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Re: [RBW] Roaduno shakedown

2024-11-24 Thread DavidP

Great to see another Roaduno - lots to admire about this build! Thanks for 
sharing!

-Dave

On Sunday, November 24, 2024 at 5:30:38 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Yes, a pretty and, more important, what looks like a very efficiently and 
> comfortably rideable build. 
>
> What is the gearing — ie, what size ring and how many teeth on each cog?
>
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 3:22 PM P W  wrote:
>
>> Love this one!
>>
>> Makes me want to put tanwalls on mine next…
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2024, at 8:45 AM, J-D Bamford  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Finished building the Roaduno (my first Rivendell!) and took it on a 90 
>> minute shakedown ride in Denver yesterday. Really smooth, enjoyable ride.
>>
>>
>> Long quill stem and VO Left Bank handlebars are a joy to view as well as 
>> feel in hand. The small army surplus pouch on the handlebars is a long time 
>> fave - just big enough for a small burly lock or mini-U and a couple other 
>> compact items. I hadn’t finished off the grips yet - wanted to ride/confirm 
>> my stem length first. Finished the build after dark and hadn’t noticed the 
>> upward tilt on my saddle while it was crooked in the stand… but this sure 
>> was comfortable while riding! Need to change the dyno light connectors from 
>> plastic plug (SP) to metal spade/socket (SON). Longer BB so I can run this 
>> triple as a single ring with ankle/cuff/grease guard. Wheels and tires 
>> aren’t the lightest, but I had the SON/Dyad front in hand so had Rich build 
>> up the rear on a Dyad to match. Shikoro 42mm tires feel a bit sluggish 
>> compared to RH - they’re the one item I’d do differently.
>>
>>
>> Much of this build came off my circa 2012 VO Polyvalent, which is going 
>> into semi-retirement as garage/wall art. Main difference between the bikes 
>> is that the PolyV turned on a dime due to its shorter wheelbase (by roughly 
>> 3”) and rando front geometry. Whereas the Roaduno is more of a long, gentle 
>> carver. With any load, like groceries, I always felt too on top of the 
>> PolyV, and it wasn’t reassuring esp if using rear-loaded panniers (where 
>> steering got numb). The Roaduno’s front end seems better balanced, and I 
>> assume it’ll handle loads of rear groceries with aplomb due to Riv’s stated 
>> design goals. This is my first Riv, so I’m mostly only going on reading 
>> Grant’s words over the last two decades.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone selling recent/old BQ issues?

2024-11-24 Thread 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch

Minh, I like the idea of Eric Marth as audiobook narrator! Perfect for the 
job.

