[RBW] Re: Riv'ish trails in Berkeley Hills/Tilden?
Thanks for the input folks. I took the Old Tunnel-Skyview way up, and it was - dare I say - easy compared to Centennial. It also didn't hurt that I took my 35lb atlantis up and not my 50lb one this time. Here's a pic taking a break on the Bay Area Ridge trail; the bike is happy to be back in the motherland. http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/5400519788/in/pool-64927372@N00/ -- J. On Jan 28, 1:46 am, jose wrote: > Thanks Michael. That is exactly what I was looking for; I can download > those routes on to my gps to have in case I get lost out there. > > -- J. > > On Jan 27, 7:55 pm, Michael Levin wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Jose, > > > Here's a website that is used to map bike trails you > > like:http://www.bikely.com/listpaths/by/wozzz > > The funny story about it is that I bought my XO-1 from wozzz, the guy > > who recorded these trails and told me about this site! He lives in > > Oakland and some of these trails are right around Berkeley. Enjoy and > > please let us know if you try any. > > > All the best, > > > Michael > > > On Jan 26, 8:50 pm, jose wrote: > > > > Can anyone recommend some trail loops they like in the Berkeley > > > Hills / Tilden Park area? Swoopy fire roads, nothing technical but > > > still fun. > > > > I just moved to the area (Rockridge) and I'm looking for some short > > > ( 15 - 20 miles) jaunts out in the hills. > > > > Last week, the weather being what it was (ie perfect) I jumped on the > > > bike and meant to go explore the trails aroundInspirationPoint. > > > However, I made the mistake of of going up Centennial Rd and I was > > > cooked by the time I got to Grizzly Peak! I turned around, and coasted > > > back down the hill. Ha! I guess I'll have to drive to the trailhead > > > (lame) for now, until I get into better shape. I road my bike everyday > > > in Houston and thought I was in decent shape, but I guess I wasn't in > > > hills-shape. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW style bike security
I heard/read this advice from a unremembered source. They said to use a good U-Lock AND a good cable/chain lock. The logic being that the tools & methods required to defeat a u-lock were different from a chain/cable lock and that few bicycle thieves would carry both. Angus On Jan 29, 1:11 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Mike -- I'm by no means a security expert and, in fact, even as a > layman I have relatively little experience because for the last 20+ > years I've been fortunate to have been able to park my bikes in my > offices (and now, I work from home). So I'm really playing this by the > seat of my pants (that may be a grossly mixed metaphor -- hear out of > my ass? Anyway ...) but for my purpose -- short term parking of > expensive, custom Riv outside well trafficked grocery store in decent > area, for example -- it ought to be very adequate and it is cheaper > than buying a Krypto mini. > > I suppose you could smash the padlock with a sledgehammer, but in use > I think the ensemble would hang off the downtube, held in place by the > relatively tight link it makes between downtube and whatever post I > use, so that a thief could not get a good blow in, even if he had the > privacy to do so. > > I expect a Sawzall could get through the chain, but again, with a lot > of noise, the need for a second person to hold the chain steady, and > at least more time than required to slice through a U with a bolt > cutter. But then a Sawzall could get thru any lock with the right > postioning, no? > > I expect it is as good as the Krypto Mini 5 which K says is "the > choice of bike messengers) and goes for about $50; is it as good as > the K NY "Fuggedaboutit" mini, which one site claimed withstood the > leverage of 25+ stone of two guys hanging off the shackle on a 4.5' > bar and which costs over $100. > > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Mike S wrote: > > Patrick, > > > I am really intrigued by this method you've come up with, especially > > after seeing that video of the "not-so magnificent 7". While I doubt > > there are too many bicycle thieves walking around with 4-foot > > boltcutters, it's clear your cheapo solution is better than those > > pricey locks. > > > The one concern I have is the "weak link" of that setup, which is > > obviously the cutter-resistant padlock. Even if boltcutters can't mess > > with that, is there another common tool that could easily break the > > padlock? This post has made me semi-somewhat-super paranoid about > > security for my $2500+ RIv, and I don't know what to do. > > > Also, has it been confirmed that boltcutters can slice through a > > kryptonite mini with no problem? That's what I'm using now. The "price > > is quality" defect in my thinking says that this $27 solution couldn't > > possible be good enough, and the $125 Abus Bordo is the best bet > > because it's fancy German engineering. > > > Obviously, every lock is vulnerable and it's really about deterrence, > > but alas... > > > On Jan 29, 12:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> I'm debating where to leave it -- perhaps at the nearest Sunflower > >> market which I ride to 1X a week or so. It's about as small as I can > >> make it without compromising use or (wrt lock) security, but at 3lb 3 > >> oz it's a lb heavier than a large Kryptonite. > > >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:29 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> > Right crafty of you Patrick. Abus level security at a fraction of the > >> > price. > > >> > I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out more rugged than many a > >> > rack or pole you attach it to. > > >> > The only thing more secure will be when someone figures out how to > >> > duplicate the alloy Predator used for its lances. As I recall in > >> > Predator 2 some scientist said it more hard than any known metal yet > >> > was remarkably light. > > >> > On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> >> I have a $50 or so Krypto U lock that I bought a few months ago, but > >> >> after seeing the video I went to the nearby True Value and got a 20" > >> >> length of their "towing chain" and a bolt-cutter resistant padlock, > >> >> all for $27 or so. With a length of innertube to cover the chain, the > >> >> ensemble weighs 3 lb 3 oz, and is just long enough to wrap around the > >> >> front wheel and down tube of one of my customs and have length to > >> >> spare for a narrow post. (These Rivs have small wheels, and since > >> >> there is a larger gap between rim and dt, the chain has to be a few > >> >> inches longer than for a comparable 622 bike.) > > >> >> The shop man spent a good 15 minutes cutting my length; he got most of > >> >> the way through, more quickly, with a bench grinder, but had to finish > >> >> the last few mm with a hacksaw. I should have tipped him. > > >> >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Michael Richters > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:07 PM, PATRICK MOORE > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> The chain is very heavy and the man had to cut it with a grinder -- > >>
[RBW] Re: RBW style bike security
> ...and the abus monobloc like > this:http://bs0.hl-hosting.hu/ter/abus_winner_chain_92w65_lanc_lakat-402.jpg I have that chain but a different pad lock. Only downside is the weight. Patrick's solution - living the device on a rack you frequent - is the best if practical where you ride. Somewhat difficult in my area because there are so many cyclists and so few racks. I use the lock and chain on a bike in my storage room. If a miscreant ever managed to get through the main door and my room door, h/she would find an even more formidable security device to defeat. On Jan 29, 1:29 pm, omnigrid wrote: > ...and the abus monobloc like > this:http://bs0.hl-hosting.hu/ter/abus_winner_chain_92w65_lanc_lakat-402.jpg > > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:25 PM, omnigrid wrote: > > I like this abus padlock: > >http://www.bikeregistry.com/estore/product_info.php?products_id=55&os... > > > the kryptonite fah mini u-lock can be had on ebay for about 60 bucks w/ > > free shipping. > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > >> Mike -- I'm by no means a security expert and, in fact, even as a > >> layman I have relatively little experience because for the last 20+ > >> years I've been fortunate to have been able to park my bikes in my > >> offices (and now, I work from home). So I'm really playing this by the > >> seat of my pants (that may be a grossly mixed metaphor -- hear out of > >> my ass? Anyway ...) but for my purpose -- short term parking of > >> expensive, custom