Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:17:09 -0500
John Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 09:18, Joe Lee wrote:
> 
> > I appreciate the effort that some are making to develop a GUI for
> > QEMU - There's a few project I see that trying to achieve this.
> > But, I wish they all could come together and work together to
> > develop a nice GUI. I would like to see a sub-project exist in the
> > QEMU site so all can come and contribute to that effort.
> 
> Geez, why not ask for world peace while you are at it.  One GUI?  So
> which toolkit?  Pick Gtk and watch the K folk whine.  Ok, so KDE it
> is. Oops, now the Gnomes are all over ya.  And of course since I
> suspect a non-trivial percentage of QEMU users are on Windows,
> Solaris, etc. they ain't gonna like either of those choices much.

WxWidgets (www.wxwidgets.org) provides a nice way out of this - provides
a uniform API for the application developer, and local look-and-feel for
each platform.  WxWidgets can sit on gtk, motif, x11, win32, mac, cocoa
(doesn't appear to be a qt backend yet, but no reason there couldn't
be).

> Face it, putting a GUI on something like QEMU is going to require at
> least a one per desktop/platform effort.  And that can best be kept
> with the GNOME/KDE/etc software repositories because they require
> constant updating on the schedule of the rest of the desktop
> environment to stay current.
> 
> Think of it like mkisofs/cdrecord/growisofs/cdrdao vs the abundance of
> graphical front ends that all make use of them.  Nobody has to totally
> reinvent the wheel because those solid CLI only parts can be reused by
> each project and each graphical environment gets a totally native (ok,
> several) GUI CD/DVD authoring/burning program instead of one crappy
> ported program.
> 


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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread kadil
On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 16:34 -0400, Joe Lee wrote:
>  
> BTW, I am curious to know how much would it cost to develop a good 
> GUI-Frontend for QEMU that would be comparable to VMware. How much man 
> hours would this likely take?
> 
> Joe

Firstly, we do not have to start from scratch. There are some excellent
examples of gui's as separate projects. We just need a benevolent
dictator to "select" one as a concept, so the project will focus on a
main branch.

I will put forward my vote in advance for gtk. Cross platform, always
free, no strings attached. 

I am not a very good programmer. I could do a simple gui is one day, a
comprehensive one may be a solid month. But the quality of my code would
not be as good as the existing options.

I tried qemu-launcher. Loved it, then upgraded qemu and it no longer
works. Hence I would like the gui to be in the main project, so they
stay synchronised.

Fortunately a lot of the work has already been started in the separate
projects. It would be better to select one and build on it, than
starting over.

I would never advocate taking away the text based interface. That in the
MS domain. But an installer + default gui will go far.

Kim



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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Jan Marten Simons
Am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2006 21:44 schrieb Joe Lee:
> Can you point me to the one you know about?
>
> Joe

As I already did in one of my last replies, I point you to
http://www.reactos.org/xhtml/en/download.html
and especially to this file:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/reactos/reactos0.2.9-REL-qemu.zip?download

After Downloading and unpacking that zip-file you will find a .bat-file for 
windows and a .sh for linux to simply start the supplied image. No need to 
setup anything on the computer in question and another pro of using qemu for 
this is that you will not need to have admin/root priviledges (in contrast to 
VMware Player iirc).

Jan


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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Jan Marten Simons
Am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2006 21:21 schrieb Joe Lee:
>Good point on that, BUT it's not just about the GUI. It's about an
> "easy" way to install the product and run a given app without the need
> to create/setup a VM - To me that is the benefit of the VMware player.
...
>
> Joe

Well, qemu does not even need to be installed, it can run from any location, 
if it is distributed in an intelligent manner. The steps required to setup a 
new VM are ridiculus easy as qemu ships a handy tool for creating and 
converting different disk images and a quite good documentation as well.

