Re: [RBW] OGK grips: lessons learned - a follow-up question

[Brian Turner]

So, what method were you using that put a scratch on your bars?

Brian
Lexington KY

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Re: [RBW] OGK grips: lessons learned - a follow-up question

['thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The scratcher was most likely the 
protectively-covered-but-apparently-not-well-enough small screwdriver I 
used to lift the edge of the grip, to enable the syringe needle to deliver 
alcohol.

The scratches themselves are more like light smooth abrasions. They have no 
readily discernable depth.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who knows this may be a duplicate of a message sent via e-mail earlier

On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 6:11:19 AM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> So, what method were you using that put a scratch on your bars?
>
> Brian
> Lexington KY
>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

['thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oh, man! Will the temptations never cease! I'm not even going to look... 
it's probably purple and includes an 8cm Nitto 280-DX stem, so far only 
rumored to exist.

But I remain steadfast: 2025 or 6 no 4

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who lives in the chicago area

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-6 benjamin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Rosco Platypus - one owner
> 60cm
> $1600
> Chicago, IL
>
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/d/chicago-rivendell-rosco-platypus/7721528541.html
>
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 9:30:54 AM UTC-6 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Sam Hillborne DTT, one owner!
>> 60cm
>> 2450
>> San Francisco, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7721166128.html
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] OGK grips: lessons learned - a follow-up question

[Brian Turner]

Ah, gotcha. Like the photo I posted shows, assuming the grip is of a soft
enough material (like an ESG or Oury grip, or maybe even natural cork) I
just stick the syringe needle straight into the grip until it stops at the
bar. Angling the syringe helps. Then, I just inject alcohol into the space
between the inside of the grip and the bar. Usually takes two injections
for each grip, and once I start wiggling the grip, it usually slides right
off.

I realize this method is rather unorthodox, but it has worked for me for
years to remove many grips without hassle. It also helps that we used to
have a diabetic cat that required injections, so that's why I happen to
have some old disposable syringes laying about. Maybe one of these days
I'll actually buy a rubber tipped nozzle for my air compressor!

Brian
Lex KY

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Re: [RBW] OGK grips: lessons learned - a follow-up question

[Johnny Alien]

Wow. Thats some really aggressive support for a compressor. Personally even 
at $70 its just not worth it for the amount of grips I would put on or off. 
Alcohol has always worked well for me with no headaches. Worse case 
scenario is I have to cut grips off (which so far I have never had to do) 
but $20 or less is still cheaper than $70. Not saying its not a great tool 
but I can totally verify that it is not the absolute necessity that was 
suggested.

On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 7:57:16 PM UTC-5 Will Boericke wrote:

> I think this is all pretty standard flat bar grip situation.  Sometimes 
> they come off easy, sometimes you cut them off.
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024, 7:54 PM John Robert Williams  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Oh dear!
>> I completely agree with other posters that the ONLY proper way to install 
>> or remove grips is with a rubber tipped blowgun attachment from a 
>> compressor. Every bike shop does it that way. I assist many other people 
>> with bicycle challenges with my blowgun gun tip. And a quick change to the 
>> Park Tool air inflator/guage. The only contact is the rubber tipped blowgun 
>> attachment placed at an angle at the inboard edge of the grip, and the 
>> compressed air from the blow gun tip. The grips FLY off with just a minor 
>> twist. The identical process is done for installation as well. It’s air or 
>> NOTHING ‼️
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 4:45 PM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners 
>> Bunch  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> Well, failure is the outcome. I scratched my bar a teensy bit. Teensy 
>>> enough that I don't care, except that removing grips should not involve 
>>> scratching the bar at all. One grip came off after moderate effort in 
>>> delivering loads of alcohol and quite a bit of effort of twisting and 
>>> tugging. And the grip suffered damage that would prevent me from using it. 
>>> On the other grip I was much more careul in getting alcohol to it, thus 
>>> there was only the lightest of bar-scratching. That one required 
>>> more-than-moderate muscle to twist and tug that grip off, ruining the grip 
>>> to help.
>>>
>>> I suspect it might've gone better had I focused more on finding a better 
>>> way to lubricate the grip. I did what was readily do-able with the 
>>> resources at hand. Which, I'm confident, would've worked reasonably well to 
>>> remove an ESI Chunky with damage to neither grip nor bar .
>>>
>>> So my take-away is: Whenever I decide to deploy ergo/knuckled OGK grips, 
>>> I'll do so assuming they are not coming off intact. They will not be the 
>>> grips I put on, say, while awaiting delivery of the grips I *really* 
>>> want.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>> who may travel a similar path with the other OGK grips Rivendell sells, 
>>> for curiosity if nothing else; they taper, so they're not *exactly* 
>>> like the Chunky
>>> On Tuesday, November 19, 2024 at 4:37:32 PM UTC-6 wboe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 WD40 is my go to.  But all the other methods work as well.  Standard 
 procedure.


 On Tuesday, November 19, 2024 at 12:02:40 PM UTC-5 
 thomasl...@comcast.net wrote:

>   Hi, all!
>
> Thanks for the stories and suggestions.
>
> I've decided to pursue a syringe idea. Believe me, if I can get any 
> alcohol under the grip at all, I will not skimp. I'm always surprised by 
> how cheap and available isopropyl alcohol is, even in small quantities. 
> Except for a few months in early 2020...
>
> It's a shame I don't have ready access to deliverable 
> compressed-enough air. Using it for this sounds like it would be fun.
>
> Anyway, I'll report on my success. If it's not too embarrassing, I may 
> even report on my failure.
>
> Interestingly, last night I located some leather bar tape in my 
> "accessories inventory" (i.e. stuff I bought speculatively over the 
> decades 
> and have not thrown away). Once I remove these OGK grips, I may not 
> replace 
> them with my unsullied pair. I may instead wrap some leather tape to form 
> grips for this particular bar. An opportunity to play with twine!
>
> Since I currently have four other bar configurations in the queue (a 
> second Tosco, a second regular Bosco, an Albatross, and an Albastache), 
> I'm 
> sure there will be an "opportunity" to use any effective 
> evaporatively-installed grip removal ability I develop.
>
> Now that I think of it, I don't know of any grips that want to be 
> installed this way that are designed for 23.8mm bars. I've never looked 
> for 
> them. Surely I'm not expected to muscle a regular ol' ESI Chunky onto the 
> Albastache? That seems like it would be pretty hard. Hmm
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
> who is indeed contemplating provisioning and deploying a 
> compressed-enough-air approach, should the syringe-approach not suffice
>
> On Monday, 

