date:20100312

All this talk about the new Rodeo prompts me to ask how it rides compared to
the other Riv models: Ram, Rom, Sam, AHH, Atlantis, Legolas?

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[RBW] Re: V-Brake lever question

2010-03-12 Thread Michael_S

I thought it was a skink?  which is in the  lizard family but with
different physical attributes than "true" lizards.

and if you do choose v-brakes... the best design out there is the CC
Direct Curve.
I've alway felt though, that well adjusted cantilevers stop just as
well and look much better than any v-brake.

http://www.canecreek.com/component-other?product=direct-curve-5

~Mike~

On Mar 12, 6:37 am, Buck  wrote:
> C'mon... L-I-Z-A-R-D-S!!! How can you put a price on lizards?
> Priceless...
>
> Speaking of lizards and priceless... if you haven't seen it on
> youtube... the Lego version of Eddie Izzard's Death Star Canteen
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw
>
> As for the finish, etc., the CC's are very nice and the overall
> quality is excellent.
>
> On Mar 11, 10:33 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the lead!
>
> > Has anyone determined if there is a difference between CC and Tektros, other
> > than finish and lizards?
>
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Buck  wrote:
> > > I have the CC Drop V levers. I originally mounted Avid V Brakes (which
> > > came off my Stumpjumper) on my Atlantis with Paselas, so I needed the
> > > extra travel. I bought most of my parts from Harris Cyclery (and
> > > possibly the levers... don't remember) since they are my local dealer
> > > and THE nicest people. The levers are very nice, though not so nice
> > > that I would spend $60 if they weren't specifically for V brakes. If
> > > that makes sense. But I would have spent $40 and... I googled them and
> > > they're available at a couple of places, for around $40. At
> > > aebike.com, they're $42 and if you can find something else and get the
> > > total to $75, shipping is free. Ironically, I later swapped out my
> > > Avids for Paul cantis... so I don't need the extra travel, but the
> > > CC's work fine with the cantis, too.
>
> > > On Mar 8, 10:36 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > > > What are the down-sides to using a "regular" road lever (Tektro/Cane
> > > Creek)
> > > > with V- Brakes?
>
> > > > I'm starting to piece together a mtn. bike (frame TBD).  I'm starting
> > > with
> > > > what I have lying around and going from there...
>
> > > > Long shot request.  Anyone have a single front Dia Compe 287-V lying
> > > around
> > > > unused and lonely?  I need the long-pull "V" kind, not the regular 287
> > > > model.  I have a right I'm not using, but the left is on our tandem.
>
> > > > FWIW, Cane Creek has a really nice looking updated version.  Pricey as
> > > all
> > > > get out though.<
> > >http://harriscyclery.net/product/dia-compe-scr-5v-drop-levers-for-v-b...>
>
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > David
> > > > Redlands, CA
>
> > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
> > > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
> > > > scientist guy
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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread Ron MH

I'd echo all the comments here regarding the Carradice Barley. I have
a Pendle and it's big enough for all my commuting gear. The Barley
sounds perfect for your hypothetical bike (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).

As David said, happy hypothetical birthday!

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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-12 Thread Michael_S

I think the new Marathon Extreme in a 700x40 would be the cat's
pajama's.

I wonder how big a tire can be squeezed in the Hunqua?  I've been
eyeing the Kenda Karma in a 29 x 1.9 for my Hillborne. which would
probably be the biggest I could use.

and watching that video makes me want to go riding. Mud and all.

~Mike~


On Mar 12, 2:06 am, mundo  wrote:
> Oh no! Can't view the video here in the UK - YouTube have blocked it
> 'cos of the soundtrack - dammit
>
> On Mar 12, 4:55 am, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Nice video. Thanks for putting it together and posting it.
>
> > --mike
>
> > On Mar 11, 2:16 pm, John Bennett  wrote:
>
> > > Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing).
>
> > > Just posted on YouTube.
>
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[RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread JoelMatthews

If you plug in a route and find a problem, send feed back!

As others have mentioned, this is a beta program.  Google will most
likely make changes based on the feedback.  This has great potential.
We can help Google make it more helpful for us.

On Mar 12, 7:43 am, GeorgeS  wrote:
> To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
> to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
> me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
> highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
> are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
> GeorgeS
>
> On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
> > bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
> > works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
> > close to how I prefer. Check it out.
>
> > Dave Minyard
> > Santa Maria, Ca.- Hide quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Ken Yokanovich

I simply love it. I used to use the "walking" option, though the
Bicycling option seems to do an even better job of picking a route.
(Yes, it likely does make some decisions on keeping the route shorter
in certain instances.)

One of the many great things about Google Maps is that you click on
the route and drag it to different roads.  It is VERY easy to
customize your route.  You can RIGHT-CLICK (sorry cannot help you Mac
people) on the map and Add Destination.  So initial routes might not
be perfect, there are LOTS of ways to visually review your route using
satellite view and change your route.  I thought it did a pretty
decent job of picking an acceptable route.  For instance, here is a
link to an anticipated route for this weekend:

http://tinyurl.com/yzoc8c8

On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
> bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
> works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
> close to how I prefer. Check it out.
>
> Dave Minyard
> Santa Maria, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: Hubshiners? UPDATE!

2010-03-12 Thread montana_cyclist

The ones I used in the 50s and 60s were narrow and allowed a lot of
the shiny hub to show.

On Mar 11, 4:15 pm, Ron MH  wrote:
> So, help me understand these things. Why on earth would anyone use
> them? I have no trouble understanding that they'd do a fine job of
> shining your hubs (as if that really mattered). But, then again, in
> use they hide the hub and thus you can't see the shine anyway. Do
> people with hubshiners remove them for special occasions so they can
> actually experience the blinding bling of their hubs or do they keep
> the hub shiner on at all times like those people who cover their
> furniture with clear vinyl so that the couch stays nice and clean?

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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Connell

For Twin Cities cyclists, i'll give a little plug for the Cyclopath
project at the U of MN: http://cyclopath.org/

It's a wiki approach to route mapping, so users can enter routes,
notes, and destinations anywhere on the map, and it's constantly
improving. It's an excellent resource for on- and off-road routes all
around town, but it covers only the Twin Cities metro area, so i'm
really happy to have a bicycle route option on Google. Plus, Cyclopath
was recently released as open source, if anyone wants to start their
own regional map!
-- 
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Ken Yokanovich
 wrote:
> I simply love it. I used to use the "walking" option, though the
> Bicycling option seems to do an even better job of picking a route.
> (Yes, it likely does make some decisions on keeping the route shorter
> in certain instances.)
>
> One of the many great things about Google Maps is that you click on
> the route and drag it to different roads.  It is VERY easy to
> customize your route.  You can RIGHT-CLICK (sorry cannot help you Mac
> people) on the map and Add Destination.  So initial routes might not
> be perfect, there are LOTS of ways to visually review your route using
> satellite view and change your route.  I thought it did a pretty
> decent job of picking an acceptable route.  For instance, here is a
> link to an anticipated route for this weekend:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yzoc8c8
>
> On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
>> bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
>> works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
>> close to how I prefer. Check it out.
>>
>> Dave Minyard
>> Santa Maria, Ca.
>
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[RBW] Screwing around with names (was Rodeos and other Rivs)

2010-03-12 Thread James Warren

Your word order made me realize something. Do you all realize that the when/if the Soma bike starts being made, the following bikes will be a part of Rivendell history:
Ram/Rom/Sam/Som
And it will be important that we be allowed to abbreviate the Soma name this way and benefit from the time saving from not having to write that cumbersom "a" at the end.
Currently, there's a Bom, but no Bam. They might have to make a new bike now. (Kind of like how astronomers discovered Neptune by looking where it should be theoretically based on the gravity patterns that had finally been fully described.)
-Original Message- From: PATRICK MOORE Sent: Mar 12, 2010 7:09 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Rodeos and other Rivs All this talk about the new Rodeo prompts me to ask how it rides compared to the other Riv models: Ram, Rom, Sam, AHH, Atlantis, Legolas?
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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

On Mar 12, 8:50 am, "Scott G."  wrote:
> For the Roadeo, put the stuff in the back,  a Carradice Barley is an
> excellent bag for what you
> are talking about, add a set of toe straps for tying your wet goretex
> jacket to the outside of the bag.