Regards,
Jan


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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Stuart Brady
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 09:21:46AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:

> WxWidgets (www.wxwidgets.org) provides a nice way out of this - provides
> a uniform API for the application developer, and local look-and-feel for
> each platform.  WxWidgets can sit on gtk, motif, x11, win32, mac, cocoa
> (doesn't appear to be a qt backend yet, but no reason there couldn't
> be).

Yes, there should be abstraction between the UI and the VM, but I think
that the approach taken by xine, gstreamer, cdrecord, cdparanoia, etc.
is much cleaner.  You could still write a frontend with WxWidgets...

I think it would be best if QEMU didn't depend on any particular
toolkit, and that includes WxWidgets.
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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Joe Lee
I thought I share this with you all. I have been looking into XEN lately 
and someone has developed a GUI-Frontend for it. Here's the link below 
showing images for the GUI interface to manage xen. A similar type GUI 
interface could be done for QEMU.

I wonder want programming tool used for it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xenman/
http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=168929
http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=168929&ssid=35194
http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=168929&ssid=35193
http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=168929&ssid=35191
http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=168929&ssid=35190




Kevin F. Quinn wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:17:09 -0500
John Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 09:18, Joe Lee wrote:



I appreciate the effort that some are making to develop a GUI for
QEMU - There's a few project I see that trying to achieve this.
But, I wish they all could come together and work together to
develop a nice GUI. I would like to see a sub-project exist in the
QEMU site so all can come and contribute to that effort.
  

Geez, why not ask for world peace while you are at it.  One GUI?  So
which toolkit?  Pick Gtk and watch the K folk whine.  Ok, so KDE it
is. Oops, now the Gnomes are all over ya.  And of course since I
suspect a non-trivial percentage of QEMU users are on Windows,
Solaris, etc. they ain't gonna like either of those choices much.



WxWidgets (www.wxwidgets.org) provides a nice way out of this - provides
a uniform API for the application developer, and local look-and-feel for
each platform.  WxWidgets can sit on gtk, motif, x11, win32, mac, cocoa
(doesn't appear to be a qt backend yet, but no reason there couldn't
be).

  

Face it, putting a GUI on something like QEMU is going to require at
least a one per desktop/platform effort.  And that can best be kept
with the GNOME/KDE/etc software repositories because they require
constant updating on the schedule of the rest of the desktop
environment to stay current.

Think of it like mkisofs/cdrecord/growisofs/cdrdao vs the abundance of
graphical front ends that all make use of them.  Nobody has to totally
reinvent the wheel because those solid CLI only parts can be reused by
each project and each graphical environment gets a totally native (ok,
several) GUI CD/DVD authoring/burning program instead of one crappy
ported program.





  



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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi,

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote:

> I thought I share this with you all. I have been looking into XEN lately and
> someone has developed a GUI-Frontend for it. Here's the link below showing
> images for the GUI interface to manage xen. A similar type GUI interface could
> be done for QEMU.
> I wonder want programming tool used for it.

GTK. Since XEN is already limited in scope to a Linux host, it makes (sort 
of) sense.

Hth,
Dscho


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[Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Christian Bourque

Face it, putting a GUI on something like QEMU is going to require at
least a one per desktop/platform effort.  And that can best be kept with
the GNOME/KDE/etc software repositories because they require constant
updating on the schedule of the rest of the desktop environment to stay
current.


In the development version of my Java frontend for QEMU (JQEMU) I've
already integrated the Java VNC client from TightVNC and it works like
a charm without any speed overhead! And it feels just like VMWare...

Since Java is already available for a large variety of platforms this
wouldn't require a big porting effort...

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Tim Walker

Christian Bourque wrote:

Face it, putting a GUI on something like QEMU is going to require at
least a one per desktop/platform effort.  And that can best be kept with
the GNOME/KDE/etc software repositories because they require constant
updating on the schedule of the rest of the desktop environment to stay
current.


