[RBW] Re: Ride Report On New Saluki
I don't think you'll regret the Atlantis. If you live. I think the Saluki can do anything you want it to do, but I'd rather have an Atlantis than an MB-2 myself... Philip On Nov 15, 11:05 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > on 11/15/11 11:26 AM, Peter Morgano at uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hmm, I would love to get out there on some fire roads upstate. Cant tell > what kind of rubber you are using though. I have the grand bois hetres which > do a great job on the pothole riddled roads here in Brooklyn but you think > they would be ok for soft dirt/gravel paths. I only ask because they really > have no "tread" to speak of to grab into the softer stuff. Thanks for any > advice you can offer. > > I've worked my way slowly to the opinion that for me and my riding, smooth > tires such as the Jack Browns work under a very, very wide range of > conditions. Now, granted, I've spent a few hours on trails on a variety of > tires and bicycles, and there are certainly conditions where the added bite > of a few knibblies is helpful. And, I'm also pretty comfortable in the odd > two-wheeled drift on the dirt track. > > But, I'd venture widely, take small bites and see where adhesion and > experience line up. Taking a little air out and being mindful of weight > distribution will make you a better rider. Staying relaxed and keeping the > bike underneath you helps as well. > > Others may have an opinon on the toughness of the GB Hetres off-pavement, > but as far as smooth tires go, I'd say give it a whirl. > > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > "That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the > anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace." > > William Gibson - "All Tomorrow's Parties" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why I Aspire
I know where my Quickbeam has marks, and how I put them there. Same for the Bontrager. The painful ones are the ones that happened in the garage because I was careless, not the chips and dings of use. I care, but the idea of bagging my bikes in UV plastic so they're collector's items... makes me itch. I already PAID my money, now let me enjoy it! In 40 years, I can sandblast both bikes and paint them black. I relate it to comic books, since I think they're a fantastic art form (with about the same gold to dross ratio as movies, thank you very much). I've saved comic books I love, but I've never "collected." I would rather have the experience of reading or riding for 40 years than the money I could sell the unread or unridden for later. Philip On Nov 13, 10:53 pm, Bob wrote: > Someday I will own one of the lovely-lugged bicycles that are the > subject of this group. As I've mentioned, the thing that keeps me > aspiring is the thought of doing this to such a nice bike: > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170728473966#ht_... > > This is what my bicycles look like after moderate use. > > Cheers, > Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 40oz Klean Kanteen Cages?
+1 on the Modula. Here's some pics: http://gspiess.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/topeak-modula-bottle-cage/ On Nov 15, 1:32 pm, futch wrote: > Has anyone ever seen bottle cages that could hold a 40 oz klean > kanteen? The website has some for the 27oz bottles, but I thought it > would be nice to have the bigger bottles too. I don't think it would > interfere with pedaling...maybe I'm wrong. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report On New Saluki
In my experience with lots and lots of dirt and gravel the only thing Hetres are not good at is when the dirt here turns to muddy clay after rain--thy thn slip on steep uphills. They're really just amazing tires. Extremely tough and versatile. I've never had a flat on rough roads. I'd recommend poking around the archives of the 650b google group where there's frequent discussion of such things. Best wishes, Christian On Nov 16, 2:05 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 11/15/11 11:26 AM, Peter Morgano at uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hmm, I would love to get out there on some fire roads upstate. Cant tell > what kind of rubber you are using though. I have the grand bois hetres which > do a great job on the pothole riddled roads here in Brooklyn but you think > they would be ok for soft dirt/gravel paths. I only ask because they really > have no "tread" to speak of to grab into the softer stuff. Thanks for any > advice you can offer. > > I've worked my way slowly to the opinion that for me and my riding, smooth > tires such as the Jack Browns work under a very, very wide range of > conditions. Now, granted, I've spent a few hours on trails on a variety of > tires and bicycles, and there are certainly