[RBW] FS First Generation Sackville Saddlesack & Handlebar Bag

[nawrock]

Great Bags that dont get used enough.  Bought from Riv when only a few were 
left. 

More description on pix. 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_nawrocki/sets/72157622945823558/ 

Paypal preffered or postal money order. 

I pay shipping to lower 48. 

Please respond off list. 



Thanks, 

Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[JoelMatthews]

You may be out of luck for the time being.  J-tek was a one person
shop.  The designer maker has cancer and is undergoing intensive
treatment.  As one might expect, he and his loved ones have a lot more
on their minds right now than making new shifters.

It does lead me to wonder at times with all the people unemployed
these days why unique and in demand products such as those made by
Jtek and Zugster bags cannot find a way to get additional people
making product for them.  Seems maybe there are not enough people with
the skills out there.  Or maybe most people with the skills would
rather take a job selling or supporting someone else's product so they
can have employer insurance.

On Dec 3, 3:38 pm, Alex  wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Do you know where i can find an 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter?  It
> appears Jtek stopped making them.  I ask because i want to put a
> Shimano Alfine internally geared 8-speed hub on my Rambouillet.
>
> Alex

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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[David Hallerman]

That was true until recently. But in fact, one of Jay Guthrie's loved 
ones, his son Ryan, is now running the business.

http://www.jtekengineering.com/

At this point, they're only selling the ShiftMate. But the website says 
"Other products will be added again in time."

So I'd give Ryan a call, to see the status of the bar-end shifter. 
Perhaps they have one around to sell?

Dave, who relies on the ShiftMate to build up bikes that work best for 
his needs and desires

==

JoelMatthews wrote:
> You may be out of luck for the time being.  J-tek was a one person
> shop.  The designer maker has cancer and is undergoing intensive
> treatment.  As one might expect, he and his loved ones have a lot more
> on their minds right now than making new shifters.
>
> It does lead me to wonder at times with all the people unemployed
> these days why unique and in demand products such as those made by
> Jtek and Zugster bags cannot find a way to get additional people
> making product for them.  Seems maybe there are not enough people with
> the skills out there.  Or maybe most people with the skills would
> rather take a job selling or supporting someone else's product so they
> can have employer insurance.
>
> On Dec 3, 3:38 pm, Alex  wrote:
>   
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Do you know where i can find an 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter?  It
>> appears Jtek stopped making them.  I ask because i want to put a
>> Shimano Alfine internally geared 8-speed hub on my Rambouillet.
>>
>> Alex
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Silver shifter problem

[Mike]

That does make perfect sense to grease the heads. I'll have to check
both soon. Good thing I'll be putting new cables on the Hilsen soon.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Silver shifter problem

[All Rounder 2000]

I began using Silvers when they first came out, & have used several
sets different bikes. I love them, but there is a consistent problem:
cable heads are too large to fit in the shifters. (I reported this
problem to Riv from the start, btw.)
To get around this problem, I file the sides of the cable "head", to
make it slightly smaller. Then the cables install and uninstall with
ease.
I have not used grease.

On Dec 5, 3:39 pm, stevep33  wrote:
> Has anyone had trouble removing a derailleur cable from a Silver
> downtube shift lever?  I was changing my cables today and found that
> the head of the cable is stuck in the shift lever hole.  I tried

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[R Gonet]

Is it possible to use a Shimano or Silver bar end shifter in friction
mode?  I'm guessing the answer is no, otherwise there would have been
no need for the Jtek.  However, I don't know why they wouldn't work.

On Dec 3, 4:38 pm, Alex  wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Do you know where i can find an 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter?  It
> appears Jtek stopped making them.  I ask because i want to put a
> Shimano Alfine internally geared 8-speed hub on my Rambouillet.
>
> Alex

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RE: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Sarah Gibson]

ok this is only my experience
but at acme
we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
(btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
for use with internally geared hubs
with little success of quality shifting
thats why jay created the jtek barend shifter
have installed numerous ones on shimano 8 speed internal hubs with excellent 
results.
im sorry to hear he's no longer producing them
theres a huge market
in kansas city area anyways
for barend style shifting
or anything remotely "road" oriented for internal hubs
at the handmade bicycle show in indianapolis in feb
we discussed this at length with the shimano guys
and they indicated that shimano was indeed researching that as an option for 
shifting
tho ive not heard anything else about it since...
nevertheless
anyone who makes an internally geared hub should
in my opinion
make a quality shifter that can be used on road style bars
be they drop or moustache etc
peace



well behaved women rarely make history
_ride yr friggin bicycle_
 




> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:00:10 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter
> From: richard.go...@earthlink.net
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> Is it possible to use a Shimano or Silver bar end shifter in friction
> mode?  I'm guessing the answer is no, otherwise there would have been
> no need for the Jtek.  However, I don't know why they wouldn't work.
> 
> On Dec 3, 4:38 pm, Alex  wrote:
> > Hi all:
> >
> > Do you know where i can find an 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter?  It
> > appears Jtek stopped making them.  I ask because i want to put a
> > Shimano Alfine internally geared 8-speed hub on my Rambouillet.
> >
> > Alex
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Bombadil frame is at RBW!!!

[Steve Ardrey]

Rene,
I was at Rivendell on friday.  I couldnt help but notice your frame hanging in 
the show room.
I really like the color.  It is looks black until it is in the light then you 
can see the green.   This will be fine looking machine when it gets built.  I 
am jealous!
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--- On Sat, 12/5/09, Rene Sterental  wrote:


From: Rene Sterental 
Subject: [RBW] Re: My Bombadil frame is at RBW!!!
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 11:47 AM


After a long internal debate, I went with the darkest green I could
find in Keven's color catalogs. Almost black, with the cream accents.
I can't wait to see how it turned out...

René

On 12/5/09, newenglandbike  wrote:
> Sweet!   What colors did you go with for the paint?
>
> As for a headset, I have a Tange Levin on mine, and it works great-
> I've done some bumpy riding with it in the heavily rooted woods around
> here, in addition to a regular 40-mile round trip commute on
> marginally decent roads, and it remains as smooth as ever.   Yes, it's
> only 20 bucks, but don't let the price fool you- it's a really good
> headset.
>
> Can't wait to see your new Bombadil built-up.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 5, 12:18 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
>> Keven e-mailed me yesterday to let me know that my Bombadil frame has
>> arrived and is waiting for me. His words were that it looked
>> "incredible"...
>> I can hardly wait to see how the paint scheme turned out.
>>
>> I'll be picking it up on Monday afternoon, but the new Cane Creek headset
>> that Mark had suggested hasn't arrived yet, and it won't for another week
>> or
>> two. My options are to wait, choose a DuraAce headset (same as I have on
>> the
>> Homer) or choose a Chris King headset. The standard Tange is also an
>> option.
>>
>> Any suggestions on the headset?
>>
>> I'll be posting photos when I pick it up and build it!
>>
>> René
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[RBW] Re: Bay Area Fixedgear ride, Dec. 5 Sat.

[RonLau]

Thank you all for coming out yesterday.

It was a little cold, just the right climate for fixed, IMHO.

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Patrick in VT]

On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> ok this is only my experience
> but at acme
> we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> for use with internally geared hubs
> with little success of quality shifting

using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
while - it actually works great.  i know a fella who's been running
this set-up for about 3 years with no problems.

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[R Gonet]

Thanks for the info.  Shimano already makes a trigger shifter for the
Nexus and perhaps they don't see a much larger market for the bar end
shifter.  If you want to use the Nexus you'll probably do so with the
shifter they already provide, even if you'd rather use a bar end
shifter.  Let's hope that Shimano doesn't think like this, however.

On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> ok this is only my experience
> but at acme
> we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> for use with internally geared hubs
> with little success of quality shifting
> thats why jay created the jtek barend shifter
> have installed numerous ones on shimano 8 speed internal hubs with excellent 
> results.
> im sorry to hear he's no longer producing them
> theres a huge market
> in kansas city area anyways
> for barend style shifting
> or anything remotely "road" oriented for internal hubs
> at the handmade bicycle show in indianapolis in feb
> we discussed this at length with the shimano guys
> and they indicated that shimano was indeed researching that as an option for 
> shifting
> tho ive not heard anything else about it since...
> nevertheless
> anyone who makes an internally geared hub should
> in my opinion
> make a quality shifter that can be used on road style bars
> be they drop or moustache etc
> peace
>
> well behaved women rarely make history
> _ride yr friggin bicycle_
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:00:10 -0800
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter
> > From: richard.go...@earthlink.net
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > Is it possible to use a Shimano or Silver bar end shifter in friction
> > mode?  I'm guessing the answer is no, otherwise there would have been
> > no need for the Jtek.  However, I don't know why they wouldn't work.
>
> > On Dec 3, 4:38 pm, Alex  wrote:
> > > Hi all:
>
> > > Do you know where i can find an 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter?  It
> > > appears Jtek stopped making them.  I ask because i want to put a
> > > Shimano Alfine internally geared 8-speed hub on my Rambouillet.
>
> > > Alex
>
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RE: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Sarah Gibson]

travel agent? duh!

why didnt i think bout that

thanks fer the info

will have to hunker down in the shop this week and try it

tho i really do hope that shimano takes notice that 

there is indeed a market for a "quality" road style shifter

the trigger and grip shift style ar whole inadequate quality-wise

for anything but entry level city sorta bikes

not necessarily how they work perse

but asthetically

and thats important to me i have to say

peace



well behaved women rarely make history
_ride yr friggin bicycle_
 



 
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:25:18 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter
> From: psh...@drm.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> > ok this is only my experience
> > but at acme
> > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> > (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> > for use with internally geared hubs
> > with little success of quality shifting
> 
> using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
> while - it actually works great. i know a fella who's been running
> this set-up for about 3 years with no problems.
> 
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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[JoelMatthews]

Yes.  T'would be nice if Shimano and Sram and Rohloff for that matter
would get to work on producing levers for their IGHs.  Strumey-Archer
will offer a down tube shifter for its forthcoming fixed 3 - speed
hub.  Maybe that will start something.