In the development version of my Java frontend for QEMU (JQEMU) I've
already integrated the Java VNC client from TightVNC and it works like
a charm without any speed overhead! And it feels just like VMWare...

Since Java is already available for a large variety of platforms this
wouldn't require a big porting effort...

Christian
This gets my vote. Have you tried a compile to native with gcj for those 
who don't have/want to have the Java VM installed?



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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:45:24 +0100
Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 09:21:46AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> 
> > WxWidgets (www.wxwidgets.org) provides a nice way out of this -
> > provides a uniform API for the application developer, and local
> > look-and-feel for each platform.  WxWidgets can sit on gtk, motif,
> > x11, win32, mac, cocoa (doesn't appear to be a qt backend yet, but
> > no reason there couldn't be).
> 
> Yes, there should be abstraction between the UI and the VM, but I
> think that the approach taken by xine, gstreamer, cdrecord,
> cdparanoia, etc. is much cleaner.  You could still write a frontend
> with WxWidgets...
> 
> I think it would be best if QEMU didn't depend on any particular
> toolkit, and that includes WxWidgets.

I was suggesting WxWidgets as a way to avoid writing separate gui
frontends for each platform (that's what WxWidgets is for). I wasn't
suggesting WxWidgets be embedded into Qemu (or the other way around for
that matter).  If you want a pretty controller app and you want to
avoid cross-platform issues WxWidgets does a lot of the work for you
(much more than just gtk for example).  In particular I was responding
to the statement

> Face it, putting a GUI on something like QEMU is going to require at
> least a one per desktop/platform effort.

I don't see any reason to hack up qemu just to put a pretty face on
it.  VNC support already provides an easy way to place the guest screen
wherever you want if you don't like the SDL window (although I think
SDL remains the best choice for the guest screen).
http://code.technoplaza.net/wx-sdl/ talks about combining WxWidgets and
SDL, although I don't know if that's useful.

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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Christian MICHON

you're putting c++ inside the qemu source tree when it is not
needed (yet).

if SDL is common to most guest screens: I agree with you
that the gui/toolkit should overlay the SDL.

Yet Fabrice mentionned months ago this was not his
intention, so we should respect it and (hopefully) close
this long thread.

On 6/16/06, Kevin F. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:45:24 +0100
Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 09:21:46AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
>
> > WxWidgets (www.wxwidgets.org) provides a nice way out of this -
> > provides a uniform API for the application developer, and local
> > look-and-feel for each platform.  WxWidgets can sit on gtk, motif,
> > x11, win32, mac, cocoa (doesn't appear to be a qt backend yet, but
> > no reason there couldn't be).
>
> Yes, there should be abstraction between the UI and the VM, but I
> think that the approach taken by xine, gstreamer, cdrecord,
> cdparanoia, etc. is much cleaner.  You could still write a frontend
> with WxWidgets...
>
> I think it would be best if QEMU didn't depend on any particular
> toolkit, and that includes WxWidgets.

I was suggesting WxWidgets as a way to avoid writing separate gui
frontends for each platform (that's what WxWidgets is for). I wasn't
suggesting WxWidgets be embedded into Qemu (or the other way around for
that matter).  If you want a pretty controller app and you want to
avoid cross-platform issues WxWidgets does a lot of the work for you
(much more than just gtk for example).  In particular I was responding
to the statement

> Face it, putting a GUI on something like QEMU is going to require at
> least a one per desktop/platform effort.

I don't see any reason to hack up qemu just to put a pretty face on
it.  VNC support already provides an easy way to place the guest screen
wherever you want if you don't like the SDL window (although I think
SDL remains the best choice for the guest screen).
http://code.technoplaza.net/wx-sdl/ talks about combining WxWidgets and
SDL, although I don't know if that's useful.

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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Oliver Gerlich

Christian MICHON wrote:

you're putting c++ inside the qemu source tree when it is not
needed (yet).

if SDL is common to most guest screens: I agree with you
that the gui/toolkit should overlay the SDL.