Paul 

On Sunday, November 24, 2024 at 5:35:14 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> as a fan of eric's video on youtubes, may i propose a (long) series of 
> video reading each issue as a retrospective on today, i would imagine there 
> were some prescient topics for example the rise of 'big' tires, gravel 
> racing to name a few
>
> On Sunday, November 24, 2024 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Paul, thanks as always for your thoughtful reply, I always appreciate 
>> your messages and emails.
>>
>> Dustin, thank you for the kind offer, PM sent! :0) 
>>
>> On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 8:13:26 PM UTC-5 Dustin wrote:
>>
>>> Uff.  Sent to early.  
>>>
>>> Eric:  I, too, missed out on the saddle, but happy to share custody of 
>>> this collection. Reach out anytime you are headed towards Richmond and we 
>>> can figure it out. 
>>>
>>> Paul:  Thanks for curating the collection and attempting to 
>>> diplomatically relinquish it to the community!  
>>>
>>> Dustin in VA
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2024, at 12:50 PM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> So sorry Eric. I should have run it by you, but the whole thing began 
>>> sort of organically. It's going to a fellow who bought Ian's old Atlantis a 
>>> couple years ago, Dustin Donley.
>>>
>>> The early issues of Vintage Bicycle Quarterly are the real prize. I 
>>> thought a bit before including those. But I am going through a decluttering 
>>> & repurposing of my old art studio of 43 years and it seems it has spread 
>>> like a virus to the bike room. (Sometime next year I will be selling my 
>>> cycling book collection too.)
>>>
>>> This is what happens when you turn 78 and the daughter decides she does 
>>> not wish to deal with it later on.. ha.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I will put in a good word for you in case Dustin wishes to 
>>> "unload" the collection as he reads it. I will write him a note with your 
>>> contact info that you desire right of first refusal if you wish me to 
>>> include that on a post-it note inside the box lid. (He's buying the fancy 
>>> box I used too.)
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 12:27:34 PM EST, Eric Marth <
>>> eric...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm adding the full run of BQs and the brown Brooks Professional saddle 
>>> to my all-time Paul Germain heartbreaks. Hoping the list doesn't get any 
>>> longer!
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 10:58:42 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems I owe apologies all around. Nathan, please forgive my 
>>> highjacking your original post. 
>>> Also, to others who reached out to me by PM with the wish to purchase my 
>>> BQ collection, a local pickup wins out over all I am afraid, especially 
>>> since I know the fellow.  
>>> I am sorry for any inconvenience or disappointment I may have caused in 
>>> the matter.  
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:30:11 PM UTC-5 nbar...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Would love to buy some recent/old BQ issues if you have a stack lying 
>>> around :)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> - Nathan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fall Photos 2024

2024-11-24 Thread Keith Paugh

Awesome Brown bike!k.On Nov 24, 2024, at 7:26 PM, Eric Karnes wrote:An admittedly bad photo compared to all the lovely examples above! But out for a short ride up the Schuylkill River Trail here in Philly as the winter-ish weather finally starts to descend. Still a few brown leaves left on the trees. I’m very gradually swapping out (what were meant to be) temporary parts-bin pieces on Hilsen. To be continued this winter…On Tuesday, November 19, 2024 at 8:16:51 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:More loveliness. I think I see elves peering from the undergrowth.On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 8:29 PM Jason Fuller wrote:Chris, Patrick, Ryan - thanks for the kind words! At the risk of oversharing, here are two more from nearby sections of trail. I have a new phone whose camera settings are actually pulling back on the saturation versus real life, I would say the greens were more rich and the white balance was more warm in reality. I should figure out the adjustments; my last phone tended to exaggerate slightly, so the other way. But to answer your question Patrick - this is just an unedited point-and-shoot photo without too much thought - I just can't make this setting look bad! Here is a link to the Strava activity, you can see whereabouts the photos were taken on the map I believe too. Gives some context of its location compared to the city - this is the only valley in the area that one can travel so far along by bike; the rest are either protected or too rugged to bring a bike along. https://www.strava.com/activities/12925914569I find that this sort of otherworldly effect from all the hanging moss and lichen happens in pockets within the forests north of town - there is plenty of this, but it's constantly changing as you travel along through it - some sections of forest have little moss but tons of salal bush and sword ferns.. going west, the terrain becomes markedly more rocky as you approach the ocean coastline.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone selling recent/old BQ issues?

2024-11-24 Thread Tyler Ryan

I have a very nearly complete collection of BQ going back to the early 
issues. I happened to work with a former editor at BQ and I think he gave 
up cycling after PBP... anyway part of his purge was his collection and I 
got them all for free!



On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 9:50:12 AM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> So sorry Eric. I should have run it by you, but the whole thing began sort 
> of organically. It's going to a fellow who bought Ian's old Atlantis a 
> couple years ago, Dustin Donley.
>
> The early issues of Vintage Bicycle Quarterly are the real prize. I 
> thought a bit before including those. But I am going through a decluttering 
> & repurposing of my old art studio of 43 years and it seems it has spread 
> like a virus to the bike room. (Sometime next year I will be selling my 
> cycling book collection too.)
>
> This is what happens when you turn 78 and the daughter decides she does 
> not wish to deal with it later on.. ha.
>
> Anyway, I will put in a good word for you in case Dustin wishes to 
> "unload" the collection as he reads it. I will write him a note with your 
> contact info that you desire right of first refusal if you wish me to 
> include that on a post-it note inside the box lid. (He's buying the fancy 
> box I used too.)
>
> Paul
>
> [image: Inline image]
>
> On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 12:27:34 PM EST, Eric Marth <
> eric...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> I'm adding the full run of BQs and the brown Brooks Professional saddle to 
> my all-time Paul Germain heartbreaks. Hoping the list doesn't get any 
> longer!
>
> On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 10:58:42 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> It seems I owe apologies all around. Nathan, please forgive my highjacking 
> your original post. 
> Also, to others who reached out to me by PM with the wish to purchase my 
> BQ collection, a local pickup wins out over all I am afraid, especially 
> since I know the fellow.  
> I am sorry for any inconvenience or disappointment I may have caused in 
> the matter.  
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:30:11 PM UTC-5 nbar...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Would love to buy some recent/old BQ issues if you have a stack lying 
> around :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Nathan
>
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Re: [RBW] OGK grips: lessons learned - a follow-up question

2024-11-24 Thread Doug Van Cleve

Howdy folks.

I read thru this whole thing, and to my surprise nobody mentioned what I
would do.  I looked up the grips on RBW.com, and they seem to be some kind
of rubbery stuff?  Anyway, every time I wanted to remove grips that
wouldn’t come off just from pulling toward the end of the bar with my
fingers on the front edge (which usually makes the inside diameter increase
slightly), I’ve just worked a bit of dish soap under the stem side than
wiggled and twisted a bit at a time until more of the grip releases.
Lather, rinse, repeat until it comes off then clean everything up with
water and dry.  Am I missing something?

Regards, Doug
Chandler, AZ

On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 7:50 PM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners
Bunch  wrote:

> Following the OGK removal I went with leather wrapped around Newbaum's as
> grips for this Boscomoose..
>
> The asymmetry and irregularity are, uh, intentional. Yeah, that's it.
> Intentional.
>
> While it's clear I'm not ready to provide leather-grip-wrap services
> professionally, I'm comfortable with the aesthetics of the outcome. It
> feels good in the hands. I've since added a few coats of shellac to the
> twine discourage rapid unexpected disassembly. I've have not ridden with
> them yet; it may all fall apart under actual usage.
>
> If so, I'll chalk it up to experience. If not, I'll have fun using it,
> even more knowing that I put it together.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
> who is still deciding which bag should ride there: brown SaddleSack XS
> (shown), blue SaddleSack XS, or old school tan Baggins Keven's
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Re: [RBW] Roaduno shakedown

2024-11-24 Thread P W

Love this one!Makes me want to put tanwalls on mine next…P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Nov 24, 2024, at 8:45 AM, J-D Bamford wrote:Finished building the Roaduno (my first Rivendell!) and took it on a 90 minute shakedown ride in Denver yesterday. Really smooth, enjoyable ride.Long quill stem and VO Left Bank handlebars are a joy to view as well as feel in hand. The small army surplus pouch on the handlebars is a long time fave - just big enough for a small burly lock or mini-U and a couple other compact items. I hadn’t finished off the grips yet - wanted to ride/confirm my stem length first. Finished the build after dark and hadn’t noticed the upward tilt on my saddle while it was crooked in the stand… but this sure was comfortable while riding! Need to change the dyno light connectors from plastic plug (SP) to metal spade/socket (SON). Longer BB so I can run this triple as a single ring with ankle/cuff/grease guard. Wheels and tires aren’t the lightest, but I had the SON/Dyad front in hand so had Rich build up the rear on a Dyad to match. Shikoro 42mm tires feel a bit sluggish compared to RH - they’re the one item I’d do differently.Much of this build came off my circa 2012 VO Polyvalent, which is going into semi-retirement as garage/wall art. Main difference between the bikes is that the PolyV turned on a dime due to its shorter wheelbase (by roughly 3”) and rando front geometry. Whereas the Roaduno is more of a long, gentle carver. With any load, like groceries, I always felt too on top of the PolyV, and it wasn’t reassuring esp if using rear-loaded panniers (where steering got numb). The Roaduno’s front end seems better balanced, and I assume it’ll handle loads of rear groceries with aplomb due to Riv’s stated design goals. This is my first Riv, so I’m mostly only going on reading Grant’s words over the last two decades.

