[RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

2017-10-05 Thread MartyG
Thanks Kai! That is such a nice color, almost the original Rivendell road blue. 
Can't wait to see yours in the wild. Hope mine comes a day early too! 

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[RBW] Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread Garth
The "best tire in the world" are the ones on your bike right now. If anyone 
doubts this, try riding without any tires !  If you need new tires, the best 
ones are the ones you get, regardless of how or why. 


Questioning and comparing yourself to others is futile, like being a pinball in 
the machine and wondering why you have no sense of direction. No one  is a 
pinball. 


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Re: [RBW] Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread Philip Kim
i've used compass babyshoes, switchback hills, and rat trap passes, all in 
standard and EL casing.

now that i only have one bike which consolidates my miles, i prefer hetres 
as the best value.

surprisingly enough, i have the parimoto with gravelking casing on my 
girlfriends BDB Pelican, and i think they are "close enough". ymmv

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Re: [RBW] Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread Lee Legrand
Lee Legrand very concisely asked: "Huh?" in response to my sarcastic
request for the best tires in the world to be cheap.  It was a sarcastic
comment.  Many many people have learned that better tires are better.  Many
people believe that Compass tires are the best in the world for their given
size.  Many of those people also complain that Compass tires are
expensive.  Some ask participants of the Rivendell Bicycle Works Owners
Bunch Google Group to explain and justify the pricing of Compass Bicycles
Ltd.  I think that state of affairs is amusing on many levels and my
sarcastic post was an attempt to add more amusement to the comedy.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

Thanks for clarifying.  Now I know you did not smoke bad bag of bud
yesterday.

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> i've used compass babyshoes, switchback hills, and rat trap passes, all in
> standard and EL casing.
>
> now that i only have one bike which consolidates my miles, i prefer hetres
> as the best value.
>
> surprisingly enough, i have the parimoto with gravelking casing on my
> girlfriends BDB Pelican, and i think they are "close enough". ymmv
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[RBW] Re: Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch



[image: Related image][image: Image result for pinball machine tilting]

On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 8:45:19 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:Questioning 
and comparing yourself to others is futile, like being a pinball in the 
machine and wondering why you have no sense of direction. No one  is a 
pinball.


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Re: [RBW] 10x200 mile challenge nearing the end

2017-10-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ha! I hope. Grin.

I heard Bill saying something very different. That to rank them diminishes 
them and the rides on them and himself because they are all inherently 
different and inherently good for their specific purposes. Bill is 
upholding bicycle dignity (to use the Catholic social justice concept of 
human dignity incredibly loosely with bicycles), and exercising bold 
humility in doing so.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 9:47:28 PM UTC-6, Mattt wrote:
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> Bill said he is not doing a bike ranking, which I understand.  You don't 
> want the other children to know the favorite.

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Re: [RBW] 10x200 mile challenge nearing the end

2017-10-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
I’m always reminding people how boldly humble I am.  

Grin

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, Ca

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[RBW] Re: Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Can we incorporate a "like" tab on these posts? Bill Lindsay and Mark in Beacon 
made me laugh today. IME, you just can't beat Compass. It does lead to a 
dilemma when you have several bikes though, because, yes, they're pricey. But a 
few years ago I tried the GB ELs and didn't find them to change my riding 
experience in any noticeable manner, compared to the Riv Jack Browns I had been 
running. But when I put even the standard casing Compass on the Hilsen for the 
first time, I was stunned at how great they were. 

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[RBW] Re: BG Rock and roll tires 700c

2017-10-05 Thread Carla Waugh
I’ll check and I will be in Santa Fe for a few days. Thanks

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[RBW] Re: BG Rock and roll tires 700c

2017-10-05 Thread Carla Waugh
Gumwall 

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Re: [RBW] 10x200 mile challenge nearing the end

2017-10-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Multi-leveled self effacement is a sure sign. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick 

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[RBW] Re: Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread lum gim fong
 I cannot definitively say that any tires I've ridden made me go faster. This 
is according to the bike computer on familiar routes. But I will say the GB and 
Compass tires corner better than anything I've ridden, stick good,  very stable 
descents, and ride and handle real nice. My favorite tires. Good flats track 
record. I also like how they seem to carry their momentum when you start up a 
hill compared to other tires I've ridden. That means I don't have to downshift 
until I get further up the hill for a more exhilarating ride experience. But 
again seems like the clock shows I'm not any faster on any given tire.