Riv outside well trafficked grocery store in decent > >> area, for example -- it ought to be very adequate and it is cheaper > >> than buying a Krypto mini. > > >> I suppose you could smash the padlock with a sledgehammer, but in use > >> I think the ensemble would hang off the downtube, held in place by the > >> relatively tight link it makes between downtube and whatever post I > >> use, so that a thief could not get a good blow in, even if he had the > >> privacy to do so. > > >> I expect a Sawzall could get through the chain, but again, with a lot > >> of noise, the need for a second person to hold the chain steady, and > >> at least more time than required to slice through a U with a bolt > >> cutter. But then a Sawzall could get thru any lock with the right > >> postioning, no? > > >> I expect it is as good as the Krypto Mini 5 which K says is "the > >> choice of bike messengers) and goes for about $50; is it as good as > >> the K NY "Fuggedaboutit" mini, which one site claimed withstood the > >> leverage of 25+ stone of two guys hanging off the shackle on a 4.5' > >> bar and which costs over $100. > > >> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Mike S wrote: > >> > Patrick, > > >> > I am really intrigued by this method you've come up with, especially > >> > after seeing that video of the "not-so magnificent 7". While I doubt > >> > there are too many bicycle thieves walking around with 4-foot > >> > boltcutters, it's clear your cheapo solution is better than those > >> > pricey locks. > > >> > The one concern I have is the "weak link" of that setup, which is > >> > obviously the cutter-resistant padlock. Even if boltcutters can't mess > >> > with that, is there another common tool that could easily break the > >> > padlock? This post has made me semi-somewhat-super paranoid about > >> > security for my $2500+ RIv, and I don't know what to do. > > >> > Also, has it been confirmed that boltcutters can slice through a > >> > kryptonite mini with no problem? That's what I'm using now. The "price > >> > is quality" defect in my thinking says that this $27 solution couldn't > >> > possible be good enough, and the $125 Abus Bordo is the best bet > >> > because it's fancy German engineering. > > >> > Obviously, every lock is vulnerable and it's really about deterrence, > >> > but alas... > > >> > On Jan 29, 12:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> >> I'm debating where to leave it -- perhaps at the nearest Sunflower > >> >> market which I ride to 1X a week or so. It's about as small as I can > >> >> make it without compromising use or (wrt lock) security, but at 3lb 3 > >> >> oz it's a lb heavier than a large Kryptonite. > > >> >> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:29 PM, JoelMatthews > >> wrote: > >> >> > Right crafty of you Patrick. Abus level security at a fraction of > >> the > >> >> > price. > > >> >> > I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out more rugged than many a > >> >> > rack or pole you attach it to. > > >> >> > The only thing more secure will be when someone figures out how to > >> >> > duplicate the alloy Predator used for its lances. As I recall in > >> >> > Predator 2 some scientist said it more hard than any known metal yet > >> >> > was remarkably light. > > >> >> > On Jan 28, 4:12 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> >> >> I have a $50 or so Krypto U lock that I bought a few months ago, but > >> >> >> after seeing the video I went to the nearby True Value and got a 20" > >> >> >> length of their "towing chain" and a bolt-cutter
Re: [RBW] Re: FYI about some green tweed country bags
I just asked the seller and he confirmed that it was one of the bags at the Rivendell garage sale in October. So I am seriously considering it or should I wait until Grant gets in the new bags? Ha-Ha Bruce On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:10 PM, benzzoy wrote: > If you're talking about eBay item #160538269691, I believe that's one > of those that were on sale at Riv's garage sale. > > The garage sale green tweed country bags have the dowel on the main > flap. The "normal" ones (which I have a copy but it's not in tweed) > has the dowel slightly further inside the bag, and not on the main > flap. In the second picture of the eBay auction, one can clearly see > that the dowel is on the flap and not hidden inside and behind the > secondary closure flaps with the bungee cord. > > I don't think it's really just an aesthetic difference. Having the > dowel on the main flap may introduce functional issues (minor or > otherwise) because the main attachment points of the bag are then > located on a moveable flap. That means some extra stress is put on > the main flaps quick-release tabs. OK, maybe it's not that bad since > the attachment points are really close to the pivot but it's certainly > not optimal. > > -B > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FYI about some green tweed country bags
It's not totally true they were only available at the garage sale. I purchased one right after they were found. Paid well above the price at the garage sale. And don't regret it one bit. It's a fine bag on my Sam Hillborne. Here's how it looks on the bike - http://tinyurl.com/6f2bbnc Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jan 30, 7:28 am, Bruce Baker wrote: > I just asked the seller and he confirmed that it was one of the bags at the > Rivendell garage sale in October. So I am seriously considering it or > should I wait until Grant gets in the new bags? Ha-Ha > Bruce > > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:10 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > If you're talking about eBay item #160538269691, I believe that's one > > of those that were on sale at Riv's garage sale. > > > The garage sale green tweed country bags have the dowel on the main > > flap. The "normal" ones (which I have a copy but it's not in tweed) > > has the dowel slightly further inside the bag, and not on the main > > flap. In the second picture of the eBay auction, one can clearly see > > that the dowel is on the flap and not hidden inside and behind the > > secondary closure flaps with the bungee cord. > > > I don't think it's really just an aesthetic difference. Having the > > dowel on the main flap may introduce functional issues (minor or > > otherwise) because the main attachment points of the bag are then > > located on a moveable flap. That means some extra stress is put on > > the main flaps quick-release tabs. OK, maybe it's not that bad since > > the attachment points are really close to the pivot but it's certainly > > not optimal. > > > -B > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: FYI about some green tweed country bags
Nice. If I win it will be going on a green Sam Hilborne!! On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:55 AM, EricP wrote: > It's not totally true they were only available at the garage sale. I > purchased one right after they were found. Paid well above the price > at the garage sale. And don't regret it one bit. It's a fine bag on > my Sam Hillborne. Here's how it looks on the bike - > http://tinyurl.com/6f2bbnc > > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Jan 30, 7:28 am, Bruce Baker wrote: > > I just asked the seller and he confirmed that it was one of the bags at > the > > Rivendell garage sale in October. So I am seriously considering it or > > should I wait until Grant gets in the new bags? Ha-Ha > > Bruce > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:10 PM, benzzoy wrote: > > > If you're talking about eBay item #160538269691, I believe that's one > > > of those that were on sale at Riv's garage sale. > > > > > The garage sale green tweed country bags have the dowel on the main > > > flap. The "normal" ones (which I have a copy but it's not in tweed) > > > has the dowel slightly further inside the bag, and not on the main > > > flap. In the second picture of the eBay auction, one can clearly see > > > that the dowel is on the flap and not hidden inside and behind the > > > secondary closure flaps with the bungee cord. > > > > > I don't think it's really just an aesthetic difference. Having the > > > dowel on the main flap may introduce functional issues (minor or > > > otherwise) because the main attachment points of the bag are then > > > located on a moveable flap. That means some extra stress is put on > > > the main flaps quick-release tabs. OK, maybe it's not that bad since > > > the attachment points are really close to the pivot but it's certainly > > > not optimal. > > > > > -B > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted > text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1/2 Off Rivendell Frame