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Re: [RBW] Roaduno shakedown

2024-11-24 Thread Patrick Moore

Yes, a pretty and, more important, what looks like a very efficiently and
comfortably rideable build.

What is the gearing — ie, what size ring and how many teeth on each cog?

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 3:22 PM P W  wrote:

> Love this one!
>
> Makes me want to put tanwalls on mine next…
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 24, 2024, at 8:45 AM, J-D Bamford  wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
> Finished building the Roaduno (my first Rivendell!) and took it on a 90
> minute shakedown ride in Denver yesterday. Really smooth, enjoyable ride.
>
>
> Long quill stem and VO Left Bank handlebars are a joy to view as well as
> feel in hand. The small army surplus pouch on the handlebars is a long time
> fave - just big enough for a small burly lock or mini-U and a couple other
> compact items. I hadn’t finished off the grips yet - wanted to ride/confirm
> my stem length first. Finished the build after dark and hadn’t noticed the
> upward tilt on my saddle while it was crooked in the stand… but this sure
> was comfortable while riding! Need to change the dyno light connectors from
> plastic plug (SP) to metal spade/socket (SON). Longer BB so I can run this
> triple as a single ring with ankle/cuff/grease guard. Wheels and tires
> aren’t the lightest, but I had the SON/Dyad front in hand so had Rich build
> up the rear on a Dyad to match. Shikoro 42mm tires feel a bit sluggish
> compared to RH - they’re the one item I’d do differently.
>
>
> Much of this build came off my circa 2012 VO Polyvalent, which is going
> into semi-retirement as garage/wall art. Main difference between the bikes
> is that the PolyV turned on a dime due to its shorter wheelbase (by roughly
> 3”) and rando front geometry. Whereas the Roaduno is more of a long, gentle
> carver. With any load, like groceries, I always felt too on top of the
> PolyV, and it wasn’t reassuring esp if using rear-loaded panniers (where
> steering got numb). The Roaduno’s front end seems better balanced, and I
> assume it’ll handle loads of rear groceries with aplomb due to Riv’s stated
> design goals. This is my first Riv, so I’m mostly only going on reading
> Grant’s words over the last two decades.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone selling recent/old BQ issues?

2024-11-24 Thread Minh

as a fan of eric's video on youtubes, may i propose a (long) series of 
video reading each issue as a retrospective on today, i would imagine there 
were some prescient topics for example the rise of 'big' tires, gravel 
racing to name a few

