Re: [RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/14/10 10:52 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Cyclofiend Translation Services Initiated!
> 
> When Jim says 5/8", he means 9/16"
> 
> Cyclofiend Translation Services Terminated!

(doh!)

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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Let's try this again (hit send too soon).

I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in.
Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to
contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is closest
to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I can remove the
rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring.  Eliminates rattle and
paper clip is no longer needed.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Clayton Scott  wrote:

> I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in.
> I use a rubber O-ring inbetween the center tube one the tube attached to the
> bag that is on the bent end (if that makes sense). Eliminates rattle and
> pape rclip is no longer needed.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM, William  wrote:
>
>> I have a buddy who makes really nice handlebar bags.  Pretty similar
>> to Ostrich.  I picked up a couple from him, and despite the cost of
>> the bags and the front rack, for some strange psychological reason I
>> couldn't talk myself into pulling the trigger on a decaleuruntil
>> now.  I just got in a very slick Gilles Berthoud decaleur.  I'm going
>> to set it up on my Hilsen as soon as I can get around to it.  I was
>> surprised that there does not appear to be a single youtube how-to
>> video with 'decaleur' as a tag, so maybe I'll video my work, too.
>>
>> Are there any warnings to setting up a Berthoud decaleur?
>>
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Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/14/10 6:08 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J at thomas.alling...@skadden.com
wrote:

> At the New Jersey Shore, salt air started to do a number on the raw clearcoat
> on my Bombadil in under a year.  Riv was great about it, of course.

There is a difference between "clear coat" and the "clear powdercoat"
process.  The clear coat is porous, but the clear powdercoat method is
_supposed_ to not be.

Or at least be as rugged as a colored powdercoat - but that is anecdotal -
can't address Jeremy's question comparing pigmented and clear powdercoats.

- J

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[RBW] Re: anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread William
Maybe there's been a product upgradeinstead of a paper clip, mine
came with a safety pin!  :P

Clayton, I think I get your O-ring comment.  I'll give it some
thought.

On Nov 15, 2:11 pm, Clayton Scott  wrote:
> I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in.
> I use a rubber O-ring inbetween the center tube one the tube attached to the
> bag that is on the bent end (if that makes sense). Eliminates rattle and
> pape rclip is no longer needed.
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM, William  wrote:
> > I have a buddy who makes really nice handlebar bags.  Pretty similar
> > to Ostrich.  I picked up a couple from him, and despite the cost of
> > the bags and the front rack, for some strange psychological reason I
> > couldn't talk myself into pulling the trigger on a decaleuruntil
> > now.  I just got in a very slick Gilles Berthoud decaleur.  I'm going
> > to set it up on my Hilsen as soon as I can get around to it.  I was
> > surprised that there does not appear to be a single youtube how-to
> > video with 'decaleur' as a tag, so maybe I'll video my work, too.
>
> > Are there any warnings to setting up a Berthoud decaleur?
>
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[RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread William
I know "Read what I MEAN, not what I TYPE!"



On Nov 15, 2:12 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 11/14/10 10:52 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Cyclofiend Translation Services Initiated!
>
> > When Jim says 5/8", he means 9/16"
>
> > Cyclofiend Translation Services Terminated!
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> (doh!)
>
> Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread JB
I ride whatever I have on.  I've found that any minor difference in
the feel is more than made up for taking the time to decide which shoe
to wear.  So, I don't try to decide and just go ride.

John

On Nov 15, 1:11 pm, William  wrote:
> I use some of everything.
>
> Sidi Genius and Speedplay lollipop pedals.  Currently on my gofast.  I
> like them very much for riding.  They are among the worst ever for
> putting one's foot down
>
> Shimano treaded road shoes and Shimano Mountain shoes with Old
> generation Shimano SPD pedals (2 pairs of 747's and even a pair or two
> of 737s).  I use these a lot.  I use them for mountain riding, and
> have them currently on the Hilsen, and on the tandem.
>
> Sidi Cyclocross shoes without cleats.  Detto Cyclocross shoes without
> cleats.  MKS Sylvan and Suntour Sprint toe clip and strap pedals.  I
> don't have these on any bike right now, but I use them frequently on
> the gofast when I tire of the stupid walking characteristics of the
> lollipop cleats.  The Detto Shoes are NOS and need some breaking in,
> before I decide on some custom outsole mods that I want my cobbler to
> do for me.  Maybe those will go back on soon...
>
> Grip King (supremes!) and Sneaker pedals with nearly every shoe I own,
> including Vans, Puma Slip ons, Adidas Sambas, and leather dress
> shoes.  The only thing that I find that bugs me is that some shoes
> have a taller stack up than others.  The Clarks I have on right now
> make my saddle feel a few mm too low.
>
> I have some cheap Adidas SPD shoes and a few pairs of cheap wellgo/
> Ritchey pedals, but I don't use those really at all anymore.  They
> work fine, though, especially the pedals.
>
> On Nov 15, 9:26 am, Rene Sterental  wrote:
>
> > I use the se for mountain biking on my dual suspension. Want to be
> > firmly engaged to the bike when it's bouncing all over the place or
> > when struggling to keep pushing on a very steep uphill.
>
> > Cannot stand being clipped on the Rivendells and love the ability to
> > move my foot around and find the sweet spot for no pain!
>
> > René
>
> > Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> > On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > I'll buck the trend... I love my SPD Specialied MTB shoes with the
> > > varus wedge design. Since I found these about 7-8 years ago I've used
> > > nothing else for a serious ride. B4 that I always had inside knee
> > > soreness on long rides.
>
> > > Around town I use my Chacos sandals.
>
> > > ~Mike~
>
> > > On Nov 15, 7:46 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > >> Question 'bout clip 'n' strap pedals: one reason I changed back to
> > >> clipless is that, at least on the narrow RX-1 and Wellgo track pedals
> > >> I was using, my feet would migrate sideways and end up rubbing
> > >> (especally my right foot bunion) on the admittedly very straight
> > >> up-and-down Cyclotourist and Stronglight cranks; this happened both
> > >> with my Rivat cleated shoes and the street shoes I wore. The only clip
> > >> and strap pedals that avoided this problem are the MKS touring pedals,
> > >> but as wide as they are, and with the spindle so offset to the
> > >> outside, they considerably augment the Q. Does anyone else using clips
> > >> and straps have this problem? My feet are not that wide (well, the
> > >> bunion is wide, but I had the same issue with my left foot) and only
> > >> size 10/44. And, the RX-1s had little tabs in the inside to keep the
> > >> strap in place, too.
>
> > >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Ginz  wrote:
> > >>> Gola Harriers in Suede.  They are indoor soccer shoes, similar in
> > >>> style to the Adidas Samba but with a durable suede upper and trendy
> > >>> good looks. :)
>
> > >>> They are narrow.  So, wider feet need not bother.  However, they work
> > >>> well on the narrowest track pedals and toe clips.  Difficult to find
> > >>> in the USA, best to order directly from the USA Gola Store.
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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:16 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
> Let's try this again (hit send too soon).
> 
> 
> I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the
> rod in.
> Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to
> contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is
> closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I
> can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring.
> Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed.

A circular Clippiola paper clip does the same thing.




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Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread erik jensen
rust never sleeps!

i'm of the understanding that most any powdercoating will admit of some
degree of rust over time, all things equal. i wouldn't worry about it.

~erik

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM, CycloFiend wrote:

> on 11/14/10 6:08 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J at
> thomas.alling...@skadden.com
> wrote:
>
> > At the New Jersey Shore, salt air started to do a number on the raw
> clearcoat
> > on my Bombadil in under a year.  Riv was great about it, of course.
>
> There is a difference between "clear coat" and the "clear powdercoat"
> process.  The clear coat is porous, but the clear powdercoat method is
> _supposed_ to not be.
>
> Or at least be as rugged as a colored powdercoat - but that is anecdotal -
> can't address Jeremy's question comparing pigmented and clear powdercoats.
>
> - J
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[RBW] FS Paul Racer, Son Hub, Suzue Hub, Dura Ace Shifters, Stronglight Headset, Shimano Derailleurs, Tektro Brakes, Nitto Bars

2010-11-15 Thread Andrew
Selling a few parts:

1. Son Deluxe Hub. Polished Silver 32H. This is the new version of the
Son 20r but its exactly the same. New in box with cable and all
attachments, never installed. $225

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/185c16a3.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/ca0f7343.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/9557c682.jpg

2. Pair of Paul Racer Brakes. Silver, front and rear. Never installed
in box with all parts. $175

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/ff748a7a.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/0d5eeca8.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/4d2ad08f.jpg

3. Suzue Classica Cassette Rear Hub. Brand new in box and the cassette
is for modern Shimano 8-10 speed. This is a beautiful hub that is one
of the only cassette hubs available with a classic style. Its made in
Japan and hard to find here. Also it only weighs 280g and is high
flanged. Would be perfect for a Rodeo and matches the Son hub nicely.
130mm spacing 36h. $150

http://store.somafab.com/sucl10rohu1.html
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/252a2b9e.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/095e286f.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/820c51d1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hTyj3OL-9CE/SjmEFjI880I/AXc/Gygc7s7DRuA/s400/Classica+1.jpg

4. Dura ace 9 speed downtube shifters. New in Box never installed. $60

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/d210ae19.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/8935a6e1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2a44e897.jpg


5. Nitto Porteur Bars swept back with about a centimeter or 2 of rise
or drop. These are very classically styled French porteur bars. 48cm
wide and accept bar end shifters. Think of them as nicer versions of
the Velo Orange porteur bars. They are a good alternative for somebody
with smaller shoulders or a woman who finds the albatross bars way to
big. Never used. $45

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/597d471b.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/5e28e782.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/26c20075.jpg

6. Stronglight A9 headset. Very Pretty, very plain silver French made
headset. 1"  26.4. New in box, never installed. $50

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/7ea73c99.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2e60c991.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3866d832.jpg

7. Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brakes. These are the same brakes as
the Silvers just not rebranded and with stock pads. They work great
and these were used for less than 100 miles. $35

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/e49a.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3f8e2b70.jpg

8. XT rear derailleur. Less than 100 miles on it. Was on a 9 speed.
Really nice shape $35.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/f61f1847.jpg

9. Ultegra Front double. Less than 100 miles of use. Was on a 9 speed.
Really nice shape. $25

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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Except you still need to remove the clip to remove the bag.
The O-ring does not need to be removed and on top of that eliminates rattle
of rod in tubes.
(Of course maybe the cippiola clip helps with rattle too, not sure about
that. Never tried)





On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:16 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
> > Let's try this again (hit send too soon).
> >
> >
> > I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the
> > rod in.
> > Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to
> > contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is
> > closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I
> > can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring.
> > Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed.
>
> A circular Clippiola paper clip does the same thing.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Here is picture of O-ring setup:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624467335916/

That should explain what I was trying to say.



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Clayton Scott  wrote:

> Except you still need to remove the clip to remove the bag.
> The O-ring does not need to be removed and on top of that eliminates rattle
> of rod in tubes.
> (Of course maybe the cippiola clip helps with rattle too, not sure about
> that. Never tried)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:16 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
>> > Let's try this again (hit send too soon).
>> >
>> >
>> > I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the
>> > rod in.
>> > Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to
>> > contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is
>> > closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I
>> > can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring.
>> > Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed.
>>
>> A circular Clippiola paper clip does the same thing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [RBW] FS Paul Racer, Son Hub, Suzue Hub, Dura Ace Shifters, Stronglight Headset, Shimano Derailleurs, Tektro Brakes, Nitto Bars

2010-11-15 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
If still available, I'll take 1, 2, 3, and 5. 

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Subject: [RBW] FS Paul Racer, Son Hub, Suzue Hub, Dura Ace Shifters, 
Stronglight Headset, Shimano Derailleurs, Tektro Brakes, Nitto Bars

Selling a few parts:

1. Son Deluxe Hub. Polished Silver 32H. This is the new version of the Son 20r 
but its exactly the same. New in box with cable and all attachments, never 
installed. $225

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/185c16a3.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/ca0f7343.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/9557c682.jpg

2. Pair of Paul Racer Brakes. Silver, front and rear. Never installed in box 
with all parts. $175

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/ff748a7a.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/0d5eeca8.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/4d2ad08f.jpg

3. Suzue Classica Cassette Rear Hub. Brand new in box and the cassette is for 
modern Shimano 8-10 speed. This is a beautiful hub that is one of the only 
cassette hubs available with a classic style. Its made in Japan and hard to 
find here. Also it only weighs 280g and is high flanged. Would be perfect for a 
Rodeo and matches the Son hub nicely.
130mm spacing 36h. $150

http://store.somafab.com/sucl10rohu1.html
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/252a2b9e.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/095e286f.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/820c51d1.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hTyj3OL-9CE/SjmEFjI880I/AXc/Gygc7s7DRuA/s400/Classica+1.jpg

4. Dura ace 9 speed downtube shifters. New in Box never installed. $60

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/d210ae19.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/8935a6e1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2a44e897.jpg


5. Nitto Porteur Bars swept back with about a centimeter or 2 of rise or drop. 
These are very classically styled French porteur bars. 48cm wide and accept bar 
end shifters. Think of them as nicer versions of the Velo Orange porteur bars. 
They are a good alternative for somebody with smaller shoulders or a woman who 
finds the albatross bars way to big. Never used. $45

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/597d471b.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/5e28e782.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/26c20075.jpg

6. Stronglight A9 headset. Very Pretty, very plain silver French made headset. 
1"  26.4. New in box, never installed. $50

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/7ea73c99.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2e60c991.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3866d832.jpg

7. Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brakes. These are the same brakes as the 
Silvers just not rebranded and with stock pads. They work great and these were 
used for less than 100 miles. $35

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/e49a.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3f8e2b70.jpg

8. XT rear derailleur. Less than 100 miles on it. Was on a 9 speed.
Really nice shape $35.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/f61f1847.jpg

9. Ultegra Front double. Less than 100 miles of use. Was on a 9 speed.
Really nice shape. $25

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/0168edcc.jpg


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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
> Here is picture of O-ring setup: 
> 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624467335916/
> 
> 
> That should explain what I was trying to say.

For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed
out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard
decaleur.  Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony "Don't Fear
the Pear"?




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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Yes, it was Tony Pereira. Thanks for the compliments.

And yes, it is a modified version that ommits the "crossbar" that bolts onto
the stem.
Bag to decaleur attachment is the same.



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
> > Here is picture of O-ring setup:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624467335916/
> >
> >
> > That should explain what I was trying to say.
>
> For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed
> out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard
> decaleur.  Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony "Don't Fear
> the Pear"?
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dunk Method Grip Shellac video

2010-11-15 Thread erik jensen
i like to dunk inside, too, seems to help the grip pop off without fracture
when you are trying to remove it...

erik

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Esteban  wrote:

> Grant is one of my favorite people in the world.  This video is
> genius.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On Nov 15, 11:49 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM, William  wrote:
> > > Grant has a new grip installation/shellacking video up, including the
> > > dunk method.  Pretty amusing.  Only works with a full can of Bullseye,
> > > though.
> >
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPcpnylK-4
> >
> > A couple of things which I found make this process easier:
> >
> > 1. old shovel or broom handle
> > 2. put grip onto shovel or broom handle
> > 3. dip into shellac, cover completely, let dry
> > 4. repeat 2 or 3 times.
> >
> > less chance of dripping onto your bike and having to scrape it off la
> > -sv
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[RBW] Re: anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread William
That's a great shot, but I still maybe don't quite understand.