Curtis Inglis is trying to modify a J-Tek for use as a down tube
shifter on my forth coming Alfine equipped Retrotec.  Hope it works
out, as for now, it does not appear he will be able to get another.

On Dec 6, 11:56 am, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> travel agent? duh!
>
> why didnt i think bout that
>
> thanks fer the info
>
> will have to hunker down in the shop this week and try it
>
> tho i really do hope that shimano takes notice that
>
> there is indeed a market for a "quality" road style shifter
>
> the trigger and grip shift style ar whole inadequate quality-wise
>
> for anything but entry level city sorta bikes
>
> not necessarily how they work perse
>
> but asthetically
>
> and thats important to me i have to say
>
> peace
>
> well behaved women rarely make history
> _ride yr friggin bicycle_
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:25:18 -0800
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter
> > From: psh...@drm.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> > > ok this is only my experience
> > > but at acme
> > > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> > > (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> > > for use with internally geared hubs
> > > with little success of quality shifting
>
> > using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
> > while - it actually works great. i know a fella who's been running
> > this set-up for about 3 years with no problems.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Bombadil frame is at RBW!!!

[Rene Sterental]

Wow! That is exactly the look I wanted to create. A frame that looked black
until the light shone on it! I can't wait to get there tomorrow afternoon...
it's going to be a torturing morning at work... :-D

I'll call them in the morning to have them install the Chris King headset.

Thanks for your comment! I'm smiling ear to ear now!!!

René

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Steve Ardrey  wrote:

> Rene,
> I was at Rivendell on friday.  I couldnt help but notice your frame hanging
> in the show room.
> I really like the color.  It is looks black until it is in the light then
> you can see the green.   This will be fine looking machine when it gets
> built.  I am jealous!
> -- sacyclepath --
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>
>
> --- On *Sat, 12/5/09, Rene Sterental * wrote:
>
>
> From: Rene Sterental 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: My Bombadil frame is at RBW!!!
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 11:47 AM
>
> After a long internal debate, I went with the darkest green I could
> find in Keven's color catalogs. Almost black, with the cream accents.
> I can't wait to see how it turned out...
>
> René
>
> On 12/5/09, newenglandbike 
> http://us.mc322.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=matthiasbe...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Sweet!   What colors did you go with for the paint?
> >
> > As for a headset, I have a Tange Levin on mine, and it works great-
> > I've done some bumpy riding with it in the heavily rooted woods around
> > here, in addition to a regular 40-mile round trip commute on
> > marginally decent roads, and it remains as smooth as ever.   Yes, it's
> > only 20 bucks, but don't let the price fool you- it's a really good
> > headset.
> >
> > Can't wait to see your new Bombadil built-up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 5, 12:18 pm, Rene Sterental 
> > http://us.mc322.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=orthie...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> Keven e-mailed me yesterday to let me know that my Bombadil frame has
> >> arrived and is waiting for me. His words were that it looked
> >> "incredible"...
> >> I can hardly wait to see how the paint scheme turned out.
> >>
> >> I'll be picking it up on Monday afternoon, but the new Cane Creek
> headset
> >> that Mark had suggested hasn't arrived yet, and it won't for another
> week
> >> or
> >> two. My options are to wait, choose a DuraAce headset (same as I have on
> >> the
> >> Homer) or choose a Chris King headset. The standard Tange is also an
> >> option.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions on the headset?
> >>
> >> I'll be posting photos when I pick it up and build it!
> >>
> >> René
> >
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[RBW] Re: New Bombadil group on flickr

[Dave Craig]

I've finally created a flickr account. Posted a few Bombadil photos to
the new group. Thanks, your post was a good motivation. I'm new to
this photo posting bit. Let me know if I've posted too many on the
group and I'll remove some.

On Dec 5, 11:49 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just wanted to bring to yall's attention a new flickr group
> dedicated to the Bombadil.    So far I am its only member, but
> hopefully it will grow fast.    I know there is already a terrific
> group dedicated to RBW, but I figured the Bombadil is a really unique
> and special bike, even among Rivendells, and that it might warrant
> having its own flickr group.
>
> There are already quite a few Bombadil owners who have shared
> images of their rig on flickr, and they've all been invited to join
> (or at least, I hope they have-  if you're on there and you haven't,
> you are hereby invited to join).
>
> If there are any more owners lurking here, who have not yet snapped a
> photo, or uploaded images of their Bombadil to flickr, please do :)
> I'm hoping it will be a great way to showcase the versatility and
> configurability of this great bike.
>
> The group URL is here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/bombadil/
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bay Area Fixedgear ride, Dec. 5 Sat.

[CycloFiend]

on 12/6/09 9:25 AM, RonLau at ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

> Thank you all for coming out yesterday.
> 
> It was a little cold, just the right climate for fixed, IMHO.

Thanks for setting up the ride, Ron!

Couple o' Quickbeams representing, and if not-me-Jim brings his next time,
we'll be able to have an Entmoot.

Photos here - 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157622945173320/

Writeup should follow, but the Hilsen is jealous so I'm taking it out into
the sunny, breezy morning right now.  (And my danged blog is still
problematic, thanks to the my curiously specific Netgear router glitch...)

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

"using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
while - it actually works great."

It does not, in fact, work great, but some may find it adequate. We
set one up awhile back, and it shifted, but the shifts were not exact.
It could be tweaked to shift better at one end or the other of the
gear range, but there was always some compromise. Friction-mode
"seemed" fine, but I have no idea how it would work in the long run.
At minimum, I suspect it voids the hub warranty. Jay at Jtek explained
to me that Alfine/Nexus shift stops are not uniformly spaced, while
standard indexed bar-end shifter have uniform cable pull from one gear
to the next (regardless of whether you use a travel agent). At best,
the travel agent set-up hits the gear more or less correctly "on
average".  Anyway, I concluded that it was a fun experiment, but that
I would never sell this set-up/kludge to a customer.

(BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these heavy/draggy/
hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which will
require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have worked
on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand the
appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern
derailleurs?)

On Dec 6, 11:25 am, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
>
> > ok this is only my experience
> > but at acme
> > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> > (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> > for use with internally geared hubs
> > with little success of quality shifting
>
> using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
> while - it actually works great.  i know a fella who's been running
> this set-up for about 3 years with no problems.

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[RBW] Re: New Bombadil group on flickr

[newenglandbike]

Thanks Dave, those are awesome!   That's a sweet set-up you've got
there.As far as quantity goes, post 'em all!   Looks like Jim's
Bombadil page on cyclofiend.com needs more bikes too there's some
really good info on there as well.



On Dec 6, 1:14 pm, Dave Craig  wrote:
> I've finally created a flickr account. Posted a few Bombadil photos to
> the new group. Thanks, your post was a good motivation. I'm new to
> this photo posting bit. Let me know if I've posted too many on the
> group and I'll remove some.
>
> On Dec 5, 11:49 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > I just wanted to bring to yall's attention a new flickr group
> > dedicated to the Bombadil.    So far I am its only member, but
> > hopefully it will grow fast.    I know there is already a terrific
> > group dedicated to RBW, but I figured the Bombadil is a really unique
> > and special bike, even among Rivendells, and that it might warrant
> > having its own flickr group.
>
> > There are already quite a few Bombadil owners who have shared
> > images of their rig on flickr, and they've all been invited to join
> > (or at least, I hope they have-  if you're on there and you haven't,
> > you are hereby invited to join).
>
> > If there are any more owners lurking here, who have not yet snapped a
> > photo, or uploaded images of their Bombadil to flickr, please do :)
> > I'm hoping it will be a great way to showcase the versatility and
> > configurability of this great bike.
>
> > The group URL is here:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/groups/bombadil/
>
> > Thank you,
>
> > Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[cyclotourist]

That sounds like a nice set up, Joel!  Have you seen the Singular Peregrine
with an Alfine?  A guy's got one on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?ss=1&w=all&q=singular+alfine+peregrine&m=text