+1.  you can jam a lot of stuff into a barley (or the equivalent acorn
saddlebag).  and the loops for strapping stuff to the outside of the
bag is a really nice feature - it's probably the one thing a i prefer
about a saddlebag compared to an h-bar bag.  there are ways to rig a
wet jacket/jersey with an h-bar bag (or you could just strap it under
the saddle), but a saddlebag makes this very easy.  also, no racks
required and you could easily remove when you don't need it (club
ride, etc.).

a seatpouch would also work, but it makes it more finicky to tie down
a wet jacket.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread Bruce

Another Carradice bag that deserves consideration is the Cadet. Capacious 
without the smaller outer pockets (It's the guts of a Nelson or Nelson 
longflap) and reasonably priced. Accepts outside straps for tying wet/extra 
gear to.

The Barley (11" x 6")  has 7 liters of space and retails for $109.00

The Cadet (14" x 10") has 13 liters of space and retails for $85.00.

And for good measure, the Junior, 8 liters for $74.00 but no provision for 
exterior straps.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp







From: Patrick in VT 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:01:21 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

On Mar 12, 8:50 am, "Scott G."  wrote:
> For the Roadeo, put the stuff in the back,  a Carradice Barley is an
> excellent bag for what you
> are talking about, add a set of toe straps for tying your wet goretex
> jacket to the outside of the bag.

+1.  you can jam a lot of stuff into a barley (or the equivalent acorn
saddlebag).  and the loops for strapping stuff to the outside of the
bag is a really nice feature - it's probably the one thing a i prefer
about a saddlebag compared to an h-bar bag.  there are ways to rig a
wet jacket/jersey with an h-bar bag (or you could just strap it under
the saddle), but a saddlebag makes this very easy.  also, no racks
required and you could easily remove when you don't need it (club
ride, etc.).

a seatpouch would also work, but it makes it more finicky to tie down
a wet jacket.


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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Shaun Meehan

I wonder how Google will go about deciphering and incorporating the
data they receive from feedback. The route that it tells me to take
for my commute is 8.7 miles, which is considerably shorter than the 13
mile route that I usually take. I really dislike riding that route,
even though it's much more direct, because it sends me down a
two-lane, blacktop highway with narrow lanes, no shoulder and a LOT of
cars going 55mph to 70mph. I've ridden it occasionally when I'm in a
hurry but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone. At the same
time, I would hesitate to report it as a "problem" because it *is*
ridable. If someone like the woman Jim was discussing reported all of
the "problem" routes that she identified, the folks at Google could be
led to believe that virtually no roads are safe for riding. It's just
so subjective that it seems like it'd be very difficult to sort
through the feedback.

Shaun Meehan

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant  wrote:
> I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
> selected “bicycling,” and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
> avoid whenever possible — and for which there are several safer routes. I
> think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
> problem link.
>
> --
> Jon “Papa” Grant
> Illustration + Information Graphics
> Austin, Texas
> jgr...@papagrant.com
> 512-284-9599
>
> Drawings — all sorts
>
>
> 
> From: Ethan 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps
>
> it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select "bicycling" as
> the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
> you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
> the issue.
>
> Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
> home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
> to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).
>
> Looking forward to it!
>
> Ethan
>
> On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS  wrote:
>> To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
>> to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
>> me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
>> highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
>> are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
>> GeorgeS
>>
>> On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions
>> > for
>> > bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if
>> > it
>> > works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was
>> > real
>> > close to how I prefer. Check it out.
>>
>> > Dave Minyard
>> > Santa Maria, Ca.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Connell

In cases like this, it might help to just quantify the things about
the route that make the road challenging: width of the shoulder, speed
of the traffic, etc., and let each rider decide. I haven't spent any
time with the Google version, but in Cyclopath i've made comments like
"traffic 60mph, light outside of rush hour, wide shoulder, but rumble
strip leaves no room to ride 2 abreast".

-- 
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Shaun Meehan  wrote:
> I wonder how Google will go about deciphering and incorporating the
> data they receive from feedback. The route that it tells me to take
> for my commute is 8.7 miles, which is considerably shorter than the 13
> mile route that I usually take. I really dislike riding that route,
> even though it's much more direct, because it sends me down a
> two-lane, blacktop highway with narrow lanes, no shoulder and a LOT of
> cars going 55mph to 70mph. I've ridden it occasionally when I'm in a
> hurry but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone. At the same
> time, I would hesitate to report it as a "problem" because it *is*
> ridable. If someone like the woman Jim was discussing reported all of
> the "problem" routes that she identified, the folks at Google could be
> led to believe that virtually no roads are safe for riding. It's just
> so subjective that it seems like it'd be very difficult to sort
> through the feedback.
>
> Shaun Meehan
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant  wrote:
>> I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
>> selected “bicycling,” and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
>> avoid whenever possible — and for which there are several safer routes. I
>> think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
>> problem link.
>>
>> --
>> Jon “Papa” Grant
>> Illustration + Information Graphics
>> Austin, Texas
>> jgr...@papagrant.com
>> 512-284-9599
>>
>> Drawings — all sorts
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Ethan 
>> Reply-To: 
>> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps
>>
>> it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select "bicycling" as
>> the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
>> you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
>> the issue.
>>
>> Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
>> home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
>> to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).
>>
>> Looking forward to it!
>>
>> Ethan
>>
>> On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS  wrote:
>>> To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
>>> to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
>>> me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
>>> highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
>>> are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
>>> GeorgeS
>>>
>>> On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions
>>> > for
>>> > bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if
>>> > it
>>> > works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was
>>> > real
>>> > close to how I prefer. Check it out.
>>>
>>> > Dave Minyard
>>> > Santa Maria, Ca.
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[RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Ken Yokanovich

There really is no difference in the auto-centric world though.  My
wife will jump on the freeway to go a mile, I prefer to drive like I
ride.  I am generally a back-road and side-street route-goer.  If I
look for directions via any route-planner I get a route on major
freeways.

This is one of the few things that I like about Cyclopath that Bill C
mentioned.  It gives users the ability to create a profile and
personal ratings on roads and routes with options for route-planning
based on preferences for distance or bike-ability.  It's lack of
mapping coverage area, lack of options to manipulate route, flash-
based interface, and even some weirdness to getting it to plan a route
I want out-weigh its usefulness to me though.

On Mar 12, 10:18 am, Shaun Meehan  wrote:
> I wonder how Google will go about deciphering and incorporating the
> data they receive from feedback. The route that it tells me to take
> for my commute is 8.7 miles, which is considerably shorter than the 13
> mile route that I usually take. I really dislike riding that route,
> even though it's much more direct, because it sends me down a
> two-lane, blacktop highway with narrow lanes, no shoulder and a LOT of
> cars going 55mph to 70mph. I've ridden it occasionally when I'm in a
> hurry but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone. At the same
> time, I would hesitate to report it as a "problem" because it *is*
> ridable. If someone like the woman Jim was discussing reported all of
> the "problem" routes that she identified, the folks at Google could be
> led to believe that virtually no roads are safe for riding. It's just
> so subjective that it seems like it'd be very difficult to sort
> through the feedback.
>
> Shaun Meehan
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant  wrote:
> > I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
> > selected “bicycling,” and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
> > avoid whenever possible — and for which there are several safer routes. I
> > think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
> > problem link.
>
> > --
> > Jon “Papa” Grant
> > Illustration + Information Graphics
> > Austin, Texas
> > jgr...@papagrant.com
> > 512-284-9599
>
> > Drawings — all sorts
>
> > 
> > From: Ethan 
> > Reply-To: 
> > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps
>
> > it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select "bicycling" as
> > the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
> > you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
> > the issue.
>
> > Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
> > home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
> > to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).
>
> > Looking forward to it!
>
> > Ethan
>
> > On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS  wrote:
> >> To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
> >> to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
> >> me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
> >> highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
> >> are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
> >> GeorgeS
>
> >> On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions
> >> > for
> >> > bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if
> >> > it
> >> > works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was
> >> > real
> >> > close to how I prefer. Check it out.
>
> >> > Dave Minyard
> >> > Santa Maria, Ca.
>
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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

On Mar 12, 11:13 am, Bruce  wrote:
> Another Carradice bag that deserves consideration is the Cadet. Capacious 
> without the smaller outer pockets (It's the guts of a Nelson or Nelson 
> longflap) and reasonably priced. Accepts outside straps for tying wet/extra 
> gear to.
>
> The Barley (11" x 6")  has 7 liters of space and retails for $109.00
>
> The Cadet (14" x 10") has 13 liters of space and retails for $85.00.
>
> And for good measure, the Junior, 8 liters for $74.00 but no provision for 
> exterior straps.
>
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carradice.asp

FYI - the last time i checked, the barley is available for around $50
from wiggle or sjs cycles in England.

