[RBW] Deore V-Brake issue on Hillborne

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Hi!

Building up my Hillborne, I tried to put Deore V-brakes on it.
However, the Deores would not slide all the way down the brake post/
stud/boss/whatever. The pin which anchors the spring in one of the
holes on the brake post did not fully insert into any of the 3 holes.
Also, the front brake was protruding far enough that it interfered
with the mini front rack.

Anybody else have this experience? If so, do you feel the brake will
function reliably with the anchor not fully seated? Did you find a way
to fully seat the anchor?

(I also had some Tektro 857AL brakes; they fit fine. And they also
look stupendously ugly, especially with salmon-colored pads. They
work. But did I mention how ugly they are? Wow, are they ugly. But
this is the sort of sacrifice one makes, since the hideousness of
their ugliness and the shame of being associated with that horrible
sight in any way is far outweighed by the glory of being able to
actually ride one's Hillborne.)

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

More quantity, probably no more quality. It is now ride-able (and is
really nice to ride!). But obviously many things are yet to be done.

http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%202?h=29474f

Previously thought unthinkable, I have discovered that there are in
fact non-weird bikes with Handlebars That Are Too High. Which is truly
great! I'll lower them later. More build pics after fleshing out
stuff...

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Sorry for the delay. There are seat cluster pics in

http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%202?h=29474f

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Jul 1, 11:38 am, "mr.trout"  wrote:
> Could you snap a couple of shots of the seat stay cluster? I'm just a
> little curious to see the difference in brazing between mine and
> yours. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: S24O Report and Video

[Andy.M]

René and Jim,
Thank you!  The camera is a Flip UltraHD, and the little tripod that
goes with it was a huge help.  I edited (which was the first time I
ever used it) with the iMovie app that came preinstalled on my Mac,
super easy to use and have a nice looking final product.
-Andy


On Jul 3, 9:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Very nice takes! Is that an HD Flip? The image quality was superb. Beautiful
> takes and beautiful bike!
>
> René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shorts--MUSA alternatives

[PATRICK MOORE]

Late to the discussion, but anyway: I use well chosen shorts from Goodwill,
where I, at any rate, can find top quality for $4.79. My best are a
Patagonia pair and another, longer one, both of good quality nylon and cut
loose and long enough that they don't dig in in front or slip down in back
when you are bent over the bar. Secured rear pockets, decently loose side
pockets, high enough waist, well made, dry quickly. I wear them over regular
boxers up to 30 miles.

And I've got a number of very tightly woven cotton shorts, cut similarly,
and, apart from getting caught in the rain, they perform as well as the
nylon shorts.

IME, the key is: long enough legs; high enough waist/low enough crotch; and
a cut that is not tight but still trim enough to stay put in the huge wind
of your travel. Oh, and decent bike fit, too.

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:47 PM, EricP  wrote:

> Mostly just the MUSA shorts.  Right now have a pair of XXL on,
> although haven't needed that size in a number of years.  The only time
> they get worn is when it is hot and humid out.  Then the billowing is
> a nice thing.  Eventually will hem the waist strap, which hangs silly
> low now.
>
> Otherwise the MUSA fits me okay.  Sometimes I get hung up on the
> billowing.  But only because my black "diapers" will show.  Could wear
> a L, and have a butternut pair.  But feel the legs are actually too
> tight.  The XL is just loose enough to be comfortable, both on and off
> the bike.
>
> Keep thinking about the Rapha touring shorts, but not sure about their
> sizing.  Had two mediocre experiences with Swobo knickers and have
> been shy of buying actual sized clothing since then.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Build is Coming Along

[RoadieRyan]

Beauty.  Nice build Scott.

