[RBW] Twin Cities members: Experience with painters
I know there are quite a few TC members on this list, so pardon the slightly off topic post. I'm considering having my '78 Centurion Pro Tour repainted. My only local experience is with Bob Brown, who's not doing just-paint work at the moment. Any other suggestions? Thanks, Andrew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Twin Cities members: Experience with painters
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Andrew Karre wrote: > > I know there are quite a few TC members on this list, so pardon the > slightly off topic post. I'm considering having my '78 Centurion Pro > Tour repainted. My only local experience is with Bob Brown, who's not > doing just-paint work at the moment. Any other suggestions? Curt Goodrich (to make a Riv connection) is painting now, but i don't know if he's doing straight repaints, or only his own work. You could also try Chris Kvale, who does quite a bit of painting - he finally has a website up here: http://www.chriskvalecycles.com I also have a little page of TC-area framebuilders on my blog with some other possible options: http://wjc.fidean.net/log/twin-cities-area-custom-framebuilders/ -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Happily Pedaling Free (finally)
I'm heading out on a ride in an hour. Perhaps I'll change the pedals... On Aug 18, 5:47 pm, Bruce wrote: > Cue aqualung sounds... > > Luke, I am your father... > > > From: Mike > > How long before I abandon my bib shorts and Sidi shoes altogether? > > --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Twin Cities members: Experience with painters
On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Andrew Karre wrote: > > I know there are quite a few TC members on this list, so pardon the > slightly off topic post. I'm considering having my '78 Centurion Pro > Tour repainted. My only local experience is with Bob Brown, who's not > doing just-paint work at the moment. Any other suggestions? Chris Kvale does superb frame re-painting and, if he can get the decals, excellent decal work. My friend Doug just had his Bottechia repainted by Chris and it is simply gorgeous. Chris is spendy, though- I think Doug's frame repaint cost him about $400. OTOH, Chris is the dean of Twin Cities frame builders. An attractive alternative is powder coating. The Hiawatha boys have experience with both local and out-of-town powder coaters (including a bike of Kevin's that was powder coated yellow with white lugs). Powder coat looks really good these days, is better environmentally (fewer volatiles) and is tougher and longer lasting as a finish. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Twin Cities members: Experience with painters
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > An attractive alternative is powder coating. The Hiawatha boys have > experience with both local and out-of-town powder coaters (including > a bike of Kevin's that was powder coated yellow with white lugs). > Powder coat looks really good these days, is better environmentally > (fewer volatiles) and is tougher and longer lasting as a finish. I'll add that Kevin's yellow and white powdercoated bike is a custom Goodrich, and it's beautiful. I'm pretty sure he had it done at Spectrum (non-local). -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Palo Alto Bicycles: Cycling the Alps, the Jobst Brandt Photos
Hey Rick, I have a question. When you travel (fly) to a location to do touring, especially if it would be to the Alps or some other European location how do you handle transporting your bike and/or other equipment? I am a novice to touring and especially to this type of touring. Any info you can give me or direct me to would be appreciated. Cheers, Don On Aug 18, 10:50 am, Rick wrote: > Some remarkable pictures, obviously some audacious climbs (Gavia, > among others). Marginally on-topic (Riv sells Jobst's book "The > Bicycle Wheel"), rewarding regardless. > > http://www.paloaltobicycles.com/alps_photos.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: great looking front bag
So who is this gal and when is she going into business? On Aug 18, 6:43 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > Saw this on one of the flickr people I > follow:http://www.flickr.com/photos/shortpants51/383284/ > > Just a stunning, and quite large, front bag made from wool and canvas. > > Riv related-content: wool/canvas bag and the maker is the significant > other of a frame builder who used to work for waterford. > > -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Twin Cities members: Experience with painters
I have a Chris Kvale, excellent fellow to deal with. Great bike, excellent paint. Scott Goldsmith Cincinnati, Ohio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: great looking front bag
