Support Changes
Did I just read that Red Hat is dropping it's support down to one year for it's non-Advanced Server products? -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Support Changes
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 09:46, Jesse Keating wrote: > Yes, but the way it's worded protects Red Hat from lawsuits if they ever go > out of business. By stating that they would absolutly support foo, for bar > years, they would be stuck with it, even if they ran out of money and > everything, and they would be open to all kinds of lawsuits. > Software companies are basically immune to lawsuits due to defects anyways. Considering I just wrote up paper for my company which concludes that we should be deploying Red Hat rather than other distributions, Red Hat might want to consider who their real supporters are. It's those of us that have been hacking Linux, and Red Hat specifically, for years that are making these kinds of recommendations to our companies. I'm not going to pay $800/year support for a web server. I might pay that for the servers in an Oracle Cluster. I'd rather just run a batch of Red Hat 7.3 servers with minimal installs for web servers. I won't even consider using 8.0 for that.. it's just too new. Therefore, 7.2 or 7.3 will be my only choices for this. IBM Websphere, and their version of Apache called IBM HTTP Server, is only supported up to Red Hat 7.2. So now what do I do? Lose support from IBM by hacking it into Red Hat 8.x, or lose it from Red Hat by running under the version supported by IBM? By the way I LOVE Mondo Rescue... -- Edward Simmonds Oracle Certified DBA: 8i, 9i Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche) running Kernel 2.4.18-19.8.0 Uptime: 12:47pm up 4:23, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.45, 0.51 - Real men don't send html email. -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Wanted: Rawhide kernel
Thanks for the response. I may try it your way, but I'd still like to know.. Where's the Rawhide kernel Thanks! Ed On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 11:30, Joshua Andrews wrote: > Zaphod wrote: > > >Pardon me for an incredibly stupid question, but where is the rawhide > >kernel? Is it a "kernel-source" RPM somewhere? I can't find it > >anywhere on Red Hat's ftp sites or mirrors. Specifically I want to play > >with the latest XFree86 stuff (Mike Harris are you out there?), which > >requires the latest kernel from Rawhide. > > > >So, where's the kernel hiding? > > > >Thanks, > >Ed > > > > > > > > > > > I believe you can use a stock 8.0 kernel as long as you build the drm > modules from the Xfree86 tree. > I had to build the whole tree before I could build the modules. > I am running XFree86-4.2.99.2-0.20021110.10 with 2.4.18-18.80smp kernel > --Radeon 7200. > The last rawhide kernel I tried nearly cooked my system --YMMV. > > Joshua > > > > > -- > Psyche-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list > -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: /usr at 100%
Something that may be more work for you but works for me: Back up with Mondo Rescue (LOVE IT). When you restore, you can redefine the partitions and use some of the space on your / partition. Good luck. On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 07:34, Craig White wrote: > my /usr partition is almost completely filled up and it's bothering me. > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda9 4569824 1032864 3304824 24% / > /dev/hda1 132207 25532 99849 21% /boot > /dev/hda6 10325748 8586104 1215124 88% /home > /dev/hda7 3099260 3090492 0 100% /usr > /dev/hda5 10325748900456 8900772 10% /var > none192624 0192624 0% /dev/shm > > This machine was originally set up with 7.1, updated to 7.2, then 7.3 > and now 8.0 > > partition is 3 GB and I have removed all unnecessary kernels but I would > love to know if there are any other likely candidates for removal to > create a little extra space in the event that I want to install any new > stuff on this. I have this machine slated for reformat in the next 6 > months but I'd like to have some working space on this in the meantime. > > Craig > -- Edward SimmondsOCP 8i, 9i DBA Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche) running Kernel 2.4.18-19.8.0 8:44am up 29 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.29, 0.26 - Real men don't send html email. -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Boot hangs loading loopback interface
Anyone else have this problem. After an Upgrade of RH 7.3 to 8.0, I reboot and the system hangs loading the loopback interface. (Pentium 4 mobile, it's a Sony laptop which ran RH 7.3 like a dream). Luckily I had another kernel in there to boot from... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Boot hangs loading loopback interface
Replying to my own post: I still can't boot the default kernel. I recompiled the i686 kernel using the default config. Same problem on boot. The funny thing is, I can boot a 2.4.19rc2 kernel I compiled under RH 7.3 with no problems. Ideas are welcome. On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 11:54, Ed wrote: > Anyone else have this problem. After an Upgrade of RH 7.3 to 8.0, I > reboot and the system hangs loading the loopback interface. (Pentium 4 > mobile, it's a Sony laptop which ran RH 7.3 like a dream). > > Luckily I had another kernel in there to boot from... > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: HowTo Install X afther a server type installation