But did he ride it home after he hit the bandsaw head-on? Gernot On Jan 30, 3:32 am, "Jim M." wrote: > I hadn't noticed this hanging on the RBW wall before: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5398473103/in/pool-rivendel... > > Note I didn't say 1/2 Off Frame for Sale. > > jim m > wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar mushing trail ride
Ha, I love your spirit, Ian! Here in the more "temperate" lattitudes I may just luck out today and get a ride on one of our own "mushy" trails, as the mercury is finally inching above freezing and the ice will turn to slush, glorious slush... (In all seriousness, there's nothing like riding on nicely packed snow at temps well below freezing. Great photos, thanks! Bobby "start burning the furniture, it's 20 degrees" Birmingham On Jan 30, 2:43 am, Ian Dickson wrote: > Thanks, Ryan. I love this kind of riding, when it isn't too cold. > One day I'll get a proper snow bike, but the Hunqapillar has been > great this winter. > > On Jan 29, 8:50 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > That looks F-U-N! Nice job on the bike too. > > > Ryan > > > On Jan 29, 8:52 pm, Ian Dickson wrote: > > > > We're having a nice warm spell in Fairbanks, so I took my Hunqapillar > > > out on the mushing trails for a couple of hours today. It was about > > > 0F, and the trails are well packed and very smooth. I expected to see > > > a ton of people, but only met two dog teams and one snow machine. > > > I'll get out earlier tomorrow, maybe make it out to Fox this time. > > > Posted some photos to flickr: > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/54529677@N07/sets/72157624965806797/ > > > > The moustache bars are the only big change in the bike. I like them > > > better than drops when I'm wearing mittens. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1/2 Off Rivendell Frame
A few name suggestions... (Grant, if you're listening...) Halfapillar Atla... Rambo'd SimpleHalf Don't worry, I won't quit my day job any time soon BB On Jan 30, 10:06 am, Earl Grey wrote: > But did he ride it home after he hit the bandsaw head-on? > > Gernot > > On Jan 30, 3:32 am, "Jim M." wrote: > > > > > I hadn't noticed this hanging on the RBW wall before: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5398473103/in/pool-rivendel... > > > Note I didn't say 1/2 Off Frame for Sale. > > > jim m > > wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I Got Your Pandas For You
From a Californians perspective those riding conditions look like...wait for it... a real bear. -JimD On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:00 PM Jan 29, 2011, Bill wrote: How about a Snow Panda in the wild ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsx1100g/5399511359/in/pool-1562320@N25/ On Jan 28, 11:28 pm, JimD wrote: Right here... Been pondering this Panda thing. Still not sure if I'm getting it. -JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis
I give up. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:23 PM, cm wrote: > I think there are too many unknowns here. All we get to do is look at > the finished frame and speculate as to the quality we cant see. We > don't get to see the tubes being mitered, prepped, brazed or anything > else until it is done. We don't know the brazers or the amount of time > they spend on each frame. I have no idea if the brazers at Toyo are as > good as the brazers at Waterford and how those compare to the Maxway > guys. Does anyone besides GP? So I take Riv's word that they are all > good. Sure my Bleriot is not as fancy as my wife's Ram but there is no > quality difference I can see and I have inspected the both pretty > closely. Are the lugs less fancy? Is the paint not quite as nicely > done? Yes and yes but I dont see those as quality differences in terms > of how well the bike is built. I do feel like there is value in buying > US made things, but after that it doesnt matter to me if they are made > in Japan or Taiwan. I think that someone in Taiwan can braze just as > well as someone in Japan who can braze just as well as someone in the > US. I think Rivendell oversold the fact that their frames were made at > Toyo and are having to overcome the idea that frames from other places > (excluding Waterfrod/US) are inferior. > > Cheers! > cm > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1/2 Off Rivendell Frame
And it's comparable in weight to a crabon-fiber frame now. On Jan 30, 7:42 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > A few name suggestions... (Grant, if you're listening...) > > Halfapillar > Atla... > Rambo'd > SimpleHalf > > Don't worry, I won't quit my day job any time soon > BB > > On Jan 30, 10:06 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > But did he ride it home after he hit the bandsaw head-on? > > > Gernot > > > On Jan 30, 3:32 am, "Jim M." wrote: > > > > I hadn't noticed this hanging on the RBW wall before: > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5398473103/in/pool-rivendel... > > > > Note I didn't say 1/2 Off Frame for Sale. > > > > jim m > > > wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mt Diablo S240 Report & Pics
Looks like a great ride. Glad I could help. jim m wc ca On Jan 29, 12:49 pm, EastBayGuy wrote: > Hi Y'all, > > Headed up to Mt Diablo on Thursday night for my first solo S240. Took > Fire Roads all the way to the top (Thank you Jim for the Heads up). It > was allot of hiking with the bike but the way down was a breeze. Just > picked up some new for 2011 47mm Marathons from Riv and they handled > beautifully on the trails. > > Here are some pics of the Trip. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/54527498@N06/sets/72157625807484627/detail/ > > Dustin G > > Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Knowledgeable Bike Shop Owner
I got a kick out of this Ebayer whose moniker implies that he/she is a Bike shop owner. He lists this Bleriot frame as an "early 80s" model! Wow! I am getting old! http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Bleriot-/260729673858?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3cb4b31882 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1/2 Off Rivendell Frame
I'll suggest a Hemicycle. michael On Jan 30, 10:42 am, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > A few name suggestions... (Grant, if you're listening...) > > Halfapillar > Atla... > Rambo'd > SimpleHalf > > Don't worry, I won't quit my day job any time soon > BB > > On Jan 30, 10:06 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > > But did he ride it home after he hit the bandsaw head-on? > > > Gernot > > > On Jan 30, 3:32 am, "Jim M." wrote: > > > > I hadn't noticed this hanging on the RBW wall before: > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5398473103/in/pool-rivendel... > > > > Note I didn't say 1/2 Off Frame for Sale. > > > > jim m > > > wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Knowledgeable Bike Shop Owner
Yeah, but have you ever seen a better name for a bike shop? Ryan On Jan 30, 10:31 am, Ray wrote: > I got a kick out of this Ebayer whose moniker implies that he/she is a > Bike shop owner. He lists this Bleriot frame as an "early 80s" > model! Wow! I am getting old! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Bleriot-/260729673858?pt=Road_Bikes&has... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shots of Emerald Green 2002 Riv Road
Absolutely beautiful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mt Diablo S240 Report & Pics
I started in Castle Rock Park in Walnut Creek. This leads to the Mount Diablo/Briones Trail Through some rolling hills to the beginning of Mt Diablo. You then Take Ridge Road all the way to Rock City. It was a great route and was absolute Beautiful weather for January. It is hard to believe that this is about a 30 minute ride out of the Suburbs and the hustle and bustle of everything. I do have to admit the way up was 65% Hiking with the Bike which I did not mind since the weather was so nice. From Castle Rock it took about 3 hours all the way up but only a nice hour down hill ride on Fire Roads on the way back. Highlight was seeing two Bobcats on the trail on the way back but I wasn't quick enough with the camera. It was a great trip and I can definitely see a RBW Group trip happening in the Spring if any one is interested??? Dustin Goodwin Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mt Diablo S240 Report & Pics
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:24 PM, EastBayGuy wrote: > > It was a great trip and I can definitely see a RBW Group trip > happening in the Spring if any one is interested??? Totally interested! -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 22 t inner chainring for Riv Road Frame?
On a couple of my Rivendell Frames, I have TA triples - - 24-36-46. I am thinking about changing the inner to a 22. Has anyone tried this? Is it workable? What is/are the critical measurements which I should check? just eyeballing it, it looks like a 22 might cut it kind of close to the bb shell. any experience or feedback much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Knowledgeable Bike Shop Owner
Actually I know this bike shop, and (although too embarrassed to admit) I recently recommended this shop to someone visiting Phoenix, where it's located. Aside from it being painfully obvious they have never sold (nor seen, apparently) a Rivendell, they are actually a really cool, well-outfitted shop... sans anything Riv-like On Jan 30, 1:51 pm, rcnute wrote: > Yeah, but have you ever seen a better name for a bike shop? > > Ryan > > On Jan 30, 10:31 am, Ray wrote: > > > > > I got a kick out of this Ebayer whose moniker implies that he/she is a > > Bike shop owner. He lists this Bleriot frame as an "early 80s" > > model! Wow! I am getting old! > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Bleriot-/260729673858?pt=Road_Bikes&has... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mt Diablo S240 Report & Pics
If it were first week of April, there's a good chance I'd travel to attend. On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:24 PM, EastBayGuy wrote: > >> >> It was a great trip and I can definitely see a RBW Group trip >> happening in the Spring if any one is interested??? > > Totally interested! > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > My hovercraft is full of eels > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar mushing trail ride
On Jan 29, 11:43 pm, Ian Dickson wrote: > Thanks, Ryan. I love this kind of riding, when it isn't too cold. > One day I'll get a proper snow bike, but the Hunqapillar has been > great this winter. It looks like a proper snow bike to me! I like the moustache bars w/ your Hunqapillar and the new edulux. Is that a tubus rack in the back? Good looking build. Ness -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 22 t inner chainring for Riv Road Frame?
TA Zephyr or Cyclotouriste crankset? On a Zephyr, I have a 22 right now. No problems. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:47 PM, reynoldslugs wrote: > On a couple of my Rivendell Frames, I have TA triples - - 24-36-46. > I am thinking about changing the inner to a 22. Has anyone tried > this? Is it workable? What is/are the critical measurements which I > should check? > > just eyeballing it, it looks like a 22 might cut it kind of close to > the bb shell. > > any experience or feedback much appreciated. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mt Diablo S240 Report & Pics
I'm very interested. -JimD Santa Clara, CA. On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:24 PM Jan 30, 2011, EastBayGuy wrote: I started in Castle Rock Park in Walnut Creek. This leads to the Mount Diablo/Briones Trail Through some rolling hills to the beginning of Mt Diablo. You then Take Ridge Road all the way to Rock City. It was a great route and was absolute Beautiful weather for January. It is hard to believe that this is about a 30 minute ride out of the Suburbs and the hustle and bustle of everything. I do have to admit the way up was 65% Hiking with the Bike which I did not mind since the weather was so nice. From Castle Rock it took about 3 hours all the way up but only a nice hour down hill ride on Fire Roads on the way back. Highlight was seeing two Bobcats on the trail on the way back but I wasn't quick enough with the camera. It was a great trip and I can definitely see a RBW Group trip happening in the Spring if any one is interested??? Dustin Goodwin Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv guys in Chiang-Mai
Here's a link to a dozen photos from the tour: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/sets/72157625816044561/ Just a quick sampler; didn't want to clutter things up with gratuitous pix of people you don't know & the ever-popular food photos. For real deal, get with Gernot & hop on a plane. Dec & Jan are the best months for cycle touring Thailand. dougP On Jan 27, 10:48 pm, James Warren wrote: > Gernot, > This would be awesome! I had the same thoughts when I was in Japan. I just > wanted a good bike to ride around, but the process of bringing one with me > seemed really difficult or expensive. > > Long Haul Truckers. That's what you should rent. And I wrote that before I > saw that you mentioned it in your post. > > To clarify, I don't have any plans on going to Thailand, but the idea in > general is something that I think would be appealing, and I completely agree > with you that tourers for rental is something that should exist. > > -Jim > > On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:37 PM, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > > > > Hearing Doug's and his friends' comments about their rental bikes (non > > functioning brakes, broken pawls on freewheels, road racing gearing, > > 25mm tires) makes me once again seriously consider starting a Bobish/ > > Rivish bike touring/bike rental company here in Thailand. > > > Thailand is fantastic for mixed surface riding: the road network is > > extensive enough (unlike in Laos or Cambodia, for example) that it is > > easy to avoid highways almost completely even for point to point > > travel, but a fair number of the minor roads still turn into dirt > > roads as they cross the hills, to turn back to good pavement on the > > other side. And of course the food is excellent, and accommodations > > are generally comfortable, available in almost any small town, and > > reasonable (a clean room for two with private bath is usually under > > $20). > > > Doing a rental business with Rivendells is probably not cost- > > effective, but how would a fleet of Surly LHTs appeal? I know I am not > > going to get rich with this scheme, but it seems like such a shame > > that one basically can't rent a good touring bike anywhere in the > > world, and Thailand is my favorite country so far for bike touring, > > having toured in California, Italy, Germany, Thailand and Japan. > > > Let me know if you might be interested in such a service. I would > > probably be offering plain bike rentals, rentals with custom route > > planning and GPS rental, as well as fully supported custom tours with > > accommodations and support vehicle. If I did this, I would start with > > 4-6 bikes, so I wouldn't be able to accommodate large groups at first. > > > Cheers, > > > Gernot > > > On Jan 27, 7:12 am, doug peterson wrote: > >> From a recent field survey, I can confirm there really are three (3) > >> Rivendell's in Thailand: > > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/33786397@N03/5391092687/ > > >> Paul, Gernot & Kip have posted info on their bikes and also think > >> there may be some Rivendells in Bangkok (if you're out there, let us > >> know!). We met at the end of my tour and was unfortunately too worn > >> out to go with them on their Sunday ride. > > >> Just completed 570 miles thru northern Thailand from Chiang-Rai to the > >> Mekong River, then along the border to the Golden Triangle (only got a > >> refrigerator magnet there, nothing stronger) and back to Chiang-Mai. > >> High point was Doi Mea-Salong (1,200m), the climb including long > >> stretches of 15-20% grades (one kick to 37%), requiring plenty of > >> hike'n'bike. Although intended to be a road tour, we got our share of > >> mixed surface in the form of multi-kilometer sections of road > >> construction (the clay is pretty good if dry; not so good when wet). > >> Conditions were generally good and drivers excellent. > > >> In an attempt to simplify logistics, the Atlantis stayed home & I used > >> a rental bike that proved over-geared and under maintained. However, > >> my trusty Baggins Bar Tube (never leave home without one) fits any > >> bike and keeps the camera and food at the ready. > > >> Thailand is truly a wonderful country with friendly people. With the > >> mix of city, country, mixed surfaces and challenging climbs, a Riv has > >> the versatility needed to enjoy this trip. > > >> dougP > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Mt Diablo S240 Report & Pics
If there's a big enough group, we can get a reservation for a group campground. Meet at RBW and ride from there, perhaps? On Jan 30, 2:18 pm, JimD wrote: > I'm very interested. > > -JimD > Santa Clara, CA. > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:24 PM Jan 30, 2011, EastBayGuy wrote: > > > I started in Castle Rock Park in Walnut Creek. This leads to the Mount > > Diablo/Briones Trail Through some rolling hills to the beginning of Mt > > Diablo. You then Take Ridge Road all the way to Rock City. > > > It was a great route and was absolute Beautiful weather for January. > > It is hard to believe that this is about a 30 minute ride out of the > > Suburbs and the hustle and bustle of everything. > > > I do have to admit the way up was 65% Hiking with the Bike which I > > did not mind since the weather was so nice. From Castle Rock it took > > about 3 hours all the way up but only a nice hour down hill ride on > > Fire Roads on the way back. Highlight was seeing two Bobcats on the > > trail on the way back but I wasn't quick enough with the camera. > > > It was a great trip and I can definitely see a RBW Group trip > > happening in the Spring if any one is interested??? > > > Dustin Goodwin > > > Walnut Creek Ca > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Knowledgeable Bike Shop Owner
Either this guy is a list member, or someone tipped him off, because he changed the ad to read "early to mid 2000s." Gotta love the Internet! From: Ray To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 10:31:23 AM Subject: [RBW] Knowledgeable Bike Shop Owner I got a kick out of this Ebayer whose moniker implies that he/she is a Bike shop owner. He lists this Bleriot frame as an "early 80s" model! Wow! I am getting old! http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Bleriot-/260729673858?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3cb4b31882 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 64 CM Bombadil looks small....
