[RBW] Re: Atlantis on the Great Divide Route?
> Admittedly it's been a few years since I've been in the South San
> Juans in Colorado (used to spend a lot of time there as an Outward
> Bound Instructor), but last I knew, bikes were not permitted on trails
> there.
That was the rule when I was there too. I will have to buy the maps,
but it seems maybe the GDR goes by, not through the wilderness area.
On Oct 30, 11:38 pm, "LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com"
wrote:
> Hi Joel,
>
> Admittedly it's been a few years since I've been in the South San
> Juans in Colorado (used to spend a lot of time there as an Outward
> Bound Instructor), but last I knew, bikes were not permitted on trails
> there. There are many 4-wheel drive access roads throughout the area
> though and one wouldn't miss out on too many beautiful areas there
> (though, of course, you can't get to it all on the 4-wheel drive
> roads).
>
> lyle...
>
> On Oct 30, 9:10 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Washboard. Miles and miles and miles of washboard'd dirt road. That's
> > > about the worst you'll see from the reports I've read. If you can handle
> > > that on a rigid bike, you're set.
>
> > I have not bought the maps yet, so cannot say for sure, but at least
> > the portion that goes through the San Juan wilderness area in Southern
> > Colorado as well as the wilderness areas in Northern New Mexico would
> > have to be trails. Unless there is a road by pass. But then you
> > would be missing arguably the most beautiful part of the trail (I have
> > not ridden, of course, but did hike the San Juans years ago. Cannot
> > imagine there are too many places that come close in scenic beauty).
>
> > On Oct 30, 7:45 am, "Frederick, Steve"
> > wrote:
>
> > > Dustin Sharp Sent:
>
> > > Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:05 PM
> > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis on the Great Divide Route?
>
> > > >Plenty of people have proved you can do it fully rigid...
> > > >...From the pics, it seems like most of the route is dirt road--not
> > > >gnarly
> > > >singletrack. That said, I'm sure there are a number of sections where
> > > >suspension would make the whole adventure a lot more comfortable...
>
> > > ---
> > > -
>
> > > Washboard. Miles and miles and miles of washboard'd dirt road. That's
> > > about the worst you'll see from the reports I've read. If you can handle
> > > that on a rigid bike, you're set.
>
> > > I just got my first custom bike, a 650b-wheeled, Softtail Curtlo. I
> > > think it'd be about perfect for the GDR (with a BOB trailer)
>
> > > It's not a Riv bike, but pics are here for the curious:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/
>
> > > Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
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[RBW] Re: Why have American Classic seatposts been overlooked by the RBW and BOBish crowd?
just wondering if there's a shim for the 26.8 size or if that is even advisable On Oct 30, 8:45 am, David Hallerman wrote: > I've had broken bolt problems with American Classic. The tilt angle > screw is tiny, and doesn't take much stress. > > In contrast, the absolute best seatpost for ease of changing tilt angle > was the Suntour XC Pro or Superbe Pro. > > Easy, as in it-takes-seconds, even with saddle bag attached -- since the > angle bolt is at the front of the clamp. > > Strong, since a separate bolt clamps the saddle rails and the tilt angle > bolt is a full-size bolt. > > Smart design, since the seatpost clamp mechanism is the same on all of > the Suntour posts, and can be switched around if needed. > > Heck, if I were to start manufacturing bike parts, I'd find out if that > clamp design was patented. If not, I would just duplicate. If yes, I'd > find out about buying or licensing the patent. Then, a smart marketer > could convince today's bike world that those are the best seatposts. > > Dave, who will buy any Suntour seatposts that you might have available > especially if 27.2 > > == > > Ken Yokanovich wrote: > > The older classic American Classic seat posts are a very simple > > product. I've owned several and still have one on one of my custom > > Rivendells. > > > Pros: simple, and easy to make very small changes in the tilt angle > > > Cons: The "plate" that the saddle rests on top of are prone to crack > > where the adjusting set screw sits. The top clamp is very small and > > does not clamp a large surface area of the rails. This has a tendency > > to loosen over time and I've experience one failure in a seat rail > > several years ago. (Admittedly on an off-road bike.) > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sugino Px on Atlantis
