Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
On Friday, December 27, 2013 7:25:42 PM UTC-5, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 27Dec2013 07:40, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal > > > places. Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. > > > maybe i used datetime? thanks! > > > > Repeatedly people have asked you to show your exact code. Still nothing. > > > > Here's a clue, from a Gentoo box running kernel 3.2.1-gentoo-r2: > > > > $ python > > Python 2.7.2 (default, Feb 9 2012, 18:40:46) > > [GCC 4.5.3] on linux2 > > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > > >>> import time; print time.time() > > 1388190100.44 > > >>> import time; time.time() > > 1388190102.795531 > > >>> > > > > Please show us _exactly_ what you're doing. I'm guessing that print > > is confusing you. > > > matt@matt-Inspiron-1525:~$ python Python 2.7.3 (default, Sep 26 2013, 16:38:10) [GCC 4.7.2] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import time; print time.time() 1388371148.39 >>> import time; time.time() 1388371173.556624 >>> i get the same result as you expect. so its got to be the write statement that is truncated the decimal places right? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
On Friday, December 27, 2013 1:49:54 PM UTC-5, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 12/27/13 1:09 PM, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > On Friday, December 27, 2013 11:27:58 AM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote:
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> >> In article <0c33b7e4-edc9-4e1e-b919-fec210c92...@googlegroups.com>,
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> >> matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote:
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> >>> I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places.
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> >>> Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. maybe i used
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> >>> datetime? thanks!
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> >> That's strange. Linux should give you time to the microsecond, or
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> >> something in that range.
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> >> Please post the *exact* code you're running. The code you posted
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> >> earlier is obviously only a fragment of some larger program, so we can
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> >> only guess what's happening. Assuming your program is in a file called
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> >> "prog.py", run the following commands and copy-paste the output:
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> > i cant run it that way. i tried using the python prompt in terminal but
> > got nothing. but here is all the code relevant to this issue:
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> > #all the imports
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> > import sys
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> > import posixpath
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> > import time
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> > from time import strftime
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> > from datetime import datetime
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> > import os
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> > import wx
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> > import cPickle as pickle
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> > import gnuradio.gr.gr_threading as _threading
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> > #the function that writes the time values
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> > def update(self, field_values):
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> > now = datetime.now()
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> > #logger ---
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> > # new line to write on
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> > self.logfile.write('\n')
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> > # write date, time, and seconds from the epoch
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> > self.logfile.write('%s\t'%(strftime("%Y-%m-%d",)))
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> > self.logfile.write('%s\t'%(now.strftime("%H:%M:%S",)))
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> > self.logfile.write('%s\t'%(time.time()))
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> > # list to store dictionary keys in tis order
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> > keys = ["duid", "nac", "tgid", "source", "algid", "kid"]
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> > # loop through the keys in the right order
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> > for k in keys:
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> > # get the value of the current key
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> > f = field_values.get(k, None)
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> > # if data unit has value...
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> > if f:
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> > # output the value with trailing tab
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> > self.logfile.write('%s\t'%(str(f)))
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> > # if data unit doesnt have this value print a tab
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> > else:
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> > self.logfile.write('\t')
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> > #end logger
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> > #if the field 'duid' == 'hdu', then clear fields
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> > if field_values['duid'] == 'hdu':
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> > self.clear()
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> > elif field_values['duid'] == 'ldu1':
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> > self.clear()
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> > elif field_values['duid'] == 'ldu2':
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> > self.clear()
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> > #elif field_values['duid'] == 'tdu':
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> > # self.clear()
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> > #loop through all TextCtrl fields storing the key/value pairs in
> > k, v
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> > for k,v in self.fields.items():
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> > # get the dict value for this TextCtrl
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> > f = field_values.get(k, None)
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> > # if the value is empty then set the new value
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> > if f:
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> > v.SetValue(f)
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> > #sample output in a .txt file:
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.18
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.36
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.54
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.73
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.91
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.11
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.28
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.48
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.66
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.84
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:371388164057.62
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:371388164057.81
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:371388164057.99
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.18
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.37
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.54
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.73
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> > 2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.92
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> > Thanks!
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> "%.6f" % time.time()
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> %.6f is a formatting code meaning, floating-point number, 6 decimal places.