I believe Amber and Brad of Capricorn bikes are partners in the biz and life. As I recall, Amber has made some Capricorn hats and stuff in the past. Brad is a great young frame builder. Appears as though the Capricorn household may have a great young young bike bag maker as well. Perhaps Riv might one day be looking to sign Brad on as a custom builder and Amber as a source for high end bags? On Aug 19, 1:17 pm, clevewheel wrote: > So who is this gal and when is she going into business? > > On Aug 18, 6:43 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > Saw this on one of the flickr people I > > follow:http://www.flickr.com/photos/shortpants51/383284/ > > > Just a stunning, and quite large, front bag made from wool and canvas. > > > Riv related-content: wool/canvas bag and the maker is the significant > > other of a frame builder who used to work for waterford. > > > -sv- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Anyone ever do a cross state tour on a quickbeam
One key aspect that has not been mentioned is the social aspect of the ride. Keep in mind that this is a non-competitive group ride with lots and lots of friendly people. If you have any inkling to be social during the ride, or participate in the small groups that naturally form, you might miss out on a single speed. In other words, having ridden the CNC Fall ride and owned a Quickbeam myself, sure you can ride the QB across NC, but you might spend a lot of time riding by yourself. This may or may not be of concern, but I thought it was worth mentioning. Just my two cents, Bryan On Aug 18, 7:03 pm, cm wrote: > Now you have to do it.. you are already imaging the ride, the > conversations, the finish. If you use another bike now, you will spend > the whole ride wondering about/ wishing for the QB. You've destroyed > your chance of happiness on another bike. > > But yeah, I think you have rocks in your head. > > Cheers! > cm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hi from Chicago
Rob, great links, thanks! I think I'll try these myself! Joe, good to see you here! (First thought when I saw your reply: "Hey Joe, where you goin' with that 'beam in your hand?" I have no idea why.) I'm planning on doing the annual Perimeter ride on Saturday, quite possibly on my Quickbeam (http://www.thechainlink.org/events/perimeter- ride) Take care, everyone. Terry On Aug 18, 9:08 am, Rob Sindelar wrote: > On Aug 17, 4:55 am, mitchelr wrote: > > > Terry and Rocky and the rest of Chicago's Rivfolk: > > > Glad to hear there is Riv interest in that great city of yours. My > > partner and I will be dawdling up from Saint Louis early next month, I > > on my trusty Atlantis and she on her Trek. Coming from Joliet we are > > not sure of the best strategy for getting to downtown and Union > > Station - suggestions appreciated. > > Rich, > I've lead a few club rides from the city out to the far SW burbs and > back. While it's not the most bike friendly place, it is certainly > doable by bike. > > Someone has already prepared a cue sheet for you to ride from Joliet > (well actually from the MIssissippi River) to Chicago. The League of > Illinois Bicyclists has a Route 66 Tour later this month. > See:http://www.bikelib.org/route66/2009ride > > You'll find the south-to-north cue sheet > here:http://www.bikelib.org/route66/northbound.pdf > This route takes you right past Union Station. There route is not as > direct as I would ride, but probably more friendly. Personally, I > would just stay on Ogden Ave. once I'm in the city all the way to > Jackson Blvd. But I'm a bit of a hard-core bike in the city, don't > really mind traffic, kind of guy. > > If you are going to be in Chicago over a weekend, check out the > Chicago Cycling Club schedule and come join us for a > ride.http://chicagocyclingclub.org > > Sunday September 13th is the Boulevard Lakefront Tour, a 15, 27, 35 or > 62 mile tour of the city. It benefits our local bike advocacy group, > ActiveTrans. If you are in town, it is definitely worth checking out. > I'll be driving SAG for the 27 & 62 mile routes. http://www.boulevardtour.org > > Happy riding and enjoy your trip to Chicago! > > - Rob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Palo Alto Bicycles: Cycling the Alps, the Jobst Brandt Photos
On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Don wrote: > On Aug 18, 10:50 am, Rick wrote: >> Some remarkable pictures, obviously some audacious climbs (Gavia, >> among others). Marginally on-topic (Riv sells Jobst's book "The >> Bicycle Wheel"), rewarding regardless. >> >> http://www.paloaltobicycles.com/alps_photos.htmlHey Rick, > I have a question. When you travel (fly) to a location to do touring, > especially if it would be to the Alps or some other European location > how do you handle transporting your bike and/or other equipment? I am > a novice to touring and especially to this type of touring. Any info > you can give me or direct me to would be appreciated. There are many ways to do this. Jobst has posted many articles about his tours in the Alps and has discussed his particular method (which was for years to partially disassemble and wrap the bike in Visqueen). http://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html There are many other sources for information that you can easily find with Google. One great resource is: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com Look down the left column for "Bags & Packing." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Palo Alto Bicycles: Cycling the Alps, the Jobst Brandt Photos