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM, JoelMatthews  wrote:

> Yes.  T'would be nice if Shimano and Sram and Rohloff for that matter
> would get to work on producing levers for their IGHs.  Strumey-Archer
> will offer a down tube shifter for its forthcoming fixed 3 - speed
> hub.  Maybe that will start something.
>
> Curtis Inglis is trying to modify a J-Tek for use as a down tube
> shifter on my forth coming Alfine equipped Retrotec.  Hope it works
> out, as for now, it does not appear he will be able to get another.
>
> On Dec 6, 11:56 am, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> > travel agent? duh!
> >
> > why didnt i think bout that
> >
> > thanks fer the info
> >
> > will have to hunker down in the shop this week and try it
> >
> > tho i really do hope that shimano takes notice that
> >
> > there is indeed a market for a "quality" road style shifter
> >
> > the trigger and grip shift style ar whole inadequate quality-wise
> >
> > for anything but entry level city sorta bikes
> >
> > not necessarily how they work perse
> >
> > but asthetically
> >
> > and thats important to me i have to say
> >
> > peace
> >
> > well behaved women rarely make history
> > _ride yr friggin bicycle_
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:25:18 -0800
> > > Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter
> > > From: psh...@drm.com
> > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> >
> > > On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> > > > ok this is only my experience
> > > > but at acme
> > > > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> > > > (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> > > > for use with internally geared hubs
> > > > with little success of quality shifting
> >
> > > using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
> > > while - it actually works great. i know a fella who's been running
> > > this set-up for about 3 years with no problems.
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[cyclotourist]

I think using one in wet & mucky conditions would be a pretty good set up.
I wouldn't want one as I'm always changing flats due to thorns/debris and
don't want to mess w/ an IGH.  Also, IGHs seem like a cool deal for kids who
are learning to shift and/or someone learning or re-learning to ride.
Simplicity is nice!


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these heavy/draggy/
> hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which will
> require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have worked
> on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand the
> appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern
> derailleurs?)
>
> On Dec 6, 11:25 am, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> >
> > > ok this is only my experience
> > > but at acme
> > > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> > > (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> > > for use with internally geared hubs
> > > with little success of quality shifting
> >
> > using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
> > while - it actually works great.  i know a fella who's been running
> > this set-up for about 3 years with no problems.
>
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[RBW] Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[cyclotourist]

Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
Full story is here:
http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fixed.html

Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way around one of
these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.  Directions via the
internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up having to
send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I don't know who
is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the fact it's a
SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here in the
States (or so I've read).

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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Steve Palincsar]

On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 12:02 -0800, cyclotourist wrote:
> I think using one in wet & mucky conditions would be a pretty good set
> up.  I wouldn't want one as I'm always changing flats due to
> thorns/debris and don't want to mess w/ an IGH.  Also, IGHs seem like
> a cool deal for kids who are learning to shift and/or someone learning
> or re-learning to ride.  Simplicity is nice!

Other than needing to keep pedalling while the shift completes, what's
any more difficult about derailleur shifting than IG hub shifting?  I
find brifter action confusing - but then, I seem to be the only one who
does, and I find twist grip shifters confusing, too.  Triggers, bar ends
and down tube shifters all make perfect sense.

And when it comes to "simplicity" the only thing "simple" about an
internal geared hub is that it's all hidden inside the hub shell.  It's
far more complex mechanically than a derailleur drive train, it's just
that you can't see it.

And when it comes to removing a wheel, either to transport the bike or
to fix a flat, derailleur wins hands down.  There are no complicated
linkages to remove, and you have quick releases to allow for tool-free
opening.

Maintenance?  Removing the chain's no more difficult with one or the
other, although obviously tensioning the chain correctly is harder with
an internal geared hub than a derailleur, especially if you have
vertical dropouts.  Can cleaning a derailleur be all that hard?

I'd say the bottom line is, IG hubs have one advantage: you can shift
without moving the cranks.

> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these
> heavy/draggy/
> hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which
> will
> require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have
> worked
> on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand
> the
> appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern
> derailleurs?)




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[RBW] Re: Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

It is a strange hub to set up. The documentation thar shows the
correct shift adjustment is incorrect. SRAM has an office in Chicago
and their tech guys have always been helpful ime.

On Dec 6, 2:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
> Full story is 
> here:http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fix...
>
> Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way around one of
> these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.  Directions via the
> internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up having to
> send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I don't know who
> is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the fact it's a
> SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here in the
> States (or so I've read).
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[cyclotourist]

Simplicity as in one shifter to cover a wide-range of gear ratios.  A 1X9
system would work just as well, but I've observed newbies/kids don't get the
whole two-shifters thing.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 12:02 -0800, cyclotourist wrote:
> > I think using one in wet & mucky conditions would be a pretty good set
> > up.  I wouldn't want one as I'm always changing flats due to
> > thorns/debris and don't want to mess w/ an IGH.  Also, IGHs seem like
> > a cool deal for kids who are learning to shift and/or someone learning
> > or re-learning to ride.  Simplicity is nice!
>
> Other than needing to keep pedalling while the shift completes, what's
> any more difficult about derailleur shifting than IG hub shifting?  I
> find brifter action confusing - but then, I seem to be the only one who
> does, and I find twist grip shifters confusing, too.  Triggers, bar ends
> and down tube shifters all make perfect sense.
>
> And when it comes to "simplicity" the only thing "simple" about an
> internal geared hub is that it's all hidden inside the hub shell.  It's
> far more complex mechanically than a derailleur drive train, it's just
> that you can't see it.
>
> And when it comes to removing a wheel, either to transport the bike or
> to fix a flat, derailleur wins hands down.  There are no complicated
> linkages to remove, and you have quick releases to allow for tool-free
> opening.
>
> Maintenance?  Removing the chain's no more difficult with one or the
> other, although obviously tensioning the chain correctly is harder with
> an internal geared hub than a derailleur, especially if you have
> vertical dropouts.  Can cleaning a derailleur be all that hard?
>
> I'd say the bottom line is, IG hubs have one advantage: you can shift
> without moving the cranks.
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these
> > heavy/draggy/
> > hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which
> > will
> > require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have
> > worked
> > on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand
> > the
> > appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern
> > derailleurs?)
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[cyclotourist]

http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/Ins_sram_P5_8_2005.pdf

I'm missing parts 2-6 it looks like, and part 1 is bent all crazy like (and
doesn't come out!).

You have a contact for tech support there?  Their contact page doesn't have
email and only lists the folks with the high pay scales...
http://www.sram.com/contact



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is a strange hub to set up. The documentation thar shows the
> correct shift adjustment is incorrect. SRAM has an office in Chicago
> and their tech guys have always been helpful ime.
>
> On Dec 6, 2:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
> > Full story is here:
> http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fix...
> >
> > Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way around one
> of
> > these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.  Directions via
> the
> > internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up having
> to
> > send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I don't know
> who
> > is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the fact it's a
> > SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here in the
> > States (or so I've read).
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > David
> > Redlands, CA
> >
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[RBW] Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[Dan Abelson]

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/1497663434.html

I saw this Romulus for sale on Minneapolis craigslist. It seems a bit
suspicious considering the low price and the fact the seller does not even
seem to know the size or based on his post much about bikes at all.  I am
wondering if this bike is stolen.


Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Well put, Steve. I agree.

Another big drawback with IGHs, in my experience, is that folks treat
them as if they don't require maintenance, and believe that the hubs
are somehow "sealed". They are not so much sealed as shielded - the
nasty gunk gets in, and stays in, out of sight, out of mind.. This
fall we have replaced or should have replaced the rusted solid innards
of probably half a dozen fairly new IGHs. Right now manufacturers
treat this as a warranty issue, but as these things get more popular,
and the neglect-based issues become common, it's going to start
costing real money to fix these "low maintenance" drivetrains.

Incidentally, I now have been told, directly or indirectly, by tech
support people at two IGH manufacturers, that these hubs are designed
for "cruisers and other low torque applications".

On Dec 6, 2:16 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 12:02 -0800, cyclotourist wrote:
> > I think using one in wet & mucky conditions would be a pretty good set
> > up.  I wouldn't want one as I'm always changing flats due to
> > thorns/debris and don't want to mess w/ an IGH.  Also, IGHs seem like
> > a cool deal for kids who are learning to shift and/or someone learning
> > or re-learning to ride.  Simplicity is nice!
>
> Other than needing to keep pedalling while the shift completes, what's
> any more difficult about derailleur shifting than IG hub shifting?  I
> find brifter action confusing - but then, I seem to be the only one who
> does, and I find twist grip shifters confusing, too.  Triggers, bar ends
> and down tube shifters all make perfect sense.
>
> And when it comes to "simplicity" the only thing "simple" about an
> internal geared hub is that it's all hidden inside the hub shell.  It's
> far more complex mechanically than a derailleur drive train, it's just
> that you can't see it.
>
> And when it comes to removing a wheel, either to transport the bike or
> to fix a flat, derailleur wins hands down.  There are no complicated
> linkages to remove, and you have quick releases to allow for tool-free
> opening.
>
> Maintenance?  Removing the chain's no more difficult with one or the
> other, although obviously tensioning the chain correctly is harder with
> an internal geared hub than a derailleur, especially if you have
> vertical dropouts.  Can cleaning a derailleur be all that hard?
>
> I'd say the bottom line is, IG hubs have one advantage: you can shift
> without moving the cranks.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> >  wrote:
>
> >         (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these
> >         heavy/draggy/
> >         hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which
> >         will
> >         require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have
> >         worked
> >         on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand
> >         the
> >         appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern
> >         derailleurs?)