Hello- I run a TA cyclotouriste with 46-42-26 on my All-Rounder with 125+5 Phil BB. I probably have straighter chainstays than the Atlantis but if you use a 36 middle ring there will probably be enough clearance. The Phil BB retainers let you cheat it over a few more mm's, too. Cheers- Mike On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Andrew wrote: > > Does anybody here run a sugino PX on an atlantis? I would like to but > am not sure if it can clear the stays without a huge bottom bracket. I > would run a 46-36-26, do you think a Phil 118+5 or 121+5 would work? > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sugino Px on Atlantis
While this is no doubt true, I think sometimes folks can put a little too much emphasis on chainline, *especially* on a multispeed rig. Even on single speed setups, i'll normally just try to get the chainline reasonable, and then i don't worry about it. In my experience, chains last a long time maybe because they are good (like a KMC with riveted pins and beefy links) or because they are clean, well lubed, etc. On Oct 30, 10:46 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > If you clear the stays with a long BB, you will have poor chainline. > > On Oct 30, 9:36 pm, Andrew wrote: > > > Does anybody here run a sugino PX on an atlantis? I would like to but > > am not sure if it can clear the stays without a huge bottom bracket. I > > would run a 46-36-26, do you think a Phil 118+5 or 121+5 would work? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Complete bike for $1000?
I have not, but I can attest to the Townie (another model) that they make. Great, solid bike for the price. On Oct 30, 10:49 am, Weird Harold wrote: > Has anyone seen a Ticino up close? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Improper Messages
Hey All - I've seen a couple instances in the past couple weeks of spam-posts slipping into the list. They are reasonably offensive and I appreciate those members who have brought them to my attention quickly. As you may know, all posts from new members are moderated, so I'm supposed to see a copy of any email from them. Now, I will say that I do see and delete a fair number of these types of emails, but it appears that a few slip through. This one did not get stopped by the filter. When I brought up that user to ban them, they still showed as "Moderated". I've passed along the info to google, since it appears that there may be a way to jump stuff to the list, even though a member is moderated. I honestly don't expect a response, but will share it if I get one. Another switch I can flip is to require that all new members email for an invitation to join the group. If the instances of this increases, I may do that, which will have no effect on anyone already subscribed, but will add a step to those who are not. At this point, I don't really want to do that, but will if necessary. Anyway, thanks for your patience with this kind of stuff, and thank you for your contributions to the group. all the best, - Jim / list admin -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Anyone ever used this Extrawheel Trailer?
I've been curious about this trailer and finally decided to consult 'The Google' Here are some links I found informative: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=309338 http://rollingresistance.wordpress.com/2007/08/18/extrawheel/ http://familyonbikes.org/blog/?p=722 My conclusion from the information found via these links is that the trailer is pretty good, though less durable than a bob trailer. When I've pondered the Extrawheel I've been concerned about how the hitch would work. Seems like it is ok. -JimD On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Ray wrote: > > Here's the link. Looking for comments and/or suggestions. Please > don't bother referring me to any two-wheel trailers, and I already own > a BOB Yak. Looking at this maker quite seriously. Thank you > > http://www.extrawheel.com/en/3/voyager_trailer/ > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: Nitto Handlebars (3)
Hi, Three Nitto road handlebars for sale. Prices include Priority Mail shipping to CONUS. PayPal best way to pay. * Model 176 (called "Dream Bars" by Rivendell), size 44 cm (c-c), 26.0 mm clamp. Near new condition. Price = $40 * Model 176 (called "Dream Bars" by Rivendell), size 42 cm (c-c), 26.0 mm clamp. Excellent condition; some small scratches by clamp area. Price = $30 * Model Randonneur, classic flared bend, size 45 cm (at ends) and 40 cm (at brake clamps), 26.0 mm clamp. Very good to good condition; some scratches and what looks like shellac on part of bars that will be covered. Price = $25 If you need pix, or have questions, let me know. TFR, Dave, who finally has the right size boxes for shipping handlebars --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sccccratches
No one has offered the obligatory "Hemp Twine Whipping" solution yet? I have not applied this solution to my top tube, but it did serve admirably well as the chain slap protector on my Bleriot: http://flic.kr/p/5kwZQn. This was the short version. I subsequently removed and re-applied a longer whipping. On Oct 30, 3:27 pm, Richard wrote: > Waxing the frame with a quality wax product is supposed to help. > Depending on the paint, you might or might not be able to wax the > frame and fork right away. > > For example, Joe Bell recommended that I wait two to three months > before waxing Imron paint. You might want to wait up to six months > before waxing House of Kolor. > > On the other hand, Waterford recommends waxing their PPG painted > framesets right out of the box with a "soft" wax, and waxing again in > about three months with a "hard" wax. Independent Fabrication also > uses PPG and recommends a six-month wait before waxing. > > On Oct 29, 11:06 am, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > > I recently purchased a Green Sam Hillborne and love it. I've ridden > > it almost daily since August, a bit less lately due to the rain here > > in NYC..but on occasion I do lock it up securely outside when I'm > > shopping or whatever...Every time the bike leans against anything > > metal, or even plastic, i.e. a city bike rack, I get a serious deep > > scratch on the frame.. > > I'm certainly no worrier about nicks and scratches...but here's what I > > can't wrap my head around.. > > How is it that I have Japanese road bikes from the 80's , Maruishi, > > etc...that seem impenetrable to scratches and still look new, > > and my new $1000.00 Riv frame has literally dozens of scratches. Why > > is the Riv clear coat so useless? Did they forget to put it on? I > > love the bike, it's not the biggest deal in the world, but then again, > > I would expect more from them. Any thoughts? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] New Touring Frames from Bruce Gordon Cycles
I know they are not Rivendell's, but, I thought some people on the list might be interested. The New Taiwanese BLT's (Basic Loaded Touring) frames are in stock and ready for viewing at several shops: American Cyclery in San Francisco, CA Black Mountain Cycles in Point Reyes Station, CA The Bicycle Habitat in New York City Velo Classique in Purcellville, VA The Bisbee Bicycle Brothel in Bisbee, AZ Check them out in person if you can - or check them out on the "Interweb" or on our "Blog" - http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/ I welcome your comments. Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Improper Messages
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 3:24 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > Hey All - > > I've seen a couple instances in the past couple weeks of spam-posts slipping > into the list. They are reasonably offensive and I appreciate those members > who have brought them to my attention quickly. > > As you may know, all posts from new members are moderated, so I'm supposed > to see a copy of any email from them. Now, I will say that I do see and > delete a fair number of these types of emails, but it appears that a few > slip through. This one did not get stopped by the filter. When I brought up > that user to ban them, they still showed as "Moderated". > > I've passed along the info to google, since it appears that there may be a > way to jump stuff to the list, even though a member is moderated. I honestly > don't expect a response, but will share it if I get one. > > Another switch I can flip is to require that all new members email for an > invitation to join the group. If the instances of this increases, I may do > that, which will have no effect on anyone already subscribed, but will add a > step to those who are not. At this point, I don't really want to do that, > but will if necessary. > > Anyway, thanks for your patience with this kind of stuff, and thank you for > your contributions to the group. > > all the best, > Jim, Thank you for keeping it sane in here. I very much appreciate it. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Improper Messages
I also appreciate all the work you do, Jim. Sounds like this is becoming a common issue through Gogole groups recently. (Noticed a similar thread on the Surly LHT and CC list). Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 31, 4:57�pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 3:24 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > > Hey All - > > > I've seen a couple instances in the past couple weeks of spam-posts slipping > > into the list. �They are reasonably offensive and I appreciate those members > > who have brought them to my attention quickly. > > > As you may know, all posts from new members are moderated, so I'm supposed > > to see a copy of any email from them. �Now, I will say that I do see and > > delete a fair number of these types of emails, but it appears that a few > > slip through. This one did not get stopped by the filter. �When I brought up > > that user to ban them, they still showed as "Moderated". > > > I've passed along the info to google, since it appears that there may be a > > way to jump stuff to the list, even though a member is moderated. I honestly > > don't expect a response, but will share it if I get one. > > > Another switch I can flip is to require that all new members email for an > > invitation to join the group. �If the instances of this increases, I may do > > that, which will have no effect on anyone already subscribed, but will add a > > step to those who are not. �At this point, I don't really want to do that, > > but will if necessary. > > > Anyway, thanks for your patience with this kind of stuff, and thank you for > > your contributions to the group. > > > all the best, > > Jim, > �Thank you for keeping it sane in here. I very much appreciate it. > > -sv- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe bags
All bags have been sold. Thanks to all and I hope you enjoy the bags! Regards. On Oct 30, 6:50 pm, kaseri wrote: > For those of you wanting a tweed Nigel Smythe Lil Loafer I have one > for sale. It is this years tweed #305 and has never been used. I am > dropping the price to $70 shipped! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: New Touring Frames from Bruce Gordon Cycles
Is Bruce Gordon's hijacking of this string to promote his own bikes an example of spam-posting or what? On Oct 31, 5:20 pm, "Bruce Gordon" wrote: > I know they are not Rivendell's, but, I thought some people on the list > might be interested. > > The New Taiwanese BLT's (Basic Loaded Touring) frames are in stock and ready > for viewing at several shops: > > American Cyclery in San Francisco, CA > Black Mountain Cycles in Point Reyes Station, CA > The Bicycle Habitat in New York City > Velo Classique in Purcellville, VA > The Bisbee Bicycle Brothel in Bisbee, AZ > > Check them out in person if you can - or check them out on the "Interweb" or > on our "Blog" -http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/ > > I welcome your comments. > Regards, > Bruce Gordonwww.bgcycles.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Improper Messages
Whoops, subject got changed by accident. Here it is corrected. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Trade my Carradice Pendle bag for your Axiom Monsoon panniers??
I suppose the subject says it allbut here is the fine print: I have an as new Olive Carradice Pendle bag (@ 11ltr capacity) that I picked up to use on my incoming Bombadil due any day. I have been using a Barley on my Bleriot and love it but wanted a bit bigger size for the Bomba. Well, I have decided I want to run panniers instead. Specifically the Axiom Monsoons. I thought I would post up here before doing a sell/buy thing. So what say the owners of Rivendells? Anyone want to trade? We can swap pictures and all that. I am located in Colorado. Thanks, Brad hbclick at yahoo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: New Touring Frames from Bruce Gordon Cycles
> Is Bruce Gordon's hijacking of this string to promote his own bikes an > example of spam-posting or what? Actually, after all the Surly threads we have had here of late, I kind of find it refreshing. Much like Riv, BG runs a small operation based around his vision of what a certain kind of bike should be. Surly is a division of a large corporation with an guerilla marketing campaign that somewhat cynically suggests buying one is sticking it to the man. On Oct 31, 7:00 pm, R Gonet wrote: > Is Bruce Gordon's hijacking of this string to promote his own bikes an > example of spam-posting or what? > > On Oct 31, 5:20 pm, "Bruce Gordon" wrote: > > > > > I know they are not Rivendell's, but, I thought some people on the list > > might be interested. > > > The New Taiwanese BLT's (Basic Loaded Touring) frames are in stock and ready > > for viewing at several shops: > > > American Cyclery in San Francisco, CA > > Black Mountain Cycles in Point Reyes Station, CA > > The Bicycle Habitat in New York City > > Velo Classique in Purcellville, VA > > The Bisbee Bicycle Brothel in Bisbee, AZ > > > Check them out in person if you can - or check them out on the "Interweb" or > > on our "Blog" -http://brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/ > > > I welcome your comments. > > Regards, > > Bruce Gordonwww.bgcycles.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: New Touring Frames from Bruce Gordon Cycles
> Actually, after all the Surly threads we have had here of late, I kind > of find it refreshing. Much like Riv, BG runs a small operation based > around his vision of what a certain kind of bike should be. Surly is > a division of a large corporation with an guerilla marketing campaign > that somewhat cynically suggests buying one is sticking it to the man. > I don't have anything against BG or Surly - like 'em both - but I was just commenting on Gordon's blatant hijacking of the spam string to promote his own products on the RBW forum. I liked your comment about Surly's marketing campaign. I never thought about it but it's true. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: New Touring Frames from Bruce Gordon Cycles
> but I was just commenting on Gordon's blatant hijacking of the spam string to > promote his own products on the RBW forum. I suspect that might not be quite so blatant but rather more a craftsman born, shall we say, somewhat before the digital era, at work. I don't get all Surlys, but there are some such as the LHT, which appear to be good values. Surly is not the only large company trying to come off as having 'street cred.' People who ought to know better seem to fall for it more with Surly. Not sure why that is. On the other hand, our very own GP has been markedly consistent over the years yet is blamed for all sorts of sneaky behavior. Oh well. No one said life is fair. On Oct 31, 7:59 pm, R Gonet wrote: > > Actually, after all the Surly threads we have had here of late, I kind > > of find it refreshing. Much like Riv, BG runs a small operation based > > around his vision of what a certain kind of bike should be. Surly is > > a division of a large corporation with an guerilla marketing campaign > > that somewhat cynically suggests buying one is sticking it to the man. > > I don't have anything against BG or Surly - like 'em both - but I was > just commenting on Gordon's blatant hijacking of the spam string to > promote his own products on the RBW forum. > > I liked your comment about Surly's marketing campaign. I never > thought about it but it's true. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Atlantis on the Great Divide Route?
Somewhat on topic - just finished reading a decent Outside article
(probably great by most current bicycle journalist standards - but no
where near the quality of Outside writing ten years ago) about riding
across the Scottish highlands. Sounds like that would be a great
ride, and most likely a worthy challenge for the Atlantis or Bombadil.
On Oct 31, 6:39 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > Admittedly it's been a few years since I've been in the South San
> > Juans in Colorado (used to spend a lot of time there as an Outward
> > Bound Instructor), but last I knew, bikes were not permitted on trails
> > there.
>
> That was the rule when I was there too. I will have to buy the maps,
> but it seems maybe the GDR goes by, not through the wilderness area.
>
> On Oct 30, 11:38 pm, "LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com"
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Joel,
>
> > Admittedly it's been a few years since I've been in the South San
> > Juans in Colorado (used to spend a lot of time there as an Outward
> > Bound Instructor), but last I knew, bikes were not permitted on trails
> > there. There are many 4-wheel drive access roads throughout the area
> > though and one wouldn't miss out on too many beautiful areas there
> > (though, of course, you can't get to it all on the 4-wheel drive
> > roads).
>
> > lyle...
>
> > On Oct 30, 9:10 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> > > > Washboard. Miles and miles and miles of washboard'd dirt road. That's
> > > > about the worst you'll see from the reports I've read. If you can
> > > > handle that on a rigid bike, you're set.
>
> > > I have not bought the maps yet, so cannot say for sure, but at least
> > > the portion that goes through the San Juan wilderness area in Southern
> > > Colorado as well as the wilderness areas in Northern New Mexico would
> > > have to be trails. Unless there is a road by pass. But then you
> > > would be missing arguably the most beautiful part of the trail (I have
> > > not ridden, of course, but did hike the San Juans years ago. Cannot
> > > imagine there are too many places that come close in scenic beauty).
>
> > > On Oct 30, 7:45 am, "Frederick, Steve"
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Dustin Sharp Sent:
>
> > > > Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:05 PM
> > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis on the Great Divide Route?
>
> > > > >Plenty of people have proved you can do it fully rigid...
> > > > >...From the pics, it seems like most of the route is dirt road--not
> > > > >gnarly
> > > > >singletrack. That said, I'm sure there are a number of sections where
> > > > >suspension would make the whole adventure a lot more comfortable...
>
> > > > ---
> > > > -
>
> > > > Washboard. Miles and miles and miles of washboard'd dirt road. That's
> > > > about the worst you'll see from the reports I've read. If you can
> > > > handle that on a rigid bike, you're set.
>
> > > > I just got my first custom bike, a 650b-wheeled, Softtail Curtlo. I
> > > > think it'd be about perfect for the GDR (with a BOB trailer)
>
> > > > It's not a Riv bike, but pics are here for the curious:
>
> > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/
>
> > > > Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
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[RBW] FS: Ritchey Pro Cranks
These are NOS (in the box). Crank length is 172.5 mm. Chainrings are 52/39. Pictures here: http://picasaweb.google.com/Ernfast/RitcheyCranks# $50 shipped. Or best offer. Thank you, Corwin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sccccratches
I keep a bandana tied around my stem. When I park my bicycle the bandana gets tied to my frame where contact with the object I'm locked to occurs. This keeps my frame scratch free and most of all gives me peace of mind. On hot days the bandana works wonderfully to wipe my brow with. Regards. On Oct 31, 3:51 pm, Kelt wrote: > No one has offered the obligatory "Hemp Twine Whipping" solution yet? > > I have not applied this solution to my top tube, but it did serve > admirably well as the chain slap protector on my > Bleriot:http://flic.kr/p/5kwZQn. > This was the short version. I subsequently removed and re-applied a > longer whipping. > > On Oct 30, 3:27 pm, Richard wrote: > > > > > Waxing the frame with a quality wax product is supposed to help. > > Depending on the paint, you might or might not be able to wax the > > frame and fork right away. > > > For example, Joe Bell recommended that I wait two to three months > > before waxing Imron paint. You might want to wait up to six months > > before waxing House of Kolor. > > > On the other hand, Waterford recommends waxing their PPG painted > > framesets right out of the box with a "soft" wax, and waxing again in > > about three months with a "hard" wax. Independent Fabrication also > > uses PPG and recommends a six-month wait before waxing. > > > On Oct 29, 11:06 am, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > > > I recently purchased a Green Sam Hillborne and love it. I've ridden > > > it almost daily since August, a bit less lately due to the rain here > > > in NYC..but on occasion I do lock it up securely outside when I'm > > > shopping or whatever...Every time the bike leans against anything > > > metal, or even plastic, i.e. a city bike rack, I get a serious deep > > > scratch on the frame.. > > > I'm certainly no worrier about nicks and scratches...but here's what I > > > can't wrap my head around.. > > > How is it that I have Japanese road bikes from the 80's , Maruishi, > > > etc...that seem impenetrable to scratches and still look new, > > > and my new $1000.00 Riv frame has literally dozens of scratches. Why > > > is the Riv clear coat so useless? Did they forget to put it on? I > > > love the bike, it's not the biggest deal in the world, but then again, > > > I would expect more from them. Any thoughts? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: New Touring Frames from Bruce Gordon Cycles
on 10/31/09 4:00 PM, R Gonet at richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote: > Is Bruce Gordon's hijacking of this string to promote his own bikes an > example of spam-posting or what? No. If you access this group via email, it would seem to be a simple thing to delete a Subject line to start a new thread. However, it does not start a new thread thread on the web interface, so what may have been a good-intentioned act to start a new thread may not appear that way to those accessing via the web. I'm inclined to give Bruce the benefit of the doubt. There have been a few discussions of non-Riv models recently, which I think is not particularly helpful to the specificity of this list. Bruce's post was clearly labeled, and I find it to be the equivilent of anyone posting a non-Riv product to the list. Honestly, given his position in terms of active frame builders who were doing it before a good many of us were born (or at least actively cycling), I have a hard time coming down on him posting - my personal opinion is that I would like to see him be financially successful as a framebuilder. He's earned that in my book. On the other hand, this list is about Rivendell products, and I think a number of us are guilty of diverging from that, particularly in the last month or two. Happy Halloween! - Jim / list admin -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Why have American Classic seatposts been overlooked by the RBW and BOBish crowd?
on 10/31/09 5:56 AM, clevewh...@gmail.com at clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: > just wondering if there's a shim for the 26.8 size or if that is even > advisable As a general statement, shimming a seatpost is pretty trouble-free. Most shops can order a variety of thicknesses pretty easily, if they don't have them in stock. -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty." -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Saddlesack-small
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[RBW] Re: Why have American Classic seatposts been overlooked by the RBW and BOBish crowd?
On Oct 28, 8:07 pm, Mojo wrote: > I distinctly remember Grant sending out an email a few years back > saying the sharp edges of seatposts like the A/C would void the > warranty of broken Brooks rails. At least that is how I remember it. > Me, being the reckless daredevil adrenalin junkie that I am, have kept > my 80s era A/C post on my Quickbeam with a B17 bolted to it. So far so > good. > Wow, I've got to be careful with what I say. You remember well, though. Back then, and I think it was ore than a few years ago, we saw three or four broken rails in a few months time, and each rider had an AC post. It may have been a coincidence, but what you want in a seat post (one of the things) is a longish rail support area, to minimize the rocking that causes fatigue and failure (fatigue failure!). Another is radiused edges to soften the bite. Brooks saddles used to have a lifetime guarantee, but that's like Anderson offering a lifetie guarantee on its windows. The saddle or window breaks, the culprit (seat post, seat post adjustment, abusive riding, a rock, a baseball, a bullet) always skates. Brooks had people getting new saddles after five, ten, twenty years. Campagnolo pre-1985 or so replaced broken parts that were twenty years old. I remember friends of mine thinking Wow Good Deal, twelve years of hard use (in those days people bought a part and used it till it broke, because there was no upgrading from Campy), and they'd start anew again. That lead to ungrooved and uningraved cranks with no lifetime warranty. NITTO doesn't make the only good seat posts, by far, but if YOU (plural) knew Mr. Y like I do, and for as long as I have, you'd stick with NITTO posts. He's really nice, really conscientious, tests everything, and lost about 90 percent of his business after the Yen was devalued in 1985. Slightly off-topic, but if the topic is testing in general, NITTO conducts its own in-house tests that far exceed the standards of any outside testing organization (CPSC, JIS, DIN, EN). That doesn't mean that nothing NITTO makes breaks, but the only NITTO post I've seen that broke .. was a broken bolt, and bolts, even good ones, can break like windows under the right circumstance. NITTO's conservatism doesn't always help it. It means the parts weigh more than the lightest equivalents, but NITTO tests many of the competitor's parts, and gram for gram, NITTO's are stronger. (NITTO does not publish these tests, but does it for its own education, and we know of it only because over the years we've asked, "Hey, the XYZ widget weights 80g less than yours, and you're so good, so why can't you make one that light?" And the answer is always, "It won't pass our tests." Last thing, sorry it's so long: We don't list the NITTO's weight limits for its racks because they're too unimpressive.(Warning to enemies: No fair quoting that out of context.) They're unimpressive because Nitto tests a rack to its breaking point, and then divides by ten to get the "weight limit." Halloween night here, watching the World Series, handing out Halloween treats. Two bowls. One with normal candy, the other with in-the-shell walnuts, Brazil nuts, and almonds. These kids have never even seen nuts in the shell. They don't know what they are. O'er and out.. G --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Atlantis 58cm For Sale on eBay
Nice looking ride, with shellacked Noodles, a Carradice Barley, and Nitto cages thrown in. See http://j.mp/2f7ohK --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
