Re: [RBW] Re: Gus ride shaming

[Dorothy C]

I was riding my Albastached Roadini with TRP levers on the Simi Valley 
greenway in SoCal one time when I was greeted with “Nice Klunker bars”, so 
I can relate to the misreading of bike components and styles by others. 

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 8:36:09 PM UTC rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ryan, it’s working out great so far. I’ve ridden singletrack 6 of the last 
> 9 days for roughly 125 miles. In comfort & control. No significant hand 
> issues and very much more responsive than with the Bosco. The bike is an 
> absolute blast.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 13, 2023, at 8:31 PM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>
> Looks great! Those bars look like the perfect mix of comfort while still 
> being more aggressive than the Bosco. Very nice!
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:54:48 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Wonderful pictures, Richard !
>> The first one is my favorite.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 3:33:32 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Another.
>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 13, 2023, at 3:19 PM, Edwin W  wrote:
>>>
>>> Richard,
>>>
>>>
>>> Great overhead shot of the bars. Can you post some more of the bike? I'd 
>>> love to see how the cockpit works with the rest of the bike...
>>>
>>> Learning from others,
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 8:17:49 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not really shamed but while having a really good ride at one of my 
 favorite trails I passed a couple of riders on their traditional mountain 
 bikes. They caught up to me in the parking lot when my bike was already 
 loaded into the car. They asked " was that you that passed us on a cruiser 
 bike?" And, "what kind of bike was that, a Breezer? I answered it was a 
 Rivendell. I do not think they had heard of that name. It was all good fun 
 and I took it as a compliment. I am in love with my new cockpit on this 
 bike.
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/VMbmV6jYNpQvtkNKA

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[RBW] Re: New Clem Small Sizes

[Dorothy C]

I have been wanting to change sizes on my 2019 Clem L 45cm that I built up 
from a frame. I am 5’6” with an 81cm pbh and the Clem feels just a little 
cramped. I just bought a green 50cm Platy complete, and intend swapping my 
compatible nicer parts from the Clem with those on the Platy then selling 
the Clem as a complete. Mine is the bronze green. I mostly use the Clem as 
a shopping bike and occasional commuter, so the lighter duty Platy will be 
fine for that. 

On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 9:43:26 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Well Rivendell pushes the completes and orders more of them because that 
> is what they want people to do. For completes they don't even open the 
> boxes unless you request it so the work load on them is way less. They are 
> great values if you want what they have on it but the last complete I got I 
> swapped almost everything so the end value to me wasn't great. I understand 
> it from a business perspective and am not bothered by what they are doing.
>
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 12:39:02 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> They have them in completes which is a pretty good deal. I imagine they 
>> sell better than the framesets. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:48:22 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I am thinking they either didn't get any frame stock in those sizes or 
>>> they got a comically low amount because those are the only sizes that sold 
>>> out and it was pretty much immediately. But the 52 is a popular size so I 
>>> am shocked they didn't get more stock of that.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 11:28:09 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Kim,
 It appears that both the 45cm and 52cm frame sets in dark orange and 
 forest green are both SOLD OUT from just visiting the RBW website.

 Kim Hetzel.

 On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:19:27 AM UTC-8 kims...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Is there anyone here successfully secured a small Clem (46-52) frame 
> today from the presale? I don't know if those sizes for both new colors 
> got 
> sold out quickly. 
>
> Thank you!



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[RBW] Re: Do V-O's thumb mounts 100% for sure work with Silver-1 shifters?

[Dorothy C]

I tried Silver 2’s on them and the cable path jogs over a bit and seemed to 
be straining the cable, maybe the Silver 1’s are narrower

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:42:39 AM UTC-8 brianmark...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Yup, they work. I have them on my Appaloosa with Silver shifters. 
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 8:11:34 AM UTC-5 modemm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Since I'm too impatient to wait for V-O's email response ( :D ) - can 
>> anyone confirm 100% (i.e., from personal experience) if V-O thumb mounts ( 
>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/shifters-1/products/vo-thumb-shifter-mounts-22-2-23-8
>>  
>> ) work with Rivendell's Silver-1 barend shifters without modification to 
>> either?
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day X2

[Dorothy C]

Congratulations Tim. I have a Sergio green 50cm Platy in the workstand as I 
write. I bought a complete and I’m swapping most of my parts with a Clem 
45cm (26” wheel version) which I plan to sell

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:04:01 AM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Hello Riv Bunch, 
>
> My first Riv was a 2TT Sam Hilborne that I purchased in 2017. I had an 
> Appaloosa that I sold just over a year ago. I've regretted selling my Joe 
> ever since. I even saw my old 2TT silver Appaloosa at this years Nutmeg 
> Nor'Easter. I thought about offering to buy it back but I never did ask the 
> new owner. I doubt he would have sold it back to me anyway. The only 
> consolation is that the new owner told me that he loves the bike and rides 
> it nearly every day. 
>
> While at the NNE I saw so many cool Riv's. I was talking to fellow Riv 
> Bunch member Justin Kennedy about his Platypus. My UBU (unresonable bike 
> urge) has been in high gear ever since. 
>
> I will soon become a proud Man on a Mixte and my 60cm Sergio Green 
> complete will be on the way to me very soon. I'm going to change the bars 
> right away to Billie's and will build a nicer wheelset with a Dyno hub 
> before getting it on the road. I figured if Leah can own 3 Platypus's its 
> got to be a good bike! I'm exciting for it's arrival and can't wait to ride 
> it. 
>
> The second inbound Riv is a A. Homer Hilsen frameset. I'm going to build 
> the Homer up as a drop bar road bike keeping it rackless and light as 
> possible. I am thinking about building it as a retro mod with downtube 
> shifter and some older parts. I still need to decide on that. Anyway I 
> thought I'd share the exciting news with fellow bike nerds. The Sam, Platy 
> and AHH will give me a nice collection.  I am feeling very fortunate to be 
> able to add two new bikes to my collection. N+2!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Dorothy C]

Sally did your complete include a saddle? Will said there would be, but I 
didn’t get one with mine

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 10:25:18 AM UTC-8 SallyG wrote:

> My husband's (okay, really, OUR) 50 cm purple Platy complete arrived 
> yesterday by UPS!
>
> We loaded it up asap to get it to our local bike shop before it closed 
> (not being as savvy mechanically as most of you all...but equally excited 
> for sure:)... I'd already ordered the pedals, kickstand, tape, twine, etc. 
>
> Xmas came early here in California! 
>
> Cheers to all...
>
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 9:50 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> It's so exciting! I can't wait to see your new Purple Platy and all the 
>> other new bikes out there. Gosh, now I kinda wish *I* was getting a new 
>> frame... 🤔
>>
>> Joe " wishin' and hopin' " Bernard 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They are trickling in. Mine arrives Wednesday. I hope you get your 
>>> wife’s in time! 
>>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Josh C  wrote:
>>>
>>> I was just going to ask if anyone had received theirs yet. Hoping to 
>>> put my wife's under the tree...or near it I guess. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:52:52 PM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>>
 My Mermaid Platypus 55 frame arrived today (apparently found in their 
 stock from last year). This is an *elegant* bike-to-be! All you who 
 ordered frames or bikes have a real treat coming! I’m waiting for wheels 
 to 
 be built, so plenty of time for frame-saving the tubes and ceramic coating 
 the paint before building it up. I already had a B-68 and crankset, 
 derailleurs, cassettes, brakes, stem, bars, racks, fenders, etc, so it 
 will 
 go together quickly when the wheels get here. I have a blue Sam 52 
 (caliper 
 brakes, 650B) in *really* nice condition that will likely go on the 
 market when I get the Platypus put together, btw. I’m in NC.

 On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 7:51:25 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

> Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of gold + 
> green, harlequin-style, for the purple bike. 
>
> (I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the taste 
> of a real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my mom was born 
> there and I love to visit!)
>
> S.
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:00 PM Peter Adler  
> wrote:
>
>> Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. Go to New Orleans during 
>> the season, and all the plastic beads thrown from the parade floats are 
>> in 
>> those three colors. Maybe yellow bar tape or water bottles.
>>
>> Peter "laisse les bons temps rouler sur vélo" Adler
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>
>> I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had 
>> several Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several 
>> times that a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple 
>> Paul bits on her current bike that I think will look nice with the green 
>> instead of two different purples. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Dorothy C]

Roberta that is a little strip of Newbaums rim tape for when I add the 
Burley Nomad trailer hitch so it doesn’t scratch



On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:42:38 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Oooohh. That looks lovely. I also ordered the Sergio's green. Tell me it 
> looks better in person! 
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:30:37 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Yes, Ithink it’s a beautiful build too. Choco moose bars?  I had them on 
>> my Appa and loved them   What is on your seatpost?
>>
>> Roberta 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That's a lovely bicycle, Dorothy 💚💚💚
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 1:06:48 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_0422.jpeg]Here’s mine with a lot of tranferred parts off a 
>>>> 2019 45cm Clem
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:50:41 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Definitely try the Clem saddle first. It's promoted by Riv as an 
>>>>> Actual Good Saddle, and certainly a better option for a lockup bike than 
>>>>> the spiffy/pricey Brookses we all know and love around here. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:21:26 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The website clearly says it comes with a saddle so I would give them 
>>>>>> a call. It's described as the Clem saddle though and I found the saddle 
>>>>>> that came with my Clem to be nothing more than a courtesy saddle. If 
>>>>>> thats 
>>>>>> what it is I would highly suggest purchasing a better saddle that works 
>>>>>> well for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 2:00:58 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dorothy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good question! 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We didn't even open the box because our shop was just about to close 
>>>>>>> and the owner was waiting for us...I didn't buy one, so I'm sure we'll 
>>>>>>> get 
>>>>>>> a phone call by Monday if there wasn't one in the box...and I'll alert 
>>>>>>> you:) Maybe Will can send you one separately? I know it clearly stated 
>>>>>>> there would be a saddle. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sally
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:54 AM Dorothy C  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sally did your complete include a saddle? Will said there would be, 
>>>>>>>> but I didn’t get one with mine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 10:25:18 AM UTC-8 SallyG wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My husband's (okay, really, OUR) 50 cm purple Platy complete 
>>>>>>>>> arrived yesterday by UPS!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We loaded it up asap to get it to our local bike shop before it 
>>>>>>>>> closed (not being as savvy mechanically as most of you all...but 
>>>>>>>>> equally 
>>>>>>>>> excited for sure:)... I'd already ordered the pedals, kickstand, 
>>>>>>>>> tape, 
>>>>>>>>> twine, etc. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Xmas came early here in California! 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers to all...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 9:50 AM Joe Bernard  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's so exciting! I can't wait to see your new Purple Platy and 
>>>>>>>>>> all the other new bikes out there. Gosh, now I kinda wish *I* was 
>>>>>>>>>> getting a 
>>>>>>>>>> new frame... 🤔
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joe " wishin' and hopin' " Bernard 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Dorothy C]

Tim it does 

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 6:11:26 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:

> Roberta that is a little strip of Newbaums rim tape for when I add the 
> Burley Nomad trailer hitch so it doesn’t scratch
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:42:38 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Oooohh. That looks lovely. I also ordered the Sergio's green. Tell me it 
>> looks better in person! 
>>
>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:30:37 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Ithink it’s a beautiful build too. Choco moose bars?  I had them on 
>>> my Appa and loved them   What is on your seatpost?
>>>
>>> Roberta 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's a lovely bicycle, Dorothy 💚💚💚
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 1:06:48 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_0422.jpeg]Here’s mine with a lot of tranferred parts off 
>>>>> a 2019 45cm Clem
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:50:41 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Definitely try the Clem saddle first. It's promoted by Riv as an 
>>>>>> Actual Good Saddle, and certainly a better option for a lockup bike than 
>>>>>> the spiffy/pricey Brookses we all know and love around here. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:21:26 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The website clearly says it comes with a saddle so I would give them 
>>>>>>> a call. It's described as the Clem saddle though and I found the saddle 
>>>>>>> that came with my Clem to be nothing more than a courtesy saddle. If 
>>>>>>> thats 
>>>>>>> what it is I would highly suggest purchasing a better saddle that works 
>>>>>>> well for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 2:00:58 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Dorothy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good question! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We didn't even open the box because our shop was just about to 
>>>>>>>> close and the owner was waiting for us...I didn't buy one, so I'm sure 
>>>>>>>> we'll get a phone call by Monday if there wasn't one in the box...and 
>>>>>>>> I'll 
>>>>>>>> alert you:) Maybe Will can send you one separately? I know it clearly 
>>>>>>>> stated there would be a saddle. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sally
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:54 AM Dorothy C  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sally did your complete include a saddle? Will said there would 
>>>>>>>>> be, but I didn’t get one with mine
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 10:25:18 AM UTC-8 SallyG wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My husband's (okay, really, OUR) 50 cm purple Platy complete 
>>>>>>>>>> arrived yesterday by UPS!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We loaded it up asap to get it to our local bike shop before it 
>>>>>>>>>> closed (not being as savvy mechanically as most of you all...but 
>>>>>>>>>> equally 
>>>>>>>>>> excited for sure:)... I'd already ordered the pedals, kickstand, 
>>>>>>>>>> tape, 
>>>>>>>>>> twine, etc. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Xmas came early here in California! 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers to all...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 9:50 AM Joe Bernard  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's so exciting! I can't wait to see your new Purple Platy and 
>>>>>>>>>>> all the other new bikes out there. Gosh, now I kinda wish *I* was 
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Dorothy C]

Oops Roberta Burley Travoy - I own one of each, I thought I was getting 
confused. Pam Murray also owns a Burley Travoy trailer that she has 
pictured on her Instagram. 

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 6:11:57 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:

> Tim it does 
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 6:11:26 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> Roberta that is a little strip of Newbaums rim tape for when I add the 
>> Burley Nomad trailer hitch so it doesn’t scratch
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:42:38 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> Oooohh. That looks lovely. I also ordered the Sergio's green. Tell me it 
>>> looks better in person! 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:30:37 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, Ithink it’s a beautiful build too. Choco moose bars?  I had them 
>>>> on my Appa and loved them   What is on your seatpost?
>>>>
>>>> Roberta 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 4:14:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a lovely bicycle, Dorothy 💚💚💚
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 1:06:48 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: IMG_0422.jpeg]Here’s mine with a lot of tranferred parts off 
>>>>>> a 2019 45cm Clem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:50:41 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Definitely try the Clem saddle first. It's promoted by Riv as an 
>>>>>>> Actual Good Saddle, and certainly a better option for a lockup bike 
>>>>>>> than 
>>>>>>> the spiffy/pricey Brookses we all know and love around here. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:21:26 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The website clearly says it comes with a saddle so I would give 
>>>>>>>> them a call. It's described as the Clem saddle though and I found the 
>>>>>>>> saddle that came with my Clem to be nothing more than a courtesy 
>>>>>>>> saddle. If 
>>>>>>>> thats what it is I would highly suggest purchasing a better saddle 
>>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>>> works well for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 2:00:58 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Dorothy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good question! 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We didn't even open the box because our shop was just about to 
>>>>>>>>> close and the owner was waiting for us...I didn't buy one, so I'm 
>>>>>>>>> sure 
>>>>>>>>> we'll get a phone call by Monday if there wasn't one in the box...and 
>>>>>>>>> I'll 
>>>>>>>>> alert you:) Maybe Will can send you one separately? I know it clearly 
>>>>>>>>> stated there would be a saddle. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sally
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:54 AM Dorothy C  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sally did your complete include a saddle? Will said there would 
>>>>>>>>>> be, but I didn’t get one with mine
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 10:25:18 AM UTC-8 SallyG wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My husband's (okay, really, OUR) 50 cm purple Platy complete 
>>>>>>>>>>> arrived yesterday by UPS!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We loaded it up asap to get it to our local bike shop before it 
>>>>>>>>>>> closed (not being as savvy mechanically as most of you all...but 
>>>>>>>>>>> equally 
>>>>>>>>>>> excited for sure:)... I'd already ordered the pedals, kickstand, 
>>>>>>>>>>> tape, 
>>>>>>>>>>> twine, etc. 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Dorothy C]

I can make February 17th too. I am in Simi Valley but can drive to a meet 
up with a bike on the car. 

On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 11:37:23 AM UTC-8 philip@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Can I come without a Riv, just to look at all ya’lls Rivs?
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Elliot Babin  wrote:
>
> Hi group, long time reader first time poster. I'm an atlantis owner in 
> West LA and would love to join up for a February ride. any of those dates 
> work for me
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 9:14:36 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Yes!
>> I was just thinking it was time for another LA ride.
>>
>> I’d be available:
>> Monday the 12th
>> &
>> Saturday the 17th
>>
>> Thanks for suggesting it,
>> k.
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 9:53 AM, isaac ramos  wrote:
>>
>> Sound great! Any of these dates work  for me
>>
>>
>> IR
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Tony Lockhart  wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>> Anybody free for an early February meet up and ride? Ted D. is in town 
>> during the week of the 12th, so this seems like a great opportunity for a 
>> fun, super causal ride.
>>
>> Sunday the 11th 
>> Monday the 12th (state holiday)
>> Saturday the 17th
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:34:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm interested. If the date happens to fall in the second half of the 
>>> month, I'll do my best to be there! First one was a great time. Thanks 
>>> again to Houston and everyone who came out. 
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 9:42 AM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>>>
 Definitely! 
 I was just thinking we should do this again this summer.
 I've met some new, not-on-the-google-group L.A. Riv riders to add to 
 the mix this next time too.
 k.

 On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 6:41 AM Bryce Dwyer  wrote:

> I am! Saturday mornings are best for me but can swing a Friday now and 
> then. There’s also July 3rd, a Monday that se folks may have off. 
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 10:13 PM Tony Lockhart  
> wrote:
>
>> Anybody available for a group ride in July? 
>>
>> @Houston - Thanks for sharing the folder with photos.
>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:08:28 PM UTC-7 tellyoutoday wrote:
>>
>>> This was a great time, thanks for putting it together, Houston. 
>>> Really nice meeting everyone!
>>>
>>> Neale
>>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 So sorry to have missed this!

 Looks like it was a hoot.

 Let plan another ride soon.

 k.

 On May 28, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Ben Adrian  
 wrote:

 Super fun!

 A good pile of Rivs. A number of other cool bikes. Even two e-bikes.
 Great conversation, everyone was super positive. Total type 1 fun.

 See you all at the next one!

 Ben

 On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 9:28:47 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> Great photos! I’ll definitely be at the next one. 
>
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It was really nice meeting everyone today. Thanks for putting 
>> this together, Houston! -Matt
>>
>> [image: 52930629896_37f8dac6c8_k.jpg]
>> [image: 52931014820_aa47186b7d_k.jpg]
>> [image: 52931069163_9fa788d6e4_k.jpg]
>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 8:27:54 AM UTC-7 chris@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here, see you all in a bit. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Bryce Dwyer  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all — on my way but will likely arrive right at 9:00
>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 9:56:23 AM UTC-7 Houston Wilson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 I'm looking forward to seeing y'all this Saturday at Griffith 
 for our LA Riv meet-up! All riders are welcome, Riv bike owners or 
 not. 
 Originally, the meet-up was for 8 AM, but I want to push it back 
 an hour to 
 start in some warmer weather. If anyone isn't cool with this, we 
 can always 
 go back to the og time, just LMK.

