Re: [RBW] Fenders for Big Apples?

[Rene Sterental]

I use the 60mm steel Berthoud fenders. They work very well and have great
coverage. I got them from Wallingford Bikes.

René

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[RBW] Re: Fenders for Big Apples?

[Philip Williamson]

I think they would not work. At least not easily and optimally.

My 45mm Smokes were smaller than 45mm, and I don't think they'd fit
under ANY fender. Right now, I'm running (rocking/rubbing)... ...I
have mounted on my Quickbeam 42mm IRC Mythos "slicks" with the knobs
cut off, under 52mm Zeppelins. They're really close. Popping off a
speed bump makes the front go "zzzp!" and anytime the rear fender gets
knocked, there's some fussing involved to get the clearance under
control.

I have never owned Big Apples, so your experience may differ happily.

 Philip
97128


On May 29, 7:13 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> I have a 700C bike with good clearance (45mm Panaracer Smoke knobbies
> fit fine) and am thinking of trying some 700x50 Big Apples, which
> according to rivbike, run about 44.5mm (presumably on Velocity
> Synergies, which is what I run). Has anyone fitted fenders over these
> tires? Have you tried the VO 52mm Zeppelin 
> fenders:http://www.velo-orange.com/vopo52zefe70.html?Do they provide enough
> clearance?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gernot

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Re: [RBW] Atlantis 2?

[Steve Palincsar]

On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 22:49 -0700, Grant Petersen wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 13:21 -0700, Tony wrote:
> > the cap. The bill has Atlantis with a superscript 2 at the end
> > (squared).
> > Please explain to this Hillborne owner.
>  
> 
> Steve P said:
> The first Atlantis was a Bridgestone touring bike.
> 
> Steve wins big points for getting this right. Impressive!

Not really -- I've seen one, can't remember if in person or in photos.
If I remember right, that one ended up going to none other than Grant
Petersen.



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[RBW] Re: Cool, transportation-oriented bike shops in Boston?

[newenglandbike]

On May 29, 11:23 pm, Steve  wrote:
> I second Harris in Newton as THE place
> for transportation-oriented cycling.
>



Third...   Harris Cyclery is a great shop.

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis 2?

[newenglandbike]

On May 30, 7:11 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
> Not really -- I've seen one, can't remember if in person or in photos.
> If I remember right, that one ended up going to none other than Grant
> Petersen.


It was in the Rivendell Reader-  that's where I saw it anyway.

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Mixtes

[David Sprunger]

René,

You asked for the mixte story, so here’s one although maybe not the
one you had in mind. When my wife and I were engaged in the mid-80s,
she volunteered that instead of an engagement ring, she would prefer a
new bicycle.  Being frugal self-sufficient graduate/medical students,
we ended up with a lower-end neon Specialized mountain bike that she
rode for some years before putting it aside for a used XO-2.

After two decades of marriage, our circumstances had changed, so for
our 20th anniversary, I bought an unbuilt Glorius frame on ebay and
built up the kind of bike I wish we could have afforded in 1987
(although such a bike was probably not available then).  The
Specialized is still in the basement for nostalgia’s sake.

Some pictures are here:
http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/glorius/

The story doesn’t really have a moral except that the Glorius is a
great bike and I married wisely.

David Sprunger
Fargo, ND


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> I know about the Yves Gomez and the Betty Foy, but I just discovered on
> Flickr the Willbur and the Glorius. What's their story?
>
> René
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[RBW] Roadeo v. Soma ES?

[ed k]

Greetings non-lurkers -

I like the idea of a so-called club racer to go beside the Bombadil,
but the Roadeo comes in freakishly small sizes, not fit for a healthy
98cm PBH.  Can't understand why

Can anybody contrast/compare to the Soma ES
(http://somafab.com/extrasmoothie.html)?  Besides the fact that it is
welded and 1/4 the cost?  It comes in a 66cm (C-T) which should be OK.

I know, I should be contemplating I.F., but if this is a
quick-and-dirty solution I'll take it for a few years while I save up
some cash.

Bonus Riv reference:  Requires long-reach brakes like Riv's Silver Sidepulls!

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo v. Soma ES?

[Mike]

Actually the Soma doesn't require the Silver sidepull brakes which are
extra-long. What you want for the Soma are brakes with a reach of
57mm. These used to referred to as "standard reach" brakes. Tektro and
Shimano both make brakes with a 57mm reach.

That Soma frame is nice and if a Roadeo or IF is out of reach
financially it's a great option.

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[RBW] Re: Cool, transportation-oriented bike shops in Boston?

[Bill Spencer]

There is always Independent Fabrication in Somerville. Not really a
bike shop per se but cool none the less.