Anyway I don't use a bike computer anymore. I just use my internal 
"fun-o-meter" and I also enjoy just tracking how many miles I ride each week 
with my GPS on my iPhone. Fun-o-meter works way better than a computer!

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Re: [RBW] 10x200 mile challenge nearing the end

2017-10-05 Thread lum gim fong
Too bad I don't live in Bill's area or I definitely would have volunteered to 
help him get the 200 miles in on his tandem!

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[RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

2017-10-05 Thread Kainalu V.
Honestly, I'm looking forward to mudding it up. Was hoping for a burnt pumpkin, 
but blue's good. Are you in and around NYC Marty? There's a swiftly growing 
contingent of step through rivs on wasternmost L.I., can't wait to see your 
mighty Silver rearing it's headtube soon (certainly two days early!)
-Kai
BK NY 

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[RBW] Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread lum gim fong

*Please let's not discuss helmet use.*
*I'm Just looking for Jobst quotes.*

Just wanted to know if he ever discussed this publicly.

I cannot find any comments by him about it online.
Anyone here read anything he said on this?

Thanks for any links.

Let's leave this at just links. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread Irreguleur
https://www.bicycling.com/culture/people/cycling-legend-jobst-brandt-passes-away

Big quote about half-way through the article.

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[RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Finding Jobst quotes on helmets is hard. One must access a search engine 
and type in both Jobst and helmet. Here's the money quote:

“I avoid helmet discussions because they are a religious belief. There are 
no realistic tests and all the people I know who crashed with one received 
severe head injuries as bad as if they had no helmet— usually skull 
fractures in the face. In contrast, I and my fellow riders have crashed 
often and not gotten head injuries other than a scrape that drew a bit of 
blood.

As I pointed out, Muhammad Ali's glove has far more cushioning than a 
bicycle helmet, yet it was possible with a mass far less than a human skull 
for him to deliver knockout punches, protection against which the bicycle 
helmet is touted.”

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 10:06:52 AM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote:
>
>
> *Please let's not discuss helmet use.*
> *I'm Just looking for Jobst quotes.*
>
> Just wanted to know if he ever discussed this publicly.
>
> I cannot find any comments by him about it online.
> Anyone here read anything he said on this?
>
> Thanks for any links.
>
> Let's leave this at just links. Thanks.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread Brewster Fong


On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 9:06:52 AM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>
>
> *Please let's not discuss helmet use.*
> *I'm Just looking for Jobst quotes.*
>
> Just wanted to know if he ever discussed this publicly.
>
> I cannot find any comments by him about it online.
> Anyone here read anything he said on this?
>
> Thanks for any links.
>
> Let's leave this at just links. Thanks.
>

Although I didn't see anything from Jobst about helmets, there are two big 
sources for his quotes/responses to mainly questions in rec.bicycles.tech 
(which I believe is still around!)

The first is Sheldon Brown's Bicycle FAQ by Jobst:
 http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/index.html

The second is the one cited in the FAQ, Norman Yarvin's yarchive.net:

http://yarchive.net/bike/index.html

The second is broken down by topic and cites who the author is like Jobst.

Good Luck! 

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Re: [RBW] Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
+1 Eric.  I just pay the price and enjoy the ride.  I am utterly spoiled by 
Compass tires.