I'd have to defer to Tim and his sources, as I've yet to travel much with my own bike, and never overseas (or yet to ride in the alps, for that matter -- I just thought the photos were amazing). I agree that the crazyguyonabike is a good source. There's some info also from folks at these sites, much from personal experiences: http://www.backintheworld.com/ http://sunset.spiralcage.com/?p=100 http://www.adventurecycling.org/ The last of which has this resource: http://www.adventurecycling.org/library/ Rick. On Aug 19, 6:58 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: > On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Don wrote: > > > On Aug 18, 10:50 am, Rick wrote: > >> Some remarkable pictures, obviously some audacious climbs (Gavia, > >> among others). Marginally on-topic (Riv sells Jobst's book "The > >> Bicycle Wheel"), rewarding regardless. > > >>http://www.paloaltobicycles.com/alps_photos.htmlHeyRick, > > I have a question. When you travel (fly) to a location to do touring, > > especially if it would be to the Alps or some other European location > > how do you handle transporting your bike and/or other equipment? I am > > a novice to touring and especially to this type of touring. Any info > > you can give me or direct me to would be appreciated. > > There are many ways to do this. Jobst has posted many articles about > his tours in the Alps and has discussed his particular method (which > was for years to partially disassemble and wrap the bike in Visqueen). > > http://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html > > There are many other sources for information that you can easily find > with Google. One great resource is: > > http://www.crazyguyonabike.com > > Look down the left column for "Bags & Packing." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring 101 and beyond
There's a pretty good Krebs map for the wine country area called 'North San Francisco Bay & Wine Country Bicycle Touring Map'. That would give you a really great start. For other places and routes, I would take a look at the Adventure cycling maps. The maps are pricey but I think you can download waypoints for their routes for free. As far as transporting your bike, you can bring it on the plane with you (taken apart and packed in a bike box) for some extra cost depending on the airline, or you could ship it to an address via fedex or usps. Flying in to SFO, taking BART into the city, and then riding north from there could make for a great trip. On Aug 19, 5:17 pm, Don wrote: > I am not new to biking but I am new to touring. I've got the bike/s > (Sam Hillborne, Myata 610) and most of the basics. I also have a > handle on touring within my state (Florida). But I need some help with > planning some tours in other parts of the USA and overseas. I have > some (probably dumb) questions about how one transports their bike to > other distant locations and how one get a good guide for some of these > tours. For example, after Easter I will have a week and my wife and I > want to head to Northern California and do some touring that would > take in the wine country and surrounding area. I don't really want to > book a guided tour with rented bikes etc. Now maybe to start that is > absolutely the best way to go. But all of the ones I have seen are > very pricey and extremely structured to the group. Being new to this > group I just figured I would lay it out there and see what information > I might be able to gather. I am sure that there are various websites > or other resources I could be directed to. I am not sure if this is OK > but I will give you my email address so that if any want to send me > stuff they can. Thanks in advance for any help you might give. > Cheers, > Don > donl...@bellsouth.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Anyone ever do a cross state tour on a quickbeam
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:24 PM, johnb wrote: > > Thoughts on gearing? I have a 20 and 22-tooth freewheel in back; > standard set-up in front. > > On Aug 17, 10:53 am, Bill Connell wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM, johnb wrote: > > > > > I am thnking about cycle across NC on it. Might have rocks in my head. > > Do let us know how it goes, and what your gearing was, and how it worked. I ride all fixed all the time (except off road where it is ss) but mostly shortish urban and suburban routes. I've toyed with the idea of longer and loaded rides fixed, and I've thought that, if I undertook such a ride, I'd want a double ring and double cog setup, so that I could get, say, a 67 or 70 " cruising gear from, say, a 44X18 or 17, and have a bailout gear from a 38X24 or 43" or 36X23 or 42" gear. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Touring 101 and beyond