On May 29, 10:29 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Heading there in a couple of days. Know about ANT, but they are quite
> far out of town now (Holliston). Are there any cool shops in Boston/
> Cambridge/Somerville worth checking out?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gernot

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[RBW] Re: Click in the left grip king

[jlvota]

It sounds like you may have a problem with the spindle bearings.  I
would start with what newenglandbike said and check the spindle nut.
The bearings may be rough for a few reasons:

1.  Whenever bearings are line manufactured, there is not as much
attention to detail when packing bearings.  The bearings could just be
a little dry and squirting some grease in there may fix the problem.

2.  A lot of times, the spindle bearings get over-tightened.  This
happens when there is not enough play in the spindle between the two
retaining nuts on the spindle axle.  This can cause the bearings to be
sort of crunchy, but can easily be fixed.  You will first have to
loosen the outer nut that holds the retaining nut in place, and then
just slightly loosen the retaining nut (I would recommend 1/4 turn at
a time) until you get the spindle to the perfect spot.  Your
adjustment reaches perfection when you have minimal play, but the
pedals spin smoothly.  You can get your pedals way smoother making
this adjustment but it takes a little bit of patience.

I wish I would have seen this post a little earlier, I just got done
rebuilding an pair of Atom 700s and I could have taken pictures; they
are built the same way.  Let me know if you have any questions.

On May 26, 7:42 pm, newenglandbike  wrote:
> you probably already checked-   but is the pedal spindle tight in the
> crank-arm's pedal boss?    if you already checked that, maybe make
> sure the spindle nut hasn't come loose.
>
> On May 26, 8:36 pm, Calm54  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Today my left grip king started to click when pressure is applied.
> > Does anyone have suggestions on what may be wrong and how to fix it?
> > Thanks

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[RBW] Re: Another post about compact doubles / drivetrain questions

[Angus]

Jason,

I don't know which model of Simplex you have, but use caution with old
French bike parts!
I have a number of Simplex derailleurs, I do not have a front Simplex
derailleur that will handle a triple.  Many of the Simplex rear
derailleurs struggle with a 28, let alone a 30.  There were also some
Simplex specific rear derailleur mountings a long time ago.

I love old French bike parts and I love riding my bikes, because the
were often in conflict I have given up trying to make old French bike
parts work (they usually don't)except for the Simplex
Retrofriction shifters recently given to me... :-)

One really cool thing about Simplex derailleursthe plastic ones
were often one badly missed shift away from scattering the road with
broken derailleur parts and one's lost dignity...they seemed to add a
small element of excitement to the ride :-)

I recently converted my Rambouillet from a triple (24-36-50) to a
double (34-50).  I removed the inner chain-ring from a Ritchey Logic
triple and changed to a shorter bottom bracket spindle.  I don't see
the point of going from a triple to a double and keeping the same BB/Q
factor.

Which reminds me, now that it is a double I can use that plastic
Simplex front derailleur!

Angus

On May 29, 9:08 am, jandrews_nyc  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently acquired a used Bleriot frameset from someone on this group
> (thanks Brad!) and I'm starting to build it up.
> I'm mechanically inclined but this will be my first experience with
> gearing and selecting chainrings / cogs.
> As a compliment to my beefier touring-specific Hillborne, this budget-
> minded Bleriot will be more retro and city-fied and it will be set up
> for comfort with Albatross bars, dia-comp centerpulls, VO city brake
> levers.  I've also been given a set of NOS simplex front and rear
> derailleurs (sx610 in the rear I believe, not sure of the front model)
> and from what I understand they work beautifully with 7 speed
> cassettes.  The rear is rated for a max cog of 28t...but I think that
> is a conservative figure.  I will also be using a set of stem mounted
> friction shifters (either Simplex or Suntour..which I have laying
> around).  I think they are both supposed to be for 10 speeds...but
> will play around to see if they will work with 7 in the back and a
> compact double up front.
> Which brings me to my question...as I'm unsure of how to arrange the
> crankset and what cassette to use in the back.
> I would like to use a 13-30 7speed cassette but am worried about the
> rear derailleur being able to handle that.
> so maybe a 12-28...but then what up front?  I'm more concerned with
> commuting, riding out of the city on occasion which includes hills,
> carrying a modest load, etc.  I certainly don't feel like using
> anything bigger than a 48t up front and based on how I would like this
> bike to ride..I'm feeling something like a 44t / 28t compact double.
> I'm finding that my crankset choices are limited if I want to set
> something up as described.  I don't want to spring for a TA, but
> aren't there other choices out there that would enable me to set this
> up?  From my limited research, I think Shimano is out.
> I hope the post makes sense and apologies if I'm re-hashing ground
> that was already recently covered.
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
> Jason

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[RBW] Quickbeam Sugino XD2 on old Centurion?