Yet Fabrice mentionned months ago this was not his
intention, so we should respect it and (hopefully) close
this long thread.


Close the thread? Please not - I think it's good that many people posted 
their ideas about a GUI, and maybe there will finally come some 
agreement about the techniques and libraries that should be used.


And if Fabrice doesn't want C++ in the tree (seems a bit reasonable), 
then there's still GTK. And if it is too difficult to install and run a 
GTK GUI under Windows, then a native Windows GUI is still possible 
(after all, the Mac OS X version uses a native GUI toolkit as well, so 
why not do the same under Windows, and use the GTK frontend under all 
other platforms).


Btw. it would be interesting to know what features would be required to 
get a GUI into the Qemu tree, and what would be a total showstopper... 
Maybe the people with commit permission could comment on this :)


Regards,
Oliver


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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:07:32 +0200
"Christian MICHON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> you're putting c++ inside the qemu source tree when it is not
> needed (yet).

Perhaps I'm still not making myself clear.  I did _not_ suggest that
a WxWidgets GUI be integrated into QEMU.  I assumed we were all talking
about an independent controller app to provide a pretty clicky-button
way to start/stop qemu instances, provide console and serial i/o
terminals, that sort of thing.

The only thing that may be worth thinking about is a way to redirect
the SDL output from QEMU, if VNC proves too slow.  Even that would only
be if you want the QEMU screen to be embedded in the frontend, and to
be honest I see no need for that.

> if SDL is common to most guest screens: I agree with you
> that the gui/toolkit should overlay the SDL.
> 
> Yet Fabrice mentionned months ago this was not his
> intention, so we should respect it and (hopefully) close
> this long thread.
> 
> On 6/16/06, Kevin F. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:45:24 +0100
> > Stuart Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 09:21:46AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
> > >
> > > > WxWidgets (www.wxwidgets.org) provides a nice way out of this -
> > > > provides a uniform API for the application developer, and local
> > > > look-and-feel for each platform.  WxWidgets can sit on gtk,
> > > > motif, x11, win32, mac, cocoa (doesn't appear to be a qt
> > > > backend yet, but no reason there couldn't be).
> > >
> > > Yes, there should be abstraction between the UI and the VM, but I
> > > think that the approach taken by xine, gstreamer, cdrecord,
> > > cdparanoia, etc. is much cleaner.  You could still write a
> > > frontend with WxWidgets...
> > >
> > > I think it would be best if QEMU didn't depend on any particular
> > > toolkit, and that includes WxWidgets.
> >
> > I was suggesting WxWidgets as a way to avoid writing separate gui
> > frontends for each platform (that's what WxWidgets is for). I wasn't
> > suggesting WxWidgets be embedded into Qemu (or the other way around
> > for that matter).  If you want a pretty controller app and you want
> > to avoid cross-platform issues WxWidgets does a lot of the work for
> > you (much more than just gtk for example).  In particular I was
> > responding to the statement
> >
> > > Face it, putting a GUI on something like QEMU is going to require
> > > at least a one per desktop/platform effort.
> >
> > I don't see any reason to hack up qemu just to put a pretty face on
> > it.  VNC support already provides an easy way to place the guest
> > screen wherever you want if you don't like the SDL window (although
> > I think SDL remains the best choice for the guest screen).
> > http://code.technoplaza.net/wx-sdl/ talks about combining WxWidgets
> > and SDL, although I don't know if that's useful.
> >
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[Qemu-devel] linux-test-0.5.1.tar.gz seems outdated

2006-06-16 Thread Geert Stappers
Hello QEMU world,

The subject line said allready that linux-test-0.5.1.tar.gz is outdated.