I am not new to biking but I am new to touring. I've got the bike/s (Sam Hillborne, Myata 610) and most of the basics. I also have a handle on touring within my state (Florida). But I need some help with planning some tours in other parts of the USA and overseas. I have some (probably dumb) questions about how one transports their bike to other distant locations and how one get a good guide for some of these tours. For example, after Easter I will have a week and my wife and I want to head to Northern California and do some touring that would take in the wine country and surrounding area. I don't really want to book a guided tour with rented bikes etc. Now maybe to start that is absolutely the best way to go. But all of the ones I have seen are very pricey and extremely structured to the group. Being new to this group I just figured I would lay it out there and see what information I might be able to gather. I am sure that there are various websites or other resources I could be directed to. I am not sure if this is OK but I will give you my email address so that if any want to send me stuff they can. Thanks in advance for any help you might give. Cheers, Don donl...@bellsouth.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Anyone ever do a cross state tour on a quickbeam
This is an interesting thread. I just today took my Quickbeam in for a re-gearing prior to a ride I am planning in mountainous country. I requested that she be rigged up in a manner similar to the combination suggested by Dave Craig. Box Dog Bikes in San Francisco is going to do the job. I had to make an appointment two weeks out because parts needed to be ordered, but once I get the bike there and back, I'll report again. I currently have the stock chain wheels up front, and run a White Industries 18/16 duo freewheel on the rear, with a White Ind. 20 free on the flip side. This combination has suited my riding style very well over the last few years, and I rarely flip into the 20 tooth, and almost as rarely hang the chain over the rear 16. I'd say that 80% of my QB riding here and in Marin and the peninsula is done in the 40x18. For the trip I have planned I know that I will need lower gears, so I ordered a 34/26 set for chain rings, and am switching out the White Industries 20 tooth for a 22, which is the part on order. I am going lightly loaded with rear panniers only, MKS touring pedals and PowerGrip straps attached thereto, no fenders, and a set of new Jack Brown blue labels. I'm looking forward to the trip. I know how much climbing I will have in Nevada, and likewise know how slow I'll be on the straight and levels, such as they are. Anyway, I was originally planning on riding this trip on my Romulus, but decided to try it on the QB instead. I just hope the weather holds. I'll keep everyone posted… Ray --- On Wed, 8/19/09, PATRICK MOORE wrote: From: PATRICK MOORE Subject: [RBW] Re: Anyone ever do a cross state tour on a quickbeam To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 5:43 PM On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:24 PM, johnb wrote: Thoughts on gearing? I have a 20 and 22-tooth freewheel in back; standard set-up in front. On Aug 17, 10:53 am, Bill Connell wrote: > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM, johnb wrote: > > > I am thnking about cycle across NC on it. Might have rocks in my head. > Do let us know how it goes, and what your gearing was, and how it worked. I ride all fixed all the time (except off road where it is ss) but mostly shortish urban and suburban routes. I've toyed with the idea of longer and loaded rides fixed, and I've thought that, if I undertook such a ride, I'd want a double ring and double cog setup, so that I could get, say, a 67 or 70 " cruising gear from, say, a 44X18 or 17, and have a bailout gear from a 38X24 or 43" or 36X23 or 42" gear. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring 101 and beyond
My girlfriend and I had great success by doing a bit of looking at some routes Bikely and then just setting out on our bikes. We started in SF, went up to Vallejo from Napa to Sonoma through wine country, then and over to Tamales via Petaluma, then back down the coast again. Along the way, we used a combination of Google Maps on my phone and advice from local bike shops. The only part of it that was NOT that great way 121 from Napa to Sonoma (a designated bike route). There's some construction going on that closed the shoulder and the weekend traffic was quite aggressive. A local told us that going along the bay and up to Sonoma is a better route – though I bet on a weekday it would have been fine. I wouldn't worry too much about planning everything out. Carry maps, ask some locals, have a rough idea but generally go where you want each day - and you should be just fine. wc. On Aug 19, 5:28 pm, alexander wrote: > There's a pretty good Krebs map for the wine country area called > 'North San Francisco Bay & Wine Country Bicycle Touring Map'. That > would give you a really great start. For other places and routes, I > would take a look at the Adventure cycling maps. The maps are pricey > but I think you can download waypoints for their routes for free. > > As far as transporting your bike, you can bring it on the plane with > you (taken apart and packed in a bike box) for some extra cost > depending