If the O-ring is squeezing the L-shaped slider bar, I understand how
that would eliminate rattle and make it unnecessary to have the paper
clippy thing on the other end.  But, if it's squeezing the L-shaped
slider bar, it seems to me that it will fall on the ground when you
slide out that slider bar and eventually get lost.

Are you telling me that the O-ring is stretched over the center tube
part that's bolted to the stem in this picture, but the overhanging
part of the O-ring has enough pucker that it still squeezes the slider
bar when installed?

On Nov 15, 2:52 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
> > Here is picture of O-ring setup:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624...
>
> > That should explain what I was trying to say.
>
> For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed
> out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard
> decaleur.  Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony "Don't Fear
> the Pear"?

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Re: [RBW] Re: anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
The way the tubes are arranged you don't need to pull out the rod all the
way to remove the bag.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, William  wrote:

> That's a great shot, but I still maybe don't quite understand.
>
> If the O-ring is squeezing the L-shaped slider bar, I understand how
> that would eliminate rattle and make it unnecessary to have the paper
> clippy thing on the other end.  But, if it's squeezing the L-shaped
> slider bar, it seems to me that it will fall on the ground when you
> slide out that slider bar and eventually get lost.
>
> Are you telling me that the O-ring is stretched over the center tube
> part that's bolted to the stem in this picture, but the overhanging
> part of the O-ring has enough pucker that it still squeezes the slider
> bar when installed?
>
> On Nov 15, 2:52 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
> > > Here is picture of O-ring setup:
> >
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624.
> ..
> >
> > > That should explain what I was trying to say.
> >
> > For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed
> > out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard
> > decaleur.  Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony "Don't Fear
> > the Pear"?
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[RBW] Re: anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread William
Aha!  OK, so IF I did snatch out the L-bar entirely the O-ring would
fall on the ground, but if I just slide it out past the center tube,
the O-ring stays perched on the tip, I remove the bag and push the L-
bar back in.  Is that pretty much it?  I get it.

p.s. your Rohlofftonneur is really cool.

On Nov 15, 3:06 pm, Clayton Scott  wrote:
> The way the tubes are arranged you don't need to pull out the rod all the
> way to remove the bag.
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, William  wrote:
> > That's a great shot, but I still maybe don't quite understand.
>
> > If the O-ring is squeezing the L-shaped slider bar, I understand how
> > that would eliminate rattle and make it unnecessary to have the paper
> > clippy thing on the other end.  But, if it's squeezing the L-shaped
> > slider bar, it seems to me that it will fall on the ground when you
> > slide out that slider bar and eventually get lost.
>
> > Are you telling me that the O-ring is stretched over the center tube
> > part that's bolted to the stem in this picture, but the overhanging
> > part of the O-ring has enough pucker that it still squeezes the slider
> > bar when installed?
>
> > On Nov 15, 2:52 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
> > > > Here is picture of O-ring setup:
>
> > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624.
> > ..
>
> > > > That should explain what I was trying to say.
>
> > > For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed
> > > out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard
> > > decaleur.  Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony "Don't Fear
> > > the Pear"?
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Re: [RBW] Re: anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Yes, that is it. (Admittedly, you could probably remove a paperclip just as
fast)

And yes, the Rohlofftonneur has been excellent so far.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, William  wrote:

> Aha!  OK, so IF I did snatch out the L-bar entirely the O-ring would
> fall on the ground, but if I just slide it out past the center tube,
> the O-ring stays perched on the tip, I remove the bag and push the L-
> bar back in.  Is that pretty much it?  I get it.
>
> p.s. your Rohlofftonneur is really cool.
>
> On Nov 15, 3:06 pm, Clayton Scott  wrote:
> > The way the tubes are arranged you don't need to pull out the rod all the
> > way to remove the bag.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, William  wrote:
> > > That's a great shot, but I still maybe don't quite understand.
> >
> > > If the O-ring is squeezing the L-shaped slider bar, I understand how
> > > that would eliminate rattle and make it unnecessary to have the paper
> > > clippy thing on the other end.  But, if it's squeezing the L-shaped
> > > slider bar, it seems to me that it will fall on the ground when you
> > > slide out that slider bar and eventually get lost.
> >
> > > Are you telling me that the O-ring is stretched over the center tube
> > > part that's bolted to the stem in this picture, but the overhanging
> > > part of the O-ring has enough pucker that it still squeezes the slider
> > > bar when installed?
> >
> > > On Nov 15, 2:52 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
> > > > > Here is picture of O-ring setup:
> >
> > > > >
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624.
> > > ..
> >
> > > > > That should explain what I was trying to say.
> >
> > > > For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed
> > > > out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the
> standard
> > > > decaleur.  Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony "Don't Fear
> > > > the Pear"?
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[RBW] Re: FS Paul Racer, Son Hub, Suzue Hub, Dura Ace Shifters, Stronglight Headset, Shimano Derailleurs, Tektro Brakes, Nitto Bars

2010-11-15 Thread Andrew
1,2,3,5,8 all sold! Here is what is still for sale

4. Dura ace 9 speed downtube shifters. New in Box never installed.
$60
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/d210ae19.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/8935a6e1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2a44e897.jpg

6. Stronglight A9 headset. Very Pretty, very plain silver French made
headset. 1"  26.4. New in box, never installed. $50
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/7ea73c99.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2e60c991.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3866d832.jpg

7. Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brakes. These are the same brakes as
the Silvers just not rebranded and with stock pads. They work great
and these were used for less than 100 miles. $35
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/e49a.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3f8e2b70.jpg

9. Ultegra Front double. Less than 100 miles of use. Was on a 9
speed.
Really nice shape. $25

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[RBW] WTB Nuovo Record Braze-On Front Der

2010-11-15 Thread Eric Norris
Anybody have one in their parts bin?  Needs to be in nice condition, doesn't 
have to be perfect.

Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] 650b rear wheel

2010-11-15 Thread dirk pitt
Trying to get an idea of how much I can sell a rear Velocity synergy
650b 36 hole wheel. It has a Phil Wood rear hub , a Shimano 7spd
freewheel (11-34) , and dt swiss spokes . I bought it new about 3
years ago from Rivendell. It has seen some use but it's still in good/
great shape.
Also will be putting a 59cm Bleriot up for sale in the near future.
Thanks

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[RBW] Re: 650b rear wheel

2010-11-15 Thread William
I think you could/should just decide what you want to get for it and
post it here.  If it's priced fairly, somebody will probably take it
off your hands.

On Nov 15, 3:46 pm, dirk pitt  wrote:
> Trying to get an idea of how much I can sell a rear Velocity synergy
> 650b 36 hole wheel. It has a Phil Wood rear hub , a Shimano 7spd
> freewheel (11-34) , and dt swiss spokes . I bought it new about 3
> years ago from Rivendell. It has seen some use but it's still in good/
> great shape.
> Also will be putting a 59cm Bleriot up for sale in the near future.
> Thanks

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[RBW] NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread stanwasser
My wife Cindy, a boyhood chum Jeff and I did the Pine Creek Trail this past 
summer.  I can't imagine that any bicyclist who has a love for the outdoors 
would be disappointed.  The countryside is beautiful and the wildlife is 
abundunt - deer, fox, bald eagles, rattlesnakes, heron.  We saw two pairs of 
bald eagles working with their fledglings.  That was great!  One thing to bear 
in mind is that riding the trail is not at all challenging.  The grade is 
roughly 2 - 3% and the trail itself is very well maintained.  There is a very 
firm base covered with just about the right amount of cinder / fine gravel for 
bicycling.  Cindy rode her old S600 Cannondale shod with 27 x 1-3/8 Paselas and 
had nary a problem.  

I understand that there are more challenging bike trails in the area, and I can 
attest that there are many nice roads as well.  We used to live outside of 
Philly and spent many hours riding motorcycles up there.
Oh, and if I can pull it off, I plan on joining as well.

Stan Wasser
Columbia, SC

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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread EricP
Ooh.  Those look good.  Might have to search for them at my local
REI.  (Was planning to go there this week anyway and check out long
finger gloves.)

Rode with my slip on "winter" Keens today.  Glad to not use retention
as had to get off the pedals quickly a couple of times in rough
snow.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Nov 14, 11:39 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> For me the magic formula has turned out to be the Keen Coronado Cruiser 
> (that's the bike specific version) for summer and warm weather and I have 
> just discovered the North Face Snow Sneaker II for cold and wet weather 
> riding. There's obviously no snow in the Bay Area, but when I start my 16 
> mile morning commute at 6:30 am it's around 35 and me feet get otherwise very 
> cold!  http://www.rei.com/product/80
>
> They are very comfortable and soft to walk in but stay very well hooked to 
> the sneaker pedals as the sole is full of little geometric shapes.
>
> René
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Justin August  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Asics Ultimate 81s
> > LL Bean reissued Saddle Shoes
> > Bostonian Tuscana
> > Alden medallion tipped oxfords
> > Clarks Desert boots
> > iPath Cats
>
> > I cycle in all of these nearly every week. Some of my favorites are
> > the Bostonians in a nice 9.5 wide.
>
> > On Nov 14, 10:43 pm, "Jeff, KC MO"  wrote:
> >> I have a pair of Axo (?, can't tell for sure from the logo) that I
> >> bought at a bike swap meet for $10 with stiff soles and no provision
> >> for SPD. They look like skate shoes but are perhaps the best bike
> >> shoes I've found yet. I had to cut off nearly a foot of lace from each
> >> shoe and re-tip them with heat shrink tubing to make them just right.
>
> >> Also, I have a pair of Montrail trail runners that were too stiff for
> >> running but work nicely for cycling. They have a flap that goes over
> >> the laces and zips shut and snaps down, keeping the laces away from
> >> the chainring. They came with gaiters for the really cold days.
>
> >> In the summer, I wear a pair of North Face sandals.
>
> >> Jeff in KC
>
> >> On Nov 14, 8:01 pm, Jim Cloud  wrote:
>
> >>> +1 on the Sidi Touring shoes that Rivendell once sold.  The last for
> >>> this shoe fits me very well (it is a 47 size), and I'm very happy with
> >>> them.   I have one additional pair, NIB, in reserve when my present
> >>> ones wear out (although these shoes which use the Lorica "leather"
> >>> uppers seem to wear forever!).
>
> >>> Jim Cloud
> >>> Tucson, AZ
>
> >>> On Nov 14, 3:45 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> >>> wrote:
>
>  I saw mention of shoes on the pedal discussion, and decided to spawn a
>  new discussion...  What kind of shoes do you all ride with???  (I've
>  recently changed my perspective on shoes.)
>
>  Since owning my Bombadil I've virtually ceased using my SPD shoes.  My
>  pedals are Nashbar Rodeo 2 pedals, which have SPD bindings on one
>  side, platform on the other... Instead I ride my favorite, most
>  comfortable shoes, Ecco Country Walkers... I never would have
>  previously considered riding in my "street" shoes, which I now realize
>  is totally absurd.  Riding with these shoes puts a smile on my face.
>  Best of all, when I arrive (wherever it is I arrive at), I'm wearing
>  my favorite shoes.
>
>  BB
>
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[RBW] Latest issue of Momentum

2010-11-15 Thread EricP
Just received my latest issue in the mail.  Looked inside and saw an
article on San Diego.  First photo is our own Esteban.  Am hoping he's
on the Protovelo.  But not sure about that.

Also there is a photo of Stephan Vance whom I may have met when he was
on his Bleriot.  Not sure if the bike in the photo is the same
Rivendell, but it does have a nice Rivendell type setup and a
Rivendell bag up front.

Sort of fun to see folks I've met in a magazine.  (BTW, there is also
a profile of photographer Matt Lingo whom we met at Velo Cult.  Had
him sign my issue of COG featuring his work.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] Re: FS: pants... pants... pants... and some pants

2010-11-15 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi, all.

A couple of folks have asked for a waist-size equivalent for the XXXL
shorts and pants.

I'm sorry I don't have any numbers to give. I can say with certainty
that the XXXL pants are bigger than the contemporaneous and the
current XXL pants, in the waist and hips. I'd guess by a couple
inches. The inseam on the shorts is about the same as the current XXL
shorts. The longs have a slightly *shorter* inseam than the XXL longs,
per my memory about 1".

Hope that helps.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean




On Nov 14, 6:23 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> 1 pair shorts, XXL longs (olive/blue) spoken for.
>
> Unspoken for: 2 pairs shorts, butternut/olive longs (all XXXL).
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Nov 14, 4:47 pm, "Thomas Lynn Skean" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi, all.
>
> > Having discovered the wonder of knickers (USA, not GB), I now have long 
> > pants I'm unlikely to want to wear again. And in some cases, the pants are 
> > no longer such a great fit, as I am more fit. The pants do have significant 
> > life left in them, though.
>
> > For your consideration:
>
> > 3 pairs XXXL MUSA shorts, butternut/olive (olive front pockets/crotch, 
> > butternut everything else). Very lightweight nylon. Purchased in late '08. 
> > Worn well on Brooks saddles (yes, more than one I actually broke my 
> > first one! but I digress). Thus, they are darkened around the crotch. 
> > However, if the size works for you, these'll give you many miles of riding 
> > and/or knocking around. $12/pair, shipped CONUS. $22 for 2 pair, $29 for 
> > all three.
>
> > 1 pair XXXL MUSA long pants, butternut/olive (olive front pockets, 
> > butternut everything else (including crotch, which is weird)). Very 
> > lightweight nylon. Purchased either in late '08 or early '09, I think. Also 
> > darkened around the crotch. And there's grease-darkening on the right leg 
> > from the odd encounter with a chain. $18 shipped CONUS.
>
> > 1 pair XXL MUSA long pants, olive/blue (blue front pockets/crotch, olive 
> > everything else). Less-lightweight nylon. Purchased in early/mid '09. Also 
> > darkened around the crotch. And there's a grease stain (a little more 
> > distinct than just darkening). $20 shipped CONUS.
>
> > Please reply off-list (reply-to-author) if interested.
>
> > Yours,
> > Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: 650b rear wheel

2010-11-15 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Does it have the "offset/dishless" spoke holes, or conventional spoke-
hole pattern?

Thx,
BB

On Nov 15, 6:46 pm, dirk pitt  wrote:
> Trying to get an idea of how much I can sell a rear Velocity synergy
> 650b 36 hole wheel. It has a Phil Wood rear hub , a Shimano 7spd
> freewheel (11-34) , and dt swiss spokes . I bought it new about 3
> years ago from Rivendell. It has seen some use but it's still in good/
> great shape.
> Also will be putting a 59cm Bleriot up for sale in the near future.
> Thanks

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[RBW] Re: FS Paul Racer, Son Hub, Suzue Hub, Dura Ace Shifters, Stronglight Headset, Shimano Derailleurs, Tektro Brakes, Nitto Bars

2010-11-15 Thread Andrew
ultegra front derailleur sold

On Nov 15, 3:18 pm, Andrew  wrote:
> 1,2,3,5,8 all sold! Here is what is still for sale
>
> 4. Dura ace 9 speed downtube shifters. New in Box never installed.
> $60http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/d210ae19.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/8935a6e1.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2a44e897.jpg
>
> 6. Stronglight A9 headset. Very Pretty, very plain silver French made
> headset. 1"  26.4. New in box, never installed. 
> $50http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/7ea73c99.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2e60c991.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3866d832.jpg
>
> 7. Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brakes. These are the same brakes as
> the Silvers just not rebranded and with stock pads. They work great
> and these were used for less than 100 miles. 
> $35http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/e49a.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3f8e2b70.jpg
>
> 9. Ultegra Front double. Less than 100 miles of use. Was on a 9
> speed.
> Really nice shape. $25

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Many thanks, Stan... That's great to hear firsthand from someone who's
enjoyed the trail.