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> --
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> Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com
thanks a bunch. the "%.6f" was the cure. can you please point me to the doc
for formatting time? Thanks!
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Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
On 12/29/13 9:44 PM, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 27, 2013 7:25:42 PM UTC-5, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 27Dec2013 07:40, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places. Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. maybe i used datetime? thanks! Repeatedly people have asked you to show your exact code. Still nothing. Here's a clue, from a Gentoo box running kernel 3.2.1-gentoo-r2: $ python Python 2.7.2 (default, Feb 9 2012, 18:40:46) [GCC 4.5.3] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import time; print time.time() 1388190100.44 >>> import time; time.time() 1388190102.795531 >>> Please show us _exactly_ what you're doing. I'm guessing that print is confusing you. matt@matt-Inspiron-1525:~$ python Python 2.7.3 (default, Sep 26 2013, 16:38:10) [GCC 4.7.2] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. import time; print time.time() 1388371148.39 import time; time.time() 1388371173.556624 i get the same result as you expect. so its got to be the write statement that is truncated the decimal places right? Objects in Python have two different ways to produce a string of themselves, known as the str() and the repr(). A float's str() includes two decimal points of precision, its repr() includes as many as you'd need to reproduce the float again. The print statement implicitly uses the str(), the interactive interpreter uses the repr(). Luckily, you can decide how to format the float yourself: >>> import time >>> time.time() 1388407706.617985 >>> print time.time() 1388407709.21 >>> print "%.3f" % time.time() 1388407716.377 >>> print "%.4f" % time.time() 1388407726.1001 BTW, I said something very similar in this thread 2.5 days ago: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-December/663454.html I get the feeling not all messages are flowing to all places. -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
On 12/30/13 7:50 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote: BTW, I said something very similar in this thread 2.5 days ago: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-December/663454.html I get the feeling not all messages are flowing to all places. Oops, and now Matt's reply to that message has just arrived! Sorry for the noise. -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:01:21 AM UTC-5, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 12/30/13 7:50 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
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> > BTW, I said something very similar in this thread 2.5 days ago:
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> > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-December/663454.html
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> > I get the feeling not all messages are flowing to all places.
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> Oops, and now Matt's reply to that message has just arrived! Sorry for
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> the noise.
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> --
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> Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com
the formatting:
self.logfile.write('%.6f\t'%(time.time()))
fixed it. thank you very much.
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Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
On 30/12/2013 12:16, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, December 27, 2013 1:49:54 PM UTC-5, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 12/27/13 1:09 PM, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, December 27, 2013 11:27:58 AM UTC-5, Roy Smith wrote:
In article <0c33b7e4-edc9-4e1e-b919-fec210c92...@googlegroups.com>,
matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote:
I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places.
Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. maybe i used
datetime? thanks!
That's strange. Linux should give you time to the microsecond, or
something in that range.
Please post the *exact* code you're running. The code you posted
earlier is obviously only a fragment of some larger program, so we can
only guess what's happening. Assuming your program is in a file called
"prog.py", run the following commands and copy-paste the output:
i cant run it that way. i tried using the python prompt in terminal but got
nothing. but here is all the code relevant to this issue:
#all the imports
import sys
import posixpath
import time
from time import strftime
from datetime import datetime
import os
import wx
import cPickle as pickle
import gnuradio.gr.gr_threading as _threading
#the function that writes the time values
def update(self, field_values):
now = datetime.now()
#logger ---
# new line to write on
self.logfile.write('\n')
# write date, time, and seconds from the epoch
self.logfile.write('%s\t'%(strftime("%Y-%m-%d",)))
self.logfile.write('%s\t'%(now.strftime("%H:%M:%S",)))
self.logfile.write('%s\t'%(time.time()))
# list to store dictionary keys in tis order
keys = ["duid", "nac", "tgid", "source", "algid", "kid"]
# loop through the keys in the right order
for k in keys:
# get the value of the current key
f = field_values.get(k, None)