on the airline, or you could ship it to an address via fedex > or usps. Flying in to SFO, taking BART into the city, and then riding > north from there could make for a great trip. > > On Aug 19, 5:17 pm, Don wrote: > > > > > I am not new to biking but I am new to touring. I've got the bike/s > > (Sam Hillborne, Myata 610) and most of the basics. I also have a > > handle on touring within my state (Florida). But I need some help with > > planning some tours in other parts of the USA and overseas. I have > > some (probably dumb) questions about how one transports their bike to > > other distant locations and how one get a good guide for some of these > > tours. For example, after Easter I will have a week and my wife and I > > want to head to Northern California and do some touring that would > > take in the wine country and surrounding area. I don't really want to > > book a guided tour with rented bikes etc. Now maybe to start that is > > absolutely the best way to go. But all of the ones I have seen are > > very pricey and extremely structured to the group. Being new to this > > group I just figured I would lay it out there and see what information > > I might be able to gather. I am sure that there are various websites > > or other resources I could be directed to. I am not sure if this is OK > > but I will give you my email address so that if any want to send me > > stuff they can. Thanks in advance for any help you might give. > > Cheers, > > Don > > donl...@bellsouth.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Twin Cities members: Experience with painters
On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Bill Connell wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Tim McNamara > wrote: >> An attractive alternative is powder coating. The Hiawatha boys have >> experience with both local and out-of-town powder coaters (including >> a bike of Kevin's that was powder coated yellow with white lugs). >> Powder coat looks really good these days, is better environmentally >> (fewer volatiles) and is tougher and longer lasting as a finish. > > > I'll add that Kevin's yellow and white powdercoated bike is a custom > Goodrich, and it's beautiful. I'm pretty sure he had it done at > Spectrum (non-local). I think you are right on all counts. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] WTB: 46cm Nitto Noodle Handlebars
Anyone have a 46cm Nitto Noodle Handlebar they want to get rid of? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Homer on tour
I just did a ~1500 mile loop up the pacific coast and around the olympic peninsula on a fully loaded AHH and I thought it did really well. I too experienced a little bit of a wobble on a couple occasions but I found that it was just indication that I had weight improperly placed and distributed. At one time, I had too much weight (firewood) high up above my rear panniers and on another I had too much weight on the front portion of the shelf of my front rack (in front of the axle). Keeping things down low and well distributed yielded a great handling bike that even did well on unpaved, rocky trails. I'm about to head east from Portland OR to new york and I wouldn't hesitate to tour anywhere on the homer hilsen.. except maybe down the entire length of the Great Divide. Note that I'm a fairly light rider at around 145lbs with gear that probably never exceeds 45lbs On Aug 17, 1:10 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > Mike - how much weight on the Hilsen? Was it wobbly in specific > situations? Interested in more detail as I'll be doing this sort of thing > with a Hilsen. BTW - great trip photos. Looks like it was a great time! > > Brian > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mike wrote: > > > Yesterday my friend Dylan and I finished up 8 days of cyclotouring > > through WA and OR. We managed to roll through portions of Gifford > > Pinchot NF, Mt Hood NF, Deschutes NF and the Willamette NF. We totally > > veered from our planned route which would have kept us in and around > > the GPNF but due to poor weather we changed plans and headed south. > > The hight point of the trip was day 6 when we took back roads from > > Madras to just below the summit of McKenzie Pass. I had been wanting > > to climb the pass ever since moving to OR and was not disappointed. We > > stayed at a beautiful and serene campground--Lava Lake. The next day > > we got on the road at 7am and summited McKenzie Pass where we had epic > > vies of the surround mountains and lava fields from the Dee Wright > > Observatory. > > > My Hilsen handled well although next time I tour like this I'll be on > > a dedicated touring bike. At times the Hilsen felt a little too > > noodly. I was absolutely floored by the performance of my Schwalbe > > Marathons (700x41)--they were great. I expected them to feel dead but > > they were fine. > > > We averaged like 82 miles a day. Our shortest day was like 65 miles > > and the longest 107. I can't wait until the next tour. Although we had > > poor weather which was a bummer the GPNF seems to offer endless > > cyclotouring opportunities for people living in Seattle or Portland > > and everywhere in-between. > > > My camera crapped out for part of the trip so I don't have photos from > > day 5 and only a few from day 4 and 6. > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157622065862878/ > > > --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring 101 and beyond