[Crazy4Suki]

Hi, I have an old Centurion Lemans in my garage with downtube
shifters.  I can manage most rides with it as is, but I'd like to be
able to do long rides with hills so I started looking at other
options.  I ordered the Quickbeam Sugino XD2 for the Centurion as it
has 40/32T which should help me with hills.  With its current 49/39
setup, I never use the big chainring.

Does anybody know if I'll also need a new derailler for it?  I wanted
to keep the changes (and related costs) to a minimum, so did not order
a derailer.

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[RBW] fender for 40mm tire

[ShawntelBlack]

Can you recommend a metal fender that will fit a 40mm tire.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Another post about compact doubles / drivetrain questions

[CycloFiend]

on 5/29/10 10:40 AM, Ray Shine at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Here's a shot and write-up about the way keven at RBW set a double up with a
> 24 (thanks to Cyclofiend for the pict and text):

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4468314517/in/set-72157623592760757/


And just to spare everyone the horrifying, up-close view of my hairy calf,
the largest version of that image shows it to be a Campy Mirage front
derailleur.

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[RBW] Item added to page "RBW Resources & Goodies"

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Sunday update - Added link to Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles google map
of RBW members.

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Mixtes

[cyclotourist]

'87 was a good year!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joshua_Tree



On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, David Sprunger  wrote:

> René,
>
> You asked for the mixte story, so here’s one although maybe not the
> one you had in mind. When my wife and I were engaged in the mid-80s,
> she volunteered that instead of an engagement ring, she would prefer a
> new bicycle.  Being frugal self-sufficient graduate/medical students,
> we ended up with a lower-end neon Specialized mountain bike that she
> rode for some years before putting it aside for a used XO-2.
>
> After two decades of marriage, our circumstances had changed, so for
> our 20th anniversary, I bought an unbuilt Glorius frame on ebay and
> built up the kind of bike I wish we could have afforded in 1987
> (although such a bike was probably not available then).  The
> Specialized is still in the basement for nostalgia’s sake.
>
> Some pictures are here:
> http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/glorius/
>
> The story doesn’t really have a moral except that the Glorius is a
> great bike and I married wisely.
>
> David Sprunger
> Fargo, ND
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Rene Sterental 
> wrote:
> > I know about the Yves Gomez and the Betty Foy, but I just discovered on
> > Flickr the Willbur and the Glorius. What's their story?
> >
> > René
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Re: [RBW] Roadeo v. Soma ES?

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on 5/30/10 7:50 AM, ed k at yagen...@gmail.com wrote:
> I like the idea of a so-called club racer to go beside the Bombadil,
> but the Roadeo comes in freakishly small sizes, not fit for a healthy
> 98cm PBH.  Can't understand why
> 
> Can anybody contrast/compare to the Soma ES
> (http://somafab.com/extrasmoothie.html)?  Besides the fact that it is
> welded and 1/4 the cost?  It comes in a 66cm (C-T) which should be OK.

You might call them at Riv/SOMA and see if the San Marcos/AMOS is close to
shipping.  They did say they would be making a 63 cm frame, which might work
for you given they are using the expanded frame design on that model.

http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=414

That would certainly be closest to the Roadeo in terms of design and
handling. 

I do recall seeing some threads on the ES on the iBob list, though not
recently.  You might search through the archives there as well.

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo v. Soma ES?

[cyclotourist]

Excellent recommendation Mr. Fiend.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:06 AM, CycloFiend wrote:

> on 5/30/10 7:50 AM, ed k at yagen...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I like the idea of a so-called club racer to go beside the Bombadil,
> > but the Roadeo comes in freakishly small sizes, not fit for a healthy
> > 98cm PBH.  Can't understand why
> >
> > Can anybody contrast/compare to the Soma ES
> > (http://somafab.com/extrasmoothie.html)?  Besides the fact that it is
> > welded and 1/4 the cost?  It comes in a 66cm (C-T) which should be OK.
>
> You might call them at Riv/SOMA and see if the San Marcos/AMOS is close to
> shipping.  They did say they would be making a 63 cm frame, which might
> work
> for you given they are using the expanded frame design on that model.
>
> http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=414
>
> That would certainly be closest to the Roadeo in terms of design and
> handling.
>
> I do recall seeing some threads on the ES on the iBob list, though not
> recently.  You might search through the archives there as well.
>
> - Jim
>
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> a
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[RBW] Re: Roadeo v. Soma ES?

[Dave Craig]

I'm also not in the size range of a Rodeo (94cm PBH).

It so happens that I do have a Bombadil and a Soma ES just as you are
considering. At the time I got the Smoothie ES, I got it instead of a
Rambouillet.

So, while I can't really compare the Rodeo and Soma, I can appreciate
the consideration of having the lighter road bike and the heavier
touring/mountain bike. I like my Smoothie. It's set up with compact
cranks and a 9 speed cluster, with clipless pedals and brifters. I run
32 mm tires on it. I have other bikes that I ride more often and I've
considered selling it many times, but every time I ride it I do enjoy
the feel. It is a fine bike and I've been very happy with it.

Dave

On May 30, 7:50 am, ed k  wrote:
> Greetings non-lurkers -
>
> I like the idea of a so-called club racer to go beside the Bombadil,
> but the Roadeo comes in freakishly small sizes, not fit for a healthy
> 98cm PBH.  Can't understand why
>
> Can anybody contrast/compare to the Soma ES
> (http://somafab.com/extrasmoothie.html)? Besides the fact that it is
> welded and 1/4 the cost?  It comes in a 66cm (C-T) which should be OK.
>
> I know, I should be contemplating I.F., but if this is a
> quick-and-dirty solution I'll take it for a few years while I save up
> some cash.
>
> Bonus Riv reference:  Requires long-reach brakes like Riv's Silver Sidepulls!

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Re: [RBW] fender for 40mm tire

[Seth Vidal]

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 3:43 AM, ShawntelBlack  wrote:
> Can you recommend a metal fender that will fit a 40mm tire.
>

Any of the 52mm fenders that VO or Honjo sell should work just fine.

-sv

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RE: [RBW] Rivendell Mixtes

[Rene Valbuena]

David,

Your Glorious Mixte story made my day.

"The story doesn’t really have a moral except that the Glorius is a
great bike and I married wisely."  -- what a line!

Thanks,

(Another) René

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René,

You asked for the mixte story, so here’s one although maybe not the
one you had in mind. When my wife and I were engaged in the mid-80s,
she volunteered that instead of an engagement ring, she would prefer a
new bicycle.  Being frugal self-sufficient graduate/medical students,
we ended up with a lower-end neon Specialized mountain bike that she
rode for some years before putting it aside for a used XO-2.

After two decades of marriage, our circumstances had changed, so for
our 20th anniversary, I bought an unbuilt Glorius frame on ebay and
built up the kind of bike I wish we could have afforded in 1987
(although such a bike was probably not available then).  The
Specialized is still in the basement for nostalgia’s sake.

Some pictures are here:
http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/glorius/

The story doesn’t really have a moral except that the Glorius is a
great bike and I married wisely.

David Sprunger
Fargo, ND


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Rene Sterental 
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> I know about the Yves Gomez and the Betty Foy, but I just discovered on
> Flickr the Willbur and the Glorius. What's their story?
>
> René
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Sugino XD2 on old Centurion?

[charlie]

I had the same bike and converted it to a triple and no you won't need
a new rear or front derailleur.You will need to slide the front
derailleur down closer to the 40 tooth ring (about a chains width gap
or a little less) to account for the smaller 40 Tooth large ring. You
may however need a different bottom bracket and I would just get one
from Riv.  You'll probably need either a 110mm  or 113mm one. If the
old one works without rubbing and it shifts your are good to go but
the new sealed bearing units are nice and easy to install.

On May 29, 7:35 pm, Crazy4Suki  wrote:
> Hi, I have an old Centurion Lemans in my garage with downtube
> shifters.  I can manage most rides with it as is, but I'd like to be
> able to do long rides with hills so I started looking at other
> options.  I ordered the Quickbeam Sugino XD2 for the Centurion as it
> has 40/32T which should help me with hills.  With its current 49/39
> setup, I never use the big chainring.
>
> Does anybody know if I'll also need a new derailler for it?  I wanted
> to keep the changes (and related costs) to a minimum, so did not order
> a derailer.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis 2?

[Steve Palincsar]

On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 05:24 -0700, newenglandbike wrote:
> 
> On May 30, 7:11 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Not really -- I've seen one, can't remember if in person or in photos.
> > If I remember right, that one ended up going to none other than Grant
> > Petersen.
> 
> 
> It was in the Rivendell Reader-  that's where I saw it anyway.


I remember there was a discussion on the list when the bike was on ebay,
and if I recall correctly the seller was an antique store in Beacon NY.
I'm from Beacon, and I remember visiting it and stopping in at that
antique store and having a discussion with the owner while the
discussion was going on.  What I don't recall is whether I actually saw
the bike there, or whether I saw it only in photos.



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[RBW] Re: Atlantis 2?

[rcnute]

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html

On May 30, 5:24 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
> On May 30, 7:11 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Not really -- I've seen one, can't remember if in person or in photos.
> > If I remember right, that one ended up going to none other than Grant
> > Petersen.
>
> It was in the Rivendell Reader-  that's where I saw it anyway.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis 2?

[John Speare]

And another: http://johndogfood.com/john/BstoneAtlantis.html

My buddy found this at our local Goodwill for $12.99.




On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:38 PM, rcnute  wrote:

> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html
>
> On May 30, 5:24 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
> > On May 30, 7:11 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Not really -- I've seen one, can't remember if in person or in photos.
> > > If I remember right, that one ended up going to none other than Grant
> > > Petersen.
> >
> > It was in the Rivendell Reader-  that's where I saw it anyway.
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[RBW] Riding to Rivendell

[manueljohnacosta]

Lazy day riding around with friends got to introduce them to some mix
trail riding. We decide then to Rivendell. Grant shows us earthquake
dips! Hard upper body exercise. Decided randomly to go to Bears creek
road, so Grant makes us a map. Shows us an igneous way to put the map
on our handlebars! Also got to check out Grants temporary new ride,
complete with aero bars! Believe it or not! Always a fun day at
Rivendell. I always learn something new or interesting, most of the
time it's non-bike related.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624044038665/

-Manny "Dirt is fun" Acosta

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Re: [RBW] Riding to Rivendell

[cyclotourist]

Aero bars AND a suspension fork!

Signs of the pending apocalypse?

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, manueljohnacosta <
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Lazy day riding around with friends got to introduce them to some mix
> trail riding. We decide then to Rivendell. Grant shows us earthquake
> dips! Hard upper body exercise. Decided randomly to go to Bears creek
> road, so Grant makes us a map. Shows us an igneous way to put the map
> on our handlebars! Also got to check out Grants temporary new ride,
> complete with aero bars! Believe it or not! Always a fun day at
> Rivendell. I always learn something new or interesting, most of the
> time it's non-bike related.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624044038665/
>
> -Manny "Dirt is fun" Acosta
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Mixtes

[Rene Sterental]

Indeed!

The story of the day and a very beautiful bike. I was at RBW on Friday
and test rode the Yves 58 and the 60. Also saw the Betty up close,
although it was the 52.

My story is I want to get a Mixte for my daughter to come and ride
with me, but I also want to be able to ride it with its upright
position, Albatross bars, etc.

With Albatross bars the 60 fit me best, but it would be too long if I
ever wanted a different handlebar. The 60 would likely be too big for
my daughter. She's 5'7" woth a PBH of 83.5.

The 58 will fit us both, and that's the one I'm going with. Between
the Betty and the Foy, I'll probably go with a Betty to avoid the
added delay of the Yves/custom paint. She'll be going back to school
by then.

The Betty in person looked much better than on the photos.

It will be interesting to see if one of the earlier ones popped up for
sale in the meantime.

Looking forward to a summer filled with S24Os with my children (well,
maybe two or three...)

Perhaps my youngest daughter will want to come as well... Perhaps even my wife!

All of those will be more driving/ biking/camping trips than hard-core
S24Os, but hey, anything is better than nothing!!! :-)

Need to change the family lifestyle!

René (the OT) ;-)

On 5/30/10, Rene Valbuena  wrote:
> David,
>
> Your Glorious Mixte story made my day.
>
> "The story doesn’t really have a moral except that the Glorius is a
> great bike and I married wisely."  -- what a line!
>
> Thanks,
>
> (Another) René
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Sprunger
> Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:50 AM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Rivendell Mixtes
>
> René,
>
> You asked for the mixte story, so here’s one although maybe not the
> one you had in mind. When my wife and I were engaged in the mid-80s,
> she volunteered that instead of an engagement ring, she would prefer a
> new bicycle.  Being frugal self-sufficient graduate/medical students,
> we ended up with a lower-end neon Specialized mountain bike that she
> rode for some years before putting it aside for a used XO-2.
>
> After two decades of marriage, our circumstances had changed, so for
> our 20th anniversary, I bought an unbuilt Glorius frame on ebay and
> built up the kind of bike I wish we could have afforded in 1987
> (although such a bike was probably not available then).  The
> Specialized is still in the basement for nostalgia’s sake.
>
> Some pictures are here:
> http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/glorius/
>
> The story doesn’t really have a moral except that the Glorius is a
> great bike and I married wisely.
>
> David Sprunger
> Fargo, ND
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Rene Sterental 
> wrote:
>> I know about the Yves Gomez and the Betty Foy, but I just discovered on
>> Flickr the Willbur and the Glorius. What's their story?
>>
>> René
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Mixtes

[CathyRN]

I have a 56 cm Rivendell Glorius that I bought from Rivendell in 2008.
I have had MANY bikes and I currently have 4: a custom Bike Friday
Pocket Crusoe with drop bars, a Specialized Dolce WSD road bike, a
Breezer Greenway, and the Glorius. It IS Glorius, and I ride it ALL
THE TIME. My husband has a 58 cm Yves Gomez. I test rode a 52 cm Betty
Foy at RBW about a year ago when we visited the bay area and thought
that was a terrifc bike, too.

