[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto face plater stem, Tektro R559 calipers, Fab's Abs X11 bag

[scott minor]

all items claimed..  

thank you!
On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 7:41:49 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> PM'd on the Fabulous Abs :)
>
> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 1:58:37 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> PM'd on the Tektro R559's
>>
>> On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 11:35:28 AM UTC-4 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> A few items for sale in nice shape..
>>>
>>> -Nitto tig'd face plater stem 60mm / 31.8 bar clamp - no scratches   
>>> $100 shipped
>>>
>>> -IRD Heron tig'd face plater stem 100mm / 31.8 bar clamp - a few 
>>> insertion marks - $70 shipped
>>>
>>> -Tektro R559 brake set (recessed allen) one bike's worth. $60 shipped
>>>
>>> -Ron's Fab's Abs X11 tan handlebar bag - very light!  barely used $85 
>>> shipped
>>>
>>> Located in VA
>>>
>>> photos here..
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/147564748@N06/upJ2287115
>>>
>>> thanks!  -Scott 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois or Andiamos under street shorts

[J S]

Patrick, I should have mentioned that I’ve used Andiamos padded liners for 
years. I liked the old ones better but the new ones are cheap and the 
company gives good deals, or car least they did with some free liners when 
you reach a certain amount purchased. They do run large, I take a small in 
them. I should be a medium so you can base it on that. The pad itself is 
minimal at best. Good luck. 

On Saturday, July 8, 2023 at 10:02:59 AM UTC-4 J S wrote:

> Patrick, I’ve never worn anything more comfortable than Kucharik wool 
> shorts. I had my time with synthetic skin tight shorts and bib shorts but 
> without high pads and while ok the Kucharik were still the most 
> comfortable. 
>
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 7:59:02 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I was just perusing the new Riv email update and saw Andiamos.
>>
>> I gave up nastily clinging lycra shorts with nasty, bulky pillow pads 
>> over 20 years ago, but when I ride over 30 miles I do sometimes like to 
>> wear something a bit more bunch, crease, and chafe resistant than my usual 
>> oversized nylon boxers under street shorts or Rapha Randonee shorts.
>>
>> I've hoarded about 3 pairs of nice Kucharik wool shorts with real chamois 
>> or -- for one pair -- a synthetic that is also minimalist. 
>>
>> But I'd rather have something synthetic for ease of laundering and an 
>> undergarment that can be worn under any decent pair of shorts, as long as 
>> it serves as well the basic purpose of bike shorts: prevent bunching and 
>> chafing. Again, I'm not interested in padding; I chose the right saddle and 
>> I have it and bar positioned properly.
>>
>> So, those of you with relevant experience, will Andiamos be as 
>> comfortable under Rapha touring shorts as wool Kuchariks with chamois?
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: (Riv-adjacent) Black Mountain Cycles "Road"

[Dan]

For your consideration: my 62cm Black Mountain Cycles "Road" in the Merckx 
colorway. Build is Shimano Tiagra/GRX w/ Wolfooth NW ring, Thomson seapost 
and collar, Fizik stem, Pro bars, Tektro brakes, front brake lever is a 
Tektro aero, rear is a Tiagra brifter, Panaracer Gravel King tires. Saddle 
not included.

Shown with 82cm saddle height:
https://imgur.com/a/NPQNQvb

Is it a Rivendell? Sorry, no, but the geo is close to a 61cm Roadeo but 
with 20mm more reach (and some other minor differences that I consider 
close enough to come out in the wash):  
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5d61b35e6b56b4001760f48d,5b8578f548f3a30004789b17,&builds=,64aacf93ef92a7001f16d310,

$1050. Located in SoCal.  I have a bike box and will ship at cost 
(PirateShip--or you provide label), if you're not local.

Dan Af
Yorba Linda, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: [SFRandon] OT - recovered Rivendell Atlantis

[Adrianna T]

Someone messaged me today on Reddit and through Craigslist to say they saw my bike hanging off a small tent with other things at the non-paid area of Laney flea market. He said they were asking $600 for it. I went there shortly after and I could not find it though it is entirely possible this person asking about it might have spooked them, and it was stored or covered after. Also yesterday someone spotted my Soma Groove at 12th St Oakland BART station. I’m less concerned about that bike, though I will probably return to the flea market with some frequency to see if it’s there. I think it’ll be hard to fence / get rid of. Sent from a tiny deviceOn Jun 25, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Adrianna T  wrote:No, it was literally an Atlantis.Will keep an eye out. It is on bike index, one of the few rivendells that are posted there. -AdriannaOn Jun 25, 2023, at 7:53 AM, Sarah Carlson  wrote:Any news if this was your bike?On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-7 Adrianna T wrote:I am hoping this is my bike. Waiting to hear back!On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:28:56 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:Ha... you beat me to it. Thanks Eric.On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:22:46 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:Forwarding from another email list … 
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Begin forwarded message:From: Eric Larsen Subject: [SFRandon] OT - recovered Rivendell AtlantisDate: June 22, 2023 at 7:36:25 AM PDTTo: San Francisco Randonneurs Reply-To: ciren...@gmail.comIf you know anyone who had a Rivendell Atlantis stolen from them, please have them contact me off list to identify.Eric

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[RBW] Chainring Pins

[George Schick]

Anyone know what those "pins" in some chainrings are for?  I had an 
incident while riding today where the pedal suddenly got "stuck" when I 
tried shifting from the larger chainring to the smaller one.  I had to stop 
and when I tried moving the crank either forward or backward the chain 
bunched up between the RD and the chainring.  After examination I 
discovered that a chain link had gotten wedged under one of those 
free-floating pins.  This is the second chainring by the same company that 
I've installed that had those pins.  I also occasionally experience a 
"crunching" sound when starting from a stop position which resulted in a 
chain link broken completely in half.  I'm blaming those pins for that 
problem, too.  Will change anything if I drill them out?

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[RBW] Re: Chainring Pins

[Garth]

George, Drilling out the pins to expose the holes already present won't 
matter at all. Those holes are nothing compared to "back in the day" with 
the drillium craze !  The 60's weight weenies dream. 

http://classiccycleus.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Drilled-out-chainrings-and-crankarms.jpg

The pins and ramps are called "shift aides" by manufacturers. It's a rather 
self serving thing, that indexed shifting needs "aides" to help move the 
chain. Anyone that knows how to friction shift knows they are not needed. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: [SFRandon] OT - recovered Rivendell Atlantis

[Kim H.]

Do not give up, Adrianna !   It is out there. It is a matter of timing.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 12:36:38 PM UTC-7 Adrianna T wrote:

> Someone messaged me today on Reddit and through Craigslist to say they saw 
> my bike hanging off a small tent with other things at the non-paid area of 
> Laney flea market. He said they were asking $600 for it. 
>
> I went there shortly after and I could not find it though it is entirely 
> possible this person asking about it might have spooked them, and it was 
> stored or covered after. 
>
> Also yesterday someone spotted my Soma Groove at 12th St Oakland BART 
> station. 
>
> I’m less concerned about that bike, though I will probably return to the 
> flea market with some frequency to see if it’s there. I think it’ll be hard 
> to fence / get rid of. 
>
> Sent from a tiny device
>
> On Jun 25, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Adrianna T  wrote:
>
> No, it was literally an Atlantis.
>
>
> Will keep an eye out. It is on bike index, one of the few rivendells that 
> are posted there. 
>
> -Adrianna
>
> On Jun 25, 2023, at 7:53 AM, Sarah Carlson  wrote:
>
> 
> Any news if this was your bike?
>
>
> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-7 Adrianna T wrote:
>
>> I am hoping this is my bike. Waiting to hear back!
>>
>> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:28:56 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Ha... you beat me to it. 
>>> Thanks Eric.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 8:22:46 AM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 Forwarding from another email list … 

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 Begin forwarded message:

 *From: *Eric Larsen 
 *Subject: **[SFRandon] OT - recovered Rivendell Atlantis*
 *Date: *June 22, 2023 at 7:36:25 AM PDT
 *To: *San Francisco Randonneurs 
 *Reply-To: *ciren...@gmail.com

 If you know anyone who had a Rivendell Atlantis stolen from them, 
 please have them contact me off list to identify.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rebour saddle break in

[Luke Hendrickson]

+1 for the rec of Obenauf’s. If that saddle is anything like the Gilles 
Bethoud that I have (thicker, higher quality leather than contemporary 
Brooks), using Brooks saddle goop or something similar will not be good. 
It’ll overly soften it. Obenauf’s is wonderful and has made my GB the 
*absolute* pleasure that it is to ride now. Admittedly some 4500 miles have 
been put on this saddle since initial application so sweat, etc., has 
finished the job started by the conditioner. 

On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 6:31:03 AM UTC-7 Alex Wirth wrote:

> This saddle prob has 100 miles on it and still feels new.  Having a pretty 
> upright posture and approaching 200 lbs any of my brooks would be nice and 
> comfy by now.
>
> I think I’ll start by adding some proof hide to bottom…
>
> Wish me luck! 😅
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 7:39 AM Ryan  wrote:
>
>> It's nice that these saddles are being made again. My 3rd 73/74 Peugeot 
>> PX-10 bought in 1981 came with an Ideale 90 saddle; sometimes these bikes 
>> specced the Brooks Professional, which my first 2 had and sometimes the 
>> Ideale. Mine got caught in the rain numerous times and at one point, when 
>> my Peugeot was stored inside my downtown apartment and my son was 18 months 
>> to 2 years old I noticed the leather was drying out. No proofide to hand, 
>> but what I did have was Vaseline for diaper rash, so I applied a liberal 
>> coating to the top and underside of the saddle and blotted off the excess. 
>> Worked like a charm. The saddle, surprisingly, is still in great shape, 
>> although the labelling stamped into the leather has long since eroded after 
>> 40 years of benign neglect. I've proofided it every few years when I think 
>> of it. The 200+ price tag seems spendy, but if the quality of the leather 
>> used matches what I have, that saddle will last a long long time. I'm not 
>> sure the leather in modern saddles is as high quality. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 7:40:05 PM UTC-5 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Since the consistency of the color strongly suggests that this is a 
>>> brand-new Ideale 90 (an older one would have less even color, as a result 
>>> of decades of use), and would therefore be 1) newly made by the rebooted 
>>> company and 2) pricy (US $272 + shipping at today's conversion rate), have 
>>> you tried Ideale's saddle treatment (what they refer to as "maintenance 
>>> grease") and use instructions?
>>>
>>> https://www.sellesideale.fr/en/90-model/90-chromesteel-tan
>>>
>>> https://www.sellesideale.fr/en/care-instructions
>>>
>>> It's also possible that the Brooks v. Ideale factor comes into play 
>>> here. You don't say which model/s of Brooks you're accustomed to; there's a 
>>> wide range of variations over 100+ years. But generally, I have found all 
>>> Brooks saddles wider than the narrow "ass hatchet" models (B5N in 
>>> particular) to be wider than their analogous Ideale models. For me, this 
>>> has meant that I have an Ideale backside; my 1970s Rebour 90 and various 
>>> 60s-70s Ideale 80s fit me better than any Brooks model, even a 1973 Brooks 
>>> Professional which visually appears to have nearly the same shape as the 
>>> Ideale 90.
>>>
>>> It may be that you have a Brooks-friendly butt.
>>>
>>> The operators of the revived Ideale posted frequently to the Classic 
>>> Rendezvous group as they were starting up. Several CR members bought 
>>> saddles - both prototypes and release versions; they reported that the 
>>> Ideale people were excellent to deal with, and eager to offer assistance to 
>>> their users.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles/c/N3oWuQz4HYk/m/3ls2qc_YAQAJ
>>>
>>> Break-in treatments for leather saddles are a regular topic of 
>>> discussion there; as the Google Group's content is invisible to outsiders 
>>> (like iBOB; I'm not sure about RBWOB), it might be worth your while to 
>>> create an account. The website's in the process of a reboot, and the link 
>>> to request the webmaster/list administrator to be added to the forum has 
>>> not been made active yet; check back to https://classicrendezvous.com/ 
>>> in a few days.
>>>
>>> Peter "gonna buy one of those new Ideales, when my ship comes in" Adler
>>> riding on no-break-in Selle An-Atomicas most of the time in
>>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 2:43:47 PM UTC-7 Alex Wirth wrote:
>>>
>>> I usually don't add conditioner to my brooks saddles but this Rebour is 
>>> punishing my rear end like a cinder blockand looks like a newborn.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any sage advice other than some brooks saddle conditioner 
>>> and black shorts?
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG-9207.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rebour saddle break in

[Kim H.]

 

I highly recommend using Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP Leather Conditioner 
Natural Oil Beeswax I have used for my expensive leather boots, as well as, 
my Brooks B-67S saddle and others than I have owned over the years. I 
personally believe this is better than Proofide by Brooks. Here the method 
I use.

I apply the Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP Leather Conditioner Natural Oil Beeswax 
Formula on my Brook's saddle. I let it set overnight. Wipe off the excess 
the next day. Apply it again. Set it overnight. Wipe off excess the next 
day.. Loosening up the tension bolt helps too, but not too much. A couple 
of turns.By now, the leather should be more supple and pliable. 

Kim Hetzel

Yelm, WA. 