 *As a reminder, here are the details:*

 When: 9 AM 
 Where: Franklin's Cafe across from the Greek at 2650 N Vermont 
 Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90027 
 
 Route: Loop around Vista del Valle to the Observatory around 10 
 mi with 1k ft. of climbing

 Optional Extras: If people want, we can

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Dorothy C]

My son is planning to come too, he has a 55cm lime Platy from the first run

On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:11:50 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I would recommend minimal singletrack to keep this ride as inclusive as 
> possible. Not all Riv riders have extra wide tires / experience on dirt. 
> (Not speaking for myself, I prefer dirt) Don't wanna scare anyone off! The 
> more the merrier. 
>
> Wasn't able to visit AllezLA as they were closed on Tuesday. Will post 
> ride beta here as I gather it from friends / perhaps a future visit. 
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 5:12:41 PM UTC-8 Donzaemon wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a fun ride. Wish I was still local!
>>
>> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 5:04:07 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm fine with 30+ miles and fire roads; not so sure about any kind of 
>>> steep or technical single-track (not sure what you mean by flowy, 
>>> Riv-friendly single-track, P.W.. I've done a limited amount of single-track 
>>> with my mountain bike, and I've gotten off and walked on steep, rocky 
>>> parts, and I haven't taken my Appaloosa on any of that type of trail. I 
>>> know the bike can do it; I'm just not sure I can :)  Overall, though, the 
>>> path and plan you suggest sounds fun, P.W.!  
>>>
>>> How early is early? I'm an early riser, and I have to drive in from 
>>> South Orange County. Google says it will take me 1:30 hours to get to 
>>> Allez. 
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:09 PM Tony Lockhart  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just wondering what the fitness, technical ability, and comfort level 
 of people are. While I've never taken my bike on single track, I love to 
 try out some flowy curves and fire roadsand I'm quite happy to do 30+ 
 miles on mixed terrain, especially if we get an early start. I'm super 
 flexible.

 How are others feeling? I'd rather defer to the group, in favor of 
 getting more people to attend. The more, the merrier, IMO.


 @Armand - Glad to hear that you'll be visiting Allez. Perhaps you can 
 let us know if any good ideas or routes come up when you chat with Kyle. I 
 think it would be great if we kept the ride on this side of town. I can't 
 speak for others, but I'd welcome a future ride on the west side.

 @Phil - Great idea for a route; you've got my vote! I know Ted had 
 mentioned Cherry Canyon. Sign me up for flowy single track and a beer 
 anyday! 




 On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 4:37:01 PM UTC-8 philip@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Meeting at Allez wouldn’t be a bad idea.
>
> Riv dealers and great people, after all!
>
> I’m sure they’d be happy to host. Plus Collage coffee is down the 
> block.
>
> Highland Park to South Pas, Rosebowl over to Cherry Canyon, down 
> through the Sports Complex singletrack, ending with a beer and hot dog at 
> Walt’s is never a bad time.
>
> 20-30miles. Bunch of road, bunch of dirt. Flowy, Riv-friendly single 
> track and fire roads.
>
> Or there’s Mt Washington - Elysian - Griffith. Although less fun.
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 7, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Armand Kizirian  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Safe to say a Riv is not required to join the ride. I will definitely 
> be inviting a few people who would thoroughly appreciate being surrounded 
> by Rivendells, despite not owning one. 
>
> Tony, I used to organize routes/rides/tours for small and large 
> groups. I'm in Santa Monica so I'm not as familiar with great places to 
> ride on the east side. I think a jaunt through frogtown/la river/griffith 
> park could be great. I'll be going to Glendale tomorrow and can stop by 
> Allez LA and pick their brain some, especially if Kyle is there. 
>
> What kind of mileage are you thinking? Is this a morning meetup ride? 
>
> Let's doo this. Good incentive for me to finish my Playtpus by 
> then too :). 
>
> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 9:22:54 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, so cool to see this happening! I’ve been mostly lurking here; got 
>> my Appaloosa last August and I ride it in Orange County. I’d love to 
>> join a 
>> ride and February 17th will probably work (family plans permitting). 
>> Question: How long/demanding will the ride be? I’m usually a solo rider 
>> and 
>> with my Appaloosa I’m more of a joy rider than a racer.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:47:39 AM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>> Anybody free for an early February meet up and ride? Ted D. is in 
>>> town during the week of the 12th, so this seems like a great 
>>> opportunity 
>>> for a fun, super causal ride.
>>>
>>> Sunday the 11th 
>>> Monday the 12th (state holiday)
>>> Saturday the 17th
>>

[RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

[Dorothy C]

Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a custom 
color Platy. 

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Leah -
>
> I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you smile 
> loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.
>
> Enjoy !
>
> Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. 
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly Bike 
>> Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness adds to the 
>> MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use them. I 
>> think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the center 
>> bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more fender and tire.
>>
>> Name that bike "Varod". 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham 
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came 
>>> with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO brake 
>>> levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly fast and 
>>> everything was silver 4 months later. 
>>>
>>> But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and Paul 
>>> sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but currently, 
>>> they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened to have any of 
>>> their pink levers laying around that they would be willing to sell me. I 
>>> got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me to an employee 
>>> I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so fun, right from 
>>> the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him my pics via 
>>> email) and we made a plan. 
>>>
>>> We colored it all. 
>>>
>>> The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of it. 
>>>
>>> The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The envelope 
>>> had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just because, 
>>> with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever seen. Swoon! 
>>> I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami inside. I uncovered 
>>> the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So beautiful. 
>>> Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, rose color. 
>>>
>>> I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this 
>>> experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on its 
>>> way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces back 
>>> in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the shop. 
>>> I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I said, “I 
>>> have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who wants 
>>> to see what is in these boxes?” 
>>>
>>> So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate little 
>>> parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, stuff I had 
>>> never seen. 
>>>
>>> “What’s this?” I asked, holding up a flat, wooden thing with Paul 
>>> emblems. 
>>>
>>> “It’s a carpenter’s pencil,” said the mechanic. I gave it to him.
>>>
>>> I left the bike with them and I should have it in the next couple/few 
>>> days, depending on how long the blizzard rages for. Not that I’ll get to 
>>> ride and try those beautiful Paul parts out; we are getting up to a foot of 
>>> snow! For now they are only a visual treat. I can’t even imagine how 
>>> enamored I will be when I get to actually USE the brakes. 
>>>
>>> And what nice people. I was not expecting them to be so personable! I 
>>> have heard they are a small operation, but they *are* famous in their 
>>> own right - celebrity machinists, really - yet so kind to a layperson like 
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Here’s the photo I got before the parts shipped. “Whatcha think?” he 
>>> asked. 
>>>
>>> Oh, he knew. He knew he knocked it straight outta the park.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: RBW HQ visit

[Dorothy C]

If you can swing it, the Mike Plumpatire is a nice pick up item. I ended up 
mailing one to Oakland that I had bought for my son, I’m in Los Angeles, so 
I just kept the extra one to keep at work. They are really efficient, and 
have the double head for Presta / Schrader

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:08:05 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> And in all fairness my aesthetic is like crossing a classy Rivendell bike 
> with a Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper from the 90s... so his observations are 
> fair. 
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 3:55:13 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey y'all
>>
>> I am planning a trip to SF in March, and was thinking of visiting HQ in 
>> Walnut Creek. I have two Rivs, and no real need to visit, except that I am 
>> a huge fan of the brand, the employees, the culture, etc. It's always been 
>> a dream of mine to visit and meet some/all of the crew.
>>
>> My dream visit consists of, show up, shoot the shit with the whole crew, 
>> get a mini tour, and ride off into the sunset on a group ride. I understand 
>> this is not the reality, and that you need an appointment to go on a 
>> weekday, and that Saturdays there's likely only 2-4 people there. So I 
>> would like to hear some experiences of the reality. Has anyone made the 
>> pilgrimage to RBWHQ "just because"? Did you make an appointment? Go on a 
>> Saturday?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks B68 Video

[Dorothy C]

I like the gumball machine filled with brake boss paint protection caps at 
30 seconds in

On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 6:25:31 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looks great just from the glimpse of it. What kind of custom are you 
> having built up? Is it road-ish? All-rounder? Traditional geometry? The I'm 
> curious to see the red bits with the purple... that'll be unique.
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 7:36:01 PM UTC-5 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>
>> I no longer ride Brooks saddles, but I am a big fan of this video 
>> .
>>  
>> My new custom is enshrined in it. Apparently Mark had it in the stand when 
>> Brian came around filming. You can tell that it's not a purple Platypus as 
>> it has an RBW custom head badge and is fitted with Tektro red anodized 
>> V-brakes.
>>
>> Look for it at 0:51 seconds.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto R10

[Dorothy C]

Here is a pic of one on Vince’s Clem, from the staff bikes area of the Riv 
site. I think the issue you would run in to is that the down slope of the 
R-10 would impinge on the tire on such a small bike. If you can find one, 
the Nitto R-50 might work better - that is the QR bag holder, but you would 
need to use a saddle with regular unsprung rails, and as vertical as 
possible at the back - a B17 works, but a Cambium doesn’t. I do that 
sometimes with a Slimsucker bag on my 47cm Roadini

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/vinces-59cm-clem


On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 9:43:31 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Thinking about getting a R10 as a bag support - for a small Fab's Chest.  
> This is on my back up Schwinn.  I set it up just like my Betty Foy in case 
> I ever need any parts.  Concerns are that I have a 26.6 seatpost and it 
> says 26.8.  I guess I could get a shim.  Would it hold?  How much is the 
> weight limit for the rack?  And I'm not sure if I have enough seat post to 
> put the clamp.  Right now, I have the pec dec but if I put too much in the 
> bag, it starts to sag and I don't want it dragging on the tire.  

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[RBW] Re: Brake cables and housing

[Dorothy C]

You could also try dripping a little lubricant through the housings a la 
Bike Farmer on Youtube. I’ll admit that I have sprung for Analog Cycles’ 
Jagwire housings including the 5mm shifter housing, with brass ferrules and 
the Jagwire Pro or Jagwire Ultra Slick cables. Spendy but very responsive, 
and according to Analog, very long lasting, though I am in SoCal so don’t 
see a lot of wet weather. My bikes are much younger - a 2016 Appa, 2019 
Cheviot, 2020 Roadini (47cm), 2022 Roadini (50cm) and 2023 Platy. The nice 
thing about brass ferrules is that they are reusable if you are changing 
bars or bike frames. I moved three of my Jagwire cables and housings from a 
45cm Clem to the Platy complete, only reason I couldn’t swap the rear brake 
one was because the Clem is continous and the Platy has open stops on the 
down tube, and I was selling the Clem as a complete after swapping parts, 
so I needed to keep the housing intact. Once I got the Platy built, I got a 
new set of ferrules, Jagwire housing and the Jagwire Ultra Slick rear brake 
cable and felt a definite improvement in brake feel.

On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 9:39:29 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've had brake cables and housing good for 15 years on my 3 Ti frames with 
> a total of around 4 miles, rain or shine (you don't break bike frames 
> if you don't ride). The brakes worked fine throughout the 15 years and I 
> only swapped out for newer cables when I got my Roadini and noted how good 
> the brakes felt despite the longer calipers. I attributed that to the fancy 
> Shimano Optislick cable set I'd gotten on sale (https://amzn.to/3HHOdl4), 
> but after the replacement realized it was just that 15 years is probably 
> asking a bit much. But in any case it wasn't a safety issue!
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 9:21:19 AM UTC-8 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Obviously there are infinite variables (weather, amount of miles ridden, 
>> etc.), but the question is: 
>> How often do you all change your cables and housing? 
>>
>> I ride daily, often in wet conditions. My braking is sufficient, but I'm 
>> always wondering if it couldn't be a bit better with new cable and housing? 
>> Of course that requires removing my years old, many layered shellac over 
>> cloth tape
>>
>> Just curious.
>>
>> John
>> Portland, OR
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Dorothy C]

Looks like the rain forecast for LA and Glendale has moved out a few days. 
I would prefer Feb 17th as I know my son can make that day. March 16th 
would definitely be a no go - I will have family in town from the UK. 

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 8:43:28 AM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> March 2nd would be best for me! Will be gone the following weeks in the 
> month. 
>
> I HAVE been dialing in my rain-commuting setup, but it would be a shame to 
> not enjoy a sunny day with all of you. 
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 3:13:06 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Earlier in March is better for me - March 2 or March 16 would be best, 
>> but I can do March 9. Already have other outdoorsy plans for March 23rd 
>> (hiking Santiago Peak here in OC) and March 30 is spring break. 
>>
>> I hope we can find a time in early March - would love to ride with fellow 
>> Rivs (never have met another Riv rider in person yet!)
>>
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 3:05:10 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> I’d be available any Saturday in March 👍 
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:
>>>
>>> I just arrived in San Gabriel and am here until the 18th. I’m hoping to 
>>> ride pretty much every day while here. Happy to meet up, but I don’t have a 
>>> car so it will need to be riding distance. Shame about the forecast for 
>>> next weekend, hopefully that will change!
>>>
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI
>>>
>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Brian Cunningham  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If we’re thinking Saturdays, I’m free for either 3/2 or 3/30, if that 
>>> works for y’all.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 7:35 AM, Tony Lockhart  wrote:
>>>
>>> *Calling all fair weather cyclists: *Looks like 2 inches of rain in 
>>> the forecast for Saturday the 17th. I'm happy to postpone or suffer through 
>>> the rain, provided there's a hot coffee stop along the route. 
>>>
>>> How are other folks feeling? Wondering if it would be prudent to push 
>>> the ride date out to March.
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 11:00:39 AM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>
>>>> My son is planning to come too, he has a 55cm lime Platy from the first 
>>>> run
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:11:50 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would recommend minimal singletrack to keep this ride as inclusive 
>>>>> as possible. Not all Riv riders have extra wide tires / experience on 
>>>>> dirt. 
>>>>> (Not speaking for myself, I prefer dirt) Don't wanna scare anyone off! 
>>>>> The 
>>>>> more the merrier. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't able to visit AllezLA as they were closed on Tuesday. Will post 
>>>>> ride beta here as I gather it from friends / perhaps a future visit. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 5:12:41 PM UTC-8 Donzaemon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like a fun ride. Wish I was still local!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 5:04:07 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm fine with 30+ miles and fire roads; not so sure about any kind 
>>>>>>> of steep or technical single-track (not sure what you mean by flowy, 
>>>>>>> Riv-friendly single-track, P.W.. I've done a limited amount of 
>>>>>>> single-track 
>>>>>>> with my mountain bike, and I've gotten off and walked on steep, rocky 
>>>>>>> parts, and I haven't taken my Appaloosa on any of that type of trail. I 
>>>>>>> know the bike can do it; I'm just not sure I can :)  Overall, though, 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> path and plan you suggest sounds fun, P.W.!  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How early is early? I'm an early riser, and I have to drive in from 
>>>>>>> South Orange County. Google says it will take me 1:30 hours to get to 
>>>>>>> Allez. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:09 PM Tony Lockhart  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just wondering what

Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Dorothy C]

Saturday sounds good Tony. Do the folks at AllezLA have any ideas for a 
route? I know Will Keating from Rivendell did a ride with them recently. 

On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 10:29:13 PM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> I think we should stick with Saturday, especially since Ted's in town (San 
> Gabriel area)..any why not offer an optional meetup on March 2nd for 
> die hard members??
>
> Arman, are you good with planning out routes? I vote you in charge! I'll 
> admit that route planning is a weakness for mehaha, I just learned 
> around Strava a month ago. I usually ride around aimlessly and spend time 
> looking at the architecture and trees around town. I'm sure there are a ton 
> of hangout spots in the map below, and hopefully a safe/casual route. What 
> do you think? Sorry to put you on the spot!
> [image: Screenshot 2024-02-13 at 10.24.55 PM.png]
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 4:25:38 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> So who's "in charge" here? Happy to help coordinate with 
>> Houston/Tony/whomever else to get this going.  This Saturday the 17th is 
>> now clear from rain as Dorothy has mentioned, with March 2nd showing rain 
>> (yes, quite far out for a forecast, but nevertheless, 5 days is much more 
>> accurate). Shall we stick with this Saturday?
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 6:06:12 AM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the rain forecast for LA and Glendale has moved out a few 
>>> days. I would prefer Feb 17th as I know my son can make that day. March 
>>> 16th would definitely be a no go - I will have family in town from the UK. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 8:43:28 AM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> March 2nd would be best for me! Will be gone the following weeks in the 
>>>> month. 
>>>>
>>>> I HAVE been dialing in my rain-commuting setup, but it would be a shame 
>>>> to not enjoy a sunny day with all of you. 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 3:13:06 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Earlier in March is better for me - March 2 or March 16 would be best, 
>>>>> but I can do March 9. Already have other outdoorsy plans for March 23rd 
>>>>> (hiking Santiago Peak here in OC) and March 30 is spring break. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope we can find a time in early March - would love to ride with 
>>>>> fellow Rivs (never have met another Riv rider in person yet!)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 3:05:10 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I’d be available any Saturday in March 👍 
>>>>>> k.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just arrived in San Gabriel and am here until the 18th. I’m hoping 
>>>>>> to ride pretty much every day while here. Happy to meet up, but I don’t 
>>>>>> have a car so it will need to be riding distance. Shame about the 
>>>>>> forecast 
>>>>>> for next weekend, hopefully that will change!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted Durant
>>>>>> Milwaukee, WI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Brian Cunningham <
>>>>>> thisisbria...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we’re thinking Saturdays, I’m free for either 3/2 or 3/30, if 
>>>>>> that works for y’all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 7:35 AM, Tony Lockhart  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Calling all fair weather cyclists: *Looks like 2 inches of rain in 
>>>>>> the forecast for Saturday the 17th. I'm happy to postpone or suffer 
>>>>>> through 
>>>>>> the rain, provided there's a hot coffee stop along the route. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How are other folks feeling? Wondering if it would be prudent to push 
>>>>>> the ride date out to March.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 11:00:39 AM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My son is planning to come too, he has a 55cm lime Platy from the 
>>>>>>> first run
>>

Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Dorothy C]

Sounds great Ted
On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 7:53:36 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:57:53 PM UTC-8 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
> Happy to see that this is all coming together. Seems like a 7:45 to 8:00 
> roll out would be ideal, and the route possibilities above are prefect. 
> Here's a screenshot of the map starting at Allez LA; folks driving in can 
> find tons of parking on Meridian and Stradford.
>
>
> How about 7:45-8:00 arrival at Allez LA, 8:15 rollout. Then I suggest we 
> do the route the other direction from my previous suggestion, going up 
> around the Rose Bowl then across to Sierra Madre, stop for 
> coffee/tea/pastries in Sierra Madre, then return via the Cub House which, 
> if we are reasonably relaxed about the pace, should be open by the time we 
> are there. If that works for people, I will post a RideWithGPS route.
>
> Off topic, but anyone know if the Velo Retro rides are still happening? I 
> remember coming across Chuck around 2008ish at Buster's Coffee shop in 
> South Pas (currently called Jones Coffee Roasters). Super nice guy, and 
> always on an amazing bike. In fact, seeing him ride in Birkenstocks 
> resonated with me.
>
>
> Indeed the ride is still happening, first Sunday of every month, though 
> alas poor Chuck hasn't been able to ride a bike for a while. My last meet 
> up with him was in fact at Jones Coffee Roasters. He still likes to hang 
> out there. 
>
> Ted Durant
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Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Dorothy C]

I’m definitely coming. Will be on a 50cm Sergio Green Platy

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 5:41:30 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com wrote:

> Excellent; thank you, Ted!
>
> Look forward to riding with all of you on Saturday!
> Heike (Appaloosa from OC)
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 3:55 PM Ted Durant  wrote:
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>> Ride With GPS route:
>> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/45602857
>>
>> Ted Durant
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[RBW] Re: Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[Dorothy C]

Sorry for the sideways photos

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 6:29:51 AM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:

> Mine aren’t so glamorous as the beautiful shots others have posted in this 
> thread, but this was my Tuesday night ride this past week to catch the LA 
> Metrolink train from Chatstworth to Simi Valley. I had needed the pannier 
> to stow my small desktop tower PC to take it back in to work after our Xmas 
> break, when I briefly have to check the systems each day.  Bike is a small 
> Clem, bought as a frame and built up by me.
> A scene of unusual rain in SoCal.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 5:23:53 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>
>> Oh  those are lovely Moonlight photos Takashi !  I agree that about 
>> riding by Moonlight ... really just being outdoors in some/any place quiet 
>> is itself magical. Better to have driven there that to not be there at all 
>> :-)
>>
>> I like to call such illumination "The Midnight Sun"  as truly ... The 
>> Sun never sleeps.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-5 Takashi wrote:
>>
>>> Moon was shining so brightly last night that I decided to revisit 
>>> Shirakawa and take photos of ice pillars in moonlight.
>>>
>>> To be honest, I "cheated" this time - drove my car to the place and rode 
>>> my bike around for a short distance.
>>> It was a fun ride though. Riding alone in moonlight, very silent, 
>>> enjoying beautiful scenery. 
>>>
>>  
>>
>>> Takashi
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Dyno Refresh: Platypus Edition

[Dorothy C]

I installed my dyno myself, so I don’t know how it is usually routed to the 
back, I just thought it might get fiddly to change shifter cables, and also 
that the back and forth motion might rub the rear light housing. My IQX 
lights have the cables and housing integral to the front light body, I 
think, so they aren’t easy to swap out if they get damaged. 

On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 3:01:01 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> I love my shop for many reasons but I give them 5 demerits for their dyno 
> expertise. They assembled my Platypus in January 2022 and it was never 
> strung up attractively, and then the rear light started shorting out, and 
> then I paid for them to fix it a few times and then I gave up. I called 
> Analog.
>
> Analog said send them the lights. They had to do extensive rewiring AND I 
> had to get a new coaxial box because that was all corroded. I have no idea 
> how I managed that after only one year, but we all have our talents.
>
> The lights came back to me today and I feel like the way I strung the 
> wires looks pretty great, but we will have to see if function is as good as 
> form. I have never, ever messed with dyno before, but I took photos of the 
> bike from before and tried not to make it worse.
>
> Photos coming in the next post…
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] ISO: Nitto R10

[Dorothy C]

Here is a picture of one on Vince’s Clem that was posted to the staff bikes 
area of the blog. When I asked him about it he confirmed it was an R10 on 
the bike. Bag hikes up in front, which might not work depending on how much 
you need to put in your bag and your aesthetic sensibilities. Not being 
sarcastic, we all have our sensibilities when it comes to setting up a nice 
bike. 

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/vinces-59cm-clem

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:43:35 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> My own question got me searching the web for pictures of the R10 working 
> adequately.  I didn't see anything that convinced me it would, however I 
> did find this neat alternative:
>
> Simworks burrito rack.
>
> https://www.sim.works/products/burrito-rack?variant=44004249927934
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 11:47:22 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Have you previously gotten a Saddlesack to work with an R10 rack?  I 
>> couldn't.   
>>
>> That rack seems more suited to traditional bags, like a Caradice, that 
>> are improved by swinging them away from the seatpost and out from under the 
>> saddle.  Rivendell (sackville) bags are kind of hung from the center of 
>> mass, and only reall work when allowed to hang level, under the saddle, and 
>> strapped to the seatposti front.
>>
>> If I'm wrong, I'd love to see photos of somebody successfully mating the 
>> two.  Otherwise, just something to consider before buying.
>>
>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 8:34:18 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jared. I could not find one here or anywhere for that matter. Ordered 
>>> from Bluelug & had it in less than a week. And, even with shipping from 
>>> Japan less $$ than domestic sources.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2023, at 9:45 PM, jaredwilson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey group,
>>>
>>>
>>> Acquired another SaddleSack medium and find myself needing a Nitto R10 
>>> to support it.
>>>
>>> Would love to trade for a Riv Shiny rear rack or Marks rack, or purchase 
>>> if need be.
>>>
>>> Please respond off list at jared wilson327 at gmail
>>>
>>> Thanks :)
>>>
>>> jared
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

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I can’t really advise on clothes, because I sew most of the clothes I wear, 
but unfortunately my hand made skirts and dresses don’t really work on the 
bike. I wore a handmade grey dress recently when I was using my Cheviot, 
which has an unguarded triple, on my car’s hitch mount rack, and I managed 
to plant a big chainring mark on the front of the skirt while lifting the 
bike onto the rack. Luckily I was able to get the stain out by rubbing it 
with Mexican Zote laundry soap and cold water, then laundering as normal. 
My favorite pants for bike riding were the sadly discontinued REI Kornati, 
which have a little horizontal loop at knee level on the outside of each 
side of the knee, and a vertical hanging strap on the insides of the legs, 
with two parts of plastic snap on the end of the strap. They are 
unnoticeable when then pants are worn unrolled, but gather up each side of 
the legs when the straps are snapped through the loop. My handmade jeans 
are all narrow enough legs that I just fold them up out of the way, but my 
company’s dress code only allows jeans on Fridays. 
For footwear I like Xero shoes, which are very thin soled. I have the Mesa 
Trail, Kelso and a knit slip on style called Oswego which I don’t think 
they carry any more. They work well for my small wide feet and have enough 
grip on the pedals. 
On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:03:42 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> What a delight to wake up to Luke’s post. I am completely charmed. I love 
> these photos and that Luke has thought his style through and made very 
> specific decisions about what to wear. I love black on black and the JMMs 
> all the jewelry because “men need accessories”!  
>
> You and the bike look awesome. This is so fun. 
>
> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Luke Hendrickson  
> wrote:
>
> I rly like wearing all black for ease and cause I’m super lazy. My go to 
> is Ben Davis pants cut into shorts (I like pants that sit at my true waist 
> and have roomy thighs). I also love Vans since they grip flat pedals very, 
> very well. I couple that fit with a WoolyWarm when it’s chillier. I live 
> that sweater, but it’s not the most fashionable lol. I don’t have riding 
> specific sunglasses so I just wear my JMMs and I also wear all of my 
> jewelry bc rings are cool and men need accessories. 
>
>
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 6:46:40 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> Well hey, you can make your own pant leg keepers by purchasing some 
>> elastic bungee cord and a cord lock. Any camping/outdoor store sells it by 
>> the foot and cord locks come in a variety of shapes. That way you can get 
>> creative and wrap your leg as high or low as you like by criss-crossing or 
>> any other pattern you come up with ! I've even used good ol' bandanas in a 
>> pinch. With the cord your pants retain their color as all you see is the 
>> little black cord wrapped around your leg. Some places may have have 
>> colored cord. A sewing supplier might also. 
>>
>> I noticed in the photo Leah posted of her ankle with grease stain the 
>> cuff appears , how do I say . all flared out. I'd suggest when you wrap 
>> your leg,  pull your pants taught at the front, then fold the excess fabric 
>> around the outside of your leg so there's no excess fabric hanging out. 
>> Then put on your straps, leaving enough play for the knee to bend freely. 
>>
>> As for what I wear, since I've gone back to deep drop bar road bike 
>> setups, I'm more in to road wear than ever as it's very functional and 
>> serves a very specific purpose. I had already been wearing bib shorts for 
>> the last 5 years, but since going lower and lower in drop none of my 
>> previous clothing works, there's, there's too much bulk and zippers rubbing 
>> on shorts, none of which is any good !
>> I do have my own style and have a preference for certain color and 
>> combos. Even riding road clothes, you can dress "nice'. . as it's 
>> simply a mater of self respect. Most sold colors of subtle combos of 
>> complimentary colors, no silly patterns or other weird things some clothes 
>> designers come up with. Mostly it's European styles as I find their sense 
>> of function and style very relatable, unlike American stuff !  
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[RBW] Re: Butternut touch up?

[Dorothy C]

I know from my experience of buying a 2020 orange Roadini (47cm) and a 2022 
orange Roadini (50 cm), the colors are very close but not identical. My 
2020 is a very slightly richer, darker shade with a tiny hint of flake in 
it whereas the 2022 color is a bit lighter and brighter with no flake. I 
prefer the 2020 orange. 
On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:18:48 AM UTC-7 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Howdy folks.
>
> Is there such a thing, other than as a science experiment?  Are the new 
> Homers the same color as the old Sam Appas, etc?
>
> Thanks, Doug
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[RBW] Re: Homers Going Live in a Few Minutes

[Dorothy C]

I have been wondering all week what G.A.S. meant, and ran across it on the 
Path Less Pedalled Sam thread - gear acquisition syndrome. I first came 
across the idea in Mr Money Mustache’s blog where he calls it the Purchase 
Justification Machine. I have 5 Rivendells now, and I am trying to quell 
the urge to replace sizes on two of them - my 2015 46cm Appaloosa and 2019 
45cm Clem, both 26” whees, where technically the next size up would be a 
better fit and would open up 27.5 mountain bike tire sizes, but I am happy 
with the setups I have on them now. My other three are 47cm 2020 Roadini 
with Noodles, 50cm Roadini with Albastache and a 2019 55cm Cheviot with 
Albatross bars. 
I didn’t notice until recently that the 2023 45cm Clem L is now a 27.5/650b 
wheel size, so there’s that. On the other hand, my Appaloosa is one of 2 
bikes I own that can squeeze inside my Scion xB if I don’t have the Saris 
trunk mount rack on the car, the other being the small Roadini, and my 
current Clem fits the local bus racks, which the next size up probably 
wouldn’t. Most of my riding is multi modal commuting so I need to keep that 
in mind too. 

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:28:48 PM UTC-7 Mark Schneider wrote:

> I still have my 2011, and it's in fine shape considering it was one of 19 
> and now one of 12. It was a standard build and all I've done is add Mafac 
> Raid brakes I found on eBay a couple of years ago that were almost NOS. I'm 
> curious if anyone has owned the both the old Waterford Homer's and the new 
> LWB model?
>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 5:08:17 PM UTC-7 lkbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Saw two people on Homer’s on my ride this morning, but I didn’t even 
>> realize there was a release today. I too love the mustard color that’s been 
>> making its rounds through the Riv lineup. 
>> On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 12:59:26 PM UTC-6 Chester wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone getting in on the latest batch of Homers?
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/homer
>>>
>>> I fought off the urge to get one by realizing that I'm still needing to 
>>> push myself to find time to ride my Roadini more, that it probably suits me 
>>> better, and the main reason why I have a strong urge to get the Homer is 
>>> the cosmetics of the fully lugged frame.
>>>
>>> Scarce garage space helps dull the G.A.S. too.
>>>
>>> Chester
>>> SF Bay Area
>>>
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Re: [RBW] "A Steamy Lug Affair" by Grant Petersen

[Dorothy C]

Probably the 2017 first run of the Roadini. I bought a grey one which has 
since been gifted to my sister, I have two orange ones now, a 650b/47cm, 
and a 700c/50cm


On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:02:22 PM UTC-7 J J wrote:

> This is a great piece, thanks, Eric! 
>
> Does anyone know which was the first production Riv that was *not* fully 
> lugged? 
>
> Thanks again! 
>
> Jim
>
> On Oct 6, 2023, at 12:28 PM, RichS  wrote:
>
> Eric, I forgot. Thank you too for posting the article!
>
> -Rich
>
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 12:22:53 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> I'm still in love with the lugs on my 2013 Hillborne:-))) Hard to believe 
>> these are on a production frame. Thank you Grant!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 7:58:00 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Two observations from reading the article. 1. The lugged bike 
>>> renaissance happened and is ongoing. 2. Neither of my two Rivendell’s are 
>>> lugged. Well, the Clem has the seat cluster…
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 5:05 PM, Ted W  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Funny you should mention this I have a couple different 3D printers, one 
>>> that prints in resin which is perfect for making positive molds for stuff 
>>> like this because the end product has very fine layer lines, and i was 
>>> thinking about how I would design my own lugs… I think you just gave me 
>>> some ideas!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 4:58 PM aeroperf  wrote:
>>>
 I keep thinking it might be easier now (2023) to do a lugged frame than 
 it was 10 years ago because…
 You can design the frame with a CAD program, design the lugs with the 
 same program, and print the lugs using a 3-D printer.  If you don’t print 
 the steel lugs themselves, you can use the 3-D printer to print a wax lug, 
 which you can then cast in steel.
 Suddenly, everything fits.  The lug fits the geometry of the tubing.  
 If you make a bigger or smaller frame, it won’t be “we only have lugs for 
 a 
 55Cm, but this is a 60Cm”, because the printer can just print the correct 
 lug.

 Having spent 45 years working in aviation, I know that the skills 
 required  to weld/braze thin walled steel tubing are every bit as 
 demanding 
 as brazing on a lug.  And the CAD tools today are outstanding.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Carrying groceries on your bike

[Dorothy C]

I have a Burley Nomad and a Burley Travoy (seat post mount). I have found 
that the axle hitch on the Nomad doesn’t fit on my little 26” Appaloosa as 
the curved drop out protector comes in too tight to allow the Nomad hitch 
to sit flat, so I leave the Nomad hitch on the Clem, and the Travoy hitch 
on the Appa.  I bought the extra shopping bags for the Travoy so loading it 
works better than the big soft sided bag it comes with.  I also have the 
choice of Backabike bags and a Nitto basket rack and Wald racer basket on 
the Clem if I am not shopping for as much stuff. The Clem is nice and 
stable with panniers - it is a 26” wheel 2019 45cm. 

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 8:21:45 AM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:

>
>> It's been a few years since I was the grocery-getter in this household, 
>> but I used to use rear panniers and a very large backpack. The heavy stuff 
>> went in the panniers or low in the backpack.
>
>
> I favour backpacks as a heavy guy (95 kg), as they enable me to use my 
> legs as shock absorbers. (I also used one for my work commute.)
>
> I tried a front basket but did not like it for any kind of load.
>
> It worked for me as I lived down a hill from my grocery stores and could 
> mostly coast home... 
>
> EricF
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

[Dorothy C]

Sarah asks “Did you even ask for input about your riding position?” No, 
poor Leah is getting bikesplained again. Lovely colors, Leah, and I hope 
Deb takes up your suggestion to make them in ivory as well. 

On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 8:26:29 AM UTC-7 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> Thanks for the kind words, Leah!  Great find with the Rivet matching grips 
> and like Joe said, the Racing Platy just looks great with either attire, 
> but of course even more autumnal now with those chestnut touches.
>
> Max - the yellow Yves Gomez looks terrific with the makeover and glad it 
> all worked out in the end despite the unfortunate turn with the 'as new' 
> claim.
>
> The pink Gravelkings were one of their annual color specials from a 
> previous year.  I forget which year these colors were specifically released 
> but stumbled upon them online somewhere even after they were discontinued.  
> I'm sure there are still some out there to be found but the limited colors 
> I believe are also always limited in model/size even with the initial 
> release.  I'm currently using 700x32 SK and SS models.
>
> I think this was the online retailer I had found the discontinued pink and 
> here is another previous limited color in the same 32mm size:
>
> https://planetcyclery.com/components/wheels-tires-tubes/tires/panaracer-gravelking-sk-tire-700-x-32-tubeless-folding-astral-blue
>
> This year's colors were turquoise and orange and looks like they did make 
> them up to 700x43 in the SS and SK this time around though only a few 
> size/color combos still seem to remain:
> https://www.panaracerusa.com/collections/gravel
>
> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 9:18:03 AM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Love the fall accessory swap out! I have zero comments about your 
>> seatpost setback because I am so captivated by those new autumnal grips. 
>> Did you even ask for input about your riding position because I don't 
>> recall seeing that in your makeover post
>>
>> Pink Gravel King tires? YES PLEASE!!
>>
>> On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 2:24:42 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love the pink. I wish I had known how much the rose anodized parts I 
>>> had would fade. They are nearly silver now. I should have put red chainring 
>>> guard/spacers/brake levers instead of rose! I did not know Gravel King came 
>>> in pink. What a resource you are! You’re as good as a RivSister, Brian!
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2023, at 9:48 PM, Coal Bee Rye Anne  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here’s my contribution for most recent bike makeover from late summer 
>>> (now nice and muddy from its last excursion when this picture was 
>>> captured.)  This was previously my front basket equipped errand runner.  I 
>>> ended up changing to the low rider rack and bags earlier than in the year 
>>> while doing some stem and saddle swaps to allow easier fine tuning before 
>>> reinstalling the bar brackets.  The rack was available while already 
>>> removed from another bike also undergoing some minor changes.  Despite 
>>> being intended as a temporary rack and basket trade between frames I 
>>> decided to stick with it once I had them mounted and enjoyed the new and 
>>> lighter build on this bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve had the pink gravelking SK tires and bartape in waiting but with no 
>>> particular build planned.  The once bright red anodized chainring guard now 
>>> faded to a pinkish hue I decided it was time to replace the mismatched 
>>> blackwall tires and add more color to complement the guard in its current 
>>> shade now with the other components somewhat solidified.  Only a few weeks 
>>> and a handful of rides on this Lizard Skinz tape, however, it has worn so 
>>> rapidly on the outer layer to already look like it needs replacing from 
>>> months of hard use so will see how quickly it wears further from here.
>>>
>>> A spare set of wheels are also now shod with purple Gravelking SS for a 
>>> more road oriented option though I mixed up the slightly different gearing 
>>> between wheels and still need to swap the tires or cogs/freewheels to 
>>> better match the gears and tread with terrain.
>>>
>>> I have unfortunately not been getting in nearly as much riding as I’d 
>>> like between work and family commitments but with four complete bikes now 
>>> in rotation with different builds I’ve otherwise been somewhat consistent 
>>> with at least alternating them.  A new personal goal is to try and ride 
>>> each at least once per week more frequently, even if just for a quick 30min 
>>> loop.  The more I ride, though, the more I tend to want to tweak things 
>>> here or there and do more make-overs!
>>>
>>> Brian Cole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover 
 thread.

 Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite 
 Platypus. I have it perfec

[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini 50CM

[Dorothy C]

What color?

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 8:48:20 AM UTC-8 James B wrote:

> I recently purchased this Roadini but due to circumstances of life, I must 
> pare down my fleet.  $1800 for local pickup in the San Diego area.  I am 
> willing to ship but buyer will be responsible for shipping. 
> 50 cm frame  PBH range of 77-83
> 9 cm Nitto stem
> 46cm Nitto bars
> Silver 2 shifters
> Nitto Seatpost
> Shimano Nexave Rear Derailleur
> Microshift Front Derailleur
> Velocity RIms laced to Shimano 105 hubs 32 hole
> Panaracer 700x38 Gravelkings
> Tektro R559 Brakes
> Silver 2 crankset
> Berthound Aravis Saddle (ti Rails)
> The bike is in perfect condition with 0 scratches. 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Saddlebag Grip R50

[Dorothy C]

Will stated recently that the R50 is discontinued, so grab one while you 
can if you want one. 

On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 4:39:31 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Ben's got it at a very good price. 
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-r50-quick-release-saddle-bag-supporter-bag_part_nitto__870-179-11/p
>
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 9:48:32 AM UTC-8 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Once upon a time I had a couple of these but swung towards carring my 
>> cargo upfront on my bikes for a few years. Now I'm back on the rear 
>> saddlebag train and want to grab one of these for my Ram. Riv is out of 
>> stock...
>>
>> Anyone holding?
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hobson-Zingo tools tried and liked?

[Dorothy C]

I like all the ones I have, which are the  pin spanner, adjustable cup 
wrench, master link pliers, the valve core tool and the bottom bracket 
tool. I bought the valve core tool to tighten down some Schwalbe valve 
cores on inner tubes with slow leaks, and it works very well for that. The 
bottom bracket tool is much more cleanly forged than the Park tool 
equivalent which I already owned. My particular Park one had some badly 
formed teeth that were preventing it from making good contact with the BB, 
which I had to file smooth. I just need to buy an adjustable wrench with 
wider jaws so I can use the Hobson one to tighten completely down, as 
unlike the Park Tool version, it doesn’t take a 3/8 inch rachet handle, but 
between the pair I got an IRD BB installed on my Platy recently. The valve 
core tool fits nicely in a cussin patch tin, so that is where I store mine, 
along with the Torx wrenches that came with my Busch and Muller IQX light, 
which I occasionally need to snug up the light hardware. 
I have the Tange cup and cone BBs on my Cheviot, Appa and my 50cm Roadini, 
which is why I bought the pin spanner and adjustable cup wrench, but I 
haven’t needed to use those yet. 

On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 10:56:12 PM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks all for your replies. From the number of responses, it seems not 
> many have tried them...but they seem to be worth it for a home mechanic.
>
> @Russell - I once went to the KC store and now my mobile is riddled with 
> ads of these fancier tools 🫠
>
> BTW Soma has a 30% sale going on if anyone is else looking to pick up some 
> of these tools or anything else from them. Thanks, Luke for the message, I 
> did see Soma has more/different HZ tools than Riv!
>
> Am Sa., 16. März 2024 um 15:54 Uhr schrieb Russell Duncan <
> rus...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I bought the HZ wire rope cutters and master link pliers, both of which 
>> work quite well. Really can’t be beat for the price. My brother gifted me 
>> these Knipex rope cutters. These are hands down the best cutters and 
>> ergonomically superior to the HZ cutters, and they have built in crimpers 
>> too. Are they worth the price? Not really, but I own other Knipex tools for 
>> electrical work. Their tools are excellent. Their small Cobra pliers and 
>> pliers wrenches are amazing, and their wire strippers are a wonder when 
>> striping wire all day. Go to the KC Tool candy store, where their tools are 
>> not just eye candy, but be careful to mind your bank account. 
>>
>> Russell Duncan
>> Western Massachusetts 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 1:48:24 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> The HZ tools are functional and really minimal/austere/basic while being 
>>> well-made and well-priced. I work for the company (Merry Sales) that sells 
>>> whatever RBW doesn’t.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:33:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I've got the chain quicklink pliers and the Cable Cutters and both are 
 great. 

 Would buy again if I needed to, and will likely replace more stuff with 
 their tools as needed.

 On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 12:25:06 PM UTC-4 peter...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Not at all fixated on the branding, just looking for tools in general. 
> I like when there is limited choice and the shop sells only what they 
> trust 
> (analog, riv..) so I wanted to get some feedback on the tools. 
>
> On Fri, 15 Mar, 2024, 8:40 pm Bill Lindsay,  wrote:
>
>> Most people consider the Mike Plumpatire floor pump to be a part of 
>> the Hobson Zingo program.  If you require explicit HZ branding on each 
>> item, the MP pump doesn't qualify.
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/mike-plumpatire-floor-pump
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 7:46:17 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I dont see a HZ floor pump on the website though...
>>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Mar, 2024, 11:10 am Adam Moss,  wrote:
>>>
 Their floor pump is awesome!

 Best,
 Adam 

 On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 9:12:56 PM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Looking for recommendations for any HZ tools that you have tried 
> and would recommend...
>
> Thank you
> peter
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[RBW] Re: LA Craigslist bike purchase assist?

[Dorothy C]

Looks suspicious - they can’t spell Rivendell either. Check the serial 
number on Bike Index or 529 garage

On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 8:18:11 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> Riv Folk, 
>
> Anyone could potentially assist with lobbing this to Michigan?.. 
>
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/santa-monica-touring-bike-lugged-steel/7735511488.html
>  
>
> - Max "my RTP ship has come in?" in A2
>

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[RBW] Re: Tektro 559 pad alignment

[Dorothy C]

Mine are at the identical height on my 47cm Roadini. I can see your 
adjustment screw is quite backed out - see on top of the ND side arm, try 
screwing that in a bit

On Saturday, May 4, 2024 at 6:50:09 AM UTC-7 dane...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey!
>
> Well I crashed my roadini a month or so ago and bent the fork, but 
> thankfully Riv had another one and the same color for me.  Ever since I put 
> the new fork on the pads on my tektro 559s have to be aligned differently, 
>  a bit higher in the slot on the drive side and lower in the slot on the 
> non drive side. The brake is centered on the rim. Any ideas ? Pics 
> attached.  Thanks.
>
> Dan
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Cub House's Los Angeles Invitational Ride - May 18

[Dorothy C]

It’s too far for me, and I have early Mother’s day plans with my son and 
his wife, but have fun

On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:27:05 PM UTC-7 in...@brentknepper.com wrote:

> Armand, you gotta do it on the platy! now that you've finished building it 
> up, what a perfect chance to get some paint chips from the triple scoop
>
> hope you can share some of the experience on here for us poor souls unable 
> to get out there for the weekend
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:50:10 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> @Brian -- Haha, if by double scoop, you mean to swing by Jones' coffee 
>> for some Fosselman's ice cream, I'm with you brother!!  (:
>>
>> @Neale -- I'll definitely be there on Sunday, and intermittently on 
>> Saturday (as time permits). Kinda want to buy a Cub House hoodie, so 
>> this'll be the perfect excuse to stop by. Keep me posted if you do the 
>> basket ridecurrently trying to schedule childcare so I can attend.  
>> /tony-crosses-fingers 
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 10:10:59 AM UTC-7 Neale S. wrote:
>>
>>> I did the double scoop last year on my Atlantis! Would love to see all 
>>> of you there again next weekend. The vibe is usually impeccable. Also 
>>> there's a special Thursday-night basket ride with the Blue Lug folks, which 
>>> should be a good time. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 9:09:24 AM UTC-7 Brian Cunningham wrote:
>>>
 Armand is not getting me to sign up for the triple scoop. Even the 
 single scoop option sounds brutal enough to me, with 4100 ft elevation 
 gain 
 over 27 miles, but Tony, I'll suffer through it with you if you want to 
 try 
 the single scoop!

 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 8:07:01 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 7:28:41 PM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> This will be a fun weekend put on by the Cub House bicycle/plant shop 
> in Pasadena, CA. 
>
>
> I really wish I was going to be there. Take and post photos!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA 
>


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[RBW] Re: The Cub House's Los Angeles Invitational Ride - May 18

[Dorothy C]

Just realized it’s next weekend, but my reservation about its being too 
long a ride still stands

On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 6:58:59 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:

> It’s too far for me, and I have early Mother’s day plans with my son and 
> his wife, but have fun
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:27:05 PM UTC-7 in...@brentknepper.com wrote:
>
>> Armand, you gotta do it on the platy! now that you've finished building 
>> it up, what a perfect chance to get some paint chips from the triple scoop
>>
>> hope you can share some of the experience on here for us poor souls 
>> unable to get out there for the weekend
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:50:10 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>>> @Brian -- Haha, if by double scoop, you mean to swing by Jones' coffee 
>>> for some Fosselman's ice cream, I'm with you brother!!  (:
>>>
>>> @Neale -- I'll definitely be there on Sunday, and intermittently on 
>>> Saturday (as time permits). Kinda want to buy a Cub House hoodie, so 
>>> this'll be the perfect excuse to stop by. Keep me posted if you do the 
>>> basket ridecurrently trying to schedule childcare so I can attend.  
>>> /tony-crosses-fingers 
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 10:10:59 AM UTC-7 Neale S. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did the double scoop last year on my Atlantis! Would love to see all 
>>>> of you there again next weekend. The vibe is usually impeccable. Also 
>>>> there's a special Thursday-night basket ride with the Blue Lug folks, 
>>>> which 
>>>> should be a good time. 
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 9:09:24 AM UTC-7 Brian Cunningham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Armand is not getting me to sign up for the triple scoop. Even the 
>>>>> single scoop option sounds brutal enough to me, with 4100 ft elevation 
>>>>> gain 
>>>>> over 27 miles, but Tony, I'll suffer through it with you if you want to 
>>>>> try 
>>>>> the single scoop!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 8:07:01 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 7:28:41 PM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will be a fun weekend put on by the Cub House bicycle/plant shop 
>>>>>> in Pasadena, CA. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really wish I was going to be there. Take and post photos!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted Durant
>>>>>> Milwaukee WI USA 
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Dorothy C]

Leah
Just a heads up if you find a used 700c Roadini hoping to swap parts to a 
new frame later, only the 2020 and later take long reach brakes. Before 
that the 47cm / 650b was long reach and the 700c sizes were medium reach. 
You might already know this.

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 11:53:24 AM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:

> Leah- love it! When you buy used, you can pretty much break-even on the 
> subsequent resale. It is just a matter of timing liquidity. And you could 
> possibly transfer parts over to the new frame, if you like the set-up, and 
> sell just the frame. Or decide that lugs aren't crucial. Many possible 
> outcomes. Eager to see how it all plays out. 
>
> Doug - love the grips. I saw that demo too but never tried it. Yours look 
> terrific. Very striking and fun. 
>
> Sarah - glad you enjoyed the pics.😁
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 11:44:07 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Valerie, I’m going to take your formula and apply it. I’m looking for the 
>> used 50 Roadini and if anyone sees one first ,will ya send it my way? And 
>> then maybe this fall I end up with the lugged and sell the TIG’d. I don’t 
>> know! It’s an adventure! I plan to be impulsive! Not money-savvy! A real 
>> handful! 🤩 
>>
>> Join me,
>> Leah
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 6:50:30 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>
>>> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky 
>>> smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos. 
>>> Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best 
>>> life. 
>>>
>>> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you love it 
>>> and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't turn up, 
>>> order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged one is 
>>> pending, then it depends on price and timing. 😁 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a 
 road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was 
 lucky 
 to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the 
 befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires 
 and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a 
 surprise 
 midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride

 anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my 
 bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem 
 confused about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet 
 their expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the 
 Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean 
 while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that 
 I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture 
 promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)

 Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your 
 commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a 
 Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to 
 your hella colorful collection

 -Brent in chicago

 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> This is SO fun. 
>
> Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your 
> answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you 
> were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope 
> we 
> get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the 
> Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated 
> model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for. 
> That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a 
> great 
> choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the 
> used 
> market? So far there have been none to be found…
> L
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Me either!
>>
>> I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure!
>>
>> All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom 
>> currently on offer at a very reasonable price…
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>
>> Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely 
>> irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing 
>> in 
>> that picture says go-fast club rides to me. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting how differently that G

Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?

[Dorothy C]

When I built up the third Riv I bought, a Cheviot, after having bought a 
webspecial Appa and a Riv built Roadini, I ran into the classic mistake of 
not knowing what I didn’t know, and rejoined a section of 9 speed chain 
with the previous pin, instead of using an extra quick link. Shortly after 
the build, I was changing gear to go through an intersection when the chain 
snapped, completely shearing my derailleur in half and twisting part of the 
chain 90 degrees. I wasn’t pedaling very hard. Luckily there was no other 
traffic and I was able to push the bike clear of the street. I bent the 
derailleur hanger and scraped a couple of spokes and the drive side fender 
stay. I do build my own bikes now, but I have a lot more know how than I 
did in 2019 when I got the Cheviot.

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 10:34:52 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:

> +1 on the fender washers and threaded rod. If you're not building bikes 
> every day, this solution works remarkably well.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 6:33:00 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:40 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>>> Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for 
>>> a home mechanic, in my experience. 
>>>
>>
>> Not if you use a hammer. Seriously, this is how I installed my first 
>> ones, but those were cheap steel and I was lucky. No, don't try it. Now I 
>> use a crude press made from thick threaded rod with big fender washers and 
>> nuts; works fine and I do this only every 10 years or so.
>>
>> The next hardest job is ordering the correct parts: bottom bracket 
>>> spindle length and crank and (if you're using one) the front derailer all 
>>> need to play together correctly.
>>>
>>
>> +1. Buy your parts at a good shop who can tell you what size you need. 
>> FDs: Am I right in thinking that fds from the 5 sp era were more fiddly 
>> than modern (I count 7400s as modern) ones? Or am I just more experienced? 
>> I used to sweat over fds.
>>
>> Interesting thread. I started tearing down and building bikes in complete 
>> and blissful ignorance on a dirty concrete garage floor with poor light and 
>> minimal tools -- monkey wrench for headsets and bb fixed cup, nail and 
>> hammer and big nut for chains, largely pliers and vise grip for the rest. 
>> If you have good set of general DIY tools you are already light years ahead.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Now officially a member

[Dorothy C]

Lovely bike. Welcome to the Platy owners fold. 

Roberta - that is the Sergio green from the latest run, like mine. The 
lime-olive from the first run sold out in a hot minute. 

On Wednesday, June 19, 2024 at 9:35:41 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Please update us how you like it after a few rides or a few hundred miles 
> which won't be long.  I'm sure it rides like a dream.  What a beauty!
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 6:59:54 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>>
>> Lovely lime-olive!  Enjoy your ride. And, if you can ride with Leah in a 
>> few weeks you’ll find her happiness infectious. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 5:36:02 PM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>> Still needs some racks and other changes, but here she is.
>>>
>>> Thinking of having some 44 slicks on for when I’m on the road (opinions 
>>> welcome). And possibly swapping the Shimano dyno hub and the light with the 
>>> SON and Edelux I have on my other bike. 
>>>
>>> Will likely never be done with accessorizing. Considering Pass and Stow 
>>> rack instead of the Nitto. And unsure of direction with fenders. 
>>>
>>> Relative to the N+1 crowd, heard. Small garage and a mental focus on 
>>> minimizing the “stuff” I don’t use…I may sell the old bike. It may become 
>>> something else. Will see….
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:17 PM, Mathias Steiner  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Welcome indeed.
>>> You MUST be new here -- where are the pictures??
>>>
>>> Also congratulations on New Bike Day. You added to your quiver, all good.
>>>
>>> But where does this "bike to sell" idea come from..? 
>>> N+1
>>>
>>> cheers -mathias
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 7:18:57 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Welcome T!!
 Happy Rolling
 -Kai

 On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:46:26 AM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:

> Picked up my Platypus today at Mack's Bike and Goods here in Evanston, 
> IL. Rode my old bike there, and left it at the shop (maybe forever?). Put 
> 30 miles on the tires, and almost 2 hours of smiles on my face. 
>
> Team at Riv (James in this instance) were supportive in the shopping 
> phase. 
>
> All good. Now I've an old bike to sell.
>
> T
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Dorothy C]

I don’t know about Riv restocking, as they just had them in February, but 
CL Cycle have a lime-olive or a Forest Green in stock. They are in Canada, 
but ship to the US. Make sure to click the USD button. 

https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html


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> @Ryan,
>
> I'm certain that RBW headquarters has the Clems on their framesets and 
> completes schedule for later this year. For now, it's a waiting game to see 
> when exactly when.
>
> Between now and then, it will give you time to save up more money for your 
> purchase. 
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024, 2:40 PM Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>
>> I had planned on the Clem replacing the 2 bikes I have but it seems my 
>> budget needs to be tighter than expected. My Clem will have to keep waiting 
>> it seems. Thank you all very much for the help!
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:33:15 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Ryan,
>>> as an idea... Call Will Keating tomorrow at RBW headquarters and see if 
>>> they have a 59cm frameset unsold somewhere in their warehouse or even a 
>>> complete or a demo. I bought my 52cm Clem through a serendipity experience 
>>> talking to Will. I was and remain truly grateful to find one in RBW blue. 
>>>
>>> ...or post ISO/WTB: 59cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset on 
>>> Facebook's Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
>>>  webpage. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:21:42 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Ryan,
 You are more than welcome.

 Kim Hetzel. 

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:09:55 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you again, Kim!
>
> Thank you Chris for that picture! Nice looking Clem you have there! I 
> am usually at 79cm on my saddle so that is a big help on where I’d be. 
>
> Unfortunately, I looked and that Weehoo trailer doesn’t make an 
> adapter for the Clem seatpost size. I’m sure I can figure something out. 
> Still hope I can find a frame! There’s a 64 on eBay but $250 for shipping 
> and sales tax doesn’t save much over the ones Riv has in stock!
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:17:46 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Here's a recent photo of my 64cm Clem L, with 78cm seat seat height 
>> adjusted for my 88cm PBH. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1854.jpg]
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:41:10 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> BTW... you are welcome.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike 
 both on and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish 
 I 
 could test ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second 
 bike. 
 However, I cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein 
 the 
 past discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, 
 than 
 the Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance 
 and 
 abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks 
 HOMAGE 
 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 

 Kim Hetzel. 

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> Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like 
> the perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.

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[RBW] Re: Deore V-brake spring adjustment screw size?

[Dorothy C]

I took off a pair of Deore V brakes after unfortunately cracking the 
sleeves surrounding the linear springs trying to add more tension to the 
springs, but the screws are still in good condition. I use a JIS 
screwdriver so they don’t round out. I could send you the screws out of 
them if you pm me your address. I am in Socal. 

On Sunday, August 25, 2024 at 4:42:15 PM UTC-7 smer...@gmail.com wrote:

> I installed a pair of hand-me-down V brakes today and discovered that one 
> tension screw was rounding out and the other did not, in point of fact, 
> exist. 
>
> The internet tells me these screws are cheap and common in Britain, but 
> weirdly expensive in the U.S. Is it just a regular M3 x 8mm that I could 
> pick up at the hardware store? 
>
> smm
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[RBW] Introduction with ulterior motive

[Dorothy C]

Why sell the Sam and not just put a new crank and cassette on it?

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[RBW] Clem L as an ebike frame?

[Dorothy C]

Also check the unit's cable lengths, that they will reach around.

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[RBW] Locking Up your Riv

[Dorothy C]

I use the Bordo as a front wheel lock with an additional thicker lock through 
the back wheel; frame and what I am locking to.
The Bordo locks can also be daisychained together if you need more length. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale

[Dorothy C]

Fictitious school drawn by Ronald Searle, featured in a couple of old British 
movies. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Trinian's_School

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Re: [RBW] Re: Useful use for beeswax

[Dorothy C]

I have recipe for a hand salve / lip balm.  One ounce of grated beeswax, 1 
ounce of jojoba oil and 2 ounces of red palm fruit oil. Warm gently in a double 
boiler until melted and stir together. You can add a few drops of essential oil 
like lavender, or chamomile. Store in a 4 ounce canning jar, or small lotion 
jar. Rub between hands to soften. 
I was able to greatly reduce the inflammation and potential scarring from a 
grease burn on my hand  by using some lavender infused balm for about a week 
after the burn had had time to cool. 

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Clem L 45cm

[Dorothy C]

You would need a wheelset too. The Clem 45 is 26”, not 650b

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[RBW] Re: Platypus is sold out in 50 cm.

[Dorothy C]

I got the 55cm Lime I wanted in the first two minutes of the sale.  A 
couple of things I did - logged in to my account ahead of the sale time, of 
course, but I added the prep for shipment item to my cart earlier that 
morning, and I had the credit card details stored in my browser’s autofill. 
I had the size and color already selected too. 

On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 9:56:11 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This is what is known as a good problem. Those Appaloosas are great (and 
> beautiful) bikes, you're going to love it. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7 Jay LePree wrote:
>
>> I am happy for Riv.  Good they made out.  I tried to purchase one, and it 
>> seemed between 12:00 and 12:01 the mermaids sold out.  I was able to load a 
>> lime green, but when I added the build up up the frame, they were sold out. 
>>
>> Divine intervention telling me to go for the Apaloosa in late April. 
>>
>> Jay
>> Demarest, NJ
>>
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[RBW] Re: Platypus is sold out in 50 cm.

[Dorothy C]

Thanks Roberta
This frame is for my youngest who is 27, he finishes a Master’s this 
summer. I already have an Appaloosa, a grey Roadini that is stored in Wales 
with my sister for when I visit, a Cheviot, a Clem and an orange Roadini 
that I just finished building with Losco bars and a Bitex hub wheelset. My 
oldest kid got a Clem complete from me two years ago. 

On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Dorothy,  That must have been a white knuckle few moments.  I'm so glad 
> you got one.  I got the mermaid, but that lime/olive sure is nice looking, 
> also.
>
> Jay, I'm happy to have helped getting a Riv into another person's hands 
> (under another person's bum)!  
>
> I've bought my first Riv from James when he was located in MD as Gravel 
> and Grind, and I had just heard of the Rivendell brand.  For all my bike 
> naivete, they have been patient answering my questions and never steered me 
> wrong, helping me with a "lightening up" bike project last year, and 
> recommending a build for my 55 Mermaid Platy. 
>
> Roberta
>
> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 9:13:49 AM UTC-4 Jay LePree wrote:
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Thanks to Roberta Chase who referred me to Analogue cycles.  I was able 
>> to procure a 50 cm Olive green and they will do the build for me. They seem 
>> really great to work with.  
>> Jay
>> Demarest, NJ
>>
>> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 2:50:41 PM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> I got the 55cm Lime I wanted in the first two minutes of the sale.  A 
>>> couple of things I did - logged in to my account ahead of the sale time, of 
>>> course, but I added the prep for shipment item to my cart earlier that 
>>> morning, and I had the credit card details stored in my browser’s autofill. 
>>> I had the size and color already selected too. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 9:56:11 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is what is known as a good problem. Those Appaloosas are great 
>>>> (and beautiful) bikes, you're going to love it. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7 Jay LePree wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am happy for Riv.  Good they made out.  I tried to purchase one, and 
>>>>> it seemed between 12:00 and 12:01 the mermaids sold out.  I was able to 
>>>>> load a lime green, but when I added the build up up the frame, they were 
>>>>> sold out. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Divine intervention telling me to go for the Apaloosa in late April. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> Demarest, NJ
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Trade - Velocity Dyad Dynamo Wheelset for Velocity Atlas Dynamo Wheelset

[Dorothy C]

What size rims - 650b or 700c?

On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 10:56:01 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:

> I forgot to add, tires and cassette not included in the trade. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Trade - Velocity Dyad Dynamo Wheelset for Velocity Atlas Dynamo Wheelset

[Dorothy C]

No, sorry, my set are 650b

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 1:01:40 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:

> Hi! They are 700c. I forgot to add that. Do you have a possible trade?
>
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:09 PM Dorothy C  wrote:
>
>> What size rims - 650b or 700c?
>>
>> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 10:56:01 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:
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>>> I forgot to add, tires and cassette not included in the trade. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: The Bike Snob is getting a Rivendell!

[Dorothy C]

Has he been dropping hints that he got a Platypus frame?

https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/04/05/preen-ium-rush/#more-5122

On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 2:50:14 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> It’s a Hilsen! Arrived today!

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Bike Snob is getting a Rivendell!

[Dorothy C]

Leah, I think my son's frame shipping will be at least a couple of weeks 
away still. Luckily I am in SoCal and I have all the parts gathered 
together so it won't take too long to build it up for him.
Will's email said they sold a total of 50 frames in the 50cm and 55cm sizes 
in the first five minutes of the sale going live.

On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 12:25:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Dorothy, I absolutely think you are right. Eben has been really enamored 
> with his family’s 2 Rivendells so far, and it would not surprise me if he 
> was getting a Platy, and please oh PLEASE, if Roberta doesn’t do a 
> peacock-themed build can someone do it? I had Dorothy’s same thoughts when 
> I read that blog post. Very, very exciting.
>
> Roberta - guess what - we will BOTH have Bike Snob bikes because he (his 
> wife, really) has a Clem and a Platy!
>
> Dorothy, have you heard any news of the ETA of your son’s Platypus?
>
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 10, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>
> Has he been dropping hints that he got a Platypus frame?
>
>
> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2021/04/05/preen-ium-rush/#more-5122
>
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> wrote:
>
>> It’s a Hilsen! Arrived today!
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[RBW] Re: WTB: silver thumb shifter mounts

[Dorothy C]

I was in the same boat.  Velo Orange’s thumb shifter mounts work with 
Silver 2’s, though the exit angle isn’t as adjustable. I got a pair for my 
son’s Platy build with Choco bars. 

On Tuesday, April 20, 2021 at 3:29:28 PM UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> A mermaid Platypus will be coming my way at some point and I've been 
> diligently collecting parts.  I ordered Silver thumb shifters from RBW, but 
> the mounts are sold out.  I need both sides, right and left, for my Bosco 
> bars.  If you have a pair collecting dust and need to move them along, 
> please contact me!  (The Microshift thumbies are also sold out or I'd buy 
> them while I wait for RBW's stock of silver mounts to refill.)
>
> --Joyce
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Dorothy C]

Phillip, my 55cm Cheviot is also 16” and fits the No 2 Zefal pump that Riv 
sell. Make sure to turn the pump head from HP to X before trying to 
compress it into position

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 8:46:38 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Well that takes the Topeak Master Blaster off the table then!
>
> Thanks for checking.
>
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> 16" on the nose from tip to edge of HT
>>
>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 5:55:59 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Would someone mind running a tape measure for the pump mounting boss to 
>>> head tube?
>>>
>>> Also, what are people's thoughts on fenders for their Plats?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:55:18 PM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Leah. I have definitely narrowed it down to a Sam or an 
 Appaloosa for myself, in that order. A Sam in Mermaid would probably be my 
 ultimate Riv. Nothing against the mixte, I'm just kind of a double diamond 
 purist.

 On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 9:11:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I'm greatly enjoying reading your impressions and seeing the details 
> in the photos. Will and Maia summed it up well - I've thought all those 
> same thoughts about my own Platypus. I also really think this is the most 
> sparkle Riv has ever put in a paint job and we are all loving it. 
> Sparklepus or SparklePlaty. That's the new hashtag!
>
> Anyway, Will, I think you should snag a 60 mermaid Platy for yourself. 
> Why not? This IS the best bike in the Riv line, you know...
>
> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-7 will...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Maia's Mermaid 55CM Details Part1
>>
>> [image: IMG_0443.png][image: IMG_0444.png]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Dorothy C]

Joel, I have the 2018 Cheviot - it fits 50mm Conti baseball tires without 
fenders, I currently have 42mm Panaracer Paselas with SKS fenders on it. 
Tektro R559 sidepull brakes with Koolstop ebike brake pads. 
On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks - I have one of those too! Then there's this rather expensive but 
> lovely thing;
>
> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=94457
>
> Which gets horrible reviews;
>
>
> https://off.road.cc/content/review/pumps-and-co2-inflators/fabric-megabar-dual-valve-mini-pump-review-6599
>
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> Phillip, my 55cm Cheviot is also 16” and fits the No 2 Zefal pump that 
>> Riv sell. Make sure to turn the pump head from HP to X before trying to 
>> compress it into position
>>
>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 8:46:38 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well that takes the Topeak Master Blaster off the table then!
>>>
>>> Thanks for checking.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> 16" on the nose from tip to edge of HT
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 5:55:59 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would someone mind running a tape measure for the pump mounting boss 
>>>>> to head tube?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, what are people's thoughts on fenders for their Plats?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:55:18 PM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Leah. I have definitely narrowed it down to a Sam or an 
>>>>>> Appaloosa for myself, in that order. A Sam in Mermaid would probably be 
>>>>>> my 
>>>>>> ultimate Riv. Nothing against the mixte, I'm just kind of a double 
>>>>>> diamond 
>>>>>> purist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 9:11:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm greatly enjoying reading your impressions and seeing the details 
>>>>>>> in the photos. Will and Maia summed it up well - I've thought all those 
>>>>>>> same thoughts about my own Platypus. I also really think this is the 
>>>>>>> most 
>>>>>>> sparkle Riv has ever put in a paint job and we are all loving it. 
>>>>>>> Sparklepus or SparklePlaty. That's the new hashtag!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, Will, I think you should snag a 60 mermaid Platy for 
>>>>>>> yourself. Why not? This IS the best bike in the Riv line, you know...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-7 will...@yahoo.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maia's Mermaid 55CM Details Part1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0443.png][image: IMG_0444.png]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Dorothy C]

Joel, I forgot to say - Atlas 650b rims

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:26:43 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:

>
> Joel, I have the 2018 Cheviot - it fits 50mm Conti baseball tires without 
> fenders, I currently have 42mm Panaracer Paselas with SKS fenders on it. 
> Tektro R559 sidepull brakes with Koolstop ebike brake pads. 
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks - I have one of those too! Then there's this rather expensive but 
>> lovely thing;
>>
>> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=94457
>>
>> Which gets horrible reviews;
>>
>>
>> https://off.road.cc/content/review/pumps-and-co2-inflators/fabric-megabar-dual-valve-mini-pump-review-6599
>>
>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> Phillip, my 55cm Cheviot is also 16” and fits the No 2 Zefal pump that 
>>> Riv sell. Make sure to turn the pump head from HP to X before trying to 
>>> compress it into position
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 8:46:38 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well that takes the Topeak Master Blaster off the table then!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for checking.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 16" on the nose from tip to edge of HT
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 5:55:59 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Would someone mind running a tape measure for the pump mounting boss 
>>>>>> to head tube?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, what are people's thoughts on fenders for their Plats?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:55:18 PM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Leah. I have definitely narrowed it down to a Sam or an 
>>>>>>> Appaloosa for myself, in that order. A Sam in Mermaid would probably be 
>>>>>>> my 
>>>>>>> ultimate Riv. Nothing against the mixte, I'm just kind of a double 
>>>>>>> diamond 
>>>>>>> purist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 9:11:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm greatly enjoying reading your impressions and seeing the 
>>>>>>>> details in the photos. Will and Maia summed it up well - I've thought 
>>>>>>>> all 
>>>>>>>> those same thoughts about my own Platypus. I also really think this is 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> most sparkle Riv has ever put in a paint job and we are all loving it. 
>>>>>>>> Sparklepus or SparklePlaty. That's the new hashtag!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, Will, I think you should snag a 60 mermaid Platy for 
>>>>>>>> yourself. Why not? This IS the best bike in the Riv line, you know...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-7 will...@yahoo.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maia's Mermaid 55CM Details Part1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0443.png][image: IMG_0444.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Dorothy C]

You won’t believe this - I was riding my Cheviot in Simi Valley tonight, 
about to rejoin the bike path after a quick hill detour, when someone 
called out “Is that a Rivendell?” Turns out I ran into Maia on her new 
Platy, and Will! We had a good chat about components and how wonderful the 
bikes are.  What are the odds?
I of course told them I am waiting  on delivery of my son’s Platy 55 lime

On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 1:27:06 PM UTC-7 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Emily. 
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 3:42 PM Emily Guise  wrote:
>
>> My 60 cm has 48mm Soma Shikoro tires on it, with wide SKS fenders ( I 
>> think the 62s?) No problems with braking or brake clearance. 
>>
>> -Emily
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>>
>> Joel, I forgot to say - Atlas 650b rims
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:26:43 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Joel, I have the 2018 Cheviot - it fits 50mm Conti baseball tires 
>>> without fenders, I currently have 42mm Panaracer Paselas with SKS fenders 
>>> on it. Tektro R559 sidepull brakes with Koolstop ebike brake pads. 
>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 11:15:00 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks - I have one of those too! Then there's this rather expensive 
>>>> but lovely thing;
>>>>
>>>> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=94457
>>>>
>>>> Which gets horrible reviews;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://off.road.cc/content/review/pumps-and-co2-inflators/fabric-megabar-dual-valve-mini-pump-review-6599
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 12:31:12 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Phillip, my 55cm Cheviot is also 16” and fits the No 2 Zefal pump that 
>>>>> Riv sell. Make sure to turn the pump head from HP to X before trying to 
>>>>> compress it into position
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 8:46:38 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well that takes the Topeak Master Blaster off the table then!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for checking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 16" on the nose from tip to edge of HT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 5:55:59 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would someone mind running a tape measure for the pump mounting 
>>>>>>>> boss to head tube?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, what are people's thoughts on fenders for their Plats?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 11:55:18 PM UTC-5 will...@yahoo.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Leah. I have definitely narrowed it down to a Sam or an 
>>>>>>>>> Appaloosa for myself, in that order. A Sam in Mermaid would probably 
>>>>>>>>> be my 
>>>>>>>>> ultimate Riv. Nothing against the mixte, I'm just kind of a double 
>>>>>>>>> diamond 
>>>>>>>>> purist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 9:11:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm greatly enjoying reading your impressions and seeing the 
>>>>>>>>>> details in the photos. Will and Maia summed it up well - I've 
>>>>>>>>>> thought all 
>>>>>>>>>> those same thoughts about my own Platypus. I also really think this 
>>>>>>>>>> is the 
>>>>>>>>>> most sparkle Riv has ever put in a paint job and we are all loving 
>>>>>>>>>> it. 
>>>>>>>>>> Sparklepus or SparklePlaty. That's the new hashtag!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Will, I think you should snag a 60 mermaid Platy for 
>>>>>>>>>> yourself. Why not? This IS the

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Dorothy C]

David that’s a great idea
Will and Maia lovely to  meet you too. I got my first Rivendell in May 
2017, a 47cm Appaloosa and yours is only the second Rivendell I have seen 
in person in the LA area.  The other was a Sam ridden by a woman at a 
Glendale CicLAVia event. 
Yes, I have the RBW blue. I would guess there have been fewer than 10 
Platys built at this point so it was amazing to see yours. 

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:18:10 PM UTC-7 Nathan F wrote:

> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! 
>
> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the frame on 
> ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those sooner! I'll do 
> a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, I'm excited to see 
> what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the bike, though I can 
> confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to blame 
>> for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>>
>> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it could 
>> sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s hope 
>> another batch is in the works. 
>>
>> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were 
>> making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost! 
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed at 
>> 12:05.  And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a direct 
>> result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!  
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  wrote:
>>
>>> Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
>>>
>>> I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if their 
>>> server might melt down today and he said something to the effect of: ‘Yeah, 
>>> probably.’
>>>
>>> 8^}
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the enthusiasm 
>>> for this bike?  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
 selling this quickly?

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment 

 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID 
> but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I clicked 
> as fast as I could on the dot!
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:
>
>> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
>> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if 
>> you'd like to trade! :) 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do 
>>> a 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>>>
>>> You might be in luck.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
 oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I 
 missed out... 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
> $1650. 
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April 
>> Fool's joke? Wishful thinking?
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the 
>>> reasoning in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg 
>>> has 
>>> said since 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than 
>>> other 
>>> models, hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii 
>>> cost an 
>>> extra $100 to make. 
>>>
>>> From Platy Page:
>>>
>>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it 
>>> costs us about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first 
>>> run, we 
>>> include a wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in 
>>> Australia b

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

[Dorothy C]

Ben, Analog built the wheels and did the anodizing, Leah got the frame from 
Riv and had the rest of the build done locally, from what I recall

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 2:47:12 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote:

> Hm, I seem to recall the movies being really dark, too dark to see which 
> side its connected on.
>
> But didn't Analog wire it up? With the connector wire being on oneside vs 
> the other (drive vs nondrive?)
>
> Ben
>
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 2:24:34 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Don’t take this from me, Collin! 🤣
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>>
>> That shouldn't matter for the Son Dynamos. Per their FAQ page:
>> https://nabendynamo.de/en/service/faqs/
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> But hey, it might solve it?
>>
>> Collin in Sacramento
>> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 2:14:12 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting catch by Analog, after reviewing the photo: the wheel is 
>>> backwards. The connector for the hub should be on the right side. The drive 
>>> side. I can’t believe none of us noticed! I’ll call the shop and tell them 
>>> to flip it. That’s a start.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> SON 28!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2021, at 12:20 PM, brian tester  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Is the hub a SON Delux or a SON28? I ask because the Delux was 
>>> technically developed for 20" wheel bikes, with higher rotation rates. 
>>> While it works fine built into a larger diameter wheel (and will introduce 
>>> less pedalling resitance and will weigh slightly less than the SON28,) it 
>>> will produce less wattage as the the wheel diameter grows. So a 700c wheel 
>>> with a fattish tire will make fewer rotations per foot than an ideal 20" 
>>> wheel, therefore producing less watts. Add a tail light to the equation and 
>>> the hub will be hard-pressed to bring the headlight to full brightness. 
>>>
>>> The SON28, on the other hand, is recommended for larger diameter wheels 
>>> and situations involving additional lighting, i.e. a tail light, and device 
>>> charging via USB. Probably not exactly what you want to hear, if you do 
>>> have the SON Delux, but it could go a long way toward explaining your 
>>> frustrating lack of light.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: It's a Tosco, on a Face Plater

[Dorothy C]

Joe, I didn’t hear my torque wrench click and ended up snapping a bolt in 
two on the first Faceplater I bought. Luckily there was enough thread 
poking through to the back that I was able to advance it all the way 
through with needlenose pliers. I am more cautious tightening them down 
now. 
On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 11:15:50 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Hi Laing,
>
> What you see in the pics - including how high I have the bars/stem - is 
> the result of basal joint (base of thumb) arthritis. It's most prominent in 
> my right hand (I'm right-handed) and hurts like the dickens if I shift a 
> lot, so I swapped them around and shift the rear derailer with my "good" 
> left hand. I have them mounted semi-horizontally to avoid thumbshifting, I 
> basically use my whole hand to make the shift. So it's very specific and 
> looks unusual, but it works! 
>
> Joe "ow ow ow ow" Bernard
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 6:35:25 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>
>> I note that you have your thumb shifters in an interesting location - to 
>> the "inside" of the bar (Riv style), but shiting in the more or less 
>> traditional horizontal plane instead of the Riv style vertical plane. So 
>> sort of rotating in the opposite direction from traditional. How do you 
>> like them in that position"
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 12:15:17 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ok let's try this again with proper pics, sorry if the earlier version 
>>> is still in your emails (I don't know how that works).
>>>
>>> This is my nifty new 60cm Tosco on my nifty new 135mm Nitto Face Plater. 
>>> The bar is a bit cut down from Bosco and - this is the part I care about - 
>>> has a little more flare at the grips. As the Riv ad copy says it's not 
>>> quite the looker of Nitto (and it's heavier than my cromo 55 Bosco) but 
>>> it's only 60 bucks! I like the hand positions and the slightly less HEY I'M 
>>> A CONSPICUOUSLY TALL BAR look. Check it out. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Being Precious About Your Favorite Bike

[Dorothy C]

Leah, I find personally, as a 61 year old woman, that if I lift my Cheviot 
with the stem in my right hand, then reach over the bike and grasp the 
middle seat stay in my left hand, at about fender level, the center of 
gravity seems more balanced front to rear, and I can lift it more easily. I 
have pretty long arms for my height, so the saddle doesn’t get in the way. 

On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 5:02:00 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Gotta keep working on that. I might be able to get that Clem up higher 
> now. Will report back. 🤣
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 16, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>
> 
>
> You could save the weights and just lift one of your Clems above your head 
> :)
>
> Eric
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 4:37 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
>> I did NOT think this long bike would fit, but it does. I just slammed the 
>> bars and angled the bike. Inched the bucket seat forward a hair. I will 
>> wrap some pool noodles around the frame, tuck the suitcases around it, and 
>> boom, done. I’m packing light this year, just bringing some dumbbells 
>> besides the suitcases so I can keep up my weightlifting routine. The 3 
>> Clems on the rack will still be at risk, but those I can replace. There’s 
>> only one raspberry Platypus, and I doubt windows will be smashed in when 
>> the 3 bait bikes are in view. But still hoping to arrive to and from with 
>> all 4 Rivendells! 
>>
>> I really appreciate every point of view offered here. You were all 
>> valuable to me. I love this community.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> That works! Ok forget the part where I changed my mind and said leave 
>> the Platy home cuz I was right the first time. I think the lesson we all 
>> can learn here is...don't listen to me! 🤪
>>
>> Joe know-nothing Bernard 
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 8:29:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, here’s the compromise. If this bike is inside the locked van, good 
>>> enough for me! Can you believe this long bike fit?! Everyone, quick, go buy 
>>> a Honda Odyssey!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 7:17 AM, Melanie  wrote:
>>>
>>> If anything untoward happens on vacation, wouldn't you rather it happen 
>>> to the Clem? Let the Clem be your beausage bike and let the Platy be your 
>>> precious.
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a relaxed vacation!
>>>
>>> Melanie (who is about to go on vacation, sadly sans any Riv at all)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 2:08:31 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Every summer I leave for five weeks or so. I drive across the country 
 to our home states and spend that time with our families. Our kids get out 
 of the desert and get to have lake life and grandma time and run wild. I 
 have a Saris Freedom 4 bike rack, and I can/might take my Clem, my 
 Platypus 
 and the boys’ Clems. We get a lot of riding done up North, and with temps 
 110 in Vegas in the summer, I relish that riding time. Hassle though it 
 is, 
 I’ll bring our Rivendells. Four of them. 🙄

 But which ones? 

 I can remember last year as we journeyed out of Yellowstone, we thought 
 it would be great to take the Beartooth Highway out of the park. One 
 moment 
 we were enjoying views from the top of the world and the next, we were in 
 a 
 June snowstorm that barely allowed visibility 20 feet in front of us. I 
 worried for my dyno hub, and also that we’d be rear-ended. When we got to 
 Billings, those poor bikes suffered through the most torrential downpour I 
 can ever remember driving through. My son’s Brooks B17 Select still bears 
 the scars (yes, it had a Randi Jo saddle cover). And then there’s the 
 theft 
 risk (we u lock them to the rack overnight on our drive), and maybe it’s 
 higher in the Bicycle Shortage of 2020 and 2021. Oh, and the risk of being 
 knocked over by exuberant little nieces and nephews as we jam our bikes 
 into family garages…

 The struggle is this. I don’t want to leave my most favorite bike ever 
 behind for 5 weeks. The Clem is just not the same, and though I plan to 
 bring it, I would really, REALLY miss my Platy if I ONLY took the Clem. 
 But 
 if tragedy should befall me, the raspberry Platy can’t exactly be 
 replaced. 
 There’s only one. 

 Should I just take my chances because high risk, high reward? Suck 
 every last drop of joy out of it and stop worrying, because after all, it 
 is a bike, and it’s meant to be ridden? Or should I protect it, keep it 
 safe like Gollum and his Precious? Just ride the Clem and pine for the 
 Platy? I have hand-wrung about this for weeks. I decide, IT WILL BE FINE 
 JUST BRING IT and then back to JUST THINK OF HOW YOU WILL REGRET IT IF 
 YOUR 
 PLATY GETS HURT OR STOLEN. We leave Friday an

Re: [RBW] Re: a worthy Bombadil is back on the road at long last...

[Dorothy C]

Matthew, Riv have done two versions of their Bullmoose bar - a TIG welded 
(which I have) and the fillet brazed which definitely shows the beautiful 
brass tone round the joints. Is it possible you have the TIG version?

On Tuesday, June 29, 2021 at 2:42:23 PM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:

> Awesome bike. I like salmon-y paint. I'm in the "I like Bombadils and 
> Hunqs and any other Riv that fits 2" wide tires but I've only ridden an 
> Atlantis" club.
> I'm almost done with my Toyo Atlantis. One of my most desired bikes. Lucky 
> to score it from Karl on this list.
> Thank you for the details on the fender work. Impressive, and a reference. 
> I fear tackling such a job, as it seems like one shot and I doubt I'd hit 
> the nail on the head.
> I have a Riv bullmoose bar. It doesn't show the fillet brazing. I wish it 
> did. But its under there. I assume there is no logical way to remove a 
> layer or something to let it show.
> Thanks for sharing.
> -Matthew
> San Diego, CA
>
> On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 7:19:50 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> 51cm gray/kidney bean Hunq for me, which makes *no *sense because my 
>> custom has a brighter version of that paintjob and does every single thing 
>> a Hunqapillar would do. I want one anyway! 🤣
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 6:10:15 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Willet - oh wow, glad I could be of help! Other than misleading you into 
>>> thinking the 65's would fit, now you're a cautionary tale for me if I ever 
>>> need to replace my fenders haha.. 
>>>
>>> Chris - Ha, I feel that way about the 53cm 650B Hunq.. I guess the grass 
>>> is always greener!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:03 PM 'WilletM' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>

 Those fenders actually made it into the final build based on a 
 suggestion that you (Jason) gave me many months ago as I was contemplating 
 which direction to go with the frameset.  I eventually decided to go "all 
 silver" or as close to it as I could possibly get, and the Flat 65's from 
 Simworks were a good match for the 29x2.1 tires that I was planning on 
 using.  They ended up being perfect for the tires, and they didn't take up 
 much room vertically either.  But both front and back fenders were too 
 wide 
 for the fork blades and seat stays, so I did have to notch them pretty 
 significantly and then try to keep the notches aligned as I mounted 
 hardware to the fenders and then the fenders to the frame.  Somewhat 
 shockingly, the notches fit so closely and line up so perfectly that it's 
 hard to tell they've been modified without shining a flashlight on it.  

 At $167 shipped for the fenders, I was HIGHLY motivated to get it right 
 the first time!

 Thanks again for your helpful suggestions over the winter.  I still 
 have the Proto-Bombadil built up and it fits my short-legs-long-torso 
 dimensions better than this one does (mostly due to a different bar/stem 
 choice).  So this one is for Show and the Protovelo is for Go.  I couldn't 
 be happier or more proud of both, as they were bucket list items for a 
 number of years before I somehow lucked into getting both of them as 
 framesets within less than a year of each other.

 Willet M.

 On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 11:42:31 AM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Wow, that thing is gorgeous.  Nice build!!  I love the unique color. 
> Looks salmon to me. Still undecided whether I'll invest in a paintjob for 
> mine!  And yeah I wouldn't have even considered the threadless bullmoose 
> despite being well aware of the existence of said adapter, and it looks 
> as 
> clean as a quill version would have.  
>
> On Sunday, 27 June 2021 at 20:05:37 UTC-7 WilletM wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm happy to report that the 
>> non-creamsicle-but-still-pretty-dang-orange-y Bombadil frame that I 
>> bought 
>> here last September from Jamison B. is all built up and ready to do a 
>> little Bombadilling (thanks for that, Jason!) in the Rocky Mountains of 
>> western Colorado.  Though it's destined to be more of a show pony than a 
>> workhorse like Jason's rig, I did do a fairly premium build on this one 
>> that I'm sure would hold up for rigorous off-roading or even moderate 
>> bikepacking if only my legs were a little longer.  
>>
>> Particularly noteworthy on this build are the lovely 
>> fillet-and-nickel Nitto bullmoose bars, which turned out a lot better 
>> than 
>> I was expecting given that I used a quill-to-threadless adapter to mate 
>> the 
>> 1" threaded steerer to the 1 1/8" threadless bar/stem combo.  I also 
>> ended 
>> up pretty thrilled with the wheelset, which Peter White built up with 
>> custom Velocity Cliffhangers (silver anodized with machined sidewalls) 
>> laced up to a polished Phil Wood

[RBW] Re: Help me optimize my ride

[Dorothy C]

Same here Joe - I have scraped the inside of my knee on the edge of it a 
couple of times, when it hasn’t had the handgrip and bag in place. Might be 
more of an issue when you set your bike up with a lot of seatpost showing 
as I do on my 26in wheel Appaloosa 

On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 5:04:29 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Btw this is super handy but check how you get on your bike before buying. 
> I still swing my increasingly creaky old leg over the saddle and I kicked 
> that thing *every time 🤦*
>
> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 4:48:45 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Check the next photo on the Riv page. Those doohickeys can be spaced 
>> either inside or outside of the straps so the saddlebag doesn't slide 
>> around on that bar. You grab it in the middle there to carry the bag after 
>> you pop the QR open. 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 4:34:04 PM UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Nitto Saddlebar Grip P50, and it seems to work very well, but I 
>>> see there is an adjustment I have not tweaked. What is the optimal value of 
>>> x in the pic below? I fear I am losing out on a more supple ride, and or 
>>> higher cruising speed. Seriously though, at what distance or range of 
>>> distances apart should these two pieces be? Alternatively, what do they do?
>>>
>>> Presently they are slightly further apart than depicted.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-saddlebag-grip-quick-release-r50-20109?variant=23336752257
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> EricF
>>> Vancouver BC
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Analog's Secret Summer Sale

[Dorothy C]

Joe, how do those Garbaruk pieces work? Do you just install them on a 
Shimano rear derailleur body?

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 9:41:52 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I hit em up for a Garbaruk cage and pulleys, and some chainring bolts.  
> That's bling, baby 😎
>
> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 12:18:33 PM UTC-7 James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>
>> If you are into stuff from Honjo, Unior, Park, Wera, Velo Orange, Riv, 
>> Surly, All City, Bassi, Brooks, Topo Designs, Velocity, etc, this 
>>  is the list of sale 
>> parts for you.
>>
>> Details in the link.
>>
>> -James / Analog Cycles
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

[Dorothy C]

Cat, which wheel size Roadini do you have?  I am running 650b 32mm Grand 
Bois Cypres with Velo Orange fenders. I just changed the rear brake to a 
Paul Racer, from Tektro R559, and I will be replacing the front brake with 
a Paul Racer also, when some spare parts arrive. I would like to be able to 
use 38’s even if I have to take the fenders off, as 650b / 32s are such a 
hard size to find. I got the current tires from Blue Lug in Japan. 

Dorothy in Los Angeles 

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:52:07 PM UTC-8 Catherina Gioino wrote:

> I love the Roadini's size and it doesn't at all feel sluggish to ride. For 
> context, I've only ever ridden steel-frame cheap Craigslist road bike finds 
> like Panasonic and more, or my Surly Crosscheck, so if anything, the 
> Roadini feels like a breeze. 
>
> I can absolutely vouch for that need for speed though-- my boyfriend is 
> constantly whirring past on his Clem but when we took a ride recently, he 
> was struggling to catch up. And for the tire clearance question-- I 
> switched my Vittoria 28mm Corsa tires to 38mm Rene Herse and they ride like 
> a charm
>
> Cat in Queens
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-31 at 4.00.06 PM.png]
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I love my Roadini (size 57, I'm 87 PBH) with wavie bars; it is one of my 
>> favorite bikes. I had tried to write a list of reasons but really it's just 
>> this one:
>>  
>> - it is a blast to ride 
>>
>> I'm sorry I can't answer the "sluggish and heavy" question, it feels 
>> pretty fun to me. My experience is surely different from a lighter and 
>> racier rider though. IMHO this comment from Bill Lindsay is very wise: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/_I9Rs_7FmfE/m/eu1birv2BQAJ 
>> (Hope it's OK to re-link Bill)
>>
>> Sounds like you just need to find someone nearby with road-ish (Homer, 
>> Sam, Road*, etc) Riv and try it out. Only way to know for sure. It's a 
>> frustrating place to be (remembering back before I had a chance to ride any 
>> Riv) but fixable probably before the next Roadini shipment. They do still 
>> have Homers in stock. Definitely call and talk to Riv and see what they say 
>> too.
>>
>> mike in atx
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[Dorothy C]

I am working from home at the moment but will soon be going back to the 
office. Unfortunately we had to move from the house we were renting which 
was 1 1/4 miles from my office, where I could bike every day, to the other 
side of the Santa Susana pass, in late 2020. My office is in Chatsworth CA, 
but we now live in Simi Valley. 
The only bike route through is the Santa Susana pass and SR-27 - Topanga 
Canyon Blvd, which I am too nervous to ride. It is also very hilly in the 
middle. 
I plan to ride to the Metrolink train and take my bike one stop, then ride 
from there. I love bike commuting, such a great way to start and end the 
day. 

On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Kudos. It's always nice to have your bike comfortably parked by your desk. 
> And it's hard to beat Ortliebs for price/performance/durability, even looks.
>
> Patrick Moore, who works at home, but can sneak out for mid-afternoon 
> rides in the bosque, as today.
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 4:59 PM Roberta  wrote:
>
>> I'm finally set up and have been riding the entire week on my Platypus. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Dorothy C]

Johnny, the Platy/Cheviot sizing is a bit different in the middle size. The 
55 Cheviot is 650b wheel size, but the 55 Platy is 700c. 
I have a 55 Cheviot and I am 81cm pbh, but I would have been better off on 
the 50cm Platy had I decided to switch bikes. 
Will mentioned the size difference somewhere

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 12:40:03 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I think I’d need a 55 but I don’t see a listing for that bike anywhere. 
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> I talked to them so more about it but it just doesn't make sense for me 
> financially right now. Parting it or selling the parts that I had set aside 
> for this build would end up with me paying more for the frame then I would 
> for a new one. But for someone needing a complete its a fair deal.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:02:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Is the Platy is Cambridge a 50 or 55?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:09:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I got a hot tip from Leah on a Platy in Cambridge however it is being 
>>> sold as a complete and the price is fair but since I have so many parts its 
>>> a pain to pay the higher price and try and offload a bunch of parts to 
>>> compensate. If anyone is interested shoot me a message and I will give you 
>>> the info. Or if someone wants to buy a bike load of nice Riv pats/wheels 
>>> etc let me know and maybe we can partner up.  Otherwise I am still on the 
>>> hunt. :)
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds like 
 they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait if need 
 be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a frame 
 as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more 
 complete 
 if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot (they came in 
 the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V brakes so I 
 think those are the only step throughs that use them.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Anybody get a Riv cycling cape?

[Dorothy C]

I got the feeling it was an April fools joke. Seinfeld pic?

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been eager to upgrade my synthetic cycling cape, bummed to miss out 
> on this batch. Anyone nab one? 
>
>
> [image: IMG_9473.JPG]
> [image: IMG_9490.JPG]
>
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[RBW] Re: It might be even nicer on a Rivendell: 1975 news feature film on bicycle postman in rural Ireland

[Dorothy C]

He was riding a bike with rod brakes too!

As a Brit, this is what I could make out of the interview sections

Interviewer: how many miles?

Postman: Near about 27 I suppose. Hilly, yeah

I: Every day for 6 days a week?

P: Yeah

I: For the past 42 years?

P: Yeah

I: I saw 2 postmen this morning, one in a car, one on a motorbike. Is that 
the future now, are lads like you finished?

P: I suppose we are finished, getting I am finished anyway

I: You don’t think think that many more fellers will be riding bicycles?

P: I would say not, I’d say not

I: Is it very difficult? Is it very tough work?

P: Well it is. Sure you will notice when you can drive up [unintelligible] 
another big difference

I: Why don’t you start driving a car or motorbike?

P: [unintelligible]

I: Too late?

P: Too late

I: Do you know how to drive a car or motorbike?

P: No

—

P: When you get to our age, you know, weather (?) and weight makes a big 
difference

I: It is a beautiful day today, what is it like when the weather closes in 
here?

P: Oh it is bad

I: What is the worst part of it? The wind?

P: The wind and the rain. [unintelligible] you are not able to stop

I: Were you ever not able to deliver the mail?

P: No, I delivered all the time, that many years

I: Rain or snow?

P: Rain or snow


On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:20:22 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

> When I first started as a bicycle postie I had a single speed and the 
> hilliest run in the office. Fittest year of my life. Really great job 
> though.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: It might be even nicer on a Rivendell: 1975 news feature film on bicycle postman in rural Ireland

[Dorothy C]

I am in SoCal now - Simi Valley. Most of my family members still live in 
North Wales, where I grew up, and I have a grey 47cm Roadini on long term 
loan with my sister there, for when I visit. I have 4 more Rivendells here, 
too, orange Roadini, bronze Clem, sky blue Appaloosa and an RBW blue Cheviot

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 1:02:46 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Dorothy: Thanks for the translation! 
>
> Where in GB do you live? Photo of bike (Rivendell?) in 
> English/Scottish/Welsh/No Irish countryside?
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 1:15 PM Dorothy C  wrote:
>
>> He was riding a bike with rod brakes too!
>>
>> As a Brit, this is what I could make out of the interview sections
>>
>> Interviewer: how many miles?
>>
>> Postman: Near about 27 I suppose. Hilly, yeah
>>
>> I: Every day for 6 days a week?
>>
>> P: Yeah
>>
>> I: For the past 42 years?
>>
>> P: Yeah
>>
>> I: I saw 2 postmen this morning, one in a car, one on a motorbike. Is 
>> that the future now, are lads like you finished?
>>
>> P: I suppose we are finished, getting I am finished anyway
>>
>> I: You don’t think think that many more fellers will be riding bicycles?
>>
>> P: I would say not, I’d say not
>>
>> I: Is it very difficult? Is it very tough work?
>>
>> P: Well it is. Sure you will notice when you can drive up 
>> [unintelligible] another big difference
>>
>> I: Why don’t you start driving a car or motorbike?
>>
>> P: [unintelligible]
>>
>> I: Too late?
>>
>> P: Too late
>>
>> I: Do you know how to drive a car or motorbike?
>>
>> P: No
>>
>> —
>>
>> P: When you get to our age, you know, weather (?) and weight makes a big 
>> difference
>>
>> I: It is a beautiful day today, what is it like when the weather closes 
>> in here?
>>
>> P: Oh it is bad
>>
>> I: What is the worst part of it? The wind?
>>
>> P: The wind and the rain. [unintelligible] you are not able to stop
>>
>> I: Were you ever not able to deliver the mail?
>>
>> P: No, I delivered all the time, that many years
>>
>> I: Rain or snow?
>>
>> P: Rain or snow
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:20:22 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> When I first started as a bicycle postie I had a single speed and the 
>>> hilliest run in the office. Fittest year of my life. Really great job 
>>> though.
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Nitto Big Back Rack - LARGE

[Dorothy C]

Blue Lug have it in stock. Seems like a stretch to order from Japan but 
when I needed 32mm 650b tires for my new Roadini, they were the only place 
I could find them. 
Shipping is expensive, but fast, at least to LA. 

https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-rivendell-big-back-rack-33r-large.html

On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 2:51:08 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Friends,
>
> I really appreciate what I’ve learned from you on this List; I owe you all 
> a great deal for the strides I’ve made - when I started I didn’t even know 
> I could raise my handlebars. I just like liked riding the bike and accepted 
> whatever parts/form the bike had when I bought it. So, hear me well when I 
> say I have affection and appreciation for you. 
>
> That said, it would please me very much if you would review my initial 
> post at the top of this thread. It was a straightforward WTB post. Somehow, 
> it has become a question of why (which I don’t mind answering) I want a new 
> rack, then a debate about other racks that would be better. I should change 
> my taillight, I should use a front rack, then it was decided I should have 
> no rack at all, and then you concluded I should try a wide variety of bags. 
> Some threads invite opinion, but I’ve re-read my OP several times and can’t 
> figure out how this was one of them.
>
> Meanwhile, I’ve had people (plural!) PM me saying they have this rack, and 
> then back out and decide to keep it. I tried to redirect this thread by not 
> engaging in it, and not only did the posts keep coming, but you began 
> adding them to my other thread about my Platypus. 
>
> I’ve had to ask myself what is it about me that is inviting this kind of 
> behavior? Is this how everyone else is treated on the List? I think not, 
> and I suspect we all know why.
>
> Do better. Because you ARE better. I truly believe that.
> Leah
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 12:23 PM, masmojo  wrote:
>
> I have one of the Realm TBD bags as well (and might get another) They are 
> good and really versatile. I use mine on my BMX cruiser, it fits the BMX 
> bars ever so well. BONUS: the Drip Camo colorway is the best!!  
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-6 mrg...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just got a ~9L bag that works on both saddle and handlebars that I'm 
>> very happy with. Fits everything I need for a multi hour ride and doesn't 
>> use a ton of space between wheel and saddle loops.
>>
>>
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0bGqkRUiGbnlMH;8B8FC7DD-DE70-4E28-9117-45759EB6E822
>>
>> This one is a Dark Realm TBD bag, but I think the important feature is 
>> that it has a rigid plastic liner that keeps its shape. Lots of bag makers 
>> do similar ones
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[RBW] Re: New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Dorothy C]

I like being able to see my whole purchase history in my account, via the 
page number scroller. I think the old site used to cut off at about 1 
year’s worth of transactions

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 8:16:22 AM UTC-8 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> I like the new look. Great to see Leah's excellently appointed Platypus 
> build up on the new news section. It would be nice if you could click on an 
> image to expand it. I like being able to check out all the little details 
> on people's bikes.
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:00:43 AM UTC-6 Mark Roland wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Looking good.  Regarding the sub categories, which indeed can be helpful, 
>> if you open the "3-bar" menu, you get the drop down major 
>> categories--Parts, Gear, Garage Sale, etc. By clicking the "+" sign next to 
>> a main category, you get subcategories--eg, under Parts, you get Bottom 
>> Brackets, Brakes, Cassettes, Etc. If you click on brakes, you get the whole 
>> shebang, blended together--calipers, levers, pads, cables--all intermingled 
>> with willy and nilly.  BUT, if you click directly on the word "Parts" 
>> instead of the "+", you get taken to the Catalog, which breaks down brakes 
>> into: Brake types, brake hardware, etc. (The catalog also appears to the 
>> right of the drop down main, but is cut off, at least on my laptop.) Would 
>> there be a way for that click on Parts to bring you to exclusively that 
>> "catalog style" menu JUST for parts? 
>>
>> Two sections that could use a further "+" or submenu IMO would be brakes 
>> and handlebars. 
>>
>> It's not an easy task to develop a logical taxonomy for web site 
>> navigation. Multiple pathways and redundancies are good, but can sometimes 
>> be confusing when different pathways use different nomenclature, or when 
>> it's not clear where exactly you are.  The ultimate is to have a visitor 
>> who finds what they are seeking in two or three easy no-brainer clicks.
>>
>> I imagine some further refinement and tweaking could be a benefit. 
>> Meanwhile, totally useable as is.
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:56:21 PM UTC-5 Dave wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>
>>> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
>>> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
>>> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
>>> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>>>
>>> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
>>> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one 
>>> site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head 
>>> to the homepage.
>>>
>>> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>>>
>>> Dave Schonenberg
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Dorothy C]

On the old site, Email when back in stock would never deliver to my Apple 
email account, only my work one. Wouldn’t show in junk folder either

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 10:18:23 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I'll spend some time getting used to it before commenting but one thing I 
> noticed is the geometry chart is compressed a bit too much and isn't really 
> legible - though right-click and open in a new window solves that issue :) 
>
> The old website was endearing but was certainly in need of a refresh! 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R-10 saddlebag support

[Dorothy C]

Analogcycles.com currently have them in stock in four different colors - 
original silver or ceracoated mustard, green or purple, although the latter 
looks more like a pink on my device

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 1:58:57 PM UTC-7 Jack Doran wrote:

> If any of you good people have a Nitto R10 rack you're not using, I'd be 
> interested in taking it off your hands.

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Re: [RBW] Secret Platy

[Dorothy C]

Congratulations Leah, I am so happy for you. I know what it is like to buy 
one Rivendell and love it so much you don’t want to ride anything else. My 
first was an Appaloosa, followed by a grey Roadini which is now on long 
term loan with my sister in Wales, Then a Cheviot, then a chameleon Clem 
(irresistible color), and finally an orange Roadini. I have them all set up 
differently for different purposes and ride them all equally. 
Your build is stunning. 
On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 6:43:15 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 8:34 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> I’ve gotten questions about my no-longer Super Secret Bike, so I’ll 
> answer them here, and attach photos (which you may have already seen on 
> Analog’s Instagram or the Mermaid thread). The photos are courtesy of 
> Analog. I don’t yet have the bike. It was ordered in May, and only now have 
> the parts arrived to make it a whole bike.
>
>
> I made the decision to make my pair of Rivendells a trio this summer. I 
> made a new goal to run more errands by bike. This was a challenge, because 
> as I’ve said before, the hills/mountains in Vegas are punishing. My 
> raspberry Platypus is set up with only a saddlebag support; I wanted to 
> keep that bike unburdened. The Clem is heavy, and putting a load and then 
> pedaling up the mountain was miserable. So, a 3rd bike, a mixte, with racks 
> and bags was on my wish list. A bike I could load up and lock up, and not 
> worry about. The Rosco Platy was rumored to be arriving in July, and I was 
> hoping for one of those. But news came that they would have beefy tubing 
> and were delayed indefinitely, so I gave up that idea. 
>
> It occurred to me I could try for another Platypus. But the presale was 
> long over and the new Platys were all living with their new owners. BUT, I 
> found one dealer who had a 55 mermaid frame sitting in the box and no one 
> had purchased it. I bought it had the frame sent to Analog and they did a 
> complete build for me in their trademark colorful style. We went with an 
> earthy look; greens and golds on that mermaid paint. We mixed up the brake 
> colors (one side bronze, one side green) and had a lot of fun with colorful 
> spoke nipples and valve stems. The lime pedals slay me. SON makes colorful 
> lights, so we added those as well. And best of all, I got to try Garbaruk - 
> prettier cogs and pulleys might exist but I’m doubtful. This is my first 1x 
> build. The front and rear Nitto racks were saved from previous bikes and 
> will be installed with the lights mounted on them. I will add olive 
> Backabikes on the rear and a Goldilocks Fanny to the bars.
>
> Since the bike was ordered, major life changes have occurred. We moved to 
> southwest Michigan last week, and the Clem would be no trouble on the 
> elevation here. This 2nd Platy is now probably superfluous. But, I’m still 
> overjoyed to have it, and like the other 2 bikes, it will get plenty of 
> miles. The winter has been mild so far and in between the chores of setting 
> up the new house and unpacking our things, I’ve been out on some brief 
> rides. People here keep telling me I need a “beater bike” for the winter, 
> but I just like riding my Rivendells. Should I tell them this is my beater 
> bike? 
>
> A common question I get that I’ll address here: Why don’t you sell the 
> Clem? Or let it be the utilitarian bike?
>
> The Clem will never be for sale. It’s hopelessly sentimental to me. I know 
> it’s hard to believe I’d care more about the Clem than the fancy mermaid 
> Platypus, but I do. That Clem is a hug. Everyone should have one.
>
> Three Rivendells is my limit. No more bikes, ever. I’m set!
> Pics in the next post…
> Leah
>
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[RBW] Re: Secret Platy

[Dorothy C]

This is my defense 

http://bikeyface.com/2016/01/12/new-shoes/


On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 6:52:12 AM UTC-8 Jingy wrote:

> "No more bikes, ever. I’m set!"
>
> Famous last words!
> Nice bike!
> Jim In Mpls
> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 10:33:28 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote:
>
>> It's cool, it's you!  What a colorful bike, fun secret project and 
>> exciting reveal; no doubt you'll have many happy miles hauling your 
>> groceries and other stuff when the Michigan weather cooperates which could 
>> be any day you aren't snowmobiling!  Congratulations, Leah.  I'm really 
>> happy for you!
>>
>> #RivSisters,
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-8 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That new Platypus is the coolest!
>>>
>>> Love the color combos...
>>>
>>> You outdid yourself!
>>>
>>> Congrats and may you have many joyful and safe miles on Secret Platy.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>>
>>> PS.
>>>
>>> I saw some of Garbaruk stuff on their site.
>>>
>>> Did most of the color parts come from Garbaruk?
>>>
>>> .
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Paul Racer Silver (for black)

[Dorothy C]

The original Paul Racers, not the medium are discontinued, it seems

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 11:04:13 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:

> Hello Sean and Ryan, apparently Paul Racers are a rare commodity since two 
> other people replied off list for them as well. So that would mean Sean is 
> 4th and Ryan is 5th in line. Sorry.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 9:38:43 PM UTC-5 Abcyclehank wrote:
>
>> I will get behind the original poster and Sean B. 😂.
>>
>> Ryan Hankinson
>> (616)929-4226 <(616)%20929-4226>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Taylor,
>>>
>>> I have a pair of Racers in silver that I would like to sell. I was 
>>> planning to convert my Surly Pacer to 650B, but I didn't like the look or 
>>> ride, so I gave up on it. So the brakes are nearly new, only rode around 
>>> the block with them. The reach is too long for the Pacer, so I may as well 
>>> sell them to someone who can use them. I'll PM you with the details and 
>>> pics later today.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:31:45 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>>
 The panda look requires you to mix the black and silver parts between 
 the brakes, I believe.

 Laing

 On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:20:02 AM UTC-5 Taylor M wrote:

> I have an incoming A Homer Hilsen and a set of mismatched Paul Racer 
> brakes, one black (front) and one brushed silver (rear). Anyone have a 
> silver front Racer brake to sell or trade for a black one? Also happy to 
> buy a complete set if that's preferrable.
>
> If not, the panda look is cool now, right...?
>
> Thanks!
> T
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[RBW] Re: Anybody regret their Cheviot sweater?

[Dorothy C]

I love my sweater and I have ordered the vest too.  I haven’t had much chance 
to wear the sweater yet as I live in Los Angeles, but as an expat Brit I felt I 
was duty bound to support the British wool trade ;). I have the Cheviot bike 
too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests

[Dorothy C]

I got one of each, and my vest arrived last week. It is itchy but I find it 
fine over a T shirt, and with a silk square round my neck, as the neckline is a 
bit higher than the sweater version. As someone who grew up in Wales, the smell 
is very nostalgic - smells like a sheep farm. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[Dorothy C]

Joel 
I have a Sugino XD2L 165 triple bought from Rivendell that has under 500 miles 
on it. I replaced it with the 170 Silver as that works a bit better for my long 
legs. It is 46/36/24. 
There is a little bit of pedal gouge on the crank arms but otherwise in good 
condition. $50 plus shipping?  If you interested, let me know

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 100/135 wheelset or 135mm rear wheel, light to medium duty for Toyo Atlantis

[Dorothy C]

I have a set of these that I used for about 200 miles on a hybrid I had 
before giving in to a Clem purchase that fit me much better. They are rim 
taped with Newbaums. How about $200 plus shipping?

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/wheels/products/700c-velocity-built-riv-standard-wheel-kit

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:35:07 PM UTC-7 Jay P wrote:

> Oops...   700c !
>
> Thank you, Dave --
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 4:02:07 PM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote:
>>
>> Should probably specify 700c or 26"
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 1:44:09 PM UTC-4, Jay P wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've been watching for awhile but none have been posted recently so...
>>>
>>> Anyone have a 135mm rear wheel   OR   wheelset, Shimano 8/9spd
>>>
>>> Ideally something pretty nice (Phil hub?  Lesnik-built?)
>>>
>>> I have a heavy duty wheelset for my Atlantis --- and would love to try 
>>> it with a lighter duty set + 44mm compass tires I have on the shelf.
>>>
>>> Please be in touch if you have something you might like to part with !
>>>
>>> Jay P. 
>>> Berkeley, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on odor removal from B-17 please

[Dorothy C]

I would say if cleaning the surface doesn’t suffice, put 1/4 to 1/2 cup 
diatomaceous earth in a small cloth bag, hang it off the saddle rails and 
wrap the whole thing in a plastic bag to let it absorb. You might get away 
with just powdering it, but it might cling to the leather. 

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 11:08:41 PM UTC-7 Joseph Tousignant wrote:

> Well that stinks!  (sorry, couldn't resist :-) 
>
> Seriously though,  liberally rubbing in some Brooks Proofhide on the top 
> may loosen much of the offending molecules and offending olfactory 
> updrafts. Wait an hour or so and wipe off as much as you can with several 
> paper towels.  Hopefully much of the offending sweat will come off along 
> with the excess Proofhide. Might try this twice,...for stubborn cases.
>
>   There is also a leather "cleaner" I've used called "Meguiar's Gold Class 
> Rich Leather Cleaner/Conditioner"  that might do the job (Since 1901,...so 
> it's been around a LONG time!)  I've never used it on my bicycle saddles 
> though,...just on several leather binocular cases and on my Mazda MX-5 
> Miata 2 seater leather seats.  In you case, I'd probably try this first. I 
> bought my 14 ounce bottle at a Pep Boys or Auto Zone Store several years 
> ago.
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 1:31:03 AM UTC-4 John P. in SF wrote:
>
>> Apologies for cross-posting, to SFR members
>>
>> I recently purchased a fine used Brooks B-17 saddle from a 'friend' and 
>> have been enjoying it.
>>
>> However.
>>
>> I found myself checking my personal glandular areas for odor when near my 
>> bike pile, thinking that perhaps I have eaten something or took a shirt or 
>> pair of boxers from the wrong pile that day. After a few confirming sniffs 
>> I looked elsewhere and easily found the offending source, my newly acquired 
>> B-17.
>>
>> Any tips for odor removal from the newbies or anciennes? 
>>
>> Thanks in advance, 
>>
>> John P in SF, who thought he smelled a bargain and got more than he 
>> wanted.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs A. Homer Hilsen

[Dorothy C]

Different brake styles would be the main thing, now that Sams are V brake 

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 7:05:38 AM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

> Old thread, I wonder if now since both are MIT and both now have the same 
> TT slope if the opinions expressed hold.  Also I don’t know if the tubing 
> is now the same.  
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 9:39:25 PM UTC-4, Paul Choi wrote:
>>
>> I'm new to Rivendell bikes and to this forum. I'm considering a SH or 
>> AHH. This would be a all-around bike that used for commuting, light touring 
>> and some occasional off road riding. These bikes seem similar. 
>>
>> Can you tell me the differences of these two bikes?
>>
>> For those of you that have both - your feedback would be really 
>> appreciated. 
>>
>> Paul in Santa Clara, CA.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Baby Bosco Bars!

[Dorothy C]

Might the Wavie bar work? Riv say it works for someone used to a flat bar 
but comes back more. If it is too wide it could be trimmed. 

On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 8:05:45 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Light compatilbity question for PV-8, 6V3W, Dynamo Hub Question

[Dorothy C]

Roberta, I have the topline light with the SP PV8 on my Cheviot and it 
works great. I have the Busch and Mueller IQ X paired with it for plenty of 
brightness. 

On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 7:54:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Roberta: The PV-8 ought to work just fine with the Toplight and with the 
> Edeluxe II; it's no different in its general power output than any other 
> current bicycle hub dynamo.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:58 PM Roberta  wrote:
>
>> I have a PV-8, 6V3W Dynamo hub, with a nice lamp and good rear light on 
>> my A Homer Hilsen.  I'd like to change the front light and rear light to 
>> brighter lights, but I'm not going to the expense of changing the hub, 
>> should that be the "answer" to my question.
>>
>> For the rear, would the PV-8 work with a Toplight Line Plus rear light?   
>> I think this is it: 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/lights/products/dyno-rack-light
>>
>> For the front, would it work with a SON Edelux II?  It's marked 6V-2,4W. 
>> I think this is it: 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/lights/products/schmidt-edelux-ii-polished
>>
>> These lights are on my Joe Appaloosa and I like them, so would be fine 
>> just changing my current AHH setup to what I have on the Joe Appaloosa, but 
>> I know there is a different Dyno hub on that bike.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta
>>
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Re: [RBW] Baby Bosco Bars!

[Dorothy C]

>From your latest IG pic, the Baby Bosco looks nicely proportioned to the 
small Clem

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 1:10:54 PM UTC-7 Corwin wrote:

> Personally, I think it's a good idea to introduce variety into stuff like 
> bikes for kids. If the kid likes the change (say handlebars for example) he 
> or she may have found a good fit. If he or she does not like the change - 
> they will much better appreciate when they find a good fit.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Corwin
>
> On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 9:30:10 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Dorothy, I suspect you’re right - those Wavie bars a probably a good 
>> choice. Alas, I’m done messing around with bar and stem setups so this kid 
>> is going to have to live with Boscos, ha! Kids can get used to anything, 
>> right? 😉
>>
>> This is also where I admit that I have rolled my eyes at those who change 
>> around their loved ones’ bikes without the loved ones’ endorsements...I am 
>> now just as guilty.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>>
>> Might the Wavie bar work? Riv say it works for someone used to a flat 
>> bar but comes back more. If it is too wide it could be trimmed. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 8:05:45 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad 
>>>
>>> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote: 
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[RBW] Re: Sackville Banana Sack

[Dorothy C]

On the Riv product page there is a clip showing what you can fit in a 
Bananasax

https://vimeo.com/271338447

On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 3:02:20 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> Got it.  Thanks.  Just wanted to make sure it wasn't much wider than the 
> saddle.  That looks like it'll work quite well.
>
> doug
>
> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 2:51:25 PM UTC-7, Roberta wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes   You understand it correctly. I took some pics. Mine is mounted and 
>> smushed. Still you’ll see the shape and rough dimensions. You can easily 
>> overstuff if needed. 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 5:03:06 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>>>
>>> So the 9" is from the back opening flap to the front end next to the 
>>> seatpost?  
>>>
>>> And the 7" is width across the saddle?  Looks like it's roughly the same 
>>> width as the saddle  My Brooks is just a smidgen less that 7" wide at its 
>>> widest point.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help on this.
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 1:30:13 PM UTC-7, Roberta wrote:

 Doug

 It is longest top to bottom. 

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[RBW] Re: Sackville Banana Sack

[Dorothy C]

If you have Moose style bars they fit nicely in the triangulation, too. 

On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 7:25:10 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:

> On the Riv product page there is a clip showing what you can fit in a 
> Bananasax
>
> https://vimeo.com/271338447
>
> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 3:02:20 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> Got it.  Thanks.  Just wanted to make sure it wasn't much wider than the 
>> saddle.  That looks like it'll work quite well.
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 2:51:25 PM UTC-7, Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes   You understand it correctly. I took some pics. Mine is mounted and 
>>> smushed. Still you’ll see the shape and rough dimensions. You can easily 
>>> overstuff if needed. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 5:03:06 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So the 9" is from the back opening flap to the front end next to the 
>>>> seatpost?  
>>>>
>>>> And the 7" is width across the saddle?  Looks like it's roughly the 
>>>> same width as the saddle  My Brooks is just a smidgen less that 7" wide at 
>>>> its widest point.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help on this.
>>>>
>>>> doug
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 1:30:13 PM UTC-7, Roberta wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> It is longest top to bottom. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Roberta 
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

[Dorothy C]

“Stare at components and accessories I’d like to try”
That’s pretty much why I have ended up with four Rivendells - Appaloosa, 
Cheviot, Roadini, Clem L :)

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 7:36:13 AM UTC-7 Lefebeaver wrote:

> I started building my Atlantis a bit under two years ago; other than 
> wheels (new, fm Rich) I started with used parts and gradually have been 
> upgrading as I go. I've gone through 3 different front racks, different 
> tire sizes and added fenders; eventually bought dyno lights. I recently 
> decided it was 'done' - but by that I mean I've got it to a good place that 
> makes me happy. I've already squirreled away some cork handgrips, and have 
> been haunting the FS listings, knowing eventually I'll want to put some 
> upright bars on it... I got it so it could evolve, and that's what it will 
> continue to do. Part of the fun of these bikes is how versatile they are! 
>
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 8:50:51 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> As I wait for my first Rivendell (sort of) patiently, I can't help but 
>> prowl their website and this group and stare at components and accessories 
>> that I think I'd like to try. But...the only bike I've ever monkeyed with 
>> is my current one that came with a fantastic Shimano RD...and that's about 
>> it as far as solid components go. So I'm always playing with the idea of 
>> getting a different crank, different brakes, different this or that. 
>>
>> My question (finally) is this - of those of you who have done an a la 
>> carte build through Rivendell, who just leaves everything they picked out 
>> and who is constantly trying different components? 
>>
>> I didn't spring for any Paul components or a set of Rich's wheels, but 
>> everything that's coming on this bike is nicer than I need it to be...so 
>> the plan is to never change anything except bar tape. But...there is a lot 
>> of buying and selling of components here and elswhere.
>>
>> So yeah...do you tinker with a Riv build, or do you let it be? 
>>
>> -Ben
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Roadini day + request for a good looking crankset recommendation

[Dorothy C]

That is a lovely setup, Bones. My Roadini has a dirt drop stem and Nitto 
noodles with the IRD stem mount shifter clamp and Silver shifters. 
Currently has the Silver wide low double and an 11-28 cassette.

On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 7:21:05 AM UTC-7 abraham nussbaum wrote:

> I run a da Vinci  tandem 
> triple crankset as a single speed. It's beautiful and unique. It's also 
> flexible, as I have previously ridden it as a double.
>
> So many great choices these days...
>
> [image: cranks-b.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 6:46:54 AM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>
>> Before I put the IRD double on the Roadini, I had a Holdsworth (similar 
>> to an IRD single) single 1x10 setup:
>>
>> [image: IMG_1774s.jpg]
>>
>> I run an NOS Spidel double crank with a single Sugino drillium chainring 
>> (3/32 chain so it can be used on a derailleur bike also) on my Frank Jones, 
>> Sr.
>>
>> [image: IMG_0126.jpg]
>>
>>
>> Yes, both cranks a basically copies of the Campagnolo Nuovo Record.
>>
>> I currently am building an NOS Stronglight 93 (similar to the Stronglight 
>> 105 below) into a semi compact double:
>>
>>
>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>>
>> And of course there is always the 42/26 Rene Herse if you want to get 
>> really spendy:
>>
>> [image: IMG_0687 (2).jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 12:14:22 AM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>>
>>> All, much appreciate all the recos.
>>>
>>> Now I know what to hunt for (if I choose to go the classics route on 
>>> eBay) or budget for (IRD/VO).  The Silver cranks are superb, but I feel 
>>> that it better suites (in terms of aesthetics)  a country bike like Sam or 
>>> Atlantis.  
>>>
>>> In the past I have seen some bike pictures on this forum that had really 
>>> cool looking minimal crank sets that I would have loved to put on the 
>>> Roadini.  Wish I had asked the owners for details.  
>>>
>>> I'd be interested to hear if anybody has experience running 1x with 
>>> chainring that's not specifically designed for 1x.  In general I'm a fan of 
>>> 2x setup.  I have Rivendell's Clipper wide low and XT 28/40t cranks.  They 
>>> have worked perfectly for me on various Riv-fied hybrids/MTBs, Appaloosa, 
>>> Atlantis and Susie.   After riding those bikes this Roadini doesn't even 
>>> feel like it needs multiple gears!  For the speeds I ride, there's no need 
>>> for a chainring bigger than 44t ever.  If I compromise the top speed a 
>>> little more and go with single 40 or 42t chainring, I can probably manage 
>>> most uphill roads around here with 34t cog, provided the setup can be 
>>> reliable.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for the pointers!
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.

[Dorothy C]

Surlyprof, thanks for the mention of 2 pockets. I had gotten the earlier 
one with the inner toggle, and when the second one I bought came with a 
flap instead, I never thought to look under it for a pocket. 

Speaking of things I didn’t know, I discarded the Coroplast stiffener out 
of my first one thinking it was just packing material. 

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 4:38:59 PM UTC-7 Mark Roland wrote:

> I got mine a couple orders back, along with a jumbo grabby. I've been 
> grabbing the grabby but just broke out the banana on a short ride earlier 
> this evening. Both were purchased when I think the only color was gray. I 
> was hesistant, partly because I really liked the brown of my old jumbo 
> grabby, which someone grabbed out of my car :( a while back, partly because 
> I was worried about dirt. 
>
> No worries, most of the dirt is on the light side anyway. I almost think I 
> may like the gray better than the brown. And the banana is great--as 
> Roberta says, a bit roomier than my XS Sackville (in brown). And the gray 
> with the brown leather trim is high zoot & goes with my dark blue & black & 
> chrome Fuji Finest. Now I just have to break it in a bit. Shouldn't be too 
> hard as with winter coming the bag with more room will get the call more 
> often than not.
>
> [image: IMG_20200924_174557294.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20200924_174547405.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20200924_174523714_MP.jpg]
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 12:58:39 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
>> I bought a "blue" banana sax and I got a dark blue color with an inside 
>> security fabric flap.  I called Spencer (inventory manager extraordinaire) 
>> wanting to order another just like this, and he told me all of his blue 
>> bags in stock are like this with the flap.  Now I can tip over and the 
>> contents of my bag will stay inside the bag.
>>
>> This is my preference to the inside toggle, and if it is yours, he has 
>> about a dozen in stock, and we're the only ones who know about it!   It is 
>> not mentioned on their product page.  Order before it's too late!
>>
>> The color is more a royal blue color and the bag is very stiff, with 
>> inside pocket on one side and a second inside pocket with stiffener on the 
>> side.  It reads a touch purple when I put it next to my AHH with a bright 
>> light shining on it.  It holds a bit more than the XS Saddle sack, which I 
>> like but sold recently because just a touch too small for me.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Dorothy C]

Eamon, on Instagram last week when Will’s new Susie was pictured, in the 
comment there was a summary of ETA’s on frames, snipped from the 
newsletter. 
 When someone asked about any plans for the Roadini he said “Not in the 
foreseeable future. Of course, that does not mean “forever.”

On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:34:31 PM UTC-7 Eamon Nordquist wrote:

> Is the Roadini discontinued, and the Charlie H Gallop it’s replacement? If 
> so, I guess I understand why they may have chosen to go with caliper brakes 
> over canti/v-brakes. I suppose I’m not 100% against the change. It is an 
> interesting bike either way.
>
> Eamon
> Seattle 

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[RBW] Re: Cargo Bike progress

[Dorothy C]

Looks lovely. Will you use a chain keeper with the Altus?

 I am planning a Roadini 1x with an Altus rear derailleur and a Wolf Tooth 
Components dropstop chainring, which I hope will be sufficient. I am 
putting the chainring in the middle position with a Riv Silver bashguard on 
the outer slot. 

On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 5:30:48 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> I finished the wheels for the Cargo bike. 
> Custom ordered polished 48 spoke 650B Velocity Cliffhanger rims (ordered 
> last year for GBW, changed the GBW to a large 700C when this bike became 
> available), NOS Sansin high flange tandem rear hub, 9 year old SON Klassic 
> front dyno-hub, Wheelsmith DB spokes. Kenda Kwick Seven.5 Sport Koffee 
> Skinwall 27.5 x 2.2 tires.
> Shimano Altus M310 rear derailleur, ConTek (Tektro 849AL) 120mm V-brakes, 
> NOS SR seatpost, Brooks B-68 Aged Saddle, Double clamp bolt Nitto stem, 
> Nitto Wavie handlebars, IRD NeedL BlastR headset, 172.5 Sun XCD cankarms 
> with 1x VO 44t chainring, chrome pump.
> Plenty of clearance for fenders and the V-brakes will clear the fenders. I 
> love the way the tire sidewalls kind of match the saddle. Need to switch to 
> a narrower bottom bracket
>
> [image: IMG_0710.jpg]
>
>
> [image: IMG_0711.jpg]
>
>
> Laing
>
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2020 miles in 2020

[Dorothy C]

Leah, I have said it before, but I am so sorry about yor Dad.  
Congratulations on a great achievement and I am glad a Rivendell bike has 
helped you this year.  Here’s to many more miles of cycling enjoyment. 

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> At the beginning of 2020 (back when we were so naive and hopeful) I set an 
> ambitious goal for myself: 2,020 miles in 2020. This may seem small to some 
> of you, but I live out in suburbia, surrounded by punishing 
> hills/mountains, and there are few places to go out here. Most trips 
> require a car. The one bike commute that gave me 4 miles/day was to the 
> boys’ school, but by March, that was gone - replaced by virtual school. 
>
> Having everyone at home all the time was a blessing and a challenge. I 
> started going out in the evenings, looking for places to go by bike to 
> clear my mind and wear out my body. I rode down the mountain and began 
> exploring the development there. They had thoughtfully put in bike lanes 
> and a blacktop bike path, and I discovered that I could make a 10.1 mile 
> loop, start to finish. The thing was, I only had my stock Clementine - the 
> 2019, super-long model, set up to be a school commuter. Beautiful and 
> capable, but heavy. I ordered a new wheelset and dyno lighting from Analog, 
> and that really changed the game for me. Lightened up (in weight and 
> lumens!), I could venture further from home, regardless of elevation or 
> sunlight. I began to rack up miles. 
>
> I pedaled through a global pandemic. I pedaled through triple digit heat. 
> I pedaled through the entire Hamilton soundtrack, memorizing it. I pedaled 
> through wildfire smoke and record-breaking temps. I pedaled through rain. 
> And wind. When a pulmonary embolism robbed me of my young, handsome, 
> healthy dad in July, I pedaled (sometimes sobbing) through that, too. I 
> pedaled in Minnesota humidity with my basket full of stuffed animals, my 
> tiny niece shadowing me on her little bike. I pedaled through springtime, 
> when entire trees exploded in blooms, and I will pedal through fall when 
> the leaves are a riot of color. On October 9th, I hit my mileage goal. 
>
> 2,020 miles in 2020. 
>
> I’m going to keep pedaling, but I may finish out the year on a raspberry 
> Platypus, depending on when the wheelset gets here. Until then, I’ll keep 
> using this Clem, stout and dressed as a commuter, as an exercise bike. 
> Don’t let anyone tell you you can’t - you can, and you’ll have muscles, to 
> boot.
>
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Joe Appaloosa

[Dorothy C]

I did the first option Laing suggests - had the bike shop lace a Kasai 
dynacoil into the Alex rim that came with my Appaloosa. 36 spoke 3 cross 
with labor and new spokes came to $100, plus the dynamo purchase. That is 
in Los Angeles so labor cost would probably be lower elsewhere. 
I have a set of Velocity NoBS rim wheels, and at least the set I got are 
Schraeder drilled, which means a different tube and hand pump than the rest 
of my bikes, which is a bit annoying. 

On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 5:31:40 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> Depends on the budget:
>Lowest budget - just lace the best front dyno hub (Shimano or Kasai) 
> that meets your budget into the front rim that you already have. See if you 
> can find a spoking pattern that allows you to re-use the same spokes with 
> new nipples or stainless double butted spokes (Wheelsmith, DT, Sapim). I 
> weigh 280 and have reused spokes on many occasions with no ill effects. I 
> laced a Shutter Precision dyno hub into a VO touring wheelset with the same 
> spokes and nipples, then transferred the same hubs and spokes to Alex DM-23 
> rims. And then changed back to the VO rims.
>Low budget full wheelset - Shimano rear hub, Kasai Dyno front hub, 
> Velocity NO BS rims, stainless double butted spokes (Wheelsmith, DT, Sapim).
>... Lots of choices for medium budget - same as Low budget with 
> Velocity Atlas or Cliffhanger rims.
>High budget - Phil Wood rear hub, SON widebody front dyno hub, Velocity 
> Cliffhanger rims, stainless double butted spokes (Wheelsmith, DT, Sapim).
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach, FL
>
>
> On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 8:55:03 PM UTC-4, River Bailey wrote:
>>
>> Looking for advice on upgrading my wheelset. Just built my JA with the 
>> Velocity-Built Budget Alex. Looking to run a Dyno front light sooo? The 
>> Velocity-Built Riv standard Atlas seems like a good solution but they're 
>> sold out. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_4178.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 2020 miles in 2020

[Dorothy C]

Leah, your Platypus frame is featured on Bikesnob’s blog, and his wife just 
got a Clem

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 8:03:10 AM UTC-7 DeeterDeeter wrote:

> Hell yeah! Very inspirational thread! I'm glad you shared this journey 
> with all the heartbreak and joy!
>
> On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 4:01:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> At the beginning of 2020 (back when we were so naive and hopeful) I set 
>> an ambitious goal for myself: 2,020 miles in 2020. This may seem small to 
>> some of you, but I live out in suburbia, surrounded by punishing 
>> hills/mountains, and there are few places to go out here. Most trips 
>> require a car. The one bike commute that gave me 4 miles/day was to the 
>> boys’ school, but by March, that was gone - replaced by virtual school. 
>>
>> Having everyone at home all the time was a blessing and a challenge. I 
>> started going out in the evenings, looking for places to go by bike to 
>> clear my mind and wear out my body. I rode down the mountain and began 
>> exploring the development there. They had thoughtfully put in bike lanes 
>> and a blacktop bike path, and I discovered that I could make a 10.1 mile 
>> loop, start to finish. The thing was, I only had my stock Clementine - the 
>> 2019, super-long model, set up to be a school commuter. Beautiful and 
>> capable, but heavy. I ordered a new wheelset and dyno lighting from Analog, 
>> and that really changed the game for me. Lightened up (in weight and 
>> lumens!), I could venture further from home, regardless of elevation or 
>> sunlight. I began to rack up miles. 
>>
>> I pedaled through a global pandemic. I pedaled through triple digit heat. 
>> I pedaled through the entire Hamilton soundtrack, memorizing it. I pedaled 
>> through wildfire smoke and record-breaking temps. I pedaled through rain. 
>> And wind. When a pulmonary embolism robbed me of my young, handsome, 
>> healthy dad in July, I pedaled (sometimes sobbing) through that, too. I 
>> pedaled in Minnesota humidity with my basket full of stuffed animals, my 
>> tiny niece shadowing me on her little bike. I pedaled through springtime, 
>> when entire trees exploded in blooms, and I will pedal through fall when 
>> the leaves are a riot of color. On October 9th, I hit my mileage goal. 
>>
>> 2,020 miles in 2020. 
>>
>> I’m going to keep pedaling, but I may finish out the year on a raspberry 
>> Platypus, depending on when the wheelset gets here. Until then, I’ll keep 
>> using this Clem, stout and dressed as a commuter, as an exercise bike. 
>> Don’t let anyone tell you you can’t - you can, and you’ll have muscles, to 
>> boot.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 2020 miles in 2020

[Dorothy C]

Ah, now I read the comments and see you have already seen it

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 11:00:55 AM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:

> Leah, your Platypus frame is featured on Bikesnob’s blog, and his wife 
> just got a Clem
>
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 8:03:10 AM UTC-7 DeeterDeeter wrote:
>
>> Hell yeah! Very inspirational thread! I'm glad you shared this journey 
>> with all the heartbreak and joy!
>>
>> On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 4:01:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At the beginning of 2020 (back when we were so naive and hopeful) I set 
>>> an ambitious goal for myself: 2,020 miles in 2020. This may seem small to 
>>> some of you, but I live out in suburbia, surrounded by punishing 
>>> hills/mountains, and there are few places to go out here. Most trips 
>>> require a car. The one bike commute that gave me 4 miles/day was to the 
>>> boys’ school, but by March, that was gone - replaced by virtual school. 
>>>
>>> Having everyone at home all the time was a blessing and a challenge. I 
>>> started going out in the evenings, looking for places to go by bike to 
>>> clear my mind and wear out my body. I rode down the mountain and began 
>>> exploring the development there. They had thoughtfully put in bike lanes 
>>> and a blacktop bike path, and I discovered that I could make a 10.1 mile 
>>> loop, start to finish. The thing was, I only had my stock Clementine - the 
>>> 2019, super-long model, set up to be a school commuter. Beautiful and 
>>> capable, but heavy. I ordered a new wheelset and dyno lighting from Analog, 
>>> and that really changed the game for me. Lightened up (in weight and 
>>> lumens!), I could venture further from home, regardless of elevation or 
>>> sunlight. I began to rack up miles. 
>>>
>>> I pedaled through a global pandemic. I pedaled through triple digit 
>>> heat. I pedaled through the entire Hamilton soundtrack, memorizing it. I 
>>> pedaled through wildfire smoke and record-breaking temps. I pedaled through 
>>> rain. And wind. When a pulmonary embolism robbed me of my young, handsome, 
>>> healthy dad in July, I pedaled (sometimes sobbing) through that, too. I 
>>> pedaled in Minnesota humidity with my basket full of stuffed animals, my 
>>> tiny niece shadowing me on her little bike. I pedaled through springtime, 
>>> when entire trees exploded in blooms, and I will pedal through fall when 
>>> the leaves are a riot of color. On October 9th, I hit my mileage goal. 
>>>
>>> 2,020 miles in 2020. 
>>>
>>> I’m going to keep pedaling, but I may finish out the year on a raspberry 
>>> Platypus, depending on when the wheelset gets here. Until then, I’ll keep 
>>> using this Clem, stout and dressed as a commuter, as an exercise bike. 
>>> Don’t let anyone tell you you can’t - you can, and you’ll have muscles, to 
>>> boot.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Dorothy C]

Ray, I think they are the wrong size

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:52:26 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:

>
> Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
> Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?
>
> Ray
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>> I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news is 
>> that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are sold 
>> out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next year.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Dorothy C]

Leah, I have a 700c Atlas set bought from Riv I no longer have a frame for, 
Shimano Deore hubs, 135 rear spacing 36f/36r I would sell you if you want 
an in the meantime set

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:53:29 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:

> Ray, I think they are the wrong size
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:52:26 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>>
>> Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
>> Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
>>> I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news is 
>>> that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are sold 
>>> out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next year.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Dorothy C]

Sounds good. Happy riding. 
I am in a similar boat - after leaving my grey Roadini with my sister in 
Wales in December to have something nice to ride when I visit family, I 
snagged the last web special orange Roadini mid September. I have had an 
order in for Dyad rims (already have Bitex hubs and Sapim spokes)  since 
early October, and still waiting. 
Bike is almost completely built - even put the Crane bell and the bartape 
on!
Losco handlebars and a Nitto faceplate stem this time, vs the dirtdrop / 
Noodles on the grey one. 

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 3:08:57 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Dorothy, you are the nicest, and thank you for that offer.❤️  I think I’m 
> actually going to go with the silver Analog has on site (they have to check 
> first). If that works out, I think I could possibly have everything I need 
> for a build by late next week! And it’s a good thing, too. I need to give 
> this poor Clem a break. I think it might fall apart beneath me if it 
> doesn’t get a tune-up soon. After I reached my 2,020 mile goal Oct 9th, I 
> decided I should press on for 3,000 miles. I’m at 2,519.9 right now. 
> There’s clunks and ticks and squawks that I’m hoping aren’t dangerous. I 
> can’t give up my bike until I have the Platypus to ride. 😜
>
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 7, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>
> Leah, I have a 700c Atlas set bought from Riv I no longer have a frame 
> for, Shimano Deore hubs, 135 rear spacing 36f/36r I would sell you if you 
> want an in the meantime set
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:53:29 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> Ray, I think they are the wrong size
>>
>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:52:26 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
>>> Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news 
>>>> is that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are 
>>>> sold out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next 
>>>> year.
>>>>
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