But as this being my first post to this list,
I can't rush in and say there needs something changed at your side,
so below a IRC log that provides the details.
(at the end of the message more text)

19:00 < stappers> hi, the FAQ reports: Debian has a qemu-0.7.0 package in
  unstable, which works. Ubuntu also has a working 0.7.0
  package. 0.7.0 and all future versions _should_ work.
19:01 < stappers> are any succes reported on qemu 0.8.1 on Debian?
19:01 < blight_> i dont see any reason why it shouldnt work on debian
19:02 < allix> linux is linux
19:02 < stappers> mmm, seems I help with it.
  mmm, seems I need help with it.
19:04 < stappers> the error message I get is:
19:04 < stappers> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
19:04 < stappers> eth0: unknown interface: No such device
19:04 < stappers> I do see tap0 created on the host system
19:05 < dignome> look in /etc/qemu-ifup
19:06 < stappers> AFAICS is /etc/qemu-ifup doing it's job
19:06 < dignome> ifconfig shows an eth0 interface?
19:06 < stappers> AFAICS is /etc/qemu-ifup, on the host, doing it's job
19:07 < stappers> ifconfig shows only lo
19:07 < dignome> perhaps i meant ifconfig -a ;p
19:08 < stappers> the image used is from the QEMU homepage
19:08 < stappers> ifconfig -a reveals  dummy0
19:10 < dignome> hm.  how is the host connected?
19:14 < dignome> stappers: people usually either bridge tap0 to an ethernet
 interface or set up some iptable rules and enable forwarding.
19:14 < stappers> dignome: host is a headless PIII, with a `ssh -X
  headlesshost` connection, i.o.w.: a X-terminal
19:14 < dignome> stappers: i mean how is it connected on the network
19:15 < stappers> I call the connection "vlan0 on TUN/TAP"
19:16 < stappers> but there is not yet a connection, there isn't even a
  network device in the guestVM
19:17 < stappers> my commandline is ` qemu linux.img -net nic -net tap`
19:19 < dignome> ok.  the question is how are you connecting to a headless
 machine if it doesn't have any network interfaces other than
 lo?
19:21 < stappers> the headless machine is the host that is running qemu, I can
  ssh to it, qemu runs the linux image (but no eth0)
19:22 < dignome> ... how do you even ssh into it?  what is that connection
 going over!
19:22 < pbrook> You mean no eth0 inside the guest?
19:22 < stappers> yes, no eth0 inside the guest
19:23 < pbrook> You need to load the guest ne2k pci (ak rtl8029) drivers.
19:23 < stappers> mmm
19:26 < stappers> the guest image doesn't contain 'modprobe', the dir
  /lib/modules/ is empty
19:27 < dignome> hm.  i can see how things went off... should have asked about
 ifconfig -a specifying to run it on the *host* ;p
19:31 < pbrook> stappers: Sounds like you need to unbreak your gues OS install.
19:31 < stappers> the host has lo, eth0, sit0 and tap0
19:32 < stappers> "unbreak" as in "rebuild"?
19:32 < stappers> the guest OS image I use is from the QEMU homepage
19:33 < pbrook> Oh. That doesn't have the right ethernet drivers on it.
19:33 < stappers> :-)
19:33 < stappers> :-/
19:33 < stappers> so
  http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/linux-test-0.5.1.tar.gz
  is obsolete
19:34 < stappers> and http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/download.html needs
  an update
19:34 < pbrook> Yes
19:34 < pbrook> Feel free to create a n updated image and sent it to fabrice.
19:42 < stappers> pbrook: are you sure about
19:42 < stappers> < pbrook> Oh. That doesn't have the right ethernet drivers
  on it.
19:43 < pbrook> Fairly sure. It only has the isa ne2k drivers.
19:43 < stappers> the kernel config has CONFIG_NE2000 and qemu monitor reports
  ne2000 at `info network`
19:44 < pbrook> See above.
19:44 < pbrook> ne != ne2k_pci
19:44 < stappers> mmm

While editing, I wondered which "hardware" is in the Debian version of Qemu.