With me on it.. :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5401821563/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shots of Emerald Green 2002 Riv Road
Somenhow this all works for me. On Jan 30, 2:05 pm, Mike Irwin wrote: > Absolutely beautiful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.
Thomas Friedman may have not been able to say it better, but there is some room for him to live it better... http://tinyurl.com/kjnlao (Friedman's Mansion built on his wife's MegaMall inheritance) be the change you wish to see. On Jan 27, 8:06 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Thomas Friedman couldn't have said it better... In fact (in Hot, Flat > and Crowded) he takes several pages to say as much... A real eye- > opener indeed... Perhaps we need to consume far less of everything, > and HOPE (and PRAY) the rest of the developing world still aspires to > emulate us... But I digress. I sure would like a second Riv... > > On Jan 27, 4:17 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > I agree, the drag on my SON is non-noticeable and even that on the > > Shimanos is non-noticeable. And hub dynos are so *cool*! -- regardless > > of utility. (I remember an early, bike-accessory splurge, about age 12 > > or 13, Delhi, circa 1968, a cheap (but shiny!) bottle and headlight > > and tail lamp combo, all chromed! Largely useless as I didn't ride at > > night except to test out the dynamo. And the drag was so bad I shortly > > got rid of it.) > > > As for our post-petroleum future, I am not sanguine about > > electrical-ization, nyuculer power, wind energy or solar bliss. Ponder > > this: we USers use some huge % of the world's resources -- note, this > > is not a moral judgment, just a statement of fact. We get away with it > > because we have a huge country hugely gifted in natural resources and > > a small, relatively, population -- and yes, dammit, I am proud to be > > an American, even though I know we live far too large. Now: we want to > > export our American Way of Life to alla the resta the world -- 3 suvs, > > 3600 faux Tuscan villa on 1/8 acre, giant LED screens in every room, > > air conditioning to make indoor temps different from outside temps by > > 40 degrees all the time, piles of cheap Chinese made electronic junk > > cheaply shipped from China, travel to Bahamas at each quarterly > > vacation. So, 1.5B Chinese, 1.2B Indians and untold billions of others > > are yearning to imitate what they see on TV etc of our life. They try > > hard and begin to succeed. What then? Can you follow these thoughts to > > their expected conclusion? Few seem to want to think this out -- or > > else take for granted that billions will continue to rest content with > > the scraps we throw them as cheap labor for our cheap and affordable > > large living. No, we are in for a change. > > > Someone asked Gandhi, "What do you think of western civilization?" He > > replied, "I think it would be a good idea." > > > Patrick "when the apocalypse comes, I am doomed because my Rivs won't > > take more than 35s" Moore > > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:04 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > >> Personally I think a dyno hub is always a good idea, regardless of > > >> season. In the summer (even with long days) it simply extends your > > >> riding and removes daylight limitations... As far as the idea of a > > >> "clutch" mechanism > > > > IMO, the clutch mechanism dynohub is a solution looking for a > > > problem. The drag on my SON hub bikes is so minimal I never notice > > > it. > > > > The clutch dyno will almost certainly have more moving parts than a > > > SON. Maybe it should not be this way, but seems the more components > > > that make up a product, the more chance the product will malfunction. > > > Add to the mix this particular company is looking to compete pricewise > > > with the entry level dynos. > > > > Time will tell, but I smell a bust. > > > > On Jan 27, 11:10 am, Montclair BobbyB > > > wrote: > > >> Personally I think a dyno hub is always a good idea, regardless of > > >> season. In the summer (even with long days) it simply extends your > > >> riding and removes daylight limitations... As far as the idea of a > > >> "clutch" mechanism, I haven't been able to noticeably detect drag on > > >> any of the dynamo hubs I've ridden (Schmidt, Shimano, SRAM and Sturmey- > > >> Archer). Then again, I'm not a go-fast rider, nor particularly > > >> sensitive to riding subtleties, so it would take major drag before I'd > > >> begin to notice it... not to say others won't feel it... I simply seem > > >> to be insensitive to it. > > > >> Peace, > > >> Bobby "Ain't feelin' the drag" Birmingham > > > >> On Jan 27, 4:43 am, charlie wrote: > > > >> > I'm looking to get one of the new dyno hubs but can't seem to get a > > >> > firm price. I'd even pay in advance. It will be getting lighter out > > >> > soon so it might be moot for me to even have one until next fall. > > >> > Seems like the timing is a little off on these. > > >> > Bikes and cars yea.what a long discussion all that was, what with > > >> > "being green" and all..I say its all hogwash. If we do run out of > > >> > fossil fuels you can kiss our roadways goodbye we'll all be walking > > >> > like Grok eventually and society will be back in the stone age. The > > >> > fact is, we
[RBW] Ride report: 100 km ride from the Burmese border to Chiang Rai, Thailand
Paul and I headed up to the Burmese border on Saturday to renew our Thai visas. These border runs are a boring fact of life for many foreigners in Chiang Mai, who take the morning bus up to the border (5-6 hrs), cross the border, have lunch, and take the afternoon bus back to Chiang Mai. I always bring my bike and stay overnight and find an interesting way to ride to Chiang Rai, a third of the way back to Chiang Mai. This time I brought Paul along as well, for an all-Sam, mixed terrain, find- the-smallest-roads-and-dirt-tracks-we-can, riding adventure. My photos start here: www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ Paul's photos start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157625812729019/with/5401319302/ Btw, I planned the route with www.ridewithgps.com (which uses Google maps) and uploaded it to my GPS. Otherwise it would be impossible to do such a route in unfamiliar territory and make it to your destination in time to catch a bus. Google maps and my GPS map are often wrong about the tiny side roads in Thailand, but with a planned route and a GPS to re-orient yourself when the road you were planning to take doesn't exist, it's just the right mixture of adventure and predictability for me. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride report: 100 km ride from the Burmese border to Chiang Rai, Thailand
Try this link instead for my photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ (or remove the www.google.com from the URL that google inserts for some strange reason) On Jan 31, 10:28 am, Earl Grey wrote: > Paul and I headed up to the Burmese border on Saturday to renew our > Thai visas. These border runs are a boring fact of life for many > foreigners in Chiang Mai, who take the morning bus up to the border > (5-6 hrs), cross the border, have lunch, and take the afternoon bus > back to Chiang Mai. > > I always bring my bike and stay overnight and find an interesting way > to ride to Chiang Rai, a third of the way back to Chiang Mai. This > time I brought Paul along as well, for an all-Sam, mixed terrain, find- > the-smallest-roads-and-dirt-tracks-we-can, riding adventure. > > My photos start here:www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > Paul's photos start > here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157625812729019/with/5... > > Btw, I planned the route withwww.ridewithgps.com(which uses Google > maps) and uploaded it to my GPS. Otherwise it would be impossible to > do such a route in unfamiliar territory and make it to your > destination in time to catch a bus. Google maps and my GPS map are > often wrong about the tiny side roads in Thailand, but with a planned > route and a GPS to re-orient yourself when the road you were planning > to take doesn't exist, it's just the right mixture of adventure and > predictability for me. > > Cheers, > > Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride report: 100 km ride from the Burmese border to Chiang Rai, Thailand