On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 12:07:21 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My riding took a leap forward a few years ago when I finally broke down 
> and started buying expensive tires. They do make a difference, and they are 
> worth the money.
>
> I currently ride Grand Bois and Compass tires almost exclusively. The 
> major exception is a 650B-equipped Rivendell that currently has Gravel 
> Kings, which are are the last “cheap” tires I still use.
>
> --Eric N
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.CampyOnly.com
> Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
> @Campyonlyguy
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2017, at 8:47 PM, Bill Lindsay > 
> wrote:
>
> Lee Legrand very concisely asked: "Huh?" in response to my sarcastic 
> request for the best tires in the world to be cheap.  It was a sarcastic 
> comment.  Many many people have learned that better tires are better.  Many 
> people believe that Compass tires are the best in the world for their given 
> size.  Many of those people also complain that Compass tires are 
> expensive.  Some ask participants of the Rivendell Bicycle Works Owners 
> Bunch Google Group to explain and justify the pricing of Compass Bicycles 
> Ltd.  I think that state of affairs is amusing on many levels and my 
> sarcastic post was an attempt to add more amusement to the comedy.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 6:16:47 PM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:
>>
>> I don’t ask for much.  I just want somebody to ignore all costs to 
>> develop and manufacture the best tires in the world and I want them to sell 
>> them to me for really really cheap.  What’s so hard about that?!
>>
>> Huh?
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t ask for much.  I just want somebody to ignore all costs to 
>>> develop and manufacture the best tires in the world and I want them to sell 
>>> them to me for really really cheap.  What’s so hard about that?!
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[RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

2017-10-05 Thread MartyG
Are you in and around NYC Marty? 

Nope. Southern PA, just North of Baltimore. A gathering of muddied up Mt. 
Mixtes sounds like fun though. RoscoRally? Bubbapalooza? 

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[RBW] Many Faces of Mr. Clem

2017-10-05 Thread Davey Two Shoes
I fiddle with the set up of this bike more than any of my others and 
decided to share some of my configurations.
Not much going on at work today


[img]https://i.imgur.com/HcPqPn6.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Gd7tk2t.jpg[/img][img]https://i.imgur.com/Du1hhT5.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/ibE73YP.jpg[/img]

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[RBW] Re: Many Faces of Mr. Clem

2017-10-05 Thread Davey Two Shoes
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Du1hhT5.jpg?1[/img]

On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 2:09:33 PM UTC-4, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
> I fiddle with the set up of this bike more than any of my others and 
> decided to share some of my configurations.
> Not much going on at work today
>
>
> [img]https://i.imgur.com/HcPqPn6.jpg[/img]
> [img]
> https://i.imgur.com/Gd7tk2t.jpg[/img][img]https://i.imgur.com/Du1hhT5.jpg?1[/img]
> [img]https://i.imgur.com/ibE73YP.jpg[/img]
>

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[RBW] Re: BG Rock and roll tires 700c

2017-10-05 Thread Davey Two Shoes
ok, im interested depending on shipping costs. Send me a PM whenever :)

On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 11:05:12 AM UTC-4, Carla Waugh wrote:
>
> Gumwall 

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[RBW] Re: Many Faces of Mr. Clem

2017-10-05 Thread Irreguleur
Great pictures Davey! I don't have anything against Bosco's (currently 
using and loving them), but it's refreshing to see a something else on this 
versatile frame.

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[RBW] Many Faces of Mr. Clem

2017-10-05 Thread Christopher Cote
Very nice! Is that a 52cm frame? What's your saddle height?

Chris

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[RBW] Re: Many Faces of Mr. Clem

2017-10-05 Thread Davey Two Shoes
I had boscos on for a while, they were nice. i cant find any pictures 
though :(

I can check my saddle height later but my pbh is 81.4

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[RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread Ron Mc
maybe he never fell down - I haven't been that lucky

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
In fact, in the end didn't he crash and suffer brain damage from which 
he never recovered?



On 10/05/2017 02:45 PM, Ron Mc wrote:

maybe he never fell down - I haven't been that lucky



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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread Ron Mc
I crashed and without brain damage (only because of the helmet), though 
some may say I never recovered.  