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Re: [RBW] Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[Steve Palincsar]

On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 14:44 -0600, Dan Abelson wrote:
> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/1497663434.html
> 
> 
> I saw this Romulus for sale on Minneapolis craigslist. It seems a bit
> suspicious considering the low price and the fact the seller does not
> even seem to know the size or based on his post much about bikes at
> all.  I am wondering if this bike is stolen.


The absence of the seat post and saddle makes me wonder, too.  Were they
removed to prevent theft of the saddle while the bike was locked up
somewhere?  How else do you get a fully equipped bike minus seat post
and saddle?



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Re: [RBW] Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[Dan Abelson]

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 14:44 -0600, Dan Abelson wrote:
> > http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/1497663434.html
> >
> >
> > I saw this Romulus for sale on Minneapolis craigslist. It seems a bit
> > suspicious considering the low price and the fact the seller does not
> > even seem to know the size or based on his post much about bikes at
> > all.  I am wondering if this bike is stolen.
>
>
> The absence of the seat post and saddle makes me wonder, too.  Were they
> removed to prevent theft of the saddle while the bike was locked up
> somewhere?  How else do you get a fully equipped bike minus seat post
> and saddle?
>
>
> The bike also appears to be missing the front brake.

Dan Abelson

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[RBW] Re: Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Looks like at least the front brake is missing, too. Perhaps some
parts were swiped for a fixed-gear project.

On Dec 6, 2:54 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 14:44 -0600, Dan Abelson wrote:
> >http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/1497663434.html
>
> > I saw this Romulus for sale on Minneapolis craigslist. It seems a bit
> > suspicious considering the low price and the fact the seller does not
> > even seem to know the size or based on his post much about bikes at
> > all.  I am wondering if this bike is stolen.
>
> The absence of the seat post and saddle makes me wonder, too.  Were they
> removed to prevent theft of the saddle while the bike was locked up
> somewhere?  How else do you get a fully equipped bike minus seat post
> and saddle?

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[RBW] Re: Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I always use the phone, rather than email, for customer support
issues. I think there's a guy named Nate who has helped me before, but
anybody who answers should be able to help.
1-312-664-8800
Make sure you point out that your LBS has no source of parts for
these, or any SRAM/Sachs IGH hubs, which is why you are calling them
directly.

On Dec 6, 2:30 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/Ins_sram_P5_8_2005.pdf
>
> I'm missing parts 2-6 it looks like, and part 1 is bent all crazy like (and
> doesn't come out!).
>
> You have a contact for tech support there?  Their contact page doesn't have
> email and only lists the folks with the high pay 
> scales...http://www.sram.com/contact
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
>
>
>
> thill@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is a strange hub to set up. The documentation thar shows the
> > correct shift adjustment is incorrect. SRAM has an office in Chicago
> > and their tech guys have always been helpful ime.
>
> > On Dec 6, 2:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > > Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
> > > Full story is here:
> >http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fix...
>
> > > Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way around one
> > of
> > > these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.  Directions via
> > the
> > > internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up having
> > to
> > > send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I don't know
> > who
> > > is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the fact it's a
> > > SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here in the
> > > States (or so I've read).
>
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > David
> > > Redlands, CA
>
> > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
> > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
> > > scientist guy
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Re: [RBW] Re: Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[Bill Connell]

That's the very definition of a sketchy CL ad. I've cross-posted this
to Mpls Bike Love, hope someone gets their Romulus back!
Bill


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 wrote:
> Looks like at least the front brake is missing, too. Perhaps some
> parts were swiped for a fixed-gear project.
>
> On Dec 6, 2:54 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 14:44 -0600, Dan Abelson wrote:
>> >http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/1497663434.html
>>
>> > I saw this Romulus for sale on Minneapolis craigslist. It seems a bit
>> > suspicious considering the low price and the fact the seller does not
>> > even seem to know the size or based on his post much about bikes at
>> > all.  I am wondering if this bike is stolen.
>>
>> The absence of the seat post and saddle makes me wonder, too.  Were they
>> removed to prevent theft of the saddle while the bike was locked up
>> somewhere?  How else do you get a fully equipped bike minus seat post
>> and saddle?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[John Blish]

I have written to the person offering the Romulus.  I work in Maple Grove
and will try to check it out further if I get a response from that person.
I have checked on both of my Romulus bikes and they are both where they
should be.  I will report further if I get a response.

John

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Bill Connell  wrote:

> That's the very definition of a sketchy CL ad. I've cross-posted this
> to Mpls Bike Love, hope someone gets their Romulus back!
> Bill
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>  wrote:
> > Looks like at least the front brake is missing, too. Perhaps some
> > parts were swiped for a fixed-gear project.
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2:54 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 14:44 -0600, Dan Abelson wrote:
> >> >http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/1497663434.html
> >>
> >> > I saw this Romulus for sale on Minneapolis craigslist. It seems a bit
> >> > suspicious considering the low price and the fact the seller does not
> >> > even seem to know the size or based on his post much about bikes at
> >> > all.  I am wondering if this bike is stolen.
> >>
> >> The absence of the seat post and saddle makes me wonder, too.  Were they
> >> removed to prevent theft of the saddle while the bike was locked up
> >> somewhere?  How else do you get a fully equipped bike minus seat post
> >> and saddle?
> >
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[RBW] looking for rambouillet or romulus

[tlawnsby]

hey -- someone sell me your 56 rambo or 55 rom.
I want to ride it so you can go upgrade to a sam hill or roadeo or
whatever.

Later
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RE: [RBW] looking for rambouillet or romulus

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Nice post.  You're formal, but you like to party. 

-Original Message-
From: tlawnsby [mailto:tlawn...@clearwire.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 4:40 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] looking for rambouillet or romulus

hey -- someone sell me your 56 rambo or 55 rom.
I want to ride it so you can go upgrade to a sam hill or roadeo or whatever.

Later
Tom.

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Alex]

Thanks for all the information and advice, folks.  It will help me
decide whether or not to install an elegant but heavy Alfine system.

Alex

On Dec 7, 9:21 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Simplicity as in one shifter to cover a wide-range of gear ratios.  A 1X9
> system would work just as well, but I've observed newbies/kids don't get the
> whole two-shifters thing.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 12:02 -0800, cyclotourist wrote:
> > > I think using one in wet & mucky conditions would be a pretty good set
> > > up.  I wouldn't want one as I'm always changing flats due to
> > > thorns/debris and don't want to mess w/ an IGH.  Also, IGHs seem like
> > > a cool deal for kids who are learning to shift and/or someone learning
> > > or re-learning to ride.  Simplicity is nice!
>
> > Other than needing to keep pedalling while the shift completes, what's
> > any more difficult about derailleur shifting than IG hub shifting?  I
> > find brifter action confusing - but then, I seem to be the only one who
> > does, and I find twist grip shifters confusing, too.  Triggers, bar ends
> > and down tube shifters all make perfect sense.
>
> > And when it comes to "simplicity" the only thing "simple" about an
> > internal geared hub is that it's all hidden inside the hub shell.  It's
> > far more complex mechanically than a derailleur drive train, it's just
> > that you can't see it.
>
> > And when it comes to removing a wheel, either to transport the bike or
> > to fix a flat, derailleur wins hands down.  There are no complicated
> > linkages to remove, and you have quick releases to allow for tool-free
> > opening.
>
> > Maintenance?  Removing the chain's no more difficult with one or the
> > other, although obviously tensioning the chain correctly is harder with
> > an internal geared hub than a derailleur, especially if you have
> > vertical dropouts.  Can cleaning a derailleur be all that hard?
>
> > I'd say the bottom line is, IG hubs have one advantage: you can shift
> > without moving the cranks.
>
> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> > >  wrote:
>
> > >         (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these
> > >         heavy/draggy/
> > >         hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which
> > >         will
> > >         require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have
> > >         worked
> > >         on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand
> > >         the
> > >         appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern
> > >         derailleurs?)
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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[JoelMatthews]

> (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these heavy/draggy/
> hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which will
> require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have worked
> on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand the
> appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern
> derailleurs?)

I can see the point with a retrofit of a bike designed for derailers.
On a custom with an EBB and cable routing planned, an IGH allows for a
clean look.  And if the rider ultimately sours on the IGH, the EBB
allows a relatively painless switch to single speed.

If you have more than one bike - I have three - it is interesting for
some people anyway to try different approaches.  Others may prefer to
have multiple variations on a theme.  More power to them.  I prefer
variety.