  CHIPS


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[Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Christian Bourque

> In the development version of my Java frontend for QEMU (JQEMU) I've
> already integrated the Java VNC client from TightVNC and it works like
> a charm without any speed overhead! And it feels just like VMWare...
>
> Since Java is already available for a large variety of platforms this
> wouldn't require a big porting effort...
>
> Christian
This gets my vote. Have you tried a compile to native with gcj for those
who don't have/want to have the Java VM installed?



Hi Tim!

The last time I tried to compile JQEMU with gcj I had some errors
because the Swing API wasn't fully supported by gcj. But that was a
long time ago and I read that the gcj team have made significant
progress since then so I'll give it another shot this weekend!

Christian


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[Qemu-devel] qemu qemu-doc.texi

2006-06-16 Thread Paul Brook
CVSROOT:/sources/qemu
Module name:qemu
Changes by: Paul Brook  06/06/16 21:48:48

Modified files:
.  : qemu-doc.texi 

Log message:
Arm h/w doc updates.

CVSWeb URLs:
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/qemu/qemu-doc.texi?cvsroot=qemu&r1=1.94&r2=1.95

Patches:
Index: qemu-doc.texi
===
RCS file: /sources/qemu/qemu/qemu-doc.texi,v
retrieving revision 1.94
retrieving revision 1.95
diff -u -b -r1.94 -r1.95
--- qemu-doc.texi   14 Jun 2006 18:35:18 -  1.94
+++ qemu-doc.texi   16 Jun 2006 21:48:48 -  1.95
@@ -1524,6 +1524,10 @@
 This means some devices (eg. ne2k_pci NIC) are not useable, and others
 (eg. rtl8139 NIC) are only useable when the guest drivers use the memory
 mapped control registers.
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+PCI OHCI USB controller.
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+LSI53C895A PCI SCSI Host Bus Adapter with hard disk and CD-ROM devices.
 @end itemize
 
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[Qemu-devel] QGui

2006-06-16 Thread wayne tempel

Hello,
   Wayne here, I would like to know if there is some user documentation 
for the QGui application? Everytime that I try to use it at the end where it 
says save I always get the same message that says Run time error 76, path 
not found. Any input would be much appreciated.

 Thank you for your time,

Wayne


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Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-16 Thread Mattia Gentilini (QD)
Tim Walker wrote:
> That may not be true - I'm not sure but I think something reasonable
> could be done in Java. There is certainly a Java VNC client available
> which could play a part.
The FLOZ project
http://www.oszoo.org/wiki/index.php/Free_Live_OS_Zoo

Uses the tightVNC Java applet to connect to QEMU instance.
QEMU on the server is CVS, but lacks the last vnc.c patch (I'll put it
on when I have some time).

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[Qemu-devel] Re: linux-test-0.5.1.tar.gz seems outdated, but isn't

2006-06-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 08:37:05PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
   
> 19:42 < stappers> pbrook: are you sure about
> 19:42 < stappers> < pbrook> Oh. That doesn't have the right ethernet drivers
>   on it.
> 19:43 < pbrook> Fairly sure. It only has the isa ne2k drivers.
> 19:43 < stappers> the kernel config has CONFIG_NE2000 and qemu monitor reports
>   ne2000 at `info network`
> 19:44 < pbrook> See above.
> 19:44 < pbrook> ne != ne2k_pci
> 19:44 < stappers> mmm
> 
> While editing, I wondered which "hardware" is in the Debian version of Qemu.
> 
>   CHIPS
That was a brainwave

20:45 < stappers> when I modify ` qemu linux.img -net nic -net tap`
20:46 < stappers> into `qemu linux.img -net nic,model=ne2k_isa -net tap` is
  the error 'no such device' gone  :-)

So the trick is defining the NIC model as "ne2k_isa"

Should this default hardware detection be documented?


Cheers
Geert Stappers


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