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 11:50:30AM +, Mr. Adam ALLEN wrote: > On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 11:24, Dario Lesca wrote: > > HowTo Install X+Gnome afther a standard setup "Server Mode"? > > > > redhat-config-package non work in consol mode > > > > The comps.xml file will give you the biggest clue of which rpms you > need. Look for gnome-desktop and base-x, then reading > between the XML you will be able to pick out packages to install. > > You may need to spend a bit of time solving dependencies, I once was > going to do the same, but a hard-drive failed and so a fresh install was > required. You can solve the dependencies more easily by using up2date. Pick a package that has lots of dependencies and install it first. up2date should bring in all the pieces it needs, including X and the gnome libraries. Something like switchdesk* could help bring these in. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RAID LargeDisks and UATA Serious Problems
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 12:55:04PM +0100, zeist wrote: > Greetings > > I'm facing serious problems with a Raid partition on UATA133 bus. > The box is a dual athlon MP with asus MB and REDHAT 8.0. > The entire system except /home stand on two IBM 80Gb disks (on uata 100 > bus) in Raid 1 with ext3. > The /home partition stand on 3 Maxtor 120Gb "diamondmax plus 9" uata133 in > Raid 5 with ext3. > The system ran fine with 2.4.18-18.8.0smp official redhat kernel and the 3 > Maxtor disks attached to and external Adaptec controller based on > highpoint hpt370 chipset (note, i used just the ide bus functionality, > since Raid was software). I think you're starting to realize why we like the Red Hat kernels. Red Hat does a *lot* of work testing and patching the kernels so that they work well in different configurations. Many patches don't appear in vanilla kernels until a future release. > When i switched to 2.4.19 vanilla kernel i started to have problems, first May I ask why you switched? Although the release number went up, you lost a lot of patches that Red Hat had applied. What problem were you trying to solve? My suggesting at this point would be to restore your system back to the way it was before you had problems. Depending on the level of corruption you've already created, you may need to re-init the disks and restore the files from backups. > Theres nothing to do, problems persist, not only during high i/o > throughtput, but also when i start to store large data on partition. > I fell back to 2.4.18-18.8.0smp I didn't install the promise patch since > it seem to me that is already included in rh kernel) without succes, it > seem that when the data on disks reach about 30% of capacity troubles and >corruptions You should also go back to your original controller. After all, it worked! > I also thinking about basic design errors, since i have 3 uata 133 disks > attached to a single pci controller all with dma access activated, > somebody can confirm that this could represent a bandwith problem? Even if you have a bandwidth problem, you should not have corruption. At worst you should slow down, not corrupt data unless you have have a faulty motherboard or controller. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Package Manager
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 07:05:13AM -0600, naugaranch wrote:
> That I've done and am familiar with. But I'm looking for the PACKAGE
> MANAGER - the one that installas or removes function from the system. Like
> adding an RPM because I want MYSQL, for example.
You were pointed in the right direction. up2date can be used to add
packages as well as update them.
.../Ed
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Re: Source code location
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:03:12PM -0600, utkarsh trivedi wrote: > I am novice to this O.S. I would like to know where the source code > directory is located. By default it was supposed to be at usr/src/linux, but > in Linux 8.0, I could not find it. By default, the sources are not installed, but all the source RPMs are on your source CDs, ready to go. Once they're installed, they'll be in the /usr/src/linux directory (the default), or wherever you've installed them. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Version questions
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 11:44:00AM -0500, Buck wrote: > I noticed on the Red Hat site that I can download for free > version 8.0, which I have done. But there is also mention of Red Hat > Advanced Server. Is that the same set of discs with a different level > of support? Or is that a different set of discs? If it is a different > set of discs, are they available for free download or discs only for a > low price? I don't know if I need them right away, but I would rather > not have to upgrade later if I can set it up from the start and become > more familiar with the product. Unless you need the clustering ability and a high level of Red Hat provide support, 8.0 is adequate. You will be required to do more frequent upgrades to get security-related fixes, but you'll also get more leading-edge features. AS is targeted at enterprises as is obvious from its price tag. AW, when it ships later this spring (?) will come with a lower price tag, no clustering, and have a similar support structure as AS. > I have the Red Hat Linux 7.2 Bible and Red Hat 8.0 discs. Is > 8.0 similar enough to 7.2 that I can use the older book with it or do I > need to buy another book? Since you're trying to learn the Linux server and not the desktop, the 7.2 book is adequate. There is documentation on Red Hat's web site in multiple formats that you can use for 8.0-specific functions. > I noticed that there is a list that specializes in questions > about installation. Is it better to submit my questions about > installation to that list or this list? This one will most likely suffice. Try to stump us and then make up your mind :=) .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