BTW, I heard back from Bill Yacovissi, the owner of the
http://www.pinecreekbikerides.com/ website, who (in this excerpted
message from him) said:
===
Hi BB:

Your plan sounds great and I believe Wellsboro will suit your group
and your plans.  If you've not been in this part of Pa before I would
say most people underestimate how rural and remote north central Pa is
which, is what makes it a great place to visit.  Also, Wellsboro is a
particularly nice town, unusually prosperous for a Pa small town in an
otherwise economically depressed area.

I will say weather in the spring can be iffy.  Compared to downstate
and coastal areas winter here hangs on through March.  I would try to
arrange your event as late in May as possible.  Typically summer
arrives instantly the first week in May and the weather is very nice
all summer, cool evenings, refreshing mornings, hot afternoons.

Motels, B&B, and such will be fine as well as restaurants and places
for evening repasts.  The only issue here is the area is in the midst
of a natural gas drilling boom and a lot of people have come up from
Texas to work on the rigs and are occupying some of the motel rooms.

I think riding with your group will be fun and I will be happy to
consult with you on routes.

If you look on a map of Pa you'll see a huge area of state forest land
just too the west and south of Wellsboro.  The state maintains roads
throughout the forest.  While these are public roads, on most of them
you won't have a car pass you all day, on some you might have 2 or 3
cars in a day.  You can ride all day through beautiful forest totally
unmolested by traffic.  The surface on the roads is good for bikes,
much like you find on a rails trail.

The rides on my bike page are all on roads.  If you look at the topo
maps you'll see trails there as well.  It certainly is easy to do a
ride on all trails or a combination of roads and trails.  I typically
don't ride trails so the rides are there, just not on my bike page.

Also if you look at the topos you'll see the area is really a plateau
cut up by canyons.  It's a full 1,000 feet from the canyon floor to
the top of the plateau.  Once you get on top it's surprisingly flat.
The gradient on the roads is not steep but it can seem a long 2 or 3
miles uphill to get to the top.  Of course the 4 mile downhill run at
the end is something different. Anyway you might consider ferrying
weaker rides a mile or so up the hill then drive back down and park at
the bottom.

Hope this helps and you plans work out.

Bill Yacovissi


Back to your point, Stan.  As far as the rail trail being easy, I
think that clearly works in our favor, since we will likely have folks
who prefer a shorter, easier ride that others.  We can always add
distance to our route to make it more challenging, especially when
there's supposedly 60+ miles of beautiful scenery along the Pine Creek
Trail ALONE.  Additionally, the way some of the rides (on Bill's
website, http://www.pinecreekbikerides.com/) are set up adjacent to
the rail trail, I could easily see linking one or more of these loops
into our route for riders wanting more of a challenge. In fact if we
have a large turnout we can survey the group and possibly split up
into groups to offer easier or more challenging rides.  We could do
the "core ride" together (like a typical organized club event), but
then the longer distance riders could split of on a spur/loop to add a
little extra mileage and challenge.  I am confident there's plenty of
challenge if we want it... We just need to be a little creative.

Shortly I will be sending out some hotel information along with the
proposed dates (May 6-8, Fri-Sun).  But since I have asked a few
individuals to consider other locations in NY State, and want to give
them a chance to come back with other ideas, I will wait another day
to hear back from them; otherwise we can proceed with making plans for
Wellsboro.

Peace,
BB


On Nov 15, 7:46 pm,  wrote:
> My wife Cindy, a boyhood chum Jeff and I did the Pine Creek Trail this past 
> summer.  I can't imagine that any bicyclist who has a love for the outdoors 
> would be disappointed.  The countryside is beautiful and the wildlife is 
> abundunt - deer, fox, bald eagles, rattlesnakes, heron.  We saw two pairs of 
> bald eagles working with their fledglings.  That was great!  One thing to 
> bear in mind is that riding the trail is not at all challenging.  The grade 
> is roughly 2 - 3% and the trail itself is very well maintained.  There is a 
> very firm base covered with just about the right amount of cinder / fine 
> gravel for bicycling.  Cindy rode her old S600 Cannondale shod with 27 x 
> 1-3/8 Paselas and had nary a problem.  
>
> I understand that there are more challenging bike trails in the area, and I 
> can attest that there are many nice roads as well.  We used to live outside 
> of 

[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread charlie
Tevas, New Balance walking shoes, very rarely dress shoes ( for
church ), Red Wing Western style pull on boots, my rubber "Duck" boots
( you know what these are if you live in Washington State on the wet
side) numerous  varieties of whatever sport shoe I happen to wear at
the time.

On Nov 14, 2:45 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> I saw mention of shoes on the pedal discussion, and decided to spawn a
> new discussion...  What kind of shoes do you all ride with???  (I've
> recently changed my perspective on shoes.)
>
> Since owning my Bombadil I've virtually ceased using my SPD shoes.  My
> pedals are Nashbar Rodeo 2 pedals, which have SPD bindings on one
> side, platform on the other... Instead I ride my favorite, most
> comfortable shoes, Ecco Country Walkers... I never would have
> previously considered riding in my "street" shoes, which I now realize
> is totally absurd.  Riding with these shoes puts a smile on my face.
> Best of all, when I arrive (wherever it is I arrive at), I'm wearing
> my favorite shoes.
>
> BB

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[RBW] Re: FS Paul Racer, Son Hub, Suzue Hub, Dura Ace Shifters, Stronglight Headset, Shimano Derailleurs, Tektro Brakes, Nitto Bars

2010-11-15 Thread Andrew
Shifters sold, lower price on last items:

 Stronglight A9 headset. Very Pretty, very plain silver French made
headset. 1"  26.4. New in box, never installed. $40

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/7ea73c99.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2e60c991.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3866d832.jpg

 Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brakes. These are the same brakes as
the Silvers just not rebranded and with stock pads. They work great
and these were used for less than 100 miles. $30

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/e49a.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3f8e2b70.jpg



On Nov 15, 4:59 pm, Andrew  wrote:
> ultegra front derailleur sold
>
> On Nov 15, 3:18 pm, Andrew  wrote:
>
>
>
> > 1,2,3,5,8 all sold! Here is what is still for sale
>
> > 4. Dura ace 9 speed downtube shifters. New in Box never installed.
> > $60http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/d210ae19.jpghttp://i19.p...
>
> > 6. Stronglight A9 headset. Very Pretty, very plain silver French made
> > headset. 1"  26.4. New in box, never installed. 
> > $50http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/7ea73c99.jpghttp://i19.p...
>
> > 7. Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brakes. These are the same brakes as
> > the Silvers just not rebranded and with stock pads. They work great
> > and these were used for less than 100 miles. 
> > $35http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/e49a.jpghttp://i19.p...
>
> > 9. Ultegra Front double. Less than 100 miles of use. Was on a 9
> > speed.
> > Really nice shape. $25

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos: 64cm Waterford built Hillborne

2010-11-15 Thread robert zeidler
It's mine!!!  Can't wait to get out for a spin.  My Riv Custom is closer to
a 68cm but this should be a good fit!

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles <
renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> @ Andrew,
> Yes, the is the Sugino Alpina Triple.  Looks good and works very
> well.  I never felt the Sugino 500T was in any way "sloppy" when
> shifting, but the Alpina is definitely better.  Of course, is about
> $80 more.
>
> @ kuma,
> I think you get whatever fork they give you ... and you're happy with
> it.
>
> Bryan
>
> On Nov 12, 3:14 pm, kuma  wrote:
> > I also thought the three dot forks were the canti forks, and the no
> > dot forks were the sidepull forks?  There are so many different
> > versions of the Sam fork, it is hard to keep track of them, and it's
> > not at all clear to me which one you will get if you order a Sam.
> >
> > On Nov 12, 7:49 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles"
> >
> >  wrote:
> > > It is safe to say that this is the largest bike we've had in the Shop
> > > for a while; a 64cm double toptube Hillborne:
> >
> > >http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/
> >
> > > This has been a project for quite some time – we ordered it from
> > > Waterford way-back-when.  Bob did a very nice job selecting components
> > > and accessories.  The 10-speed 105 drivetrain works well with the
> > > Sugino Alpina cranks and Silver shifters.  For what it's worth, I
> > > still think the fluted version of the Honjos are the best looking
> > > fenders.
> >
> > > Questions, comments, and observation are welcomed.
> >
> > > Thanks and enjoy your weekend,
> >
> > > Bryan
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread james black
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:40, rperks  wrote:
> and for james, Link to my blog:
>
> http://oceanaircycles.com/

Thanks for the link and the write-up - a great account of the day.
Sorry to hear of the sickness.

James Black

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[RBW] Re: For those who like to finance 650B speculative projects....

2010-11-15 Thread William
I went ahead and ordered a pair.  Dirt road tires and mud tires for
the Bombadil (which packs up a bit with my Quasi motos in the mud).
Maybe, just maybe, they'll fit through the Silvers on my Hilsen, which
would be sick (as the kids say).

On Nov 6, 6:19 pm, William  wrote:
> Yeah I emailed Kirk to see if I could order them from him, but he said
> the Rawlands thing gets him a single customer interface to get it
> going.  I imagine the Pari-moto presale was a logistical challenge for
> him.  It's actually being called a 43, not a 42.  It will be really
> close on the Hilsen.
>
> On Nov 5, 6:40 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > As I recall, Sean the owner of Rawland needs to pre-sell 150 tires to
> > make this work... so you 650B bike owners, nows your chance to help
> > bring to market a new product that would benefit all 650B owners.
> >  I've pre-ordered one of the new low trail, lighter tubing, rSogns so
> > I'll definitely be looking for such a tire.  I've thought about a 58cm
> > 650B Hilsen for a while, but this gets my toe wet before I fall into
> > the pool.
> > It will certainly be built in the Rivendell style Nitto,Sugino,
> > friction shifting etc.
>
> > ~Mike~
>
> > On Nov 5, 2:40 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > > Looks like there is another Pacenti 650B tire on PRE-SALE.  It's
> > > called the mini-moto, claims to be a 650x42B, and is being pre-sold
> > > exclusively through Rawland.  I have no clue if it will clear my
> > > Hilsen or Gomez, but at least I know it would work on the Bombadil.
> > > It claims to have a traditional block tread pattern, and it's being
> > > called a cyclocross tire, which might be just what some of you mixed-
> > > terrainers might like.
>
> > >http://www.rawlandcycles.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detail...

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[RBW] Re: FS Paul Racer, Son Hub, Suzue Hub, Dura Ace Shifters, Stronglight Headset, Shimano Derailleurs, Tektro Brakes, Nitto Bars

2010-11-15 Thread Andrew
All Sold thanks!


On Nov 15, 6:35 pm, Andrew  wrote:
> Shifters sold, lower price on last items:
>
>  Stronglight A9 headset. Very Pretty, very plain silver French made
> headset. 1"  26.4. New in box, never installed. $40
>
> http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/7ea73c99.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/2e60c991.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3866d832.jpg
>
>  Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brakes. These are the same brakes as
> the Silvers just not rebranded and with stock pads. They work great
> and these were used for less than 100 miles. $30
>
> http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/e49a.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/3f8e2b70.jpg
>
> On Nov 15, 4:59 pm, Andrew  wrote:
>
>
>
> > ultegra front derailleur sold
>
> > On Nov 15, 3:18 pm, Andrew  wrote:
>
> > > 1,2,3,5,8 all sold! Here is what is still for sale
>
> > > 4. Dura ace 9 speed downtube shifters. New in Box never installed.
> > > $60http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/d210ae19.jpghttp://i19.p...
>
> > > 6. Stronglight A9 headset. Very Pretty, very plain silver French made
> > > headset. 1"  26.4. New in box, never installed. 
> > > $50http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/7ea73c99.jpghttp://i19.p...
>
> > > 7. Tektro R556 Extra Long Reach Brakes. These are the same brakes as
> > > the Silvers just not rebranded and with stock pads. They work great
> > > and these were used for less than 100 miles. 
> > > $35http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/e49a.jpghttp://i19.p...
>
> > > 9. Ultegra Front double. Less than 100 miles of use. Was on a 9
> > > speed.
> > > Really nice shape. $25

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[RBW] Sackville SaddleSack Tips

2010-11-15 Thread D.Lemon
Dear RBW Owners Bunch,

For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium
SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for
lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.

Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at
the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it
rubs" "...They are there for the creative."

So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their
"creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm
aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not
use one.

Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and
Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the
underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.

Many thanks in advance for your input.

David

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[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

2010-11-15 Thread grrlyrida
I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same Esteban on
here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)

http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Hillborne, all Waterford

2010-11-15 Thread kuma
Beautiful.  Is that a twine top tube protector?

On Nov 14, 8:40 am, Thebikehermit 
wrote:
> I recently closed my retail store. I had two 57 cm A.H.H. frames which
> Rivendell bought back, so if you've been waiting for/wanting
> one...give them a call. I also have a 52cm Hillborne which is
> currently built in a little unusual, but high end configuration. White
> Industries hubs and crankset, 10 speed Shimano Ultegra brifters.
> Comfortable and 
> fast.http://www.flickr.com/photos/45715...@n06/4831921730/in/photostream/
> Reply to me if you have an interest. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers

2010-11-15 Thread gregb

Marty... I was just wrong.  26" wheels and a old brain.

G
On Nov 13, 2:37 pm, Marty  wrote:
> Add a few photos to the All Rounder Flickr group when you get a chance
> gregb. We love to see Rivs! BTW - did I read an earlier post of yours
> that suggested the bike is built around 27" wheels? That seems odd.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2cnxwba
>
> Marty
>
> On Nov 13, 3:41 pm, carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > Doesn't the M mean it was match built, 1999 - 2000 or so?
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mojo 
>
> > Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:25:00
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch
> > Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Help with Serial Numbers
>
> > If memory serves there were just a few frames completed in 1994 and
> > all the 94-95 (-96?) were wateford built. JB didn't start painting
> > Rivendell frames until later, I will stab a guess at 1998 or 99. My
> > 1996 A/R was Waterford built&painted, my 2001 Road was Curt built JB
> > painted.
>
> > On Nov 13, 9:40 am, gregb  wrote:
> > > I (finally... sheesh I am lazy!!) looked at the serial number on my
> > > Riv.  AR 25 M if I am reading it correctly.  I think that means it was
> > > the 25th allrounder made?  puts it at about 1994? What else could I
> > > learn about this (newish to me) bike.  I am considering having it cut
> > > in half to put some S&S couplings in it  which will necessitate a
> > > repaint of the beautiful near mint JB paint job...  (I would have this
> > > done by the folks at R&E in seattle where we are likely getting
> > > another Riv'ish touring bike so we can have his and hers travel tour
> > > bikes for an italy trip.)
>
> > > I would love to hear your collective wisdom on the subject.  I have
> > > been lurking in this group for a while now- but you all talked me into
> > > actually riding this bike when I first got it and was chicken to take
> > > the pristine beauty out in the rain.
>
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[RBW] WTT : I have black Paul thumbie mounts, would like to trade for silver.

2010-11-15 Thread williwoods
Thats right folks.