conditions where the added bite > of a few knibblies is helpful. And, I'm also pretty comfortable in the odd > two-wheeled drift on the dirt track. > > But, I'd venture widely, take small bites and see where adhesion and > experience line up. Taking a little air out and being mindful of weight > distribution will make you a better rider. Staying relaxed and keeping the > bike underneath you helps as well. > > Others may have an opinon on the toughness of the GB Hetres off-pavement, > but as far as smooth tires go, I'd say give it a whirl. > > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > "That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the > anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace." > > William Gibson - "All Tomorrow's Parties" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Ride Report On New Saluki
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 14:26 -0500, Peter Morgano wrote: > Hmm, I would love to get out there on some fire roads upstate. Cant > tell what kind of rubber you are using though. Grand Bois Hetre. Best tire I've ever used on gravel roads. > I have the grand bois hetres which do a great job on the pothole > riddled roads here in Brooklyn but you think they would be ok for soft > dirt/gravel paths. I only ask because they really have no "tread" to > speak of to grab into the softer stuff. Thanks for any advice you can > offer. I haven't ridden on soft dirt paths. The unpaved roads where I ride -- and up in Wellsboro PA as well, as you can see in the photos linked to below -- are very hard dirt base. Tire tread doesn't do any sinking in and "grabbing" on such surfaces; in fact, if you want to dig there, better bring a pick-axe. On really soft surfaces and on wet grass, the Hetre isn't the best tire. But you don't have really soft surfaces or wet grass on unpaved roads with any real amount of motor vehicle traffic, in my experience. The other "dirt" surfaces I've ridden on are unpaved rail trails, typically paved with crushed limestone, which packs very hard beneath the top surface, and knobby tread isn't important on those surfaces either. > > Peter > > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Steve Palincsar > wrote: > On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 13:29 -0800, Peter M wrote: > > Reading about Seattle in November inspired me to upload pics > of my > > first 50 miles on the Saluki at the Brooklyn Waterfront > under the > > Verrazzano Bridge. I mean 60 Degrees in NY in November is > just > > amazing. Got two compliments from some gents in thier 70s on > bikes > > that looked like they got them when they were in high > school, but hey > > it was inspiring to think I could still be riding 40 years > from now on > > the Saluki! Link to some pics I snapped when I stopped for > a mentos > > break. http://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/?saved=1 > Bike rides > > just amazing and is so comfortable compared to anything else > I have > > owned. Seriously thinking about selling my MB2 to put a down > payment > > on an Atlantis so I can have something to go offroad > upstate... but > > have to wait until the spring or my wife would seriously > kill me in my > > sleep, hahaha! > > > If "offroad" to you means unpaved roads, the Saluki might well > be all > you need. I had a Saluki on the Riv Rally East this May, with > some very > nice dirt road riding, and it was just fine. Photos here: > http://www.flickr.com/groups/1691409@N23/pool/show/ > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Another Winters Run - YouTube
Thanks Eric for the vid, I used to teach in Winters back in the 70's. It sure has grown a bit. Steve Kesling > I've got to learn about the editing and such on these. Looks like fun. > > RGZ > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Eric Norris wrote: >> Video from today's ride. Riv content: I was on my Riv-ish lugged steel >> fixie, riding on a Brooks saddle and carrying a Carradice bag. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_x8Ts24dMo >> >> --Eric >> campyonly...@me.com >> www.campyonly.com >> www.wheelsnorth.org >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bon Voyage
The upside is an open position at RBWHQ. Some lucky Bay Area person is getting a new job. I'll wager John is sifting applicants already, even though what's up there is a draft. Good luck to Jay in his new situation. dougP On Nov 15, 6:26 pm, Zack wrote: > I have Jay to thank for my Supernova lighting up the Vermont backroads on > these fall nights. He was definitely a nice dude, I wish him well! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why I Aspire