XFree86 configuration
While installing RH 8 I chose to "Skip X Configuration". After that I found that Xconfigurator has been replaced by redhat-config-xfree86. I ran that using --reconfig --noui and an XF86Config file was created but X refuses to start when given a "startx" command. The error is... Fatal server error: no screens found I don't see what is wrong in the config. Anyone? -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs # XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice"DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # or: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # Option "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # Option "XkbOptions""ctrl:swapcaps" # Or if you just want both to be control, use: # Option "XkbOptions""ctrl:nocaps" # Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then # this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you # also use USB mice at the same time. Identifier "DevInputMice" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName"VG800b" DisplaySize 360290 HorizSync30.0 - 82.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 ModeLine "1400x1050" 129.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +hsync +vsync ModeLine "1400x1050" 151.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +hsync +vsync ModeLine "1400x1050" 162.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +hsync +vsync ModeLine "1400x1050" 184.0 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +hsync +vsync Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "s3" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "S3 Trio64V2 (generic)" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Modes"800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes"800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "DRI" Group0 Mode 0666 EndSection XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-72) / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 23 January 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www
Re: Support Changes
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 02:06:11PM -0500, Buck wrote: > > I personally like the idea that 8.0 can be upgraded to 8.1 in an up2date > session. Where did you find this documented? a) That's never been supported in any previous release combination b) 8.1 has not yet been released -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Open Office & JRE 1.4.1
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 04:17, David Durst wrote: > I am not sure if open office is still Java depended in some way. > > But I recently discovered after installing the J2SDK 1.4.1 that > it ceased to function. > > Does anyone have any insight??? I'm not sure exactly what your problem is, but I have installed Sun's j2sdk1.4.1_01. Both Java and OpenOffice work fine. Ed -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: sendmail again....
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 05:28:32PM -0600, Cowles, Steve wrote: > >- Transcript of session follows - > > 550 5.1.2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]\@?>... Host unknown (Name server: > > earthlink.net\@?: host not found) > > > Where is the \@? coming from??? (see below) Isn't a \@ a null? > > X-Cron-Env: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]\@?> This is the problem right here. BTW, do you have root forwarded somewhere else? You might want to double-check that you haven't set up a bounce loop, especially if the root forwarded entry is bad. > Looks like a cron job (sv_aliases) is sending this e-mail. FYI: When > cronjobs generate output to either stdout or stderr, they will send this > output to the e-mail address specified by the shell MAILTO variable. If > MAILTO is not set, it will send it to the user running the cronjob. In this > case, it looks as though the MAILTO varaible for this cronjob is NOT set > properly. i.e. the trailing \@? > > In short... fix your cronjob script. Agreed. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Apache and perl
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 08:52:14AM -0800, Ryan McDougall wrote: > I don't think I have mod_perl installed on my RH8.0 box, I know that I do have > perl installed though... I did an rpm -qa perl and it found perl-5.8.0-55. > > My first question is how do I find out if I do have mod_perl installed? My favorite: # rpm -qa | grep -v perl You can also do: # locate mod_perl > Second question is, but do I need to add to install mod_perl? Because I'm not > sure whether it is just a plain old rpm to install and that is it or if it is > an rpm and an httpd.conf edit or JUST the httpd.conf edit. It's an rpm, and the simplest method is: # up2date mod_perl -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: init order
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Friday 31 January 2003 16:49, Kevin Waterson wrote: > > Is it possible to specify the order in which daemons start > > > > I have installed a radius daemon and it fails to begin because > > mysql has not yet started. > > Change the number of hte init script. /etc/init.d/rc#.d/ has the scripts > (replace # w/ the run level) The lower the number, the earlier they start. I think you may have also wished to add that the scripts are numbered in the /etc/init.d/rc#.d/ directories. As in S01, S81 and in that case too the lower the number the earlier they start. Ed --- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Configuring a USB FlashDisk
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Danny Towler wrote: > If anyone has had success in mounting their USB flash disk as a read/write > file system, I'd be greatful for your advice/help. These normally show up as SCSI devices. Have a look in your /var/log/messages file... You should see something similar to: Jan 28 21:00:32 misty kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. Jan 28 21:00:56 misty kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Jan 28 21:00:56 misty kernel: SCSI device sda: 507904 512-byte hdwr sectors (260 MB) Jan 28 21:00:56 misty kernel: sda: Write Protect is off Jan 28 21:00:56 misty kernel: sda: sda1 Assuming that is what you get then do mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/mntpoint or whatever... Ed -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Configuring a USB FlashDisk
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Danny Towler wrote: > Works fine. Thanks Ed. Welcome... BTW, I don't use other USB devices so there aren't conflicts or a chance that my flashdisk would get a different scsi device when plugged in. So, I simply put... /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbvfat noauto,user,rw 0 0 in my /etc/fstab and made a file in my bin directory that contains: mount /dev/sda1 Makes life a bit easier. I would caution against using automount since you may end up with a corrupt file system if you pull out the disk without first doing a proper unmount. Ed -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: sudo and globbing
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 05:24:36AM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote: > I didn't notice anything in man sudo to explain why globbing doesn't > work using sudo. At least in this instance > > sudo ls /root/inst* > ls: /root/inst*: No such file or directory The correct syntax would be: sudo sh -c "ls /root/inst*" This is somewhat documented in the sudo man pages in the EXAMPLES section. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Load balancing
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:11:38PM -0500, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > Not quite I meant mirroring several sites over several different > servers in a failover situation. You may be able to get by with a simple DNS round robin, depending on exactly what you're trying to do. For more complex solutions, check out the Linux High Availability project at http://www.linux-ha.org/ -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Red hat network icon
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > Not new to Linux, but new to Redhat, I like the Redhat Network up2date > facility a lot. But how do I get the changing icon in my taskbar for it. > In Gnome it is there but not in KDE .. which is what I use, and I cannot > find what I need to do. What version of RH are you running? If I recall correctly, your situation was true in 7.3 but I fairly certain I've an 8.0 system in the office with KDE and the icon in the tray. Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Red hat network icon
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > I searched in the "add" list for the taskbar, found nothing. > And generally ferretted around. Well, it seems I liedsort of The user that is running KDE with the icon is actually just starting it in the background as root. He is just doing /usr/bin/rhn-applet-gui & Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RH vs Other Distributions
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 09:47:51AM -0600, Shoemaker, Michael (STL) wrote: > Im curious what the majdr differences are between Red Hat and other distro's? >Anyone know of a site that does a compare/contrast. I know Debian had a huge surge a >while back due to its ability to auto update, but now that RH has up2date(assuming >they provide similar functionality) does this preference still exists. Is there one >distro that is better served for workstation installs vs server installs? Any input >would be appreciated even if its just a thought, nothing concrete. Please wrap your lines... In the past, I've always like Red Hat for servers, and Mandrake for workstations. I believe that's changing, especially considering the serious financial trouble that Mandrake is in and Red Hat's current focus on better supporting desktops than they have in previous years. Your definition of "better" is probably different than mine. I look for a distribution that provides superb support, especially as it concerns security releases. I believe the top distros in this regard are Red Hat, SuSe, and Mandrake. I haven't checked lately since I use Red Hat exclusively now and am still very satisfied with their security responses. I also am far more concerned in stability than I am in new features (some of which don't work). You need to determine what you are actually looking for in a distro, and we can't do that for you. Each distro has its strengths and weaknesses and you need to know how that affects you and what you're trying to accomplish. Do you want long-term stability or do you want bleeding-edge features? Do you want support from 3rd parties, or are happy with the products that the distributor ships? Are you a developer that needs to develop and test code for common distributions? Or are you running a small DNS/web/mail server at home? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: disk partition
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:21:22PM -0500, Shane C Branch wrote: > Are there any 'rules of thumb' to follow when partitioning a disk for linux? In > the past, I have always partitioned my disk by defining mount points for /, > /boot, /opt, /var /usr, /usr/local, /tmp and /home separately. I would define > swap space at 2x physical RAM. However, I always guessed at the sizes for each > partition, except for /home, for which I would set the 'grow to fill disk' > option. The rules of thumb are (or used to be) in the installation manual... Obviously if you take all the defaults for partitioning during install, you'll get Red Hat's "rules of thumb". -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: disk partition
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:47:51PM -0500, Shane C Branch wrote: > I did read the manual on this, but I didn't find it particularly useful, except > for the recommended sizes for /, and /boot. I was already following the swap > suggestion. When I first started playing with linux I was told that setting > partitions manually was better than letting the installer do it, but I was > never clear on exactly why that was supposed to be true. It really depends on what you're using your system for. If it's largely a mail and web server, you may want a very large /var. If it has lots of users doing development, a large /home may be in order. If you've got a small disk, you'll want to adjust things quite differently than if you've got a large disk. I don't like the Red Hat rule of thumb for memory - ie, 2xmemory size. This kinds of puts you in a bind if you ever upgrade your memory later, so just go with a GB to start and forget about it. With disks so big these days, the rules are changing. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: OpenSSL 0.9.7 on Redhat 8.0
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:11:34PM -0500, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > Please don't install packages from Raw Hide using --nodeps (--force > actually wouldn't have helped here -- the --force option is just a > combination of --replacepkgs and --replacefiles). Rampant use of the > --nodeps option can break a system in ways which are Hard to fix. A *much* better (than --force) way to get newer packages to install on older releases is to grab the source rpm and then do an --rebuild on it. Quite often the package will successfully build on your system, and then you can install it. I've done it with a few packages (mailman, zip, etc) and have had good success. If the package won't rebuild, then look at other options. Forcing the install usually will not work if the rebuild didn't. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: rawhide
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:14:20PM -0800, Stephen Mah wrote: > Does rawhide mean that the packages are beta? The definitive answer comes from Red Hat themselves. In the rawhide directory, you'll find a README. I'm including parts below since this quetion gets asked frequently. Read the README - it has important warnings! It's over 3 years old, but still valid. --- snip --- Chomping at the Bit for Raw Hide The growing user base of Linux highlights the need for early, accurate, and broadly disseminated information on new features and trends in Linux development. We can't think of a better way of keeping our user base fully informed on what we are up to then regularly posting our development release and source code. Announcements on http://developer.redhat.com and newsletters available from Red Hat will provide our users with constant updates on the evolution of Red Hat Linux. Raw Hide Can Be a Bit Tough to Chew on So Run at Your Own Risk (and Enjoyment) These releases have not been quality tested by Red Hat's Quality Assurance team. They may not boot. If they boot, they may not install. If they install, they may not do anything other then waste CPU cycles. If anything breaks, you most assuredly own the many fragments which will be littered across your floor. It may not be possible to upgrade from Red Hat to Raw Hide, from Raw Hide to Red Hat, or from Raw Hide to Raw Hide! If a stable upgrade path is important to you, please do not use Raw Hide. DO NOT USE THESE RELEASES FOR ANY WORK WHERE YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR APPLICATION RUNNING, THE ACCURACY OF YOUR DATA, THE INTEGRITY OF YOUR NETWORK, OR ANY OTHER PURPOSE FOR WHICH A RESPONSIBLE HUMAN WOULD USE A COMPUTER. (But then again what would be the fun of hacking Linux if there wasn't some risk involved. ;-)) These releases will be available from ftp.redhat.com:/pub/rawhide. A list of Raw Hide mirrors will be available as such mirrors come online. Enjoy! -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: opening a cpio file in windows .
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:23:48PM -0800, faisal gillani wrote: > i am sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this .. > but can you tell me how can i open a cpio file in > windows pc Go to http://www.google.com and use "windows cpio" as a search string. On the first page will be useful links. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: SIOCADDRT (network)
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 10:49:59AM -0500, Brian York wrote: > When the network is restarted I get a message at the end > SIOCADDRT: File exists A quick google search on "SIOCADDRT file exists" finds a bunch of hints and suggestions. Have you done this search and followed any of the suggestions? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Pushing updates ?
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 04:26:47PM -0500, Allan M. Stewart wrote: > > What is the best way to update many servers at customer sites? > > Let say for example that a new SSH package comes out. Since this is > security related, we probably DO want to get this update on all > of our servers in customer sites. Isn't there something better > than telnet'ing into each server, FTP'ing (or other method) a RPM > there and running RPM to update. A cheap choice would be to rsync/ftp/scp the package to the other end, and then rpm -Fvh the package. Next in line would be to configure each system with up2date. You can push the package out from the web, or you can have a local cron job do the dirty deed. > There is rsync, but that end runs around the RPM package manager. > Since these servers may not be identical clones, I think package > management is recommended. Yes? IMHO, package management is always recommended. rsync'ing the package and then using rpm would be much better. > Caldera gave us a sales presentation about a year ago and they had > something (volution?) that did this, but their licensing costs were > way high. They priced themselves out of the picture. Does RedHat > or any third party have something to make remote system/package > management easier for many (100+) systems? Red Hat can help. Check out https://rhn.redhat.com/info/overview_enterprise.pxt I'm sure that there are other solutions, but these are all supported and will work. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: ppp0 internet
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have dsl cablemodem connected to eth1=66.x.x.x and lan eth0=10.0.0.1. > When I dial-in=ppp0 I am able to connect to the linux box do > whaterver...excecpt connect to the internet or other machines on the > 10.0.0.0 network. Does anyone have a solution? I have no route > anywhere else except to the machine I am dialed into. Are you running ipchains or iptables? In either case you need to configure them for masquerading. And, ipv4 forwarding needs to be turned on. As this machine is directly connect to the Internet you should set up a firewall I prefer shorewall as my .sig suggests. :-) Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Blanking Flat Panel Display
I've got RH 8.0 installed. Running the stock "nv" driver on a "RIVA TNT2" video card. When the system is sitting at the GUI login screen it will "blank" after a while (haven't timed it) and the LED on the flat panel monitor changes from green to amber. When logged in, I've the screensaver disabled but no matter how long I leave the system unattended the screen never blanks. Any ideas as to how to get the screen to blank? thanks, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs http://www.greshko.com -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Blanking Flat Panel Display
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Michael Kuss wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > When logged in, I've the screensaver disabled but no matter how long I > > leave the system unattended the screen never blanks. > > I'm not sure if you really wanted to write what you have written, but if > you disable the screensaver the screen is supposed to stay up. Well, I did write what I wanted to write and mean to say Note that there is no screensaver running when the GUI login screen is on and the screen blanks. Also, if you happen to have a Win2K machine and you don't run a screensaver then the screen will also blank. I want the same behvior. That is, no mouse movement or no keystrokes after X minutes causes/allows blanking to happen. Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Blanking Flat Panel Display
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Piero Calucci wrote: > (using gnome) if you go to sceensaver preferences (yes, screensaver, > that bad guy) and select the "advanced" tab, you will find all display > power management settings Thank you. And in KDE it is in, of all places, the "Power Control" section of the Control Center... :-) Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Blanking Flat Panel Display
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Reg HUGHSON wrote: > Under Gnome, I had the settings adjusted via screensaver but the power > management settings never worked...the screen would blank but would never > go into standby mode or power off. Now that I've switched to WindowMaker, > the same power management settings work fine. > > Why would that be? That's a very good question Especially since my extended study indicates that all of these GUI's should simply be doing what you could do using the "xset" command. BTW, I tested blanking under gnome and kde under RH 7.3 (my 8.0 system is in the office) and both worked fine. Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: OT: the whole SCO IP patent(s) mess
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 12:27:16PM -0600, Tom Georgoulias wrote: > I'm kinda surprised that this hasn't come up on any of the Red Hat > mailing lists I'm subscribed to, but does anyone have credible info on > how much of an effect SCO's patent enforcement lawsuits would/could have > on Red Hat Linux? There's hopefully a good reason why it's not being discussed here, and that's because we're mostly techies, not lawyers. We can leave the slamming, guessing, and threats to the Slashdot crowd, The best thing I can suggest for now is to simply ignore it. If we start following all the patents and try to plan around them, you won't be able to do much of anything. Heck, you wouldn't even be able to let your kid on a swing if the kid wants to swing side-to-side or around in circles (seriously). There are a lot of lawsuits being filed, and many, if not most, aren't even upheld. Relax, and keep using Linux for your personal enjoyment. .../Ed p.s. I'm not a lawyer either. If I was worrying about at the office, I'd get the lawyers involved, but I'm not. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RH8.0 on Dell Dimension 4300S - Linux compatible??
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 08:23:17PM -0500, John Nall wrote: > OK. Did that, and one problem has to do with the modem, which I have now > ascertained to be a WinModem (Conexant HCF) and I know those don't work on > Linux, or at least not without some extra effort. So the modem is put > aside for now (may come back to it and investigate what is available to > make it a LinModem later). Some Winmodems do work - check http://www.linmodems.org. I got my el cheapo Compaq system with its winmodem working without too much difficulty at all. Surprised the heck out of me! > The second problem has to do with the Ethernet card. It is a CNET > PRO200WL, which apparently is Linux certified (by Linux-Testing), although > not for RH8.0 specifically. >From my quick research, this thing was validated against Red Hat Linux 6.0 and a 2.2.5 kernel. I'd be surprised if it's no longer supported. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Transferring updates across local network
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:41:10PM -0500, John Nall wrote: > This may be a dumb question, with the answer glaringly obvious. But I hate > to make assumptions. Doing so has bit me in the past. > > Using RHN I have updated one of my three RH8.0 systems. All three of them > are on a LAN, at my home. Since this updating is kind of a courtesy from > Redhat, by virtue of my buying RH8.0 from them, I can only update one > machine with RHN (or so I gather). So one machine is updated. The other > two are not. It would seem logical to me that I should be able to then > update the other two machines on the LAN then, by merely copying the files. You've got a few choices: 1. Buy subscriptions to RHN for all systems. 2. If all 3 are identically configured, you can run up2date on one system and tell it to keep the rpms after they've been downloaded (the default is to delete). Once the first system is done, you can then freshen your other systems from those rpms. 3. Use one of the many open source tools that try to emulate up2date. 4. Grab the files directly from a Red Hat ftp mirror and freshen your system the old fashion way. FWIW, I've got my home system subscribed to RHN (I've paid). The $60/year is really a bargain for the piece of mind to get all updates promptly, full ISOs if I need them on a high-priority basis, and new versions of the OS during the year. That, and Red Hat gets *all* the money, unlike what would happen if I went to a local store to buy the latest version twice per year. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: loading modules
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:03:22PM -0500, Jeffrey Ross wrote: [generously snipped] > I currently have these two modules loaded for the USB port > > ehci-hcd 19880 0 (unused) > usbcore76192 1 [ehci-hcd] > > I know if I do the following: > > insmod usb-uhci >[it works] Try adding this to modules.conf: alias usb-controller usb-uhci -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
NIC reactivating automatically
I have a problem in which one of my network interfaces on my dual-homed RH 8.0 server is re-activating later after I manually shut it down (via 'ifdown eth1'). It appears to happen when I attempt to access a VPN address previously routed to the shutdown interface. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me how to control this behavior. Thanks in advance. More details follow... Thanks, Ed === This is a dual-homed server with network interfaces eth0 and eth1. I access a VPN at 10.0.0.0/16, and I have 2 VPN clients: one software, one hardware. When using the hardware client, I configure eth1 and route VPN addresses to eth1. Unfortunately, the Cisco 3002 hardware client is not working properly. So I use the s/w client via eth0 as a backup access channel, and believe I'm routing VPN traffic to eth0. I have my NICs and routing tables setup to work in either mode as follows: When using eth0 + s/w vpn client: # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ...snip... inet addr:10.1.2.1 Bcast:10.1.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1356 Metric:1 RX packets:406740 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:422986 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:175291703 (167.1 Mb) TX bytes:66659541 (63.5 Mb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0x7000 # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.1.2.0* 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default router 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 When using eth1 + h/w vpn client (which is the reboot mode): # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ...snip... inet addr:10.1.2.1 Bcast:10.1.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1356 Metric:1 RX packets:408360 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:424749 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:175930715 (167.7 Mb) TX bytes:66893033 (63.7 Mb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0x7000 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr ...snip... inet addr:11.1.2.1 Bcast:11.1.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:3 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:168 (168.0 b) Interrupt:5 Base address:0x8000 # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 11.1.2.0* 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 10.1.2.0* 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 10.0.0.0hwvpn 255.255.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 ... (snipped other VPN addresses routed to eth1) ... 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo defaultrouter 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Wallpapers
> Am Mit, 2003-02-19 um 09.17 schrieb Maynard Kuona: > > I wonder. Maybe I am in the wrong place, but if Redhat could give us a > > .wallpaper directory lie it gave us the fonts, I think I would be very > > happy. Just save all my wallpapers there and have a small menu pulling > > them from there. And could save wallpapers previously used there as > > well. mkdir ~/.wallpaper If Redhat doesn't "give" you something it doesn't stop you from making it yourself:-) Best Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Wallpapers
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > I think he was getting at having a ~/.wallpapers directory where you could put > your wallpaper images and when you go to config your wallpaper in gnome or > kde they would be there and availaible to use. i think it sounds like a good > idea. in the similiar fashon of fonts being in ~/.fonts avaliable to the > user. I'm not sure I get your point. Ya want a ~/.wallpaper directory? Ya make a ~/.wallpaper directory. In KDE ya go to Select Wallpaper, ya chose your home directory from the drop down list and ya go to what ever directory your little heart desires. BTW, I don't even have a ~/.fonts directory. But, if I wanted one, I'd just create it. So, what's the issue? Ed -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: how to forbid someone to do an ftp outside of my network?
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Raoul Beauduin wrote: > I looking for a way to forbid someone to make an ftp on a host outside > of my network without removing the ftp client from the computer. > How can I do that? Break their fingers? :-) You need to be slightly more specific in your request This user, are they: 1. On the same host as RH is installed and are they they only user? 2. Are they on a different box with a fixed IP address? 3. Are they going through a firewall? 4. Do you want to restrict them to no ftpor just some ftp? 5. How many users do you have to manage? The answer is "probably yes" but the solution depends on the situation. Regards, Ed Oh, the list of questions above is in no way intended to be the only questoins to be asked.probably. :-) -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: how to forbid someone to do an ftp outside of my network?