On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 2:08:08 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> In fact, in the end didn't he crash and suffer brain damage from which 
> he never recovered? 
>
>
> On 10/05/2017 02:45 PM, Ron Mc wrote: 
> > maybe he never fell down - I haven't been that lucky 
> > 
>
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> USA 
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Re: [RBW] Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread Orc
Resist Nomad 700x28c, Hutchinson Confrerie des 650b.   The Pari-Moto is a 
little too expensive to go into the cheap category, and the Nomad 35 is 
good, but it's just a tire.

-david parsons

On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 9:35:45 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> There's that old saying about fast, good, & cheap.  You only get to pick 2 
> of 3.
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 8:47:29 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Lee Legrand very concisely asked: "Huh?" in response to my sarcastic 
>> request for the best tires in the world to be cheap.  It was a sarcastic 
>> comment.  Many many people have learned that better tires are better.  Many 
>> people believe that Compass tires are the best in the world for their given 
>> size.  Many of those people also complain that Compass tires are 
>> expensive.  Some ask participants of the Rivendell Bicycle Works Owners 
>> Bunch Google Group to explain and justify the pricing of Compass Bicycles 
>> Ltd.  I think that state of affairs is amusing on many levels and my 
>> sarcastic post was an attempt to add more amusement to the comedy.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 6:16:47 PM UTC-7, Lee Legrand wrote:
>>>
>>> I don’t ask for much.  I just want somebody to ignore all costs to 
>>> develop and manufacture the best tires in the world and I want them to sell 
>>> them to me for really really cheap.  What’s so hard about that?!
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 I don’t ask for much.  I just want somebody to ignore all costs to 
 develop and manufacture the best tires in the world and I want them to 
 sell 
 them to me for really really cheap.  What’s so hard about that?!

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[RBW] Re: PSA -Atlantis

2017-10-05 Thread Christopher Cote
How does the Atlantis compare to the blue Rosco?

Chris

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[RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread lum gim fong
 Right, I am just looking for links, as stated in the OP.

But moderator can remove the thread  now if he likes, since I got an answer 
already.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread Kyle Brooks
As I recall, Jobst did crash, but the brain damage he suffered had nothing 
to do with the crash itself, but some kind of complication that happened 
after he got to the hospital.

Kyle Brooks
Akron, OH, USA
On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 3:08:08 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> In fact, in the end didn't he crash and suffer brain damage from which 
> he never recovered? 
>
>
> On 10/05/2017 02:45 PM, Ron Mc wrote: 
> > maybe he never fell down - I haven't been that lucky 
> > 
>
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> USA 
>
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[RBW] FS: various perennially popular components...

2017-10-05 Thread Philip Kim
Joe interested in the nitto 135 can't message on mobile.

Please email at philipw...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Re: PSA -Atlantis

2017-10-05 Thread Gabriel Bruguier

I have been thinking about that question a lot over the last few days, 
Christopher.  In terms of fit, I don't think there's much of a difference 
between the two.  

The thing that stands out the most to me is ride quality.  The Atlantis 
seems to do a better job at smoothing out road noise than the Rosco.  It 
feels more stable as well, probably owing to the slightly lower BB and 
slightly longer chainstays than the Rosco.  

There's some psychological stuff going on as well when I ride the Atlantis 
that wasn't the case when I rode the Rosco.  I have read over and over 
about the "magical feel" of the Atlantis, or something like that.  And I 
agree with those assessments-- it is a darn fine riding bicycle.  
Confirmation bias?  Maybe.  I guess time will tell.

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[RBW] Re: PSA -Atlantis

2017-10-05 Thread Matt Beecher
Good catch!  Those are nice bikes.

To be honest, I was in contact with the seller because I was originally 
going to have a coworker pick it up a few weeks back, but then I was 
schedule to go to MN myself.  It kept getting bumped, but now I am supposed 
to be heading up that way on Tuesday.  Long story short, my wife thanks 
you, or I would have brought that back and possibly sold my 61cm frame.  

Cheers,
Matt


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>
> I'll revive this thread with the announcement that I am now the owner of 
> this Atlantis.  
>
> I was in the Twin Cities for a wedding and arranged with the seller to see 
> the frame.  Seller was the original owner, had ridden it lots but cared for 
> it (framesaver, etc), and had recently powdercoated it.  
>
> It is a Toyo built frame with a serial number of 'AT00287', which, if my 
> research on this forum is correct, indicates that I now own the 287th 
> Atlantis produced.  Way cool.
>
> I hastily built it up this week but have only had time for short rides in 
> the evenings/nights.  But my initial impressions are overwhelmingly 
> positive.  I have a PBH in the 86 range, and fit is spot on.  Ride and 
> handling are superb.  I can't wait to take it out for an all day ride.
>
> Proof photo is attached.  It was the maiden voyage, quite late, but I just 
> didn't want to go home!  
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Flyer Special, Paul Motolite, Nitto S65, Nexus 8, Ortlieb Panniers, Inolight, and Big Apple (Final Parts Clear Out)

2017-10-05 Thread Mattt


This is what is left. Price drop on items.


Link to pictures below.  Let me know if you have any questions or want to 
see something specific.


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3njnWUSiXUHZ0tLV0dhQnllV0E

 

Brooks Flyer Special in Black. Almost new.  I looked over the saddle and 
did not see any scuffs. $110



Schwalbe Big Apple Kevlar Guard 26x2.35 set (you get two).  Lots of life 
left.  Not used much. $45



Inolight 10+ and Top Light Plus, comes with wiring - $40



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Re: [RBW] Diff between slick GravelKing and Compass Babyshoe Pass? Looks the same. Described the same.

2017-10-05 Thread John Hawrylak
I agree, Many years ago, Grant stated in a write up, RBW had to purchase  a 
new Jack Brown mold as the original was wearing.  

On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 9:42:58 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure Compass owns the mold. 
>
>
>
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[RBW] French Fender Day 2017 at JPW

2017-10-05 Thread Call Me Jay
Who's in?  My Rivendells are staying at home but I'll be there with my 650b 
Peugeot PX-50 (and maybe my son's 500a Gitane).  

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[RBW] Re: Many Faces of Mr. Clem

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Packard
Glad you are enjoying the bike and kept the Willie sticker. :) 

Here are a couple pix of it with boscos (I bought the Clem new, then 
happened upon a Homer and didn't want to keep both).

https://www.instagram.com/p/BS6J3cBBr8P/?taken-by=hobocross

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQF-8x4ANrR/?taken-by=mr.ghort

Mike

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Re: [RBW] Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-05 Thread Eric K
I don’t understand the warning so often repeated to avoid glueless patches.

I had a rear tube with eight patches, half of which were glueless. The most 
recent glueless patch had almost 2000 miles, and the oldest glueless had over 
4000 miles. The patches all held up just fine until puncture #9 was too close 
to the edge of an existing repair. Yes, it was hard to dispose of that tube. 

Maybe glueless patches are indeed “getchahome” repairs for racer types with 
120psi. But my experience at 80-85psi has given me confidence that they can 
also be a long-term repair.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is tube patching a permanent, reliable fix?

2017-10-05 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have never been afraid to patch a front tube. Of course I almost always have 
flats occur on rear tires. I don't know about others, but I am 52 and am pretty 
sure I've only flatted a front tire a handful of times ever. Maybe I'm just 
lucky. I'm sure if I had ever ridden often in goathead country I might have 
different experience.

Eamon
Seattle WA

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[RBW] Spouse friendly bike shops in Seattle?

2017-10-05 Thread iCloud
Hey folks-
Taking a 3 day trip to Seattle with my pregnant wife for the 3 day weekend. 
What are the shops I can take her to without getting skinned alive?

-Justin, due in December.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst ever say why he didn't wear helmet?

2017-10-05 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
It was my understanding that he had a bad leg brake from the crash, and then 
subsequently suffered a stroke at some point afterward.

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[RBW] Spouse friendly bike shops in Seattle?

2017-10-05 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
I don't know what you mean by spouse friendly, but my favorite shops are Free 
Range Cycles (in Fremont), Counterbalance (near U-village), and I hear good 
things about Backalley Bike Repair (Pioneer Square?), although I've never been 
there.

Eamon
Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] 10x200 mile challenge nearing the end

2017-10-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Towards my preparation for the Marin Mountains 200k, I pre-rode the second 
half of the course today, which was really fun. The highlights were the 
Inverness Ridge Trail and Bolinas Ridge Trail and the near perfect 
weather.  It ended up being just a hair over 100 miles, with over 8000 feet 
of climbing.  I'm pretty tired. I don't think I've ever done a solo century 
before, except doing a few 200k permanents.  

Strava does monthly distance challenges and a monthly climbing challenges. 
You can earn "badges" that document your accomplishments. I've been joining 
those challenges during this time off of work. As a fleeting moment of 
glory, as of right now, I'm 19th in the United States for climbing in 
October, out of 11,000 American Strava users who have joined this 
challenge. That won't last long as I head back to work, but it's fun seeing 
my name on a leaderboard.   

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, Ca

On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 4:40:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> It's been worth it on many levels. Maybe on more levels than I expected. 
>
> - It's been worth it from a cycling/fitness perspective. I'm getting a lot 
> stronger, and a lot faster. 
> - I'm feeling prepared for the Marin Mountains 200k, which as far as I can 
> tell, might be the hardest 200k brevet on the RUSA calendar. 
> - I'm feeling prepared for the 2018 Mountain bike racing season, even 
> though I'm not one of the racers. Maybe I'll ride as a sweeper at the 
> races. Most of "my" racers follow me on Strava and/or Instagram and I hope 
> my work inspires them to work.  
> - I'm seeing weight loss results. There's a scale at the office that 
> measures your weight and estimates your body composition from electrical 
> impulses through your feet. At the beginning of this, I was 180lbs, 25% 
> body fat. I'm excited to weigh in next Tuesday. I haven't stepped on a 
> scale, but I see how I look different in the mirror and I see how tight 
> clothes fit. I've made dietary tweaks in addition to my riding to get this 
> done.  I'm shooting for <165lbs, 15% body fat, which would be awesome. At 
> that point, I'm an athlete, not just a mechanic.
> - I'm considering continuing this training to go for an SR Series in 2018, 
> with a potential outcome of taking a run at PBP 2019.   
> - I've done several very memorable rides, including revisiting some rides 
> that I hadn't done in many years. 
> - I'm very fond of all the bikes in my stable, and so far none of the 
> bikes have disappointed.  The two biggest upside surprises have been my 
> Rosco Bubbe step through and my Gunnar Double-speed. The Rosco Bubbe kicks 
> ass, and has now completely filled the spot I was holding for a 650B 
> Atlantis. I can't think of anything I could have done on a 650B Atlantis 
> that I won't be able to do with my Rosco Bubbe 650B step through.  I've 
> always viewed my Gunnar two-speed single speed as my most pointless bike.  
> I live on a steep hill in a very hilly area, what do I need with a bike 
> without derailers?  Now that I'm kind of fit, I can power up a lot more 
> hills than I could have a couple months ago. I have set a couple Strava 
> Personal Records (PR) in the lower gear, and it's taking shape in my mind 
> as a legitimate training tool.  
> - I've gotten a great sneak peek at retirement (I'm 48), and I have 
> absolutely no worries that there will be plenty to occupy me when I've 
> given up work for good. I'll try to pull in the date as much as I can. 
> - It's been essentially 100% solo, and I'm still really good at keeping 
> myself company. Capping it off with an SFR event will give me a taste of 
> the camaraderie part. I hope I'm friendly enough.  :-/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>>
>> So has it been worth it?  And did any special favorites among the many 
>> emerge?  (Or was it a case of "Love the One You're With"?) 
>>
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