On Jul 3, 12:49 am, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
> ...slowly, but steadily.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/4756379069/
>
> And a few more new'ie pics added [near end of the Bleriot set].
>
> First big problem though, daVinci crank + BB + Double Chainrings = 103
> BB.  Not the end of the world, but I was informed I couldn't go
> 'cheap' on the BB earlier today [was told Shimano goes only so
> narrow... 107, so it might have to be a Phil BB].
>
> The budget is popping waaay out of the bag now.
>
> Anyone know of a BB in 103 that doesn't cost Phil-Money [daVinci crank
> is square taper, so no Campy].
>
> -Scott

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[RBW] Bikes in Europe

[kcwc10]

Greeting,
We just returned from a trip to England, France, Italy, and Germany,
where, of course, I had my eye on all the bikes. Less eye candy, more
working bikes with lots of beausage. Germany had the greatest variety
of kinds of bikes on the road; saw double top tubes, tandems with
wedgie in back, bent in front, lots of internal gears and dynamo front
hubs,  but most notably, large frames, fattish tires, fenders, and
high handlebars. :-)
Ken

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[RBW] July 4th Weekend Webdeal

[cyclofiend]

Hey all -

Was enjoying a strong cup of coffee this morning and wandered over to
the RBW site to find a short note from GP.  In addition to some cool
Renovelo pix, there was also notice of a quick-n-dirty deal if you
make a web order this weekend -

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/253

Since I needed some brake pads and have been kicking myself for not
nabbing a grey/orange RBW cap when I visited a couple weeks ago, I
tapped out a quick +$20 order.  Not pushing it for anyone else, but if
you had a couple of quick needs, it seemed like a good idea.

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled holiday...

- Jim

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[RBW] hello newbee here.

[Tiny Dancer]

Hi everyone!

What a busy list. I joined because I want to buy a new Rivendell when money 
allows. I need one for grocery gettin' and taking the dog to the vet, some of 
our local trailnet rides and some radonnuering rides. I picked the Sam as I 
will do some light touring/camping and love my roadie's config. It's a Lemond 
Versailles WSD '08. I don't know alot about components just alittle about 
shimano and was recommended to get at least shimano 105 which now I'd like to 
upgrade that.

I also love mbiking, have a Specialized FSR for that and a Bridgestone T700 
touring bike that's 24 yrs old.

So most of what you guys are talking about is mumbo jumbo to me. I looked up 
barcons but don't really know what lugs or braised stuff are..yet! Oh I want 
the pretty orange with the hammered fenders. And I have to be in the drops.

I'm also getting a folder too, bike friday to commute to work as anything left 
outside my job would get stolen. I'm petite so usually go with the wsd config 
on bikes. Any suggestions, or tips would be greatly appreciated. I like in the 
st louis area in IL, work in the city.

I think Rivendell bikes are beautiful. 

xx,janine


  

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[RBW] July 4th Weekend Webdeal

[CycloFiend]

Hey there - 

While I was waking up this morning, I wandered over to the RBW site, and it
looks like there's a little credit/benefit program on tap if you make a web
order this weekend.

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/253

Since I needed a new pair of brake pads and have been kicking myself for not
getting the new grey/orange RBW cap when I visited a couple weeks ago, I
notched in a +$20 order to qualify.

Thought if anyone else was in need of something, it might be a good time to
do it.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled holiday...

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Build is Coming Along

[S.Cutshall]

Thanks.

Have a lot of lil' tweaks to start tweakin' today [we aren't a big 4th
of July family ~cept the fireworks, which the daughter goes beezerk
over]...

Twine the bars.
Level the saddle better.
Tighten the bars [as I found out yesterday, quite a few miles from
home: needing a 'special' tool for the stem has its downsides].
Install the new cyclometer [so I can get back to my OCD'esque mileage
keeping -had to memorize where I rode, and then spent nearly an hour
recreating it on Bikely once home last night]. :-)
Get the B&M IQ Fly headlight installed.
...and then ride a lot today.

Still trying to acclimate to these Nifty Swifty's.  Really like the
soft'ish feel on bumpy stuff, but taking corners at higher speeds/and
climbing steepy's... not so sure I am in Like with them.  I keep
thinking the rear is flat'ing and/or I am going to fishtail the rear
of the bike out from under me.

Might try the Grand Bois or Pari-Motos.