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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread Shaun Meehan

I just checked out the Cyclopath website (thanks for the link btw) and
I like it a lot. It gives me the same route that Google selected but
when I click on the "rating" function it shows the dicey section that
I described as "poor" and then once you get past a certain point it
shoots up into the "excellent" range, which is exactly how I'd rate it
when I ride it on my Quickbeam (obligatory Riv content because this
thread is pretty OT although very interesting). I was also surprised
it had data on my commute because I'm pretty far north of the metro.
Very cool!

Shaun Meehan

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Bill Connell  wrote:
> In cases like this, it might help to just quantify the things about
> the route that make the road challenging: width of the shoulder, speed
> of the traffic, etc., and let each rider decide. I haven't spent any
> time with the Google version, but in Cyclopath i've made comments like
> "traffic 60mph, light outside of rush hour, wide shoulder, but rumble
> strip leaves no room to ride 2 abreast".
>
> --
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> St. Paul, MN
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Shaun Meehan  wrote:
>> I wonder how Google will go about deciphering and incorporating the
>> data they receive from feedback. The route that it tells me to take
>> for my commute is 8.7 miles, which is considerably shorter than the 13
>> mile route that I usually take. I really dislike riding that route,
>> even though it's much more direct, because it sends me down a
>> two-lane, blacktop highway with narrow lanes, no shoulder and a LOT of
>> cars going 55mph to 70mph. I've ridden it occasionally when I'm in a
>> hurry but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone. At the same
>> time, I would hesitate to report it as a "problem" because it *is*
>> ridable. If someone like the woman Jim was discussing reported all of
>> the "problem" routes that she identified, the folks at Google could be
>> led to believe that virtually no roads are safe for riding. It's just
>> so subjective that it seems like it'd be very difficult to sort
>> through the feedback.
>>
>> Shaun Meehan
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jon Grant  wrote:
>>> I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
>>> selected “bicycling,” and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
>>> avoid whenever possible — and for which there are several safer routes. I
>>> think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
>>> problem link.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon “Papa” Grant
>>> Illustration + Information Graphics
>>> Austin, Texas
>>> jgr...@papagrant.com
>>> 512-284-9599
>>>
>>> Drawings — all sorts
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Ethan 
>>> Reply-To: 
>>> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps
>>>
>>> it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select "bicycling" as
>>> the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
>>> you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
>>> the issue.
>>>
>>> Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
>>> home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
>>> to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).
>>>
>>> Looking forward to it!
>>>
>>> Ethan
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS  wrote:
 To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
 to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
 me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
 highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
 are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
 GeorgeS

 On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:

 > Hi all,
 > Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions
 > for
 > bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if
 > it
 > works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was
 > real
 > close to how I prefer. Check it out.

 > Dave Minyard
 > Santa Maria, Ca.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Good way to spend your Mondays...

2010-03-12 Thread Jim M.

Nice pics! Looks like a great ride. Where's that bike path
undercrossing? I don't recognize that spot.

jim

On Mar 11, 8:49 pm, manueljohnacosta 
wrote:
> Got off of school early on Monday so I joined my road buddy Tommy to a
> quick bike ride to my old college, CSU East Bay. Getting there as
> quickly as we can we were greeting with beautiful weather until we got
> to the steepest part Campus Drive and then hail comes from the sky to
> make our decent down exciting and dangerous. We cut through the back
> of the college to find a nice little single track that took us into
> Garin Regional Park. After getting lost for a bit we find our way back
> and instead of going home we took a detour to Oyster Bay to cross the
> not finished bridge that connects to the oakland airport. Finished
> with an awesome sunset. Great day to spend a Monday.
>
> Pictures prove that the story isn't fake:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623459129607/
>
> -Manny "Monday can be exciting" Acosta

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread Bruce

Then perhaps the other bags are equally good deals? Any duty to pay when 
ordering from overseas?

From: Patrick in VT 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:41:12 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Which bag?

FYI - the last time i checked, the barley is available for around $50
from wiggle or sjs cycles in England.

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[RBW] Re: Best Riv for Centuries, Charity Rides, Supported Touring

2010-03-12 Thread D. Goff

Let me know how you like the touring capabilities of your Sam!  I will
post pics when mine gets delivered.  Build is being done by Mark at
Saturday Cycles, Utah.

D.G.

On Mar 11, 11:36 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Oh, you will, you will.
>
> Give us your evaluations and photos of the SH. I just bought one to do
> loaded touring on and found it surprisingly fast. Photos from me shortly,
> after I install fenders, Ostrich with decaleur, possibly lower-Q crank, and
> new dynohub front wheel.
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:16 PM, D. Goff  wrote:
> > Thanks for the input everyone.
>
> > I pulled the trigger on a Sam today which will be my first Rivendell
> > and seems capable enough.  Will get to know that bike first then
> > consider whether I need another!
>
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> Albuquerque, NM
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> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
> (505) 227-0523

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread EricP

Another vote for the Barley.  It's the default saddle bag on my
Hillborne.

Find the outside pockets useful for keeping a spare tube on one side
and often a camera in the other.

If you don't need the pockets, and just a bit more space another
option could be the Sackville small.

FWIW, there is an Acorn large saddlebag on eBay.  (Somebody needs to
buy it before I'm foolish and click "buy it now.")

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Mar 12, 10:57 am, Bruce  wrote:
> Then perhaps the other bags are equally good deals? Any duty to pay when 
> ordering from overseas?
>
> 
> From: Patrick in VT 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:41:12 AM
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Which bag?
>
> FYI - the last time i checked, the barley is available for around $50
> from wiggle or sjs cycles in England.

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[RBW] Re: Good way to spend your Mondays...

2010-03-12 Thread manueljohnacosta

It's the Ron Cowan Pwy. Right next to the Oakland Airport. Always a
cool easy ride through.

-Manny

On Mar 12, 8:50 am, "Jim M."  wrote:
> Nice pics! Looks like a great ride. Where's that bike path
> undercrossing? I don't recognize that spot.
>
> jim
>
> On Mar 11, 8:49 pm, manueljohnacosta 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Got off of school early on Monday so I joined my road buddy Tommy to a
> > quick bike ride to my old college, CSU East Bay. Getting there as
> > quickly as we can we were greeting with beautiful weather until we got
> > to the steepest part Campus Drive and then hail comes from the sky to
> > make our decent down exciting and dangerous. We cut through the back
> > of the college to find a nice little single track that took us into
> > Garin Regional Park. After getting lost for a bit we find our way back
> > and instead of going home we took a detour to Oyster Bay to cross the
> > not finished bridge that connects to the oakland airport. Finished
> > with an awesome sunset. Great day to spend a Monday.
>
> > Pictures prove that the story isn't fake:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623459129607/
>
> > -Manny "Monday can be exciting" Acosta

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[RBW] Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

I'm probably not alone for having a little bit of nostalgia for high
quality cycling shoes that work well with toe clips and straps.  I
still have my old Sidi Cycle Titaniums that I use at my vacation spot
in the plains with my vacation bike, a 1992 RB1.  I pretty much keep
my eyes out constantly for a suitable Rando/Brevet/Touring shoe.  Yes,
I have clipless pedals and fine shoes to use with them, but I don't
always want to run those.

As I'm sure many of you have seen, all the vintage shoes you'll find
are tiny.  37-40 is easy.  45 is hard.  Imagine my surprise when I
found a NOS New In Box set of Detto Pietro full-leather cycling shoes
in a 45 on ebay.  I had to have them, 'shopped victoriously' and got
them for a bit under $100.  The box has the model name 'Cross' written
on it.  I used Detto Saronni's in 1982, and these appear to precede
those in design and aesthetics.  The full leather sole has a slotted
rubber tread on the toe.  Too far forward to engage the hind cage of a
toeclip pedal, but I've managed to get it to grab reasonably well on
the front cage of a Suntour Sprint pedal.

I took them to the cobbler to get a heel put on to protect the sole
when I step.  He was kind of an ornery English coot, and insisted the
rubber tread was aftermarket, and refused to work on them until after
I used them and was certain I liked them.  I found that odd, but
left.  Perhaps I'll go to another cobbler.

Anyway, I'm super excited about these shoes.  Do any of you recognize
the model?  Have a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4427398510/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4426642809/

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar geometry?

2010-03-12 Thread newenglandbike

It looks like the top-tube on the 62cm frame in the photo is about
62.5cm long (horizontal).It's hard to be exact but I got this
number using the 'measure tool' in photoshop to count the number of
pixels along the seat-tube C-T, and from the seat lug to the HT C-C,
and employing some ratio arithmetic to derive the TT length.

The front-center length looks like about 66.3 cm.

And yes, I have way too much time on my hands.

On Mar 12, 3:31 am, happyriding  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are the full specs available anywhere, particularly: theoretical TT
> length, ST angle, HT angle, and chain stay length?  What are the
> differences between the Hunqapillar and the the too-long-in-the-top-
> tube Bombadil?  I'm interested in the largest size.
>
> Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread nathan spindel

I don't know, but I would like to share this awesome related photo I
recently found:

Fédérico Ezquerra, 25 years old in 1934 Tour de France:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nationaalarchief/3675431792/sizes/o/

-nathan

On Thursday, March 11, 2010, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> Speaking of posters, but not of H posters, where can one buy posters of some 
> of those old, famous photos of Coppi and Bartali (together or singly) in the 
> mountains?
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

G. says a 60mm Big Apple on the original pdf.  I don't know how that
translates in knobbies though.  I'd want to run Nanoraptors.


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Michael_S wrote:

> I think the new Marathon Extreme in a 700x40 would be the cat's
> pajama's.
>
> I wonder how big a tire can be squeezed in the Hunqua?  I've been
> eyeing the Kenda Karma in a 29 x 1.9 for my Hillborne. which would
> probably be the biggest I could use.
>
> and watching that video makes me want to go riding. Mud and all.
>
> ~Mike~
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2:06 am, mundo  wrote:
> > Oh no! Can't view the video here in the UK - YouTube have blocked it
> > 'cos of the soundtrack - dammit
> >
> > On Mar 12, 4:55 am, Mike  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Nice video. Thanks for putting it together and posting it.
> >
> > > --mike
> >
> > > On Mar 11, 2:16 pm, John Bennett  wrote:
> >
> > > > Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing).
> >
> > > > Just posted on YouTube.
> >
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
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Re: [RBW] Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Connell

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:32 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> Speaking of posters, but not of H posters, where can one buy posters of some
> of those old, famous photos of Coppi and Bartali (together or singly) in the
> mountains?


They don't seem to have poster prints (wouldn't that be great), but
you can get prints of the photos at the Wool Jersey galleries. There
are some great ones in Aldo's Pic of the Day set:
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/

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[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-12 Thread rob markwardt

Like all posts on bike/component likes/dislikes I should have prefaced
with  IMO, however, I'm a rain rider so I'm kind of picky.  I like
metal because they are longer (yours do look like an improvement
though), I think they are more secure (if installed correctly), less
rattley (sp?...know what I mean?), they don't warp, and, most
importantly..IMO...they look better!



On Mar 12, 12:01 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
> On Mar 12, 2:05 pm, rob markwardt  wrote:
>
> > Those do look nice but, once you go metal you'll never go back.
>
> I am not saying you are wrong, but why? Aesthetics, durability,...?
>
> Gernot
>
>
>
> > If  you are in Seattle I've got a used pair of black SKS's that I'd
> > give away.
>
> > On Mar 11, 7:15 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
> > > > they look better than the normal sks fenders
>
> > > > do you think you could take a shot of them down the length of the
> > > > bike? Like from the back?
>
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > -sv
>
> > > Like this?
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4425669203/in/photostream/
>
> > > Let me know if you want other angles...- Hide quoted text -
>
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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-12 Thread doug peterson

Way cool!  The best video I've seen in a long time; really shows the
versatility.  And the bike looks kinda neat in bare metal.  I'm always
envious of people who can take photos / videos from their bike.

dougP

On Mar 11, 2:16 pm, John Bennett  wrote:
> Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing).
>
> Just posted on YouTube.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM

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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-12 Thread doug peterson

Phil:

California, duuude!  Fenders optional :).

dougP

On Mar 11, 5:48 pm, Phil Roberts  wrote:
> Butbutwhere are the fenders?
>
> I'm just imagining the mud everywhere. Including the rider. Nice editing.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:16 PM, John Bennett  wrote:
> > > Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing).
>
> > > Just posted on YouTube.
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM
>
> > This is great! The kind of 'advertisement' that gets people to really
> > pay attention.
>
> > well done.
> > -sv
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Re: [RBW] Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread tarik saleh

Velogear publishes and sells many of the old timey images of the tour
de france posters:
http://www.velogear.com/products.asp?dept=171

I did not see the coppi ones there. Might try bianchiusa:
http://www.bianchiusa.com/store/collections/fausto-coppi.html
no obvious posters, but I did not look too closely.



Hmm...




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> Speaking of posters, but not of H posters, where can one buy posters of some
> of those old, famous photos of Coppi and Bartali (together or singly) in the
> mountains?
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Re: [RBW] Hiawatha poster

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:13 PM, nathan spindel  wrote:

> I don't know, but I would like to share this awesome related photo I
> recently found:
>
> Fédérico Ezquerra, 25 years old in 1934 Tour de France:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nationaalarchief/3675431792/sizes/o/
>
> -nathan
>
> Thatsa nice. The archetypical photos I have in mind are:

 http://www.ilquotidiano.it/userdata/immagini/foto/414/bartali_61530.jpg

and

http://pedalrevolutionblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/coppi.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:13 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

> G. says a 60mm Big Apple on the original pdf.  I don't know how that
> translates in knobbies though.  I'd want to run Nanoraptors.
>

With how much room, sides and top, does anyone know? 65s with fenders and
pebble clearance? Hell, I just committed to ~$600 to turn my sow's ear
Monocog 29er frameset into a silk purse with all the brazeons to be added,
plus larger rotor in front, new hs and new, nice, heavy duty rack in back,
plus new powdercoat.

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[RBW] SBC moose-style bar FS

2010-03-12 Thread b hamon

Cr-MO "Moose" style handlebar with 22.2 stem.
Good condition.
30.00 shipped in con us.
Pix here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4427912382/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4427144953/

Please reply off-list if interested.
Check or paypal ok.
Thanks --bh


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Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

Wonderful video -- wonder what the videographer was riding.

Get rid of that pansy der drivetrain, add a he-man ss drivetrain and
fenders, and you would have something very excellent.

I must visit the Walnut Creek area; it looks like wonderful riding,
combining everything from mud and singletrack to smoothish paved downhills.
(No character-testing sand, though.)

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[RBW] FS Rawland Sogn-large (change in price)

2010-03-12 Thread Joe Bartoe


Hi Everyone, 



I would like to sell the whole bike if I can, but if you'd like the frame or 
parts, we can talk about it.


 
I have a Large Rawland Canti Sogn for sale built as follows: 

 
Rawland Sogn Canti-Large Frame (Component Specs as follows):Cane Creek 
 Aheadset, Thomson Black Stem, On-One Mary Bar, Paul Love Brake Levers, 
 Paul Thumbies with 9 Speed Dura Ace Shifters, Paul Moto BMX brakes, 
 Phil Wood Stainless BB, Sugino XD Triple Crankset, Velocity Synergy 
 wheels (32H) laced to Shimano LX Hubs (Riv-Rich-built), Pacenti Neo-Moto 
Tires, Shimano 
 XT 9 speed Rear Derailleur, Campy Racing T Front Derailleur, Shimano 9 
 speed 12/32 cassette, Thomson Black setback seatpost, WTB Pure V 
 Saddle, and MKS Touring Pedals. 

 
The
only components that were not new when built were the Campy Racing T FD
and the MKS touring pedals. Even now, the bike has less than 100 miles
on it. I just don't use it as is and would like to get some money back
out of it. I would be willing to part it out if people would like to
make offers that are reasonable. Altogether, I have around $1900
invested here and I'd like to get $1200 for the built-up bike. I'll
listen to offers if they're not really off-base. 

 
I would
consider a partial trade for an Olaf if anyone has one they'd like to
swap. I will send pics to those seriously interested. Please don't ask
if you're not as I don't have time to send pics off to everyone. 

 
Thanks, 

 
Joe   
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Re: [RBW] FS: 47 cm Atlantis complete bike

2010-03-12 Thread James Dinneen

The Atlantis is a very different bike from the Roadeo. She might be glad to 
have it as an option. Replacing it would be a lot more expensive than keeping. 
Jim D   Massachusetts

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From: cyclotourist 
Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: 47 cm Atlantis complete bike
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 9:16 PM

No Debbie, don't do it!