Re: [RBW] FS: 57cm canti Rivendell Romulus

[P W]

Wish this was a little bigger…Any photos tho?P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Nov 19, 2024, at 4:49 AM, Igor  wrote:I really don't want to sell it, but.. bought the frame on a whim, wanted a project..but now I'm back to "I have bikes similar enough" so this is a N+157cm, 56.5 top tube.Ultegra headsetNitto S65 seatpostBrooks Swallow saddleDia Compe 980 brakesNissen housing (purple)Nitto Technomic Delux stem (90mm)Nitto Noodle bars (44cm) - need to be wrappedDura Ace 7402 aero brake leversShimano bar end pods with Dia compe levers (friction)Shimano 105 170mm crankset XTR rapid rear derailleurSuntour front derailleurGrand Bois hubs to Grand Bois rims, 38mm Terreno Dry 38mm tiresMix of NOS, old/new on this bike. I'd prefer to keep the wheelset...but listed it here nonetheless.$1500 without wheels$2000 withShipping a bit extra. Pickup in Ann Arbor, MI, preferred..but can ship of course.



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Re: [RBW] Anyone built their VO Camargue into a riv-inspired swept back build?

[Patch T]

Unless I'm inputting the numbers incorrectly, this is not a low trail bike. 
http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php?ha=71&fo=58&bsd=559&tw=58

Swept back bars sound fun on this already relaxed, comfy bike. Rat Trap 
Pass tires would be sublime, maybe even room for fenders... Bosco's are not 
my personal jam and the stem may look funny but if it feels good, then hell 
yeah!

Patch

On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 4:53:38 PM UTC-8 trya...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am not one for specifics but I think the biggest issue with a low trail 
> bike like this would be that moving rider weight back might affect handling 
> negatively. 
>
> I have been curious about using swept back bars on my Soma Grand 
> Randonneur as well.
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:29:36 PM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I had a 130mm stem on the VO with the Oxford. The Bosco comes back 
>> even more, so it would need something even longer. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024, DavidP  wrote:
>>
>>> In the back of my head I remembered seeing a Camargue on Eric's blog and 
>>> it looks like he had Soma Oxford bars on it:
>>>
>>> https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/07/velo-orange-camargue-introduction.html
>>>
>>> He might be able to chime in with more for you.
>>>
>>> (I have a bike with Oxfords and another with Albatross and the two are 
>>> so similar as to feel virtually the same to me.)
>>>
>>> If that bike fit well with drops then you may need something like a 
>>> 120mm stem with the Bosco's. 
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:55:34 PM UTC-5 nbar...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've got the 50cm model and used to have it built as a drop bar gravel 
 build with 26x2.5 , but now looking to change it up to something more 
 relaxed and upright  thinking of going riv direction with a longer 
 stem, and a Bosco bar, but wondering if such a build will work with this 
 geo. Anyone tried something similar before? 

 Thanks!
 [image: VO1.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] OGK grips: lessons learned - a follow-up question

['thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi, Brian.

Understood. That might've worked here. The knuckled OGK has a harder, more 
plasticky layer, exposed near its boundaries, and underneath/within its 
foamier softer surface in its middle. But a medical syringe might've been 
sharp enough and tough enough to penetrate it and deliver an effective 
alcohol dose. During the time I was hopeful of getting this done 
non-destructively, I decided that using the syringe I had (certainly not 
medical; pretty large bore) actually consistuted destruction in itself. If 
you saw a medical professional coming at you with a syringe like mine it 
would trigger a fight-or-flight response.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 9:08:23 AM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ah, gotcha. Like the photo I posted shows, assuming the grip is of a soft 
> enough material (like an ESG or Oury grip, or maybe even natural cork) I 
> just stick the syringe needle straight into the grip until it stops at the 
> bar. Angling the syringe helps. Then, I just inject alcohol into the space 
> between the inside of the grip and the bar. Usually takes two injections 
> for each grip, and once I start wiggling the grip, it usually slides right 
> off.
>
> I realize this method is rather unorthodox, but it has worked for me for 
> years to remove many grips without hassle. It also helps that we used to 
> have a diabetic cat that required injections, so that's why I happen to 
> have some old disposable syringes laying about. Maybe one of these days 
> I'll actually buy a rubber tipped nozzle for my air compressor!
>
> Brian
> Lex KY
>

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[RBW] Re: Want to see my new purple Platypus?

[Patch T]

wowie!

On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 5:08:59 PM UTC-8 thalasin wrote:

> What a beautiful build! This is giving me some serious Platy envy.
>
> Congrats and enjoy this dreamy bike!
>
> Tracy
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:01:03 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Liz!!! I’m so elated for you! Oh please oh please get it put together 
>> tonight! I’ve me the guys from C&L at the Philly Bike Expo and they are 
>> gems. They really built you a beautiful Platypus and wrote an equally nice 
>> blog post about it. Love this. More!
>> L
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:44:25 AM UTC-5 meti...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Some of you know that I missed out on getting a 50cm Playpus at the time 
>>> of Rivendell’s online scramble…in which they sold out in a flash. But my 
>>> disappointment turned immediately into a fun adventure with Cycle CL out of 
>>> Montreal in Canada…I cannot recommend these folks at Cycle CL highly enough…
>>>
>>> My purple Platypus should arrive at my home today— my local bike shop 
>>> will reassemble it, and I hope to ride my purple beauty for the first time 
>>> this weekend. 
>>>
>>> For those of you who want to see what Cycle CL and I pulled 
>>> together…here’’s a link to it with descriptions  on their website. 
>>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/blogs/montages-recents/lizs-purple-platypus/#comment-24253
>>>
>>> Thanks so much to all who encouraged me! And, to Leah, our queen, thank 
>>> you for my Platy pin! It’ll be my first addition. 
>>>
>>> Liz in Cincinnati
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King R45 Hubset 32H Black Unlaced

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump and a price drop on these - $480 shipped.

On Sunday, November 17, 2024 at 9:15:20 PM UTC-6 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Wow, 329 gm for both hubs, no wonder they are expensive. 
> Mike SLO CA 
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone selling recent/old BQ issues?