-Scott

On Jul 4, 9:58 am, RoadieRyan  wrote:
> Beauty.  Nice build Scott.
>
> On Jul 3, 12:49 am, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
>
> > ...slowly, but steadily.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/4756379069/
>
> > And a few more new'ie pics added [near end of the Bleriot set].
>
> > First big problem though, daVinci crank + BB + Double Chainrings = 103
> > BB.  Not the end of the world, but I was informed I couldn't go
> > 'cheap' on the BB earlier today [was told Shimano goes only so
> > narrow... 107, so it might have to be a Phil BB].
>
> > The budget is popping waaay out of the bag now.
>
> > Anyone know of a BB in 103 that doesn't cost Phil-Money [daVinci crank
> > is square taper, so no Campy].
>
> > -Scott

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[RBW] Pari-Moto & Grand Bois "Cypres" PSI?

[S.Cutshall]

Anyone here know what these tires go to for Max. PSI?

Thanks-

-Scott

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[RBW] Re: July 4th Weekend Webdeal

[Steve]

Nice link and time to support RBW during these recessionary cash
drought times.

RBW Intern Emil, shown sawing through the official Corporate Bike Rack
to extract his locked frame, needs to spend a day in Oakland or
Berkeley learning from the pros.  A trip to Harbor Freight ("Habba
Flate") for a cheap Chinese angle grinder would have turned that
Kryptonite into shavings and had his bike free in a couple of minutes
with the loss of only the lock.

Steve

On Jul 4, 2:06 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> Hey there -
>
> While I was waking up this morning, I wandered over to the RBW site, and it
> looks like there's a little credit/benefit program on tap if you make a web
> order this weekend.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/253
>
> Since I needed a new pair of brake pads and have been kicking myself for not
> getting the new grey/orange RBW cap when I visited a couple weeks ago, I
> notched in a +$20 order to qualify.
>
> Thought if anyone else was in need of something, it might be a good time to
> do it.
>
> Now, back to your regularly scheduled holiday...
>
> - Jim
>
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> rode metal.  He hadn't liked it when Chevette had gone for a paper frame."
> -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light"

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto & Grand Bois "Cypres" PSI?

[rcnute]

Run mine at 60 in front and 65 in the rear.

Ryan

On Jul 4, 1:28 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
> Anyone here know what these tires go to for Max. PSI?
>
> Thanks-
>
> -Scott

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto & Grand Bois "Cypres" PSI?

[S.Cutshall]

Thanks, Ryan.

Which tire is it that you run at 60/65?

-Scott

On Jul 4, 1:47 pm, rcnute  wrote:
> Run mine at 60 in front and 65 in the rear.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Jul 4, 1:28 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
>
> > Anyone here know what these tires go to for Max. PSI?
>
> > Thanks-
>
> > -Scott

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Re: [RBW] Deore V-Brake issue on Hillborne

[carnerda...@bellsouth.net]

Deore V brakes, purchased from RBW, work fine on my SH. Did have to 
place a small spacer (presta valve nut) in front of fork crown when 
mounting Nitto mini to avoid contact.  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4504006453/in/set-72157623654420644/

Is this another Waterford/Taiwan issue? ;-)
David
Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:

Hi!

Building up my Hillborne, I tried to put Deore V-brakes on it.
However, the Deores would not slide all the way down the brake post/
stud/boss/whatever. The pin which anchors the spring in one of the
holes on the brake post did not fully insert into any of the 3 holes.
Also, the front brake was protruding far enough that it interfered
with the mini front rack.

Anybody else have this experience? If so, do you feel the brake will
function reliably with the anchor not fully seated? Did you find a way
to fully seat the anchor?

(I also had some Tektro 857AL brakes; they fit fine. And they also
look stupendously ugly, especially with salmon-colored pads. They
work. But did I mention how ugly they are? Wow, are they ugly. But
this is the sort of sacrifice one makes, since the hideousness of
their ugliness and the shame of being associated with that horrible
sight in any way is far outweighed by the glory of being able to
actually ride one's Hillborne.)

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

  


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[RBW] Paul Racer Brake Pads

[Rob Harrison]

Anyone know if the Yokozuna Cartridge Pads will fit Paul Racers?  
(They're on my Saluki, if that matters.) The posts look the same  
The pads look like they might be longer, hard to tell on line.