I bought my Atlantis because it's a touring bike. I'd already done enough traveling to know it wasn't going to be possible to keep it pristine. Between packing & re-assembling, AMTRAK, FedEx, airlines, etc., a travel bike will get scratched (at the very least). The Atlantis color is pretty good at not showing scratches, & I've got plenty (the annual "touch-up task" is due). It just comes with using a bike for it's intended purpose. dougP On Nov 16, 1:00 am, Philip Williamson wrote: > I know where my Quickbeam has marks, and how I put them there. Same > for the Bontrager. The painful ones are the ones that happened in the > garage because I was careless, not the chips and dings of use. I care, > but the idea of bagging my bikes in UV plastic so they're collector's > items... makes me itch. I already PAID my money, now let me enjoy it! > In 40 years, I can sandblast both bikes and paint them black. > I relate it to comic books, since I think they're a fantastic art form > (with about the same gold to dross ratio as movies, thank you very > much). I've saved comic books I love, but I've never "collected." I > would rather have the experience of reading or riding for 40 years > than the money I could sell the unread or unridden for later. > > Philip > > On Nov 13, 10:53 pm, Bob wrote: > > > > > Someday I will own one of the lovely-lugged bicycles that are the > > subject of this group. As I've mentioned, the thing that keeps me > > aspiring is the thought of doing this to such a nice bike: > > >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170728473966#ht_... > > > This is what my bicycles look like after moderate use. > > > Cheers, > > Bob- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why I Aspire
I bought my Hillborne to be my "weekend" bike, well aware of Grant's words that it would quickly become my everyday bike. Too true. Two summers ago, I had the chance to ride from the Bay Area up to the Oregon/Washington border and back, and my Ultimate Touring Bike (Thorn with Rohloff hub) was still in the works, so I threw a large Wald basket on the front of the Hillborne and set off. A few times on the trip, the loaded basket swung around and gouged out a large scrape in the paint on the down tube - down to the bare metal. At first it bothered me quite a bit that I could let such a thing happen, but eventually I realized that this is part of what makes it MY bike, and not someone else's - every time I see that scrape I think of the joy of that trip. I wouldn't give up that month in the saddle for anything, and certainly not to undo the scratch. At a later point in time, a car trunk rack scraped off part of the seat tube label. Again, not a problem. A few times a year I give the bike a thorough cleaning, and I finally used a sanding block on that scrape to chase the rust away, dabbed all the chips I could find with clear nail polish, and wrapped the area of the scrape with a ring of reflective tape so now if and when the basket spins around it hits tape instead of paint. Bottom line: I ride my Hillborne almost every day. The Ultimate Touring Bike eventually materialized, and I now use it for loaded tours, big shopping trips, and rainy weather. Otherwise it's the Hillborne. It's still beautiful and I still get unsolicited compliments on it. And when I'm RIDING it, the last thing I notice is the chips. What I notice is the comfortable riding position, the comfort and security of the huge tires, and my overall bliss at using this wonderful invention called the bicycle. Sure, you can ride a beater every day and save a nice bike for the weekends, but why not be in love with the bike that you put the most miles on? Getting over your fear of chips scrapes allows you to get the most out of your bike. As long as you keep the rust at bay, no harm done. I call it abeausage. Daniel M Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Roadeo Build
Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently acquired. I have a 58cm Atlantis and was looking to build the Roadeo as my go fast bike. The Roadeo has a threaded headset and I am looking to build the bike up with brifiters. I am on a middle of the road budget and want the Roadeo to be distinctively different from my Atlantis. Any suggestions on buildups including wheels would be greatly appreciated. I weigh 195. Thanks in advance. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo Build
Do you know whether you prefer Shimano, Campy, or SRAM brifters? You'd do quite well with the build spec that Mark at Riv put together for a go-fast Roadeo. When I wanted to put together my road gruppo, I watched Ebay and was able to piece together a 9-sp dura ace drive train at a reasonable price. In general 9-sp will save you big bucks over 10-sp. At your weight I wouldn't go with the Ksyrium-type wheels, I'd stick with 32-hole Mavic Open Pro or Velocity Synergy. jim m wc ca On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Shawn wrote: > Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently > acquired. I have a 58cm Atlantis and was looking to build the Roadeo > as my go fast bike. The Roadeo has a threaded headset and I am looking > to build the bike up with brifiters. I am on a middle of the road > budget and want the Roadeo to be distinctively different from my > Atlantis. Any suggestions on buildups including wheels would be > greatly appreciated. I weigh 195. Thanks in advance. > > Shawn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