On Dec 6, 12:38 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> "using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
> while - it actually works great."
>
> It does not, in fact, work great, but some may find it adequate. We
> set one up awhile back, and it shifted, but the shifts were not exact.
> It could be tweaked to shift better at one end or the other of the
> gear range, but there was always some compromise. Friction-mode
> "seemed" fine, but I have no idea how it would work in the long run.
> At minimum, I suspect it voids the hub warranty. Jay at Jtek explained
> to me that Alfine/Nexus shift stops are not uniformly spaced, while
> standard indexed bar-end shifter have uniform cable pull from one gear
> to the next (regardless of whether you use a travel agent). At best,
> the travel agent set-up hits the gear more or less correctly "on
> average".  Anyway, I concluded that it was a fun experiment, but that
> I would never sell this set-up/kludge to a customer.
>
> (BTW, I'm cringing at the idea of installing one of these heavy/draggy/
> hard-to-fix hubs on a fine bicycle like a Rambouillet, which will
> require strange cable routing, a chain tensioner, etc. I have worked
> on and ridden MANY of these, and still don't fully understand the
> appeal for most bikes... What the heck is wrong with modern
> derailleurs?)
>
> On Dec 6, 11:25 am, Patrick in VT  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
>
> > > ok this is only my experience
> > > but at acme
> > > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> > > (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> > > for use with internally geared hubs
> > > with little success of quality shifting
>
> > using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
> > while - it actually works great.  i know a fella who's been running
> > this set-up for about 3 years with no problems.

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[JoelMatthews]

> That sounds like a nice set up, Joel!  Have you seen the Singular Peregrine
> with an Alfine?

No, I had not seen this one before.  Thanks for the link.  The color
is fairly close to what the primary color on the Retrotec will be.

On Dec 6, 2:00 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> That sounds like a nice set up, Joel!  Have you seen the Singular Peregrine
> with an Alfine?  A guy's got one on 
> flickr:http://www.flickr.com/search/?ss=1&w=all&q=singular+alfine+peregrine&;...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > Yes.  T'would be nice if Shimano and Sram and Rohloff for that matter
> > would get to work on producing levers for their IGHs.  Strumey-Archer
> > will offer a down tube shifter for its forthcoming fixed 3 - speed
> > hub.  Maybe that will start something.
>
> > Curtis Inglis is trying to modify a J-Tek for use as a down tube
> > shifter on my forth coming Alfine equipped Retrotec.  Hope it works
> > out, as for now, it does not appear he will be able to get another.
>
> > On Dec 6, 11:56 am, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> > > travel agent? duh!
>
> > > why didnt i think bout that
>
> > > thanks fer the info
>
> > > will have to hunker down in the shop this week and try it
>
> > > tho i really do hope that shimano takes notice that
>
> > > there is indeed a market for a "quality" road style shifter
>
> > > the trigger and grip shift style ar whole inadequate quality-wise
>
> > > for anything but entry level city sorta bikes
>
> > > not necessarily how they work perse
>
> > > but asthetically
>
> > > and thats important to me i have to say
>
> > > peace
>
> > > well behaved women rarely make history
> > > _ride yr friggin bicycle_
>
> > > > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:25:18 -0800
> > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter
> > > > From: psh...@drm.com
> > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > > On Dec 6, 12:14 pm, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> > > > > ok this is only my experience
> > > > > but at acme
> > > > > we tried every single possible 8 speed or friction shifter
> > > > > (btw-the shimano bar ends all have friction mode)
> > > > > for use with internally geared hubs
> > > > > with little success of quality shifting
>
> > > > using an 8spd bar end shifter with a travel agent was in vogue for a
> > > > while - it actually works great. i know a fella who's been running
> > > > this set-up for about 3 years with no problems.
>
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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Patrick in VT]

On Dec 6, 1:38 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

> It does not, in fact, work great, but some may find it adequate.

yes, I should have been more clear.  the bar-end/travel agent hack
seems to work just fine in friction mode.  he rides quite a bit, but
like you said - whether it will be fine, or adequate, or work at all
in five years, nobody knows.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bay Area Fixedgear ride, Dec. 5 Sat.

[Ray Shine]

Thank you. It was fun. Paradise always is.

RS

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, RonLau  wrote:

From: RonLau 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Bay Area Fixedgear ride, Dec. 5 Sat.
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 9:25 AM

Thank you all for coming out yesterday.

It was a little cold, just the right climate for fixed, IMHO.

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[RBW] Re: Bay Area Fixedgear ride, Dec. 5 Sat.

[Jim M.]

Thanks for organizing Ron, and thanks everyone for the patience with
my chain tensioning issues. I'll bring the Quickbeam next time; no
issues with that one.

jim m

On Dec 6, 3:14 pm, Ray Shine  wrote:
> Thank you. It was fun. Paradise always is.
>
> RS
>
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> From: RonLau 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Bay Area Fixedgear ride, Dec. 5 Sat.
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 9:25 AM
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> Thank you all for coming out yesterday.
>
> It was a little cold, just the right climate for fixed, IMHO.
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[RBW] Re: My Bombadil frame is at RBW!!!

[Rene Sterental]

Ray,

If all goes well, I expect to take its maiden trip next Sunday,
probably at Ft. Ord where I've been invited to go mountain biking.

Ft. Ord's trails are sandy and therefore excellent in the rainy
season. I have an all day business meeting on Saturday, and hopefully
will be building the bike in the first couple of evenings, taking it
slowly and savoring every minute!

I'll be posting photos.

René

On 12/6/09, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Wow! That is exactly the look I wanted to create. A frame that looked black
> until the light shone on it! I can't wait to get there tomorrow
> afternoon...
> it's going to be a torturing morning at work... :-D
>
> I'll call them in the morning to have them install the Chris King headset.
>
> Thanks for your comment! I'm smiling ear to ear now!!!
>
> René
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Steve Ardrey  wrote:
>
>> Rene,
>> I was at Rivendell on friday.  I couldnt help but notice your frame
>> hanging
>> in the show room.
>> I really like the color.  It is looks black until it is in the light then
>> you can see the green.   This will be fine looking machine when it gets
>> built.  I am jealous!
>> -- sacyclepath --
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>>
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 12/5/09, Rene Sterental * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Rene Sterental 
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: My Bombadil frame is at RBW!!!
>> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 11:47 AM
>>
>> After a long internal debate, I went with the darkest green I could
>> find in Keven's color catalogs. Almost black, with the cream accents.
>> I can't wait to see how it turned out...
>>
>> René
>>
>> On 12/5/09, newenglandbike
>> http://us.mc322.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=matthiasbe...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > Sweet!   What colors did you go with for the paint?
>> >
>> > As for a headset, I have a Tange Levin on mine, and it works great-
>> > I've done some bumpy riding with it in the heavily rooted woods around
>> > here, in addition to a regular 40-mile round trip commute on
>> > marginally decent roads, and it remains as smooth as ever.   Yes, it's
>> > only 20 bucks, but don't let the price fool you- it's a really good
>> > headset.
>> >
>> > Can't wait to see your new Bombadil built-up.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 5, 12:18 pm, Rene Sterental
>> > http://us.mc322.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=orthie...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >> Keven e-mailed me yesterday to let me know that my Bombadil frame has
>> >> arrived and is waiting for me. His words were that it looked
>> >> "incredible"...
>> >> I can hardly wait to see how the paint scheme turned out.
>> >>
>> >> I'll be picking it up on Monday afternoon, but the new Cane Creek
>> headset
>> >> that Mark had suggested hasn't arrived yet, and it won't for another
>> week
>> >> or
>> >> two. My options are to wait, choose a DuraAce headset (same as I have
>> >> on
>> >> the
>> >> Homer) or choose a Chris King headset. The standard Tange is also an
>> >> option.
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions on the headset?
>> >>
>> >> I'll be posting photos when I pick it up and build it!
>> >>
>> >> René
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[RBW] Re: Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[Frankwurst]

$500 cash only? Pretty suspicious indeed. And as stated the guy
doesn't seem to know much about bicycles. Maybe a generalization but
most people that deal or ride Rivs have a pretty good idea about what
they have in hand. Keep us posted John.

On Dec 6, 3:32 pm, John Blish  wrote:
> I have written to the person offering the Romulus.  I work in Maple Grove
> and will try to check it out further if I get a response from that person.
> I have checked on both of my Romulus bikes and they are both where they
> should be.  I will report further if I get a response.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Bill Connell  wrote:
> > That's the very definition of a sketchy CL ad. I've cross-posted this
> > to Mpls Bike Love, hope someone gets their Romulus back!
> > Bill
>
> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> >  wrote:
> > > Looks like at least the front brake is missing, too. Perhaps some
> > > parts were swiped for a fixed-gear project.
>
> > > On Dec 6, 2:54 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 14:44 -0600, Dan Abelson wrote:
> > >> >http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/1497663434.html
>
> > >> > I saw this Romulus for sale on Minneapolis craigslist. It seems a bit
> > >> > suspicious considering the low price and the fact the seller does not
> > >> > even seem to know the size or based on his post much about bikes at
> > >> > all.  I am wondering if this bike is stolen.
>
> > >> The absence of the seat post and saddle makes me wonder, too.  Were they
> > >> removed to prevent theft of the saddle while the bike was locked up
> > >> somewhere?  How else do you get a fully equipped bike minus seat post
> > >> and saddle?
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[RBW] Re: Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[RoadieRyan]

David

One other resource.  Go to http://www.rideyourbike.com/  my local west
seattle bike shop.  They specialize in IGH.  In the header pull down
services and go to internal gears and there is an email address to
send questions too although Jims suggestion of going to the source is
a good one.