On Sunday, November 24, 2024 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Paul, thanks as always for your thoughtful reply, I always appreciate your 
> messages and emails.
>
> Dustin, thank you for the kind offer, PM sent! :0) 
>
> On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 8:13:26 PM UTC-5 Dustin wrote:
>
>> Uff.  Sent to early.  
>>
>> Eric:  I, too, missed out on the saddle, but happy to share custody of 
>> this collection. Reach out anytime you are headed towards Richmond and we 
>> can figure it out. 
>>
>> Paul:  Thanks for curating the collection and attempting to 
>> diplomatically relinquish it to the community!  
>>
>> Dustin in VA
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2024, at 12:50 PM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> So sorry Eric. I should have run it by you, but the whole thing began 
>> sort of organically. It's going to a fellow who bought Ian's old Atlantis a 
>> couple years ago, Dustin Donley.
>>
>> The early issues of Vintage Bicycle Quarterly are the real prize. I 
>> thought a bit before including those. But I am going through a decluttering 
>> & repurposing of my old art studio of 43 years and it seems it has spread 
>> like a virus to the bike room. (Sometime next year I will be selling my 
>> cycling book collection too.)
>>
>> This is what happens when you turn 78 and the daughter decides she does 
>> not wish to deal with it later on.. ha.
>>
>> Anyway, I will put in a good word for you in case Dustin wishes to 
>> "unload" the collection as he reads it. I will write him a note with your 
>> contact info that you desire right of first refusal if you wish me to 
>> include that on a post-it note inside the box lid. (He's buying the fancy 
>> box I used too.)
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 12:27:34 PM EST, Eric Marth <
>> eric...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> I'm adding the full run of BQs and the brown Brooks Professional saddle 
>> to my all-time Paul Germain heartbreaks. Hoping the list doesn't get any 
>> longer!
>>
>> On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 10:58:42 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>> It seems I owe apologies all around. Nathan, please forgive my 
>> highjacking your original post. 
>> Also, to others who reached out to me by PM with the wish to purchase my 
>> BQ collection, a local pickup wins out over all I am afraid, especially 
>> since I know the fellow.  
>> I am sorry for any inconvenience or disappointment I may have caused in 
>> the matter.  
>>
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:30:11 PM UTC-5 nbar...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Would love to buy some recent/old BQ issues if you have a stack lying 
>> around :)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> - Nathan
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob has done it again!

2024-11-24 Thread J-D Bamford

Re: Steelnovo…

Columbus’ tube shaping (more than just ovals) is innovative, even if that’s 
somewhat an aesthetic as much as technical motivator. Hard to know how much 
non-oval tube shaping improves characteristics versus oval/squished. 
Colnago isn’t ashamed to admit that aesthetics are an important 
differentiator for their brand. 

3D printed stainless lugs/joiners are very innovative. Getting a glimpse of 
that manufacturing process, and the grouping of 4 bikes’ worth of lugs on 
one plate, is a real treat. 3D printing has become a major topic in 
mechanical engineering curriculums… it’s the pointed tip of the innovation 
spear.

Agreed they didn’t elaborate enough on why the steel fork concept was 
deemed insufficient… but given their close collab with tubing and 3D 
printing partners, it seems fair to say that it was earnestly attempted. I 
tend to think weight might have been a driving factor… but the mechanical 
engineer in me would relish hearing more about the discovered limitations.

The best enthusiast-oriented media houses today (whether discussing cycling 
tech, mechanical wrist watches, or whatnot) have become excellent 
outsourced media houses for the brands. Interesting evolution of the roles 
of media.

On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 2:48:51 PM UTC-7 J J wrote:

> Thanks for sending, Steve. Great BikeSnob piece. 
>
> Yesterday I happened to watch GCN's new video 
>  introducing the Colnago 
> Steelnovo. Interesting video on its own terms. It's cool to see 
> manufacturing processes in action. I still don't understand why they 
> ditched the steel fork in favor of the carbon fork. They didn't explain 
> that well. 
>
> Anyway, what was funny about the video was how they framed the "return to 
> steel" bikes as some innovative, newfangled idea. 
>
> So many ironies there no pun intended. 
>
> Jim
>
> On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 1:30:43 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2024/11/21/be-steel-my-heart/ 
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Re: [RBW] Roaduno shakedown

2024-11-24 Thread Jason Fuller

I also noticed the big difference on steering when I went from my previous 
low trail bike (Soma Grand Rando) to my first Riv (Hillborne) and 'carving' 
is exactly how I perceived it too! Not as immediately responsive but I much 
prefer it overall. Takes a small adjustment period.

Bike looks great! 