Taking your bike on the plane is doable, but check with the airline you're travelling with and find out what their fees and requirements are. There are one or two airlines that still carry bicycles for free, but most are charging $100 or more, sometimes per leg of an itinerary. If your itinerary involves multiple airlines, find out the rules for each airline you are using. Better yet, work out an itinerary that involves as few airlines and as few changes of aircraft as possible. For domestic travel, boxing the bikes and shipping them with FedEx Ground or UPS to a hotel at your destination or to a friend is frequently the best option. Hardshell travel cases offer the best protection for air travel, but storage becomes an issue while you're on tour. Some of us think that just wheeling an unboxed bicycle up to the check in counter and turning the handlebars sideways and removing the pedals is a better option than using a soft travel case or cardboard box. The theory is that the baggage handlers will see a bicycle and treat it carefully instead of seeing a cardboard box and throwing it around. This has worked well for me on 3 trips to Europe so far. AAA publishes excellent road maps, I remember the state and county maps for California being excellent for cyclists. www.trektools.com is an excellent source for maps of European countries. Amazon.com is another good source for maps of foreign countries. IGN (Institut Geographique Nationale) is a good source for maps of France; TCI (Touring Club Italiano) publishes maps of the various Italian regions that are excellent for cycle touring. Lonely Planet just brought out new editions of their cycling guides to Italy, France and (I think) the UK. The original editions were excellent but have been out of print for sometime, and some of therouting information was becoming obsolete because of new road construction. I would expect the new editions to be at least as good as the old ones. Rough Guide travel books are not cycling specific, but are excellent guide books. I used them for Tuscany, Sicily and Ireland and found them to be very useful. On Aug 19, 6:17 pm, Don wrote: > I am not new to biking but I am new to touring. I've got the bike/s > (Sam Hillborne, Myata 610) and most of the basics. I also have a > handle on touring within my state (Florida). But I need some help with > planning some tours in other parts of the USA and overseas. I have > some (probably dumb) questions about how one transports their bike to > other distant locations and how one get a good guide for some of these > tours. For example, after Easter I will have a week and my wife and I > want to head to Northern California and do some touring that would > take in the wine country and surrounding area. I don't really want to > book a guided tour with rented bikes etc. Now maybe to start that is > absolutely the best way to go. But all of the ones I have seen are > very pricey and extremely structured to the group. Being new to this > group I just figured I would lay it out there and see what information > I might be able to gather. I am sure that there are various websites > or other resources I could be directed to. I am not sure if this is OK > but I will give you my email address so that if any want to send me > stuff they can. Thanks in advance for any help you might give. > Cheers, > Don > donl...@bellsouth.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Homer on tour
Alexander, good to hear your Homer worked well on tour. What front rack were you using? Did you have front panniers? I've taken my Homer on plenty of dirt roads, up and down, but never really rode singletrack with it. I took my front and rear racks off but left on the big 700x41 Schwalbe Marathons I used for the tour and hit up the singletrack at Powell Butte today. Man, were the trails great and the bike handled really well. I've ridden by Powell Butte tons and tons of times on my way out to do long road rides but never stopped to really explore all the singletrack there. It totally reminded me of China Camp down in the Bay Area. Homer is definitely the do all bike. Have fun on the rest of your tour! On Aug 19, 5:45 pm, alexander wrote: > I just did a ~1500 mile loop up the pacific coast and around the > olympic peninsula on a fully loaded AHH and I thought it did really > well. I too experienced a little bit of a wobble on a couple > occasions but I found that it was just indication that I had weight > improperly placed and distributed. At one time, I had too much weight > (firewood) high up above my rear panniers and on another I had too > much weight on the front portion of the shelf of my front rack (in > front of the axle). Keeping things down low and well distributed > yielded a great handling bike that even did well on