Good luck - be sure to post when its back up and running.  I am sure
it will be ausgezeichnet!


On Dec 6, 1:07 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> I always use the phone, rather than email, for customer support
> issues. I think there's a guy named Nate who has helped me before, but
> anybody who answers should be able to help.
> 1-312-664-8800
> Make sure you point out that your LBS has no source of parts for
> these, or any SRAM/Sachs IGH hubs, which is why you are calling them
> directly.
>
> On Dec 6, 2:30 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/Ins_sram_P5_8_2005.pdf
>
> > I'm missing parts 2-6 it looks like, and part 1 is bent all crazy like (and
> > doesn't come out!).
>
> > You have a contact for tech support there?  Their contact page doesn't have
> > email and only lists the folks with the high pay 
> > scales...http://www.sram.com/contact
>
> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
>
> > thill@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It is a strange hub to set up. The documentation thar shows the
> > > correct shift adjustment is incorrect. SRAM has an office in Chicago
> > > and their tech guys have always been helpful ime.
>
> > > On Dec 6, 2:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > > > Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
> > > > Full story is here:
> > >http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fix...
>
> > > > Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way around 
> > > > one
> > > of
> > > > these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.  Directions via
> > > the
> > > > internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up having
> > > to
> > > > send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I don't know
> > > who
> > > > is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the fact it's 
> > > > a
> > > > SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here in the
> > > > States (or so I've read).
>
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> > > > David
> > > > Redlands, CA
>
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[RBW] So Cal Riv ride: Chino Hills SP

[doug peterson]

This ride was posted a few weeks back while in its formative stage.
Now we're on for next Sunday, December 13.  Meet at the Starbucks at
the Brea Gateway Mall at S. Brea Blvd and Imperial Hwy (NOT the Brea
Mall, a bit east of there).  Bike'n'bag ogle, outrageous lies and
coffee in the 9ish range, ride at 10 AM.

Andy worked out the route and it's posted in a link on the flickr
site:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157622685585543/

Originally about 30 miles, it got expanded due to popular interest.
Andy assures me that the expanded route will consume all available
daylight, energy and available resources.  Very few useless (i.e.,
flat & boring) miles and mostly high quality stuff.

Riv content:  2 of 3 Atlantis' we know of on OC will be attending.  No
RSVP; show'n'go.

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[RoadieRyan]

I did see a interesting solution from an LBS for drop bar IGH combo.
They put an extention on the end of the right drop and attached the
twist shifter to the extenstion so the twist shift was where a barend
would be.  It actually looked pretty nice.

On Dec 6, 2:35 pm, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> On Dec 6, 1:38 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> wrote:
>
> > It does not, in fact, work great, but some may find it adequate.
>
> yes, I should have been more clear.  the bar-end/travel agent hack
> seems to work just fine in friction mode.  he rides quite a bit, but
> like you said - whether it will be fine, or adequate, or work at all
> in five years, nobody knows.

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[RBW] Re: New Bombadil group on flickr

[RoadieRyan]

Matt pretty powerful post you went from 1 member to 13 in 2 days!
nice shots by the  way

On Dec 6, 10:52 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
> Thanks Dave, those are awesome!   That's a sweet set-up you've got
> there.    As far as quantity goes, post 'em all!   Looks like Jim's
> Bombadil page on cyclofiend.com needs more bikes too there's some
> really good info on there as well.
>
> On Dec 6, 1:14 pm, Dave Craig  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've finally created a flickr account. Posted a few Bombadil photos to
> > the new group. Thanks, your post was a good motivation. I'm new to
> > this photo posting bit. Let me know if I've posted too many on the
> > group and I'll remove some.
>
> > On Dec 5, 11:49 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > > I just wanted to bring to yall's attention a new flickr group
> > > dedicated to the Bombadil.    So far I am its only member, but
> > > hopefully it will grow fast.    I know there is already a terrific
> > > group dedicated to RBW, but I figured the Bombadil is a really unique
> > > and special bike, even among Rivendells, and that it might warrant
> > > having its own flickr group.
>
> > > There are already quite a few Bombadil owners who have shared
> > > images of their rig on flickr, and they've all been invited to join
> > > (or at least, I hope they have-  if you're on there and you haven't,
> > > you are hereby invited to join).
>
> > > If there are any more owners lurking here, who have not yet snapped a
> > > photo, or uploaded images of their Bombadil to flickr, please do :)
> > > I'm hoping it will be a great way to showcase the versatility and
> > > configurability of this great bike.
>
> > > The group URL is here:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/groups/bombadil/
>
> > > Thank you,
>
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[RBW] Re: New Bombadil group on flickr

[Dave Craig]

Thanks, Matt.

The Bomb is currently built up with flat bars and barends. I'll try to
post some pictures of that set-up soon.

I took a look at your QB and Bomba pictures as well - really nice
bikes. Looks like you and I caught the same virus. I bought a QB
within a year of getting the Bombadil!

On Dec 6, 11:52 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
> Thanks Dave, those are awesome!   That's a sweet set-up you've got
> there.    As far as quantity goes, post 'em all!   Looks like Jim's
> Bombadil page on cyclofiend.com needs more bikes too there's some
> really good info on there as well.
>
> On Dec 6, 1:14 pm, Dave Craig  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I've finally created a flickr account. Posted a few Bombadil photos to
> > the new group. Thanks, your post was a good motivation. I'm new to
> > this photo posting bit. Let me know if I've posted too many on the
> > group and I'll remove some.
>
> > On Dec 5, 11:49 am, newenglandbike  wrote:
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > > I just wanted to bring to yall's attention a new flickr group
> > > dedicated to the Bombadil.    So far I am its only member, but
> > > hopefully it will grow fast.    I know there is already a terrific
> > > group dedicated to RBW, but I figured the Bombadil is a really unique
> > > and special bike, even among Rivendells, and that it might warrant
> > > having its own flickr group.
>
> > > There are already quite a few Bombadil owners who have shared
> > > images of their rig on flickr, and they've all been invited to join
> > > (or at least, I hope they have-  if you're on there and you haven't,
> > > you are hereby invited to join).
>
> > > If there are any more owners lurking here, who have not yet snapped a
> > > photo, or uploaded images of their Bombadil to flickr, please do :)
> > > I'm hoping it will be a great way to showcase the versatility and
> > > configurability of this great bike.
>
> > > The group URL is here:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/groups/bombadil/
>
> > > Thank you,
>
> > > Matt

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[RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Patrick in VT]

On Dec 6, 9:17 pm, RoadieRyan  wrote:
> I did see a interesting solution from an LBS for drop bar IGH combo.
> They put an extention on the end of the right drop and attached the
> twist shifter to the extenstion so the twist shift was where a barend
> would be.  It actually looked pretty nice.

hubbub makes a similar part - http://www.hubbub.com/store/products.asp?id=32

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[RBW] FS: 7-spd freewheel, Huret DuoPar rear ders, handlebars, barcons, more

[Anne]

All prices are w/o shipping, which will be actual based on total
package, USPS Priority for most.

New in box Sachs Suntour 7-spd freewheel 13-32, $30
http://tinyurl.com/yg4sglc

Lot of four Huret rear mechs $75 for all
http://tinyurl.com/ylxm9dx

Salsa 25.4 x 85 quill stem $35
http://tinyurl.com/ykmjaxq
http://tinyurl.com/ycylly9

Shimano 8-spd trigger shifter, mtb bar dia $10
http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t137/RiverKnife/MTB%20and%20Retro/?start=20

email for pics of any items below
One pair each of Shimano BL6401 and BL6402 aero brake levers $35 per
pair
Excellent condition.

Suntour BarCons $35
The classic power ratchet

45 c-c Nitto Grand Randonneur 135 mounted to a Nitto stem $35 each or
$60 for the pair
Specialized VI 46 $25
another Nitto 135 , 45c-c  $35
Salso Pro Road 40c-c  $15
Nitto 135 42  $25

Cinelli Diet Eubios 40c-c with a NIB XA 85 stem in black to match $60

Dia Compe 287 V-Brake levers for drop bars with adjustable noodles $25
Mounted and ridden for about one week.