# if data unit has value...
if f:
# output the value with trailing tab
self.logfile.write('%s\t'%(str(f)))
# if data unit doesnt have this value print a tab
else:
self.logfile.write('\t')
#end logger
#if the field 'duid' == 'hdu', then clear fields
if field_values['duid'] == 'hdu':
self.clear()
elif field_values['duid'] == 'ldu1':
self.clear()
elif field_values['duid'] == 'ldu2':
self.clear()
#elif field_values['duid'] == 'tdu':
# self.clear()
#loop through all TextCtrl fields storing the key/value pairs in k, v
for k,v in self.fields.items():
# get the dict value for this TextCtrl
f = field_values.get(k, None)
# if the value is empty then set the new value
if f:
v.SetValue(f)
#sample output in a .txt file:
2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.18
2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.36
2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.54
2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.73
2013-12-27 12:07:331388164053.91
2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.11
2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.28
2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.48
2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.66
2013-12-27 12:07:341388164054.84
2013-12-27 12:07:371388164057.62
2013-12-27 12:07:371388164057.81
2013-12-27 12:07:371388164057.99
2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.18
2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.37
2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.54
2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.73
2013-12-27 12:07:381388164058.92
Thanks!
Instead of:
"%s" % time.time()
try:
"%.6f" % time.time()
%.6f is a formatting code meaning, floating-point number, 6 decimal places.
--
Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com
thanks a bunch. the "%.6f" was the cure. can you please point me to the doc
for formatting time? Thanks!
Would you please read and action this
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing the
double line spacing above, thanks.
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what you can do for our language.
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Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
In article , Ned Batchelder wrote: > A float's str() includes two decimal points of precision It's actually weirder than that. What str() appears to do is print some variable number of digits after the decimal place, depending on the magnitude of the number, and then flips over to exponential notation at some point. All of this is in line with str()'s intent, which is to produce a human-friendly string: for i in range(15): f = 10**i + 0.123456789 print "%-20s %-20s" % (str(f), repr(f)) $ python float.py 1.123456789 1.123456789 10.123456789 10.123456789 100.123456789100.123456789 1000.123456791000.123456789 1.12345681.123456789 10.12345710.123456789 100.12346100.123456789 1000.12351000.12345679 1.1231.12345679 10.1210.1234568 100.1100.123457 1e+111000.12346 1e+121.1234 1e+1310.123 1e+14100.12 It just happens that for the range of values time.time() is returning these days, two decimal digits is what you get. Unix time rolled over to this many digits on >>> time.ctime(9) 'Sat Sep 8 21:46:39 2001' so before then, str(time.time()) would have (presumably) generated 3 decimal digits. Note that repr() also adjusts the number of digits after the decimal place, but this is because it's run out of available hardware precision (IEEE double precision is about 16 decimal digits). Also note that while repr() is smart enough to stop when it runs out of bits, the %f format specifier isn't: >>> f = 10.123456789 >>> repr(f) '10.123' >>> "%.6f" % f '10.123047' [Ned, again] > Luckily, you can decide how to format the float yourself: > [...] > >>> print "%.4f" % time.time() > 1388407726.1001 The problem here is that you have no guarantee here that all those digits are meaningful. I'm not sure what would happen on a machine where the system clock only gives centisecond precision. I would like to think "%.4f" % time.time() would always produce a string with 4 digits after the decimal point, the last two of which were guaranteed to be "0". But not having such a box handy to test, that's just a conjecture. A much more pathological case would be that it produces random garbage for the extra digits, which would make it appear that you were getting more time precision than you really were. All of which is a good reason to avoid raw timestamps and use datetime. With a datatime object, somebody else has already worried about these things for you. PS: all the above examples were done with Python 2.7.1 on OSX 10.7. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyDev 3.2.0 Released
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:16:03 AM UTC-5, Fabio Zadrozny wrote: > [lots of stuff] > What is PyDev? > --- > > PyDev is a plugin that enables users to use Eclipse for Python... A suggestion for announcements of this type. Put the "What is X" part up front, so people can quickly tell if this is something they're interested in or not. [I don't use Eclipse myself, but this looks like a cool project] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
>> On 30/12/2013 12:16, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> thanks a bunch. the "%.6f" was the cure. >> can you please point me to the doc for formatting time? >> Thanks! >> > Would you please read and action this > https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython > to prevent us seeing the double line spacing above, thanks. You might consider either turning off an option in your news client for including message in reply and/or snipping all but a few lines for context to prevent us from seeing the double line spacing all over again :-) -- Stanley C. Kitching Human Being Phoenix, Arizona -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
On 30/12/2013 17:07, Cousin Stanley wrote: On 30/12/2013 12:16, matt.doolittl...@gmail.com wrote: thanks a bunch. the "%.6f" was the cure. can you please point me to the doc for formatting time? Thanks! Would you please read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us seeing the double line spacing above, thanks. You might consider either turning off an option in your news client for including message in reply and/or snipping all but a few lines for context to prevent us from seeing the double line spacing all over again :-) Great idea, but one slight snag is the poster then doesn't see how many newlines they've managed to insert using their superb tool. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: cascading python executions only if return code is 0
On 2013-12-27, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Ethan Furman wrote: > >> Mostly I don't want newbies thinking "Hey! I can use assertions for all my >> confidence testing!" > > How about this one, that I wrote yesterday; > > assert second >= self.current_second, "time went backwards" > > I think that's pretty high up on the "can never happen" list. It's not that high (depending on where you're getting "second" from). If the "second" is from the time of day, and the NTP daemon (or the system admin) decides the clock needs a stepwise adjustment, the time of day can go backwards. -- Grant -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
>> You might consider either turning off an option >> in your news client for including message in reply >> and/or snipping all but a few lines for context >> to prevent us from seeing the double line spacing >> all over again :-) > Great idea, but one slight snag is > the poster then doesn't see how many newlines > they've managed to insert using their superb tool. A few lines to illustrate along with your standard reference might be enough https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython I am on Ubuntu 12.10. I am still working with the 2 decimal places. > >>> > Sometime ago i had this issue and I forget how i solved it. maybe i used > >>> > datetime? thanks! -- Stanley C. Kitching Human Being Phoenix, Arizona -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Dictionary
I have a txt file with some words, and need simply program that will print me words containing provided letters. For example: Type the letters: (I type: g,m,o) open the dictionary.txt check words containing:g,m,o in dictionary.txt if there are words containing: ["g", "m", "o" ] print words with g,m,o -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Dictionary
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:38:20 +, Bischoop wrote: > I have a txt file with some words, and need simply program that will > print me words containing provided letters. > > For example: > Type the letters: > (I type: g,m,o) > open the dictionary.txt > check words containing:g,m,o in dictionary.txt > if there are words containing: ["g", "m", "o" ] > print words with g,m,o Well, what have you tried so far, and what result did you get? The incredibly helpful people here will provide advice, guidance and pointers, but it won't help you at all if they just do your homework for you. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: need to print seconds from the epoch including the millisecond
Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 30/12/2013 17:07, Cousin Stanley wrote: [...] >>> Would you please read and action this >>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython >>> to prevent us seeing the double line spacing above, thanks. >> >> You might consider either turning off an option >> in your news client for including message in reply >> and/or snipping all but a few lines for context >> to prevent us from seeing the double line spacing >> all over again :-) >> > > Great idea, Yes it is. It's a bloody brilliant idea. If only there were some sort of delete or backspace key on the keyboard that would allow the person replying to trim or snip excess quoting... > but one slight snag is the poster then doesn't see how many > newlines they've managed to insert using their superb tool. So what? Chances are that Google Groups will cleverly hide the quoting from them anyway, which means that you're not demonstrating the problem to them, you're just spamming the group with double-spaced, excessively quoted, irrelevant text. Even if they see the quoted text, half a dozen lines is more than enough to demonstrate the problem to any reasonable person, they can extrapolate from that. If half a dozen quoted lines isn't enough to persuade them to read the link, a million lines won't be. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Re: Spam trash sent to python-list from google-groups
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Blog "about python 3"
http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Idle Problems
Hi I just joined this list and have a question.I have python 3.3.3 and running it on a windows 7 computer.Python has been running good until recently.I can bring up python shell,but when I go to run a recently loaded program,the code comes up briefly on the screen and then disappears.Python just quits and then I have to start over.Can someone tell me what is happening?I’m new to python and am just learning.Thanks-- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Blog "about python 3"
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to > some of you. I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for sending eyeballs to look at such a pile of steaming bullshit. I'd like to know where Alex gets the idea that the transition of Python 2 to 3 was supposed to be a five year plan. As far as I know, it was a ten year plan, and we're well ahead of expectations of where we would be at this point of time. People *are* using Python 3, the major Linux distros are planning to move to Python 3, the "Python Wall Of Shame" stopped being a wall of shame a long time ago (I think it was a year ago? or at least six months ago). Alex's article is, basically, FUD. More comments will have to follow later. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Idle Problems
On 30/12/2013 18:43, rpuc...@cox.net wrote:
Hi I just joined this list and have a question.I have python 3.3.3 and
running it on a windows 7 computer.Python has been running good until
recently.I can bring up python shell,but when I go to run a recently
loaded program,the code comes up briefly on the screen and then
disappears.Python just quits and then I have to start over.Can someone
tell me what is happening?I’m new to python and am just learning.Thanks
Hi, welcome to Python.
This is a common question and has been answered quite a few times on
this list, including quite recently. However, I can't for the life of me
find an example of such an answer in the archives! (Someone's sure to
help me out here).
In short, you'd do better to start up a console window (using Start >
Run > cmd.exe or any other way you choose). You can then cd to the
directory your code is in, and run the programs that way. The thing is
that, if your program looks like this:
import sys
print("Hello, World!)
print("I'm running Python version ", sys.version)
then, when you double-click, your program will run in a console window,
print its brief output, and exit, all before you've really noticed
what's going on!
Have a look here:
http://docs.python.org/3.3/faq/windows
and here:
http://docs.python.org/3.3/using/windows.html
for some amount of help.
TJG
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Re: Idle Problems
On 12/30/2013 1:43 PM, rpuc...@cox.net wrote: Hi I just joined this list and have a question.I have python 3.3.3 and running it on a windows 7 computer.Python has been running good until recently.I can bring up python shell,but when I go to run a recently loaded program,the code comes up briefly on the screen and then disappears.Python just quits and then I have to start over.Can someone tell me what is happening?I’m new to python and am just learning.Thanks What do you mean by "run a recently loaded program"? and by "the code comes up briefly on the screen and then disappears"? We could guess but that is a waste of time. How did you load it? What did you do to run it? Be as thorough and specific as you can. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Blog "about python 3"
On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for sending eyeballs to look at such a pile of steaming bullshit. I'd like to know where Alex gets the idea that the transition of Python 2 to 3 was supposed to be a five year plan. As far as I know, it was a ten year plan, and we're well ahead of expectations of where we would be at this point of time. People *are* using Python 3, the major Linux distros are planning to move to Python 3, the "Python Wall Of Shame" stopped being a wall of shame a long time ago (I think it was a year ago? or at least six months ago). Alex's article is, basically, FUD. More comments will have to follow later. http://nuitka.net/posts/re-about-python-3.html is a response. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python 2.x and 3.x usage survey
I keep hearing naysayers, nay saying about Python 3.x. Here's a 9 question, multiple choice survey I put together about Python 2.x use vs Python 3.x use. I'd be very pleased if you could take 5 or 10 minutes to fill it out. Here's the URL: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N5N5PG2 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.x and 3.x usage survey
On 2013.12.30 15:56, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I keep hearing naysayers, nay saying about Python 3.x. > > Here's a 9 question, multiple choice survey I put together about > Python 2.x use vs Python 3.x use. > > I'd be very pleased if you could take 5 or 10 minutes to fill it out. > > Here's the URL: > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N5N5PG2 > It was closer to 5 or 10 seconds. :) -- CPython 3.3.3 | Windows NT 6.2.9200 / FreeBSD 10.0 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Blog "about python 3"
On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for sending eyeballs to look at such a pile of steaming bullshit. http://nuitka.net/posts/re-about-python-3.html is a response. Wow -- another steaming pile! Mark, are you going for a record? ;) -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.x and 3.x usage survey
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Dan Stromberg wrote: > I keep hearing naysayers, nay saying about Python 3.x. > > Here's a 9 question, multiple choice survey I put together about > Python 2.x use vs Python 3.x use. > > I'd be very pleased if you could take 5 or 10 minutes to fill it out. > > Here's the URL: > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N5N5PG2 Will be interested to see the stats at the end of that survey! Though of course posting to this list does give some inherent bias. But I suspect the stats will show a large proportion of people are comfortable on Py3. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Blog "about python 3"
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> >> On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. >>> >>> >>> I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for >>> sending eyeballs to look at such a pile of steaming bullshit. >> >> >> http://nuitka.net/posts/re-about-python-3.html is a response. > > > Wow -- another steaming pile! Mark, are you going for a record? ;) Does this steam? http://rosuav.blogspot.com/2013/12/about-python-3-response.html ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 2.x and 3.x usage survey
On 30Dec2013 19:16, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:14:53 -0600, Andrew Berg > declaimed the following: > > >On 2013.12.30 15:56, Dan Stromberg wrote: > >> I keep hearing naysayers, nay saying about Python 3.x. > >> > >> Here's a 9 question, multiple choice survey I put together about > >> Python 2.x use vs Python 3.x use. > >> > >> I'd be very pleased if you could take 5 or 10 minutes to fill it out. > >> > >> Here's the URL: > >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N5N5PG2 > >> > >It was closer to 5 or 10 seconds. :) > > If that much... > > Too many questions require a positive response to a previous question > (for example, if one has not written Python 3.x, one is also unlikely to > have used any of the porting tools). How complex do you want it to be? One can post filter the results for relevance I suppose. My only gripe is the "do you write more code for 2.x or 3.x" question; I do in fact write more python 2 (I suppose), but since I'm striving to make my codebase portable between 2 and 3 the question is a poor fit. There is at least the "do you write code to run on both?" later. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson SPSS. Big honkin' stats package. Comes with a good manual. - Dan Hillman -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3.3.2 Shell Message
Thanks Ned. That did the trick! Jason Briggs, author of Python of Kids, gave me the same answer. Happy to be over this hurdle. Thanks! Happy New Year!! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Blog "about python 3"
On 30/12/2013 22:38, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for sending eyeballs to look at such a pile of steaming bullshit. http://nuitka.net/posts/re-about-python-3.html is a response. Wow -- another steaming pile! Mark, are you going for a record? ;) -- ~Ethan~ Merely pointing out the existence of these little gems in order to find out people's feelings about them. You never know, we might even end up with a thread whereby the discussion is Python, the whole Python and nothing but the Python. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Blog "about python 3"
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > You never know, we might even end up with a thread whereby the discussion is > Python, the whole Python and nothing but the Python. What, on python-list??! [1] That would be a silly idea. We should avoid such theories with all vigor. ChrisA [1] In C, that would be interpreted as "What, on python-list|" and would confuse everyone. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Blog "about python 3"
On 12/30/2013 08:25 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Wow -- another steaming pile! Mark, are you going for a record? ;) Indeed. Every post that disagrees with my opinion and understanding of the situation is complete BS and a conspiracy to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Henceforth I will explain few to no specific disagreements, nor will I give anyone the benefit of the doubt, because that would be silly. Couldn't of said it better myself! Well, except for the "my opinion" part -- obviously it's not my opinion, but reality! ;) -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Blog "about python 3"
On 31/12/2013 01:09, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/30/2013 01:29 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 30/12/2013 20:49, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:41:44 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: http://alexgaynor.net/2013/dec/30/about-python-3/ may be of interest to some of you. I don't know whether to thank you for the link, or shout at you for sending eyeballs to look at such a pile of steaming bullshit. http://nuitka.net/posts/re-about-python-3.html is a response. Wow -- another steaming pile! Mark, are you going for a record? ;) Does this steam? http://rosuav.blogspot.com/2013/12/about-python-3-response.html ChrisA I'd have said restrained. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Fwd: Mailing list erraticness
Accidental off-list reply. :) On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: On 12/30/2013 08:25 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: Wow -- another steaming pile! Mark, are you going for a record? ;) Indeed. Every post that disagrees with my opinion and understanding of the situation is complete BS and a conspiracy to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Henceforth I will explain few to no specific disagreements, nor will I give anyone the benefit of the doubt, because that would be silly. Couldn't of said it better myself! Well, except for the "my opinion" part -- obviously it's not my opinion, but reality! ;) More mailing list erraticness: I see Ethan's comment on Devin but not Devin's post Neither in GG nor in my email -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