On May 30, 3:43 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Indeed!
>
> The story of the day and a very beautiful bike. I was at RBW on Friday
> and test rode the Yves 58 and the 60. Also saw the Betty up close,
> although it was the 52.
>
> My story is I want to get a Mixte for my daughter to come and ride
> with me, but I also want to be able to ride it with its upright
> position, Albatross bars, etc.
>
> With Albatross bars the 60 fit me best, but it would be too long if I
> ever wanted a different handlebar. The 60 would likely be too big for
> my daughter. She's 5'7" woth a PBH of 83.5.
>
> The 58 will fit us both, and that's the one I'm going with. Between
> the Betty and the Foy, I'll probably go with a Betty to avoid the
> added delay of the Yves/custom paint. She'll be going back to school
> by then.
>
> The Betty in person looked much better than on the photos.
>
> It will be interesting to see if one of the earlier ones popped up for
> sale in the meantime.
>
> Looking forward to a summer filled with S24Os with my children (well,
> maybe two or three...)
>
> Perhaps my youngest daughter will want to come as well... Perhaps even my 
> wife!
>
> All of those will be more driving/ biking/camping trips than hard-core
> S24Os, but hey, anything is better than nothing!!! :-)
>
> Need to change the family lifestyle!
>
> René (the OT) ;-)
>
> On 5/30/10, Rene Valbuena  wrote:
>
>
>
> > David,
>
> > Your Glorious Mixte story made my day.
>
> > "The story doesn’t really have a moral except that the Glorius is a
> > great bike and I married wisely."  -- what a line!
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > (Another) René
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Sprunger
> > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:50 AM
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] Rivendell Mixtes
>
> > René,
>
> > You asked for the mixte story, so here’s one although maybe not the
> > one you had in mind. When my wife and I were engaged in the mid-80s,
> > she volunteered that instead of an engagement ring, she would prefer a
> > new bicycle.  Being frugal self-sufficient graduate/medical students,
> > we ended up with a lower-end neon Specialized mountain bike that she
> > rode for some years before putting it aside for a used XO-2.
>
> > After two decades of marriage, our circumstances had changed, so for
> > our 20th anniversary, I bought an unbuilt Glorius frame on ebay and
> > built up the kind of bike I wish we could have afforded in 1987
> > (although such a bike was probably not available then).  The
> > Specialized is still in the basement for nostalgia’s sake.
>
> > Some pictures are here:
> >http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/glorius/
>
> > The story doesn’t really have a moral except that the Glorius is a
> > great bike and I married wisely.
>
> > David Sprunger
> > Fargo, ND
>
> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Rene Sterental 
> > wrote:
> >> I know about the Yves Gomez and the Betty Foy, but I just discovered on
> >> Flickr the Willbur and the Glorius. What's their story?
>
> >> René
>
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[RBW] Rodeo weight fully built

[PATRICK MOORE]

I know that we are not meant to think such dirty thoughts, but the hell with
that. The Rodeo has me wishing for a derailleur bike for the first time in
almost 8 years. So, for a 58/59 built with conventional 32 spoke wheels but
light rims; 2 X no more than 8; dt shifters; Flite saddle; 25 mm race tires;
no crabon or titanium; what could I expect such a build to come to?

What are y'all's weights for y'all's built up Rodeos, in mid-range sizes?

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Re: [RBW] Rodeo weight fully built

[BPustow]

That's a silly Rivendell question. It depends on how many hamburgers you  
eat.. No wait, that's a logical question - just a silly Rivendell  answer.
Bill
Louisville, K
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/30/2010 8:26:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
bertin...@gmail.com writes:

I know  that we are not meant to think such dirty thoughts, but the hell 
with that.  The Rodeo has me wishing for a derailleur bike for the first time 
in almost 8  years. So, for a 58/59 built with conventional 32 spoke wheels 
but light rims;  2 X no more than 8; dt shifters; Flite saddle; 25 mm race 
tires; no crabon or  titanium; what could I expect such a build to come to?

What are y'all's  weights for y'all's built up Rodeos, in mid-range sizes?

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Re: [RBW] Rodeo weight fully built

[J. Douglas Way]

Patrick-

My 59 cm Roadeo built up with Campy triple Ergo 9, 32 spoke wheels with 
Campy hubs, light clincher tires, B-17 Ti, Ti BB, threadless 
fork/headset weighs about 21 lbs.