unpaved, rocky > trails. > > I'm about to head east from Portland OR to new york and I wouldn't > hesitate to tour anywhere on the homer hilsen.. except maybe down the > entire length of the Great Divide. > > Note that I'm a fairly light rider at around 145lbs with gear that > probably never exceeds 45lbs > > On Aug 17, 1:10 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > > > Mike - how much weight on the Hilsen? Was it wobbly in specific > > situations? Interested in more detail as I'll be doing this sort of thing > > with a Hilsen. BTW - great trip photos. Looks like it was a great time! > > > Brian > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mike wrote: > > > > Yesterday my friend Dylan and I finished up 8 days of cyclotouring > > > through WA and OR. We managed to roll through portions of Gifford > > > Pinchot NF, Mt Hood NF, Deschutes NF and the Willamette NF. We totally > > > veered from our planned route which would have kept us in and around > > > the GPNF but due to poor weather we changed plans and headed south. > > > The hight point of the trip was day 6 when we took back roads from > > > Madras to just below the summit of McKenzie Pass. I had been wanting > > > to climb the pass ever since moving to OR and was not disappointed. We > > > stayed at a beautiful and serene campground--Lava Lake. The next day > > > we got on the road at 7am and summited McKenzie Pass where we had epic > > > vies of the surround mountains and lava fields from the Dee Wright > > > Observatory. > > > > My Hilsen handled well although next time I tour like this I'll be on > > > a dedicated touring bike. At times the Hilsen felt a little too > > > noodly. I was absolutely floored by the performance of my Schwalbe > > > Marathons (700x41)--they were great. I expected them to feel dead but > > > they were fine. > > > > We averaged like 82 miles a day. Our shortest day was like 65 miles > > > and the longest 107. I can't wait until the next tour. Although we had > > > poor weather which was a bummer the GPNF seems to offer endless > > > cyclotouring opportunities for people living in Seattle or Portland > > > and everywhere in-between. > > > > My camera crapped out for part of the trip so I don't have photos from > > > day 5 and only a few from day 4 and 6. > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157622065862878/ > > > > --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: 58 cm Rambouillet
I just posted my Rambouillet on the Portland Craigslist and also thought I would put up a note here. It is a a green one that I bought complete from Riv. It is a size 58, and it is in great shape. It is the stock build, but my asking price does include the honey Brooks B17 special saddle. I also added a brass bell on one of the drilled spacers from Velo Orange. I would like to get $1,850 plus shipping. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring 101 and beyond
on 8/19/09 5:17 PM, Don at donl...@bellsouth.net wrote: > > I am not new to biking but I am new to touring. I've got the bike/s > (Sam Hillborne, Myata 610) and most of the basics. I also have a > handle on touring within my state (Florida). But I need some help with > planning some tours in other parts of the USA and overseas. I have > some (probably dumb) questions about how one transports their bike to > other distant locations and how one get a good guide for some of these > tours. For example, after Easter I will have a week and my wife and I > want to head to Northern California and do some touring that would > take in the wine country and surrounding area. I don't really want to > book a guided tour with rented bikes etc. Now maybe to start that is > absolutely the best way to go. But all of the ones I have seen are > very pricey and extremely structured to the group. Being new to this > group I just figured I would lay it out there and see what information > I might be able to gather. I am sure that there are various websites > or other resources I could be directed to. I am not sure if this is OK > but I will give you my email address so that if any want to send me > stuff they can. Thanks in advance for any help you might give. A good deal of the answer lies with how much tech work you would want to mess with on a trip. If you feel pretty handy with a wrench, it's easy enough to pack a bike for shipping and either pay the overcharge with the airlines or use a commercial carrier. There are pitfalls with either arrangement, and you should be able to find horror stories via the archives of touring oriented lists, such as tour...@bikelist.org. If you feel less inclined to work the setup/teardown yourself, you probably want to find a nearby shop you trust and another near the destination. Make sure you get quotes for both the breakdown/setup and the shipping. The other thing to consider if you are really going to get serious about travelling is to invest in some S&S Couplers, which will allow you to separate the frame and avoid oversize luggage/shipping charges. Hope that gets you started. I'd definitely encourage you to pursue information on the more touring-specific lists as well. - Jim -- -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace." William Gibson - "All Tomorrow's Parties" --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Homer on tour