Dude, where's the ride report? It's in the descriptions of the photos. :) Here is the executive summary: We took a bus up from Chiang Mai to the border (4+ hrs), stayed in a little guesthouse right on the border- defining River Sai, got up at 6:30 to cross the border, have breakfast in Burma and explore the border town a bit (not allowed to leave town on the on-the-spot visa), re-crossed the border and headed south towards Chiang Rai (60 km as the pick-up drives, 100 km as the passhunter rides), to catch a bus back to Chiang Mai. Once out of town, we headed through a plain of rice paddies on increasingly smaller roads, with Doi Tung towering 1000m over the plain to the West. Around midday we started into the hills that separate the Mae Sai valley from the Chiang Rai valley, and had a fun time finding the dirt tracks that actually went to where we were going. Asking the locals is not always that helpful, as invariably they will tell you how to get back to the main highway that leads to your destination, NOT the direct route, as they (understandably) assume you are lost, and assume you would have no chance of finding your way through the hills on your own. Once we got out of the hills, we realized that time was running short, and we decided to kick it into high gear and cut to the main highway so we could catch our bus. Our mad, hour-long 30 kph dash--fueled by Gatoraid from a 7-Eleven and emergency ration gummies--paid off as we got to the station in time for a quick bite of restorative soup noodles before hopping back on the bus for the 3 hr ride home. Cheers, Gernot On Jan 31, 10:30 am, Earl Grey wrote: > Try this link instead for my > photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > (or remove thewww.google.comfrom the URL that google inserts for > some strange reason) > > On Jan 31, 10:28 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > > Paul and I headed up to the Burmese border on Saturday to renew our > > Thai visas. These border runs are a boring fact of life for many > > foreigners in Chiang Mai, who take the morning bus up to the border > > (5-6 hrs), cross the border, have lunch, and take the afternoon bus > > back to Chiang Mai. > > > I always bring my bike and stay overnight and find an interesting way > > to ride to Chiang Rai, a third of the way back to Chiang Mai. This > > time I brought Paul along as well, for an all-Sam, mixed terrain, find- > > the-smallest-roads-and-dirt-tracks-we-can, riding adventure. > > > My photos start here:www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > > Paul's photos start > > here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157625812729019/with/5... > > > Btw, I planned the route withwww.ridewithgps.com(whichuses Google > > maps) and uploaded it to my GPS. Otherwise it would be impossible to > > do such a route in unfamiliar territory and make it to your > > destination in time to catch a bus. Google maps and my GPS map are > > often wrong about the tiny side roads in Thailand, but with a planned > > route and a GPS to re-orient yourself when the road you were planning > > to take doesn't exist, it's just the right mixture of adventure and > > predictability for me. > > > Cheers, > > > Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride report: 100 km ride from the Burmese border to Chiang Rai, Thailand
I really enjoy hearing about your far-flung Riv adventures. We only have coyotes around here (occasional mountain lion). Do you have to worry about tigers on your S24O's? jim m suburban california On Jan 30, 7:52 pm, Earl Grey wrote: > Dude, where's the ride report? It's in the descriptions of the > photos. :) > > Here is the executive summary: We took a bus up from Chiang Mai to the > border (4+ hrs), stayed in a little guesthouse right on the border- > defining River Sai, got up at 6:30 to cross the border, have breakfast > in Burma and explore the border town a bit (not allowed to leave town > on the on-the-spot visa), re-crossed the border and headed south > towards Chiang Rai (60 km as the pick-up drives, 100 km as the > passhunter rides), to catch a bus back to Chiang Mai. Once out of > town, we headed through a plain of rice paddies on increasingly > smaller roads, with Doi Tung towering 1000m over the plain to the > West. Around midday we started into the hills that separate the Mae > Sai valley from the Chiang Rai valley, and had a fun time finding the > dirt tracks that actually went to where we were going. Asking the > locals is not always that helpful, as invariably they will tell you > how to get back to the main highway that leads to your destination, > NOT the direct route, as they (understandably) assume you are lost, > and assume you would have no chance of finding your way through the > hills on your own. > > Once we got out of the hills, we realized that time was running short, > and we decided to kick it into high gear and cut to the main highway > so we could catch our bus. Our mad, hour-long 30 kph dash--fueled by > Gatoraid from a 7-Eleven and emergency ration gummies--paid off as we > got to the station in time for a quick bite of restorative soup > noodles before hopping back on the bus for the 3 hr ride home. > > Cheers, > > Gernot > > On Jan 31, 10:30 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > Try this link instead for my > > photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > > (or remove thewww.google.comfromthe URL that google inserts for > > some strange reason) > > > On Jan 31, 10:28 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > Paul and I headed up to the Burmese border on Saturday to renew our > > > Thai visas. These border runs are a boring fact of life for many > > > foreigners in Chiang Mai, who take the morning bus up to the border > > > (5-6 hrs), cross the border, have lunch, and take the afternoon bus > > > back to Chiang Mai. > > > > I always bring my bike and stay overnight and find an interesting way > > > to ride to Chiang Rai, a third of the way back to Chiang Mai. This > > > time I brought Paul along as well, for an all-Sam, mixed terrain, find- > > > the-smallest-roads-and-dirt-tracks-we-can, riding adventure. > > > > My photos start here:www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > > > Paul's photos start > > > here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157625812729019/with/5... > > > > Btw, I planned the route withwww.ridewithgps.com(whichusesGoogle > > > maps) and uploaded it to my GPS. Otherwise it would be impossible to > > > do such a route in unfamiliar territory and make it to your > > > destination in time to catch a bus. Google maps and my GPS map are > > > often wrong about the tiny side roads in Thailand, but with a planned > > > route and a GPS to re-orient yourself when the road you were planning > > > to take doesn't exist, it's just the right mixture of adventure and > > > predictability for me. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride report: 100 km ride from the Burmese border to Chiang Rai, Thailand
I wish. It's unlikely there are any left in the wild in Thailand. There are some pretty cool birds (Hornbills, Barbets) but not too many sightings of large mammals. You do see elephants occasionally, but they are domesticated. There are some left in the wild, but in very remote regions. Gernot On Jan 31, 10:58 am, "Jim M." wrote: > I really enjoy hearing about your far-flung Riv adventures. We only > have coyotes around here (occasional mountain lion). Do you have to > worry about tigers on your S24O's? > > jim m > suburban california > > On Jan 30, 7:52 pm, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > > Dude, where's the ride report? It's in the descriptions of the > > photos. :) > > > Here is the executive summary: We took a bus up from Chiang Mai to the > > border (4+ hrs), stayed in a little guesthouse right on the border- > > defining River Sai, got up at 6:30 to cross the border, have breakfast > > in Burma and explore the border town a bit (not allowed to leave town > > on the on-the-spot visa), re-crossed the border and headed south > > towards Chiang Rai (60 km as the pick-up drives, 100 km as the > > passhunter rides), to catch a bus back to Chiang Mai. Once out of > > town, we headed through a plain of rice paddies on increasingly > > smaller roads, with Doi Tung towering 1000m over the plain to the > > West. Around midday we started into the hills that separate the Mae > > Sai valley from the Chiang Rai valley, and had a fun time finding the > > dirt tracks that actually went to where we were going. Asking the > > locals is not always that helpful, as invariably they will tell you > > how to get back to the main highway that leads to your destination, > > NOT the direct route, as they (understandably) assume you are lost, > > and assume you would have no chance of finding your way through the > > hills on your own. > > > Once we got out of the hills, we realized that time was running short, > > and we decided to kick it into high gear and cut to the main highway > > so we could catch our bus. Our mad, hour-long 30 kph dash--fueled by > > Gatoraid from a 7-Eleven and emergency ration gummies--paid off as we > > got to the station in time for a quick bite of restorative soup > > noodles before hopping back on the bus for the 3 hr ride home. > > > Cheers, > > > Gernot > > > On Jan 31, 10:30 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > Try this link instead for my > > > photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > > > (or remove thewww.google.comfromtheURL that google inserts for > > > some strange reason) > > > > On Jan 31, 10:28 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > > Paul and I headed up to the Burmese border on Saturday to renew our > > > > Thai visas. These border runs are a boring fact of life for many > > > > foreigners in Chiang Mai, who take the morning bus up to the border > > > > (5-6 hrs), cross the border, have lunch, and take the afternoon bus > > > > back to Chiang Mai. > > > > > I always bring my bike and stay overnight and find an interesting way > > > > to ride to Chiang Rai, a third of the way back to Chiang Mai. This > > > > time I brought Paul along as well, for an all-Sam, mixed terrain, find- > > > > the-smallest-roads-and-dirt-tracks-we-can, riding adventure. > > > > > My photos start here:www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > > > > Paul's photos start > > > > here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157625812729019/with/5... > > > > > Btw, I planned the route withwww.ridewithgps.com(whichusesGoogle > > > > maps) and uploaded it to my GPS. Otherwise it would be impossible to > > > > do such a route in unfamiliar territory and make it to your > > > > destination in time to catch a bus. Google maps and my GPS map are > > > > often wrong about the tiny side roads in Thailand, but with a planned > > > > route and a GPS to re-orient yourself when the road you were planning > > > > to take doesn't exist, it's just the right mixture of adventure and > > > > predictability for me. > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride report: 100 km ride from the Burmese border to Chiang Rai, Thailand
Awesome photos Gernot! And by far the best collection of photos I've ever had of me on a bike - thank you! :D What a great trip - anyone lucky enough to have Gernot as their trip planner is in for a very cool time. Perfect opportunities to use the Riv - where the road bike wouldn't have made it and the mountain bike would have been too uncomfortable. Much credit to Riv for building these amazingly comfortable and versatile touring machines! On Jan 31, 11:39 am, Earl Grey wrote: > I wish. It's unlikely there are any left in the wild in Thailand. > There are some pretty cool birds (Hornbills, Barbets) but not too many > sightings of large mammals. You do see elephants occasionally, but > they are domesticated. There are some left in the wild, but in very > remote regions. > > Gernot > > On Jan 31, 10:58 am, "Jim M." wrote: > > > > > I really enjoy hearing about your far-flung Riv adventures. We only > > have coyotes around here (occasional mountain lion). Do you have to > > worry about tigers on your S24O's? > > > jim m > > suburban california > > > On Jan 30, 7:52 pm, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > Dude, where's the ride report? It's in the descriptions of the > > > photos. :) > > > > Here is the executive summary: We took a bus up from Chiang Mai to the > > > border (4+ hrs), stayed in a little guesthouse right on the border- > > > defining River Sai, got up at 6:30 to cross the border, have breakfast > > > in Burma and explore the border town a bit (not allowed to leave town > > > on the on-the-spot visa), re-crossed the border and headed south > > > towards Chiang Rai (60 km as the pick-up drives, 100 km as the > > > passhunter rides), to catch a bus back to Chiang Mai. Once out of > > > town, we headed through a plain of rice paddies on increasingly > > > smaller roads, with Doi Tung towering 1000m over the plain to the > > > West. Around midday we started into the hills that separate the Mae > > > Sai valley from the Chiang Rai valley, and had a fun time finding the > > > dirt tracks that actually went to where we were going. Asking the > > > locals is not always that helpful, as invariably they will tell you > > > how to get back to the main highway that leads to your destination, > > > NOT the direct route, as they (understandably) assume you are lost, > > > and assume you would have no chance of finding your way through the > > > hills on your own. > > > > Once we got out of the hills, we realized that time was running short, > > > and we decided to kick it into high gear and cut to the main highway > > > so we could catch our bus. Our mad, hour-long 30 kph dash--fueled by > > > Gatoraid from a 7-Eleven and emergency ration gummies--paid off as we > > > got to the station in time for a quick bite of restorative soup > > > noodles before hopping back on the bus for the 3 hr ride home. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Gernot > > > > On Jan 31, 10:30 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > > Try this link instead for my > > > > photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > > > > (or remove thewww.google.comfromtheURLthat google inserts for > > > > some strange reason) > > > > > On Jan 31, 10:28 am, Earl Grey wrote: > > > > > > Paul and I headed up to the Burmese border on Saturday to renew our > > > > > Thai visas. These border runs are a boring fact of life for many > > > > > foreigners in Chiang Mai, who take the morning bus up to the border > > > > > (5-6 hrs), cross the border, have lunch, and take the afternoon bus > > > > > back to Chiang Mai. > > > > > > I always bring my bike and stay overnight and find an interesting way > > > > > to ride to Chiang Rai, a third of the way back to Chiang Mai. This > > > > > time I brought Paul along as well, for an all-Sam, mixed terrain, > > > > > find- > > > > > the-smallest-roads-and-dirt-tracks-we-can, riding adventure. > > > > > > My photos start here:www.flickr.com/photos/25150892@N08/5402500499/ > > > > > > Paul's photos start > > > > > here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157625812729019/with/5... > > > > > > Btw, I planned the route withwww.ridewithgps.com(whichusesGoogle > > > > > maps) and uploaded it to my GPS. Otherwise it would be impossible to > > > > > do such a route in unfamiliar territory and make it to your > > > > > destination in time to catch a bus. Google maps and my GPS map are > > > > > often wrong about the tiny side roads in Thailand, but with a planned > > > > > route and a GPS to re-orient yourself when the road you were planning > > > > > to take doesn't exist, it's just the right mixture of adventure and > > > > > predictability for me. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/r
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar mushing trail ride
grrlyrida: Yes, it's a Tubus Cosmo. I'm pretty much sold on Tubus for rear racks. The Nokians are great on packed trails, but they bog down in soft stuff. I've done a fair amount of walking this winter. I would love to get a Pugsley-style bike, when the budget allows. Ian On Jan 30, 12:02 pm, grrlyrida wrote: > On Jan 29, 11:43 pm, Ian Dickson wrote: > > > Thanks, Ryan. I love this kind of riding, when it isn't too cold. > > One day I'll get a proper snow bike, but the Hunqapillar has been > > great this winter. > > It looks like a proper snow bike to me! I like the moustache bars w/ > your Hunqapillar and the new edulux. > > Is that a tubus rack in the back? > > Good looking build. > > Ness -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Heron Road
Just found my best Craigslist score ever. Photos tomorrow. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Heron Road
If it's this: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/2188933678.html and you got it for that, you are one happy guy! Brian - dejected in Seattle On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:01 PM, rcnute wrote: > Just found my best Craigslist score ever. Photos tomorrow. > > Ryan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heron Road
When we met I told him he'd better pull the ad before his phone started ringing off the hook with calls from bike weirdos throughout the nation. I tend to catch and release, so you can be first in line if it ever needs a new home. Ryan On Jan 30, 11:11 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > If it's this:http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/2188933678.htmland you > got it for that, you are one happy guy! > > Brian - dejected in Seattle > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:01 PM, rcnute wrote: > > Just found my best Craigslist score ever. Photos tomorrow. > > > Ryan > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.
Ye speak the truth and I suppose the durability of concrete also depends on the climate and vegetation to some degree not to mention the quality of concrete. Speaking of lighter modes of transit, I've always thought it would be cool to have a velomobile with and electric assist being that I am 25 miles of hilly commute away from work. Its always baffled me why single occupant autos aren't made and sold that are lighter and smaller, especially since hardly anyone drives to work with passengers. I do commute by bicycle in fair weather but find it difficult to do so on a regular basis due to distance, traffic, terrain, time, bad weather, age and recovery capability. I think I need a Rivendell bicycle and some of that awesome rain gear too! Now I start my plan to convince my wife... On Jan 29, 3:31 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > > At what cost though ? Concrete cracks and weathers and weeds grow > > through it just as it does with asphalt. It costs quite a bit to > > maintain roadways. > > A United States spending less money spent on autos and sending less > money overseas for oil has the money to build better roads for lighter > modes of transit with much left over for the bank. > > > Have you ever watched any of those ridiculous doomsday movies that show how > > New York city would look > > after 1000 years, its amazing what doesn't survive the elements and > > the test of time > > No, but I have seen the 2000 year old Roman water reservoir outside > Napoli with cement so intact it could still hold thousands of gallons > of water if it were not such a popular tourist attraction. Same trip > I walked over the Pons Fabricus (~2,050 years old) and the Pons Aelius > (Ponte St.'Angelo ~1,990) bridges in Roma both of which are still in > everyday use. Just sayin' Cheers! > > On Jan 28, 11:29 pm, charlie wrote: > > > At what cost though ? Concrete cracks and weathers and weeds grow > > through it just as it does with asphalt. It costs quite a bit to > > maintain roadways.less autos = less money for maintenance= > > more bicycles with wide tires ! Have you ever watched any of those > > ridiculous doomsday movies that show how New York city would look > > after 1000 years, its amazing what doesn't survive the elements and > > the test of time. Just sayin ! cheers : ) > > > On Jan 28, 6:21 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > This is part of where I was coming from in that road maintenance can't > > > > be done without petroleum, at least not good asphalt. And boy do we > > > > bicyclists love a good road surface. > > > > Flat out wrong. > > > > If there were fewer vehicles, we would not need as many streets/roads > > > and those we would have would be subject to less stress. Ergo, we > > > could use hardened cement which when done right is both more cush to > > > ride on and durable than cheapo asphalt streets. > > > > On Jan 27, 8:51 pm, charlie wrote: > > > > > This is part of where I was coming from in that road maintenance can't > > > > be done without petroleum, at least not good asphalt. And boy do we > > > > bicyclists love a good road surface.Taking things to the extreme also > > > > stirs thought and responses so...following the Grok idea to the > > > > extreme would lead to the most "green" way of life. Talk about low > > > > impact on the environment. > > > > I am aware that transitions from a sophisticated society to a > > > > primitive one are slower under normal circumstances. I often think of > > > > the ancient Egyptians, do we really know how technologically advanced > > > > they were? How much do we know of their understanding of medicine and > > > > science etc. ? How much information has survived of other ancient > > > > cultures and how sophisticated were they really? > > > > As an aside we've been on the paleolithic diet for a few weeks, more > > > > or less and its making a difference and I hope it will pay off when I > > > > bicycle. I'm definitely "down with" going electric, automobile wise > > > > also and may even try a motor on a cargo bike some day since I am a > > > > full 25 miles from the big city. > > > > What does this shotgun approach to posting have to do with Rivendell ? > > > > It seems Grant writes about stuff like this and I enjoy it when he > > > > does. One thing I do know is that I can hardly wait to get a dyno hub > > > > and generate my own electricity while bicycling. > > > > > On Jan 27, 6:08 pm, benzzoy wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 27, 10:54 am, robert zeidler wrote: > > > > > > > My brother, you paint too gloomy a picture. If we run out of fossil > > > > > > fuels-there's more than one way skin a cat. All cars, trucks, > > > > > > trains > > > > > > (don't know about planes) will be electric, so buy GE stock early. > > > > > > You seem to only acknowledge that oil is for burning. However, oil is > > > > > used for far more than burning for energy to power our cars, make > > > > > electricity, etc. For example, almost all plastic and rubber is