Doug Way
Boulder, CO

On 5/30/10 6:26 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
I know that we are not meant to think such dirty thoughts, but the 
hell with that. The Rodeo has me wishing for a derailleur bike for the 
first time in almost 8 years. So, for a 58/59 built with conventional 
32 spoke wheels but light rims; 2 X no more than 8; dt shifters; Flite 
saddle; 25 mm race tires; no crabon or titanium; what could I expect 
such a build to come to?


What are y'all's weights for y'all's built up Rodeos, in mid-range sizes?

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[RBW] Re: Rodeo weight fully built

[dpco]

patrick,
i have a 59cm roadeo built as follows: nitto pearl stem, 44 noodle
bars, record hub with velocity aerohead rims 32h.,
campy centaur ergo shifters and derailleurs, thomson seatpost, b-17ti,
116 phil bb (stainless spindle and cups), ta zephyr 50-34, look
pedals, and lastly, 700x28 grand bois tires. 21.6lbs. not superlight,
but who cares. sorry that the components are different, but it can
give you an idea. you can save some weight by going with a threadless
headset ( at least 1/2 lb.). by the way, its the best handling bike
that i have owned.
don

On May 30, 5:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> I know that we are not meant to think such dirty thoughts, but the hell with
> that. The Rodeo has me wishing for a derailleur bike for the first time in
> almost 8 years. So, for a 58/59 built with conventional 32 spoke wheels but
> light rims; 2 X no more than 8; dt shifters; Flite saddle; 25 mm race tires;
> no crabon or titanium; what could I expect such a build to come to?
>
> What are y'all's weights for y'all's built up Rodeos, in mid-range sizes?
>
> --
> Patrick Moore
> Albuquerque, NM
> For professional resumes, contact
> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
> (505) 227-0523

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[RBW] Re: Cool, transportation-oriented bike shops in Boston?

[Will]

Fourth for Harris Cyclery. And you can get there from Boston South
Station via commuter rail (Harris is just a few blocks from the W.
Newton station; http://www.mbta.com/schedules_and_maps/rail).


On May 30, 7:41 am, Bill Spencer  wrote:
> There is always Independent Fabrication in Somerville. Not really a
> bike shop per se but cool none the less.
>
> On May 29, 10:29 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Heading there in a couple of days. Know about ANT, but they are quite
> > far out of town now (Holliston). Are there any cool shops in Boston/
> > Cambridge/Somerville worth checking out?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Gernot

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[RBW] scooter widda shock

[Grant Petersen]

Aero bars AND a suspension fork!

Signs of the pending apocalypse?


Cheers,
David


I scoot one-handed, and I tried resting on the grip, but I slip forward.
Mark rigged the rest for me; works great. Shocks came widda scoot. I'm
getting into this scooter thing. Don't be shocked if, a year and a half or
two (prolly not, but scooting is saving my sanity for now. I'm the old
guy with the blue cast scooting around town, in the neighborhoods.

kickbikeusa.com, I think. Not bad...mix it up (even if you don't have to)

G

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Re: [RBW] scooter widda shock

[cyclotourist]

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Grant Petersen  wrote:

> Aero bars AND a suspension fork!
>
> Signs of the pending apocalypse?
>
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>
> I scoot one-handed, and I tried resting on the grip, but I slip forward.
> Mark rigged the rest for me; works great. Shocks came widda scoot. I'm
> getting into this scooter thing. Don't be shocked if, a year and a half or
> two (prolly not, but scooting is saving my sanity for now. I'm the old
> guy with the blue cast scooting around town, in the neighborhoods.
>
> kickbikeusa.com, I think. Not bad...mix it up (even if you don't have to)
>
> G
>
>
It's ok, you can put disc brakes on it.  XT hydros are highly recommended.

:-)

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Redlands, CA

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wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

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[RBW] Happy new AHH owner

[maclarensf]

After two years of wanting a Rivendell bicycle, I finally took the
plunge this April and spec'd out the options I wanted on my dream AAH.
This Memorial Day weekend I picked up my new 63 AHH and enjoyed my
first ride on the bike through Golden Gate Park in SF to the Pacific
Ocean. The bike rides so smooth and sturdy! Like a Mercedes Benz
sedan.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/87662...@n00/4653221421/


Richard

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Sugino XD2 on old Centurion?

[Crazy4Suki]

Thanks, Charlie - Glad to hear somebody else has done it with little
fuss or muss.  I thought about going with a triple, but I am hardly
ever on the largest ring in front... and that Quickbeam crank is just
so pretty LOL

On May 30, 11:10 am, charlie  wrote:
> I had the same bike and converted it to a triple and no you won't need
> a new rear or front derailleur.You will need to slide the front
> derailleur down closer to the 40 tooth ring (about a chains width gap
> or a little less) to account for the smaller 40 Tooth large ring. You
> may however need a different bottom bracket and I would just get one
> from Riv.  You'll probably need either a 110mm  or 113mm one. If the
> old one works without rubbing and it shifts your are good to go but
> the new sealed bearing units are nice and easy to install.
>
> On May 29, 7:35 pm, Crazy4Suki  wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have an old Centurion Lemans in my garage with downtube
> > shifters.  I can manage most rides with it as is, but I'd like to be
> > able to do long rides with hills so I started looking at other
> > options.  I ordered the Quickbeam Sugino XD2 for the Centurion as it
> > has 40/32T which should help me with hills.  With its current 49/39
> > setup, I never use the big chainring.
>
> > Does anybody know if I'll also need a new derailler for it?  I wanted
> > to keep the changes (and related costs) to a minimum, so did not order
> > a derailer.

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[RBW] Re: Happy new AHH owner

[Pondero]

Nice choice.  Anticipation makes for a sweet reward, doesn't it?

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[RBW] Grant potsting to list

[nawrock]

It is really nice to see Grant posting to this list.   Thanks Grant for keeping 
an eye on us lovers of your products. 

Dave Nawrocki 

Fort Collins, CO

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Re: [RBW] Pletscher 'twin-legger' installation tips

[Robert F. Harrison]

Me too...I left the legs on my mine as is as well. It gives me plenty of
room to work with when I switch gears on my Quickbeam (or fix flats...two
this weekend from a pesky piece of glass I couldn't find...sigh).

Aloha!

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ray Shine  wrote:

> I agree with Steve.  I also use the Pletscher.  I left the legs as is.  I
> like it a lot.  Plenty of room to drop my wheel to fix a flat.  I'd leave it
> alone.
>
>
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statrix.statrix.com

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Re: [RBW] Happy new AHH owner

[Ray Shine]

That's sweet!  Like the fender lines, too.  The Holsen blue is my all-time fav.

Good choice.  Enjoy the rides.

Ray






From: maclarensf 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sun, May 30, 2010 2:12:16 PM
Subject: [RBW] Happy new AHH owner

After two years of wanting a Rivendell bicycle, I finally took the
plunge this April and spec'd out the options I wanted on my dream AAH.
This Memorial Day weekend I picked up my new 63 AHH and enjoyed my
first ride on the bike through Golden Gate Park in SF to the Pacific
Ocean. The bike rides so smooth and sturdy! Like a Mercedes Benz
sedan.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/87662...@n00/4653221421/


Richard

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[RBW] FS: 61cm Bleriot Frameset (Santa Fe, NM)

[tim becker]

Hey all,

  Sorry for the spam.  I'm selling my 61 cm Bleriot frameset w/ headset and
bb.  Asking $675 w/ shipping included to a good home. (US)

I'm the second owner, rode it for a couple of months before I got my
Atlantis but I haven't done much with it since then.  Treated w/ boeshield,
stored inside, no rust, a few nicks in the paint in the usual spots.

pictures here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/beckertronix/RivendellBleriot?feat=directlink

email me off list with any questions.

thanks,
Tim Becker
Santa Fe, NM
beckertronix  gmail dot com

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[RBW] Portland Riv Ride updated details

[b hamon]

Hi campers!
This is a reminder that Sunday, June 6, there will be an informal Riv lovers' 
Ride in Portland (OR).We will use a route similar to the old Slug Velo Rose 
Ride route (because it's Rose Festival time and the roses are in bloom all over 
the city!).
We'll meet at noon at Peninsula Park Rose Gardens, corner of N Albina and 
Ainsworth (we'll meet at the top of the stairs on Ainsworth between Albina and 
Commercial sts, south end of the rose garden).
Please come gawk, admire, take photos of and RIDE your Riv'd out bikes 
(Rivendell, B'Stone, and other classic steel bikes in a similar vein, shellac 
optional). I had considered asking folks to bring a sack lunch but it's not 
clear where'd we'd picnic. This is a ONE-WAY route ending at the Lucky Lab 
Brewpub (SE 9th and Hawthorne).Please bring money for a bite to eat at the end 
of the ride. Please also wear clothes, as this is in no affiliated with the 
folks who bring you the World Naked Ride. Ride will take place rain or shine 
(it's Portland), so make like the Girl and Boy Scouts and Be Prepared.
I am writing this the day before I perform at Folklife Festival, so if I 
changed some details from the last time I mentioned this ride, I apologize. I'm 
posting this from memory.
Beth

http://bikelovejones1.blogspot.com/




  

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