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[RBW] Re: FS First Generation Sackville Saddlesack & Handlebar Bag

[manueljohnacosta]

wow i never knew they made bags like these. wonder what happen to the
production.. I would buy a pair if they came in black and white like
traditional carradice bags.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[cyclotourist]

Telephone... what's that?  I'll give that a try and try to get hold of
someone there!  :-)  My LBS made it quite clear they wanted nothing to do
with this.  Maybe I should have told them I was interested in a Madone in
order to get back into (serious) cycling...

So far, that's a real good lead.  I have had James Black (local-ish in L.A.
and runs the IGH Yahoo group) mentioned as a contact.  Also there's Aaron's
Bikes in Seattle which looks like they have a good handle on this and might
be a good help.  But $175 flat fee plus shipping both ways... well, it was
free, but I don't know how much I want to get put into this.  Hoping that
between James and Sram I'll get a heads up as to whether I get the missing
parts and if it's a DIY job.  I don't want to take the hub apart and
re-build it, but hope I can just get it going again in "good enough" shape
to make it through three kids in route to 26" bikes

Will report back!

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

> I always use the phone, rather than email, for customer support
> issues. I think there's a guy named Nate who has helped me before, but
> anybody who answers should be able to help.
> 1-312-664-8800
> Make sure you point out that your LBS has no source of parts for
> these, or any SRAM/Sachs IGH hubs, which is why you are calling them
> directly.
>
> On Dec 6, 2:30 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/Ins_sram_P5_8_2005.pdf
> >
> > I'm missing parts 2-6 it looks like, and part 1 is bent all crazy like
> (and
> > doesn't come out!).
> >
> > You have a contact for tech support there?  Their contact page doesn't
> have
> > email and only lists the folks with the high pay scales...
> http://www.sram.com/contact
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
> >
> >
> >
> > thill@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It is a strange hub to set up. The documentation thar shows the
> > > correct shift adjustment is incorrect. SRAM has an office in Chicago
> > > and their tech guys have always been helpful ime.
> >
> > > On Dec 6, 2:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > > > Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
> > > > Full story is here:
> > >http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fix.
> ..
> >
> > > > Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way around
> one
> > > of
> > > > these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.  Directions
> via
> > > the
> > > > internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up
> having
> > > to
> > > > send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I don't
> know
> > > who
> > > > is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the fact
> it's a
> > > > SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here in
> the
> > > > States (or so I've read).
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > David
> > > > Redlands, CA
> >
> > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
> something
> > > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill
> Nye,
> > > > scientist guy
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[cyclotourist]

Yes, someone sent me that link.  Looks like they could do it, but $175 + S&H
both ways.  I just want to know if I could buy the click shifter and be
tinker a bit to get it running or not.  If not... well, I suppose steel is
recyclable.


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM, RoadieRyan  wrote:

> David
>
> One other resource.  Go to http://www.rideyourbike.com/  my local west
> seattle bike shop.  They specialize in IGH.  In the header pull down
> services and go to internal gears and there is an email address to
> send questions too although Jims suggestion of going to the source is
> a good one.
>
>
> Good luck - be sure to post when its back up and running.  I am sure
> it will be ausgezeichnet!
>
>
> On Dec 6, 1:07 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> wrote:
> > I always use the phone, rather than email, for customer support
> > issues. I think there's a guy named Nate who has helped me before, but
> > anybody who answers should be able to help.
> > 1-312-664-8800
> > Make sure you point out that your LBS has no source of parts for
> > these, or any SRAM/Sachs IGH hubs, which is why you are calling them
> > directly.
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2:30 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/Ins_sram_P5_8_2005.pdf
> >
> > > I'm missing parts 2-6 it looks like, and part 1 is bent all crazy like
> (and
> > > doesn't come out!).
> >
> > > You have a contact for tech support there?  Their contact page doesn't
> have
> > > email and only lists the folks with the high pay scales...
> http://www.sram.com/contact
> >
> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
> >
> > > thill@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It is a strange hub to set up. The documentation thar shows the
> > > > correct shift adjustment is incorrect. SRAM has an office in Chicago
> > > > and their tech guys have always been helpful ime.
> >
> > > > On Dec 6, 2:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > > > > Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
> > > > > Full story is here:
> > > >
> http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fix...
> >
> > > > > Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way
> around one
> > > > of
> > > > > these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.
>  Directions via
> > > > the
> > > > > internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up
> having
> > > > to
> > > > > send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I don't
> know
> > > > who
> > > > > is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the fact
> it's a
> > > > > SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here in
> the
> > > > > States (or so I've read).
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > David
> > > > > Redlands, CA
> >
> > > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
> something
> > > > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill
> Nye,
> > > > > scientist guy
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[RBW] FS: Noodle, technomic and Phil Wood

[colin p. cummings]

I'm cash hungry...

44cm Nitto Noodle: $49
8cm Nitto Tech stem 26.0 clamp: $43
Phil Wood BB 108mm with English cups: $105

The BB is unused, only mounted.  The noodles and stem show normal
wear, had 'em about a year.  All prices include shipping.

Cheers,

Colin Cummings
Amarillo, TX

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[RBW] Re: Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[jim_OLP]

This is pretty obviously a stolen bike.  If the real owner sees this
listing he might be able to get a Minneapolis cop to make the trip
with him.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[tarik saleh]

CycloT,

I think you just need a click box, a shifter and the little aluminum
thing that bends funny if you look at it and the little red thing that
goes on top of that. I may know a guy who has some of these in the
basement. He is currently surfing the internet with his knee up in
pain...

You should be able to get the manual off the internet that should be
pretty useful.:
http://www.sram.com/_media/pdf/sram/dealers/DTM_GHS_E_99.pdf
Page 40 I think...

Let me, ih, i mean him get back with you tomorrow.

Tarik



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:39 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Yes, someone sent me that link.  Looks like they could do it, but $175 + S&H
> both ways.  I just want to know if I could buy the click shifter and be
> tinker a bit to get it running or not.  If not... well, I suppose steel is
> recyclable.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM, RoadieRyan  wrote:
>>
>> David
>>
>> One other resource.  Go to http://www.rideyourbike.com/  my local west
>> seattle bike shop.  They specialize in IGH.  In the header pull down
>> services and go to internal gears and there is an email address to
>> send questions too although Jims suggestion of going to the source is
>> a good one.
>>
>>
>> Good luck - be sure to post when its back up and running.  I am sure
>> it will be ausgezeichnet!
>>
>>
>> On Dec 6, 1:07 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
>> wrote:
>> > I always use the phone, rather than email, for customer support
>> > issues. I think there's a guy named Nate who has helped me before, but
>> > anybody who answers should be able to help.
>> > 1-312-664-8800
>> > Make sure you point out that your LBS has no source of parts for
>> > these, or any SRAM/Sachs IGH hubs, which is why you are calling them
>> > directly.
>> >
>> > On Dec 6, 2:30 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/Ins_sram_P5_8_2005.pdf
>> >
>> > > I'm missing parts 2-6 it looks like, and part 1 is bent all crazy like
>> > > (and
>> > > doesn't come out!).
>> >
>> > > You have a contact for tech support there?  Their contact page doesn't
>> > > have
>> > > email and only lists the folks with the high pay
>> > > scales...http://www.sram.com/contact
>> >
>> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
>> >
>> > > thill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > It is a strange hub to set up. The documentation thar shows the
>> > > > correct shift adjustment is incorrect. SRAM has an office in Chicago
>> > > > and their tech guys have always been helpful ime.
>> >
>> > > > On Dec 6, 2:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>> > > > > Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
>> > > > > Full story is here:
>> > >
>> > > > >http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fix...
>> >
>> > > > > Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way
>> > > > > around one
>> > > > of
>> > > > > these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.
>> > > > >  Directions via
>> > > > the
>> > > > > internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up
>> > > > > having
>> > > > to
>> > > > > send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I don't
>> > > > > know
>> > > > who
>> > > > > is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the fact
>> > > > > it's a
>> > > > > SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here
>> > > > > in the
>> > > > > States (or so I've read).
>> >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > David
>> > > > > Redlands, CA
>> >
>> > > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
>> > > > > something
>> > > > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."
>> > > > >  ~Bill Nye,
>> > > > > scientist guy
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Re: [RBW] Re: Romulus for sale on Minneapolis Craigslist - a little suspicious?

[cyclotourist]

I have been BANNED from the bicycle lifestyle list for suggesting what I
would do when finding such a person listing a stolen bike for sale... so
will refrain from that here.  I should send a you-tube link for George
Carlin's Seven Dirty Words to the Puritans over there and really blow their
mind!

de



On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:44 PM, jim_OLP  wrote:

> This is pretty obviously a stolen bike.  If the real owner sees this
> listing he might be able to get a Minneapolis cop to make the trip
> with him.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help with a Sachs P5 Pentasport IGH (super-dooper cross-posting alert!)

[cyclotourist]

O, good linkety-link, that's got it all!  I need all those little
shifter parts on figure #11, page 42 (maybe 41).  My emails are getting
bounced from the yahoo group, so still relying on RBW/ibob expert
opinions...

FWIW, I jacked my knee up today moving an oak tree.  Ouch.

THANKS!

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:03 PM, tarik saleh  wrote:

> CycloT,
>
> I think you just need a click box, a shifter and the little aluminum
> thing that bends funny if you look at it and the little red thing that
> goes on top of that. I may know a guy who has some of these in the
> basement. He is currently surfing the internet with his knee up in
> pain...
>
> You should be able to get the manual off the internet that should be
> pretty useful.:
> http://www.sram.com/_media/pdf/sram/dealers/DTM_GHS_E_99.pdf
> Page 40 I think...
>
> Let me, ih, i mean him get back with you tomorrow.
>
> Tarik
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:39 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > Yes, someone sent me that link.  Looks like they could do it, but $175 +
> S&H
> > both ways.  I just want to know if I could buy the click shifter and be
> > tinker a bit to get it running or not.  If not... well, I suppose steel
> is
> > recyclable.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM, RoadieRyan  wrote:
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> One other resource.  Go to http://www.rideyourbike.com/  my local west
> >> seattle bike shop.  They specialize in IGH.  In the header pull down
> >> services and go to internal gears and there is an email address to
> >> send questions too although Jims suggestion of going to the source is
> >> a good one.
> >>
> >>
> >> Good luck - be sure to post when its back up and running.  I am sure
> >> it will be ausgezeichnet!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 6, 1:07 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I always use the phone, rather than email, for customer support
> >> > issues. I think there's a guy named Nate who has helped me before, but
> >> > anybody who answers should be able to help.
> >> > 1-312-664-8800
> >> > Make sure you point out that your LBS has no source of parts for
> >> > these, or any SRAM/Sachs IGH hubs, which is why you are calling them
> >> > directly.
> >> >
> >> > On Dec 6, 2:30 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/Ins_sram_P5_8_2005.pdf
> >> >
> >> > > I'm missing parts 2-6 it looks like, and part 1 is bent all crazy
> like
> >> > > (and
> >> > > doesn't come out!).
> >> >
> >> > > You have a contact for tech support there?  Their contact page
> doesn't
> >> > > have
> >> > > email and only lists the folks with the high pay
> >> > > scales...http://www.sram.com/contact
> >> >
> >> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
> >> >
> >> > > thill@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > It is a strange hub to set up. The documentation thar shows the
> >> > > > correct shift adjustment is incorrect. SRAM has an office in
> Chicago
> >> > > > and their tech guys have always been helpful ime.
> >> >
> >> > > > On Dec 6, 2:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >> > > > > Great potential bike for my kid, but it needs some work.
> >> > > > > Full story is here:
> >> > >
> >> > > > >
> http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/2009/12/help-davey-get-this-bike-fix...
> >> >
> >> > > > > Basically, I need to be pointed to someone who knows their way
> >> > > > > around one
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > > these hubs to see if the one I have can be made to work.
> >> > > > >  Directions via
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > internets might get it running, but I have a feeling I'll end up
> >> > > > > having
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > send it to an expert... that would have been Sheldon, but I
> don't
> >> > > > > know
> >> > > > who
> >> > > > > is next in line for IGH knowlege.  Complicating things is the
> fact
> >> > > > > it's a
> >> > > > > SRAM which doesn't have a whole lot of support for the IGHs here
> >> > > > > in the
> >> > > > > States (or so I've read).
> >> >
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Cheers,
> >> > > > > David
> >> > > > > Redlands, CA
> >> >
> >> > > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
> >> > > > > something
> >> > > > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."
> >> > > > >  ~Bill Nye,
> >> > > > > scientist guy
> >> >
> >> > > > --
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> >> > > --
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > > David
> >> > > Redlands, CA
> >> >
> >> > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
> >> > > something
> >> > > wrong with a society that

[RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?

[kent]

The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?

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Re: [RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Bruce]

I was pretty happy yesterday with cloudy, windy, and damp temps in the 30s. 
Smartwool thin longsleeve base, Joneswares thick wool longsleeve jersey over 
that (covers your neck too) and a Showers Pass jacket on top (thanks to a 
fellow list member).  The only cold part after 2 1/2 hrs of ride was one foot 
(not the other interestingly) so I deduced that one shoe was laced too tightly 
while the other allowed enough airspace to insulate properly (wore Costco wool 
socks)




From: kent 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 10:18:09 PM
Subject: [RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?

The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?

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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Jtek Bar End Shifter

[Eric Norris]

I totally agree with the need for variety.  I have several geared bikes, 
several fixies, and now an 8-speed IGH on the Quickbeam.  Each has its place.  
I was hoping initially that the IGH Quickbeam would be a great randonneuring 
machine ... that may not come to pass, but it's a fun experiment and will 
certainly have its uses.  If not, I've still got a fixed gear wheel that can go 
back on in short order (the beauty of the Sturmey Archer hub is that it fits 
into 120mm dropouts).

--Eric
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On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:28 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:

> If you have more than one bike - I have three - it is interesting for
> some people anyway to try different approaches.  Others may prefer to
> have multiple variations on a theme.  More power to them.  I prefer
> variety.

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Re: [RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Bill Connell]

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:18 PM, kent  wrote:
> The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
> insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
> synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
> but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
> layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?


Around here it's rarely wet in the winter*, so i generally wear a wind
resistant but highly breathable top layer over wool and/or fleece,
temperature depending. I'm usually working harder in the winter, so
the goal is to stay warm enough without sweating, and let any sweat
get away before the base layer gets wet.

* raining wet, that is. Fenders are usually enough protection for
slushy days, though i'll sometimes wear rain pants over tights and
waterproof shoes for longer melty snow rides.

-- 
Bill Connell
St. Paul, MN

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Re: [RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Tim McNamara]

On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:18 PM, kent wrote:

> The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
> insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
> synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
> but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
> layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?

In the cold I find that no waterproof or windproof layer breathes  
well enough.  Even a one-layer nylon jacket is enough for me to end  
up drenched in sweat  even with only a single wool layer.  GoreTex is  
worse.  I had a showerproofed fine yarn cotton windbreaker that was  
better than any nylon I have ever used although not being remotely  
cycling-cut it was like riding with a parachute.  So I generally just  
layer up wool.  Wool T, longsleeve wool layer, various wool jerseys  
and sweaters.  I carry a windbreaker in case I have to stop and start  
getting chilly.

If it's cold and wet, I find some other pastime because I find riding  
in the cold and wet miserable.  I find riding in the wet miserable,  
period.  I hate riding in the rain.  But there are strange people who  
tolerate and even like it, which accounts for why there are  
bicyclists on much of the West Coast of the US or anywhere on the  
British Isles.  I should live in a desert, I'd be much happier.  If I  
do have to ride in the rain, I find that if there's little wind I  
prefer a Carradice rain cape (poncho).  This almost makes riding in  
the rain semi-pleasant.  If it's breezier I have a Showers Pass Elite  
jacket from a few years ago that has lots of ventilation options and  
manages to keep me somewhat less parboiled (the best I have found,  
anyway).  I've used this on cold dry days, too.

For really cold dry days when I feel like riding, I have a windfront  
jacket with no windblocking on the back.  The arms are still too  
sweaty but the torso is not too bad.  I usually wear this with a  
single layer of wool underneath.  Mine is the REI house brand which  
may be made by Sugoi.

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[RBW] Canvas Waxing Video

[CycloFiend]

Why not...

http://vimeo.com/8025058

- Jim "It's not that I need more hobbies, but maybe I need less
technology..."


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[RBW] Re: 62cm Upgraded Quickbeam for "Sale"

[Philip Williamson]

On Dec 5, 12:24 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 12:21 -0800, Philip Williamson wrote:
> > It is my size - if I had the money, I'd be driving up to Seattle right
> > now! I would love to have two Quickbeams - a 60cm set up for off road
> > rough stuff, and a 62cm trimmed for fast paved road riding.
>
> Do you think a 60cm with two sets of wheels would do the job fairly
> adequately?

"Admirably" is the word you're looking for, and all you really need is
tire-sets.
In my ideal world, that second Quickbeam would be orange...

 Philip

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[RBW] Swobo Jersey for sale

[cyclotourist]

Original San Francisco production Swobo Jersey.  A little thicker and a
little coarser than their current wool.  That's not a bad thing by the way.
Dark maroon with an off-white/cream panel.  The panel is tinted redish from
washing over time.  Size is large-ish.  A tight large or a baggy medium.  I
find it a touch short @ 6ft, and a touch tight on my expanded mid-section.
Shoulders/chest are perfect though.  No pin holes except for one on the
collar.  Maybe 2mm wide, but only if you kinda' pull it and look for it.
Only negative is that there is shellac that was splattered on the front.
Note to self:  don't shellac your bars while wearing fine woolen-goods.
Shellac spots are not really big or bright, but they're there and aren't
going to disappear.

Pix:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157622818019343/

$30 shipped in CONUS.  Priority given to local pick up (including the SoCal
Riv ride on the 13th!) for $25.  If you think that price is lame, drop me a
line and explain why in 1,000 words.  Double spaced with one inch margins,
please.

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Redlands, CA

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