In my quest to rid my bike of anything ano black...

let me know

Will

willh...@yahoo.com

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[RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding

2010-11-15 Thread Jack
+1 on the Bar Mitts.  I got a pair last year knowing that it was a
coin toss whether they would end up in the toy pile or tool pile of my
cycling gear - mainly due to the mild winters I enjoy in NC.

Lo and behold, they showed up right before NC started the longest
sustained "cold snap" we've seen in decades.  So, last year, they were
priceless.  :-)

One evening, I was riding home from work with temps in the mid-20's.
I had to take off my gloves because my hands were burning up in gloves
tucked inside the Bar Mitts.  I finished the ride with bare hands in
Bar Mitts.

My expectation is that they'll remain on again/off again from season
to season here in NC, would be of little value further south of here,
and would be golden north of here.   So, while your mileage *will*
vary based on your winters, I'm completely convinced that they're
effective at what they're designed to do.

Jack

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On Nov 15, 2:06 pm, Jay Fichialos  wrote:
> I've been using Barr Mitts for a few winters now and they're 
> great.http://www.barmitts.com
>
> Recently I finished modifying them to work with bar end shifters. Toasty
> warm and I can wear fingerless gloves year 
> round.http://www.flickr.com/photos/quadmod/5179116140/
>
> Just a happy customer,
>
> -Jay Fichialos
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:08 AM, EricP  wrote:
> > Am also happy with the Wiggy gloves that Rivendell sells.  But after
> > seeing Dan's link, might have to buy some of those choppers.
>
> > Will be using them today on the first snow ride of the season.  Coming
> > down pretty good right now.
>
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
>
> > On Nov 12, 11:02 pm, mike  wrote:
> > > It's nothing like you describe, but when it's cold here, my fingers
> > > have been happiest in the sort of military gloves that Riv has sold a
> > > couple of times in the recent past.  Each finger is in its own little
> > > sleeping bag and the outer nylon layer is tight enough to keep out the
> > > wind.  Looks like they're not currently on the 'clothing' page.
> > > Someone at work compared them to snowmobile gloves.
>
> > > On Nov 12, 2:49 pm, james  wrote:
>
> > > > Hey all,
>
> > > > I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter
> > > > coming I'm thinking about my hands.  Last Winter they got cold often
> > > > and I think I need some mittens.  My ideal would be all natural
> > > > materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner.  Even better would
> > > > be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover
> > > > for if the hands get hot.  Has anyone seen something like this?  I've
> > > > been scouring the web with no luck.  Anyone seen anything like this or
> > > > use them?
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

2010-11-15 Thread cyclotourist
Awesomely awesome!  We can all say we knew him when...

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM, grrlyrida  wrote:

> I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same Esteban on
> here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)
>
> http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego
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[RBW] Re: Latest issue of Momentum

2010-11-15 Thread Esteban
You know me now! Protovelo representin'.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Nov 15, 10:49 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Awesomely awesome!  We can all say we knew him when...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM, grrlyrida  wrote:
> > I read this last month and didn't realize he was the same Esteban on
> > here. But I did notice the Rivvish bike. :)
>
> >http://momentumplanet.com/articles/san-diego
>
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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread Kelly
Central PA sounds great!  I'd be driving from St Louis Missouri.  That
keeps me in the 10ish hour range.
Any kind of camping area is good.

Kelly

On Nov 14, 9:32 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> Thanks, Will
>
> Those guys on the left coast also have Burning Man ... life isn't
> fair.  But I've resolved that it's OK to envy the Riv folks... after
> all, they are "the source"... but I agree, we do need to get an East
> Coast Riv event of our own...
>
> If you (or others) know upstate NY (maybe the Finger Lakes region),
> that's another possibility we should explore.  We've got a few
> interested folks from Rochester, including John Philip from Syracuse.
> We'll need a spot that allows for either a 2-day loop with a stay over
> at the day 1 destination (or a spot where we do 2 days of individual
> out-and-back loops), there needs to be enough accommodations to host
> as many as 50 people (although not all together, necessarily... just
> within close proximity).  The ride routes must feature natural scenic
> beauty, dirt roads/trails, little or no vehicular traffic, distances
> ranging from 20-50 miles (ideally with bailout points for those who
> prefer a shorter ride), and decent places to gather as a group and eat/
> drink after a nice day of riding.
>
> If you (or anyone others) know of a good spot that can accommodate
> this kind of weekend, let me know.  So far Wellsboro PA sounds like it
> could host a really awesome weekend, but I hope there are at least one
> or two other places to consider.
>
> Thanks,
> BB
>
> On Nov 14, 9:57 pm, Will M  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've been thinking that the folks in the Bay Area have the Rivendell
> > Rides, and so we east-coasters should have something too.  Also
> > interested and can help with route planning if needed.  Up for just
> > about anything.
>
> > Will
> > NYC
>
> > On Nov 14, 9:43 pm, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Add on more from Rochester (work schedule permitting)!
>
> > > -Aaron Young
> > > Rochester, NY
>
> > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Montclair BobbyB 
> > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > OK, response so far has been excellent... we could have ourselves a
> > > > decent crowd for this!!!  I'm pumped.  I also took a good look at the
> > > > PineCreekRides.com site... and I think Wellsboro PA has EXCELLENT
> > > > potential for our weekend Rally.  There are lots of hotels, inns and
> > > > B&B's (which can suit a variety of tastes and budgets).  The town of
> > > > Wellsboro has a quaint commercial district with plenty of stores,
> > > > restaurants etc... and easy access to the Pine Creek Gorge (and
> > > > surrounding area) with a really nice variety of back road rides...
> > > > Moreover (as some of you have shared concerns about doing a 35-50-mile
> > > > ride), these loops are conducive to shortening (with bailout options
> > > > at different points for groups who would prefer to take a shorter
> > > > loop).  And Wellsboro has restaurants and taverns, so they MUST HAVE
> > > > BEER!
>
> > > > I will contact a few of the hotels and inns in the area, as well as
> > > > the owner of that website to get his opinion if by staying in
> > > > Wellsboro, we can get what we need in terms of hotels and access to
> > > > rides... Stay tuned.
>
> > > > Peace,
> > > > BB
>
> > > > On Nov 14, 3:23 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > VERY KIND OF YOU, AJ... THANKS!
>
> > > > > I'm already checking into a few potential spots... One potential might
> > > > > be the Pine Creek Gorge (aka the "Grand Canyon of PA"), located near
> > > > > Wellsboro (in north-central PA)... it features a very long rail trail
> > > > > through the scenic gorge, and is considered one of the top 10 in the
> > > > > US Also there appear to be many nice back road options in the
> > > > > area...http://www.pinecreekbikerides.com/(althoughIonlybriefly
> > > > > looked at this)... It looks like it has great potential.
>
> > > > > Anyone from the region with knowledge of Pine Creek (or any other
> > > > > possibilities), please let me know... THANKS!
>
> > > > > BB
>
> > > > > On Nov 14, 1:56 pm, AJ  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Good thought BB, I have a couple of road worthy riv's if anyone 
> > > > > > wants
> > > > > > to borrow one (60-61cm) for the rally.
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > AJ
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding

2010-11-15 Thread Dan Abelson
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 1:05 PM, james  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> thanks for the advice, I may order some of those custom gloves from
> henrysshoerepair which look good for most of what I was talking
> about.  I, in general, have cold hands that will start getting cold
> and hurting around 40 degrees, so last winter when I was biking in the
> teens I would often have two gloves and all of my fingers tucked in
> (not the safest for braking!).  We'll see about this winter!
>
> james
>
> --

One mitten I forgot to mention earlier that looks like the ultimate
winter cycling mitten is the Empire Canvas Works Icebike mitten.  I
would be tempted to get one if they had my size in stock.
http://www.empirecanvasworks.com/specials.htm

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread Norman
I've been checking out this group for a little while as I have a Sam
on order.  I'm pretty sure it will be here by Spring.  (Actually
within a few weeks.)  Bobby, since I live in your namesake town in New
Jersey I'm definitely up for this ride.
-Norman

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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread Kelly
I had been riding spdr dura ace on sidi carbon shoes  .. sold the
shoes with the bike.

Been riding in my tennis shoes and my crocs when it's warm enough.
Still have 3 pair of spd mtn biking shoes...

Haven't been totally won over on the no clip thing yet... but for
around the house it's been great.



On Nov 14, 5:53 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
> +1 on Keens.
>
> I've got two pairs of Keen Coronados; one canvas pair, and one "bike" pair 
> that's heavier material (suede?) with a stiffer sole.
> both work fine for cycling on Grip Kings, Sneaker Pedals, etc.  and allow my 
> wide feet plenty of room with the enclosed toe-box.
>
> The bike-specifc ones are my choice for longer rides, as the sole gives less. 
>  
> And an FYI to anyone looking at these - the bike ones run 1/2 a size smaller 
> than the non-bike ones.
>
> best,
> andrew

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Re: [RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread Fai Mao
I ride in cheap sneakers.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Jeff, KC MO  wrote:

> I have a pair of Axo (?, can't tell for sure from the logo) that I
> bought at a bike swap meet for $10 with stiff soles and no provision
> for SPD. They look like skate shoes but are perhaps the best bike
> shoes I've found yet. I had to cut off nearly a foot of lace from each
> shoe and re-tip them with heat shrink tubing to make them just right.
>
> Also, I have a pair of Montrail trail runners that were too stiff for
> running but work nicely for cycling. They have a flap that goes over
> the laces and zips shut and snaps down, keeping the laces away from
> the chainring. They came with gaiters for the really cold days.
>
> In the summer, I wear a pair of North Face sandals.
>
> Jeff in KC
>
> On Nov 14, 8:01 pm, Jim Cloud  wrote:
> > +1 on the Sidi Touring shoes that Rivendell once sold.  The last for
> > this shoe fits me very well (it is a 47 size), and I'm very happy with
> > them.   I have one additional pair, NIB, in reserve when my present
> > ones wear out (although these shoes which use the Lorica "leather"
> > uppers seem to wear forever!).
> >
> > Jim Cloud
> > Tucson, AZ
> >
> > On Nov 14, 3:45 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I saw mention of shoes on the pedal discussion, and decided to spawn a
> > > new discussion...  What kind of shoes do you all ride with???  (I've
> > > recently changed my perspective on shoes.)
> >
> > > Since owning my Bombadil I've virtually ceased using my SPD shoes.  My
> > > pedals are Nashbar Rodeo 2 pedals, which have SPD bindings on one
> > > side, platform on the other... Instead I ride my favorite, most
> > > comfortable shoes, Ecco Country Walkers... I never would have
> > > previously considered riding in my "street" shoes, which I now realize
> > > is totally absurd.  Riding with these shoes puts a smile on my face.
> > > Best of all, when I arrive (wherever it is I arrive at), I'm wearing
> > > my favorite shoes.
> >
> > > BB
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[RBW] FS/FT Musa Knicks size large

2010-11-15 Thread ccanter
Grey with blue. Recently purchased, one ride.   How's 50 bucks and
free ConUS shipping sound?
Would consider trade for MUSA pants in Large size, or MUSA shirt XL.
Wool arm and or leg warmers.  What ya got?
Thanks,
Clyde Canter

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[RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding

2010-11-15 Thread Angus
James,

I am a person whose fingers go numb prior to other body parts getting
cold (even though I live in the south).  I have experimented with
several types of gloves/mittens/etc. and found, for me, the most
important thing is to have something to stop the wind.  With my hands,
a windproof glove with less insulation works better than a non-
windproof glove with more.  YMMV.

Angus

On Nov 12, 3:49 pm, james  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter
> coming I'm thinking about my hands.  Last Winter they got cold often
> and I think I need some mittens.  My ideal would be all natural
> materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner.  Even better would
> be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover
> for if the hands get hot.  Has anyone seen something like this?  I've
> been scouring the web with no luck.  Anyone seen anything like this or
> use them?
>
> james

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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread Tom M
Chrome Arnhems and Five Ten low-tops. I need stiff soles. My single-
speed has MKS GR-9 pedals with Velo Orange half clips.

On Nov 14, 11:16 pm, Fai Mao  wrote:
> I ride in cheap sneakers.
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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread scott
Combat boots work well. I've got some older Carolinas, made in the
USA. Summer it is teva and keen sandals. Or anything really.

On Nov 15, 6:05 am, Tom M  wrote:
> Chrome Arnhems and Five Ten low-tops. I need stiff soles. My single-
> speed has MKS GR-9 pedals with Velo Orange half clips.
>
> On Nov 14, 11:16 pm, Fai Mao  wrote:
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> > I ride in cheap sneakers.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Trail

2010-11-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 22:05 -0800, doug peterson wrote:
> Kelly:
> 
> +1 for Jim's suggestions.  It's one of those topics that can make for
> endless hours of esoteric discussion, but don't let yourself get
> wrapped around the axle over it.  Two of the most intelligent &
> qualified people to have opinions on bicycle design, Grant Petersen &
> Jan Heine, are at polar opposites on the issue.  Fun to understand?
> Sure.  How do all the elements of bike design interact?  Beats me.


Grant's #1 point is, you get used to the bike you're riding and soon you
don't notice the differences.  I think that's true, but only up to a
point: getting used to a bike won't make wheel flop at low speed go
away; and, Grant likes to carry his luggage in back.  He's not a fan of
front-loading or of handlebar bags.  If you want to carry weight up
front, high trail ranges from "less than optimal" to "outright
horrible".  

I suppose you could say, "Why would you want to carry weight up front?"
but that ignores the incredible handiness of handlebar bags.  They got a
horrible reputation when people tried to use them on bikes with
unsuitable geometry -- I know, I did it and formed that same opinion
myself -- but when used with a bike designed around them, with suitable
geometry, they don't disturb the handling at all, you never notice the
weight, steering is great and there's still the incredible handiness of
having the stuff right there where you can get at it while you're
moving, or stopped, both feet on the ground, straddling the bike.



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[RBW] Re: Trail

2010-11-15 Thread Tim McNamara


On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:


On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 22:05 -0800, doug peterson wrote:

Kelly:

+1 for Jim's suggestions.  It's one of those topics that can make for
endless hours of esoteric discussion, but don't let yourself get
wrapped around the axle over it.  Two of the most intelligent &
qualified people to have opinions on bicycle design, Grant Petersen &
Jan Heine, are at polar opposites on the issue.  Fun to understand?
Sure.  How do all the elements of bike design interact?  Beats me.



Grant's #1 point is, you get used to the bike you're riding and  
soon you

don't notice the differences.


I also agree with you on this, I have bikes ranging from what I  
consider normal trail (60 mm) to medium trail (50-55 mm;  
interestingly enough, one is my Rivendell All-Rounder, which always  
has a handlebar bag on the front mini rack).  They feel different for  
about 100 yards and then the differences aren't noticeable.  I  
haven't liked the low-trail bikes I have ridden.  I think there is a  
reason that these have faded from the market place, which is that  
road bikes with trail around 60 mm feel better to most riders.  I  
also haven't found the problems that some complain about such as  
being unable to adjust my line in mid-corner.


My Riv, with medium trail, long wheelbase and 32 mm tires is a very  
stable, pleasant bike to ride for long distances.  With lower trail  
bikes, I think longer wheelbases are necessary for adequate  
stability.  With a lot of trail, the wheelbase probably needs to be  
shorter to avoid the bike being too stable.



I think that's true, but only up to a
point: getting used to a bike won't make wheel flop at low speed go
away; and, Grant likes to carry his luggage in back.  He's not a  
fan of

front-loading or of handlebar bags.


Given all the photos of Grant riding bikes with baskets up front and  
lots of stuff in them, as well as the many front-loading bags and  
racks Rivendell offers, I don't think that you are correct in this.


If you want to carry weight up front, high trail ranges from "less  
than optimal" to "outright horrible".


My experience with bikes over the years suggests that there is more  
to it than trail.  I have heard from a number of people who've ridden  
low-trail Kogswell PRs and were underwhelmed by the handling with and  
without a front load.  I've also heard from people who really like  
them and low trail bikes.


I think that Jim's suggestions to the OP were good.  Trail seems to  
be an abstruse and easily-misunderstood aspect of frame designing.   
The ideal situation is to be able to test ride bikes with different  
geometries and see which you like best.  Trying to hash it out here  
will just result in one of those long and maybe not-so-pleasant  
threads where we tend to mistake our own preferences for objective fact.


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Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread rperks
I live a block from the beach and more than half of my rides are along
the coast here in Ca.  Every time I clean the roadeo I get paranoid
and go look at the pictures I took when I recieved the frame ot figure
out of the rust is spreading.  It is not, just my paranioa.  The other
unfortunate aspect of this is that I have two Ocean Engineering
Degrees with a specialty in corrosion.  While no coating is imune to
failure, application is usually the key.  The raw factor is what
likely compromises these the most, not the clear.  If the bike were
detailed with a scotchbrite pad or blasted and then solvent wiped the
clear coat would likely outlive us, and you sure would know if any
visual rust were new.  In the case of most pigment coatings, the same
surface rust likely lies iunder the coating as well, you just never
see it, and if you go in fo ra recoat, they blast it off anyway.

Have you ever seen pictures of a brazed bike coming out of the bath to
remove the flux?  it is not pretty is you have any kind of rust
phobia.

Rob

On Nov 14, 9:29 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> We probably over-react to rust, especially here in So Cal.  Rust means
> deterioration but there are lots of ancient, rusty beach cruisers
> still in use.  Granted, they are probably made from heavier gauge
> tubing but it's also likely to be a lower grade of steel than a
> Rivendell.  My guess is a bit of surface rust is more an aesthetic
> concern than a structural one.
>
> dougP
>
> On Nov 14, 12:52 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
> > James, clear powdercoat is quickly becoming one of my favorites.  They are
> > just great to look at.  I love the raw finish where you can see the
> > manufacture's markings, and builders file marks and even thumb prints!  The
> > verdict is still out on whether they are susceptible to rust though.
>
> > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, james black  wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 07:50, rperks  wrote:
> > > > James, thanks for the complement on the bike, the RCP is fun, but much
> > > > like Esteban has said in the past, I spend too much time thinking
> > > > about what color I would like it to be next.  In a way it is like
> > > > having an unpainted frame that you feel compelled to add color, but
> > > > with no real threat of rust you have way too much time to sort it out.
>
> > > I was thinking about this idea this morning. I like the Roadeo clear
> > > powdercoat look because it has a nice warm brown-grey tone and an
> > > inherent richness and texture to it, and it shows off the details very
> > > nicely - the contrasting color of the brazing is like lug pinstriping,
> > > but integral rather than cosmetic; the forged dropouts and their
> > > connection to the stays stand out. It has a kind of Lou Kahn-style
> > > integrity.
>
> > > The iconic Modern architect Lou Kahn is perhaps best remembered by the
> > > cliche that he asked the brick what it wanted to be, and the brick
> > > told him, it wanted to be an arch. His architecture stressed the
> > > ethical imperative of expressing the inherent truth of the materials
> > > from which it was built - if an element looked like a column, it
> > > definitely was supporting something structurally. Something fake or
> > > meant to imitate something else would be a deep ethical failure. A
> > > concrete guardrail would be separated from a concrete column, rather
> > > than poured integrally and seamlessly, because it performed a
> > > different function. Materials such as brick, stone, concrete, and wood
> > > were favored rather than painted surfaces, because with these
> > > materials, the material itself could be exposed unpainted and allowed
> > > to express itself, and these materials weather well and were allowed
> > > to do so.
>
> > > I see an analogy between the Lou Kahn mindset and the Rivendell
> > > mindset that favors natural materials like canvas, leather, wood,
> > > cork, and unpainted silver metal finishes. These materials are also
> > > favored for their integrity and attribute of weathering naturally and
> > > gracefully.
>
> > > The clear powdercoat allows the steel bicycle frame to join the family
> > > of materials that aesthetically express their own materiality without
> > > relying on pigmented paint. Lou Kahn would prefer an unfinished
> > > titanium frame perhaps, but the clear powdercoat fits the Rivendell
> > > ethic-or-aesthetic quite appropriately.
>
> > > James Black
> > > Los Angeles, CA
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> > *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would
> > proba

[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread Peter Pesce
+ another 1 for Keens.
I have the "Commuter" sandal which has a stiff sole and can accept
cleats, though I don't use them. They are great down to about 45 deg
with wool socks, and they are quite a bit narrower than regular Keens,
which is good on the bike, but a bit less good for walking around.

I find that for rides longer than 30 minutes the sole of my regular
Keen sandals isn't stiff enough, and I start to feel pressure points
from the pedal (VO Touring in my case.) A bigger platform pedal would
probably solve that if I wanted to.

-Pete

On Nov 14, 7:33 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
> Nope, the bike-specific Keen Coronados i've got are cleat-free (no place to 
> attach them).  
>
> Keen does make similar shoes with cleat-attachments, and sandals like that 
> too, but the bike ones I'm talking about are just less flexy in the sole and 
> upper than the lighter-weight canvas Coronados.  
>
> Best,
> Andrew
>
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the tip on the bike-specific ones... I've thought about the
> > Coronados but have never tried them on. They'll be next on my try-on
> > list now. You use the bike-specific ones on Grip Kings? Does their
> > bike-specificity extend to having cleats? I like the idea of the
> > stiffer sole but would balk at cleats I think.
>
> > Yours,
> > Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> > On Nov 14, 5:53 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
> >> +1 on Keens.
>
> >> I've got two pairs of Keen Coronados; one canvas pair, and one "bike" pair 
> >> that's heavier material (suede?) with a stiffer sole.
> >> both work fine for cycling on Grip Kings, Sneaker Pedals, etc.  and allow 
> >> my wide feet plenty of room with the enclosed toe-box.
>
> >> The bike-specifc ones are my choice for longer rides, as the sole gives 
> >> less.  
> >> And an FYI to anyone looking at these - the bike ones run 1/2 a size 
> >> smaller than the non-bike ones.
>
> >> best,
> >> andrew
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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread Earl Grey
My favorite "shoes" for everything including commuting are the Chaco
Flip leather flip flops. Their only shortcoming is the fact that the
strap is made out of a double layer of very thin nubuck, and my first
pair cracked after 2 years of almost no-stop daily use, despite
judicious use of Proofide. The similar Cordonazo seems to have thicker
leather straps.

But Chaco replaced them under warranty, so I'll keep wearing them.
Utterly comfortable, just the right amount of arch support for me, and
no plastic-induced stink. When these wear out and don't get replaced,
I'll try some of these Piper Sandals: handmade by a family in Texas,
$120, and they do custom as well: http://www.pipersandals.com/

For longer rides I use Chaco plastic sandals, or Keen sandals when
heading through thorny underbrush or when it gets cold (<60 F).

Gernot



On Nov 15, 7:17 pm, scott  wrote:
> Combat boots work well. I've got some older Carolinas, made in the
> USA. Summer it is teva and keen sandals. Or anything really.
>
> On Nov 15, 6:05 am, Tom M  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Chrome Arnhems and Five Ten low-tops. I need stiff soles. My single-
> > speed has MKS GR-9 pedals with Velo Orange half clips.
>
> > On Nov 14, 11:16 pm, Fai Mao  wrote:
>
> > > I ride in cheap sneakers.

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread sjauch
Count me in and maybe my girlfriend if I can talk her into it. I'm in
NYC so something close would be nice, PA or southern NY.

On Nov 14, 8:59 am, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> I've come to realize that the average Rivendell rider is a bit more
> passionate about riding (and about life in general) than the average
> bike rider.  That alone makes me want to meet and ride with you all
> (even though I know that's not so practical).  Here on the east coast
> I haven't found too many Riv owners (yet)... but I hope to change
> that.  So I've got an idea in my head about arranging for a Rivendell
> Rally/Ride in the Spring.  I'm putting the word out now, in hopes that
> a few more folks in the East/Northeast will share an interest in an
> event like this.
>
> I'm looking to plan a weekend gathering/ride to take place somewhere
> perhaps in the Southern NY State / Northern PA area.  It could be
> point-to-point (with light gear) or 2 days of out-and-back, depending
> on the location.  The emphasis will be on finding scenic routes with a
> good combination of dirt roads, trails, and back roads... with few or
> no cars.  Oh, and there must be a nice inn/B&B at the end of the day
> that serves a good selection of beer and food... (I mean, no sense in
> roughing it, right???)
>
> If you're interested in joining (and/or have some good ideas for
> locations), please let me know.  Post here, or email me...
> montclairbob...@gmail.com
>
> Let the Rivendell Rally begin!!!
>
> Peace,
> BB

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread Ginz
Please put this Philly-based rider on the the list as well!

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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread Ginz
Gola Harriers in Suede.  They are indoor soccer shoes, similar in
style to the Adidas Samba but with a durable suede upper and trendy
good looks. :)

They are narrow.  So, wider feet need not bother.  However, they work
well on the narrowest track pedals and toe clips.  Difficult to find
in the USA, best to order directly from the USA Gola Store.

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Re: [RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I agree; I feel insecure without some sort of retention.

Interesting: I went back to clipless (SPD and Look) on my two Rivs,
both fixed gears, and find, even now, after a year, that getting into
the clipless pedals is harder than getting into clips and straps, even
using slotted cleats. (The SPDs are old and very nice but single sided
Dura Ace SPDs from years ago.) Frantic Fred Fumble all too often. BUT,
once in, no desire to change back.

Since I don't wear outdoor shoes inside the house -- one practice I
keep from my Chinese American ex-wife -- I have to put on shoes anyway
for a ride, and slipping into SPD sandals is as easy as slipping into
anything else.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Ryan  wrote:
> Those Sidi touring shoes Riv used to sell. When I resurrected my old
> Peugeot PX-10 as a single-speed I tried the retentionless pedal thing
> with MKS touring style (but narrower) that I tried riding w. trail
> runners, my Sidis, but without toe-clips and straps...I know...a bike
> you can hop on and ride with any shoe sounds like a great idea, but
> back on went the toe clips and straps. I just didn't feel right. What
> can I say?
>
> On Nov 14, 4:53 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean 
> wrote:
>> Keen, any variety.
>>
>> I have one nominally waterproof pair, and two other active pairs, and
>> two "beater" pairs that no longer look right and have lots of wear but
>> just will not die. They all have big wide toe-boxes and just generally
>> work well for me (on Grip King pedals and for just walking around).
>> Plenty of room therein for the wool socks, even a couple of layers. As
>> soon as they're available, I think I'll add some Splats to the
>> wardrobe, to enhance the Defense Against the Cold Water Arts.
>>
>> Oh, and I have Keen sandals, too. In which I ride in very warm and
>> warm-and-wet weather. Sandals with a toe-box. I love it.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>
>> On Nov 14, 4:45 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I saw mention of shoes on the pedal discussion, and decided to spawn a
>> > new discussion...  What kind of shoes do you all ride with???  (I've
>> > recently changed my perspective on shoes.)
>>
>> > Since owning my Bombadil I've virtually ceased using my SPD shoes.  My
>> > pedals are Nashbar Rodeo 2 pedals, which have SPD bindings on one
>> > side, platform on the other... Instead I ride my favorite, most
>> > comfortable shoes, Ecco Country Walkers... I never would have
>> > previously considered riding in my "street" shoes, which I now realize
>> > is totally absurd.  Riding with these shoes puts a smile on my face.
>> > Best of all, when I arrive (wherever it is I arrive at), I'm wearing
>> > my favorite shoes.
>>
>> > BB
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[RBW] Hilsen fender and tire question

2010-11-15 Thread Mike
Hey, wondering if anyone out there is using fenders on their Hilsen
with 700x40 Marathon Supremes. I've run 700x40 Marathons on my Hilsen
before and it really didn't want to accommodate fenders. I think Grant
uses fenders with 40s on his Hilsen but it sure looks tight. What
about with Supremes? Do they run even smaller than standard Marathons?
I'm using Silver brakes.

RBW is supposed to have 700c Marathon Supremes back in stock this week
and I'm considering maybe trying the 40s. Originally I was gonna go
with 35s but if the 40s play well with fenders why not try them.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding

2010-11-15 Thread David Sprunger
I notice that Henry died last winter and his family is filling order
from remaining stock. Does anyone know how plentiful the stock is?  I
sent an email but haven't heard back.

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM, hobie  wrote:
>> I just tried a friends unlined Dearskin,Elkskin chopper mitts w. wool
>> mitten  inserts. The best I've ever tried for cold weather. Dulth Pack
>> has a nice pair.
>>
>
>
> I think the Duluth Pack Choppers are the same are Henry from Ely's
> choppers I mentioned earlier.  I like them a lot.
>
> http://www.henrysshoerepair.com/moosehide%20chopper%20mittens.html
> http://duluthpack.com/moose-hide-choppers.html
>
> Dan Abelson
> St. Paul, MN
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[RBW] Misc Stuff FS

2010-11-15 Thread Eric Norris
Brake pads and derailleurs have been sold.  Assortment of light mounts is still 
available.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Question 'bout clip 'n' strap pedals: one reason I changed back to
clipless is that, at least on the narrow RX-1 and Wellgo track pedals
I was using, my feet would migrate sideways and end up rubbing
(especally my right foot bunion) on the admittedly very straight
up-and-down Cyclotourist and Stronglight cranks; this happened both
with my Rivat cleated shoes and the street shoes I wore. The only clip
and strap pedals that avoided this problem are the MKS touring pedals,
but as wide as they are, and with the spindle so offset to the
outside, they considerably augment the Q. Does anyone else using clips
and straps have this problem? My feet are not that wide (well, the
bunion is wide, but I had the same issue with my left foot) and only
size 10/44. And, the RX-1s had little tabs in the inside to keep the
strap in place, too.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Ginz  wrote:
> Gola Harriers in Suede.  They are indoor soccer shoes, similar in
> style to the Adidas Samba but with a durable suede upper and trendy
> good looks. :)
>
> They are narrow.  So, wider feet need not bother.  However, they work
> well on the narrowest track pedals and toe clips.  Difficult to find
> in the USA, best to order directly from the USA Gola Store.
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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Boy, the list is GROWING  I hope to have the destination and date
nailed down by the weekend... stay tuned.

BB

On Nov 15, 10:01 am, Ginz  wrote:
> Please put this Philly-based rider on the the list as well!

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[RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread Travis
+1 on Wellgo MG-1's. They are sort of the go to, best value, lightish
bmx/mtb pedal. I just got a pair a couple of days ago.

My concerns were similar to the OP's. The MG-1's are plenty grippy,
but you could file down or remove extra grip pegs if you get hot
spots, without permanently altering the pedal.

As far as cornering clearance goes, you may not want to use these on a
fixed gear bike, but I haven't had any problems with my freewheel bike
- and I should mention the reason I went to platforms and then wider
platforms was because my frame has such a low bottom bracket that
using clips and straps was intolerable in city traffic (terrible
grinding on every first stroke after starting from a stop) - I built
the frame myself and did not anticipate this. Anyway, even though
you'd think cornering clearance would be a big problem for me, it is
not. I also own a modern racing bike with which I love to pedal
through tight turns and push my luck, but on my comfy steel ride I
have no problem coasting through sharp turns.