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM, J. Douglas Way  wrote:

Hi-

Debbie's new Roadeo is about to arrive so we'd like to sell her 47 cm Atlantis. 
 This bike has about 4500 mostly road miles on it.  It was purchased new from 
Campus Cycles in Denver, CO in the fall of 2003.  The bike has a mountain bikey 
build with Shimano XT components and a Dura Ace 11-23 cassette.  The 
combination of the mountain crank (22-32-44 chainrings) and road cassette gives 
a gear ratio range of 23 to 98 gear inches.  The 26 inch (559 mm ISO) wheels 
have Mavic 517 rims, DT 14-15 butted spokes, and XT hubs.

Pictures on Flickr are here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25652...@n05/sets/72157623474638354/

or

http://tinyurl.com/y8k3dx8

We'd like $1600 for the complete bike including shipping to the lower 48 
WITHOUT the Brooks saddle and pedals.  If you really want the saddle and 
pedals, let's negotiate something.  If you pick up the bike, the price is $1500.

Let us know if you'd like more pictures and/or additional information about the 
bike.

Thanks,

Doug Way

in snowy Boulder, CO

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

On Mar 12, 11:57 am, Bruce  wrote:
> Then perhaps the other bags are equally good deals? Any duty to pay when 
> ordering from overseas?

yes, i'm sure there are equally good deals on the other bags noted. I
don't particularly like buying from overseas - but wiggle (and sjs)
both offer free shipping on orders around $75 or so.  no duty tax.

in addition to carradice bags, they also offer very good deals on
tubus racks, brooks saddles, schmidt/B&M lights, etc.

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[RBW] Re: Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Thanks for the plug, Dave, and thanks for buying the poster. We have a
few left, so if anybody wants one, let me know. See here:
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2010/02/hiawatha-cyclery-poster.html

On Mar 11, 10:30 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I received the new Hiawatha Cyclery poster and it's beautiful! Signed,
> numbered (35/55) and dated by the artist as well. It will be getting framed
> and hung very soon. Looks like something new to collect.
>
> Dave Minyard
> Santa Maria, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

2010-03-12 Thread carnerda...@bellsouth.net


George,
Not sure that was a fair test, as there are no alternative routes that 
would be more bike-friendly.  The only reasonable alternative would have 
been: "Get a boat."

David

GeorgeS wrote:

To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
GeorgeS

On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
  

Hi all,
Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
close to how I prefer. Check it out.

Dave Minyard
Santa Maria, Ca.



  


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[RBW] Re: Hiawatha poster

2010-03-12 Thread Leslie

Mine arrived today, 14/55.   It's wonderful!Once I get it framed,
I need to decide if it's going in my office at home, or at work.

-L


On Mar 12, 3:44 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> Thanks for the plug, Dave, and thanks for buying the poster. We have a
> few left, so if anybody wants one, let me know. See 
> here:http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2010/02/hiawatha-cyclery-poster.html
>
> On Mar 11, 10:30 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I received the new Hiawatha Cyclery poster and it's beautiful! Signed,
> > numbered (35/55) and dated by the artist as well. It will be getting framed
> > and hung very soon. Looks like something new to collect.
>
> > Dave Minyard
> > Santa Maria, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Nezovich

OK, now I really feel old. I remember them. They are cyclocross
shoes. Cleats were nailed onto the sole back then. TA made some
cleats with two big spikes just
rear of the slot for the back edge of your shoe. See similar shoes
and cleats at this link: http://bicyclespecialties.blogspot.com/2008/11/cyclo-cross.html

On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:28 PM, William wrote:

I'm probably not alone for having a little bit of nostalgia for high
quality cycling shoes that work well with toe clips and straps. I
still have my old Sidi Cycle Titaniums that I use at my vacation spot
in the plains with my vacation bike, a 1992 RB1. I pretty much keep
my eyes out constantly for a suitable Rando/Brevet/Touring shoe. Yes,
I have clipless pedals and fine shoes to use with them, but I don't
always want to run those.

As I'm sure many of you have seen, all the vintage shoes you'll find
are tiny. 37-40 is easy. 45 is hard. Imagine my surprise when I
found a NOS New In Box set of Detto Pietro full-leather cycling shoes
in a 45 on ebay. I had to have them, 'shopped victoriously' and got
them for a bit under $100. The box has the model name 'Cross' written
on it. I used Detto Saronni's in 1982, and these appear to precede
those in design and aesthetics. The full leather sole has a slotted
rubber tread on the toe. Too far forward to engage the hind cage of a
toeclip pedal, but I've managed to get it to grab reasonably well on
the front cage of a Suntour Sprint pedal.

I took them to the cobbler to get a heel put on to protect the sole
when I step. He was kind of an ornery English coot, and insisted the
rubber tread was aftermarket, and refused to work on them until after
I used them and was certain I liked them. I found that odd, but
left. Perhaps I'll go to another cobbler.

Anyway, I'm super excited about these shoes. Do any of you recognize
the model? Have a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4427398510/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4426642809/

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[RBW] Re: Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

Wow, Thomas.  Thanks very much for that link and the info.  Do you
have a ballpark guess at the age of these shoes?  I was thinking 1980
at the absolute latest.

On Mar 12, 2:03 pm, Thomas Nezovich  wrote:
> OK, now I really feel old.  I remember them.  They are cyclocross  
> shoes.  Cleats were nailed onto the sole back then.  TA made some  
> cleats with two big spikes just
> rear of the slot for the back edge of your shoe.  See  similar shoes  
> and cleats at this link:  
> http://bicyclespecialties.blogspot.com/2008/11/cyclo-cross.html
> On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:28 PM, William wrote:
>
> > I'm probably not alone for having a little bit of nostalgia for high
> > quality cycling shoes that work well with toe clips and straps.  I
> > still have my old Sidi Cycle Titaniums that I use at my vacation spot
> > in the plains with my vacation bike, a 1992 RB1.  I pretty much keep
> > my eyes out constantly for a suitable Rando/Brevet/Touring shoe.  Yes,
> > I have clipless pedals and fine shoes to use with them, but I don't
> > always want to run those.
>
> > As I'm sure many of you have seen, all the vintage shoes you'll find
> > are tiny.  37-40 is easy.  45 is hard.  Imagine my surprise when I
> > found a NOS New In Box set of Detto Pietro full-leather cycling shoes
> > in a 45 on ebay.  I had to have them, 'shopped victoriously' and got
> > them for a bit under $100.  The box has the model name 'Cross' written
> > on it.  I used Detto Saronni's in 1982, and these appear to precede
> > those in design and aesthetics.  The full leather sole has a slotted
> > rubber tread on the toe.  Too far forward to engage the hind cage of a
> > toeclip pedal, but I've managed to get it to grab reasonably well on
> > the front cage of a Suntour Sprint pedal.
>
> > I took them to the cobbler to get a heel put on to protect the sole
> > when I step.  He was kind of an ornery English coot, and insisted the
> > rubber tread was aftermarket, and refused to work on them until after
> > I used them and was certain I liked them.  I found that odd, but
> > left.  Perhaps I'll go to another cobbler.
>
> > Anyway, I'm super excited about these shoes.  Do any of you recognize
> > the model?  Have a look:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4427398510/
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4426642809/
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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar geometry?

Ha, we have opposite problems.  For me the top tube is too short on the
smaller sizes that have lower standovers.

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>
> Are the full specs available anywhere, particularly: theoretical TT
> length, ST angle, HT angle, and chain stay length?  What are the
> differences between the Hunqapillar and the the too-long-in-the-top-
> tube Bombadil?  I'm interested in the largest size.
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[RBW] ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180479994729

>From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
thought of these as really special bikes.

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[RBW] Re: Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

On Mar 12, 1:28 pm, William  wrote:

if you dig old school style, check out the vittoria 1976 (re-released
last year) - you could probably get these in a 45.  run 'em with
cleats or without.  sweet shoe.  available at swrve and other cool kid
shops.

http://www.swrvestore.com/servlet/Detail?no=106

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[RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread Jim M.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RIVENDELL-QUICKBEAM-60-cm-JAPAN-MADE-SINGLE-SPEED_W0QQitemZ160412669146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bikes?hash=item25595714da

Looks like a good price, so far.

I'm tempted, but 2 Orange QB's might be too many.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread Jim M.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RIVENDELL-QUICKBEAM-60-cm-JAPAN-MADE-SINGLE-SPEED_W0QQitemZ160412669146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bikes?hash=item25595714da

Looks like a good price, so far.