 
On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 6:35:23 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> +1 for the rec of Obenauf’s. If that saddle is anything like the Gilles 
> Bethoud that I have (thicker, higher quality leather than contemporary 
> Brooks), using Brooks saddle goop or something similar will not be good. 
> It’ll overly soften it. Obenauf’s is wonderful and has made my GB the 
> *absolute* pleasure that it is to ride now. Admittedly some 4500 miles 
> have been put on this saddle since initial application so sweat, etc., has 
> finished the job started by the conditioner. 
>
> On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 6:31:03 AM UTC-7 Alex Wirth wrote:
>
>> This saddle prob has 100 miles on it and still feels new.  Having a 
>> pretty upright posture and approaching 200 lbs any of my brooks would be 
>> nice and comfy by now.
>>
>> I think I’ll start by adding some proof hide to bottom…
>>
>> Wish me luck! 😅
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 7:39 AM Ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> It's nice that these saddles are being made again. My 3rd 73/74 Peugeot 
>>> PX-10 bought in 1981 came with an Ideale 90 saddle; sometimes these bikes 
>>> specced the Brooks Professional, which my first 2 had and sometimes the 
>>> Ideale. Mine got caught in the rain numerous times and at one point, when 
>>> my Peugeot was stored inside my downtown apartment and my son was 18 months 
>>> to 2 years old I noticed the leather was drying out. No proofide to hand, 
>>> but what I did have was Vaseline for diaper rash, so I applied a liberal 
>>> coating to the top and underside of the saddle and blotted off the excess. 
>>> Worked like a charm. The saddle, surprisingly, is still in great shape, 
>>> although the labelling stamped into the leather has long since eroded after 
>>> 40 years of benign neglect. I've proofided it every few years when I think 
>>> of it. The 200+ price tag seems spendy, but if the quality of the leather 
>>> used matches what I have, that saddle will last a long long time. I'm not 
>>> sure the leather in modern saddles is as high quality. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 7:40:05 PM UTC-5 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Since the consistency of the color strongly suggests that this is a 
 brand-new Ideale 90 (an older one would have less even color, as a result 
 of decades of use), and would therefore be 1) newly made by the rebooted 
 company and 2) pricy (US $272 + shipping at today's conversion rate), have 
 you tried Ideale's saddle treatment (what they refer to as "maintenance 
 grease") and use instructions?

 https://www.sellesideale.fr/en/90-model/90-chromesteel-tan

 https://www.sellesideale.fr/en/care-instructions

 It's also possible that the Brooks v. Ideale factor comes into play 
 here. You don't say which model/s of Brooks you're accustomed to; there's 
 a 
 wide range of variations over 100+ years. But generally, I have found all 
 Brooks saddles wider than the narrow "ass hatchet" models (B5N in 
 particular) to be wider than their analogous Ideale models. For me, this 
 has meant that I have an Ideale backside; my 1970s Rebour 90 and various 
 60s-70s Ideale 80s fit me better than any Brooks model, even a 1973 Brooks 
 Professional which visually appears to have nearly the same shape as the 
 Ideale 90.

 It may be that you have a Brooks-friendly butt.

 The operators of the revived Ideale posted frequently to the Classic 
 Rendezvous group as they were starting up. Several CR members bought 
 saddles - both prototypes and release versions; they reported that the 
 Ideale people were excellent to deal with, and eager to offer assistance 
 to 
 their users.


 https://groups.google.com/g/classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles/c/N3oWuQz4HYk/m/3ls2qc_YAQAJ

 Break-in treatments for leather saddles are a regular topic of 
 discussion there; as the Google Group's content is invisible to outsiders 
 (like iBOB; I'm not sure about RBWOB), it might be worth your while to 
 create an account. The website's in the process of a reboot, and the link 
 to request the webmaster/list administrator to be added to the forum has 
 not been made active yet; check back to https://classicrendezvou

[RBW] FS: Twin water bottles cages, toe clips and a Suntour XC PRO thumb shifter

[Kim H.]

I have for sale one pair of twin water bottle cages, two sets of Christophe 
toe clips and a single friction/7-speed Suntour XC PRO thumb shifter.

The water bottle cages are unique each one can carry two water bottles at 
the same time mounted onto your bicycle frame.
$20.00/each, $10.00, shipped or $35.00 for both, plus $15.00 shipped.

The both Christophe steel toe clips are a size Medium. One set is in very 
good condition. The other set isn't. There are areas of the chrome that is 
corroded and rusty. If you buy the one in good condition, I will give you 
the other one FREE. A two for one offer.
$20.00, shipped.

The Suntour XC PRO friction/7-speed right thumb shifter is fair condition 
with its share of beausage.  $20.00, shipped.

All shipments are to be shipped in the CONUS only.
Payment via Paypal friends and family.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O7mu5Ezy9M3PqFN_6Ke8svhblDAFvL7G/view?usp=drive_link
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