On Sunday, 24 November 2024 at 17:46:44 UTC-8 isp...@gmail.com wrote:

> IIRC it’s 42x19 (gain ratio ~2.2), running 700/42mm.
> Previously on my PolyValent, I was running 42x17 (~2.5 gain ratio) with 
> 650/48.
>
> On Sunday, November 24, 2024 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Yes, a pretty and, more important, what looks like a very efficiently and 
>> comfortably rideable build. 
>>
>> What is the gearing — ie, what size ring and how many teeth on each cog?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 3:22 PM P W  wrote:
>>
>>> Love this one!
>>>
>>> Makes me want to put tanwalls on mine next…
>>>
>>> P. W.
>>> ~
>>> (917) 514-2207
>>> ~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2024, at 8:45 AM, J-D Bamford  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> Finished building the Roaduno (my first Rivendell!) and took it on a 90 
>>> minute shakedown ride in Denver yesterday. Really smooth, enjoyable ride.
>>>
>>>
>>> Long quill stem and VO Left Bank handlebars are a joy to view as well as 
>>> feel in hand. The small army surplus pouch on the handlebars is a long time 
>>> fave - just big enough for a small burly lock or mini-U and a couple other 
>>> compact items. I hadn’t finished off the grips yet - wanted to ride/confirm 
>>> my stem length first. Finished the build after dark and hadn’t noticed the 
>>> upward tilt on my saddle while it was crooked in the stand… but this sure 
>>> was comfortable while riding! Need to change the dyno light connectors from 
>>> plastic plug (SP) to metal spade/socket (SON). Longer BB so I can run this 
>>> triple as a single ring with ankle/cuff/grease guard. Wheels and tires 
>>> aren’t the lightest, but I had the SON/Dyad front in hand so had Rich build 
>>> up the rear on a Dyad to match. Shikoro 42mm tires feel a bit sluggish 
>>> compared to RH - they’re the one item I’d do differently.
>>>
>>>
>>> Much of this build came off my circa 2012 VO Polyvalent, which is going 
>>> into semi-retirement as garage/wall art. Main difference between the bikes 
>>> is that the PolyV turned on a dime due to its shorter wheelbase (by roughly 
>>> 3”) and rando front geometry. Whereas the Roaduno is more of a long, gentle 
>>> carver. With any load, like groceries, I always felt too on top of the 
>>> PolyV, and it wasn’t reassuring esp if using rear-loaded panniers (where 
>>> steering got numb). The Roaduno’s front end seems better balanced, and I 
>>> assume it’ll handle loads of rear groceries with aplomb due to Riv’s stated 
>>> design goals. This is my first Riv, so I’m mostly only going on reading 
>>> Grant’s words over the last two decades.
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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob has done it again!

2024-11-24 Thread 'Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch

Yes, doing it again is what the Snob always does. Again, and again, and 
again. He's been doing it again for decades. It's called the same old 
shtik. 

~pb

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>
>
> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2024/11/21/be-steel-my-heart/ 
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Re: [RBW] Roaduno shakedown

2024-11-24 Thread Patrick Moore

42/19 = 2.21 X 26.6 (per JimG; the numbers from that site pretty closely
match my empirical measurements) = 58.8 gear inches.

I’m familiar enough with my own drivetrains to know how a 175 mm crank
compares to a 170 with the same ring/cog X wheel diameter; the empirical
upshot is a bit less than 1 tooth less for the longer crank; ie, the
48/17X25.6" 72” gear with 170 mm cranks on my Matthews errand road bike
would be the more-or-less equivalent of a 48/16.5X26.5” gear with 175 mm
cranks.

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 6:46 PM J-D Bamford  wrote:

> IIRC it’s 42x19 (gain ratio ~2.2), running 700/42mm.

> On Sunday, November 24, 2024 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> … What is the gearing — ie, what size ring and how many teeth on each cog?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Snob has done it again!

2024-11-24 Thread Patrick Moore

But he is still funny. And to be funny after 17 years of doing the same old
thing means that he has something; that something IMO is intelligence; he’s
smart.

Long may he wave; or something like that.