I think the main reason BMX style pedals are not considered more often
is because they just don't look as elegant on our bikes as we'd like -
but hey, find some big, silver platforms that look halfway decent and
I bet you're distaste will melt away with the comfort and ease of use.

Best,
Travis in NYC

On Nov 14, 8:34 pm, EricP  wrote:
> Right now, my winter bike has the MKS sneaker pedals which work, but
> will probably switch to one of the BMX pedals sitting around for
> better grip with winter boots.  The RMX can get slippery in wet/snowy
> conditions.  However, do like the reflectors for riding after dark.
>
> Agree with George, BMX pedals can be all over the board.  Happen to
> know that Jim Thill has recently built a bike with Tioga Spider pedals
> that look promising for weight and cornering clearance.
>
> BTW, the Wellgo pedals look like the old Shimano MX pedals.  One of
> the early great mountain bike pedals.  They are available in a modern
> version, although the price is not cheap.
>
> Now, a modern version of the old Suntour "Beartrap" would be about
> perfect.  Cartridge bearing, very grippy surface.  Then again, my wife
> has scars on her leg from an ill-timed pedal slip.  So maybe not the
> best? (At least they were safer than the Cook Bros.  Those were
> sharp.  Literally.)
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Nov 14, 6:53 pm, George Schick  wrote:
>
> > I like BMX pedals, too, and have converted all of my bikes over to 'em
> > - mainly because of foot pain issues, though, associated with cleated
> > shoes.  But as far as quality is concerned (and maybe Jim over at
> > Hiawatha can jump in here to confirm) BMX pedals are all across the
> > board.  Cheaper ones do have cheap and rougher feeling bearings.  But
> > you can pay over a hundred dollars for some that are very light
> > weight, made from alloy, with much more refined bearings - and with
> > smaller, less protruding pins, too.
>
> > On Nov 14, 11:52 am, RonaTD  wrote:
>
> > > > Because a lot of Riv discussion seems to focus on pedaling free and
> > > > finding the perfect pedal for doing so, is there some reason BMX-style
> > > > pedals aren't more frequently considered?
>
> > > The biggest issues I think people have with BMX pedals are weight and
> > > cornering clearance. Obviously, the wider the pedal, the less the
> > > cornering clearance. Grant tries to address that with the shape of the
> > > GripKing, but inevitably a pedal with "sufficient" corner clearance
> > > will feel narrow to someone who's ridden on something wider.
>
> > > The "right" pedal width depends very much on the shoes you are
> > > wearing. For example, I have some Tioga pedals that are fairly narrow
> > > (and lovely light). They work great with my Allen Edmonds "Mitchell"
> > > business casual shoes, pretty well with my Salomon trail runners, but
> > > no so great with Tevas. Teva sandals tend to have a very wide forefoot
> > > that requires you to move your feet farther away from the crank arm,
> > > so they require a pretty wide pedal.
>
> > > An issue I have with MKS pedals in general is that the bearing bulges
> > > are too prominent and ruin the shoe-pedal interface. The lovely Sidi
> > > touring shoes I have, for example, are useless on MKS touring pedals.
> > > The RMX sneaker pedals are a notable exception and are fabulous with
> > > Tevas.
>
> > > Bottom line for me is that you need to consider both the shoe and the
> > > pedal together. Wider pedals will work with a broader range of shoes,
> > > but at the cost of corner clearance and weight. This being the RBW
> > > list, those might not be such big issues for you. However, if you ride
> > > a fixed gear, corner clearance should be a concern.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding

2010-11-15 Thread Dan Abelson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:37 AM, David Sprunger  wrote:
> I notice that Henry died last winter and his family is filling order
> from remaining stock. Does anyone know how plentiful the stock is?  I
> sent an email but haven't heard back.


I don't know how plentiful the stock is but it seems that Duluth Pack
still has his mittens in stock.

http://duluthpack.com/moose-hide-choppers.html

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread LBleriot
Louis B. and I woud be interested in taking a drive to PA for weekend
ride.  Count me in.

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[RBW] Re: Hilsen fender and tire question

2010-11-15 Thread William
Probably not the data point you need, but my 650B Hilsen with Silvers
currently has Pari-Moto 38's along with SKS fenders.  It's cozy, but I
wouldn't call it tight.  I certainly didn't have to do any advanced
maneuvers to get the setup to work.

On Nov 15, 7:13 am, Mike  wrote:
> Hey, wondering if anyone out there is using fenders on their Hilsen
> with 700x40 Marathon Supremes. I've run 700x40 Marathons on my Hilsen
> before and it really didn't want to accommodate fenders. I think Grant
> uses fenders with 40s on his Hilsen but it sure looks tight. What
> about with Supremes? Do they run even smaller than standard Marathons?
> I'm using Silver brakes.
>
> RBW is supposed to have 700c Marathon Supremes back in stock this week
> and I'm considering maybe trying the 40s. Originally I was gonna go
> with 35s but if the 40s play well with fenders why not try them.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread Michael_S
I'll buck the trend... I love my SPD Specialied MTB shoes with the
varus wedge design. Since I found these about 7-8 years ago I've used
nothing else for a serious ride. B4 that I always had inside knee
soreness on long rides.

Around town I use my Chacos sandals.

~Mike~

On Nov 15, 7:46 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Question 'bout clip 'n' strap pedals: one reason I changed back to
> clipless is that, at least on the narrow RX-1 and Wellgo track pedals
> I was using, my feet would migrate sideways and end up rubbing
> (especally my right foot bunion) on the admittedly very straight
> up-and-down Cyclotourist and Stronglight cranks; this happened both
> with my Rivat cleated shoes and the street shoes I wore. The only clip
> and strap pedals that avoided this problem are the MKS touring pedals,
> but as wide as they are, and with the spindle so offset to the
> outside, they considerably augment the Q. Does anyone else using clips
> and straps have this problem? My feet are not that wide (well, the
> bunion is wide, but I had the same issue with my left foot) and only
> size 10/44. And, the RX-1s had little tabs in the inside to keep the
> strap in place, too.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Ginz  wrote:
> > Gola Harriers in Suede.  They are indoor soccer shoes, similar in
> > style to the Adidas Samba but with a durable suede upper and trendy
> > good looks. :)
>
> > They are narrow.  So, wider feet need not bother.  However, they work
> > well on the narrowest track pedals and toe clips.  Difficult to find
> > in the USA, best to order directly from the USA Gola Store.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread Rene Sterental
I use the se for mountain biking on my dual suspension. Want to be
firmly engaged to the bike when it's bouncing all over the place or
when struggling to keep pushing on a very steep uphill.

Cannot stand being clipped on the Rivendells and love the ability to
move my foot around and find the sweet spot for no pain!

René

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Michael_S  wrote:

> I'll buck the trend... I love my SPD Specialied MTB shoes with the
> varus wedge design. Since I found these about 7-8 years ago I've used
> nothing else for a serious ride. B4 that I always had inside knee
> soreness on long rides.
>
> Around town I use my Chacos sandals.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Nov 15, 7:46 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> Question 'bout clip 'n' strap pedals: one reason I changed back to
>> clipless is that, at least on the narrow RX-1 and Wellgo track pedals
>> I was using, my feet would migrate sideways and end up rubbing
>> (especally my right foot bunion) on the admittedly very straight
>> up-and-down Cyclotourist and Stronglight cranks; this happened both
>> with my Rivat cleated shoes and the street shoes I wore. The only clip
>> and strap pedals that avoided this problem are the MKS touring pedals,
>> but as wide as they are, and with the spindle so offset to the
>> outside, they considerably augment the Q. Does anyone else using clips
>> and straps have this problem? My feet are not that wide (well, the
>> bunion is wide, but I had the same issue with my left foot) and only
>> size 10/44. And, the RX-1s had little tabs in the inside to keep the
>> strap in place, too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Ginz  wrote:
>>> Gola Harriers in Suede.  They are indoor soccer shoes, similar in
>>> style to the Adidas Samba but with a durable suede upper and trendy
>>> good looks. :)
>>
>>> They are narrow.  So, wider feet need not bother.  However, they work
>>> well on the narrowest track pedals and toe clips.  Difficult to find
>>> in the USA, best to order directly from the USA Gola Store.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread William
The four things I dislike about the typical BMX pedal solution are, in
decending order of importance:

1.  You can't easily modify them.  Whatever the size and shape of the
platform is, that's all it will ever be.  If it's perfect, then you're
set.  If it's not, put them in the parts box and try again.  I like
being able to modify my own stuff to make it just right.  I'm a former
mechanic, a mechanical engineer, and an avid DIY guy, so fabricating,
personalizing and otherwise modifying my own stuff is something that I
enjoy doing and that I think about often.  In my brain I have at least
a half-dozen concepts for things that I'll change, build or design in
my mind.  Sometimes I admit it's just to see if I can make something
that maybe is 'good-enough' to be just a little bit better.  In
particular with Freeride pedals, if they are too wide, there is no way
to make them less wide.
2.  Cost.  I like the $27 price point of the sneaker.  I don't think
it's a good value to spend $80 to $100 for something that I can't
modify.  Tioga Spyders for example, seem to narrow side to side, and
there is no easy way to change that.  The Grip Kings at $55 were easy
to change.
3.  Looks.  It's vain, I know, but the BMX/freeride pedals just don't
look good to me.
4.  Riv doesn't sell them.  This is the least important one, but as
somebody who has rarely paid retail for bike parts, I try to divert as
many of my retail bike dollars towards Riv as possible.  I helped run
a small bike shop that was the barely sustainable living wage for
about 20 people and I remember how stressful and financially
challenging that was, so I try to do my part to figure out as many
ways as possible to spend the dollars at Riv.  Don't get me wrong.  If
I know I want part X and they only have part D and G, I'll go buy part
X wherever I have to buy it.

On Nov 15, 7:48 am, Travis  wrote:
> +1 on Wellgo MG-1's. They are sort of the go to, best value, lightish
> bmx/mtb pedal. I just got a pair a couple of days ago.
>
> My concerns were similar to the OP's. The MG-1's are plenty grippy,
> but you could file down or remove extra grip pegs if you get hot
> spots, without permanently altering the pedal.
>
> As far as cornering clearance goes, you may not want to use these on a
> fixed gear bike, but I haven't had any problems with my freewheel bike
> - and I should mention the reason I went to platforms and then wider
> platforms was because my frame has such a low bottom bracket that
> using clips and straps was intolerable in city traffic (terrible
> grinding on every first stroke after starting from a stop) - I built
> the frame myself and did not anticipate this. Anyway, even though
> you'd think cornering clearance would be a big problem for me, it is
> not. I also own a modern racing bike with which I love to pedal
> through tight turns and push my luck, but on my comfy steel ride I
> have no problem coasting through sharp turns.
>
> I think the main reason BMX style pedals are not considered more often
> is because they just don't look as elegant on our bikes as we'd like -
> but hey, find some big, silver platforms that look halfway decent and
> I bet you're distaste will melt away with the comfort and ease of use.
>
> Best,
> Travis in NYC
>
> On Nov 14, 8:34 pm, EricP  wrote:
>
> > Right now, my winter bike has the MKS sneaker pedals which work, but
> > will probably switch to one of the BMX pedals sitting around for
> > better grip with winter boots.  The RMX can get slippery in wet/snowy
> > conditions.  However, do like the reflectors for riding after dark.
>
> > Agree with George, BMX pedals can be all over the board.  Happen to
> > know that Jim Thill has recently built a bike with Tioga Spider pedals
> > that look promising for weight and cornering clearance.
>
> > BTW, the Wellgo pedals look like the old Shimano MX pedals.  One of
> > the early great mountain bike pedals.  They are available in a modern
> > version, although the price is not cheap.
>
> > Now, a modern version of the old Suntour "Beartrap" would be about
> > perfect.  Cartridge bearing, very grippy surface.  Then again, my wife
> > has scars on her leg from an ill-timed pedal slip.  So maybe not the
> > best? (At least they were safer than the Cook Bros.  Those were
> > sharp.  Literally.)
>
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
>
> > On Nov 14, 6:53 pm, George Schick  wrote:
>
> > > I like BMX pedals, too, and have converted all of my bikes over to 'em
> > > - mainly because of foot pain issues, though, associated with cleated
> > > shoes.  But as far as quality is concerned (and maybe Jim over at
> > > Hiawatha can jump in here to confirm) BMX pedals are all across the
> > > board.  Cheaper ones do have cheap and rougher feeling bearings.  But
> > > you can pay over a hundred dollars for some that are very light
> > > weight, made from alloy, with much more refined bearings - and with
> > > smaller, less protruding pins, too.
>
> > > On Nov 14, 11:52 am, RonaTD  wrote:
>
> > > 

[RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread William
Those MG-1's are pretty slick.  Maybe I'll give them a try someday.

On Nov 15, 7:48 am, Travis  wrote:
> +1 on Wellgo MG-1's. They are sort of the go to, best value, lightish
> bmx/mtb pedal. I just got a pair a couple of days ago.
>
> My concerns were similar to the OP's. The MG-1's are plenty grippy,
> but you could file down or remove extra grip pegs if you get hot
> spots, without permanently altering the pedal.
>
> As far as cornering clearance goes, you may not want to use these on a
> fixed gear bike, but I haven't had any problems with my freewheel bike
> - and I should mention the reason I went to platforms and then wider
> platforms was because my frame has such a low bottom bracket that
> using clips and straps was intolerable in city traffic (terrible
> grinding on every first stroke after starting from a stop) - I built
> the frame myself and did not anticipate this. Anyway, even though
> you'd think cornering clearance would be a big problem for me, it is
> not. I also own a modern racing bike with which I love to pedal
> through tight turns and push my luck, but on my comfy steel ride I
> have no problem coasting through sharp turns.
>
> I think the main reason BMX style pedals are not considered more often
> is because they just don't look as elegant on our bikes as we'd like -
> but hey, find some big, silver platforms that look halfway decent and
> I bet you're distaste will melt away with the comfort and ease of use.
>
> Best,
> Travis in NYC
>
> On Nov 14, 8:34 pm, EricP  wrote:
>
> > Right now, my winter bike has the MKS sneaker pedals which work, but
> > will probably switch to one of the BMX pedals sitting around for
> > better grip with winter boots.  The RMX can get slippery in wet/snowy
> > conditions.  However, do like the reflectors for riding after dark.
>
> > Agree with George, BMX pedals can be all over the board.  Happen to
> > know that Jim Thill has recently built a bike with Tioga Spider pedals
> > that look promising for weight and cornering clearance.
>
> > BTW, the Wellgo pedals look like the old Shimano MX pedals.  One of
> > the early great mountain bike pedals.  They are available in a modern
> > version, although the price is not cheap.
>
> > Now, a modern version of the old Suntour "Beartrap" would be about
> > perfect.  Cartridge bearing, very grippy surface.  Then again, my wife
> > has scars on her leg from an ill-timed pedal slip.  So maybe not the
> > best? (At least they were safer than the Cook Bros.  Those were
> > sharp.  Literally.)
>
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
>
> > On Nov 14, 6:53 pm, George Schick  wrote:
>
> > > I like BMX pedals, too, and have converted all of my bikes over to 'em
> > > - mainly because of foot pain issues, though, associated with cleated
> > > shoes.  But as far as quality is concerned (and maybe Jim over at
> > > Hiawatha can jump in here to confirm) BMX pedals are all across the
> > > board.  Cheaper ones do have cheap and rougher feeling bearings.  But
> > > you can pay over a hundred dollars for some that are very light
> > > weight, made from alloy, with much more refined bearings - and with
> > > smaller, less protruding pins, too.
>
> > > On Nov 14, 11:52 am, RonaTD  wrote:
>
> > > > > Because a lot of Riv discussion seems to focus on pedaling free and
> > > > > finding the perfect pedal for doing so, is there some reason BMX-style
> > > > > pedals aren't more frequently considered?
>
> > > > The biggest issues I think people have with BMX pedals are weight and
> > > > cornering clearance. Obviously, the wider the pedal, the less the
> > > > cornering clearance. Grant tries to address that with the shape of the
> > > > GripKing, but inevitably a pedal with "sufficient" corner clearance
> > > > will feel narrow to someone who's ridden on something wider.
>
> > > > The "right" pedal width depends very much on the shoes you are
> > > > wearing. For example, I have some Tioga pedals that are fairly narrow
> > > > (and lovely light). They work great with my Allen Edmonds "Mitchell"
> > > > business casual shoes, pretty well with my Salomon trail runners, but
> > > > no so great with Tevas. Teva sandals tend to have a very wide forefoot
> > > > that requires you to move your feet farther away from the crank arm,
> > > > so they require a pretty wide pedal.
>
> > > > An issue I have with MKS pedals in general is that the bearing bulges
> > > > are too prominent and ruin the shoe-pedal interface. The lovely Sidi
> > > > touring shoes I have, for example, are useless on MKS touring pedals.
> > > > The RMX sneaker pedals are a notable exception and are fabulous with
> > > > Tevas.
>
> > > > Bottom line for me is that you need to consider both the shoe and the
> > > > pedal together. Wider pedals will work with a broader range of shoes,
> > > > but at the cost of corner clearance and weight. This being the RBW
> > > > list, those might not be such big issues for you. However, if you ride
> > > > a fixed gear, corner clearance sho

[RBW] Re: Hilsen fender and tire question

2010-11-15 Thread Adam Kimball
I run 40mm Dureme's (slightly more beefy Supremes) on my Hilsen and
50mm SKS fenders.  Awesome setup - I love it.

-Adam

On Nov 15, 11:10 am, William  wrote:
> Probably not the data point you need, but my 650B Hilsen with Silvers
> currently has Pari-Moto 38's along with SKS fenders.  It's cozy, but I
> wouldn't call it tight.  I certainly didn't have to do any advanced
> maneuvers to get the setup to work.
>
> On Nov 15, 7:13 am, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey, wondering if anyone out there is using fenders on their Hilsen
> > with 700x40 Marathon Supremes. I've run 700x40 Marathons on my Hilsen
> > before and it really didn't want to accommodate fenders. I think Grant
> > uses fenders with 40s on his Hilsen but it sure looks tight. What
> > about with Supremes? Do they run even smaller than standard Marathons?
> > I'm using Silver brakes.
>
> > RBW is supposed to have 700c Marathon Supremes back in stock this week
> > and I'm considering maybe trying the 40s. Originally I was gonna go
> > with 35s but if the 40s play well with fenders why not try them.
>
> > --mike

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[RBW] Re: Hilsen fender and tire question

2010-11-15 Thread William
The thing I'm really curious about is if the new Pacenti Mini-Moto
will fit on a 650B Hilsen with Silvers.  That would be kind of neat!

On Nov 15, 9:50 am, Adam Kimball  wrote:
> I run 40mm Dureme's (slightly more beefy Supremes) on my Hilsen and
> 50mm SKS fenders.  Awesome setup - I love it.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Nov 15, 11:10 am, William  wrote:
>
> > Probably not the data point you need, but my 650B Hilsen with Silvers
> > currently has Pari-Moto 38's along with SKS fenders.  It's cozy, but I
> > wouldn't call it tight.  I certainly didn't have to do any advanced
> > maneuvers to get the setup to work.
>
> > On Nov 15, 7:13 am, Mike  wrote:
>
> > > Hey, wondering if anyone out there is using fenders on their Hilsen
> > > with 700x40 Marathon Supremes. I've run 700x40 Marathons on my Hilsen
> > > before and it really didn't want to accommodate fenders. I think Grant
> > > uses fenders with 40s on his Hilsen but it sure looks tight. What
> > > about with Supremes? Do they run even smaller than standard Marathons?
> > > I'm using Silver brakes.
>
> > > RBW is supposed to have 700c Marathon Supremes back in stock this week
> > > and I'm considering maybe trying the 40s. Originally I was gonna go
> > > with 35s but if the 40s play well with fenders why not try them.
>
> > > --mike
>
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Re: [RBW] Misc Stuff FS

2010-11-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
How much for the light mounts? What was the total you paid for all? Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Misc Stuff FS

2010-11-15 Thread Eric Norris
I'll send any mount for $2.  $12 for all of them.  They're pretty cheap 
themselves, it was the shipping cost that encouraged me to order them all.

--Eric N

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> 
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Re: [RBW] Misc Stuff FS

2010-11-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I'll take them; paypal? Please give me total with shipping to:

Patrick Moore
3512 Nolina Court NW, Albuquerque, NM 87120.

Many thanks.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> I'll send any mount for $2.  $12 for all of them.  They're pretty cheap 
> themselves, it was the shipping cost that encouraged me to order them all.
>
> --Eric N
>
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:01 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>> How much for the light mounts? What was the total you paid for all? Thanks.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
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>>> still available.
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[RBW] Re: SHOES!

2010-11-15 Thread William
I use some of everything.

Sidi Genius and Speedplay lollipop pedals.  Currently on my gofast.  I
like them very much for riding.  They are among the worst ever for
putting one's foot down

Shimano treaded road shoes and Shimano Mountain shoes with Old
generation Shimano SPD pedals (2 pairs of 747's and even a pair or two
of 737s).  I use these a lot.  I use them for mountain riding, and
have them currently on the Hilsen, and on the tandem.

Sidi Cyclocross shoes without cleats.  Detto Cyclocross shoes without
cleats.  MKS Sylvan and Suntour Sprint toe clip and strap pedals.  I
don't have these on any bike right now, but I use them frequently on
the gofast when I tire of the stupid walking characteristics of the
lollipop cleats.  The Detto Shoes are NOS and need some breaking in,
before I decide on some custom outsole mods that I want my cobbler to
do for me.  Maybe those will go back on soon...

Grip King (supremes!) and Sneaker pedals with nearly every shoe I own,
including Vans, Puma Slip ons, Adidas Sambas, and leather dress
shoes.  The only thing that I find that bugs me is that some shoes
have a taller stack up than others.  The Clarks I have on right now
make my saddle feel a few mm too low.

I have some cheap Adidas SPD shoes and a few pairs of cheap wellgo/
Ritchey pedals, but I don't use those really at all anymore.  They
work fine, though, especially the pedals.

On Nov 15, 9:26 am, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> I use the se for mountain biking on my dual suspension. Want to be
> firmly engaged to the bike when it's bouncing all over the place or
> when struggling to keep pushing on a very steep uphill.
>
> Cannot stand being clipped on the Rivendells and love the ability to
> move my foot around and find the sweet spot for no pain!
>
> René
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4
>
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > I'll buck the trend... I love my SPD Specialied MTB shoes with the
> > varus wedge design. Since I found these about 7-8 years ago I've used
> > nothing else for a serious ride. B4 that I always had inside knee
> > soreness on long rides.
>
> > Around town I use my Chacos sandals.
>
> > ~Mike~
>
> > On Nov 15, 7:46 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> >> Question 'bout clip 'n' strap pedals: one reason I changed back to
> >> clipless is that, at least on the narrow RX-1 and Wellgo track pedals
> >> I was using, my feet would migrate sideways and end up rubbing
> >> (especally my right foot bunion) on the admittedly very straight
> >> up-and-down Cyclotourist and Stronglight cranks; this happened both
> >> with my Rivat cleated shoes and the street shoes I wore. The only clip
> >> and strap pedals that avoided this problem are the MKS touring pedals,
> >> but as wide as they are, and with the spindle so offset to the
> >> outside, they considerably augment the Q. Does anyone else using clips
> >> and straps have this problem? My feet are not that wide (well, the
> >> bunion is wide, but I had the same issue with my left foot) and only
> >> size 10/44. And, the RX-1s had little tabs in the inside to keep the
> >> strap in place, too.
>
> >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Ginz  wrote:
> >>> Gola Harriers in Suede.  They are indoor soccer shoes, similar in
> >>> style to the Adidas Samba but with a durable suede upper and trendy
> >>> good looks. :)
>
> >>> They are narrow.  So, wider feet need not bother.  However, they work
> >>> well on the narrowest track pedals and toe clips.  Difficult to find
> >>> in the USA, best to order directly from the USA Gola Store.
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[RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread rperks
Ok I just got the write up done, but my end up polishing it up a bit.
Short link here:

http://wp.me/p19mfs-5c

Yesterday I was working on getting the pics up, and thought I was a
little more achy than I should be, even with the big ride and all.
The the chills, body emptied, feaver hit 102, it was an incredible day
in the polar opposite of what Saturday had been.   And just like a
storm it is over, I am feeling better today, but wholly crap, if that
is anything like what Noel had, he should get a cookie and a medal fo
reven typing in that he could not make it.

and for james, Link to my blog:

http://oceanaircycles.com/
-
Rob

On Nov 14, 2:32 pm, james black  wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 07:50, rperks  wrote:
> > Pics are up, captions, adding to groups etc., and a full write up on
> > my site later tonight.
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157625263351847/
>
> By the way, I forgot to mention: great photos! Thanks for posting. Can
> you give us the address of your blog?
>
> James Black
> Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread Jon Grant
William wrote:

Those MG-1's are pretty slick.  Maybe I'll give them a try someday.

---

A couple of weeks before this thread took up, we bought our first pair of
BMX pedals, then our second.

A friend suggested BMX pedals to improve foot control on my ATB, so I
replaced older Deore rat-trap mountain pedals with the Wellgo B-76. I have
delighted at how well my feet now stay where I put them. My wife rode my
bike and wanted similar pedals for her townie, so I bought Wellgo MG-1's for
her -- bright yellow, of course, to match cable housings, grips, bell, and
decals.

The cast magnesium MG-1 is noticeably lighter in the hand than the machined
aluminum B-76, but I notice no weight difference while riding. Both models
are quite wide, but they live on high-BB bikes ridden by the risk-averse, so
pedal strike is not a practical worry. It's true they're not easily
modified, save the addition or removal of pins -- again, not a real drawback
for me.

We both consider these pedals significant improvements for relatively little
money.

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[RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Nice write up!  The sunset was amazing, although I could only catch it
through the rear view mirror.

Too bad Noel got you sick...


On Nov 15, 10:40 am, rperks  wrote:
> Ok I just got the write up done, but my end up polishing it up a bit.
> Short link here:
>
> http://wp.me/p19mfs-5c
>
> Yesterday I was working on getting the pics up, and thought I was a
> little more achy than I should be, even with the big ride and all.
> The the chills, body emptied, feaver hit 102, it was an incredible day
> in the polar opposite of what Saturday had been.   And just like a
> storm it is over, I am feeling better today, but wholly crap, if that
> is anything like what Noel had, he should get a cookie and a medal fo
> reven typing in that he could not make it.
>
> and for james, Link to my blog:
>
> http://oceanaircycles.com/
> -
> Rob
>
> On Nov 14, 2:32 pm, james black  wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 07:50, rperks  wrote:
> > > Pics are up, captions, adding to groups etc., and a full write up on
> > > my site later tonight.
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157625263351847/
>
> > By the way, I forgot to mention: great photos! Thanks for posting. Can
> > you give us the address of your blog?
>
> > James Black
> > Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread newenglandbike
I use Atomlab Trail Kings, designed by Marvin Loetterlie, on my BMX
bike and now on my bombadil, too.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=1690
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029...@n07/4177613378/

They're extremely low-profile (thin) and the newer models are even
thinner.I haven't tried the newer model, because I can't believe
they'd feel any better than the original Trail Kings, although they do
look nice:

new ones:
http://bmx-bike.org.uk/product/9/6847/Atomlab-Trailking-Pedals.html

I think worrying about reduced pedal-strike clearance (during
cornering) due to wide pedals is kind of silly.   Either don't pedal
through corners, or know your clearance limits really well and you'll
be fine.   I think you can get along great by keeping my inside pedal
up / not pedaling on the fast&sharp turns.



On Nov 15, 12:41 pm, Jon Grant  wrote:
> William wrote:
>
> Those MG-1's are pretty slick.  Maybe I'll give them a try someday.
>
> ---
>
> A couple of weeks before this thread took up, we bought our first pair of
> BMX pedals, then our second.
>
> A friend suggested BMX pedals to improve foot control on my ATB, so I
> replaced older Deore rat-trap mountain pedals with the Wellgo B-76. I have
> delighted at how well my feet now stay where I put them. My wife rode my
> bike and wanted similar pedals for her townie, so I bought Wellgo MG-1's for
> her -- bright yellow, of course, to match cable housings, grips, bell, and
> decals.
>
> The cast magnesium MG-1 is noticeably lighter in the hand than the machined
> aluminum B-76, but I notice no weight difference while riding. Both models
> are quite wide, but they live on high-BB bikes ridden by the risk-averse, so
> pedal strike is not a practical worry. It's true they're not easily
> modified, save the addition or removal of pins -- again, not a real drawback
> for me.
>
> We both consider these pedals significant improvements for relatively little
> money.
>
> --
> Jon "Papa" Grant, in chilly, damp
> Austin, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread newenglandbike
Oh yeah, and another +1 on the MG-1's.   For the money, they are among
the best pedals you can buy IMHO.

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Re: [RBW] Misc Stuff FS

2010-11-15 Thread Eric Norris
Patrick:

$12 for all of them includes shipping.  You can PayPal me at my email address.

Thanks!

--Eric N

On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:06 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> I'll take them; paypal? Please give me total with shipping to:
> 
> Patrick Moore
> 3512 Nolina Court NW, Albuquerque, NM 87120.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
>> I'll send any mount for $2.  $12 for all of them.  They're pretty cheap 
>> themselves, it was the shipping cost that encouraged me to order them all.
>> 
>> --Eric N
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:01 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> 
>>> How much for the light mounts? What was the total you paid for all? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
 Brake pads and derailleurs have been sold.  Assortment of light mounts is 
 still available.
 
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[RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

2010-11-15 Thread William
Those Trailkings look nice.  Violates all four of my reasons for not
liking BMX style pedals above, but still, they look pretty nice.  My
favorite part is that your link also shows that you can buy all the
important replacement parts which is a HUGE plus in my book.
Circlips, bearings, dustcaps, axles.  Double thumbs up for that.  But
$110 plus shipping to get started is kind of steep.  If you know ahead
of time you'll love them, never want to change them, and use them for
5 years, then $125 is arguably a bargain.

On Nov 15, 11:16 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
> I use Atomlab Trail Kings, designed by Marvin Loetterlie, on my BMX
> bike and now on my bombadil, too.
>
> http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=1690http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029...@n07/4177613378/
>
> They're extremely low-profile (thin) and the newer models are even
> thinner.    I haven't tried the newer model, because I can't believe
> they'd feel any better than the original Trail Kings, although they do
> look nice:
>
> new ones:http://bmx-bike.org.uk/product/9/6847/Atomlab-Trailking-Pedals.html
>
> I think worrying about reduced pedal-strike clearance (during
> cornering) due to wide pedals is kind of silly.   Either don't pedal
> through corners, or know your clearance limits really well and you'll
> be fine.   I think you can get along great by keeping my inside pedal
> up / not pedaling on the fast&sharp turns.
>
> On Nov 15, 12:41 pm, Jon Grant  wrote:
>
> > William wrote:
>
> > Those MG-1's are pretty slick.  Maybe I'll give them a try someday.
>
> > ---
>
> > A couple of weeks before this thread took up, we bought our first pair of
> > BMX pedals, then our second.
>
> > A friend suggested BMX pedals to improve foot control on my ATB, so I
> > replaced older Deore rat-trap mountain pedals with the Wellgo B-76. I have
> > delighted at how well my feet now stay where I put them. My wife rode my
> > bike and wanted similar pedals for her townie, so I bought Wellgo MG-1's for
> > her -- bright yellow, of course, to match cable housings, grips, bell, and
> > decals.
>
> > The cast magnesium MG-1 is noticeably lighter in the hand than the machined
> > aluminum B-76, but I notice no weight difference while riding. Both models
> > are quite wide, but they live on high-BB bikes ridden by the risk-averse, so
> > pedal strike is not a practical worry. It's true they're not easily
> > modified, save the addition or removal of pins -- again, not a real drawback
> > for me.
>
> > We both consider these pedals significant improvements for relatively little
> > money.
>
> > --
> > Jon "Papa" Grant, in chilly, damp
> > Austin, Texas
>
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[RBW] Dunk Method Grip Shellac video

2010-11-15 Thread William
Grant has a new grip installation/shellacking video up, including the
dunk method.  Pretty amusing.  Only works with a full can of Bullseye,
though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPcpnylK-4

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Re: [RBW] Dunk Method Grip Shellac video

2010-11-15 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM, William  wrote:
> Grant has a new grip installation/shellacking video up, including the
> dunk method.  Pretty amusing.  Only works with a full can of Bullseye,
> though.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPcpnylK-4

A couple of things which I found make this process easier:

1. old shovel or broom handle
2. put grip onto shovel or broom handle
3. dip into shellac, cover completely, let dry
4. repeat 2 or 3 times.

less chance of dripping onto your bike and having to scrape it off la
-sv

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[RBW] Re: Dunk Method Grip Shellac video

2010-11-15 Thread Esteban
Grant is one of my favorite people in the world.  This video is
genius.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Nov 15, 11:49 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:45 PM, William  wrote:
> > Grant has a new grip installation/shellacking video up, including the
> > dunk method.  Pretty amusing.  Only works with a full can of Bullseye,
> > though.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiPcpnylK-4
>
> A couple of things which I found make this process easier:
>
> 1. old shovel or broom handle
> 2. put grip onto shovel or broom handle
> 3. dip into shellac, cover completely, let dry
> 4. repeat 2 or 3 times.
>
> less chance of dripping onto your bike and having to scrape it off la
> -sv

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[RBW] Got Rivendell Bombadil

2010-11-15 Thread williwoods
I am very stoked

Found this locally about 3 miles from my place. Bought it without a
seat or rear derailleur. Replaced a few parts including new cables and
housing swapped brakes, removed a few links from the chain. Rode a few
times this weekend. Although my ass is sore from the new Brooks B17
special, I am in love!

Rides so smooth and classy all the way. Now just waiting for my slicks
to arrive. Plan on getting a front rack but not sure which one. I like
the Mini racks and marks rack, but I also saw an ahearn rack at a shop
that is amazing. Its more of a 12 pack rack.

Let me know what you guys think, sorry for the lighting. You can see
it pretty good though.

http://tinyurl.com/2brszsr

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mittens for winter riding

2010-11-15 Thread Jay Fichialos
I've been using Barr Mitts for a few winters now and they're great.
http://www.barmitts.com

Recently I finished modifying them to work with bar end shifters. Toasty
warm and I can wear fingerless gloves year round.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/quadmod/5179116140/

Just a happy customer,

-Jay Fichialos




On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:08 AM, EricP  wrote:

> Am also happy with the Wiggy gloves that Rivendell sells.  But after
> seeing Dan's link, might have to buy some of those choppers.
>
> Will be using them today on the first snow ride of the season.  Coming
> down pretty good right now.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Nov 12, 11:02 pm, mike  wrote:
> > It's nothing like you describe, but when it's cold here, my fingers
> > have been happiest in the sort of military gloves that Riv has sold a
> > couple of times in the recent past.  Each finger is in its own little
> > sleeping bag and the outer nylon layer is tight enough to keep out the
> > wind.  Looks like they're not currently on the 'clothing' page.
> > Someone at work compared them to snowmobile gloves.
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2:49 pm, james  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hey all,
> >
> > > I've been enjoying my Hillborne a lot this Autumn but with Winter
> > > coming I'm thinking about my hands.  Last Winter they got cold often
> > > and I think I need some mittens.  My ideal would be all natural
> > > materials--leather outer and wool or rabbit liner.  Even better would
> > > be if it was a leather mitten that also had a pull away finger cover
> > > for if the hands get hot.  Has anyone seen something like this?  I've
> > > been scouring the web with no luck.  Anyone seen anything like this or
> > > use them?
> >
> > > james- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: NY/PA/NJ Rivendell Rally - Spring 2011

2010-11-15 Thread frank
Hi, I'm in Pittsburgh and have done the C&O Canal ride and also the
Great Allegheny Passage (GAP) on my Atlantis.  They are both great
rides.  Pine Creek Gorge sounds good also.  Yes, I'm interested!
Frank

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[RBW] Re: Got Rivendell Bombadil

2010-11-15 Thread rperks
Very nice.

I wish thigs like that were to be found in my neighborhood.  Where do
you find things like that unless you live in Walnut Creek?

For the rack, the Aherne racks are really nice but $$$, I was able to
touch and feel one at Topanga Bicycles, but it was out of my league $
wise.  It was red too, and would look good with the colors you have
there.  It also comes down to what and how much you plan to stuff up
there.  The mini racks are great for smaller loads.

Rob


On Nov 15, 12:03 pm, williwoods  wrote:
> I am very stoked
>
> Found this locally about 3 miles from my place. Bought it without a
> seat or rear derailleur. Replaced a few parts including new cables and
> housing swapped brakes, removed a few links from the chain. Rode a few
> times this weekend. Although my ass is sore from the new Brooks B17
> special, I am in love!
>
> Rides so smooth and classy all the way. Now just waiting for my slicks
> to arrive. Plan on getting a front rack but not sure which one. I like
> the Mini racks and marks rack, but I also saw an ahearn rack at a shop
> that is amazing. Its more of a 12 pack rack.
>
> Let me know what you guys think, sorry for the lighting. You can see
> it pretty good though.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2brszsr

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[RBW] Re: Got Rivendell Bombadil

2010-11-15 Thread William
Congrats!  It looks great.  I just put Soma 38's on my Bomba and will
be doing some roadish rides in that configuration.  Remember the uber
versatility of the Mini Front Rack

1.  Strap something to it
2.  Put a trunksack on it
3.  Use it to support a nice big handlebar bag
4.  Ziptie a nice basket on it
5.  Bolt a platrack to it
  5.a.  Strap EVERYTHING and ANYTHING onto your platrack
  5.b.  Attach a slickersack onto your platrack
6.  Bolt your fender to the underside of your Mini so it never rattles

You don't need or necessarily want a Mark's Rack on the front of a
Bombadil.


On Nov 15, 12:49 pm, rperks  wrote:
> Very nice.
>
> I wish thigs like that were to be found in my neighborhood.  Where do
> you find things like that unless you live in Walnut Creek?
>
> For the rack, the Aherne racks are really nice but $$$, I was able to
> touch and feel one at Topanga Bicycles, but it was out of my league $
> wise.  It was red too, and would look good with the colors you have
> there.  It also comes down to what and how much you plan to stuff up
> there.  The mini racks are great for smaller loads.
>
> Rob
>
> On Nov 15, 12:03 pm, williwoods  wrote:
>
> > I am very stoked
>
> > Found this locally about 3 miles from my place. Bought it without a
> > seat or rear derailleur. Replaced a few parts including new cables and
> > housing swapped brakes, removed a few links from the chain. Rode a few
> > times this weekend. Although my ass is sore from the new Brooks B17
> > special, I am in love!
>
> > Rides so smooth and classy all the way. Now just waiting for my slicks
> > to arrive. Plan on getting a front rack but not sure which one. I like
> > the Mini racks and marks rack, but I also saw an ahearn rack at a shop
> > that is amazing. Its more of a 12 pack rack.
>
> > Let me know what you guys think, sorry for the lighting. You can see
> > it pretty good though.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2brszsr
>
>

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Re: clear powdercoat, was Re: [RBW] Re: Nov SoCal Riv Ride

2010-11-15 Thread Ron MH
I have a clear powder coated Quickbeam and have no visible rust at
all. The corrosion seen on many clear powder coated frames is, I
believe, a function of the frame's preparation prior to the clear
coating. The previous owner of my bike had the original orange paint
removed, then took the frame home and spent hours filing lugs and
sanding the frame prior to the powder coating. The frame went to the
coaters without any rust at all. Thus the steel on my bike looks,
well, like steel. Other clear coated bikes I've seen in person and on
the internets look just a tiny bit rusty; there's a faint brownish
cast to the steel which is not necessarily a bad thing. My frame has
no such cast. Oh, and I live in Portland, Oregon - not exactly the
driest place to ride a bike in.


On Nov 15, 6:13 am, rperks  wrote:
> I live a block from the beach and more than half of my rides are along
> the coast here in Ca.  Every time I clean the roadeo I get paranoid
> and go look at the pictures I took when I recieved the frame ot figure
> out of the rust is spreading.  It is not, just my paranioa.  The other
> unfortunate aspect of this is that I have two Ocean Engineering
> Degrees with a specialty in corrosion.  While no coating is imune to
> failure, application is usually the key.  The raw factor is what
> likely compromises these the most, not the clear.  If the bike were
> detailed with a scotchbrite pad or blasted and then solvent wiped the
> clear coat would likely outlive us, and you sure would know if any
> visual rust were new.  In the case of most pigment coatings, the same
> surface rust likely lies iunder the coating as well, you just never
> see it, and if you go in fo ra recoat, they blast it off anyway.
>
> Have you ever seen pictures of a brazed bike coming out of the bath to
> remove the flux?  it is not pretty is you have any kind of rust
> phobia.
>
> Rob
>
> On Nov 14, 9:29 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
>
>
>
> > We probably over-react to rust, especially here in So Cal.  Rust means
> > deterioration but there are lots of ancient, rusty beach cruisers
> > still in use.  Granted, they are probably made from heavier gauge
> > tubing but it's also likely to be a lower grade of steel than a
> > Rivendell.  My guess is a bit of surface rust is more an aesthetic
> > concern than a structural one.
>
> > dougP
>
> > On Nov 14, 12:52 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > James, clear powdercoat is quickly becoming one of my favorites.  They are
> > > just great to look at.  I love the raw finish where you can see the
> > > manufacture's markings, and builders file marks and even thumb prints!  
> > > The
> > > verdict is still out on whether they are susceptible to rust though.
>
> > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:58 AM, james black  wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 07:50, rperks  wrote:
> > > > > James, thanks for the complement on the bike, the RCP is fun, but much
> > > > > like Esteban has said in the past, I spend too much time thinking
> > > > > about what color I would like it to be next.  In a way it is like
> > > > > having an unpainted frame that you feel compelled to add color, but
> > > > > with no real threat of rust you have way too much time to sort it out.
>
> > > > I was thinking about this idea this morning. I like the Roadeo clear
> > > > powdercoat look because it has a nice warm brown-grey tone and an
> > > > inherent richness and texture to it, and it shows off the details very
> > > > nicely - the contrasting color of the brazing is like lug pinstriping,
> > > > but integral rather than cosmetic; the forged dropouts and their
> > > > connection to the stays stand out. It has a kind of Lou Kahn-style
> > > > integrity.
>
> > > > The iconic Modern architect Lou Kahn is perhaps best remembered by the
> > > > cliche that he asked the brick what it wanted to be, and the brick
> > > > told him, it wanted to be an arch. His architecture stressed the
> > > > ethical imperative of expressing the inherent truth of the materials
> > > > from which it was built - if an element looked like a column, it
> > > > definitely was supporting something structurally. Something fake or
> > > > meant to imitate something else would be a deep ethical failure. A
> > > > concrete guardrail would be separated from a concrete column, rather
> > > > than poured integrally and seamlessly, because it performed a
> > > > different function. Materials such as brick, stone, concrete, and wood
> > > > were favored rather than painted surfaces, because with these
> > > > materials, the material itself could be exposed unpainted and allowed
> > > > to express itself, and these materials weather well and were allowed
> > > > to do so.
>
> > > > I see an analogy between the Lou Kahn mindset and the Rivendell
> > > > mindset that favors natural materials like canvas, leather, wood,
> > > > cork, and unpainted silver metal finishes. These materials are also
> > > > favored for their integrity and attribute of weathering naturally and
> > > > 

[RBW] Re: Got Rivendell Bombadil

2010-11-15 Thread Mike
What a score. That bike looks great, especially with the Bullmoose
bars. The Nitto mini front rack looks like it would be perfect for
that bike, probably better than the Marks rack.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Hilsen fender and tire question

2010-11-15 Thread JB
I've got Planet Bike Cascade 45's on Panaracer Pasela's.  It was a
real hassle to get them on and adjusted and there is not much room.
I'm looking at getting something else (fenders, not bike) for next
year.

John

On Nov 15, 12:59 pm, William  wrote:
> The thing I'm really curious about is if the new Pacenti Mini-Moto
> will fit on a 650B Hilsen with Silvers.  That would be kind of neat!
>
> On Nov 15, 9:50 am, Adam Kimball  wrote:
>
> > I run 40mm Dureme's (slightly more beefy Supremes) on my Hilsen and
> > 50mm SKS fenders.  Awesome setup - I love it.
>
> > -Adam
>
> > On Nov 15, 11:10 am, William  wrote:
>
> > > Probably not the data point you need, but my 650B Hilsen with Silvers
> > > currently has Pari-Moto 38's along with SKS fenders.  It's cozy, but I
> > > wouldn't call it tight.  I certainly didn't have to do any advanced
> > > maneuvers to get the setup to work.
>
> > > On Nov 15, 7:13 am, Mike  wrote:
>
> > > > Hey, wondering if anyone out there is using fenders on their Hilsen
> > > > with 700x40 Marathon Supremes. I've run 700x40 Marathons on my Hilsen
> > > > before and it really didn't want to accommodate fenders. I think Grant
> > > > uses fenders with 40s on his Hilsen but it sure looks tight. What
> > > > about with Supremes? Do they run even smaller than standard Marathons?
> > > > I'm using Silver brakes.
>
> > > > RBW is supposed to have 700c Marathon Supremes back in stock this week
> > > > and I'm considering maybe trying the 40s. Originally I was gonna go
> > > > with 35s but if the 40s play well with fenders why not try them.
>
> > > > --mike

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[RBW] Re: Got Rivendell Bombadil

2010-11-15 Thread newenglandbike
Wow definitely a sweet find.You can't go wrong with a nitto mini
rack and a basket/bungee net combo (you can fit a LOT of stuff in
there).But the cool thing about the bombadil is that it works with
just about any rack.

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