I'm tempted, but 2 Orange QB's might be too many.

jim m
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[RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

2010-03-12 Thread Marty

7 Rivendells on Ebay at one time! Must be Spring cleaning time. Ten
grand or so will allow you to "Buy 'em All", an option I'm kinda glad
they don't have.

On Mar 12, 5:41 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180479994729
>
> From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
> thought of these as really special bikes.
>
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Re: [RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

Saw that, too.  Tempted to get a 60cm as my 62 is just a touch too small.
Just swapping parts would be cool, then sell my 62...  H

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> Looks like a good price, so far.
>
> I'm tempted, but 2 Orange QB's might be too many.
>
> jim m
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Re: [RBW] bicycle photos

2010-03-12 Thread Rene Sterental

Great images!

Some very interesting and good photos.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

Yeah, good time to jump on a used one!

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Marty  wrote:

> 7 Rivendells on Ebay at one time! Must be Spring cleaning time. Ten
> grand or so will allow you to "Buy 'em All", an option I'm kinda glad
> they don't have.
>
> On Mar 12, 5:41 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
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> >
> > From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
> > thought of these as really special bikes.
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

2010-03-12 Thread andrew hill

here is a used one i just unboxed this morning:

http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1922.jpg

once i remove the other fender it'll be perfect, i think :)

cheers,
andrew

On Mar 12, 2010, at 3:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

> Yeah, good time to jump on a used one!
> 
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Marty  wrote:
> 7 Rivendells on Ebay at one time! Must be Spring cleaning time. Ten
> grand or so will allow you to "Buy 'em All", an option I'm kinda glad
> they don't have.
> 
> On Mar 12, 5:41 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180479994729
> >
> > From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
> > thought of these as really special bikes.
> >
> > --
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[RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

2010-03-12 Thread Marty

Nice Bleriot Andrew. Wonder why the previous owner used the safety
mounts on the rear fender, not the front? Agree fenderless will look
great in any case.

Marty

On Mar 12, 6:36 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
> here is a used one i just unboxed this morning:
>
> http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1922.jpg
>
> once i remove the other fender it'll be perfect, i think :)
>
> cheers,
> andrew
>
> On Mar 12, 2010, at 3:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah, good time to jump on a used one!
>
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Marty  wrote:
> > 7 Rivendells on Ebay at one time! Must be Spring cleaning time. Ten
> > grand or so will allow you to "Buy 'em All", an option I'm kinda glad
> > they don't have.
>
> > On Mar 12, 5:41 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180479994729
>
> > > From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
> > > thought of these as really special bikes.
>
> > > --
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> > > David
> > > Redlands, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

New Rivs for everyone!


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Marty  wrote:

> Nice Bleriot Andrew. Wonder why the previous owner used the safety
> mounts on the rear fender, not the front? Agree fenderless will look
> great in any case.
>
> Marty
>
> On Mar 12, 6:36 pm, andrew hill  wrote:
> > here is a used one i just unboxed this morning:
> >
> > http://salamander.net/stage/Bleriot/IMG_1922.jpg
> >
> > once i remove the other fender it'll be perfect, i think :)
> >
> > cheers,
> > andrew
> >
> > On Mar 12, 2010, at 3:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Yeah, good time to jump on a used one!
> >
> > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Marty  wrote:
> > > 7 Rivendells on Ebay at one time! Must be Spring cleaning time. Ten
> > > grand or so will allow you to "Buy 'em All", an option I'm kinda glad
> > > they don't have.
> >
> > > On Mar 12, 5:41 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180479994729
> >
> > > > From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
> > > > thought of these as really special bikes.
> >
> > > > --
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> > > > David
> > > > Redlands, CA
> >
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[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

Another shot of the Mighty Tour with rings on the Sugino site.  Looks
awesome:

http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/chainwheelset_MightytourPE110s_japan.htm

Velo Orange kind of opened the suggestion box and I suggested that
they consider bringing in the Mighty Tour.  Tom at VO said that they'd
have to sell it for $375 and had no interest in taking that kind of
risk.  Just as well I suppose, since they refuse to stock 172.5 unless
badgered incessantly.

On Mar 11, 6:33 am, No Brakes Atlanta  wrote:
>  My bet is that it's the new Sugino Mighty Tour, Merry(soma) from what
> I have seen has the intention of stocking them, so I bet Riv will get
> in on it. No prices that i've seen yet, but from the pictures I could
> see them retailing for 300.
>
> On Mar 10, 8:26 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>
> > I picked up a Sugino GX 53/39 on Ebay that is now on my Rambouillet. It was 
> > orig equip on the B'stone RB-1 and has a very tight Q. I think I paid about 
> > $39.95 for it with not much more than usual usage scratches from shoes on 
> > it. Not as pretty as the V-O, or the upcoming RBW to be sure, but if you 
> > like a light crank with low Q
>
> > 
> > From: rperks 
> > To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 5:54:47 PM
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset
>
> > I know not everybody loves low Q, but I dream of the day ritchey
> > cranks in the old style come back, and yes they show up on ebay for
> > the prices that it looks like RBW is asking, but the stess of bidding
> > can get to be a drag, that and the addictive compulsion to stockpile.

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[RBW] Re: Which bag?

2010-03-12 Thread Leslie

Anne,

I have a medium/large Acorn on my green Ram
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/

I've got tools and a couple of tubes, and plenty of more room.
Depends on how bulky the sweater is, or the jacket, but I might be
able to get one squeezed in there, not both; but could lash one or
both on top, and stick the food in the bag (how much food, too?).
The large bag might work better, but, on a Roadeo, I'd probably not
want to go much larger than the medium/large.

FWIW...

-L


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> Let's say, hypothetically mind you, that I was getting a Roadeo for my
> birthday. A hypothetical British racing green Roadeo, with a triple
> with nice low gears. Let's say I wanted to take that Roadeo on club
> rides, centuries and day rides. What would be the right bag to hold a
> sweater, a  Goretex jacket and some food? And some money and a tube
> and a few tools?
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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

900+ views in one day!?!?!  Rivendell has gone viral!!

On Mar 12, 12:01 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Wonderful video -- wonder what the videographer was riding.
>
> Get rid of that pansy der drivetrain, add a he-man ss drivetrain and
> fenders, and you would have something very excellent.
>
> I must visit the Walnut Creek area; it looks like wonderful riding,
> combining everything from mud and singletrack to smoothish paved downhills.
> (No character-testing sand, though.)

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[RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video

2010-03-12 Thread Marty

Nice write-up on the site now in the Bicycle Models section, and the
front page - even explains the name! Where were you riding in '76?
Rural Wisconsin for me - on whatever had air in the tires.

Marty (Admittedly, I was three of the 900)

On Mar 12, 7:49 pm, William  wrote:
> 900+ views in one day!?!?!  Rivendell has gone viral!!
>
> On Mar 12, 12:01 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wonderful video -- wonder what the videographer was riding.
>
> > Get rid of that pansy der drivetrain, add a he-man ss drivetrain and
> > fenders, and you would have something very excellent.
>
> > I must visit the Walnut Creek area; it looks like wonderful riding,
> > combining everything from mud and singletrack to smoothish paved downhills.
> > (No character-testing sand, though.)

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[RBW] Re: ebay outing: 62cm Legolas

2010-03-12 Thread Mojo

I have to say I am really enjoying my new (last fall) Legolas. It is a
Roadeo with wider tire tolerances, well and a higher BB and probably
other differences. But I believe it shares the light tube set. The
fork has the wonderful french bend that my Curt built custrom doesn't.
It has a spritely road feel. I highly recommend this frame. Wish I
would have waited for this price. Except I love my copper color.

On Mar 12, 3:41 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180479994729
>
> From Dublin Ireland, but shipping is pretty reasonable.   I've always
> thought of these as really special bikes.
>
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Re: [RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread Seth Vidal

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:30 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Saw that, too.  Tempted to get a 60cm as my 62 is just a touch too small.
> Just swapping parts would be cool, then sell my 62...  H
>


Your 62cm is too small so you'd get a 60cm?

maybe my math is off but 62 is still bigger than 60, right?

-sv

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[RBW] Dirty Hubs are Cool...was Hubshiners? UPDATE!

2010-03-12 Thread rob markwardt

I hope they sell a million of them, but you won't find one on my
bike.  Dirtyhubsage!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4428448306_ee0e5e312d.jpg

On Mar 12, 7:31 am, montana_cyclist  wrote:
> The ones I used in the 50s and 60s were narrow and allowed a lot of
> the shiny hub to show.
>
> On Mar 11, 4:15 pm, Ron MH  wrote:
>
>
>
> > So, help me understand these things. Why on earth would anyone use
> > them? I have no trouble understanding that they'd do a fine job of
> > shining your hubs (as if that really mattered). But, then again, in
> > use they hide the hub and thus you can't see the shine anyway. Do
> > people with hubshiners remove them for special occasions so they can
> > actually experience the blinding bling of their hubs or do they keep
> > the hub shiner on at all times like those people who cover their
> > furniture with clear vinyl so that the couch stays nice and clean?- Hide 
> > quoted text -
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Re: [RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread RM

I have two orange Quickbeams--one with noodles and one with albatrosses. I 
don't find two to be too many at all.

Rob


On Mar 12, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Jim M. wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/RIVENDELL-QUICKBEAM-60-cm-JAPAN-MADE-SINGLE-SPEED_W0QQitemZ160412669146QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bikes?hash=item25595714da
> 
> Looks like a good price, so far.
> 
> I'm tempted, but 2 Orange QB's might be too many.
> 
> jim m
> wc ca
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[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

2010-03-12 Thread MichaelH

I'm afraid I "missed" this announcement and don't see any new dbls on
the web site, although I've long wished Riv offered a good double and
a better triple.  I have this cospea, purchased from Jitensha
http://www.jitensha.com/eng/cospeacrnk_e.html.  Which is a similar to,
but understated compared to the Mity Tour.

Michael

On Mar 10, 2:19 pm, William  wrote:
> I was intrigued to see today's news describing a new double crankset.
> I'm a little surprised to see that it's going to be $300.  Not that
> they can't be worth it, but Velo Orange sells a $170 Sugino double
> that they claim has every possible upgrade and upcharge that Sugino
> knows how to make in a square taper double.  It's pretty 
> saucy:http://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html I wonder how Riv's will
> differ?

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[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-12 Thread Earl Grey

Thanks Rob. My next pair of fenders will probably be metal. I was just
curious why you liked them so much. I was under the impression that
they are more rattley, but perhaps leather washers solve that. Also, I
have never had composite fenders warp. Which brands have you had
warping problems with?

Two years ago, my parked bike, locked to a pole, was backed into be a
pickup truck. The rear rim broke (Mavic Open Pro), the rear composite
fender was fine.

I like my SKSs, but looking forward to some Honjos in my future.

G

On Mar 13, 2:25 am, rob markwardt  wrote:
> Like all posts on bike/component likes/dislikes I should have prefaced
> with  IMO, however, I'm a rain rider so I'm kind of picky.  I like
> metal because they are longer (yours do look like an improvement
> though), I think they are more secure (if installed correctly), less
> rattley (sp?...know what I mean?), they don't warp, and, most
> importantly..IMO...they look better!
>
> On Mar 12, 12:01 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 2:05 pm, rob markwardt  wrote:
>
> > > Those do look nice but, once you go metal you'll never go back.
>
> > I am not saying you are wrong, but why? Aesthetics, durability,...?
>
> > Gernot
>
> > > If  you are in Seattle I've got a used pair of black SKS's that I'd
> > > give away.
>
> > > On Mar 11, 7:15 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
> > > > > they look better than the normal sks fenders
>
> > > > > do you think you could take a shot of them down the length of the
> > > > > bike? Like from the back?
>
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > -sv
>
> > > > Like this?
>
> > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4425669203/in/photostream/
>
> > > > Let me know if you want other angles...- Hide quoted text -
>
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Re: [RBW] ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

Large.  62 is a touch too large... :-)

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:30 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > Saw that, too.  Tempted to get a 60cm as my 62 is just a touch too small.
> > Just swapping parts would be cool, then sell my 62...  H
> >
>
>
> Your 62cm is too small so you'd get a 60cm?
>
> maybe my math is off but 62 is still bigger than 60, right?
>
> -sv
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[RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

OK, who's the lucky winner of a stylin' set of gloves  At the six second
mark, too!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300403845413

Hope it was a lister!

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:04 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> Long-term listers may remember I used to have a 61cm Bleriot that I built
> up from a bare frame.   I eventually decided to sell it to finance a
> Rivendell custom I came across.  Luckily I was able to sell it to my best
> friend Rob.  That was a few years ago.  He isn't riding it like he hoped to,
> and is now selling it on ebay.  I asked him if it was ok to promote it on
> the list and he said sure!
>
> So here's the promotion:  I REALLY liked that bike a lot and still probably
> shouldn't have sold it.  I built it up from frame and fork with a VERY nice
> mix of NOS and current parts.  I even installed the Honjos 
> myself,using the 
> correct two bolt mounting technique.  He didn't want the upright
> Albatross bars and wide saddle, so I sold those separately to another list
> member.  You can read about most of the parts on the auction.
>
> Anyway, the bike was in great condition from when it left my garage, and
> has pretty much been hanging in his garage since then.  You can see the
> basic build I had here&
> here ,  and then how
> he changed it around a bit to suit his tastes:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/  In fact that photo
> which is from July of '08 is the last time he rode the bike!
>
> Here's the ebay link:  *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/
>
> He'd VERY much prefer to sell local and avoid boxing it up so will take $50
> of the price if someone can pick it up.  The touch up paint he mentioned is
> the correct matching NYC nail brand, #241 "Turquoise Seas" (I bought that,
> too!).
>
> Also, I'd like to extend this opportunity to you:  If a RBW lister buys it,
> I will include, at no extra charge, my slightly worn set of of *epic 
> *Rivendell
> gloves:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4123017215/  That's
> right, they're internet celebrities themselves, and can be yours if you act
> fast!
>
> So contact him on ebay for specific questions on his build, or ask me
> whatever you might about the original build up I did.
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: V-Brake lever question

Reptilian levers!

Those look like pretty fancy brakes.  What's the difference between the 3
and the 5?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Michael_S wrote:

> I thought it was a skink?  which is in the  lizard family but with
> different physical attributes than "true" lizards.
>
> and if you do choose v-brakes... the best design out there is the CC
> Direct Curve.
> I've alway felt though, that well adjusted cantilevers stop just as
> well and look much better than any v-brake.
>
> http://www.canecreek.com/component-other?product=direct-curve-5
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Mar 12, 6:37 am, Buck  wrote:
> > C'mon... L-I-Z-A-R-D-S!!! How can you put a price on lizards?
> > Priceless...
> >
> > Speaking of lizards and priceless... if you haven't seen it on
> > youtube... the Lego version of Eddie Izzard's Death Star Canteen
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw
> >
> > As for the finish, etc., the CC's are very nice and the overall
> > quality is excellent.
> >
> > On Mar 11, 10:33 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thanks for the lead!
> >
> > > Has anyone determined if there is a difference between CC and Tektros,
> other
> > > than finish and lizards?
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Buck  wrote:
> > > > I have the CC Drop V levers. I originally mounted Avid V Brakes
> (which
> > > > came off my Stumpjumper) on my Atlantis with Paselas, so I needed the
> > > > extra travel. I bought most of my parts from Harris Cyclery (and
> > > > possibly the levers... don't remember) since they are my local dealer
> > > > and THE nicest people. The levers are very nice, though not so nice
> > > > that I would spend $60 if they weren't specifically for V brakes. If
> > > > that makes sense. But I would have spent $40 and... I googled them
> and
> > > > they're available at a couple of places, for around $40. At
> > > > aebike.com, they're $42 and if you can find something else and get
> the
> > > > total to $75, shipping is free. Ironically, I later swapped out my
> > > > Avids for Paul cantis... so I don't need the extra travel, but the
> > > > CC's work fine with the cantis, too.
> >
> > > > On Mar 8, 10:36 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > > > > What are the down-sides to using a "regular" road lever
> (Tektro/Cane
> > > > Creek)
> > > > > with V- Brakes?
> >
> > > > > I'm starting to piece together a mtn. bike (frame TBD).  I'm
> starting
> > > > with
> > > > > what I have lying around and going from there...
> >
> > > > > Long shot request.  Anyone have a single front Dia Compe 287-V
> lying
> > > > around
> > > > > unused and lonely?  I need the long-pull "V" kind, not the regular
> 287
> > > > > model.  I have a right I'm not using, but the left is on our
> tandem.
> >
> > > > > FWIW, Cane Creek has a really nice looking updated version.  Pricey
> as
> > > > all
> > > > > get out though.<
> > > >
> http://harriscyclery.net/product/dia-compe-scr-5v-drop-levers-for-v-b...>
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: Super saucy old school cycling shoes found. Help me ID them?

2010-03-12 Thread Thomas Nezovich

Dettos were the first cleated shoes I knew of back then...I'd say as
early as mid to late 70's.

On Mar 12, 2010, at 5:15 PM, William wrote:

Wow, Thomas. Thanks very much for that link and the info. Do you
have a ballpark guess at the age of these shoes? I was thinking 1980
at the absolute latest.

On Mar 12, 2:03 pm, Thomas Nezovich wrote:

OK, now I really feel old. I remember them. They are cyclocross
shoes. Cleats were nailed onto the sole back then. TA made some
cleats with two big spikes just
rear of the slot for the back edge of your shoe. See similar shoes
and cleats at this link:
http://bicyclespecialties.blogspot.com/2008/11/cyclo-cross.html
On Mar 12, 2010, at 1:28 PM, William wrote:

in the plains with my vacation bike, a 1992 RB1. I pretty much keep
my eyes out constantly for a suitable Rando/Brevet/Touring shoe.
Yes,

I have clipless pedals and fine shoes to use with them, but I don't
always want to run those.

in a 45 on ebay. I had to have them, 'shopped victoriously' and got
them for a bit under $100. The box has the model name 'Cross'
written

on it. I used Detto Saronni's in 1982, and these appear to precede
those in design and aesthetics. The full leather sole has a slotted
rubber tread on the toe. Too far forward to engage the hind cage
of a

toeclip pedal, but I've managed to get it to grab reasonably well on
the front cage of a Suntour Sprint pedal.

I used them and was certain I liked them. I found that odd, but
left. Perhaps I'll go to another cobbler.

Anyway, I'm super excited about these shoes. Do any of you
recognize

the model? Have a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4427398510/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4426642809/

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[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-12 Thread rob markwardt

I've only tried the older SKS's and they developed a kind of funky
warped twist on the back.  I heard others say that metal fenders
rattle a lot but mine are rock solid.  Must be because somebody else
installed them!

On Mar 12, 5:58 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Thanks Rob. My next pair of fenders will probably be metal. I was just
> curious why you liked them so much. I was under the impression that
> they are more rattley, but perhaps leather washers solve that. Also, I
> have never had composite fenders warp. Which brands have you had
> warping problems with?
>
> Two years ago, my parked bike, locked to a pole, was backed into be a
> pickup truck. The rear rim broke (Mavic Open Pro), the rear composite
> fender was fine.
>
> I like my SKSs, but looking forward to some Honjos in my future.
>
> G
>
> On Mar 13, 2:25 am, rob markwardt  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Like all posts on bike/component likes/dislikes I should have prefaced
> > with  IMO, however, I'm a rain rider so I'm kind of picky.  I like
> > metal because they are longer (yours do look like an improvement
> > though), I think they are more secure (if installed correctly), less
> > rattley (sp?...know what I mean?), they don't warp, and, most
> > importantly..IMO...they look better!
>
> > On Mar 12, 12:01 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 12, 2:05 pm, rob markwardt  wrote:
>
> > > > Those do look nice but, once you go metal you'll never go back.
>
> > > I am not saying you are wrong, but why? Aesthetics, durability,...?
>
> > > Gernot
>
> > > > If  you are in Seattle I've got a used pair of black SKS's that I'd
> > > > give away.
>
> > > > On Mar 11, 7:15 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
> > > > > > they look better than the normal sks fenders
>
> > > > > > do you think you could take a shot of them down the length of the
> > > > > > bike? Like from the back?
>
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > -sv
>
> > > > > Like this?
>
> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4425669203/in/photostream/
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

T

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Earl Grey  wrote:

> I was under the impression that they are more rattley, but perhaps leather
> washers solve that.

I've used Honjos, VOs and Berthouds, and found that they rattle less because
they flex less, regardless of leather washers (which, I understand, you use
to allow a bit of flex between fender and frame and thus prevent cracking).
(The front VO 45 on the Motobecane rattles only because I used pop rivets to
hold on the L bracket on instead of tight, loctited screws.) SKSes seem to
be far less rattly than Zefals (ugh!) or PBs.

> Also, I have never had composite fenders warp. Which brands have you had
> warping problems with?
>

I've left my bike in the back of my car, resting on the SKS fender, and had
it warp, not permanently but for a few days until, released, it relaxed. I
daresay that the SKSes are actually stronger than some of the metals, since
they will -- as your experience shows -- bounce back, but in seven or eight
years of using metals, I've had no breakage or undue damage despite somewhat
careless treatment.

>

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[RBW] Re: ebay outing: 60cm Quickbeam

2010-03-12 Thread Angus

Size matters...

On Mar 12, 8:04 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Large.  62 is a touch too large... :-)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:30 PM, cyclotourist 
> > wrote:
> > > Saw that, too.  Tempted to get a 60cm as my 62 is just a touch too small.
> > > Just swapping parts would be cool, then sell my 62...  H
>
> > Your 62cm is too small so you'd get a 60cm?
>
> > maybe my math is off but 62 is still bigger than 60, right?
>
> > -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

> Here's the ebay link:  *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/
>>
>>
Aaaoww, lookit those bars! Damn!

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[RBW] Re: Dirty Hubs are Cool...was Hubshiners? UPDATE!

2010-03-12 Thread Angus

I can feel a new flickr group brewing "Rivendell hub shiners"

and no I'm NOT going to start it.

Angus

On Mar 12, 7:11 pm, rob markwardt  wrote:
> I hope they sell a million of them, but you won't find one on my
> bike.  Dirtyhubsage!
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4428448306_ee0e5e312d.jpg
>
> On Mar 12, 7:31 am, montana_cyclist  wrote:
>
> > The ones I used in the 50s and 60s were narrow and allowed a lot of
> > the shiny hub to show.
>
> > On Mar 11, 4:15 pm, Ron MH  wrote:
>
> > > So, help me understand these things. Why on earth would anyone use
> > > them? I have no trouble understanding that they'd do a fine job of
> > > shining your hubs (as if that really mattered). But, then again, in
> > > use they hide the hub and thus you can't see the shine anyway. Do
> > > people with hubshiners remove them for special occasions so they can
> > > actually experience the blinding bling of their hubs or do they keep
> > > the hub shiner on at all times like those people who cover their
> > > furniture with clear vinyl so that the couch stays nice and clean?- Hide 
> > > quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

It could have been yours...


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

>
> Here's the ebay link:  *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/
>>>
>>>
> Aaaoww, lookit those bars! Damn!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:34 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

> It could have been yours...
>

A tad too big; otherwise, sure, I would have been interested. BUT I would
have lowered the bars a bit, just a little bit (like 4 inches).

>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>
>>
>> Here's the ebay link:  *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/


>> Aaaoww, lookit those bars! Damn!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bleriot for sale - not mine, but kind of

Yeah, he had 'em up there a bit... :-)

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:51 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:34 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> It could have been yours...
>>
>
> A tad too big; otherwise, sure, I would have been interested. BUT I would
> have lowered the bars a bit, just a little bit (like 4 inches).
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:19 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Here's the ebay link:  *http://tinyurl.com/ycg9d4c* or
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2654164069/
>
>
>>> Aaaoww, lookit those bars! Damn!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: SKS/Berthoud fender review

2010-03-12 Thread Earl Grey

Since you tried all 3 main brands, can you tell me if you have any
preferences? Are the Honjos worth it? I love some VO products (the
seatpost), but others just seem cheaply made out of inferior materials
(i.e the bags), in which case I'd rather spend double or triple and
get something really nice and durable.

Gernot


On Mar 13, 10:10 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> T
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Earl Grey  wrote:
> > I was under the impression that they are more rattley, but perhaps leather
> > washers solve that.
>
> I've used Honjos, VOs and Berthouds, and found that they rattle less because
> they flex less, regardless of leather washers (which, I understand, you use
> to allow a bit of flex between fender and frame and thus prevent cracking).
> (The front VO 45 on the Motobecane rattles only because I used pop rivets to
> hold on the L bracket on instead of tight, loctited screws.) SKSes seem to
> be far less rattly than Zefals (ugh!) or PBs.
>
> > Also, I have never had composite fenders warp. Which brands have you had
> > warping problems with?
>
> I've left my bike in the back of my car, resting on the SKS fender, and had
> it warp, not permanently but for a few days until, released, it relaxed. I
> daresay that the SKSes are actually stronger than some of the metals, since
> they will -- as your experience shows -- bounce back, but in seven or eight
> years of using metals, I've had no breakage or undue damage despite somewhat
> careless treatment.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset