[python-uk] PyCon 2008 - Call for Papers, Talks and Tutorials

[Zeth]

PyCon UK 2008 is an independent, community-run, community-controlled
and not-for-profit conference dedicated to the Python programming
language, Python applications, toolkits and frameworks. It also
features social events and a chance to meet fellow Python users. It is
organised by members of Python User Groups from across the United
Kingdom.

Last Year, PyConUK 2007 was attended by over 200 delegates and
featured around 50 talks and tutorials, as well as a conference dinner
and two pub events.

PyCon UK 2008 will be taking place in Birmingham City Centre from the
12th-14th September. We are after Talks, Tutorials and Other events.
To submit a talk, please visit our submissions page:
http://www.pyconuk.org/submit

We're looking for proposals on all aspects of Python - programming
from novice to advanced levels; applications and frameworks, or how
you have been involved in introducing Python into your organisation.

We especially welcome first-time speakers; we are community conference
and we are eager to hear about your experience. If you have friends or
colleagues who have something valuable to contribute, twist their arms
to tell us about it! Please also forward this Call for Papers to
anyone that you feel may be interested.

For more information about PyCon UK 2008, please visit our homepage at
http://www.pyconuk.org/

To submit a talk, please visit http://www.pyconuk.org/submit
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[python-uk] Python West Midlands Technical Meet, Saturday 24th May 2008

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Hello everyone,

The May Python West Midlands Technical Meeting is this Saturday 24th May 2008.

It is held at 17a Maybrook Road, Sutton Coldfield, Birmingham, B76 1AL.

The meeting has a few short talks on various subjects, but the main
activity is group programming, previous knowledge of Python and Python
applications such as Django helps, but is not required at all, any
open-minded person can get involved.

We arrive around 10.30am and have a cup of tea and get comfy and our
laptops on the wireless/wired network. Having your own laptop (with
wireless or wired Internet connection) helps a lot but is optional.
Things then start at 11am. Leave when you have had enough (or when the
venue is locked up in the evening : ).

For lunch we normally each donate £2 and then one of our members buys
provisions (knowing the day before that you are coming helps, if
possible, if in doubt just come). Bringing biscuits/snacks to share is
encouraged.

For more details see: http://pywm.eu/

Best Wishes,
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Re: [python-uk] invalid syntax

[Zeth]

In addition to what others have said,

2008/7/21 suhail shaik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> command = "./hive2 -k kf/"+file+"/ -o "+file+".xml /data/test/"+fileName
> print command
> os.system(command)

Whatever you are trying to do here, you might want to try doing purely
in Python instead of mixing in shell. Doing it all in Python will make
your script more likely to work cross-platform.
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[python-uk] PyCon UK 2008 update: Tutorials and Talk Abstracts

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Hello everyone,

A quick update about PyCon UK 2008, the UK's dedicated Python
Conference which is being held on the 12th to the 14th of September
2008.

The timetable for the tutorials day has now been published:
http://www.pyconuk.org/timetable.html

The abstracts of currently accepted talks, tutorials and BOFs can be
found at http://www.pyconuk.org/talk_abstracts.html

The early bird rate is still open (but not for too much longer):
http://www.pyconuk.org/booking.html

Best Wishes,
PyCon UK Committee
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Re: [python-uk] [pyconuk] Proposed PyCon UK UnConference, 5th September

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It is a too late now to make such a drastic change less than a month
before, however I would certainly be interested in holding a future
event there.

2009/8/7 Nicholas Tollervey :
> Guys,
>
> I won't be able to attend on the 5th Sept as my brother is getting married
> on that date. Nevertheless, I still have some questions:
>
> How many attendees are needed for a viable event to take place..?
>
> As £2k is steep given the number of delegates (or lack thereof) how about a
> different venue for smaller numbers?
>
> Perhaps a venue that would attract geeks anyway, would be sympathetic to our
> needs and "we" (the Python community) already know of it?
>
> Bletchley Park..?
>
> Positives: Half way between London and Birmingham and walking distance from
> (the relatively well connected) Bletchley station. Existing relationship
> with BP - we'd probably only need a couple of the huts for an informal
> gathering. Lots of computers. They have a cafeteria etc...
>
> Negatives: Internet connection (lack of) - we'd need to check. Cost..? Would
> they be willing to "lend" the use of a couple of huts if "delegates" pay the
> entrance fee (about £10 iirc) or for a small charge..? Change of venue
> requires re-advertising. Insurance? (Is this needed should this be so much
> an "un" conference that the venue is only the "borrowing" of a couple of
> huts and we'd all just be visitors to a museum - a sort of un-conference
> "picnic").
>
> Just throwing ideas up in the air. Please shoot them down.
>
> Also, I live about 20mins from BP and I know there are others close by -
> should this idea have wings I'd be more than happy to be a body on the
> ground before the event.
>
> Nicholas.
>
> On 7 Aug 2009, at 09:34, René Dudfield wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Michael Foord 
>> wrote:
>> In case anyone didn't spot it, the URL to book at is:
>>
>>  http://pyconuk.org/booking.html
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> John Pinner wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We confirmed the Unconference - http:///pyconuk.org  -
>> a couple of weeks ago and announced it on the pyconuk and python-uk lists.
>>
>>
>> Regrettably there has been a very poor response (2 delegates, and one of
>> those is me!) so faced with venue and insurance costs of approx £2k to cover
>> it looks like we will have to cancel. Very disappointing given the high
>> level of interest expressed at EuroPython.
>>
>> Unless of course there is a sudden rush...
>>
>> We'll give it until the middle of next week before making a final
>> decision.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> John
>> --
>>
>>
>> Cool, I've booked it!
>>
>> Looking forward to meeting some uk python peoples.
>>
>>
>> I hope it goes ahead... I was planning to book it earlier, but forgot
>> about it.  I imagine others also need reminding :)
>>
>>
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[python-uk] PyCon UK, UnConference, 5th September 2009 - yes tomorrow!

[Zeth]

Hello Everyone,

A new event, our first ever "UnConference" is tomorrow, doesn't time
fly! Doors are open from 9.30 am tomorrow. Entry is a tenner to help
cover costs.

More details are here:

http://wiki.pyconuk.org/

Thanks to all the helpful people that booked in advance. If you
haven't don't worry, just get in the car/train and get here!

We look forward to seeing you all!

Best Wishes,
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Re: [python-uk] PyCon UK, UnConference, 5th September 2009 - yes tomorrow!

[Zeth]

Sorry correction, Ayrton Senna is if you pay online, on the door is £15:

http://pyconuk.org/booking.html

2009/9/4 Zeth :
> Hello Everyone,
>
> A new event, our first ever "UnConference" is tomorrow, doesn't time
> fly! Doors are open from 9.30 am tomorrow. Entry is a tenner to help
> cover costs.
>
> More details are here:
>
> http://wiki.pyconuk.org/
>
> Thanks to all the helpful people that booked in advance. If you
> haven't don't worry, just get in the car/train and get here!
>
> We look forward to seeing you all!
>
> Best Wishes,
> Zeth
>
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[python-uk] Python West Midlands October meeting is this Saturday the 31st October

[Zeth]

Hello Everyone,

The Python West Midlands October meeting is this Saturday, the 31st
October.

An open programming event. No previous programming knowledge required,
but an open mind and a pack of biscuits helps.

Held at the Linux Emporium/Clockwork premises at 17a Maybrook Road,
Sutton Coldfield, Birmingham, B76 1AL. (Near Minworth Asda).

Drop in and out whenever you like from 10.30pm onwards.

For those coming on public transport, email the pywm list for
help/train station pickup  

More information at: http://www.pywm.eu/Meetings/

Best Wishes,
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Re: [python-uk] Eclipse + Pydev?

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On 17 March 2010 18:16, David Craddock
 wrote:
> Without wanting to start an editor discussion or, more often as they are
> called, arguments - I would like to find out what people think of the
> Eclipse + Pydev combination for python development.
> I'm keen to try this, but how does it work for you? If you use it, does it
> work well for you? Any complaints? Best features of this setup?

I tried it a few times, but found it a bit overkill so went back to
emacs. That however was some years ago now, so I would be interested
to hear how you get on.
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[python-uk] EuroPython 2010 - 17th to 22nd of July in Birmingham

[Zeth]

If you haven't booked yet, then please do, in future years EuroPython
will be outside the UK, so this is your opportunity to take part with
minimal costs. Please also forward this email to anyone or any group
you think might be appropriate. Cheers!

See you at EuroPython!

--

EuroPython 2010 - Europe's official Python conference

There is less than a month to go until EuroPython 2010 - the last ever
EuroPython to be held in the UK.

EuroPython 2010 is about the Python programming language and the open
source software and tools written in Python, and is aimed at everyone
in the Python community, whether you are a Python expert, or you are
coming to the conference in order to learn Python for the first time.

EuroPython 2010 will held from the 17th to 22nd of July in Birmingham,
United Kingdom. EuroPython will involve over 100 talks, discussions
and social events.

The timetable can be found here:
http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/

Speakers include the best of the European Python community, including
Martijn Faassen, Tobias Ivarsson, Holger Krekel, Marc-André Lemburg,
Ezio Melotti and many more. Not to mention the locals: Michael Foord,
David Jones, Mark Dickinson, Luke Leighton and more.

Speakers from North America include core Python developers Raymond
Hettinger and Brett Cannon, author Wesley Chun, as well as Guido van
Rossum, the creator of Python, who will be making his first (and
probably last) appearance in the UK for many years.

EuroPython 2010 is a not-for-profit volunteer-organised conference.
There is a fee for your conference booking in order to help cover
costs, this includes lunches and refreshments, as well as the
conference dinner.

Register using the registration form:
http://www.europython.eu/registration/

The fee varies according to the choices you make and there are various
concessions. It is all explained at the registration form above. You
can sort out your own accommodation or use the above form to
automatically book a hotel.

A wealth of further information can be found at the website, including
maps, travel, accommodation, social events, partners programme, etc:
http://www.europython.eu
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Re: [python-uk] Python UK user groups / website / coordination

[Zeth]

On 2 August 2010 13:43, Rob Cowie  wrote:
> Sounds like a cracking idea. I've just moved from London to Leeds and 
> although there are plenty of geekery-related events and meet ups, there isn't 
> a python users group.

Oh yes there is:
http://ypy.org.uk/

Next meeting is at Old BBC Broadcasting House, Woodhouse Lane, Leeds, LS2 9EN
On the 12 August, 19:30 – 21:30
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Re: [python-uk] Python UK user groups / website / coordination

[Zeth]

On 2 August 2010 15:23, Reza Lotun  wrote:
> This sounds like a great idea. A suggestion though - since we're all
> Python hackers, why not create a hosted website on AppEngine?

We have already started a pinax based site for it. We have hosting.
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Re: [python-uk] Python UK user groups / website / coordination

[Zeth]

On 2 August 2010 15:44, Nicholas Tollervey  wrote:
> Hmmm... I like the app-engine idea since it is v.simple and plain ol' Python 
> (rather than a complex project like Pinax that requires Django-fu to 
> understand).

We have done the Django-fu, that is not a problem. For people who want
to be involved, let me know and I will add you to the doodle list.
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Re: [python-uk] Python UK user groups / website / coordination

[Zeth]

tion (dig through the wiki) for finding
the right site. When you talk about people who may be new to Python
(as well as perhaps new to open source software projects like Python
altogether), then requiring people to use certain systems acts as a
barrier.

For example. while old Unix-fans like myself love mailing lists, many
people who started using computers in the 2000s find them obscure and
confusing (look how many Linux user group mailing lists have a
recurring thread about top-posting vs bottom posting).

During EuroPython 2010, a couple of us did some work coding a new
version of python.me.uk based on the ideas I have been given. This is
in process and we hope to have things ready for the IRC meeting.

Pinax is a content management system (based on Django) that is already
aimed at social groups such as a local Python group, so the features
we want are already there: profiles, calendar, photos, tribes,
locations and so on.

The Pinax site is up and functioning to some extent but still needs a
little templating work before we launch it. If anyone wants to help,
we need more graphics and CSS work rather than Python coding now.

Basically, each local group (in internal Pinax terms 'a tribe') can
have their own theme (colours, mascot etc), and subdomain, for
example:

http://wm.python.me.uk/

However, behind the scenes it all goes into one integrated calender
and so on. If someone moves to another part of the country, they do
not need to make a new login, they just change a few checkboxes which
user groups (tribes) they are subscribed to.

Also behind the scenes we can do a lot of automated updates to social
networking sites etc, so when an event is added it updates twitter,
facebook and so on. We can also do mailing list munging so that old
Unix fans can ignore there is a website at all and just access the
whole system via a mailing list.

Each group's admin does not need to know Django, they just login to
the website and use the web based admin. Groups can start up, grow and
die off, and it will all be tracked on the site.

I don't really care if you hate Django/Pinax and want me to use
Turbogears or a wiki or some proprietary cloud. Pinax is off the shelf
and easy to use and we have the people to do it. Getting stuck on
arguing over the website is a dead end. Lets use our efforts to get
the groups up and running.

Anyway, I hope the meeting time of 19th August at 7.30pm suits
everyone. If you cannot make it please send your thoughts to this
thread or if you want to give your thoughts in private then send it to
me.

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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Re: [python-uk] Python UK user groups / website / coordination

[Zeth]

On 4 August 2010 12:41, Nicholas Tollervey  wrote:
> I'm with Tim: +1 many thanks to Zeth for this (and apologies for outing
> us ;-)

No problem, shall we do the 17th instead then?
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Re: [python-uk] Python UK user groups / website / coordination

[Zeth]

On 4 August 2010 14:08, Tim Golden  wrote:
> On 04/08/2010 14:05, Zeth wrote:
>>
>> On 4 August 2010 12:41, Nicholas Tollervey  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm with Tim: +1 many thanks to Zeth for this (and apologies for outing
>>> us ;-)
>>
>> No problem, shall we do the 17th instead then?
>
> Unless I missed it, you didn't actually give an IRC channel.

You are right as always Tim, and the email saying that someone
couldn't do the 19th I somehow missed from the thread.

We can hijack europython @ irc.freenode.net

I have gone against my own argument by using a medium that people may
not understand, so here is the explanation:

IRC stands for internet relay chat. It is a text-based real time
protocol from the 1980s and 1990s, and still popular today. You need
an IRC client.

For any platform: if you have Firefox you can use Chatzilla
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16/

If you have never used IRC before, it would be good to test your
client beforehand, then if you have problems, you can email this list
and we can try to help you.

If you are using Linux, then you probably already have a client, such
as Empathy or Pidgin. Try typing empathy into a terminal. I use irssi
which is a terminal based client. There are dozens of free clients
available for any type of computing device. You could even roll your
own thing using twisted:
http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/8.2.0/api/twisted.words.protocols.irc.IRCClient.html

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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Re: [python-uk] Python UK user groups / website / coordination

[Zeth]

On 4 August 2010 14:37:34 UTC+1, Zeth  wrote:
> We can hijack europython @ irc.freenode.net
>
> I have gone against my own argument by using a medium that people may not 
> understand, so here is the explanation:
>
> IRC stands for internet relay chat. It is a text-based real time protocol 
> from the 1980s and 1990s, and still popular today. You need an IRC client.
>
> For any platform: if you have Firefox you can use Chatzilla 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16/
>
> If you have never used IRC before, it would be good to test your client 
> beforehand, then if you have problems, you can email this list and we can try 
> to help you.

This tutorial is very helpful also:

http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/intro

For our chat meeting, the network is freenode (one of the pre-included
networks) and the channel is #europython
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Re: [python-uk] Python UK user groups / website / coordination

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On 4 August 2010 14:43:36 UTC+1, Zeth  wrote:
> This tutorial is very helpful also:
>
> http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/intro
>
> For our chat meeting, the network is freenode (one of the pre-included 
> networks) and the channel is #europython

Even cooler, if you have Chatzilla and some web based email, you
should be able to just click on the following link:

irc://irc.freenode.org/europython
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Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

[Zeth]

On 13 December 2010 16:31, Alec Battles  wrote:
>
> Am I the only one who considers this a bit spammy?

No I also consider it more spam than ham when it is a vague advert
rather than details for a real job. If it doesn't have real details
(precise location, industry, salary in pounds, etc) then it is as
likely be to fishing to fill up a client database that can be sold to
employers later, than a real job that exists now.

I have no objections when it is a real company posting directly with
real details.
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Re: [python-uk] London Python Roles

[Zeth]

On 17 December 2010 08:56, Ross Lawley  wrote:
> Personally, I would have scanned and then ignored the message had it not had
> 31 replies!!

The irony further underlined by you adding another (and then me too!).

Merry Christmas to all UK Pythonistas!
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Re: [python-uk] OT: Looking for an iPhone dev

[Zeth]

On 19 December 2010 21:22, Jamie Kirkpatrick  wrote:
> There are getting to be too many of these kinda posts for sure.

Well I have threaded email, so my annoyance at getting these kind of
posts on mailing lists is moderated by the fact that by the time I get
to them, there are already other replies moaning about it which give
some kind of cathartic let down. If it was a proper job then I
wouldn't have minded about it being an iPhone job advert, I suppose
someone has to to do it, but again the fact it has no details at all
just makes it noise without signal.
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[python-uk] PyCon UK 2011 - 24th to 25th September 2011 - Conference Announcement and Booking details

[Zeth]

The UK's official Python conference returns. It is aimed at everyone
in the Python community, of all skill levels, from beginners to core
developers.

The conference will be held on the 24th to 25th September 2011, in the
TechnoCentre Coventry (CV1 2TT).

The conference is not-for-profit and community-run by volunteers. It
is your conference so you can give a talk, lead a workshop or help
with publicity - see our wiki for more details.

In particular, it would help a lot if you can forward this
announcement to your Python-using friends and colleagues and relevant
mailing lists, or link to our website on Twitter, Facebook, Google+
and so on.

Booking is open now. The ticket cost for the weekend is £95 which
includes access to all sessions, lunches, refreshments, the exclusive
PyCon UK T-shirt and the unmissable conference dinner (Concession rate
is £75).

For more details and to book, please visit our website at http://pyconuk.org/
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Re: [python-uk] Dojo at PyconUK

[Zeth]

On 9 September 2011 12:04, Nicholas Tollervey  wrote:
> Roman Numeral Calculator - e.g. XI - III = IIX (Apparently, it's not as easy 
> as you'd think. Parsing / converting between Roman numerals / numeric values 
> apparently has some interesting "weird" rules to take into account). :-)

Would it be more useful to make a Roman numeral data type?
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Re: [python-uk] PyCon UK 2011 - 24th to 25th September 2011 - Conference Announcement and Booking details

[Zeth]

On 25/07/11 11:52, Zeth wrote:

The UK's official Python conference returns. It is aimed at everyone
in the Python community, of all skill levels, from beginners to core
developers.

The conference will be held on the 24th to 25th September 2011, in the
TechnoCentre Coventry (CV1 2TT).

The conference is not-for-profit and community-run by volunteers. It
is your conference so you can give a talk, lead a workshop or help
with publicity - see our wiki for more details.

In particular, it would help a lot if you can forward this
announcement to your Python-using friends and colleagues and relevant
mailing lists, or link to our website on Twitter, Facebook, Google+
and so on.

Booking is open now. The ticket cost for the weekend is £95 which
includes access to all sessions, lunches, refreshments, the exclusive
PyCon UK T-shirt and the unmissable conference dinner (Concession rate
is £75).

For more details and to book, please visit our website at http://pyconuk.org/


The schedule is now online at: http://pyconuk.net/Schedule
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Re: [python-uk] PyCon UK 2011 - 24th to 25th September 2011 - Conference Announcement and Booking details

[Zeth]

Hi again,

Just a quick update. The early bird rate is closing tonight, so book now:
http://pyconuk2011.eventbrite.com/

Schedule is here:
http://pyconuk.net/Schedule

Best Wishes,
Zeth


On 9 September 2011 14:10, Zeth  wrote:
> On 25/07/11 11:52, Zeth wrote:
>>
>> The UK's official Python conference returns. It is aimed at everyone
>> in the Python community, of all skill levels, from beginners to core
>> developers.
>>
>> The conference will be held on the 24th to 25th September 2011, in the
>> TechnoCentre Coventry (CV1 2TT).
>>
>> The conference is not-for-profit and community-run by volunteers. It
>> is your conference so you can give a talk, lead a workshop or help
>> with publicity - see our wiki for more details.
>>
>> In particular, it would help a lot if you can forward this
>> announcement to your Python-using friends and colleagues and relevant
>> mailing lists, or link to our website on Twitter, Facebook, Google+
>> and so on.
>>
>> Booking is open now. The ticket cost for the weekend is £95 which
>> includes access to all sessions, lunches, refreshments, the exclusive
>> PyCon UK T-shirt and the unmissable conference dinner (Concession rate
>> is £75).
>>
>> For more details and to book, please visit our website at
>> http://pyconuk.org/
>>
> The schedule is now online at: http://pyconuk.net/Schedule
>
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[python-uk] PyCon UK 2012 - Call for talks

[Zeth]

PyCon UK 2012 - Call for talks

Please forward this email to relevant lists, social networks, etc.

PyCon UK 2012, the UK's official Python conference, returns from the 
28th September to 1st October, Coventry UK.


This volunteer run and organised conference includes sprints, training, 
open space and social events. For more information please see our site 
at pyconuk.org and our wiki at pyconuk.net


If you would like to share your expertise, tell us your horror stories 
or pimp your project, please consider giving a talk at PyConUK.


Your talk should reflect at least one of our four themes ( 
http://pyconuk.net/Themes ).


When planning your talk, it should be no more than 40 minutes.

Please email us the following:

Your name
A contact number
A one paragraph biography
The title of your talk
A short one paragraph abstract
Which theme (or themes) your talk can be categorised under.

If we accept your talk, we would also require a longer abstract in order 
to create a wiki page.


To submit a talk, please email sub...@pyconuk.net before Tuesday 14th 
August 2012.


If you have already given us your talks, and had confirmation from John 
or Zeth, then ignore this message, but we still need the data in the 
wiki if it is not already there.


Best Wishes,
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[python-uk] PyConUK 2012 Schedule now online

[Zeth]

Hello!

PyConUK 2012, the UK Python Conference, is taking place in Coventry from 
Friday 28th September to Monday 1st October.


That is only two weeks away!

Everyone is welcome from complete beginners through to experienced 
experts. The core is on Saturday and Sunday so if you cannot get time 
off work, you will still get all the key parts of the conference.


We now have a draft schedule online:

* http://pyconuk.net/Schedule

It includes talks, introductory and intermediate tutorials, sprints, 
discussions, socials, the annual Python dinner, and of course the famous 
Lightning Talks.


An introduction to the conference can be found here:

* http://pyconuk.org

More information at our wiki at:

* http://pyconuk.net

To book a ticket, please visit:

http://pyconuk2012.eventbrite.co.uk/

Best Wishes,
The Python UK Team

P.S. Please forward this message to your friends, colleagues, mailing 
lists, social networks, local user groups, etc.

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Re: [python-uk] Python-UK Google Plus Community

[Zeth]

On 10/12/12 20:02, Tony Ibbs wrote:

Hmm. Don't forget that some of us *can't* use google plus, because it won't let 
us use our normal online names (I've been TIbs online since before there was 
such a thing, but that's not good enough for google plus). I'm sure I'm not the 
only one. That shouldn't matter to anyone on this list, of course (my problem, 
etc.), but it needs to be considered if the aim is to *broaden* the community. 
And there are other concerns with all of the social networking sites (google 
plus, facebook, etc.).

Google groups, of course, just (at the moment) need a  valid email address to 
post to them - if you really want something from google, does that provide a 
half-way house? (I've no idea if you can gateway google groups and google plus 
in some transparent manner).

Tibs
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Back in bulletin board and usenet days I tried to only my first name 
online and carried on when I discovered the web.


The practical solution is to just call yourself King Tibs and you are 
sorted :-)

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Re: [python-uk] [pyconuk] Python-UK Google Plus Community

[Zeth]

On 10/12/12 14:32, Martin P. Hellwig wrote:

Hi All,

I now that I have been absent for a number of years on this list, but
now after changing jobs (well I am in the middle of it again), changing
homes and being a daddy (still am) I have come to a point where I can
get more actively involved again.

Since google lately communities introduced , I have started the
Python-UK one, however I hope that I can involve some members on this
list too, especially in the event of conflicts of moderation.

I know that some members do not think too highly about the omnipresent
of google, however I do think it is nicely implemented and can give good
reach out to the community.

You can find it here:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109155400666012015869

Kind regards,

Martin P. Hellwig


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Thanks for setting this up Martin.

I just read the mailing list posts about the google+ group so didn't get 
time to read all of the google+ group itself yet.


Regarding the discussion about the differences between this mailing list 
and the new google plus group, apart from the proprietary issue about 
big brother, for me the key difference is that the Google group will 
allow lots of more trivial, specific or tentative discussions. It is not 
normal to tell the mailing list that I made this script or I wrote this 
blog post, but that is quite normal for a google group.


I like this kind of thing, but I understand the negative expressions. I 
think the answer is that if anything genuinely useful bubbles up out of 
the Google Plus group, it should be cross-posted here for the benefit of 
those who want a higher signal to noise ratio.


Best Wishes,
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Re: [python-uk] Can you help us build our London team?

[Zeth]

Hey Roger,

Sounds good, what's the money like?

Best Wishes,
Zeth

On 14/02/13 20:42, Roger Toor wrote:

Hey folks

We're building our London team, which will consist of 4-5 developers in
the next few weeks. However, being based in Silicon Valley at the
moment, I am struggling to find where suitable candidates available
now/soon hang out.

I'll be flying in this weekend, so would appreciate it if anyone on the
list can suggest anyone appropriate that I should speak with?


*Here's a quick overview:*

4 of us started the company in London and moved to San Francisco 1 year
ago for the AngelPad incubator (0.5% admission rate) and subsequently
raised one of the largest seed funding rounds in recent history, our
investors include Google's chairman (Eric Schmidt) and 30 others of a
similar calibre.

They're flooding us with introductions to companies they're invested in
as potential clients (Skype, Spotify, Zynga, Pinterest, Square, Palantir
etc), now we just need help building out more of the product in addition
to a great engineering culture.

We have the resources of a much larger company and an unfair advantage
that most never get access to, with the pace and openness to change of a
startup. We're still only 10 strong and on the cusp of some very
aggressive growth, so anyone joining now will shape how big business we
become. We're already making money and looking at raising our Series B
at the end of this year. Exciting things ahead!


*Requirements:*

  * Mid-Senior developers looking for perm / contract-to-hire in London
  * Available immediately or in the next few weeks
  * Strong with Python 2.x
  * Ideally also strong with Flask, Django is okay too
  * Google App Engine (NoSQL)
  * Strong experience building rich web applications

We're also looking for frontend skill set, which ideally would sit with
the backend guys:

  * Backbone.JS, CoffeeScript


Engineers get the best kit (we can afford ;)) and we're big on
continuous integration + automation.

All the best,

Roger Toor

Co-Founder and CTO at RolePoint

(415) 323 9340 | skype: rogertoor |www.rolepoint.com
<http://www.rolepoint.com/>




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Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board

[Zeth]

Yep those two and Marc-Andre Lemburg who has done a lot for PyConUK
over the years, are there any other UK/nearby candidates? I for one
want to use my vote to balance the board geographically (i.e. a board
compromised of not just US West Coast people, as beautiful as they all
are).

On 2 May 2015 at 10:33, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:
> Hey there!
>
> In case you hadn't noticed, the upcoming PSF board election has both
> Carrie Anne Philbin and Naomi Ceder (both UK based Pythonistas who put a
> lot of work into our community) as candidates.
>
> Yay and best of luck to both Carrie Anne and Naomi.
>
> If you have PSF voting rights, please remember to vote (I've just
> submitted mine - no prizes for guessing who I voted for)..!
>
> :-)
>
> All the best,
>
> Nicholas.
>
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Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board

[Zeth]

On 4 May 2015 at 13:02, Andy Robinson  wrote:
> BTW I was once asked to be on the PSF board, when it was first set up,
> and turned it down So if you are
> really keen to have an extra nomination I wouldn't mind, but I am not
> going to press for it either.

Someone will have to help me here with details, but a quick reply
before I forget and this thread disappears into gmail. It used to be
that you needed to be a nominated and voted in to be a member of the
PSF, but I think they have changed/are changing it to a system where
you just sign up on a web form to become a member of the PSF. Once as
a member you can run for the board of the PSF when they next open
nominations, which I guess is early 2016 or something.
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Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board

[Zeth]

On 4 May 2015 at 21:32, Steve Holden  wrote:


Thanks for clarifying that. Of course, another way to get involved in
the Python community in the UK is to come to PyConUK (Friday 18th -
Monday 21st September 2015 - http://pyconuk.org ).

Sorry I couldn't resist :)
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Re: [python-uk] UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board

[Zeth]

On 4 May 2015 at 21:47, Andy Robinson  wrote:
> You're right, a quick google says it has all changed since my fuzzy
> memories of circa 2003...:
>
> https://www.python.org/psf/membership/
>
> Not sure I want to stump up $2000 now and get on the campaign trail,
> I'd probably have to become an advocate for a move to Python 3, which
> would involve fending off bankruptcy while we try to upgrade 15 years
> worth of corporate apps without our clients' agreement ;-)

Okay good find. So I am what they now call a fellow due to co-founding
and running PyCon UK. It seems there are six routes so paying $2000 is
not the only way.
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[python-uk] Python 3 thread 2015 edition (was Re: UK based Pythonistas as candidates for the PSF board)

[Zeth]

On 4 May 2015 at 21:47, Andy Robinson  wrote:
> I'd probably have to become an advocate for a move to Python 3, which
> would involve fending off bankruptcy while we try to upgrade 15 years
> worth of corporate apps without our clients' agreement ;-)

If they had known that, after the best part of a decade later, the
majority of commercial deployments would be still using Python 2,
would they have done it differently?

Practicality beats purity - a high level dynamic language never has to
break upstream code; it is all interpreted and compiled into byte code
anyway, so the interpreter should just accept Python 2 and Python 3
code. I think the PyPy people were talking about this as a possibility
at one point.

What is the Linus Torvalds saying? Something like "If you decide there
is no option but to make changes that break upstream, before you go
ahead, first shoot yourself". (Maybe it had swear words in it as I
cannot find the exact text now.)

If one does not have to support 3.1 and 3.2, and you can just jump to
3.3+, then life is much simpler as they backtracked on some of the
most egregious breakages and so it is easy to have code that runs on
Python 2 and 3.

Python 3 is a marginally nicer language but it is one of those API
breakages that doesn't immediately benefit the customer so doesn't get
paid for in the short term. At least they don't break the API every
version like some famous web frameworks that shall remain nameless.

But none of this matters as it will all work out in the end. Your
customers will eventually want something that requires a feature which
does not get backported to Python 2, then they will have to pay for
the code conversion.

I switched my head over to Python 3 when asyncio module was added to
the standard library. It was a feature compelling enough for me to
switch. (Of course, that example works the other way too, since people
in the community have backported it to Python 2 anyway.)

I personally find adding Python 3 support to code one of those very
therapeutic activities (so maybe I should add that to my freelance
services I offer :) but it does require the code to be in tip top
condition when you begin. If the code already gets no errors in Pylint
or PEP8.py, it is fairly straightforward to support Python 3. If it
has unit tests, they normally help a lot too, as long as you can
easily port them to Python 3 first.

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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[python-uk] More Information for potential PyCon UK Sponsors

[Zeth]

Hello Everyone,

Good news! Peter has added more information to the sponsorship page:

http://www.pyconuk.org/sponsorship/

Please tell your bosses, marketing and HR departments :)

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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Re: [python-uk] And now for something completely different - the PyCon UK Poster Session!

[Zeth]

On 6 June 2015 at 12:36, Tom Wright  wrote:
> Hmmm... that means you can buy a television for the price of three
> posters

When I used to do these in academia, I used an A4 printer and blue
tacked them together, used highlighters and crayons to add colour. The
poster is just the conversation opener really, the interactions with
the presenters is the interesting bit.

>
> On 6 Jun 2015 11:12, "Nicholas H.Tollervey"  wrote:
>>
>> This is going to be a wonderful thing. I've always enjoyed the poster
>> sessions at PyCon (US/NorthAmerica) and EuroPython. Glad to see it make
>> an appearance at PyCon UK. Many thanks to Naomi for making this happen.
>>
>> Get submitting! :-)
>>
>> N.
>>
>> On 06/06/15 11:01, Naomi Ceder wrote:
>> > And now for something completely different - the PyCon UK Poster
>> > Session!
>> >
>> > We are pleased to announce the very first PyCon UK poster session.
>> > Poster sessions, which are popular at scientific and academic
>> > conferences, give the presenter a chance to stand in front of a one
>> > meter square "poster" illustrating their topic, and interact with
>> > attendees as they pass by - answering questions, trading ideas, etc. in
>> > a much more "up close and personal" setting.
>> >
>> > Poster sessions are a good way for people to get started presenting at a
>> > conference, since one is only talking to a few people at a time. They
>> > are also a good venue for niche projects that might not get on a talk
>> > program, or for testing the waters with very new ideas.
>> >
>> > This year PyCon UK will be holding its first poster session, accepting
>> > up to 20 posters. For more information, and to find out how to submit a
>> > poster, please visit our poster session page
>> > at http://www.pyconuk.org/posters/ or contact Naomi Ceder
>> > at naomi.ce...@gmail.com 
>> >
>> > (And please feel free to forward, repost, tweet, blog, or otherwise
>> > share the word!)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Naomi Ceder
>> > https://plus.google.com/u/0/111396744045017339164/about
>> >
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Re: [python-uk] URGENT: Volunteers for teacher collaboration please... :-)

[Zeth]

Hi Nick,

Put me down for Birmingham of course, probably can do Nottingham and
some of the Northern ones if needed.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

On 17 February 2016 at 08:30, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I realise I must sound like a stuck record about this sort of thing -
> please accept my sincere apologies.
>
> TL;DR: I need volunteers from around the country to support a twilight
> meetup of teachers happening in various parts of the UK. It's not
> difficult and likely to be a lot of fun and will only take a few hours
> of your time in the early evening of a single day. I may be able to
> cover travel expenses. Please get in touch. More detail below...
>
> Computing at School (see: http://www.computingatschool.org.uk/), a grass
> roots movement of computing teachers in the UK would like to run a
> series of training courses for "Master Teachers" in MicroPython on the
> BBC micro:bit during March. These teachers would go on to act as the
> seed / catalyst for other teachers who require Python training during a
> series of training events over the summer. Put simply, this is an
> exercise in Python evangelism for teachers.
>
> Master teachers are those who have demonstrated a combination of deep
> subject knowledge and teaching skill. Put simply, they're the most
> senior teachers you can get. They're also the leaders in the field and
> what they say or do influences many hundreds of their colleagues.
>
> The idea is for the master teachers to get together with Python
> developers (that'd be *you*) for a few hours to work through MicroPython
> related educational resources. These events would happen at university
> based hubs around the country. As a Python developer you'll *get a BBC
> micro:bit* and be expected to offer advice, answer questions and
> demonstrate Python as needed. Honestly, it's not an onerous task and
> will only last a few hours in a "twilight" session (i.e. after work).
>
> The locations and proposed dates are as follows:
>
> London: 25th February
> Birmingham: 9th March
> Nottingham: 15th March
> Lancaster: 16th March
> Newcastle: 17th March
> Hertfordshire: 21st March
> Manchester: 23rd March
> Southampton: 23rd March
>
> It's easy for UK Python to be very London-centric. This is an
> opportunity for Pythonistas throughout the UK to step up and get involved.
>
> Why should you volunteer a few hours of your time to help teachers? Need
> you ask? Your help and influence will ultimately contribute to the
> education of the next generation of programmers - your future
> colleagues. It's a way to give back to the community by fostering the
> next generation of Pythonistas with the help of the CAS Master Teachers.
> It's also, from a moral point of view, simply a selfless and
> unambiguously good thing to do.
>
> If you're thinking "oh, they won't want me", then YOU ARE EXACTLY THE
> PERSON WE NEED! Your experience, perspective and knowledge is invaluable
> and teachers need to hear from you. Rest assured, this will not be a
> difficult or high-pressure activity. In fact, it's likely to be a lot of
> fun.
>
> Remember that awesome person who mentored you and/or gave you a step up?
> Now's your chance to be that person for a group of master teachers.
>
> If this is of interest to you, please get in touch ASAP and I can start
> to coordinate things with CAS.
>
> I'm going to put in a grant request to the PSF to see if we can cover
> travel costs for developers. But there's no guarantee this will come about.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> N.
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Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

[Zeth]

On 18 May 2016 at 11:33, Hansel Dunlop  wrote:
>
> Maybe your friend has a project that he could spend his evenings working on
> instead? I would always hire someone who had made something over someone
> that hadn't.

My degrees are in econometrics and theology, and I also somehow found
myself making a living from writing code. I know theology is much more
practical than philosophy but I am sure the same logic applies*

Obviously I don't know anything about where you friend is in terms of
skills but he could just host his own bootcamp at home, nothing really
beats just getting down and writing software, a week doing that would
never be wasted.

I don't know if this counts as philosophy but I like this bit from one
of my heroes, GCC and Emacs inventor Richard Stallman#:

"Yoda's aphorism (“There is no ‘try’”) sounds neat, but it doesn't
work for me. I have done most of my work while anxious about whether I
could do the job, and unsure that it would be enough to achieve the
goal if I did. But I tried anyway, because there was no one but me
between the enemy and my city. Surprising myself, I have sometimes
succeeded."


Best Wishes,
Zeth

* I should point out that was a joke obviously, just in case the
computer science majors get confused.
# http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.en.html



>
> Hansel
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Nicholas H.Tollervey 
> wrote:
>>
>> As someone with a background in Philosophy I can see where your friend
>> is coming from. ;-)
>>
>> As far as I can tell, the bootcamps are not worth the money for the
>> following reasons:
>>
>> * They're expensive for what you get.
>> * They're all about cramming facts.
>> * They teach specific technologies rather than software engineering.
>>
>> Having said that, some may be quite good but your mileage might vary.
>>
>> What I would do is find a university that does evening classes (such as
>> Birkbeck College, University of London) or sign up to the OU for a
>> taster, and take an introductory course in programming. I'd also
>> encourage your friend to think of a problem they're interested in and
>> use that as the basis / inspiration for learning things. If they want to
>> learn Python, bring them to the London Python Code Dojo and get them to
>> engage with the community. Finally, if they want to jump in with both
>> feet, they could sign up for a "conversion" MSc in Computing (for people
>> with undergraduate degrees in non-computing subjects). That's what I did.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> N.
>>
>> On 18/05/16 10:59, John via python-uk wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > A philosopher friend of mine wants to transition into working as a
>> > software developer (paying work in philosophy being a bit rare). He
>> > lives in London, and is considering signing up for one of the Coding
>> > "Bootcamps" that various organisations run. I wondered if any of you
>> > have any recommendations you could make, and indeed whether any of these
>> > bootcamps teach Python?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
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Re: [python-uk] Coding "Bootcamps"

[Zeth]

On 18 May 2016 at 15:54, Nicholas H.Tollervey  wrote:
> On 18/05/16 15:52, Zeth wrote:
>> I know theology is much more
>> practical than philosophy but I am sure the same logic applies*
>
> I just snorted out my tea while laughing... :-D

:)

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[python-uk] Reminder: Python West Midlands meeting Saturday (tomorrow)

[Zeth]

Hello everyone,

I am back from exciting times in Finland and Suffolk! Missed you all.

First Python meetup of 2017, open to all. No experience required, free thanks
to this month's sponsor Blanc.

Saturday, February 11, 2017

12:00 PM to 3:00 PM

Blythe Valley Innovation Centre
Central Boulevard
B90 8AJ
Blythe Valley Park (map)

More information:
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Re: [python-uk] Reminder: Python West Midlands meeting Saturday (tomorrow)

[Zeth]

It is in the building called Innovation Centre.

On 10 Feb 2017 14:56, "Zeth"  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am back from exciting times in Finland and Suffolk! Missed you all.
>
> First Python meetup of 2017, open to all. No experience required, free
> thanks
> to this month's sponsor Blanc.
>
> Saturday, February 11, 2017
>
> 12:00 PM to 3:00 PM
>
> Blythe Valley Innovation Centre
> Central Boulevard
> B90 8AJ
> Blythe Valley Park (map)
>
> More information:
> https://www.meetup.com/pythonwm/events/237308956/?gj=co2&rv=co2
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Re: [python-uk] The UK Python Association

[Zeth]

Indeed thanks to both.

On 26 Jul 2017 13:36, "Daniele Procida"  wrote:

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017, Peter Inglesby  wrote:

>I'd like to thank Owen Campbell for the hard work to make this happen.

And Peter too.

Owen and Peter have put in a vast amount of effort on all things
Python-and-PyCon-UK-related recently, and I think we're all going to be
benefiting from them for some time to come.

Daniele

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Re: [python-uk] PyCon Namibia - and funds to attend

[Zeth]

I cannot go this year but I want to say thanks to Daniele and the PyCon
Society/UK Python Association for organising and funding this. I am a big
fan of twinning organisations with those in the developing world. Well done.

On 8 Jan 2018 11:59, "Daniele Procida"  wrote:

Dear Pythonistas in the UK,

The fourth PyCon Nambibia takes place next month: .

If you've ever wondered what it might be like to attend an African PyCon -
well, here's a chance.

Previous editions of PyCon Namibia have been attended by quite a number of
visitors from the UK (as well as Europe, USA, Canada). This year, there'll
be at least four people travelling from the UK to take part (including me,
I wouldn't miss it for anything).

It's highly recommended! Here's a rundown of last year's event: <
https://na.pycon.org/en/pycon-namibia-2017/>

The PyCon Society/UK Python Association is offering funds to help
travellers this year. The travel grants are open to anyone who is involved
in Python in the UK - if you're reading this, it almost certainly includes
you.

How to apply:

* drop a line to , introducing yourself, before the
15th January 2018
* give us an idea of what you intend to bring to the Namibian Python
community, and what you think you'll be able to bring back
* tell us how much you will need to make it possible for you to attend

You don't need to be a pillar of the community or a Python expert to be
considered. However, it's important to have an idea of why you're going.

The funds are intended to enrich both the Namibian and UK Python
communities through your participation.

Funds are limited of course, but as a guide, something between £500 and
£1000 could be considered reasonable. The airfare to Windhoek from the UK
is generally around £660. Accommodation in Namibia is inexpensive (ask me
for details if you need help planning). See also .

Regards,

Daniele

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[python-uk] Python West Midlands User Group

[Zeth Green]

Hello everyone,

Did you know the West Midlands is the home of Shakespeare, the steam
engine, J.R.R. Tolkien and the Spaghetti Junction?

It is now also home to the Python West Midlands User Group. Only three
days old, we already have two dozen members.

The Python West Midlands User Group aims to provide community and
discussion for Python users and to new-users who want to find out more
about the language.

Without further ado:
You can find the website here: http://pywm.eu
And the mailing list here: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/pywm

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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Re: [python-uk] INVITATION LETTER REQUEST

[Zeth Green]

How Ironic:

>I am from Nigeria.I have my own...
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Re: [python-uk] Python West Midlands User Group

[Zeth Green]

Hello Everyone,

We will be holding the first ever meeting on Friday 2nd February 2007,
as an informal evening where we can meet each other and discuss the
future of the group.

We are meeting in a reserved room at a Birmingham pub/restaurant
called the Bull. Most of us are planning to eat together (but this is
not compulsory). The Bull was founded in 1729, cooks fresh food, has a
fine collection of Real Ale and even Wireless Internet. We are
planning to start the group at 7.30pm, (I personally will be ordering
my food on the dot as I will be very hungry by then ; ).

The Bull is in Price Street, B4 6JU, it is on the corner of Price
Street and Loveday Street in the centre of the historic Gun Quarter,
near the Central Fire Station and Aston Uni. Buses 33, 51 and 52 stop
at the end of Price Street. The nearest rail station is Snow Hill. If
you are coming from out of town on public transport then email the
PyWM Mailing List and let us know ASAP and we can arrange to collect
you from New Street Rail Station.

For more details visit:
http://pywm.eu/pug/Meetings

On 27/11/06, Zeth Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Did you know the West Midlands is the home of Shakespeare, the steam
> engine, J.R.R. Tolkien and the Spaghetti Junction?
>
> It is now also home to the Python West Midlands User Group. Only three
> days old, we already have two dozen members.
>
> The Python West Midlands User Group aims to provide community and
> discussion for Python users and to new-users who want to find out more
> about the language.
>
> Without further ado:
> You can find the website here: http://pywm.eu
> And the mailing list here: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/pywm
>
> Best Wishes,
> Zeth
>
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Re: [python-uk] Help Please

[Zeth Green]

On 29/01/07, Michael Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this homework?

I was about to respond with a literal answer but I thought that too.
It was the mathematical terminology but especially this bit that made
me suspect:

> On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:45, Python Freak wrote:
Hint: You may find it useful to note that one incidence list
representation is...
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Re: [python-uk] Help Please

[Zeth Green]

On 29/01/07, Python Freak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am clueless about where to start.

Okay, I did economics for my first degree so we have something in
common! (Although I am not sure my maths ever got that deep). There
are many ways to do what you want. The first step is to mentally
translate what you want to do into Python's data types.

See here for a list of the basic types:
http://docs.python.org/tut/node7.html

Do not forget you can nest data types inside each other, so the most
basic matrix is a set of lists inside a list.

However once you understand what you are trying to do, it would then
be worth downing tools and looking into the numpy module as it has
many mathematical constructs all ready and abstracted for you.

Look at http://numpy.scipy.org/ for hours of fun(?). See for example,
https://networkx.lanl.gov/Reference/networkx.convert-module.html#to_numpy_matrix
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[python-uk] Python meetup in Birmingham, Friday 2nd Feb (tomorrow/today)

[Zeth Green]

Hello!

If anyone is in/near the Midlands, we are having a Python night in
Birmingham tomorrow (Friday 2nd) in a reserved pub/restaurant.

For more details, see the Python West Midlands website:
http://pywm.eu/

On 01/02/07, Simon Brunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Porterhouse[1], Covent Garden seemed rather popular last month, so
> I though we'd use it again. Once again, I'll try and get there in time
> to get a table, but even if I can't, we always seem to manage to get a
> fair amount of space as the evening wears on.
>
> See you there!
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Simon B
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/
>
> [1] http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/36/366
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Re: [python-uk] Yet Another UK Python Conference

[Zeth Green]

Well I am happy to get involved in whatever is worked out. At least
one successful event would be the way forward, perhaps one year in one
two and one in another.

PS. I love the reportlab toolkit. Excel is dead.

On 05/02/07, Andy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just spoke to John Pinner at Clocksoft on the phone - he's been off
> email for a couple of days and hasn't seen this thread.  He and others
> in the Midlands have been planning a UK event for a long time, and have
> venues lined up at around the same time - September (!). There is a
> meeting of some West Midlands user group on 24 Feb at which it will be
> discussed.
>
> Apparently he will see Michael Sparks at an event tomorrow so hopefully
> they can figure out how to space these things out.
>
> My 2p worth is that it would be great to have multiple events dotted
> around the country, especially if we can space them out a bit and none
> are so big that they knacker the organisers.
>
> John, please ack if/when you get this through the mailing list
>
> - Andy
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Re: [python-uk] Yet Another UK Python Conference

[Zeth Green]

On 05/02/07, Zeth Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> perhaps one year in one two and one in another.

= perhaps one year in one *town* and one year in another.
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Re: [python-uk] PyCamp UK !

[Zeth Green]

On 05/02/07, Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Would coding be appropriate or expected for groups that wanted to ?
> (bring your own laptop...)

Well John Pinner's plan is for a 'community conference' that includes
time and space for collaborative programming (i.e. a
sprint/Hackfests).

If people are staying in some kind of hotel or hostel then the
evenings always turn into that anyway! (Not always easy to understand
the results without the alcohol.)
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Re: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UK developers

[Zeth Green]

This website? http://pywm.eu/pug/

How about £15 for the three python ones? Sorry I cannot offer more
without knowing what the postage is likely to be.

On 06/03/07, Dave Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not poking fun. Your website is down with the following "Directory
> listing is denied"
> Can you give us what you think is a reasonable price?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've moved to ebooks (as I'm laptop driven these days) and am selling some 
> > well known and useful Python
> > books to those who prefer paper!  These are for UK people only as I'm not 
> > interested in shifting them
> > worldwide - too much hassle.  I also don't want to use Amazon or eBay as 
> > they're rubbish and I like my
> > books to go to a good home where they'll get worn out rather than get dusty.
> >
> > As follows (great books these!):
> >
> > * O'Reilly - Programming Python - 3rd ed 2006
> > * O'Reilly - Python Cookbook - 2nd ed 2005
> > * Manning - wxPython in Action - 1st ed 2006
> >
> > And some non-python goodness - possibly of use.
> >
> > * Wrox - Beginning MacOS X programming (Tiger OSX1.4) - 1st ed 2005
> > * PH - Operating Systems Design and Implementation - Minix 3! - 3rd ed 2006
> > * O'Reilly - C in a Nutshell - 1st ed 2005 (2006 reprint)
> > * Morgan Kauffman - 3D game engine design - 1st ed 2001
> >
> > Condition of all books is excellent - I look after them well!  I'll accept 
> > SENSIBLE offers for all of
> > these as they cost me a small fortune and will charge postage at Royal 
> > Mail's standard first cost.
> > Please drop me an email if anyone is interested in any titles.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Chris Smith
> > http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/
> >
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Re: [python-uk] Personal selection of Python books for sale to UK developers

[Zeth Green]

On 06/03/07, Dave Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No http://www.christhetechie.org.uk/ that website.

Well I see the problem, it says:

"Internet Information Services (IIS)"

That is normally a fatal error ;)
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Re: [python-uk] Python Developers wanted, Troon Scotland

[Zeth Green]

I also think it is good to post relevant jobs, but detail is good.
There is nothing worse than a recruitment person giving no details
whatsoever, so you have to assume it is porn company or something.

> As someone else pointed out, the post was a little short on information,
> though I did find via Google what I presume is the job you're referring to.

I assume you found this?

http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/JobSeeking/job30438737.html

I personally cannot move out of Birmingham until after the summer, but
after that put up lots of jobs :-)
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Re: [python-uk] PyCon UK

[Zeth Green]

Hi Richard,

I am a member of Python West Midlands and am one of the people that
volunteered to help organise the September conference.

On 15/06/07, Richard Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I registered a few weeks ago and paid by cheque but I haven't heard anything
> from them yet. They haven't even cleared by cheque yet.

Maybe you should not have mentioned it and you might have gone for
free! (just kidding)

I paid by card and it was done automatically, so it seems cheque
cashing is a bit slow,  sorry about that, this is the first time we
have done this, and we all volunteers and only a few of us are
authorised to deal with our bank account at the moment as it takes a
little while to get everyone identified with the bank, etc.

Your cheque will move from the secretary to the treasurer so I will
talk to them to see where it is now and I will email you off-list. If
you registered then you are in the database and have a place at the
conference and the dinner, so do not worry about that.

> Has anyone else registered for PyCon UK in Birmingham in September?

I have, and dozens of other people have taken up the early bird
discounts. Booking is still open at http://pyconuk.org/booking.html

For those of us without who are paying personally, rather than out of
employer's budgets, then you certainly do not want to pay the
unsubsidised final door price. The price is all inclusive, including
the conference dinner at one of Birmingham's poshest hotels.

If you have problems then just let us know, you can email
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which goes to all the volunteers or you can email me
or any of the volunteers directly if you prefer.

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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Re: [python-uk] PyCon UK

[Zeth Green]

On 15/06/07, Richard Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will there be paperwork?

I hope not, paperwork is a bit old fashioned. We try to keep all
relevant information on the website and wiki.

> And will it (and tee-shirts) come in the post? Or
> will we collect those at registration on the Saturday?

I assume it will be in some kind of bag with the conference CD and so
on, but it is still early days as yet.

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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[python-uk] Python West Midlands, Thursday 12 July, Birmingham

[Zeth Green]

Hello Everyone,

Our next meeting is held tomorrow night in the the Bull, Price Street,
Birmingham, West Midlands, B4 6JU. Wireless access is normally
available, as is a large range of pub food and real ale.

We will no doubt talk about the PyconUK conference that we are helping
to organise, probably we might mention Django, CGI and hear tales from
those coming back from Europython.

The meeting is open to all. In the unlikely event that you cannot spot
us in the pub, ask the landlady for 'John's lot'.

For more information respond to this post, visit http://pywm.eu , or
email me off-list.

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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[python-uk] Python UK talks announced

[Zeth Green]

Hello everyone,

The initial list of tutorials and talks are as follows, we'll be
publishing a full talks schedule before the conference. The lists
below do not include lightning talks, keynotes or activities happening
in the 'open space'. The talks are listed in no particular order.

Tutorials


These are the tutorials that will be held:

* Getting Started with Python, for people new to Python (Jonathan
Fine and John Pinner)
* Getting Started with Django (Andy McKay)
* Advanced Django (Simon Willison)
* The Reportlab PDF Kit, by Andy Robinson
* Introduction to PyQt4 GUI Programming, by Mark Summerfield
* Introduction Functional Programming in Python, by David Jones

Places on some of these tutorials will be limited, so soon there'll be
a booking form so you can reserve your place. There is no extra charge
for tutorials. The tutorials will be held within the main days
(September 8/9th 2007).

Talks
---

* Test Driven Development, Jonathan Hartley
* Researching Quality Assessment for Free Software, Paul Adams
* Python in Higher Education, Nick Efford
* Jackfield, the Web, and Python, Stuart Langridge
* Using and Developing with Python Eggs, Stephen Pascoe
* Translate Java into Python, Johnny Stovall
* IronPython in your Browser with Silverlight, Michael Foord
* The PyPy Project, Michael Hudson
* Python is the Future of Build Systems, Russel Winder
* Python Modules in Bible Research, Michael and Leslie Morrell
* Parsing Languages with mxTextTools, Marc-André Lemburg
* Building Systems with Kamaelia, Michael Sparks
* Kamaelia Core Internals, Michael Sparks
* Dealing with Tabular Data, Alex Willmer
* PayThyme - from Project to Product, John Pinner
* The Great Python, Ruby, Groovy, Java, C, C++, C#, VB Debate, Russel Winder
* Hacking Democracy, Julian Todd
* The Bazaar Version Control Project, Michael Hudson
* A Pythonista's Year at Kew, Julius Welby
* An Introduction to Twisted, Richard Wall
* Twisted Performance with Large Apps, Tim Parkin
* Twisted Movies, Matthew Pontefract
* Creating GUI Applications with PyQt and Qt Designer, David Boddie
* Stackless Introduction, Christian Tismer
* Stackless Internals, Christian Tismer
* Designing Unicode-aware Applications in Python, Marc-André Lemburg
* Managing Creativity, Michael Sparks
* FluidInfo - towards the next everything, Terry Jones
* The New Age of the Amateur: End-user Computing without Tears, Giles Thomas
* MathTran - Typesetting TeX with Python, Jonathan Fine
* Dynamic Web Apps with Ajax and Python, David Chan

For more info see http://pyconuk.org

To book please visit http://pyconuk.org/booking.html

Please note that the early-bird rate is closing imminently.

Best Wishes,
Zeth
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