Pads: 


Brakes: 

I'm about due to replace pads. I like the Kool-Stop compound, and the  
replacement cartridges of the Yokozuna setup are pretty cool.


If not those, which ones work well?

Thanks!

Rob in Seattle

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Re: [RBW] Paul Racer Brake Pads

[Steve Palincsar]

On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 16:20 -0700, Rob Harrison wrote:
> Anyone know if the Yokozuna Cartridge Pads will fit Paul Racers?  
> (They're on my Saluki, if that matters.) The posts look the same  
> The pads look like they might be longer, hard to tell on line.
> 
> Pads: 
>   
>  >
> 
> Brakes: 
> 
> I'm about due to replace pads. I like the Kool-Stop compound, and the  
> replacement cartridges of the Yokozuna setup are pretty cool.
> 
> If not those, which ones work well?

I believe the Paul Racers come with Kool Stop Thinline Threaded brake
pads.



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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto & Grand Bois "Cypres" PSI?

[rcnute]

Right now the Pari-Motos but that's what I ran the Cypres (650b) at
too.

Ryan

On Jul 4, 2:21 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
> Thanks, Ryan.
>
> Which tire is it that you run at 60/65?
>
> -Scott
>
> On Jul 4, 1:47 pm, rcnute  wrote:
>
> > Run mine at 60 in front and 65 in the rear.
>
> > Ryan
>
> > On Jul 4, 1:28 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
>
> > > Anyone here know what these tires go to for Max. PSI?
>
> > > Thanks-
>
> > > -Scott

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot Build is Coming Along

[CycloFiend]

on 7/4/10 1:24 PM, S.Cutshall at clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
> Still trying to acclimate to these Nifty Swifty's.  Really like the
> soft'ish feel on bumpy stuff, but taking corners at higher speeds/and
> climbing steepy's... not so sure I am in Like with them.  I keep
> thinking the rear is flat'ing and/or I am going to fishtail the rear
> of the bike out from under me.

Try bumping 'em up about five pounds to start.  That's the feeling that
usually triggers a refill for me on the JB's.

Thanks for posting the updated images - that setup looks top-notch.

- J

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[RBW] Re: Paul Racer Brake Pads

[benzzoy]

The one flaw with the Paul Racer brakes (I have a few sets) is that
they require a bit of "extension" from the mounting points to clear
the "lobe" at the business end of each caliper arm.  Thus, one cannot
slap on a nice set of Campagnolo brake holder/pads or an idle set of
Koolstop Eagle Claw IIs without running into clearance issues.

Nevertheless, the Yokozuna pads' mounting hardware (notably the
spacers) look identical to the Koolstop Thinline threaded pads' so you
should have no problem using those.

Cheers,
B

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto & Grand Bois "Cypres" PSI?

[S.Cutshall]

Thanks much for the info, appreciate it.

-Scott

On Jul 4, 5:39 pm, rcnute  wrote:
> Right now the Pari-Motos but that's what I ran the Cypres (650b) at
> too.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Jul 4, 2:21 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Ryan.
>
> > Which tire is it that you run at 60/65?
>
> > -Scott
>
> > On Jul 4, 1:47 pm, rcnute  wrote:
>
> > > Run mine at 60 in front and 65 in the rear.
>
> > > Ryan
>
> > > On Jul 4, 1:28 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
>
> > > > Anyone here know what these tires go to for Max. PSI?
>
> > > > Thanks-
>
> > > > -Scott

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Build is Coming Along

[S.Cutshall]

Solid, will do.

If I blow 'em off the rims on a high-speed Alpine descent [all things
being relative, mind you]... Chloe will be 'visiting' you.