I think that there's great value in the current Campy Centaur group, especially if you can find non-Quick Shift set of brifters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/V2ZKpZP-vwAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
On Nov 16, 2:23 pm, Shawn wrote: > Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently > acquired. I'd take a good look at the SRAM Apex drivetrain. it's pretty smart. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
I just put a used SRAM Rival set-up on my Sam as an experiment to make it road-y-er. I had never used brifters before and they are fun for the kind of short rides that I do. I think the Apex group that Patrick suggested looks good too if you need the range. I went with the Rival because the used bits were cheap and I was able to find the old 2008 or 09 model in silver. The new stuff is all black (or white, I think). -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LcdURguUbAUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Early December Rivendell Garage Sale
Date: Saturday, December 3 Time: 8:30AM-10:00AM (No one will be admitted early.) Where: Rivendell driveway at 2040 N. Main Street, Walnut Creek. What: Stuff that's been piling up. Odds and ends. One-offs. Some new, some used. "As-is." Details: Cash only. Small bills will be handy. Store won't open 'til the sale is over. How much: Similar in scope, merchandise-wise, but not quite as big as last time, but enough to make it worth our and (hopefully) your while. Not so fine print: In-person sales only. Unfortunately, the nature of the stuff makes on-line sales impossible/ time prohibitive. All sales final. "As-is" means no warranty, no exchanges. Thanks for understanding. Hope to see you there! John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
If I were starting over with a non-touring road bike and still wanted low gears on it and wanted brifters, the following is what I'd do (and the SRAM rep told me it would work very well): I'd get SRAM road brifters and use a 34-50 crank. In the rear, I'd use a cassette that goes to 36. I'd use it with the SRAM mountain derailleur in the rear. Lowest gear ratio would be 34/36, and it would work really nicely. -Jim W. -Original Message- >From: Patrick in VT >Sent: Nov 16, 2011 1:34 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build > >On Nov 16, 2:23 pm, Shawn wrote: >> Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently >> acquired. > >I'd take a good look at the SRAM Apex drivetrain. it's pretty smart. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
Shawn, what do you have on your Atlantis? Bar Ends? And why Brifters on the Rodeo? Having used all the shifting systems I have concluded that brifters are superior in three types of riding. They have a tiny advantage over BEs in commuting traffic; a tiny advantage over BEs and a tiny disadvantage over DTs in rolling terrain; and a distinct advantage over both in mass rides. Their biggest disadvantages are initial cost, durability, and set up / reliability. On a "mid-budget" bike expensive brifters may lead to compromises on other components like brakes, hubs, and cranks without providing any real benefit. Personally, I do only a couple of mass start rides a year and have sold both pairs of the Shimano Ultegra Brifters I bought. If I were putting together a go fast Rodeo (and I do have a go fast Rambouillet and a go faster Marinoni) I would choose DT shifters and put the extra money into things like a nice White Ind. crank or hubs. enjoy the ride, michae -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QoOlrVs5WHMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
I forgot to say "Congratulations!" The Roadeo is a great bike and I'd buy one except that my Legolas makes a great go-fast road bike. jim m wc ca On Nov 16, 11:23 am, Shawn wrote: > Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently > acquired. I have a 58cm Atlantis and was looking to build the Roadeo > as my go fast bike. The Roadeo has a threaded headset and I am looking > to build the bike up with brifiters. I am on a middle of the road > budget and want the Roadeo to be distinctively different from my > Atlantis. Any suggestions on buildups including wheels would be > greatly appreciated. I weigh 195. Thanks in advance. > > Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