I'm using a custom porteur rack with low pannier mounts and some front panniers that I made myself to fit the rack perfectly. I've done week long trips on the AHH with only rear panniers in the past and I can really see on this trip how much it helps to move more of the weight up front. It stabilizes things quite a bit even with more total weight. Powell Butte sounds great-- I too enjoy the singletrack riding on the homer hilsen. Here's a picture for your reference: http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs141.snc1/5216_272130830144_643760144_8532974_6896713_n.jpg I don't generally ride with the hambone bag there on the top tube unless I'm in a town/city and I've stashed my panniers somewhere. When I'm fully loaded, it's kinda overkill and it's generally not necessary to have that easy access to the wallet/phone/keys on the days with long stretches. Also, I'm a big fan of throwing stuff on the front top shelf and being able to quickly bungee it down. It works well for drying laundry too! thanks! alex On Aug 19, 9:48 pm, Mike wrote: > Alexander, good to hear your Homer worked well on tour. What front > rack were you using? Did you have front panniers? > > I've taken my Homer on plenty of dirt roads, up and down, but never > really rode singletrack with it. I took my front and rear racks off > but left on the big 700x41 Schwalbe Marathons I used for the tour and > hit up the singletrack at Powell Butte today. Man, were the trails > great and the bike handled really well. I've ridden by Powell Butte > tons and tons of times on my way out to do long road rides but never > stopped to really explore all the singletrack there. It totally > reminded me of China Camp down in the Bay Area. Homer is definitely > the do all bike. > > Have fun on the rest of your tour! > > On Aug 19, 5:45 pm, alexander wrote: > > > I just did a ~1500 mile loop up the pacific coast and around the > > olympic peninsula on a fully loaded AHH and I thought it did really > > well. I too experienced a little bit of a wobble on a couple > > occasions but I found that it was just indication that I had weight > > improperly placed and distributed. At one time, I had too much weight > > (firewood) high up above my rear panniers and on another I had too > > much weight on the front portion of the shelf of my front rack (in > > front of the axle). Keeping things down low and well distributed > > yielded a great handling bike that even did well on unpaved, rocky > > trails. > > > I'm about to head east from Portland OR to new york and I wouldn't > > hesitate to tour anywhere on the homer hilsen.. except maybe down the > > entire length of the Great Divide. > > > Note that I'm a fairly light rider at around 145lbs with gear that > > probably never exceeds 45lbs > > > On Aug 17, 1:10 pm, Brian Hanson wrote: > > > > Mike - how much weight on the Hilsen? Was it wobbly in specific > > > situations? Interested in more detail as I'll be doing this sort of thing > > > with a Hilsen. BTW - great trip photos. Looks like it was a great time! > > > > Brian > > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Mike wrote: > > > > > Yesterday my friend Dylan and I finished up 8 days of cyclotouring > > > > through WA and OR. We managed to roll through portions of Gifford > > > > Pinchot NF, Mt Hood NF, Deschutes NF and the Willamette NF. We totally > > > > veered from our planned route which would have kept us in and around > > > > the GPNF but due to poor weather we changed plans and headed south. > > > > The hight point of the trip was day 6 when we took back roads from > > > > Madras to just below the summit of McKenzie Pass. I had been wanting > > > > to climb the pass ever since moving to OR and was not disappointed. We > > > > stayed at a beautiful and serene campground--Lava Lake. The next day > > > > we got on the road at 7am and summited McKenzie Pass where we had epic > > > > vies of the surround mountains and lava fields from the Dee Wright > > > > Observatory. > > > > > My Hilsen handled well although next time I tour like this I'll be on > > > > a dedicated touring bike. At times the Hilsen felt a little too > > > > noodly. I was absolutely floored by the performance of my Schwalbe > > > > Marathons (700x41)--they were great. I expected them to feel dead but > > > > they were fine. > > > > > We averaged like 82 miles a day. Our shortest day was like 65 miles > > > > and the longest 107. I can't wait until the next tour. Although we had > > > > poor weather which was a bummer the GPNF seems to offer endless > > > > cyclotouring opportunities for people living in Seattle or Portland > > > > and everywhere in-between. > > > > > My camera crapped out for part of the trip so I don't have photos from > > > > day 5 and only a few from day 4 and 6. > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157622065862878/ > > > > > --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscrib
