtle in the sense
> that they all ride like bicycles, but the differences are significant when
> it comes to how they handle/feel under different riding conditions.  For
> example, I love the sensations of my Rivs on a descent, and I appreciate
> how front loads have almost no impact on the handling of my Rambler.  I
> tried front loads on my Rivs but it felt to me like the wheel flop was
> amplified and took away from the delightful feel of the steering when rear
> loaded.  So I decided I wanted to try a low trail design frameset.  The
> Rambler handles front loads wonderfully, and I have come to enjoy the
> convenience of having things "right there".  As a small, light rider, I
> also enjoy the livelier/more flexible standard diameter tubing.  Lately,
> and for how I like to use a bicycle, my Rambler has been my ace.  But I
> could easily be happy with any one of my bikes if forced to own only one.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

[Reed Kennedy]

Ah, thanks David! I'd missed that detail. What an interesting way to try
lower trail. I'm going to consider giving that a go...


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> I believe Rene had custom forks built with higher rake than the Riv stock
> fork, yielding lower trail.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 1:17:13 PM UTC-5, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Hey René, are you sure about the 40mm trail on the Hunqapillar? This
>> image on Riv's site:
>> http://www.rivbike.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/WFHunq62.jpg
>> (From the Hunq page: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hunqapillar.htm )
>> Seems to indicate a massive-sounding 67.3mm trail. Or is that talking
>> about some other sort of trail, or measuring it differently?
>>
>> I'd assumed that my Hunqapillar borders on being quite-high-trail. But if
>> it really is 40mm and the others we've been talking about are but 1cm less,
>> well, that doesn't seem like so much...
>>
>> Would you mind letting me know where you found the 40mm number for the
>> Hunq?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 2:07 PM, René Sterental 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Garth,
>>>
>>> After my extensive research and e-mail exchanges with Jan, plus my
>>> experience with my Atlantis & Hunqapillar, for upright riding, the low
>>> trail target should be 40mm. The Rando bikes depicted usually have around
>>> 29mm of trail, meant for more forward positioning/fast riding with lower
>>> handlebars.
>>>
>>> The Atlantis/Hunqapillar have 40mm of trail and ride very well loaded
>>> and unloaded; riding them loaded is amazingly nice.
>>>
>>> For my custom, I requested 35mm of trail to have a bit more of the "pure
>>> low trail" characteristics and also because i'm now riding with my bars
>>> almost level with my saddle.
>>>
>>> Still, if in doubt, 40mm seems to be the magical most versatile low
>>> trail number to go for. And all caveats about getting used to what you ride
>>> apply.
>>>
>>> Also, the difference in handling between 30 and 40mm of trail is much
>>> less than the difference between 40 and 55, according to Jan's articles.
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:29 AM, Garth  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>   While I see lots about low trail bikes with drop bars , I have not
>>>> heard/seen much about riding on low trail bikes with long sloping top
>>>> tubes(6+ degrees) and high bars(at least above the saddle height).
>>>> Basically a much higher center of gravity than a drop bar bike.  A recent
>>>> blug post GP mentioned something about this not being so desirable but did
>>>> not elaborate.
>>>>
>>>>So basically I'm wondering how a Bombadil or Hunq would be with Alba
>>>> type bars at least couple inches above the saddle would be ?
>>>>
>>>> I've considered another Bombadil or even a Hunq type frame but I need
>>>> more front foot-tire/fender clearance than either stock bike offers in
>>>> 60+cm. frames.  I could do this by either going to a low trail design
>>>> and/or 650b wheels but I have no idea how it would ride.
>>>>
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[RBW] FS: Two Rivvy bikes, one not, all big

[Reed Kennedy]

I've fallen in love with my Hunqapillar and have decided to part with a few
bikes I haven't ridden recently.

First, a Bike Friday folding touring bike that I had custom made and then
upgraded to be as Riv-ish as I could manage:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/5641095552.html

Second, a RockCombo that has remained almost unmolested. This is the only
production bike, other than the MB-0, ever to be sold with drop bars:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/5641112197.html

Finally and least interestingly, here is a old Trek Madone that used to
belong to Gary Fisher:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/5640961497.html

You can tell how much I like each bike by how unrealistic my price is. I
fear I may be dreaming a bit on the Friday and the RockCombo, but they're
just both such darn nice bikes. Anyway, feel free to make a thoughtful
offer if you're interested.

All bikes are in my garage in San Francisco, ready to be whisked off to new
adventures.


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] FS: Two Rivvy bikes, one not, all big

[Reed Kennedy]

Ah, dang! You're totally right Joe. I crossed 'em up. How embarrassing!

I've fixed the CL post.

And rest assured, the bikes are better than my faulty writing!


Reed

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Not to be a stickler for detail - ok, I'm being a stickler for detail -
> the dropbar mtb Bstone was the MB-1 circa '87-ish. MB-Zip was a
> stupid-light TIGed flatbar mtb which people broke a lot.
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Re: [RBW] Soma Xpress Wear

[Reed Kennedy]

My Panaracer Pasaelas (same maker, very similar tire) wear the same way. I
generally run them until I can either see a bit of cords or until they
start getting flats more often than I care to deal with. Though on the
Pasaelas the tan sidewalls usually give out before either of those happen.

Anyway, no need to toss them for lack to tread pattern! I actually like
them better once that has worn away.


Best,
Reed

On Saturday, June 18, 2016, Call Me Jay  wrote:

> I have about 850 miles on these tires.  The file tread pattern is worn
> away in the rear and almost gone in the front.  The profile remains round.
> What's the best practice? Continue riding until the round profile flattens
> out or replace now? I use the tires for commuting, dirt roads and typical
> road rides.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Two Rivvy bikes, one not, all big

[Reed Kennedy]

If only it fit me, Joe!

This is actually my second RockCombo. I sold the first because it was just
a bit too small for my 94cm PBH. But then I missed it far to much and
bought this one. Which, of course, is the same size.

Time for it to to someone a bit more reasonably sized!


Reed

On Monday, June 20, 2016, Joe Bunik  wrote:

> Reed,
> You all know I love that RockCombo and completely approve this
> posting. However I cannot condone its sale.
> =- Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> On 6/17/16, Reed Kennedy > wrote:
> > Ah, dang! You're totally right Joe. I crossed 'em up. How embarrassing!
> >
> > I've fixed the CL post.
> >
> > And rest assured, the bikes are better than my faulty writing!
> >
> >
> > Reed
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Joe Bernard  > wrote:
> >
> >> Not to be a stickler for detail - ok, I'm being a stickler for detail -
> >> the dropbar mtb Bstone was the MB-1 circa '87-ish. MB-Zip was a
> >> stupid-light TIGed flatbar mtb which people broke a lot.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos questions....

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On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Rob H.  wrote:

> 
> Also don't know if you're in the SF Bay Area but there was someone trying
> to sell a built up 51cm SM on CL. I think they were in the South Bay
> possibly a bike shop. At any rate, the listing expired (not deleted) so it
> might pop up again and if you've got the cajones you could go give it a
> test ride / kick the tires so to speak.
>

It was A Bicycle Odyssey up in Sausalito. No idea if they still have it,
but it's probably worth a phone call!

I remember the build looking pretty solid.


Best,
Reed


> On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 7:00:22 AM UTC-7, PineTarSoap wrote:
>>
>> I would like to get my first Riv bike. I mainly plan to commute with this
>> bike (17 mi roundtrip, hills) and do the occasional road ride. I have a
>> neck pain issue and I am hoping a more upright position and fatter tires
>> will help. I have a nice carbon road bike for fast rides, but I would like
>> to mix in a bike with a different position to take stress off my neck. I
>> don't plan right now on doing any off-road riding or touring.
>>
>> I have tested ridden the Hunq, Cheviot, and Sam. They were all fun, but I
>> thought the Sam probably seemed the most appropriate. But I didn't get a
>> chance to ride a Soma SM. The Riv description is that is like a more well
>> rounded Rodeo, which seems to fit what I would use it for. I suppose a
>> Rodeo would as well but at more cost.
>>
>> Questions:
>> 1) Does the Soma sound like the right choice for me?
>> 2) Do they still sell this frame? If you google search it, the Riv page
>> is the first listed, but you can't find it on their frames page.
>> 3) My PBH is 78 (just) and so I guess I am in the 51 cm range, however
>> the 51 cm Sam didn't leave much crotch room. Would a 47 cm work? Seems odd
>> to me that the size down from 51 is a big jump to 47.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos questions....

[Reed Kennedy]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Chris Birkenmaier 
wrote:

> I have to echo Sean's comment.  Given the relative price break in the Soma
> for something designed by Riv and with Riv quality ride, I too am puzzled
> by the lack of sales for this model.  The bike clearly exceeded my
> expectations!
>

I suspect the San Marcos suffered from not having much of anybody to
promote it.

   - I don't remember Rivendell extolling its virtues as much as they have
   bikes that are more fully theirs. Grant has said that Riv only got $6 per
   frame sold elsewhere. It also represented a direction (speedy) that Riv has
   moved away from a bit since then. I get the impression Riv hoped it would
   be an inexpensive Rivvy bike, but it ended up costing almost as much as a
   "real" Riv. They seem to have accomplished this goal better with the Clem
   and the Sam complete, which tend to come in at (or below) the cost of a
   built San Marcos, and both of which (I hope) make more money for Riv.
   - LBSes were never (as far as I know) offered the San Marcos as a
   complete bike. Its a rare LBS that is going to build up a bare frame
   without a customer directing the build. It's a lot more work, and a
   significant financial risk.
   - SOMA didn't seem to push it much either. I don't know why they didn't
   offer it as a complete as they have other bikes, or do anything else to
   actually get them out into the retail channel.

It almost seems like the San Marcos was somebody's pet project that kind of
lost steam. I'd love to know more about how the San Marcos project went at
SOMA / Merry Sales and how many were sold, but for now I'll just keep
wondering.

Whatever happened, it sure did result in a lovely bicycle!


Reed



> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 9:57:33 AM UTC-4, se...@austin.utexas.edu
> wrote:
>>
>> I recently acquired a San Marcos and absolutely love it. It has all the
>> Riv ride characteristics at a more manageable price point. Got mine through
>> my local shop directly from SOMA, but I remember at the time they had only
>> a couple of 51cms left. The size is perfect. I am 5'6" with a pbh of 78cm.
>> Soma makes a nice quill stem too that can get the bars up real high
>> (similar neck problems as well). I am running the Soma stem with some
>> flipped Albas and loading on the front (Carradice Barley and Sackville
>> trunksack mounted to a Mark's rack) and it handles perfectly fine.
>> Definitely reminds me of my old 2nd generation Rambouillet as far as ride
>> quality is concerned. But being designed for 650b tires and allowing for
>> wider rubber certainly make it a nicer ride. Running Soma new express and
>> they soak up the Texas chip seal no problem. The newer fork is beautiful
>> too with a very elegant bend. I can't believe this frame wasn't more of a
>> top seller for Soma (and Riv). If you can score one from Riv (maybe hidden
>> in the depths of Riv's stockroom) or a shop (American Cyclery?), by all
>> means do it.
>>
>> Sean
>> ATX
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos questions....

[Reed Kennedy]

It's always nice to think about getting something just-as-good for less
money. I believe that's what Grant / Riv were looking to do with the Clem
and Clementine. They've been open about what compromises were required to
get down to that price point, and now folks can choose between a bike with
no compromises, one with some compromises (Appaloosa complete or Hilsen
complete), or one with more, though still thoughtful, compromises (Clem and
Clementine). Everyone is welcome to decide what is important to them, and
what suits their budget.

I don't think anyone will argue that it's not possible to make a somewhat
Rivvish bike for less than $1,300-1,500. I don't think anyone would argue
that a $500 Rivvish bike wouldn't sell quite well. But I imagine actually
doing it would require making compromises that Grant and the other folks at
Riv don't want to make. Some of those compromises are doubtless about parts
quality, frame materials, and fabrication. But I like to think there are
other compromises that Riv chooses not to make regarding arranging fair
deals with their suppliers and making sure the folks who make their bikes
have fair working conditions and decent lives.

When you make something really, truly cheap there are often costs that
aren't apparent in the final product. I like that Riv thinks about that. I
feel better buying things from them because of it.


Best,
Reed

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

> When I think of Bikes Direct, I think of lower cost, though certainly the
> higher levels can get up there a bit.  Even just the Riv build kits are
> more than many BD complete bikes.  Imagine a Riv inspired 21-24 speed
> triple for under $500.  Here's an example of the level I was thinking of:
> http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/gran_premio_s.htm
>
> I don't really have room for a second bike, but if I could get a Riv
> inspired bike (that felt like a Riv) at around that level and price, I
> might get another just to have a spare or to haul around as a beater.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Evan Baird  wrote:
>
>> Isn't Rivendell technically the Bikes Direct Grant Designs? I know they
>> have more dealers now, but it's been mail order since day 1. Don't get me
>> wrong, the San Marcos rides great imo, but the Bleriot was like 95% perfect
>> and I for one was really disappointed that they didn't just re-relase it
>> and just add more fork eyelets. My assumption is that it was intened to
>> fill several gaps in the Riv line without cannibalizing any of their other
>> models, but what Riv customer is going to want to be stuck running 33mm
>> tires with barely any fender clearance. For that matter, why would you use
>> "lightweight" tubing just to slap on a second top tube? If it's just for
>> looks then fine, but using heavier tubing and just having the one makes a
>> lot more sense.
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Re: [RBW] Wife asked me to go on a 2 week bike tour, help!!

[Reed Kennedy]

You've already gotten some great advice here! But here's one more tip that
has served me well in similar circumstances:

Try to find a commercial bike tour operator in the area you're interested
in and see if you can learn about how they do it.

These folks have generally spent years honing their routes, making sure
they go to beautiful and interesting places, and making sure the routes are
accessible. That's how they stay in business!

You might call and say that you're doing a self-supported tour just you and
your wife, but you'd be happy to send them money for a nice dinner or
somesuch if they'd be willing to give you some route advice. Most are run
by bicycle people, and tend to be nice folks.

Here are a few Google told me about:
http://www.atlanticcanadacycling.com/bicycle-tours/newfoundland-bicycle-tour
http://www.freewheeling.ca/adventures/NewfoundlandVikingTrail.html
http://www.pedalandseaadventures.com/newfoundland-viking-trail-bicycle-tour

And most of all, congrats and have a great time!


Best,
Reed


On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Mark Reimer  wrote:

> A few years back I built up a new bike for my wife as a surprise. It was a
> Surly Cross Check with Jack brown 33.3 tires, Nitto Albatross bars, a small
> wald basket, ladies Brook's B17, etc. Very classy build. Black frame, all
> silver parts. I was hoping a nice, well fitting comfortable bike would
> promote more riding together, which it has to a degree. We've done a few
> longer rides together and last summer did our first overnighter, which she
> loved. She's always said that long distance touring probably isn't her
> thing, but after we've completed a couple motorcycle tours and backcountry
> hiking trips together it seems she's developed the urge to transition to
> bicycles... maybe all my cycling adventures have inspired some
> self-propelled wanderlust too, who knows.
>
> Point is, we're sitting on the couch earlier in the week and she says "I
> want to take two weeks off next summer and go on a cycling tour with you".
>
> I felt like I was electrocuted! That's basically my dream.
>
> So here's my questions. I'm well aware of the fact that what I like to do
> on a tour isn't what a lot of other people would like to do. I look for
> single track and dirt roads, don't mind rough terrain and not showering for
> a week. I like doing 100-200km in a day. I love the idea of spending five
> hours climbing a mountain and then screaming down the other side as fast as
> I can possibly go.
>
> If we did that, I don't think she'd ever tour with me again...
>
> For those of you who've toured with your spouse, or with friends who
> aren't as nutty as you in general, what worked? What advice do you have for
> daily distance, elevation, road surface, etc? I know this will be highly
> individual and vary widely based on personal preferences, age, appetite for
> adventure, budgets, etc. For reference, my wife Cindy has done some 100km
> rides and enjoyed them, but I think that would be a bit much for day after
> day mileage. She likes gravel roads, but not trails. Enjoys hiking up
> mountains, but is nervous to attempt cycling up one. She's always been hard
> on the brakes all the way down any hill, but she's since acquired her
> motorcycle license, so all that 100km/h time in the saddle is sure to help
> alleviate the fear of speed.
>
>
> Thus far the best idea we've come up with together is going to
> Newfoundland and touring the western edge. It's a 450km one-way ride that
> crosses Gros Morne National Park, where we would stop to hike for a day or
> two. 450km isn't enough distance for 2 weeks in my opinion. I'd like
> something closer to 750. That way we can have some 100km days, some 30km
> days, a few rest days, etc. So maybe doing this 450km route plus something
> extra. Camping mostly, with a hostel/B&B every 4-5 days to stay fresh,
> mentally and physically. I think it'd have a nice mix of rolling coastal
> roads with light traffic, no high-mountain passes but still some climbing,
> and some good spots to stop for a day.
>
> Any advice is welcomed!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tire wear question. When to replace?

[Reed Kennedy]

Great info, thanks! I've long had theories about how this might go, but
it's great to have images with solid information!

Random thought: I wonder if thinning the outer rubber on a tire could,
under some circumstances, lead to less flatting? Hear me out...

As we can all tell by looking at used tires, the rubber part doesn't
provide much resistance to pictures or cuts. I believe it is the casing
that provides most of the flat resistance. And while you'll sometimes have
something punch all the way through in one go, most of my flats seem to
come from something getting embedded in the rubber and then pushed in
further and further with every rotation of the tire. That's the whole
theory behind tire wipers.

I wonder if less rubber might hold debris less firmly, and the
puncture-causers might be more likely to fall off as you ride. Perhaps
resulting in fewer flats?


Reed

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

>
> Since the tread wore off last summer I told myself I'd keep riding 'til
> the casing started to show or the next flat.
> Been carrying around a spare on rides ever since.
> Ran through a field of glass on a century last weekend and got a flat and
> replaced the tire on the spot.
> Interesting thing is that when I got home, thinking the old tire was worn
> out, I cut it in half to look at the wear to see if I got every penny out
> of it.
>
> No! I think I could have ridden much longer on it. Casing and tread
> thickness at edge of file tread with no wear on that line/area where it
> meets herringbone tread, where you don't ride on it is 2mm. Casing and
> tread in deepest worn area was 1.2mm.
> So, its like I only wore the tread down half way? Unless somehow the
> riding tread was thicker than 2mm? But the squared off area is very narrow
> so not a lot of space to go thicker than 2mm? Wonder how thick it was to
> start.
>
> Pics below. Just for fun I threw in a pic of the foldable bead.:
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tire wear question. When to replace?

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>
> On 06/29/2016 02:20 PM, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Great info, thanks! I've long had theories about how this might go, but
>> it's great to have images with solid information!
>>
>> Random thought: I wonder if thinning the outer rubber on a tire could,
>> under some circumstances, lead to less flatting? Hear me out...
>>
>> As we can all tell by looking at used tires, the rubber part doesn't
>> provide much resistance to pictures or cuts. I believe it is the casing
>> that provides most of the flat resistance. And while you'll sometimes have
>> something punch all the way through in one go, most of my flats seem to
>> come from something getting embedded in the rubber and then pushed in
>> further and further with every rotation of the tire. That's the whole
>> theory behind tire wipers.
>>
>> I wonder if less rubber might hold debris less firmly, and the
>> puncture-causers might be more likely to fall off as you ride. Perhaps
>> resulting in fewer flats?
>>
>>
> Well, if that were true then brand new tires would get flats a lot, and as
> they wore the flats would become less frequent, until at last when the tire
> was completely bald and the casing showing through, they would get no flats
> at all.  But in real life, it happens in exactly the reverse order.


Interesting! I can't say I've observed that. To me, riding in a city with
lots of street debris, flats have generally seemed random. I haven't
noticed any correlation along with my tires being newer or older. But I
haven't been meticulous in my data collection either. It's just the
impression I'm left with.


Reed

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Re: [RBW] FS: Cranksets, triples, half-step

[Reed Kennedy]

I've always wondered who made those cranks with the two-wavy-banner-thing
logo.

Anybody know?

And nice cranks at great prices Rob! I'm sure you'll have no problem
finding them new homes.


Reed

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:17 AM, rob markwardt 
wrote:

> Greetings,
> Some cranks in need of a new home:
>
> Sugino XD2R  170mm,  These were on my Bleriot and are well used.  I was
> going to change the middle ring but ended up changing cranks. Rings might
> still be ok  (46/36/26)..  $25 shipped
>
> Sakae FX 175mm, 50/44/28 - I don't know much about these but they look
> nice.  Good half-step combo. Very good condition.  $45 shipped.
>
> Shimano?? 170mm 50/45/28  Unsure of model but they look mid-80s?  I think
> they were on a Schwinn Voyager.  Some use but should clean up nicely.  More
> half-step possiblities.  $45
>
> pics on my flickr...happy to send more if needed.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/
>
> Thanks,
> Rob Markwardt
> Seattle, WA
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Re: [RBW] FS: Cranksets, triples, half-step

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks Bill! More info than I could have ever dreamed of here:
http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2016/01/old-is-good-specialized-triple-cranks.html

Wish there were 175mm!


Reed

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> sugino was the manufacturer of the famous Specialized "flag" cranks.  It
> was a Specialized design, and Sugino did the manufacturing.  It's a
> legendary crankset.
>
>
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 3:19:18 PM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:
>>
>> I found out they are Specialized...not sure who actually made them.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:23:52 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> I've always wondered who made those cranks with the
>>> two-wavy-banner-thing logo.
>>>
>>> Anybody know?
>>>
>>> And nice cranks at great prices Rob! I'm sure you'll have no problem
>>> finding them new homes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Reed
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:17 AM, rob markwardt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> Some cranks in need of a new home:
>>>>
>>>> Sugino XD2R  170mm,  These were on my Bleriot and are well used.  I was
>>>> going to change the middle ring but ended up changing cranks. Rings might
>>>> still be ok  (46/36/26)..  $25 shipped
>>>>
>>>> Sakae FX 175mm, 50/44/28 - I don't know much about these but they look
>>>> nice.  Good half-step combo. Very good condition.  $45 shipped.
>>>>
>>>> Shimano?? 170mm 50/45/28  Unsure of model but they look mid-80s?  I
>>>> think they were on a Schwinn Voyager.  Some use but should clean up
>>>> nicely.  More half-step possiblities.  $45
>>>>
>>>> pics on my flickr...happy to send more if needed.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rob Markwardt
>>>> Seattle, WA
>>>>
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[RBW] Garage Sale - Nigel Smythe Country Bag repair / upgrade

[Reed Kennedy]

One of the more wonderful items available at yesterday's Rivendell garage
sale were Nigel Smythe Country Bags.

Apparently the first run of these bags had the saddle rail straps and
support dowel quite far back, on the flap of the bag rather than the
enclosed body.

As a result of this, the bag hangs slightly oddly, especially when loaded:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/249889284/
(Not my bag or my photo, credit to Gino.)

The fine folks at Rivendell decided this was unacceptable and declined to
release the bags to the public. The official solution was to comission a
second run of bags with the dowel and saddle straps moved forward, off the
flap.

Yesterday at the garage sale folks were given the opportunity to purchase
the original, slightly flawed bags for only $30. Many were available, and I
think nearly every person there left with one.

Most of the folks I spoke to were entirely untroubled by the way the bags
hang, and planned to simply use them. This was originally my intention as
well, but on the way home I remembered that I own some leatherworking
supplies.

So I decided to see what I could do.

In the end, I decided to sew the flap down an extra inch so that the
dowl-and-seat-strap portion would be fully supported:
http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/2-in_progress.JPG

It worked pretty well!
http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/3-after.JPG
(Compare to Gino's picture above.)

Unless you look very closely, you can hardly tell the bag has been modified:
http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/4-close-up-one.JPG
http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/5-close-up-two.JPG

The only downside that I can see is that the opening is now slightly
smaller:
http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/6-smaller-opening-one.jpg

However, given where it sits relative to my saddle I don't think it could
open much more anyway while on the bike:
http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/7-smaller-opening-saddle.JPG

All in all, I'm very happy with this bag and with my modification. Thanks to
the wonderful folks at Rivendell for the generous deals on such lovely
objects, and also for a idyllic ride.

Cheers,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: Garage Sale - Nigel Smythe Country Bag repair / upgrade

[Reed Kennedy]

A few notes on how I did it and the supplies employed:

I used some quite nice 25lb test wax coated nylon thread designed especially
for stitching leather:
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/1227-03.aspx?feature=Product_3&kw=thread

<http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/1227-03.aspx?feature=Product_3&kw=thread>I'd
encourage anyone contemplating a similar modification to use a product like
that. The thread ends up under quite a load!

I also used this leatherworking awl to expand the existing stitch holes in
the bag:
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/3209-00.aspx?feature=Product_1&kw=awl
<http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/3209-00.aspx?feature=Product_1&kw=awl>Any
sharp narrow awl should do the trick.

Finally, I used these needles:
http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/1195-00.aspx?feature=Product_14&kw=needle
<http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/1195-00.aspx?feature=Product_14&kw=needle>They
are noteworthy because the tips are blunt, which helps your stitch follow
the awl hole.

I'm sure there are ways to do it without these things, but they certainly
made the process much more pleasant.

Cheers,
Reed

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:04 PM, manueljohnacosta <
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Great fix! need to try this i bought 2 bags that I want to fix
>
> On Oct 3, 8:29 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
> > > One of the more wonderful items available at yesterday's Rivendell
> garage
> > > sale were Nigel Smythe Country Bags.
> > > Apparently the first run of these bags had the saddle rail straps and
> > > support dowel quite far back, on the flap of the bag rather than the
> > > enclosed body.
> > > As a result of this, the bag hangs slightly oddly, especially when
> loaded:
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/249889284/
> > > (Not my bag or my photo, credit to Gino.)
> > > The fine folks at Rivendell decided this was unacceptable and declined
> to
> > > release the bags to the public. The official solution was to comission
> a
> > > second run of bags with the dowel and saddle straps moved forward, off
> the
> > > flap.
> > > Yesterday at the garage sale folks were given the opportunity to
> purchase
> > > the original, slightly flawed bags for only $30. Many were available,
> and I
> > > think nearly every person there left with one.
> > > Most of the folks I spoke to were entirely untroubled by the way the
> bags
> > > hang, and planned to simply use them. This was originally my intention
> as
> > > well, but on the way home I remembered that I own some leatherworking
> > > supplies.
> > > So I decided to see what I could do.
> > > In the end, I decided to sew the flap down an extra inch so that the
> > > dowl-and-seat-strap portion would be fully supported:
> > >http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/2-in_progres.
> ..
> > > It worked pretty well!
> > >http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/3-after.JPG
> > > (Compare to Gino's picture above.)
> > > Unless you look very closely, you can hardly tell the bag has been
> modified:
> > >http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/4-close-up-o.
> ..
> > >http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/5-close-up-t.
> ..
> > > The only downside that I can see is that the opening is now slightly
> > > smaller:
> > >http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/6-smaller-op.
> ..
> > > However, given where it sits relative to my saddle I don't think it
> could
> > > open much more anyway while on the bike:
> > >http://notfine.com/pics/nigel_smythe_country_bag_upgrade/7-smaller-op.
> ..
> > > All in all, I'm very happy with this bag and with my modification.
> Thanks to
> > > the wonderful folks at Rivendell for the generous deals on such lovely
> > > objects, and also for a idyllic ride.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Reed
> >
> > Wow, well done - that's a fantastic and beautiful fix.
> >
> > The bag looks great.
> >
> > -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tent advice needed for S24O?

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On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Stuart Fletcher
wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 05:38, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > How many full water bottles does it take to weigh 3 lb?
>
> Oh, me, call on me!  One full 22oz water bottle weighs about 3 pounds.
>  That puts 3 pounds in perspective.  Or makes you want to carry less
> water...
>

Not quite... "A pint's a pound the world around." A pint being 16oz, 22oz of
water weighs a touch under 1.4lbs.

My largest water bottle weighs just under 3oz. It's made by Trek, and I
believe it's a 26oz model.

And finally, that bottle filled with water weighed 1.75lbs.

All in all, I'd say it takes about two full water bottles weigh 3lbs. They
might weigh just a bit more, though.

Cheers,
Reed

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[RBW] What fenders on a Soma San Marcos?

[Reed Kennedy]

I've now got nearly all the parts for my 3 speed Soma San Marcos build!

Anybody know the largest fender this frame will fit? I'm thinking Velo
Orange hammered fenders, but I'm not sure if I should go with the 37mm or
the 45mm.

It'd be dreamy to run 32mm Paselas with fenders if I can get away with it.

(This is a 63cm and will wear Grand Compe 610 brakes, for what it's worth.)


Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: IRD Roller Drive Headset

[Reed Kennedy]

Wow, thanks Lum! I had no idea the A9 was still available new. I'd easily
choose one of those over an IRD Roller Drive.

As a matter of fact, I think I'll buy one just to have as a spare.


Cheers,
Reed

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> I love my IRD roller drive headset.
> But I might get a Stronglight headset from Peter White Cycles next time so
> there will not be a plastic ring on the locknut to break on my next
> headset. I have a VO and 600 headsets with black plastic rings and both
> rings broke. IRD ok so far. But just for all silver and nothing to break I
> might get the Stronglight needle bearing headset from PJW next time. You
> might want to take a look at his website for it if you can’t find your IRD
> for a reasonable price. Stronglight is 60$ I think.
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Re: [RBW] Re: TdF pros are using oversize rear derailer pulleys. Should you? Or, trickle... up? Cycle technology

[Reed Kennedy]

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Brewster Fong  wrote:

> When did Grant come up with this idea?  Large pulleys have been around
> since at least 2013 and possibly earlier:
>

Much earlier, in fact! The first one I'm aware of was the Dura Ace 7700 GS
from 2001:
http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Shimano_Dura-Ace_derailleur_7700_GS.html

Anyone know of anything older?


Best,
Reed
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Re: [RBW] FS: 65 Homer Hilsen F/F/HS

[Reed Kennedy]

Mind measuring the top tube, Ben? The 65cm isn’t listed on the current Riv
geometry charts.

Also, what’s your location? Would you sell in person to someone nearby?

Best,
Reed

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> For your consideration, a 65 Homer Hilsen Frame/Fork/Headset made a
> Waterford. $1000+shipping via Bikeflights
>
> No dents or dings. Some beausage, lost paint chips from normal use.
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[RBW] Fwd: WTB: 700c wheelset with 135mm rear spacing

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks to another list member I have been fortunate enough to adopt an A.
Homer Hilsen. This one wants 700c wheels and the rear is spaced for a 135mm
mountain / touring rear hub.

Anyone have a spare wheelset they're interested in parting with? Preference
is for something at least vaguely on the lighter side and with reasonably
wide rims. Doesn't need a dynamo (though I'd be open to that). Don't care
if the rims are tubeless compatible or not.

Happy to pay $$. Could also trade a super nice Velocity Atlas / Phil Wood
touring wheelset if you're looking to do some offroad riding or loaded
touring.


Reed Kennedy
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Re: [RBW] Fwd: WTB: 700c wheelset with 135mm rear spacing

[Reed Kennedy]

Hey Doug, I think I saw those on Craigslist! Beautiful wheelset, wish
they'd fit my new-to-me AHH, but I don't think there's a brake made that
will 650b-convert a Homer!

Kiley, I'll drop you a line about your wheels, thanks!


Cheers,
Reed

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 9:51 PM Doug Bloch  wrote:

> Reed:
>
> I have a 135mm Riv-built 650b set if you are interested.
>
>  https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/DoLg46MnVC8
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>
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Re: [RBW] FS: 65 Homer Hilsen F/F/HS

[Reed Kennedy]

This one is all mine now. Thanks Ben!

Now I just gotta figure out which parts to build it up with. H...


Reed

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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thought on Dyno vs. asymmetrical battery headlights?

[Reed Kennedy]

I have Schmitt dynamo hubs and Edelux lights on two bikes, and I adore
them. So convenient and simple to use.

I also have another bike with a Shutter Precision hub which has been more
trouble, but is finally working well now.

Surprisingly, all three have all been left unmolested in San Francisco,
even the bike that is often parked outside.

I do have a couple other bikes that I'm often tempted to ride on longer
brevets, but don't because they don't have lights. I just ordered a Ixon IQ
so I'll have the option of riding these, and to have a light to lend to
friends who want to try a brevet without committing to a full lighting
setup. We'll see what I think of it in practice.


Best,
Reed

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> Trouble is, the not-ridden-as-much bike needs to have its battery charged
> for the light to work, and being not-ridden-as-much, is likely to have not
> much charge just when you need it most.
>
> On 08/21/2018 06:22 PM, Collin A wrote:
>
> I agree with Tom's points. A dynamo is great for the all-rounder bikes
> that always gets ridden. My road/gofast/not-ridden-as-much bike has the
> battery lights as needed for the shorter daylight days. If you can find an
> asymmetrical light with rechargeable batteries, all the better!
>
> On Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 1:01:19 PM UTC-7, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>> On my primary allrounder/commuter I have dynamo wheel and lights.  Here
>> are the reasons I like the dynamo:
>>
>> 1) If you ride it every day it's just one more thing you don't have to
>> worry about. I'm also not "saving" my battery charge for when it's "really
>> dark."
>> 2) Battery lights don't work very well in the cold. I had too many
>> battery lights die on me on dark winter nights.
>> 3) Three words: Daytime Running Lights. I'm pretty sure the always-on
>> lights on my IQ Fly have saved me from several left hooks.
>>
>> Instead of having a fancy custom-made dynamo wheel I ordered mine from
>> Germany, where everyone is required to run lights on their bikes. It's
>> sturdy and utilitarian, but you won't win any races with the extra weight
>> and drag of any dynamo system.
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: 65 Homer Hilsen F/F/HS

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On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 9:41 PM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> I vote Silver DT shifters.
>

Downtubes for sure, but I already have Silver shifters on my Velo Routier,
which may be the only bike to come with Silver shifters as original
equipment from the factory!

I almost put on Simplex retrofriction shifters like the ones on my Fitz,
but then I discovered a pair of Campagnolo Doppler shifters I'd squirreled
away some time ago. I think it's finally time to break those out and give
them a go!


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Hillborne in Sage Color, 62cm or 64cm

[Reed Kennedy]

I'll second Kai's recommendation of the 64cm if you have a PBH of 95cm. My
PBH is 93.5cm and my 65cm AHH is building up to fit just perfectly. I don't
think I'd want it to be any smaller.


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:03 AM Kainalu V.  wrote:

> When I got my Hillborne, the 64 was the only one made in Wisconsin. I
> think they all were cantilever ready, probably could've gotten it without.
> And at 95 PBH, I'd say you should be taking aim at the 64. I was at the
> very top of the range and it was a bit small, would've been perfect for me
> with some drop bars. For you, I think you'd find it accommodating to most
> anything. As for finding one, hang out on the bridges and you might get
> lucky!
> -Kai
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Hillborne in Sage Color, 62cm or 64cm

[Reed Kennedy]

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 3:53 PM Cody Bartz  wrote:

> Thank you Kainalu and Reed. According to the geometry charts, the
> Waterford Sam, size 64cm, has a stand over height of 91.5cm. The current
> Sam, size 62cm, has a stand over height of 90.5. Is that 1cm difference
> going to feel much different? In the 64cm Sam, the top tube appears to be
> 2cm longer, and the chain stays are 1cm shorter.
>

Ah, good point Cody! I forgot that unlike my Hilsen the current Sam has a
6° sloping top tube. The 62cm 6° New-Sam has the same theoretical 62.5cm
top tube as my 65cm 1.5° Waterford-Hilsen. Should get the bars up just
about as high and fit just about the same. I got it wrong, I bet you'd fit
just fine on the 62cm New-Sam. (And I bet I would too!)

You're right about the longer top tube on the 64cm Waterford-Sam compared
to the 62cm New-Sam. All other things being equal (and all bodies being
proportional) the longer TT'd 64cm Waterford-Sam might be predisposed to
work a bit better with upright bars, and the shorter TT'd 62cm New-Sam
might be preferable for drop bars. But I suspect both would work out with
either.

All that said, bear in mind what Grant said on the old Rambouillet flyer:

"The least useful [fit information], yet most likely to be harped on, is
top tube length. You cannot compare bikes by top tube length unless seat
tube angles and head tube height and steerer length are exactly the same."

Of course he's right. The Hilsen I'm building only needed a 1cm shorter
stem to put the bars in the same place as my custom Fitz, which has a 2cm
shorter top tube!


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant is asking us to not run baskets on Nitto Racks

[Reed Kennedy]

I appreciate the versatility of the Surly 8-Pack Rack, but the
erector-set-style mounting gives me the heebies. Even if it works well and
doesn't rattle loose it just looks... bad.

I'm planning to try the Soma Champs Élysées Mini Front Rack for my
new-to-me Hilsen:
https://www.modernbike.com/soma-champs-elysees-front-mini-rack---stainless

But it very much looks to be a rack intended to support a brevet bag (if
that) and not much more. Soma doesn't list a weight limit, but I doubt it's
basket-worthy.


Best,
Reed Kennedy

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 2:06 PM Ginz  wrote:

> I've been thinking about this an I'm really intrigued by the Surly 8-Pack
> rack vs. the Nitto 32F.  The surly doesn't seem to interfere with the fork
> crown and straddle carrier in any way.  Installation looks as clunky as any
> of these racks with canti-brakes.
>
> Also curious to see what the Nitto basket rack looks like, but might try
> to pick up a used Surly 8-Pack if I see one.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

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On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:24 AM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> Roadeos are so fast!!!
> 6/4/6 DT and TT
>

Lum, I find that hard to believe. Can you support that claim?


Best,
Reed Kennedy
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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

Dang, good call Lum! Thanks for the interview link, I'm looking forward to
reading through.

I'm still sorta stunned Grant spec'd anything with tubing that thin, but
there it is in black and white. Sorry I doubted you!

I suppose now the question is... Could I get a 63cm to fit? Hmm...


Best,
Reed

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> Reed:
> Scroll down to question #5:
> http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=376
>
> Grant tells all !!! 6/4/6!!!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 8:22 PM Ian A  wrote:

> Reed wrote: "
>
> I'm still sorta stunned Grant spec'd anything with tubing that thin, but
> there it is in black and white. Sorry I doubted you!"
>
> Bear in mind, the tubing referenced is OS tubing. The equivalent would be
> somehere between 858 and 969 in standard "skinny" tubing. You might also
> verify the tubing used on the larger sizes.
>
> Apologies if the above info was obvious. Just wanted to mention it.
>

A very good point, Ian. I "knew" that, but sure wasn't remembering it
during this conversation. The Roadeo I test-rode at Riv definitely felt
more similar to my 9/6/9 standard diameter bikes. So subjective though!

I remain tempted to beg some poor frame builder to make 200lbs me a 64cm
7/4/7 standard diameter frame, just to see what happens.

Maybe that'll be my reward for selling all the bikes I don't ride. ::grin::


Best,
Reed Kennedy
San Francisco, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

Yeah, I’ve never heard of a frame that thin gauge in a size that big.
Probably because it won’t work well. But nobody seems to know for sure as
nobody I’ve talked to has tried it.

I think I know someone who’d build me such a thing, I’m just stalling
because I’m hesitant to spend money (and ask a builder to spend their time)
on an experiment that might end up unrideable and get recycled.


Best,
Reed

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> Reed: A 747 standard tubing frame in that size would be unusual. I wonder
> if Norther/Lyon would do a one-off for you? Wouldn't hurt to ask
> https://northercycles.squarespace.com/jeff-lyon-colaboration/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

Dang, thanks so much Brian! I have learned so much by derailing this poor
thread!

As someone who just picked up a 65cm Hilsen and then found himself
wondering if he'd be better served by a Roadeo the info from Mark you
shared is music to my ears.

The Hilsen fits better, takes a bigger tire, and has more BB drop, all
things I like. Yet I was thinking of giving it all up for a lighter-tubed
Roadeo! Glad to know there's not much improvement to be had, at least in my
size.

Even better, I already have the Hilsen.


Best,
Reed

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:24 AM Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> This is an e-mail exchange I had with Mark at Riv a few years back. I
> think it s his way of telling me that the the ultra lightweight tubing is
> in the smaller sized Roadeos only. YMMV.
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
>
> In sizes 59cm and up, the tube spec is pretty similar between the Roadeo
> and Hilsen.  So, the main difference with probably come from lighter
> components and smaller volume tires, resulting in a more spirited ride
> feel. This along with slight geometry differences would differentiate the
> two models.
>
>
>
> Any other questions, let me know.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Campbell,Brian D.
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:22pm
> To: "m...@rivbike.com" 
> Subject: Roadeo or Hilsen
>
> Mark,
>
>
>
> Hi. I spoke with Will and he suggested an e-mail to you. I ride a 61cm AHH
> (really like it) but am finding I am doing more and more riding where I am
> focused on riding by itself, not carrying things or commuting per se. I was
> considering a Roadeo (also in 61cm or perhaps 59cm size, I can fit both per
> Riv’s sizing method 87cm PB height)) and aside from rear spacing, shifter
> mounts, tires size and slight front end geometry difference on the Roadeo,
> is there a meaningful difference in the tubing types between the two
> frames? If yes, could you let me know what they might be?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:24 PM Kainalu V.  wrote:

> In jestish, so yes, kiddingly not kidding. And your friend's bike rules!
> What's the dims on that monster?
>

If memory serves it's a 67cm frame with 650B wheels. I think he said his
PBH is 101cm!


Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse crank wobble/deflection issue(?)

[Reed Kennedy]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 1:34 PM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> I say "if you dare" because a second mounting might void warranty.
>

Why in the world would removing and remounting a crank void the warranty?
These are not single use items.

I must remove my René Herse drive side crank arm every time I pack my bike
in to an airline case. I certainly hope reinstallation is expected!


Best,
Reed Kennedy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse crank wobble/deflection issue(?)

[Reed Kennedy]

Metin,

Understood, but a second (or even sixth) installation surely won't void the
warranty, will it?

Recommendations for a narrow Q non-square-taper crank that can be run as a
44/28 double?


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:17 PM Metin Uz  wrote:

> Reed,
>
> Square taper cranks have a limited number of installation cycles before
> they will be too deformed, although that number could be fairly large. The
> theory is that the each properly torqued installation pushes the crank
> taper further into the spindle.
>
> For a travel bike that needs crank removal, I would switch to a non square
> taper crank.
>
> --Metin
>
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 4:05:03 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 1:34 PM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:
>>
>>> I say "if you dare" because a second mounting might void warranty.
>>>
>>
>> Why in the world would removing and remounting a crank void the warranty?
>> These are not single use items.
>>
>> I must remove my René Herse drive side crank arm every time I pack my
>> bike in to an airline case. I certainly hope reinstallation is expected!
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed Kennedy
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse crank wobble/deflection issue(?)

[Reed Kennedy]

Interesting, thanks Michael.

Anyone know the Q factor measurement of the aforelinked IRD Lobo Adventure
crankset?


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:37 PM Michael Doleman 
wrote:

>
> https://store.interlocracing.com/loacr.html
>
>
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 4:27:14 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Metin,
>>
>> Understood, but a second (or even sixth) installation surely won't void
>> the warranty, will it?
>>
>> Recommendations for a narrow Q non-square-taper crank that can be run as
>> a 44/28 double?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:17 PM Metin Uz  wrote:
>>
>>> Reed,
>>>
>>> Square taper cranks have a limited number of installation cycles before
>>> they will be too deformed, although that number could be fairly large. The
>>> theory is that the each properly torqued installation pushes the crank
>>> taper further into the spindle.
>>>
>>> For a travel bike that needs crank removal, I would switch to a non
>>> square taper crank.
>>>
>>> --Metin
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 4:05:03 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 1:34 PM Lum Gim Fong 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I say "if you dare" because a second mounting might void warranty.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why in the world would removing and remounting a crank void the
>>>> warranty? These are not single use items.
>>>>
>>>> I must remove my René Herse drive side crank arm every time I pack my
>>>> bike in to an airline case. I certainly hope reinstallation is expected!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Reed Kennedy
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

[Reed Kennedy]

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:17 AM Brewster Fong  wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 10:14:11 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> There is no "like him". Jobst was a cantankerous fellow who rode hard and
>> didn't think much of things like road conditions or exhaustion.
>
>
> Agree, you need to do a search for his annual Europe trips. He had a
> checklist of things he would pack.
>

Now that's a packing list I'd like to see! Lemme dig for a minute...

I think this is it:
https://yarchive.net/bike/baggage.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20010410090452/http://www-math.science.unitn.it/Bike/General/Packing_List.html

Also came across this extended version, which says it is based on Jobst's:
https://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/French_Swiss_Alps_1998/packlist.html


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Reed Kennedy]

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:09 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Tangent from the current Blahg: That ebike video was weird. "We don't read
> books" ? 😐
>

I know, I know! They don't read books, they don't eat nice meals, and their
bikes don't need to be pedaled.

What are they saving all this time and energy for? It must be amazing!


Reed
(Who will be quite abashed when an ebike rider cures cancer.)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Likely FS soon: Rambouillet 60 & Legolas 59

[Reed Kennedy]

Following up on the Great Roadeo Tubing Debate:

I've been using a piece of industrial testing equipment to measure wall
thickness in bike frames. Last weekend I was fortunate enough to measure a
Roadeo, Rambouillet, A. Homer Hilsen, and Hunqapillar all in similar sizes.
(Thanks to Ben Miller!)

Results are here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XeS2nJhBPSDRbqgG1-F2VOI_vK1QZnZmysARDJWyGps/edit?usp=sharing

Short version: The Roadeo is lighter of tube than the Hilsen, with the main
difference being the top tube. However, the 61cm version I measured was not
built with 6/4/6 tubing. Interestingly, the 64cm Rambouillet was almost as
thin / light, but the Roadeo was just a touch thinner.

If anyone around the SF Bay Area has a smaller Roadeo I'd be excited to
measure it. Or, frankly, any other Riv!


Best,
Reed

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:24 AM Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> This is an e-mail exchange I had with Mark at Riv a few years back. I
> think it s his way of telling me that the the ultra lightweight tubing is
> in the smaller sized Roadeos only. YMMV.
>
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
>
> In sizes 59cm and up, the tube spec is pretty similar between the Roadeo
> and Hilsen.  So, the main difference with probably come from lighter
> components and smaller volume tires, resulting in a more spirited ride
> feel. This along with slight geometry differences would differentiate the
> two models.
>
>
>
> Any other questions, let me know.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Campbell,Brian D.
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:22pm
> To: "m...@rivbike.com" 
> Subject: Roadeo or Hilsen
>
> Mark,
>
>
>
> Hi. I spoke with Will and he suggested an e-mail to you. I ride a 61cm AHH
> (really like it) but am finding I am doing more and more riding where I am
> focused on riding by itself, not carrying things or commuting per se. I was
> considering a Roadeo (also in 61cm or perhaps 59cm size, I can fit both per
> Riv’s sizing method 87cm PB height)) and aside from rear spacing, shifter
> mounts, tires size and slight front end geometry difference on the Roadeo,
> is there a meaningful difference in the tubing types between the two
> frames? If yes, could you let me know what they might be?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 2016 Sam Hillborne 55 cm - $1300

[Reed Kennedy]

I’ve seen Babs’ bike in person and it really is a lovely Sam.

And what a deal! That’s less than a complete Clem. Heck, it’s less than a
Sam or Homer frame alone!


Best,
Reed
SF, CA

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:45 AM Babs  wrote:

> Forgot to mention that I'm living in Palo Alto, California, so if you want
> me to ship it, you'll have to pay the cost of packing and bike flights.
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 11:42:41 AM UTC-7, Babs wrote:
>>
>> Hello Riv-ers!
>>
>>
>> I'm selling a lovely blue 2016 55cm Sam Hillborne because of...grad
>> school. The number 1 reason I’m selling is that I need the money, and
>> second, it’s probably slightly too big. Since I bought it I’ve built up my
>> own randonneuring bike, which fits me much better, so I don't realy
>> need the Sam...sigh.
>>
>> Photos here!
>> 
>>
>> I bought it in June 2017 from the original owner who had barely ridden it
>> - it looked brand new. Everything functions perfectly, there are just some
>> scratches/paint chips (which I’ve sealed with clear nail polish). There’s
>> also a purely cosmetic manufacturing defect on the cable guide near the
>> back of the top tube (pictured). I have taken it on dirt singletrack and
>> used it for hauling around town, as my philosophy was to ride & enjoy it.
>> The paint chips could easily be fixed with paint from Rivendell. I’m asking
>> $1300 - much less than I paid, because of this. Please let me know if this
>> is unreasonable :))
>>
>> The spec is the exact same as the choco bar sam
>>  on
>> the rivendell website except for the grips. I found the cork grips too
>> slippery for off-road riding, so I put on some black locking Odi grips. As
>> a mountain biker, I like the look, but if you want the cork ones, they're
>> $26 from Rivendell's site
>> 
>> (one of them cracked when I removed them).
>>
>> Comes with one water bottle cage, and another if I find it :) Also
>> includes saddle & pedals!
>>
>> Happy riding,
>>
>> Barbara
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Riv Custom Complete on LA Craigslist

[Reed Kennedy]

Glad so many of y’all are curating your bikes and keeping them pristine. I
really appreciate it when I buy ‘em used!

As for me? When I’m on a brevet and hit a control the bike is getting
leaned against whatever is quick and handy as long as it won’t damage the
metal bits. Part of the reason I went with a powder coat on my custom is
durability: I consider it a protective layer just as much as an aesthetic
feature.

I figure when the powder coat gets awful that’s my cue to pick a new color!

Now, my vintage bikes with their original finish? That’s a whole different
ballgame. I don’t like to rest ‘em on anything but a bike stand.

I should probably own fewer vintage bikes.


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:13 AM Justin, Oakland 
wrote:

> Whenever I see a bike without chips, flecks or stickers on it I’m curious
> if the rider does more than just ride it out the door and do loops and then
> come back again. No shame in that game if that’s what you I just can’t
> imagine making it through riding a fire road, locking up, taking it on a
> train, in a car or anywhere without some chips and such happening.
>
> -J
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Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

[Reed Kennedy]

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 6:08 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

>
> In the argument above I bet money that my zip ties would be intact for a
> long time. They are still rock solid for what it’s worth.


I also zip tie basket to my racks. Sadly haven’t found them to work in
perpetuity, it does eventually break. Specifically, the basket wires
eventually break near the ties. I’ve also had some of the basket welds
fail.

I wish the basket would last as long as the zip ties!


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

[Reed Kennedy]

On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:39 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> As I understand it the Roadeo has significantly thinner tubing than the
> Romulus and Ram I owned. Noticeable enough that my one very short ride
> around the building at RBW told me I was riding a different, whippier,
> snappier bike than what I was familiar with. To my mind it was the
> difference between a Riv road bike built to a survivable standard under
> fairly stout riders, and one with a definite weight limit. Almost a
> "production custom", if you will.
>

For the curious, the tubing wall thickness measurements I've taken of
several similar-sized Rivendell bikes can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XeS2nJhBPSDRbqgG1-F2VOI_vK1QZnZmysARDJWyGps/edit?usp=sharing

Please note that I strongly suspect Riv uses different gauges of tubing for
different sizes, so these measurements almost certainly do not reflect the
tubing spec of smaller frames. I look forward to measuring other sizes and
finding out for sure!

That said, since the Hunqapillar, Rambouillet, Roadeo, and Hilsen shown at
that link are all in the same size "neighborhood" it probably does give a
fair idea of the relative differences between the models.

If anyone is around the SF Bay Area and would like their bikes measured,
please drop me a line!


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Reed Kennedy]

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 3:02 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks, guys. I guess they would recommend the Cliffhangers for a build?
>

Swung by Riv HQ with some folks after riding Briones yesterday. Will
confirmed that the built-bike in the pictures is a size Large with 650B
wheels. I didn’t look, but one of the other fellas on the ride (John?)
checked out the rims and said they were indeed Cliffhangers.

If you visit Riv and are willing to do some serious climbing consider
Briones! It was lovely. Pictures and stuff:
https://www.strava.com/activities/1860749043


Best,
Reed


On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 11:48:11 PM UTC-4, DarinM wrote:
>>
>> Price was mentioned in the "Sept 8, but..." Blahg posts. $1500 for frame
>> and fork only, but also $1900 for fillet brazed. He didn't specifically say
>> both would be available, maybe they're going to do one or the other? Or
>> maybe both, they got samples of both. Sounds like no stock completes a la
>> Clem.
>>
>> Darin
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 7:15:45 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't recall if it was mentioned whether the Gus Boots would be
>>> offered as complete only or also as a frameset? And was a general
>>> pricepoint mentioned?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[Reed Kennedy]

Great info, thanks Lum. Might I ask where you're quoting from?

I found some (but not all) of that info here:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI_MAR_8.pdf
(Has a nice Roadeo vs Roadini section.)

I measured an AHH last night that had tapered butting. I measured three
times to make sure I wasn't getting a bad reading! Great to have some
confirmation of Riv using tapered tubes elsewhere. Would love to know where
you found that, and who said it.

I didn't think to measure if the tube itself was tapered. It was luged, so
I imagine not. Wish I'd measured, though!


Best,
Reed


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:29 AM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> Good question:
>
> Having not ridden one could check out the tubing specs to guess from that.
>
> Best we can know is, if I have copied all this correctly:
>
> Ram:Reynolds/TrueTemper mix.  8/5/8 DT/TT, 9/6 ST, 1.0 FBlades, 16mm x .7
> seatstays, .76 or .8 chainstays.
>
> Roadini:
> “0.9 x 0.7 TT and the length is cut from the butt (0.9) end. So you get
> the 0.9 up at the front, where top tubes buckle. The 0.7 is on the thick
> side for a belly (though it's the same as old Columbus SP, which was 1.0 x
> 0.7 x 1.0--as a historical reference).
>
> The 0.7 seat-post end is light. But that's the least stressed portion on a
> top tube. We use the same tube on our heavier bikes, but they're not
> "chopped from the butt." Weight  difference is minimal.
>
> DT is a tapered tube--31.8 x 1.1 at the head tube, to 28.6 x 0.8 at the
> bottom bracket. It's another "chopped from the butt" tube, to minimize the
> 1.1 length, but still giving it a lot of buckle-resistance.
>
> You might wonder why a tapered tube here, and why not fatten it at the BB?
> (Like Serotta's old "Colorado Concept" tubes were.) Well...almost all of
> the tilting/fatigue stress down there at the crank is localized on the base
> of the seat tube. I've seen 30 bikes (not all ours, thanks...) break there,
> and zero break at the downtube. Strain gauge stess analysis reveals that
> the stress is light on the down tube, heavy on the seat tube.
>
> That's why, on our TIG'd bikes, the seat tube is 1.1 there, and ovalized
> laterally to 34.9 x 28.6.”
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Re: [RBW] Recomendations For Cycling-Specific Vehicle

[Reed Kennedy]

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:55 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Seconded about the BMW GS, I didn't know I could afford one now! Of course
> I still can't reach the ground on one, but...
>

Try the seat in the low position! There are two, and it makes a big
difference.

I've owned over 30 motorcycles in the last two decades. Now I only own the
GS. I adore it, and it does everything I need. 110,000 miles and counting.


Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[Reed Kennedy]

Excellent information and everything I was hoping to know. Thanks so much
Lum! Great to have info from Grant himself.


Best,
Reed

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 1:24 PM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> @Reed:
> But of course!
>
> Ram: from RivReader scan as posted on cyclofiend page.
> Roadini: from an email response from Grant
>
> I had asked him about the differences between the Roadini, NewHomer, and
> MUSARodeos because I wanted to get the lightest, fastest Rivbike model ever
> made as I already had 8/5/8 Rivs that were too overbuilt for me. So I knew
> I wanted something snappier and wanted to know what the lightest/thinnest
> tubed model was. He gave me the specs of the bikes so I could make a
> decision. I thought it over and knew I could not buy 8/5/8 or thicker again.
>
> The reason I call the Roadeo the MUSARoadeo is because there may be a
> TaiwanRoadeo coming out later that is so far planned be longer and stouter
> built than MUSA version (same source) so want to clarify for future readers
> which iteration we are discussing.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks Tom! Good find, I'm glad to have that spec sheet. Looks like it goes
with the earlier Toyo Atlantises, before the Atlantis^2?

Of course, the problem now is figuring out which ones those are! I guess
it'd be any Atlantis that doesn't have the "2" on the decals? Would love to
track one down and compare.

I do have another sheet where I track frames I've measured against
published specs. So far things are pretty close...


Best,
Reed

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 5:52 PM tc  wrote:

> Reed, this is a very cool think you're doing :)  I'm not a left coaster,
> or I'd gladly have you measure them!  I did find this Toyo Atlantis build
> spec, including tubing, on Sheldon's site you might find interesting for
> comparing your actual results:
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/atlantis.html#specifications
>
> Tom
>
> On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 10:31:24 AM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:39 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> As I understand it the Roadeo has significantly thinner tubing than the
>>> Romulus and Ram I owned. Noticeable enough that my one very short ride
>>> around the building at RBW told me I was riding a different, whippier,
>>> snappier bike than what I was familiar with. To my mind it was the
>>> difference between a Riv road bike built to a survivable standard under
>>> fairly stout riders, and one with a definite weight limit. Almost a
>>> "production custom", if you will.
>>>
>>
>> For the curious, the tubing wall thickness measurements I've taken of
>> several similar-sized Rivendell bikes can be found here:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XeS2nJhBPSDRbqgG1-F2VOI_vK1QZnZmysARDJWyGps/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Please note that I strongly suspect Riv uses different gauges of tubing
>> for different sizes, so these measurements almost certainly do not reflect
>> the tubing spec of smaller frames. I look forward to measuring other sizes
>> and finding out for sure!
>>
>> That said, since the Hunqapillar, Rambouillet, Roadeo, and Hilsen shown
>> at that link are all in the same size "neighborhood" it probably does give
>> a fair idea of the relative differences between the models.
>>
>> If anyone is around the SF Bay Area and would like their bikes measured,
>> please drop me a line!
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

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On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 7:33 PM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> Ram tubing is all Tohouku-Miyata.  Heat treated DT & CS.  Balance non heat
> treated.
> DT & TT .8/.5/.8   double butted
> ST 1.0/.6  butted
> HT  .9
> SS .7 double tapered
> CS .8
> Forks 1.0
>

Great stuff, thanks for that. It lines up well with the Ram I measured.
I've gone ahead and added your details as a tubing note on my spreadsheet.


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Re: [RBW] Re: New Roadeo (to me)

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks Tom, I appreciate the compliment! I'm planning to add it to a
"resources" sticky over on the iBOB list sometime soon. I'm not quite sure
how aligned this project is with the Riv philosophy, so I've been
relatively quieter about it here.

I'm also planning to write a blog post about the project once I have more
data (and time to write something more professional).


Best,
Reed

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 5:06 PM tc  wrote:

> Reed, I think this deserves the sticky thread treatment, given:
>
>- It's a lot of data that (hopefully) will be collected over time
>- It's a wonderful gift to the community
>- It would be hard to find, as this thread is entitled "New Roadeo (to
>me)"
>
>
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[Reed Kennedy]

Grant describes the differences between the Romulus and the Rambouillet
(and the AHH) here, a bit down the page:
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/index.html

He doesn't mention any tubing changes, so I suspect they're the same. I
haven't gotten to measure one yet, though. Hope to track one down before
too long!


Best,
Reed

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> Does anyone know if the Romulus used the same tubing as the Ram?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[Reed Kennedy]

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:19 PM Bruce Herbitter 
wrote:

> Yes Kieran it’s .8/.5/.8
>

Hey Bruce, thanks for sharing that. Would you mind letting us know how you
came by that information?


Best,
Reed


>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 2, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Kieran J  wrote:
>
> Too bad I didn't have my Ram at the Unmeeting. I've always assumed it's OS
> 8-5-8 but since it's the biggest size, I'd sure like confirmation. Maybe
> some day :-D
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 11:02:52 AM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Grant describes the differences between the Romulus and the Rambouillet
>> (and the AHH) here, a bit down the page:
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/index.html
>>
>> He doesn't mention any tubing changes, so I suspect they're the same. I
>> haven't gotten to measure one yet, though. Hope to track one down before
>> too long!
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:34 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if the Romulus used the same tubing as the Ram?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[Reed Kennedy]

Spoke with Bruce off-list a bit and he helped me track down this archive of
an old Riv web page that does indeed list the Ram tubing specs:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070513053057/http://rivbike.com/webalog/frames/50074.html

It's listed as .8/.5/.8 OS, exactly as Bruce said. Excitingly, that almost
perfectly matches the measurements I recently took from a 64cm Ram:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XeS2nJhBPSDRbqgG1-F2VOI_vK1QZnZmysARDJWyGps/edit?usp=sharing

I took the measurements before I saw those specs, so that validates my
results nicely.


Best,
Reed

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 1:53 PM Reed Kennedy  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:19 PM Bruce Herbitter 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes Kieran it’s .8/.5/.8
>>
>
> Hey Bruce, thanks for sharing that. Would you mind letting us know how you
> came by that information?
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Kieran J  wrote:
>>
>> Too bad I didn't have my Ram at the Unmeeting. I've always assumed it's
>> OS 8-5-8 but since it's the biggest size, I'd sure like confirmation. Maybe
>> some day :-D
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 11:02:52 AM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>> Grant describes the differences between the Romulus and the Rambouillet
>>> (and the AHH) here, a bit down the page:
>>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/index.html
>>>
>>> He doesn't mention any tubing changes, so I suspect they're the same. I
>>> haven't gotten to measure one yet, though. Hope to track one down before
>>> too long!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Reed
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:34 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if the Romulus used the same tubing as the Ram?
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Re: [RBW] FREE* Schwalbe Inner Tube SV19A (Presta) NIB - 650B x 54-60mm / 700c x 38-60mm

[Reed Kennedy]

Hey LeRoy,

You probably know this, but just in case: The Schwalbe tubes come with a
Presta nut with a little raised extra part the diameter of a Schrader hole.
I assume you prefer Schrader valves for reasons of pumps or
standardization, but if you're just worried about fit, fret not. It'll fit
great.

This link has pictures of the three popular converters:
https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/18859/does-valve-stem-diameter-matter-for-my-rims
The Schwalbe one is similar to (but not the same as) the one in the middle.


Best,
Reed

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM LeRoy  wrote:

> When something is offered for "Free" with an asterisk (*), you have to
> ask, "What's the catch?" So, the catch here is that you get the
> new-in-the-box tube for free *if you pay the shipping*.
>
> I made a rookie mistake and bought a spare tube in the right size, but
> with a Presta valve instead of Schrader. My loss, your potential gain.
> Please send me a PM with your Zip Code and I'll figure out shipping. It
> will probably go in the lease expensive Priority Mail Flat Rate Box. First
> come, first served. PayPal F&F preferred.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

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On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:51 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:

> I have a 58 Ram and 57 Rom and there does feel like a difference. I wonder
> if it is in my head. They are built similar but different wheels. The
> models are the same geometry and supposedly 98% the same. The Ram feels
> like a more flexible lovely ride. Perhaps it is just the color orange. At
> some point I’ll probably post a Romulus for sale. I am 210 so anything
> thinner then 858 probably would be a bad idea.


Food for thought: I weigh 201 pounds and my 61 cm Rawland Nordavinden works
extremely well for me. That frame uses a standard diameter 7/4/7 top tube
and standard diameter 8/5/8 downtube:
http://rawlandcycles.blogspot.com/2012/07/nordavinden-geometry-and-specifications.html

Taking in to account the narrower diameter tubing, this frame is
significantly more flexible than an 8/5/8 oversized frame. Leaves me
wondering: Am I special? Or do folks tend to over-estimate the tubing
needed by larger riders?

I’ll be riding it on the New England Randonneurs Fall Classic 120k this
Saturday. Curious to see how it holds up on an 85% dirt route!


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

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Hey Rod, my subjective experience is similar to yours. My A. Homer Hilsen
has a different feel than my Nordavinden, which in turn feels different
than my MAP. I have subjective thoughts on which of them "feel" fastest,
but none of them hold me back significantly in my non-competitive
randonneuring.

I personally believe that bike fit is by far the most important factor.
After that, running high supple tires seems to make the second biggest
difference. Once I've optimized those two things, having a frame that
flexes in a way that works for me comes third. Weight, within a couple
pounds, comes a distance fourth for me when it comes to optimal performance.

Which is to say, I recommend getting your tires and fit dialed in as
perfectly as possible before you even begin to worry about frame flex or
weight!


Best,
Reed

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> Reed,
>
> I'll raise you a few pounds. At 227, I'm very happy with the lively
> handling of my 58 cm Nordavinden. I'm also delighted with my two Surly LHT
> variants (700c and 26"), and my Ebisu All Purpose. I can tell the
> difference in handling among them, of course, but can ride any of them fast
> and far, over a gamut of surfaces. I'm running Compass or Grand Bois ELs on
> all of them, and that has no doubt improved the ride experience in all
> cases.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[Reed Kennedy]

Interesting Bruce! That's not what I would have expected. Were the Nord and
the Ram built up and fit similarly?

Curious about the brakes in particular. I originally had my Nord set up
some dual pivot calipers, which I did not like. Power was fair, but
modulation poor. They made me uncomfortable on dirt. I worried I would
jiggle my grip over a bump and lock a wheel. I replaced them with a pair of
Paul Racer M brakes driven by Gevenalle (Tektro) levers, and it is now the
best braking bike I own.

I haven't heard of TIG vs lugs effecting frame flexibility or ride quality
before, but it'd be curious to learn more. Any engineers out there who
would care to comment?

Have fun at the Southern Magnolia Century! That sounds like a lovely place
for a ride.


Best,
Reed

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:34 AM Bruce Herbitter 
wrote:

> Hi Reed:
>
> I test rode a Norvindian owned by a fellow cyclist in Mobile.  I found it
> much less lively than my Ram.  She loves it however.  Maybe lugs vs welds?
>   The Ram is fine on gravel with fat tires.  I did a gravel grind on Pasela
> 1 1/2” and ride was okay.  I was leery of the brakes on steep loose down
> hills and canti or disc would be my suggestion for gravel. On packed clay
> the bike as is is fine.
> Have a super ride. Mine will be in Saucier MS this weekend for the
> Southern Magnolia Century.  A cousin of my wife from LA is meeting me to
> ride the New Albion Starling I built for her.  There’s a riv ish brand at a
> lower price point too. Very good ride.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 3, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:51 AM Jonathan D.  wrote:
>
>> I have a 58 Ram and 57 Rom and there does feel like a difference. I
>> wonder if it is in my head. They are built similar but different wheels.
>> The models are the same geometry and supposedly 98% the same. The Ram feels
>> like a more flexible lovely ride. Perhaps it is just the color orange. At
>> some point I’ll probably post a Romulus for sale. I am 210 so anything
>> thinner then 858 probably would be a bad idea.
>
>
> Food for thought: I weigh 201 pounds and my 61 cm Rawland Nordavinden
> works extremely well for me. That frame uses a standard diameter 7/4/7 top
> tube and standard diameter 8/5/8 downtube:
>
> http://rawlandcycles.blogspot.com/2012/07/nordavinden-geometry-and-specifications.html
>
> Taking in to account the narrower diameter tubing, this frame is
> significantly more flexible than an 8/5/8 oversized frame. Leaves me
> wondering: Am I special? Or do folks tend to over-estimate the tubing
> needed by larger riders?
>
> I’ll be riding it on the New England Randonneurs Fall Classic 120k this
> Saturday. Curious to see how it holds up on an 85% dirt route!
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Future?

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On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 7:18 PM Paul G  wrote:

> From Mark Abele regarding a 61 cm Roadeo:
>
> True Temp OX Plat tubing in the main triangle
> Top Tube:  .8 x .5 x .8mm
> Down Tube:  .8 x .6 x .8mm
> Seat Tube:  .6  x .8mm
> Chainstay:  Reynolds Track Fork Blade 1.2mm
> Seat Stay:  Double taper 12 x 16 x 11mm (OD; not sure of wall thickness)
>
> This was in an email response from him in 2013 when I purchased the
> frameset.
>

Great to have those specs, thanks Paul!

For whatever it may be worth, the Roadeo I recently measured came in a bit
lighter than those specs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XeS2nJhBPSDRbqgG1-F2VOI_vK1QZnZmysARDJWyGps

The differences are large and regular enough that I am confident the frame
I measured doesn’t match the spec, rather than being a measuring error or
somesuch.

Interesting!


Best,
Reed

On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 1:26:45 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>>
>> You could email to ask Grant directly.
>>
>> The only statement I have seen is from Grant in that cyclofiend interview
>> where he said Roadeos are 6/4/6. He didn't mention if anything differed
>> among sizes there. Just that Roadeos are 6/4/6.
>>
>> But if someone has a quote on the fact that bigger sizes are different,
>> please post it here. That would be helpful to find out for sure about
>> tubing specs for different MUSARoadeo sizes.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L 59 -- Considering a purchase

[Reed Kennedy]

Warning: Rough measure taken with two meter sticks and eyeballing the
contact patches.

I got 125 cm. Maybe a touch over. Definitely less than 130 cm.


Best,
Reed

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:43 AM RDS  wrote:

> What is the wheelbase length (meaning the distance b/t where the two tires
> make ground contact) for the 59 Clem L.  I have to put my bike on a tray
> style bike rack to go somewhere to ride and now am wondering if it will fit
> or not.
>
> On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 2:49:36 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>>
>> I am thinking of getting a Clem L frame or complete bike.
>>
>> The latest catalog has a min PBH of 83 for the size 59.  I am 83+/-.
>> Anyone near PBH own one and have any comments?  I am overweight, so most
>> riding will be paved paths.
>>
>> Looks like Gray or Green for a color choice.  Your vote?
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Re: [RBW] Does your PB8 hub make noise?

[Reed Kennedy]

As previously mentioned, my SV-9 sounded like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5YBals43L8

Sent it back, and they confirmed it was defective.

My replacement non-defective SV-9 doesn't make any noise, nor do my SON
hubs.

(Very rarely I can feel a slight vibration through the bars, but it's
unobtrusive. I notice it on maybe 1 out of 5 brevets, and only briefly.)


Reed

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[RBW] FS/T: Some special jerseys and other wool (larger / taller)

[Reed Kennedy]

My shape has changed, and some lovely wool must go. Pictures here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WhfFVMVwqnC4bs4z9

All have been washed only with wool safe detergent, laid flat to dry, and
treated with the utmost care. All are in great shape, with any
peculiarities described below.
Buy one and shipping is $8. Buy two or more and shipping is on me.

#1: *Rivendell* green and red short sleeved jersey

   - Marked XXXL, measurements in photos.
   - Made by Woolistic, bought on discount from Rivendell many moons ago.
   The tag was cut off before I bought it, I could never figure out why. The
   "Rivendell" embroidery is amazing.
   - This is my favorite jersey. It has been worn a good few times, but was
   always treated with great care. It is in wonderful shape. There is only one
   tiny repair, where a thread broke at the bottom of the center pocket. This
   was done by my mum, who cares as much as about sewing as we do about
   bicycles.
   - As pictured in one of the official Eroica CA photos:
   https://photos.app.goo.gl/6NG5n1mfK596DJtg6
   - I would much prefer to *trade* this for an XL Rivendell jersey or
   other interesting jersey.


#2: *iBOB* green and white short sleeved jersey

   - Marked XXL, measurements in photos.
   - Made by Portland Cyclewear.
   - A lovely jersey that never fit right. I don't think I've worn it. No
   repairs that I can see.
   - $80, or trade for another interesting jersey that's a bit smaller.

#3: *Yazoo *black / red / white jersey

   - Marked XL, measurements in photos.
   - Made by Earth, Wind, and Rider in China.
   - No rear pockets!
   - This is probably the nicest feeling wool of any jersey I own. It is
   just luxurious! I don't usually buy made in China garments, but I made an
   exception for this one. It is just so nice. No repairs that I can see.
   - $50 or trade.

#4: Le Roc "*Team 5 Sport*" vintage jersey in blue and white

   - Marked size 4-5, measurements in photos. Much smaller than the others
   here!
   - Lovely vintage jersey that appears unworn.
   - Letters on front are raised flocking.
   - $50 or trade.

#5: *Ibex* 1/2 length wool shorts / knickers / tights

   - Marked size Large, length measurement in photos, waste is super
   stretchy (I have worn them when I was wearing size 32 jeans and when I have
   worn size 38 jeans.)
   - Original MUSA Ibex from when they had the nice multi-material pad and
   embroidered logo.
   - Ibex shorts (especially these older versions) are my very favorites.
   These still fit great but I've come to prefer the shortest and longest
   ones. I think I only wore these medium-length ones once. Still next-to-new.
   - $65 or trade.

Preference given to good trades, folks who can pick up in San Francisco or
folks who want multiple items.

For trades things I'm looking for are interesting wool jerseys that fit,
knickers, Campagnolo Doppler shifters, limited edition Brooks saddles, new
production Ideale saddles, Dromarti shoes in size 47 or 48, Huret Duopar
rear derailleur, Compass bits, old French frame pumps with the little hose,
or other fancy, classic, interesting Rivish things.


Best,
Reed Kennedy
San Francisco, CA

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[RBW] SF Bay Area: Bike camping at Pescadero Creek for the 2018 Swift Campout!

[Reed Kennedy]

Hey folks! I'm putting together a Rivish / BOBish bike ride and camping
trip on the San Francisco peninsula for the upcoming 2018 Swift Campout on
June 23rd. All are welcome! These are the longest weekend days of the year.
Why not spend 'em on a bicycle?

Here's the rough plan so far:
Day 1, Saturday June 23rd:

   - Route: *https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27216913
   <https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27216913>*
   - 45 miles, 4,700 ft climbing
   - Head out from Millbrae BART at 10am (meet in front of the elevator,
   near the palm trees)
   - Lunch at Alice's Restaurant
   - There are some dirt trails that parallel Skyline, which we could do or
   not do
   - Last 5 miles are an easy dirt road, rideable on a road bike. We should
   be able to ride the whole way to camp, no need to push or carry your bike.
   - Set camp at Tarwater Trail Camp, Pescadero Creek County Park (no water
   at camp, bring what you need!)
   - Camp dinner, hang out, sleep in the woods


Day 2, Sunday June 24th:

   - Route: *https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27216975
   <https://ridewithgps.com/routes/27216975>*
   - 29 miles, 2,700 ft climbing
   - Wake up, have breakfast, strike camp
   - First 5 miles are on the same dirt road
   - Stop off at the Cupertino Bike Shop if we're in the mood (super famous
   old school bike shop, almost a bike museum)
   - Lunch in Cupertino, Sunnyvale, or Mountain View (In-N-Out?)
   - Caltrain home from Mountain View station


I'm gonna make time to test-ride this route before the campout but so far I
think the above looks pretty swell. I'm excited about it! Also happy to
hear thoughts or advice if you have 'em.

Here's the Swift Campout page for the ride: https://swiftcampout.
com/camper/sofauxboho/

If you'd like to join us for the ride please do! The best way to stay
up-to-date is to join the Bay Area Rivendell Riders mailing list (which is
not just for Rivendell riders these days): https://groups.google.
com/forum/#!forum/bay-area-rivendell-riders

If you wanna come along but don't wanna join another mailing list just drop
me a line. I'll keep you in the loop.


Cheers,
Reed Kennedy
San Francisco, CA

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Re: [RBW] WTB 65cm Atlantis

[Reed Kennedy]

Not an Atlantis, but I’ve decided I’m ready to part with my 62cm gray and
maroon Hunqapillar. I usually ride a 64cm, but thanks to the very slightly
sloping top tube this one fits my 93.5cm PBH quite well. (The Hunqapillar
flier recommends this size for 91.5 -100cm PBHs.)

This is the original Toyo Hunq with the fancy heat treated tubing.

If you’re interested let me know and I’ll put together some details and
pictures.


Best,
Reed

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:05 AM Eric Floden  wrote:

> If you uncover " too many " let us know
>
> EricF
> On the edge in Vancouver
>
> On 15 April 2018 at 20:53, bo richardson  wrote:
>
>> Not for me but a friend would like to buy a nice Atlantis in 65cm
>> anyone selling could just let me know and i will middleperson for you.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> bo
>> bellingham
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Re: [RBW] WTB 65cm Atlantis

[Reed Kennedy]

Huh! Hadn’t seen the one on eBay. Mine is set up with drop bars and a front
rack at the moment.

I should put together a real for sale listing...


Reed

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:14 PM Abcyclehank  wrote:

> Reed is this the one on eBay currently.  Absolutely a great color combo.
> I have a 64cm same color Bombadil that I will never part with (again) made
> that mistake once and fate brought it home again.  (Thanks Al)
>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Hey Jim,

I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, but
didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed him
to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)

I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and useful
information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to give...
Thoughts?


Best,
Reed

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:

> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the
> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).
>
> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com
> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF
> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I
> stashed these two here -
>
> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>
> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>
> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came
> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up a
> Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how
> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was
> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person.
>
> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had
> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since
> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This
> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly
> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to
> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link
> for now -
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0
>
> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>
> - Jim
>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Totally reasonable. I've dropped Grant another line asking. I didn't want
to be a pest, but I suppose asking twice in six months probably isn't all
that bad.

I feel conflicted! I gladly downloaded the PDFs you posted, Jim, as it
nearly completes my collection. Happy to do my part and share mine as long
as I know no feelings will be hurt and no $$ will be lost over at RBW HQ.


Best,
Reed

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:

> Probably a more well thought-out consideration...
>
> I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to comment
> here, that would be good.
>
> There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though since
> I had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.
>
> If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same folder
> for now and host the archive.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Hey Jim,
>>
>> I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, but
>> didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed him
>> to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)
>>
>> I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and
>> useful information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to
>> give... Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the
>>> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).
>>>
>>> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com
>>> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF
>>> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I
>>> stashed these two here -
>>>
>>> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>>>
>>> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>>>
>>> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came
>>> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up
>>> a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how
>>> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was
>>> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person.
>>>
>>> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had
>>> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since
>>> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This
>>> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly
>>> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to
>>> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link
>>> for now -
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCC
>>> iU5JbeAa?dl=0
>>>
>>> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>>>
>>> - Jim
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Heard back from Grant, and it sounds like he's fine with it! Here's what
I've got:
http://notfine.com/rivreader/

Includes RR 12 - 35 from CDs I picked up at RBW HQ a while back, 1-11 that
Jim just posted, and 41-43 from when Riv made them available on the web a
while back.

Anyone have digital copies of 36 - 40 or 44? I'd be happy to add them and
complete that collection.


Best,
Reed

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:

> Probably a more well thought-out consideration...
>
> I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to comment
> here, that would be good.
>
> There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though since
> I had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.
>
> If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same folder
> for now and host the archive.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Hey Jim,
>>
>> I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, but
>> didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed him
>> to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)
>>
>> I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and
>> useful information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to
>> give... Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the
>>> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).
>>>
>>> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com
>>> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF
>>> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I
>>> stashed these two here -
>>>
>>> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>>>
>>> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>>>
>>> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came
>>> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up
>>> a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how
>>> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was
>>> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person.
>>>
>>> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had
>>> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since
>>> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This
>>> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly
>>> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to
>>> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link
>>> for now -
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCC
>>> iU5JbeAa?dl=0
>>>
>>> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>>>
>>> - Jim
>>>
>>> cyclofi...@gmail.com / cyclofiend.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks so much to Shoji, we now have all but two(!) issues collected up
here:
http://notfine.com/rivreader/

Anyone have digital copies of Rivendell Reader 40 or 44?


Best,
Reed

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 6:38 AM, Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> I just checked and have 36-39, but I'm missing 40.
>
> Thanks,
> Shoji
>
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 9:32:02 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Hi Reed,
>> I have them. I will DM you to add them to the archive.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shoji
>> Arlington MA
>>
>> On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 4:32:44 PM UTC-4, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>>
>>> Heard back from Grant, and it sounds like he's fine with it! Here's what
>>> I've got:
>>> http://notfine.com/rivreader/
>>>
>>> Includes RR 12 - 35 from CDs I picked up at RBW HQ a while back, 1-11
>>> that Jim just posted, and 41-43 from when Riv made them available on the
>>> web a while back.
>>>
>>> Anyone have digital copies of 36 - 40 or 44? I'd be happy to add them
>>> and complete that collection.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Reed
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Cyclofiend Jim 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably a more well thought-out consideration...
>>>>
>>>> I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to
>>>> comment here, that would be good.
>>>>
>>>> There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though
>>>> since I had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.
>>>>
>>>> If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same
>>>> folder for now and host the archive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them,
>>>>> but didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed
>>>>> him to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and
>>>>> useful information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to
>>>>> give... Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Reed
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the
>>>>>> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com
>>>>>> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF
>>>>>> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I
>>>>>> stashed these two here -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came
>>>>>> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set
>>>>>> up a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized
>>>>>> how long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was
>>>>>> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I
>>>>>> had enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since
>>>>>> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This
>>>>>> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since 
>>>>>> surprisingly
>>>>>> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to
>>>>>> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link
>>>>>> for now -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCC
>>>>>> iU5JbeAa?dl=0
>>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks Tim, but I think we've got all those now. Just missing 40 and 44!


Best,
Reed

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> I have 1-39 in PDF. Always happy to share!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

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On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:25 PM iamkeith  wrote:

> I've got #44.  I'll scan this week.


That’d be swell Keith! I’m happy to put it with the others and host it if
you’d like.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Grant was kind enough to send me PDFs of Rivendell Readers 40 and 44! Now
the archive is complete:
http://notfine.com/rivreader/

Please help yourself!


Best,
Reed

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:11 PM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:

> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:25 PM iamkeith  wrote:
>
>> I've got #44.  I'll scan this week.
>
>
> That’d be swell Keith! I’m happy to put it with the others and host it if
> you’d like.
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Thanks for the BOB Gazettes and RR00! I’m riding a brevet today but will
get them uploaded as soon as I’ve got time at a computer.


Best,
Reed Kennedy
Somewhere around Martinez, CA

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 9:20 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> You'd probably want a Best Of kind of format. Maybe a project for Grant in
> retirement--published by Compass?
>
>
> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 6:28:24 AM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> It would be quite a book. I have nearly every reader— they make a stack
>> maybe a foot high.
>>
>> On Friday, May 11, 2018, Jan O.  wrote:
>>
> Thank you all for sharing the files and to Grant for giving permission.
>>> Love the idea of a coffee table book.
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

One more update! I've now added the last few files folks were kind enough
to share, including:
An index file listing all article titles, which can be searched.
RR00
BOB Gazette #1 and #2

Full credit where credit is due!

Main credit to Grant Petersen, who published these wonderful magazines
and was kind enough to let me share them. Thanks as well to all the
original authors for their thoughtful, helpful, joyous writing.

Additional thanks to:

Will, Vince, Roman and all the other great folks at Riv for supplying
the CDs that got this collection started and just generally being
great people.

Ed Fausto for RR 00.

Martin Gierke for the RR Index and BOB Gazette 1 & 2.

Cyclofiend Jim for RR 1 - 11, 41, and 42.

Shoji Takahashi for RR 36 - 39.

And Grant once again for tracking down 40 and 44.

Humbly compiled and hosted by me.


Best,
Reed

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> Well said Ana. This is a generous and special group.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 14, 2018, at 1:09 AM, Birdman  wrote:
> >
> > +1 for a coffee table book and a plug for Stumptown Printers to be
> involved in the project. Super talented folks and Eric is a big Rivendell
> fan.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question off topic mostly

[Reed Kennedy]

It depends on what you're looking to accomplish.

I spent thousands of dollars on a custom Bike Friday NWT, dreaming of
having a bike with me whenever I traveled.

After three trips I sold it at a significant loss.

A Friday is almost as much trouble to pack and carry around boxed as a
traditional bike in a Trico case. But when you get where you're going it
won't ride as well as the traditional bike.

I knew that, but bought one anyway because I thought the trailer suitcase
would be magic, allowing me to do easy point-to-point tours, flying in to
one airport and out another. In practice, the trailer was an utter dog to
pull, robbing almost all the joy from my riding. It was fragile as well,
breaking in a couple different ways in not-terribly intense use. It also
doubled the number of flat tires I got. I stopped using the trailer, and
without the trailer there's not much point to a Friday, at least for me.

They do save money on airline fees, though. The only reason I would go back
to a Friday is if I were flying with a bike several times a month on my own
dime.


Best,
Reed

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>  I've considered their bikes before, but once I realized just how
> long/high of a "stem" I'd need to get a similar position to my 60cm
> Bombadil , I cannot imagine how it feel very solid and stable compared to a
> regular frame.
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 8:28 PM Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 10:04:21 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>>
>> Sticky this thread please so readers are easy to find.
>
>
> While I agree in principle, maybe we should ask Reed about notfine.com,
> where he is hosting the files. You know, just in case, this is a temporary
> holding zone…simply because the content of interest are the files.
>
> So, Reed, what do you say?
>

Thanks for asking Benz. I’m happy to keep hosting the files there for as
long as I’m around, which will hopefully be a good long time. The cost of
hosting them is negligible, and I’m happy to cover it.

Please feel free to link, sticky, download, and otherwise share. If anyone
wants to do anything unusual with them (sell them for a profit, print them
in a book, change the content, etc) i would suggest you check with Grant
first, please.

Otherwise, please just read and enjoy!


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Tire Pressure Question

[Reed Kennedy]

I run the Grand Bois Cypres EL (marked 30mm) and the Compass Stampede Pass
EL (marked 32mm) interchangeably on my MAP. Both measure almost exactly
32mm when installed on Velocity A23 rims.

60 psi front, 70 psi rear. Rider: 200 lbs. Front load: 5 lbs. Rear load:
None.

Performs great. I'd probably drop those pressures by about 5-10 psi each
for a 35mm tire.

I highly recommend the Edison Gauss tire pressure app (available for both
iOS and Android), which is based on research done by Frank Berto and
followed up by Bicycle Quarterly:
http://www.edisongauss.com/index.php/berto-tire-pressure-app/

I'd seriously recommend against running the pressures shown on the
sidewalls. As discussed here and elsewhere at length, those are maximum
pressures, not optimal pressures. Would be like driving exactly the speed
limit all the time, without regard for corners or conditions. Perhaps
possible, but certainly not ideal.


Best,
Reed

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 7:40 AM, RichS  wrote:

> For those of you who ride 700 x 32-35 size tires (with tubes) on roads,
> what is the minimum tire pressure you're comfortable using?
>
> I realize there are factors such as rim width, tire compound and rider
> weight that influence this. Many thanks for your feedback!
>
> Best regards,
> Richard
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Re: [RBW] Tire Pressure Question

[Reed Kennedy]

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:

> I run the Grand Bois Cypres EL (marked 30mm) and the Compass Stampede Pass
> EL (marked 32mm) interchangeably on my MAP. Both measure almost exactly
> 32mm when installed on Velocity A23 rims.
>
> 60 psi front, 70 psi rear. Rider: 200 lbs. Front load: 5 lbs. Rear load:
> None.
>

And in case anyone is curious, here are the tire pressures I run on my
other bikes, similar loads:

32mm: 60 psi front, 70 psi rear
38mm: 45 psi front, 55 psi rear
42mm: 40 psi front, 45 psi rear
48mm: 35 psi front, 40 psi rear

On the 38mm tires and up I'll drop the pressure by up to 10 psi when riding
offroad. (I don't ride the bike with 32mm tires offroad.)


Best,
Reed

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Re: [RBW] Re: SF Bay Area: Bike camping on June 23rd & 24th! Final routes inside

[Reed Kennedy]

Sounds good Scott! I'll keep you in the loop.


Best,
Reed

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Scott MacDonald  wrote:

> interested!
>
> Portola is a beautiful spot.
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Re: [RBW] Coffee Making Question

[Reed Kennedy]

Allow me to share with you my wonderful, boring secret.

A thermos.

Wait! Don't go! Hear me out.

To make coffee while out on the bike, you need a lotta stuff. Stove to heat
the water. Fuel for the stove. Pot to hold the water. Coffee, maybe a
grinder. Filter. Vessel to receive the coffee. Probably water. Maybe more,
if you wanna get fancy or put stuff in the coffee. Even if you go super
minimalist with a Jetboil or the like, that's a bunch of stuff (and a
reasonable amount of complexity and weight.)

I make the coffee at home, season it to taste, put it straight in to a high
quality thermos, and seal it up. Generally it's too hot to drink for the
first hour or two, and just right a couple to a few hours in to the ride.

Thus the procedure is:

   - Find a beautiful place to stop.
   - Stop there.
   - Unscrew lid.
   - Enjoy coffee.

Cheating? Perhaps. Useful for camping? No. But it sure works for me, even
on longer bike rides. I just refill when I ride through any town with a
cafe!


Reed

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:02 AM, Jonathan D.  wrote:

> I notice a strong correlation to those who love Riv Bikes, for a love of
> coffee. On instagram I see a lot of coffee brewing bike kits for when folks
> are out on their bikes. I am curious to know what people use. If you have a
> coffee bike kit, would you share what you take with you?
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Re: [RBW] Ottolock Initial Reviews???

[Reed Kennedy]

I have an older, shorter Ottolock, almost certainly from the first batch. I
am a lucky fellow: I found it in the street last year.

Doubly lucky, because it still had the default combination: 0-0-0. That
matters because I have tried several times to pick it, and have never
managed! I've studied lock picking and physical security a fair amount, and
while I am definitely an amateur I consider myself above average at this
stuff.

I've left a bike locked up with the Ottolock and returned to find that
somebody else had also tried to pick it. (Numbers different than when I
left, bike moved a bit.) None of these fine security testers have managed
to open it either.

I use it for touring and brevets, times I won't be away from my bike long.
As a rule of thumb, I use it anytime I'd be willing to lock up a bike with
an unguarded QR front wheel.

It is seriously small and light!


Best,
Reed

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:29 PM, christian poppell 
wrote:

> Any users of the improved Ottolock out there? I heard the first batch was
> comically easy to "pick" the combination lock. They fixed it enough that
> Rivendell is now selling them. Anyone pick up the updated lock? Is 30"
> enough lock? I keep finding myself without a good locking solution for
> grocery and cafe stops. This looks like it could be a good option...
>
> Christian
> Berkeley, CA
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