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Nathan,

I have a complete set of "Vintage Bicycle Quarterly"/ "Bicycle Quarterly" 
beginning with Vol. 1, Number 1 (Summer 2002) thru No.80 (Summer 2022). I 
would only sell if I could move the entire set. Even though the early 
issues were thin , the entire group would be pretty heavy, 37 lbs. + -.
I am sure we could work out a deal on shipping. (I would need a few days to 
research that cost.)

If that interests you, PM me with your zip code and I will come up with 
both a price for the magazines and the shipping. (Maybe this could go 
"library" rate? Or, maybe UPS would be better?) 

Paul Germain
Midlothian Va.

On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 2:30:11 PM UTC-5 nbar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Would love to buy some recent/old BQ issues if you have a stack lying 
> around :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Nathan
>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Matthew Williams]

MKS Gamma Pedals . . . in green!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156533617918?
MIKASHIMA (MKS) Rivendell Pedals GAMMA special order color Olive Green
ebay.com

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Re: [RBW] ISO: 54-56 Triangle or up to 59 Clem L/56 Susie Frame

[Mike Rossi]

I had the same experience, Isaac! And you’re right about Nitto goodies. A Billie bar under $80 is a sweet deal.MikeOn Nov 21, 2024, at 1:07 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:It came with a seatpost, bb, and headset. On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 10:06:30 AM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:Oh also, did you get a seat post with the frame?On Nov 21, 2024, at 1:05 PM, Drew Fitchette  wrote:Dang, that’s amazing. Gonna order a green 54cm this evening!On Nov 21, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:Didn't pay a penny for duties. The delivery was absolutely lightning fast. Ordered on Friday, delivered to my house on Wednesday I think. A DHL driver in Portland drove it personally to my house in Ashland, Oregon. The whole thing was kind of wild. Also buying from Blue Lug gives you the opportunity to get a couple of nitto goodies or whatever at great prices without having to deal with their normally very high shipping prices.On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 9:48:19 AM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:Hey Isaak!Did you already receive yours? Curious about paying import duty and all that.- DrewOn Nov 21, 2024, at 12:46 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:Buy the Appa from Blue Lug! I just did and I'm SO happy. They are VERY low stock, I emailed them and they only had a handful of each. I got the last in my size. On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:39:45 PM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:Received some great responses here, and ultimately been debating on whether or not to buy an Appa from Blue Lug or wait for an Atlantis from the next batch if I can't find something from one of you fine folks.I thought I'd bump this one more time to see if I could shake loose any other frames people might be thinking about moving on as we head into the holidays.Thanks everyone! On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:Hey Drew, I have a NOS 59cm Orange Susie from the first batch of 2019/2020. I'll contact you off list !On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:Hey all, In search of 54-56 Atlantis, Appa, Bombadil/Hunq(why not shoot for the moon?), or 56/59 Susie/Clem Frame. Really looking for something with Canti studs that can fit 2"+ tires for more trail/mountain/bike camping riding. My wife has been stealing my Sam away for rides with her friends a little too often... so I'd like to expand the stable for our coming fall/winter season. Let me know if you've got anything, otherwise I'll wait for the Atlantis release in early 2025.- Drew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/FfELJKnx87E/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/11a807f7-af4f-4e52-9cb8-5d63d21849c4n%40googlegroups.com.

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[RBW] Re: FS: older model Paul Thumbies, Shimano 22.2mm, black

[Tyler Ryan]

Do you know if these work with older sun tour style ratchet shifters? The 
really popular silver ones with black paddles.

Tyler

On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 2:57:15 PM UTC-8 thomasl...@comcast.net 
wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> Look ma! No hinges!
>
> [image: Untitled.jpg]
> [image: Untitled 2.jpg]
>
> Just to date them: I think hinges appeared on Paul's Thumbies not long 
> after I bought these. Early teens?
>
> They've been used lightly, if ever. I'm their only owner. I just can't 
> remember ever cabling them up or putting shifters on them or putting them 
> on a bar at all. If I did, I undid it all years ago.
>
> $75 shipped to any of the 48 contiguous states. Others I'll need to 
> research but am happy to do so.
>
> Reply to Author if interested.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Free: Riv Posters

[Don Don]

i'm too late :/

If there are others letting go of posters (in similar condition), i'd love 
to buy them from you!

On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 7:53:22 PM UTC-5 Jenny wrote:

> Posters have been claimed!
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 8:29:00 PM UTC+1 Jenny wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have four Rivendell posters (two Riv Bike Book and Hatchet posters).  
>> They are free to a good home to one person (I am not shipping posters 
>> individually).   You just have to help with shipping cost via USPS.  
>>
>> Jenny
>>
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wire Aesthetics

[Matthew Williams]

Ha! There’s no magic, here’s the wire route:

1: Wire goes in at the fork dropout, comes out at the fork crown
2: Wire runs along the underside of the downtube
3: Wire goes into the hole under the bottom bracket, runs inside the NDS chain 
stay
4: Wire comes out at the rear dropout

My bike doesn’t have a hole where the downtube meets the neck, so I ran the 
wire under the downtube where I wouldn’t see it.


> On Nov 21, 2024, at 8:01 PM, J  wrote:
> 
> No one ever shows how they get the wires from the fork/headlight into the 
> downtube. Is this like a magicians code of never giving up the the illusion 
> kinda thing? 
> 
> On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 2:03:37 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>> I fished my dynamo wires inside the fork and inside the NDS chainstay.
>> 
>> Here’s how I did it:
>> 
>> 
>> Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?
>> groups.google.com
>>  
>> Dynamo
>>  Wiring inside the Fork and Frame? 
>> 
>> groups.google.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2024, at 10:21 AM, NYCbikeguy > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> I've had similar issues where the wires ruin the look of the bike. I would 
>>> suggest that you find speaker cable wire that either matches the color of 
>>> your frame/cable housing and either crimp or solder the terminals. It's a 
>>> lot of work... but hey, it's a cheap alternative! 
>>> 
>>> Also, pics would help!
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> IY
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-5 Jkarlin wrote:
 After putting together my first dynamo system (front and rear lights on a 
 Clem L), and focusing solely on getting it to function, I took a step back 
 and the rear wire wasn't exactly appealing to look at. Getting the wire to 
 hug the frame and then the rear rack (Nitto 32R) nicely wasn't immediately 
 intuitive to me. Do y'all have any thought or tips?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie/Wolbis first rides

[Jason Fuller]

I got out on my favourite local loop this past weekend on the Susie, a 50km 
gravel & light singletrack loop in the Seymour valley.  I wrote it up on my 
website mostly to convey the photos in full resolution that were popular in 
the Fall Riding pics thread.  The photos still do little justice for how 
amazing it is to be in this forest during late November drizzle, easily my 
favourite time of year to be out there despite the cold and wet. 

This was the first bigger ride on the bike, as I've mostly been commuting 
and barely topped 20km per ride prior to this aboard it. 

https://www.jasonmytail.com/2024-11-17-susie-lscr-loop/


On Tuesday, 29 October 2024 at 20:29:23 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Ed - the tires are Rene Herse Umtanum 650x55, wrapped in Simworks Flat 65 
> fenders. It's a good combination, the Susie has plenty of extra clearance 
> but this maxes out what I can fit under V-brakes.  Without fenders I'd be 
> comfortable with a 2.5 to 2.6 with V-brakes. The Motolites are nice to set 
> up, you can just install the pads to be parallel the rim, and then use the 
> 'collar' to adjust up-down as well as fine tune the toe-in rather than try 
> to set all these at the same time using the cup and cone washers. I 
> appreciated that the Susie's studs were spaced appropriately for the 
> Cliffhanger rims as well 
>
> Brendon - I'll probably bring the bars down a bit, but yes since I'm on 
> the 50 despite being able to fit a 53 easily I've got a bit less stack 
> which is good!  I can bring them down to basically level with the saddle if 
> I want to.  
>
> Richard (and also Brendon) - I can definitely see moving away from the 
> Ortho bar for singletrack.  I have a Stooge for trail riding as well as the 
> Crust Wombat, so my off-road needs are fully met between those two and I 
> love them both. It begs the question, isn't the Susie more bike than I need 
> if my purpose for it is commuting, cruising around town, and just a bit of 
> gravel and trail riding?  So far I'm really enjoying it for these purposes, 
> but it'll be interesting to go back and forth with the Bombadil and 
> compare. Bombadil is obviously stiffer and more compact, both super 
> capable. 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday 28 October 2024 at 18:23:27 UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A little bit of apples/oranges perhaps as my bike is a Gus. But I had a 
>> similar experience with Bosco on it. I made some calculations & took a 
>> chance on an Albacore bar. Coupled with a 35mm stem it has transformed the 
>> Gus into a singletrack joy if not a beast.:) The Bosco was pretty great 
>> however just cruising.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2024, at 9:01 PM, brendonoid  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> This Crust Vid  was a 
>> huge inspiration for me to pull the trigger on getting a Susie in the 
>> second batch, the Ortho-Susie combo just seemed so right.
>> In the end I didn't enjoy the Ortho on my XL Susie because the stack is 
>> just so high I couldn't get the reach where I wanted without it all feeling 
>> just too upright. I ride my Susie on some pretty serious single track 
>> adventures so the flex with the quill stem  was more sketch, than pleasant, 
>> also.
>> Looks like it works pretty spot on in your size though Jason!
>> Bloody nice.
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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Wire Aesthetics

[Rory Woods]

Hi Wyatt,

This looks great and I've been curious about this method since seeing Anton 
Stutter use it.

Did your Thomson post have a hole in the top or did you have to drill one?

Thanks!
Rory

On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 12:15:32 PM UTC-8 Wyatt wrote:

> [image: dynamo rear light.jpg]
> Here's a rear dynamo routing method that's worked for me. Underside of 
> downtube, up through BB (or above BB if you have dropper style routing on 
> your frame), through the seat post, and mounted on saddle rails.
>
> A couple small parts that keep this mounting style tidy:
> https://analogcycles.com/products/blue-lug-koma-under-saddle-mount
> https://analogcycles.com/products/p-clamps?variant=44022145745128
>
> That a B&M micro taillight, btw.
> On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 1:12:58 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I only have the annoying jerk thoughts:  
>>
>> A dynamo tail-light is super cool to have, and worth the money to pay 
>> somebody else to do the internal routing for it.  
>> For any bike that I don't want to spend the money on paying somebody else 
>> to deal with the internal routing, battery tail-lights on the bike are 
>> plenty.  
>> My "winter helmet" has a tail light on it, which is a much better place 
>> for a tail light anyway (because it's higher up).  
>> Reflective conspicuity is IMO more effective as a traffic safety measure 
>> than any tail light, again IMO.  
>>
>> All that said, I mega-approve of Matthew fishing a tail-light wire into 
>> the extra hole of the  BB cable guide.  That's swank.  I worry the edge of 
>> that hooded dropout will bite through the wire someday, but he'll figure 
>> that out when it happens.  
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 10:05:19 AM UTC-8 Jkarlin wrote:
>>
>>> After putting together my first dynamo system (front and rear lights on 
>>> a Clem L), and focusing solely on getting it to function, I took a step 
>>> back and the rear wire wasn't exactly appealing to look at. Getting the 
>>> wire to hug the frame and then the rear rack (Nitto 32R) nicely wasn't 
>>> immediately intuitive to me. Do y'all have any thought or tips?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wire Aesthetics

[J]

No one ever shows how they get the wires from the fork/headlight into the 
downtube. Is this like a magicians code of never giving up the the illusion 
kinda thing? 

On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 2:03:37 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> I fished my dynamo wires inside the fork and inside the NDS chainstay.
>
> Here’s how I did it:
>
> [image: IMG_5038.jpg]
>
> Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame? 
> 
> groups.google.com 
> 
> 
>
> [image: IMG_3164.jpg][image: IMG_3158.jpg][image: IMG_3162.jpg]
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2024, at 10:21 AM, NYCbikeguy  wrote:
>
> I've had similar issues where the wires ruin the look of the bike. I would 
> suggest that you find speaker cable wire that either matches the color of 
> your frame/cable housing and either crimp or solder the terminals. It's a 
> lot of work... but hey, it's a cheap alternative! 
>
> Also, pics would help!
>
> Best,
> IY
>
> On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-5 Jkarlin wrote:
>
>> After putting together my first dynamo system (front and rear lights on a 
>> Clem L), and focusing solely on getting it to function, I took a step back 
>> and the rear wire wasn't exactly appealing to look at. Getting the wire to 
>> hug the frame and then the rear rack (Nitto 32R) nicely wasn't immediately 
>> intuitive to me. Do y'all have any thought or tips?
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Platypus Frameset, 55cm, “Lime Olive”

[Nathan F]

Hi all, thank you for the overwhelming amount of interest in this frame! If 
I did not respond to you individually, my apologies--I received 20+ emails 
as well as some Instagram messages, which I was not expecting. 

The Platypus has been sold and is now on its way to its new owner! 
On Thursday, 14 November 2024 at 17:51:04 UTC-6 Nathan F wrote:

> This has been sitting in my closet for a year and is still available, lets 
> say $1100 shipped ($1050 for local pickup).
>
> I'm also extremely interested in green or orange Quickbeam, if someone 
> fancies a trade!
>
> On Sunday, 12 November 2023 at 08:14:05 UTC-6 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi, is this frame still available?
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:48:50 PM UTC-7 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> Bumping this down to $1150 shipped ($1100 for local pickup).
>>>
>>> On Monday, 16 October 2023 at 16:47:50 UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ve decided to sell my 55cm Platypus from the original run in the “Lime 
>>> Olive” color.
>>>
>>> There are maybe 600 miles or so on the frame. I’m only selling it 
>>> because I don’t have anywhere to store it after a recent move. Bummer! 
>>> Here's 
>>> how I built it if you're looking for some inspiration 
>>> .
>>>
>>> It’s in overall great shape, with some very minor cable run on the NDS 
>>> headtube, and some minor marks from a bike rack on the DS seat-stay and 
>>> mid-stay. No dents or anything major. As I exclusively ran it singlespeed, 
>>> the chain stay and hanger are in perfect shape, though the inside of the 
>>> dropouts are a little marked up from fiddling with the ENO hub.
>>>
>>> BB/seatpost/headset are included, as are “The Platypus Care Guide” and 
>>> the accompanying documentary DVD Riv gave away. I think I even have the 
>>> original paint covers for the canti-studs, but will need to look around for 
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/9AD7Twu 
>>>
>>> I am asking $1250 net to me shipped from Austin, TX (or free local 
>>> delivery!). 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Want to see my new purple Platypus?

[RichS]

Liz, that's a thoughtful and stunningly beautiful build. Congratulations! 
You'll get compliments every time you ride.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 12:00:47 PM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:

> wowie!
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 5:08:59 PM UTC-8 thalasin wrote:
>
>> What a beautiful build! This is giving me some serious Platy envy.
>>
>> Congrats and enjoy this dreamy bike!
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:01:03 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Liz!!! I’m so elated for you! Oh please oh please get it put together 
>>> tonight! I’ve me the guys from C&L at the Philly Bike Expo and they are 
>>> gems. They really built you a beautiful Platypus and wrote an equally nice 
>>> blog post about it. Love this. More!
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:44:25 AM UTC-5 meti...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Some of you know that I missed out on getting a 50cm Playpus at the 
 time of Rivendell’s online scramble…in which they sold out in a flash. But 
 my disappointment turned immediately into a fun adventure with Cycle CL 
 out 
 of Montreal in Canada…I cannot recommend these folks at Cycle CL highly 
 enough…

 My purple Platypus should arrive at my home today— my local bike shop 
 will reassemble it, and I hope to ride my purple beauty for the first time 
 this weekend. 

 For those of you who want to see what Cycle CL and I pulled 
 together…here’’s a link to it with descriptions  on their website. 
 https://www.clcycle.ca/en/blogs/montages-recents/lizs-purple-platypus/#comment-24253

 Thanks so much to all who encouraged me! And, to Leah, our queen, thank 
 you for my Platy pin! It’ll be my first addition. 

 Liz in Cincinnati

>>>

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Re: [RBW] ISO: 54-56 Triangle or up to 59 Clem L/56 Susie Frame

[Drew Fitchette]

Oh also, did you get a seat post with the frame?

> On Nov 21, 2024, at 1:05 PM, Drew Fitchette  wrote:
> 
> Dang, that’s amazing. 
> 
> Gonna order a green 54cm this evening!
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:
>> 
>> Didn't pay a penny for duties. The delivery was absolutely lightning fast. 
>> Ordered on Friday, delivered to my house on Wednesday I think. A DHL driver 
>> in Portland drove it personally to my house in Ashland, Oregon. The whole 
>> thing was kind of wild. Also buying from Blue Lug gives you the opportunity 
>> to get a couple of nitto goodies or whatever at great prices without having 
>> to deal with their normally very high shipping prices.
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 9:48:19 AM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hey Isaak!
>>> 
>>> Did you already receive yours? Curious about paying import duty and all 
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> - Drew
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:46 PM, Isaak Oliansky > 
 wrote:
 
>>> 
 Buy the Appa from Blue Lug! I just did and I'm SO happy. They are VERY low 
 stock, I emailed them and they only had a handful of each. I got the last 
 in my size. 
 
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:39:45 PM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
> Received some great responses here, and ultimately been debating on 
> whether or not to buy an Appa from Blue Lug or wait for an Atlantis from 
> the next batch if I can't find something from one of you fine folks.
> 
> I thought I'd bump this one more time to see if I could shake loose any 
> other frames people might be thinking about moving on as we head into the 
> holidays.
> 
> Thanks everyone! 
> 
> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>> Hey Drew, I have a NOS 59cm Orange Susie from the first batch of 
>> 2019/2020. I'll contact you off list !
>> 
>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com <> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hey all, 
>>> 
>>> In search of 54-56 Atlantis, Appa, Bombadil/Hunq(why not shoot for the 
>>> moon?), or 56/59 Susie/Clem Frame. Really looking for something with 
>>> Canti studs that can fit 2"+ tires for more trail/mountain/bike camping 
>>> riding. 
>>> 
>>> My wife has been stealing my Sam away for rides with her friends a 
>>> little too often... so I'd like to expand the stable for our coming 
>>> fall/winter season. 
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you've got anything, otherwise I'll wait for the 
>>> Atlantis release in early 2025.
>>> 
>>> - Drew 
>>> 
>>> 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: ISO: 54-56 Triangle or up to 59 Clem L/56 Susie Frame

[Isaak Oliansky]

Buy the Appa from Blue Lug! I just did and I'm SO happy. They are VERY low 
stock, I emailed them and they only had a handful of each. I got the last 
in my size. 

On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:39:45 PM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Received some great responses here, and ultimately been debating on 
> whether or not to buy an Appa from Blue Lug or wait for an Atlantis from 
> the next batch if I can't find something from one of you fine folks.
>
> I thought I'd bump this one more time to see if I could shake loose any 
> other frames people might be thinking about moving on as we head into the 
> holidays.
>
> Thanks everyone! 
>
> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> Hey Drew, I have a NOS 59cm Orange Susie from the first batch of 
>> 2019/2020. I'll contact you off list !
>>
>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, 
>>>
>>> In search of 54-56 Atlantis, Appa, Bombadil/Hunq(why not shoot for the 
>>> moon?), or 56/59 Susie/Clem Frame. Really looking for something with Canti 
>>> studs that can fit 2"+ tires for more trail/mountain/bike camping riding. 
>>>
>>> My wife has been stealing my Sam away for rides with her friends a 
>>> little too often... so I'd like to expand the stable for our coming 
>>> fall/winter season. 
>>>
>>> Let me know if you've got anything, otherwise I'll wait for the Atlantis 
>>> release in early 2025.
>>>
>>> - Drew 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] ISO: 54-56 Triangle or up to 59 Clem L/56 Susie Frame

[Isaak Oliansky]

Didn't pay a penny for duties. The delivery was absolutely lightning fast. 
Ordered on Friday, delivered to my house on Wednesday I think. A DHL driver 
in Portland drove it personally to my house in Ashland, Oregon. The whole 
thing was kind of wild. Also buying from Blue Lug gives you the opportunity 
to get a couple of nitto goodies or whatever at great prices without having 
to deal with their normally very high shipping prices.

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wrote:

> Hey Isaak!
>
> Did you already receive yours? Curious about paying import duty and all 
> that.
>
> - Drew
>
> On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:46 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:
>
> Buy the Appa from Blue Lug! I just did and I'm SO happy. They are VERY low 
> stock, I emailed them and they only had a handful of each. I got the last 
> in my size. 
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:39:45 PM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Received some great responses here, and ultimately been debating on 
>> whether or not to buy an Appa from Blue Lug or wait for an Atlantis from 
>> the next batch if I can't find something from one of you fine folks.
>>
>> I thought I'd bump this one more time to see if I could shake loose any 
>> other frames people might be thinking about moving on as we head into the 
>> holidays.
>>
>> Thanks everyone! 
>>
>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Drew, I have a NOS 59cm Orange Susie from the first batch of 
>>> 2019/2020. I'll contact you off list !
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey all, 

 In search of 54-56 Atlantis, Appa, Bombadil/Hunq(why not shoot for the 
 moon?), or 56/59 Susie/Clem Frame. Really looking for something with Canti 
 studs that can fit 2"+ tires for more trail/mountain/bike camping riding. 

 My wife has been stealing my Sam away for rides with her friends a 
 little too often... so I'd like to expand the stable for our coming 
 fall/winter season. 

 Let me know if you've got anything, otherwise I'll wait for the 
 Atlantis release in early 2025.

 - Drew 



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Re: [RBW] ISO: 54-56 Triangle or up to 59 Clem L/56 Susie Frame

[Drew Fitchette]

Dang, that’s amazing. 

Gonna order a green 54cm this evening!

> On Nov 21, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:
> 
> Didn't pay a penny for duties. The delivery was absolutely lightning fast. 
> Ordered on Friday, delivered to my house on Wednesday I think. A DHL driver 
> in Portland drove it personally to my house in Ashland, Oregon. The whole 
> thing was kind of wild. Also buying from Blue Lug gives you the opportunity 
> to get a couple of nitto goodies or whatever at great prices without having 
> to deal with their normally very high shipping prices.
> 
> On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 9:48:19 AM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hey Isaak!
>> 
>> Did you already receive yours? Curious about paying import duty and all that.
>> 
>> - Drew
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:46 PM, Isaak Oliansky > wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> Buy the Appa from Blue Lug! I just did and I'm SO happy. They are VERY low 
>>> stock, I emailed them and they only had a handful of each. I got the last 
>>> in my size. 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:39:45 PM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>>  wrote:
 Received some great responses here, and ultimately been debating on 
 whether or not to buy an Appa from Blue Lug or wait for an Atlantis from 
 the next batch if I can't find something from one of you fine folks.
 
 I thought I'd bump this one more time to see if I could shake loose any 
 other frames people might be thinking about moving on as we head into the 
 holidays.
 
 Thanks everyone! 
 
 On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
> Hey Drew, I have a NOS 59cm Orange Susie from the first batch of 
> 2019/2020. I'll contact you off list !
> 
> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com <> 
> wrote:
>> Hey all, 
>> 
>> In search of 54-56 Atlantis, Appa, Bombadil/Hunq(why not shoot for the 
>> moon?), or 56/59 Susie/Clem Frame. Really looking for something with 
>> Canti studs that can fit 2"+ tires for more trail/mountain/bike camping 
>> riding. 
>> 
>> My wife has been stealing my Sam away for rides with her friends a 
>> little too often... so I'd like to expand the stable for our coming 
>> fall/winter season. 
>> 
>> Let me know if you've got anything, otherwise I'll wait for the Atlantis 
>> release in early 2025.
>> 
>> - Drew 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[RBW] Bike Snob has done it again!

[Steve]

https://bikesnobnyc.com/2024/11/21/be-steel-my-heart/ 

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Kim H.]

@Thomas,

You are not alone.

In my case I wish I could have been able to afford that Rivendell 52cm blue
Clem complete bicycle out of southern California as a spare bicycle to my
own.

Alas, I took a deep breath and moved on.

Kim Hetzel.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024, 7:07 AM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:

> Oh, man! Will the temptations never cease! I'm not even going to look...
> it's probably purple and includes an 8cm Nitto 280-DX stem, so far only
> rumored to exist.
>
> But I remain steadfast: 2025 or 6 no 4
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
> who lives in the chicago area
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-6 benjamin...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Rosco Platypus - one owner
>> 60cm
>> $1600
>> Chicago, IL
>>
>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/d/chicago-rivendell-rosco-platypus/7721528541.html
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 9:30:54 AM UTC-6 Matthew Williams
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sam Hillborne DTT, one owner!
>>> 60cm
>>> 2450
>>> San Francisco, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7721166128.html
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[RBW] FS: Pedals. Lots of Them

[Ted Durant]

Hi gang -

Now that I've determined that Clem Smith pedals are what all of my bikes 
wanted, I have a rather large collection of pedals that are otherwise going 
to collect dust. So, I'm planning to take them to the Milwaukee Bicycle 
Collective on Saturday, but before I do that I want to give my pals here a 
first shot. Almost all of them are in used condition, some very used, 
others "pretty" used. Unless otherwise noted. It's way too much to 
photograph or even list individually. If there's something that you think 
you want, send me a private message and we'll talk. I'm planning to 
otherwise give it all away (to a good cause, if they want them), so I'm not 
looking to make any money here.

Ok, here's what we have:

   1. a giant collection of Shimano SPD pedals. 
   1. One MTB set (Deore level, I'd guess),
  2. Four road sets (3 Ultegra level and 1 Dura Ace level .. reminder, 
  SPD, not SPD-R)
  3. Countless dual-sided (cage one side, binding other side)
   2. an almost as large collection of Egg Beaters
   1. basic ones ranging from lowest level to fairly spiffy (but no Ti - 
  those are still on my Riv Road)
  2. Two pairs of Egg-Beaters road pedals  best used with their 
  specific cleat holders ... if you know, you know
   3. One pair of well used Campy Daytona pedals with cleats
   4. One pair of not-much-used MKS Mapstage pedals. By far and away the 
   most secure binding system other than the one-off customs that Pino made 
   for Grant. Real knee-wreckers if you crash. Another one of those if you 
   know, you know...
   5. One pair of pretty-much-as-new VO Urban Platform pedals. I haven't 
   tried these with my Lems, yet, so I might end up keeping them. I tried them 
   with other shoes and without the half-clips didn't find enough traction on 
   them.
   6. One pair of MKS touring Lite
   7. One pair of MKS Sylvan touring 

(Saved the best for last to reward those who read all the way down.)

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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[RBW] Re: Bike Snob has done it again!

[J J]

Thanks for sending, Steve. Great BikeSnob piece. 

Yesterday I happened to watch GCN's new video 
 introducing the Colnago 
Steelnovo. Interesting video on its own terms. It's cool to see 
manufacturing processes in action. I still don't understand why they 
ditched the steel fork in favor of the carbon fork. They didn't explain 
that well. 

Anyway, what was funny about the video was how they framed the "return to 
steel" bikes as some innovative, newfangled idea. 

So many ironies there no pun intended. 

Jim

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Re: [RBW] OGK grips: lessons learned - a follow-up question

[Bill Lindsay]

Maybe it partially has to do with California.  Anything that is cheaper 
than a tank of gas is pretty affordable, in my book.  Any tool that has 
lots of uses and gets used dozens of times per year is a good tool 
investment, in my book.  If the only thing you can possibly imagine using 
an air compressor for is to install and remove grips, and if you 
practically never install or remove grips, then I can see that $70 is big 
price tag.  

The other way to go is use $30-$40 grips that clamp on.  The "tool" to 
install and remove those is a $1 allen key that you maybe already have!  :)

BL in EC

On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 5:28:19 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Wow. Thats some really aggressive support for a compressor. Personally 
> even at $70 its just not worth it for the amount of grips I would put on or 
> off. Alcohol has always worked well for me with no headaches. Worse case 
> scenario is I have to cut grips off (which so far I have never had to do) 
> but $20 or less is still cheaper than $70. Not saying its not a great tool 
> but I can totally verify that it is not the absolute necessity that was 
> suggested.
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 7:57:16 PM UTC-5 Will Boericke wrote:
>
>> I think this is all pretty standard flat bar grip situation.  Sometimes 
>> they come off easy, sometimes you cut them off.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024, 7:54 PM John Robert Williams <
>> johnrober...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Oh dear!
>>> I completely agree with other posters that the ONLY proper way to 
>>> install or remove grips is with a rubber tipped blowgun attachment from a 
>>> compressor. Every bike shop does it that way. I assist many other people 
>>> with bicycle challenges with my blowgun gun tip. And a quick change to the 
>>> Park Tool air inflator/guage. The only contact is the rubber tipped blowgun 
>>> attachment placed at an angle at the inboard edge of the grip, and the 
>>> compressed air from the blow gun tip. The grips FLY off with just a minor 
>>> twist. The identical process is done for installation as well. It’s air or 
>>> NOTHING ‼️
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 4:45 PM 'thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners 
>>> Bunch  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, all.

 Well, failure is the outcome. I scratched my bar a teensy bit. Teensy 
 enough that I don't care, except that removing grips should not involve 
 scratching the bar at all. One grip came off after moderate effort in 
 delivering loads of alcohol and quite a bit of effort of twisting and 
 tugging. And the grip suffered damage that would prevent me from using it. 
 On the other grip I was much more careul in getting alcohol to it, thus 
 there was only the lightest of bar-scratching. That one required 
 more-than-moderate muscle to twist and tug that grip off, ruining the grip 
 to help.

 I suspect it might've gone better had I focused more on finding a 
 better way to lubricate the grip. I did what was readily do-able with the 
 resources at hand. Which, I'm confident, would've worked reasonably well 
 to 
 remove an ESI Chunky with damage to neither grip nor bar .

 So my take-away is: Whenever I decide to deploy ergo/knuckled OGK 
 grips, I'll do so assuming they are not coming off intact. They will not 
 be 
 the grips I put on, say, while awaiting delivery of the grips I 
 *really* want.

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean
 who may travel a similar path with the other OGK grips Rivendell sells, 
 for curiosity if nothing else; they taper, so they're not *exactly* 
 like the Chunky
 On Tuesday, November 19, 2024 at 4:37:32 PM UTC-6 wboe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> WD40 is my go to.  But all the other methods work as well.  Standard 
> procedure.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 19, 2024 at 12:02:40 PM UTC-5 
> thomasl...@comcast.net wrote:
>
>>   Hi, all!
>>
>> Thanks for the stories and suggestions.
>>
>> I've decided to pursue a syringe idea. Believe me, if I can get any 
>> alcohol under the grip at all, I will not skimp. I'm always surprised by 
>> how cheap and available isopropyl alcohol is, even in small quantities. 
>> Except for a few months in early 2020...
>>
>> It's a shame I don't have ready access to deliverable 
>> compressed-enough air. Using it for this sounds like it would be fun.
>>
>> Anyway, I'll report on my success. If it's not too embarrassing, I 
>> may even report on my failure.
>>
>> Interestingly, last night I located some leather bar tape in my 
>> "accessories inventory" (i.e. stuff I bought speculatively over the 
>> decades 
>> and have not thrown away). Once I remove these OGK grips, I may not 
>> replace 
>> them with my unsullied pair. I may instead wrap some leather tape to 
>> form 
>> grips for this particular bar. An opportunity to play with twine!
>>>

[RBW] Re: FS: older model Paul Thumbies, Shimano 22.2mm, black

['thomasl...@comcast.net' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've just realized, given how the pictures are arranged, that one might 
conclude that I'm selling four Thumbies.

I am not.

This thread is about a single pair of Thumbies.

Sorry for any raised hopes!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
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wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> Look ma! No hinges!
>
> [image: Untitled.jpg]
> [image: Untitled 2.jpg]
>
> Just to date them: I think hinges appeared on Paul's Thumbies not long 
> after I bought these. Early teens?
>
> They've been used lightly, if ever. I'm their only owner. I just can't 
> remember ever cabling them up or putting shifters on them or putting them 
> on a bar at all. If I did, I undid it all years ago.
>
> $75 shipped to any of the 48 contiguous states. Others I'll need to 
> research but am happy to do so.
>
> Reply to Author if interested.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
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Re: [RBW] Bike Snob has done it again!

[Patrick Moore]

I particularly like the “Irony Drive Multi-Single Gear System” (IDMSGS) for
optimized power transfer, minimized friction losses, and intuitive gear
choice.

I think that really over-the-top marketing bullshit started in the cycling
industry in the late ‘80s — back in the “10 speed” days the marketing
depended on heirloom Yurapeen cachet, and the early mountain bikes were so
new that anything was “innovative” and marketable. Well, there was Hetchins
with the curvey stays and Bates with the Flying Gate and those flamboyant
chain designs, but it was all much simpler and psychologically much cruder
back then.

[Aside: My nastiest resume clients have been Chief Marketing Officers;
perhaps there’s a connection.]

“Psychologically much cruder.” But I wonder. “Stealth Carbon” and F2D and
UDH hangers — all that is pretty crudely obvious as marketing, too — is it
more sophisticated or just current?  I remember that wonderful, meaningless
“Somewhere West of Laramie” ad for the Jordan Playbor motorcar in 1023.

I wish someone would take a generic Chinese-made carbon fiber frame, think
up performance acronyms for basic functional parts, and offer it for 18,000
Euros to see how well it sold based on market-speak and price alone.

Patrick Moore, who ride his wonderful Matthews with “RBFD-specific” design
and “LCIF” drivetrain technology. (That’s “road bike for dirt" — I know
that annoys at least one person; and “lotsa cogs in friction.”)

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Re: [RBW] ISO: 54-56 Triangle or up to 59 Clem L/56 Susie Frame

[Isaak Oliansky]

It came with a seatpost, bb, and headset. 

On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 10:06:30 AM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Oh also, did you get a seat post with the frame?
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2024, at 1:05 PM, Drew Fitchette  wrote:
>
> Dang, that’s amazing. 
>
> Gonna order a green 54cm this evening!
>
> On Nov 21, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:
>
> Didn't pay a penny for duties. The delivery was absolutely lightning fast. 
> Ordered on Friday, delivered to my house on Wednesday I think. A DHL driver 
> in Portland drove it personally to my house in Ashland, Oregon. The whole 
> thing was kind of wild. Also buying from Blue Lug gives you the opportunity 
> to get a couple of nitto goodies or whatever at great prices without having 
> to deal with their normally very high shipping prices.
>
> On Thursday, November 21, 2024 at 9:48:19 AM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Isaak!
>>
>> Did you already receive yours? Curious about paying import duty and all 
>> that.
>>
>> - Drew
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:46 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:
>>
>> Buy the Appa from Blue Lug! I just did and I'm SO happy. They are VERY 
>> low stock, I emailed them and they only had a handful of each. I got the 
>> last in my size. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:39:45 PM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Received some great responses here, and ultimately been debating on 
>>> whether or not to buy an Appa from Blue Lug or wait for an Atlantis from 
>>> the next batch if I can't find something from one of you fine folks.
>>>
>>> I thought I'd bump this one more time to see if I could shake loose any 
>>> other frames people might be thinking about moving on as we head into the 
>>> holidays.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone! 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
 Hey Drew, I have a NOS 59cm Orange Susie from the first batch of 
 2019/2020. I'll contact you off list !

 On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey all, 
>
> In search of 54-56 Atlantis, Appa, Bombadil/Hunq(why not shoot for the 
> moon?), or 56/59 Susie/Clem Frame. Really looking for something with 
> Canti 
> studs that can fit 2"+ tires for more trail/mountain/bike camping riding. 
>
> My wife has been stealing my Sam away for rides with her friends a 
> little too often... so I'd like to expand the stable for our coming 
> fall/winter season. 
>
> Let me know if you've got anything, otherwise I'll wait for the 
> Atlantis release in early 2025.
>
> - Drew 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] ISO: 54-56 Triangle or up to 59 Clem L/56 Susie Frame

[Drew Fitchette]

Hey Isaak!

Did you already receive yours? Curious about paying import duty and all that.

- Drew

> On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:46 PM, Isaak Oliansky  wrote:
> 
> Buy the Appa from Blue Lug! I just did and I'm SO happy. They are VERY low 
> stock, I emailed them and they only had a handful of each. I got the last in 
> my size. 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 6:39:45 PM UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
>> Received some great responses here, and ultimately been debating on whether 
>> or not to buy an Appa from Blue Lug or wait for an Atlantis from the next 
>> batch if I can't find something from one of you fine folks.
>> 
>> I thought I'd bump this one more time to see if I could shake loose any 
>> other frames people might be thinking about moving on as we head into the 
>> holidays.
>> 
>> Thanks everyone! 
>> 
>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>> Hey Drew, I have a NOS 59cm Orange Susie from the first batch of 2019/2020. 
>>> I'll contact you off list !
>>> 
>>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com <> 
>>> wrote:
 Hey all, 
 
 In search of 54-56 Atlantis, Appa, Bombadil/Hunq(why not shoot for the 
 moon?), or 56/59 Susie/Clem Frame. Really looking for something with Canti 
 studs that can fit 2"+ tires for more trail/mountain/bike camping riding. 
 
 My wife has been stealing my Sam away for rides with her friends a little 
 too often... so I'd like to expand the stable for our coming fall/winter 
 season. 
 
 Let me know if you've got anything, otherwise I'll wait for the Atlantis 
 release in early 2025.
 
 - Drew 
 
 
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