;-)

-Scott

On Jul 4, 5:46 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 7/4/10 1:24 PM, S.Cutshall at clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Still trying to acclimate to these Nifty Swifty's.  Really like the
> > soft'ish feel on bumpy stuff, but taking corners at higher speeds/and
> > climbing steepy's... not so sure I am in Like with them.  I keep
> > thinking the rear is flat'ing and/or I am going to fishtail the rear
> > of the bike out from under me.
>
> Try bumping 'em up about five pounds to start.  That's the feeling that
> usually triggers a refill for me on the JB's.
>
> Thanks for posting the updated images - that setup looks top-notch.
>
> - J
>
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[RBW] Re: Paul Racer Brake Pads

[S.Cutshall]

Yep, they do [just installed my Racers a coupla days back].

And they are fine pads too, so I say, "Stick wit what brung ya to the
dance."

-Scott

On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 16:20 -0700, Rob Harrison wrote:
> > Anyone know if the Yokozuna Cartridge Pads will fit Paul Racers?  
> > (They're on my Saluki, if that matters.) The posts look the same  
> > The pads look like they might be longer, hard to tell on line.
>
> > Pads: 
> > 
> > Brakes: 
>
> > I'm about due to replace pads. I like the Kool-Stop compound, and the  
> > replacement cartridges of the Yokozuna setup are pretty cool.
>
> > If not those, which ones work well?
>
> I believe the Paul Racers come with Kool Stop Thinline Threaded brake
> pads.

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto & Grand Bois "Cypres" PSI?

[Dave G]

The Pari-Moto inflation range (as printed on the sidewall) is 55-75
psi.   There is a picture of this on the Riv site in the Pari-Moto
product listing.  I don't know about the Cypres, but the Hetre max is
also 75, and that is where I keep the rear tire with 10-15 psi less in
the front.
Dave

On Jul 4, 4:28 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
> Anyone here know what these tires go to for Max. PSI?
>
> Thanks-
>
> -Scott

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto & Grand Bois "Cypres" PSI?

[S.Cutshall]

Thanks, Dave.

All good info to know...

-Scott

On Jul 4, 6:30 pm, Dave G  wrote:
> The Pari-Moto inflation range (as printed on the sidewall) is 55-75
> psi.   There is a picture of this on the Riv site in the Pari-Moto
> product listing.  I don't know about the Cypres, but the Hetre max is
> also 75, and that is where I keep the rear tire with 10-15 psi less in
> the front.
> Dave
>
> On Jul 4, 4:28 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
>
> > Anyone here know what these tires go to for Max. PSI?
>
> > Thanks-
>
> > -Scott

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Just a reminder we are going next Sat. morning at 9:00AM.

If you are coming, send me a email and I will send my personal info to
you, just in case of anything you can think of the day of.

Get ready to ride fixedgear for 30 miles or so, speed depends on the
group.  And to all you fast rider, we can do all the climb twice and
collect everybody along the way.

Ron

On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for afixed/SS 
> ride on July 10.
>
> Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> climb everything twice.

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[RBW] Re: Deore V-Brake issue on Hillborne

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Ahh... well, it actually looks like you had the same "issue" I had.
That is, there's a small amount of space between the brake itself and
the place where the brake normally seats on the canti-stud. Maybe
there's less on yours; I can't tell that closely. Sounds like it's not
an issue for you. I may put the Deores back on and see if I can get it
a little closer.

Yes, I too had the spacer issue. I used part of the set of spacers
from a linear pull brake shoe threaded post. Same small amount of
space. I imagine that using that technique I might be able to put on
Paul Motolite brakes some time in the future. Still thinking about
that one.

The brakes I've got on it now didn't need the spacer. But I figured it
doesn't hurt either. But when I first put the spacer on I wasn't
comfortable with the length of the mini's fork-crown through-bolt that
the spacer left for the nut behind the fork crown to secure. So I used
a Sheldon's Fender Nut. I figure with a fender nut I could get another
centimeter of space (which I understand the Motolites may require).