The Roadeo is the spiritual heir to the Road Standard. My Road is built up thusly: SRAM Apex group, stock 11-32 cassette, less the crank. Campy Record Triple crankset, 52/42 rings removed, 46 ring installed in the middle position, no outer ring, stock 30 T inner ring. White Industries hubs, 32 14/16 DB spokes, Velocity A32 rims Noodle bar, VO threadless stem on a Zoom quill adapter, Campy seatpost, B17 The Apex stuff shifts very well. The brakes are excellent, but you can't use them on the Roadeo as they are short reach. 46/30 x 11/32 gearing is very nice. I only shift off of the 46 for significant hills, most of the time the 46 is perfect. Someday I will find SRAM's 12/32 cassette, which has smaller jumps at the top and a bigger jump to the 32 bailout gear, that should be even better. I have Campy Centaur on another bike, geared 50/34 x 13/29. The Campy group is also very smooth and if the gearing range works for you it's a perfectly nice way to go. I sometimes wish for an eleven speed 12/29, 50/13 is not tall enough for some of the local descents. Probably not a popular sentiment around here. The WI hubs are excellent, the A23 rims seem durable enough and maximize the available volume of the tires. If the WI's are too pricey, a nice set of 105's (if you like maintaining loose ball hubs) or the Formula/Velocity sealed bearing hubs should work fine for much less. I have run 28 mm Rubino Pros and 32 mm Randonneur Hypers on the A23's with no problems. The one Roadeo rider I know loves his, I'm sure you will too. Bill On Nov 16, 11:23 am, Shawn wrote: > Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently > acquired. I have a 58cm Atlantis and was looking to build the Roadeo > as my go fast bike. The Roadeo has a threaded headset and I am looking > to build the bike up with brifiters. I am on a middle of the road > budget and want the Roadeo to be distinctively different from my > Atlantis. Any suggestions on buildups including wheels would be > greatly appreciated. I weigh 195. Thanks in advance. > > Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Early December Rivendell Garage Sale
Start spazing out now! This is like an early xmas! I had so much fun that last garage sale and got plenty of deals! I'm taking the day off and canceling all my plans. I'm there! Pictures from last garage sale: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjshkipo One of my favorite pictures of Grant and John: http://flic.kr/p/8FY2Sq Do I smell another Non-Rivendell Rivendell ride? - Manny "I think I just peed my pants" Acosta On Nov 16, 1:52 pm, John Bennett wrote: > Date: Saturday, December 3 > > Time: 8:30AM-10:00AM (No one will be admitted early.) > > Where: Rivendell driveway at 2040 N. Main Street, Walnut Creek. > > What: Stuff that's been piling up. Odds and ends. One-offs. Some new, > some used. "As-is." > > Details: Cash only. Small bills will be handy. Store won't open 'til > the sale is over. > > How much: Similar in scope, merchandise-wise, but not quite as big as > last time, but enough to make it worth our and (hopefully) your while. > > Not so fine print: In-person sales only. Unfortunately, the nature of > the stuff makes on-line sales impossible/ > time prohibitive. > > All sales final. "As-is" means no warranty, no exchanges. Thanks for > understanding. > > Hope to see you there! > > John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Early December Rivendell Garage Sale
Sure just rub it in. :) -sv On Nov 16, 2011 10:27 PM, "Manuel Acosta" wrote: > Start spazing out now! This is like an early xmas! I had so much fun > that last garage sale and got plenty of deals! I'm taking the day off > and canceling all my plans. I'm there! > > Pictures from last garage sale: > http://flic.kr/s/aHsjshkipo > > One of my favorite pictures of Grant and John: > http://flic.kr/p/8FY2Sq > > Do I smell another Non-Rivendell Rivendell ride? > > - Manny "I think I just peed my pants" Acosta > > > > > On Nov 16, 1:52 pm, John Bennett wrote: > > Date: Saturday, December 3 > > > > Time: 8:30AM-10:00AM (No one will be admitted early.) > > > > Where: Rivendell driveway at 2040 N. Main Street, Walnut Creek. > > > > What: Stuff that's been piling up. Odds and ends. One-offs. Some new, > > some used. "As-is." > > > > Details: Cash only. Small bills will be handy. Store won't open 'til > > the sale is over. > > > > How much: Similar in scope, merchandise-wise, but not quite as big as > > last time, but enough to make it worth our and (hopefully) your while. > > > > Not so fine print: In-person sales only. Unfortunately, the nature of > > the stuff makes on-line sales impossible/ > > time prohibitive. > > > > All sales final. "As-is" means no warranty, no exchanges. Thanks for > > understanding. > > > > Hope to see you there! > > > > John > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
Shawn: The Roadeo is a fabulous bike. I built mine with what was essentially an NOS Campagnolo Record 10 triple group with a carbon FSA triple. I weigh anywhere from 200 to 215 and love the bike. Cut and pasted below is the post I put on the list a few months ago, with a link to some pictures: -Finally getting some Roadeo time in. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625377490164/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625470080748/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625765337223/ A lot of parts came from a Colnago Masterlight. There's no comparison between the two bikes, really. The Roadeo with Rivendell geometry is a delight to ride. The Colnago is a really beautiful bike, but quite uncomfortable - - bars too low, neck always hurt, dopey short chain stays led to crummy shifting for Clyde. Clyde likes a triple, but the triple doesn't like 39 cm chainstays. So, the Roadeo has luscious 43 cm chainstays, which makes the shifting happy and smooth. The Campagnolo 10-speed brifters and rear derailleur now work happily with an FSA crankset (24-36-48). As for the frame, well, I need to come up with some prose to convey a sort of dreamy-eyed contentment here. As you would expect, the bike is very comfortable, very "plush," to you the common parlance, but quick and delightfully solid during out-of-the saddle climbing sprints. My Clydesdale Quads tried to crush the bike today, but the frame just rocks below the rider me, very content, no mushiness, no chainstay rub, no bottom bracket sway. Rock solid, and still comfortable. It feels nimble, and really excels on the downhills. I don't know nothin about no planing, not me, but I can say this bike sings pretty sweet when you push it hard. Of course, the fat dumb and happy Schwalbe Kojaks are like feather pillows. I'm really happy with the brakes - - I had read some posts about how these big mouth brakesets are sloppy and shaky, but I am happy to report they stop with alacrity, wonderful modulation, and perfect confidence - - even for Clyde doing 35 mph down rough pavement on an 18% descent. The bike, the brakes, and the tires give a fellow quite a smile on the downhill chicanes. The only thing wrong with this bike is the rider, who hain't been riding too much last few weeks. [I considered SRAM Apex as well. All the suggestions from the posts above are good. The Campagnolo ergo build I chose works great.] Good Luck RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
p.s. I also have an Atlantis - - mine is a 61 - wonderful bike, but the Roadeo is a nicer ride for anything short of a fire road. Having both bikes is the best of both worlds, congratulations. RL On Nov 16, 11:23 am, Shawn wrote: > Need some advice on the buildup of 59cm Roadeo frame I recently > acquired. I have a 58cm Atlantis and was looking to build the Roadeo > as my go fast bike. The Roadeo has a threaded headset and I am looking > to build the bike up with brifiters. I am on a middle of the road > budget and want the Roadeo to be distinctively different from my > Atlantis. Any suggestions on buildups including wheels would be > greatly appreciated. I weigh 195. Thanks in advance. > > Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bon Voyage
Jay's a good guy and will be missed. Also, let's not neglect to mention his film making skills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VR4KaDeAuI I hope he does more of those and posts from Arizona. jim "not applying for the job" m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
for me "go fast" and downtube shifters don't belong in the same equation. I have used Ultegra 9 speed brifters on a number of bikes over the last 10 years and have never had one malfunction. if you ride mostly on the tops of your drop bars, it is so much more efficient (for me) to be able shift and brake without moving my hands off the bars or the hoods. my drive train of choice is 9 speed, with 12-34 cassette, Ultegra outboard bearing triple crank (10 speed cranks work fine) (with a 26 granny in place of the standard 30), and Ultegra 6501 brifters. Have not tried SRAM stuff as I have sort of standardized all the bikes on the above combo. Should say most of riding is fast, smooth, mostly club rides that include a ton o climbing here in the SF east bay and environs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kONaL40VugQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build
oh wheels. can't beat Open Pro rims and middle of the road Shimano hubs shod with 25c Michelin Pro Race tires for good pavement. i just had built some lighter weight Velocity A23 rims, Sapim Laser spokes, C-4 hubs and installed Schwalbe 25c Ultremo tires...oh what a ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ewntZs22JhIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