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> Yes, doing it again is what the Snob always does. Again, and again, and
> again. He's been doing it again for decades. It's called the same old
> shtik.

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Re: [RBW] Roaduno shakedown

2024-11-24 Thread J-D Bamford

IIRC it’s 42x19 (gain ratio ~2.2), running 700/42mm.
Previously on my PolyValent, I was running 42x17 (~2.5 gain ratio) with 
650/48.

On Sunday, November 24, 2024 at 3:30:38 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Yes, a pretty and, more important, what looks like a very efficiently and 
> comfortably rideable build. 
>
> What is the gearing — ie, what size ring and how many teeth on each cog?
>
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 3:22 PM P W  wrote:
>
>> Love this one!
>>
>> Makes me want to put tanwalls on mine next…
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2024, at 8:45 AM, J-D Bamford  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Finished building the Roaduno (my first Rivendell!) and took it on a 90 
>> minute shakedown ride in Denver yesterday. Really smooth, enjoyable ride.
>>
>>
>> Long quill stem and VO Left Bank handlebars are a joy to view as well as 
>> feel in hand. The small army surplus pouch on the handlebars is a long time 
>> fave - just big enough for a small burly lock or mini-U and a couple other 
>> compact items. I hadn’t finished off the grips yet - wanted to ride/confirm 
>> my stem length first. Finished the build after dark and hadn’t noticed the 
>> upward tilt on my saddle while it was crooked in the stand… but this sure 
>> was comfortable while riding! Need to change the dyno light connectors from 
>> plastic plug (SP) to metal spade/socket (SON). Longer BB so I can run this 
>> triple as a single ring with ankle/cuff/grease guard. Wheels and tires 
>> aren’t the lightest, but I had the SON/Dyad front in hand so had Rich build 
>> up the rear on a Dyad to match. Shikoro 42mm tires feel a bit sluggish 
>> compared to RH - they’re the one item I’d do differently.
>>
>>
>> Much of this build came off my circa 2012 VO Polyvalent, which is going 
>> into semi-retirement as garage/wall art. Main difference between the bikes 
>> is that the PolyV turned on a dime due to its shorter wheelbase (by roughly 
>> 3”) and rando front geometry. Whereas the Roaduno is more of a long, gentle 
>> carver. With any load, like groceries, I always felt too on top of the 
>> PolyV, and it wasn’t reassuring esp if using rear-loaded panniers (where 
>> steering got numb). The Roaduno’s front end seems better balanced, and I 
>> assume it’ll handle loads of rear groceries with aplomb due to Riv’s stated 
>> design goals. This is my first Riv, so I’m mostly only going on reading 
>> Grant’s words over the last two decades.
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[RBW] Re: miesha’s then and now

2024-11-24 Thread Michael Baquerizo

if theyre the same offering from the since discontinued Riv offering ( i 
assume BL just bought up a ton knowing theyd be discontinued) then they are 
just cylindrical. the shape you're referring to went away a while ago. 

i have them on one bike and as much as i love them, for this snapshot in my 
head of what a rivendell should look like, i've since dropped this (very 
heavy) bike on both sides and the ends snapped clean off. its a bummer, and 
due to them being discontinued i'll just have to update my mental snap 
shot, to ESIs with tape.

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> Hi!
>
> Does anyone know if the “Miesha’s cork grips (normal)” sold by Blue Lug 
> now (though currently out of stock) are shaped like the Rivendell-sold 
> Miesga’s grips from, say, ten yers ago?
>
> The Miesha’s from ten-ish years ago had a slight barrel-like shape. The 
> Blue Lug version seems basically cylindrical, best I can tell from the web 
> photos.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone selling recent/old BQ issues?

2024-11-24 Thread Eric Marth

Paul, thanks as always for your thoughtful reply, I always appreciate your 
messages and emails.

Dustin, thank you for the kind offer, PM sent! :0) 

On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 8:13:26 PM UTC-5 Dustin wrote:

> Uff.  Sent to early.  
>
> Eric:  I, too, missed out on the saddle, but happy to share custody of 
> this collection. Reach out anytime you are headed towards Richmond and we 
> can figure it out. 
>
> Paul:  Thanks for curating the collection and attempting to diplomatically 
> relinquish it to the community!  
>
> Dustin in VA
>
> On Nov 23, 2024, at 12:50 PM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> So sorry Eric. I should have run it by you, but the whole thing began sort 
> of organically. It's going to a fellow who bought Ian's old Atlantis a 
> couple years ago, Dustin Donley.
>
> The early issues of Vintage Bicycle Quarterly are the real prize. I 
> thought a bit before including those. But I am going through a decluttering 
> & repurposing of my old art studio of 43 years and it seems it has spread 
> like a virus to the bike room. (Sometime next year I will be selling my 
> cycling book collection too.)
>
> This is what happens when you turn 78 and the daughter decides she does 
> not wish to deal with it later on.. ha.
>
> Anyway, I will put in a good word for you in case Dustin wishes to 
> "unload" the collection as he reads it. I will write him a note with your 
> contact info that you desire right of first refusal if you wish me to 
> include that on a post-it note inside the box lid. (He's buying the fancy 
> box I used too.)
>
> Paul
>
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 12:27:34 PM EST, Eric Marth <
> eric...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> I'm adding the full run of BQs and the brown Brooks Professional saddle to 
> my all-time Paul Germain heartbreaks. Hoping the list doesn't get any 
> longer!
>
> On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 10:58:42 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> It seems I owe apologies all around. Nathan, please forgive my highjacking 
> your original post. 
> Also, to others who reached out to me by PM with the wish to purchase my 
> BQ collection, a local pickup wins out over all I am afraid, especially 
> since I know the fellow.  
> I am sorry for any inconvenience or disappointment I may have caused in 
> the matter.  
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:30:11 PM UTC-5 nbar...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Would love to buy some recent/old BQ issues if you have a stack lying 
> around :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Nathan
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Re: [RBW] OGK grips: lessons learned - a follow-up question

2024-11-24 Thread 'Thomas Lynn Skean' via RBW Owners Bunch

Hi.Basically doing what I tried early on with soap&water&suds instead of alcohol. Syringes will deliver soap and water. Worth a 10min try if I’m ever down this path again.After that, if no good progress… destruction!!Doug, I’ll give it a shot next time! Thanks!Yours,Thomas Lynn SkeanOn Nov 24, 2024, at 11:22 PM, Doug Van Cleve wrote:Howdy folks.I read thru this whole thing, and to my surprise nobody mentioned what I would do. I looked up the grips on RBW.com, and they seem to be some kind of rubbery stuff? Anyway, every time I wanted to remove grips that wouldn’t come off just from pulling toward the end of the bar with my fingers on the front edge (which usually makes the inside diameter increase slightly), I’ve just worked a bit of dish soap under the stem side than wiggled and twisted a bit at a time until more of the grip releases. Lather, rinse, repeat until it comes off then clean everything up with water and dry. Am I missing something?Regards, DougChandler, AZOn Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 7:50 PM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:Following the OGK removal I went with leather wrapped around Newbaum's as grips for this Boscomoose..The asymmetry and irregularity are, uh, intentional. Yeah, that's it. Intentional.While it's clear I'm not ready to provide leather-grip-wrap services professionally, I'm comfortable with the aesthetics of the outcome. It feels good in the hands. I've since added a few coats of shellac to the twine discourage rapid unexpected disassembly. I've have not ridden with them yet; it may all fall apart under actual usage.If so, I'll chalk it up to experience. If not, I'll have fun using it, even more knowing that I put it together.Yours,Thomas Lynn Skeanwho is still deciding which bag should ride there: brown SaddleSack XS (shown), blue SaddleSack XS, or old school tan Baggins Keven's

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