Thanks for the photo!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Jul 4, 5:28 pm, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net"
 wrote:
> Deore V brakes, purchased from RBW, work fine on my SH. Did have to
> place a small spacer (presta valve nut) in front of fork crown when
> mounting Nitto mini to avoid contact.  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4504006453/in/set-72157623654420644/
> Is this another Waterford/Taiwan issue? ;-)
> David
>
>
>
> Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
> > Hi!
>
> > Building up my Hillborne, I tried to put Deore V-brakes on it.
> > However, the Deores would not slide all the way down the brake post/
> > stud/boss/whatever. The pin which anchors the spring in one of the
> > holes on the brake post did not fully insert into any of the 3 holes.
> > Also, the front brake was protruding far enough that it interfered
> > with the mini front rack.
>
> > Anybody else have this experience? If so, do you feel the brake will
> > function reliably with the anchor not fully seated? Did you find a way
> > to fully seat the anchor?
>
> > (I also had some Tektro 857AL brakes; they fit fine. And they also
> > look stupendously ugly, especially with salmon-colored pads. They
> > work. But did I mention how ugly they are? Wow, are they ugly. But
> > this is the sort of sacrifice one makes, since the hideousness of
> > their ugliness and the shame of being associated with that horrible
> > sight in any way is far outweighed by the glory of being able to
> > actually ride one's Hillborne.)
>
> > Yours,
> > Thomas Lynn Skean- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Hi!

I tried to mount a Sugino XD2 crank from RBW on a 107mm VO bottom
bracket and couldn't make it work. Mounting the crank onto the
spindle, before I had slid it on far enough to get the appropriate
torque on the crank bolt, the inner portion of the crank arm
interfered with the bottom bracket itself! At first when I was having
trouble turning the cranks I thought... hmmm, did I ruin a bearing or
something? But no, it was just that the crank arm was literally jammed
up against the bottom bracket itself. Just plain weird.

Anyway, I suspect both the VO bottom bracket and the XD2 crank I have
are perfectly fine normal examples of their kind. And I suspect the VO
BB is a fine product in general, as is the XD2 crank. They just didn't
work together for me.

The only other bottom bracket I had lying around was a 113mm Truvativ,
which turns just fine for now. When it shows age, I may replace it
with a larger VO. I wasn't really very close to the required torque on
the crank when it came in contact with the bottom bracket. It isn't
obvious that a 110mm VO bottom bracket would work. I suspect a 113mm
would, though.

Perhaps I should just get the 107mm from RBW. This would give me the
intended chainline. However, I'm going to eyeball carefully my current
set up. I haven't concerned myself with Q-factor up to this point;
longer spindles on a bottom bracket don't bother me as long as the
chainline is reasonable for how I ride. I need to give that more
thought. I may even go with a 118mm BB if the chainline is okay. At
that point, the crank arms might just slip right past the two-legged
Pletscher kickstand when its deployed. That basically turns the
kickstand into a work stand. (That and a couple of ceiling-mounted $3
bicycle hooks were the only stand I used to the build the bike up with
in the first place.)

Anyway... just in case anybody else tries the 107mm VO BB with an XD2
crank. I wouldn't expect it to work right out of the box.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: Pari-Moto & Grand Bois "Cypres" PSI?

[Dave G]

Scott, I just recalled this review of the Cypress (and other tires) in
Bicycle Quarterly.
The link is http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/images/BQ64TireTest.pdf
 They list the Cypress max inflation as 75 psi.

On Jul 4, 9:31 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
> Thanks, Dave.
>
> All good info to know...
>
> -Scott
>
> On Jul 4, 6:30 pm, Dave G  wrote:
>
>
>
> > The Pari-Moto inflation range (as printed on the sidewall) is 55-75
> > psi.   There is a picture of this on the Riv site in the Pari-Moto
> > product listing.  I don't know about the Cypres, but the Hetre max is
> > also 75, and that is where I keep the rear tire with 10-15 psi less in
> > the front.
> > Dave
>
> > On Jul 4, 4:28 pm, "S.Cutshall"  wrote:
>
> > > Anyone here know what these tires go to for Max. PSI?
>
> > > Thanks-
>
> > > -Scott- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[Bill M.]

I'm still planning on coming.  Did 40+ on the fixie Riv this morning,
with a few rolling hills thrown in.  That was by far the longest and
hilliest fixed gear ride I've done, most of my fixed riding to date
has been around town, and my neighborhood is dead flat.  42/17 felt
about right, low enough to get me over a couple of short 8+% pitches,
tall enough to only have to brake on a couple of the downhill bits.  I
think I'm ready!

I'll e-mail my contact info off list.

Bill

On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Just a reminder we are going next Sat. morning at 9:00AM.
>
> If you are coming, send me a email and I will send my personal info to
> you, just in case of anything you can think of the day of.
>
> Get ready to ride fixedgear for 30 miles or so, speed depends on the
> group.  And to all you fast rider, we can do all the climb twice and
> collect everybody along the way.
>
> Ron
>
> On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for 
> > afixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> > Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> > miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> > It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> > climb everything twice.

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Bill,

42x17 works great for us here.  I myself use something lower, 48x20,
may swap to a 48x19 to test tomorrow.

Ron

On Jul 4, 9:10 pm, "Bill M."  wrote:
> I'm still planning on coming.  Did 40+ on the fixie Riv this morning,
> with a few rolling hills thrown in.  That was by far the longest and
> hilliest fixed gear ride I've done, most of my fixed riding to date
> has been around town, and my neighborhood is dead flat.  42/17 felt
> about right, low enough to get me over a couple of short 8+% pitches,
> tall enough to only have to brake on a couple of the downhill bits.  I
> think I'm ready!
>
> I'll e-mail my contact info off list.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > Just a reminder we are going next Sat. morning at 9:00AM.
>
> > If you are coming, send me a email and I will send my personal info to
> > you, just in case of anything you can think of the day of.
>
> > Get ready to ride fixedgear for 30 miles or so, speed depends on the
> > group.  And to all you fast rider, we can do all the climb twice and
> > collect everybody along the way.
>
> > Ron
>
> > On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > > Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for 
> > > afixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> > > Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> > > miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> > > It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> > > climb everything twice.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer Brake Pads

[Rob Harrison]

Thanks Scott, Ben & Steve!

Oops, just re-read my post. The Racers are on my Saluki, not the  
Yokozuna pads. :)


But I will now order some of those Yokozunas up.

Rob in Seattle


On Jul 4, 2010, at 6:29 PM, S.Cutshall wrote:


Yep, they do [just installed my Racers a coupla days back].

And they are fine pads too, so I say, "Stick wit what brung ya to the
dance."

-Scott

On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 16:20 -0700, Rob Harrison wrote:

Anyone know if the Yokozuna Cartridge Pads will fit Paul Racers?
(They're on my Saluki, if that matters.) The posts look the same
The pads look like they might be longer, hard to tell on line.


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[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

[Justin August]

Did you check with VO and/or try other samples of either products? I
think it's premature to call them "incompatible" after only one test
case.

On Jul 4, 10:43 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I tried to mount a Sugino XD2 crank from RBW on a 107mm VO bottom
> bracket and couldn't make it work. Mounting the crank onto the
> spindle, before I had slid it on far enough to get the appropriate
> torque on the crank bolt, the inner portion of the crank arm
> interfered with the bottom bracket itself! At first when I was having
> trouble turning the cranks I thought... hmmm, did I ruin a bearing or
> something? But no, it was just that the crank arm was literally jammed
> up against the bottom bracket itself. Just plain weird.
>
> Anyway, I suspect both the VO bottom bracket and the XD2 crank I have
> are perfectly fine normal examples of their kind. And I suspect the VO
> BB is a fine product in general, as is the XD2 crank. They just didn't
> work together for me.
>
> The only other bottom bracket I had lying around was a 113mm Truvativ,
> which turns just fine for now. When it shows age, I may replace it
> with a larger VO. I wasn't really very close to the required torque on
> the crank when it came in contact with the bottom bracket. It isn't
> obvious that a 110mm VO bottom bracket would work. I suspect a 113mm
> would, though.
>
> Perhaps I should just get the 107mm from RBW. This would give me the
> intended chainline. However, I'm going to eyeball carefully my current
> set up. I haven't concerned myself with Q-factor up to this point;
> longer spindles on a bottom bracket don't bother me as long as the
> chainline is reasonable for how I ride. I need to give that more
> thought. I may even go with a 118mm BB if the chainline is okay. At
> that point, the crank arms might just slip right past the two-legged
> Pletscher kickstand when its deployed. That basically turns the
> kickstand into a work stand. (That and a couple of ceiling-mounted $3
> bicycle hooks were the only stand I used to the build the bike up with
> in the first place.)
>
> Anyway... just in case anybody else tries the 107mm VO BB with an XD2
> crank. I wouldn't expect it to work right out of the box.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer Brake Pads

[Rob Harrison]

Whoa, hold on. Scott, are those the "Mountain" pads or the "Road" pads  
you installed there?


Point may be moot, as Riv is out of the Yokozuna cartridge in the  
mountain version, which from the pics looks to be what I need.


Rob in Seattle


On Jul 4, 2010, at 6:29 PM, S.Cutshall wrote:


Yep, they do [just installed my Racers a coupla days back].

And they are fine pads too, so I say, "Stick wit what brung ya to the
dance."

-Scott


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[RBW] Re: FYI: VO 107mm BB and Sugino XD2 crank incompatibility

[charlie]

That sounds kind of odd to me. I use a 107 BB with a Sugino and never
had crank arm interference. Actually I've used three different Sugino
triple cranks and one FSA square taper crank with the 107mm sized BB
and no problems at all. I'll bet that bottom bracket or the crank arm
is machined over sized slightly, making for a bad fit. A 107mm BB
spindle ought to be a 107mm regardless of brand.

On Jul 4, 7:43 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean 
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I tried to mount a Sugino XD2 crank from RBW on a 107mm VO bottom
> bracket and couldn't make it work. Mounting the crank onto the
> spindle, before I had slid it on far enough to get the appropriate
> torque on the crank bolt, the inner portion of the crank arm
> interfered with the bottom bracket itself! At first when I was having
> trouble turning the cranks I thought... hmmm, did I ruin a bearing or
> something? But no, it was just that the crank arm was literally jammed
> up against the bottom bracket itself. Just plain weird.
>
> Anyway, I suspect both the VO bottom bracket and the XD2 crank I have
> are perfectly fine normal examples of their kind. And I suspect the VO
> BB is a fine product in general, as is the XD2 crank. They just didn't
> work together for me.
>
> The only other bottom bracket I had lying around was a 113mm Truvativ,
> which turns just fine for now. When it shows age, I may replace it
> with a larger VO. I wasn't really very close to the required torque on
> the crank when it came in contact with the bottom bracket. It isn't
> obvious that a 110mm VO bottom bracket would work. I suspect a 113mm
> would, though.
>
> Perhaps I should just get the 107mm from RBW. This would give me the
> intended chainline. However, I'm going to eyeball carefully my current
> set up. I haven't concerned myself with Q-factor up to this point;
> longer spindles on a bottom bracket don't bother me as long as the
> chainline is reasonable for how I ride. I need to give that more
> thought. I may even go with a 118mm BB if the chainline is okay. At
> that point, the crank arms might just slip right past the two-legged
> Pletscher kickstand when its deployed. That basically turns the
> kickstand into a work stand. (That and a couple of ceiling-mounted $3
> bicycle hooks were the only stand I used to the build the bike up with
> in the first place.)
>
> Anyway... just in case anybody else tries the 107mm VO BB with an XD2
> crank. I wouldn't expect it to work right out of the box.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Re: S24O Report and Video

[cyclotourist]

And not stampede of irate bulls!  Good times in OC!

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Andy.M  wrote:

> René and Jim,
> Thank you!  The camera is a Flip UltraHD, and the little tripod that
> goes with it was a huge help.  I edited (which was the first time I
> ever used it) with the iMovie app that came preinstalled on my Mac,
> super easy to use and have a nice looking final product.
> -Andy
>
>
> On Jul 3, 9:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> > Very nice takes! Is that an HD Flip? The image quality was superb.
> Beautiful
> > takes and beautiful bike!
> >
> > René
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