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Raoul Beauduin wrote:
> the situation is like this:
>
> we have about 10 pc's connected to a local network 192.168.*.* ("my"
> network). we are going through a firewall to connect to internet.
> I want some students not being able at all to make an outgoing ftp to
> some foreign host and drop sensitive sources. but when i connect on
> their machine, i want to be able to make an any ftp i want.
> the deny of outgoing ftp must on be only for these students.
When you say "PC" I assume they are running WinXX as their "OS". In any
event you say when you are using their PC you want to be able to do any
sort of FTP you want. Now I don't know if the ftp client on a WinXX box
can be restricted to a given set of users. If it canthen you have a
solution. In that case the solution needs to be implemented on the
end-user's PC as a normal FTP connection has no way of knowing who typed
"ftp sexpalace.com" :-)
Your other alternative would be to force users to ftp via a proxy server
to which they need to authenticate before being allowed through. A bit of
work to setup and administrate.
Regards,
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Re: how to forbid someone to do an ftp outside of my network?
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:22:10PM +0100, Raoul Beauduin wrote:
> I looking for a way to forbid someone to make an ftp on a host outside
> of my network without removing the ftp client from the computer.
> How can I do that?
You can't. If the system has direct access to the Internet, then every
user will have access. Even if you remove the ftp client, nothing stops
them from putting it back.
What you could do is to not have outside access from the outside except
through a proxy server. The proxy server then authenticates the user
and/or the host. Squid can be used for this.
.../Ed
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Re: how to forbid someone to do an ftp outside of my network?
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:50:55PM +0100, Raoul Beauduin wrote:
> I am trying to forbid outgoing ftp.
>
> the situation is like this:
>
> we have about 10 pc's connected to a local network 192.168.*.* ("my"
> network). we are going through a firewall to connect to internet.
> I want some students not being able at all to make an outgoing ftp to
> some foreign host and drop sensitive sources. but when i connect on
> their machine, i want to be able to make an any ftp i want.
> the deny of outgoing ftp must on be only for these students.
The obvious thing (to me) is to install a proxy server between the users
and the firewall. Reject incoming access to the firewall from the
student systems and force them to go through the proxy. The proxy
server can do just about anything in terms of access. You can restrict
based on source address, destination address, proxy both http and ftp
(and other protocols), cache results, etc.
The home page for squid is at http://www.squid-cache.org/
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Re: LDAP
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Eduardo Sanz Martin wrote: > I would like to set up a LDAP server as authentication password ( like a > NIS). I would like to set up this server on a linux machine. It is going > to > validate passwords on UNIX (HP-UX, SGI) and linux, is it possible? How > can i find information about this item. I checked LDAP HOWTO, but it > is not clear. Is there a document that explains clear how LDAP works? You need to search for information on PAM (Plugable Authentication Module). Not all platforms support. Linux does. Solaris does. Not sure of the others you mentioned. There is a Red Hat mailing list on that subject Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Psyche-list digest, Vol 1 #1023 - 13 msgs
On Thu, 19 Feb 2003, Maynard Kuona wrote: > The point is, like with fonts on Psyche, if you create a .fonts > directory and put some fonts in there, they will be available to use > system wide immediately. I am not too sure if you did that with > wallpapers, it would work the same If you would try ityou would find out it works Its only a directory containing files... -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Logcheck ignores logcheck.violations.ignore file
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:06:50AM +0100, Cedric Chausson wrote: > Wanting to limit the results to pertinent information I put keywords in > logcheck.violations.ignore. But the keywords are ignored, i still get > Logcheck results wit the keywords in them. > > I did a simple test. I just put gpm in the logcheck.violatins.ignore > file and nothing else. But the Logcheck result still had lines with gpm > in it. There are multiple logcheck ignore files and it depends on which one is being triggered. Most entries need to go into logcheck.ignore. The only time you need to add entries to violations.ignore is if you're trying to match an entry that's in violations. violations are for security violations, not unusual events. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Re[2]: IPTABLES question
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Jesse Keating wrote: > > U, guys. No way these rules are going to work without a jump target. > > So add: > > > > -j ACCEPT > > > > to the end of both given rules. > > Whoops! I knew I was forgetting something (; Thats one of the reasons I prefer to use shorewall. Well documented frontend to iptables. Doesn't forget a "key ingredient" (as my Grandmother used to do with her cookies). No need to learn the syntax yet you have every opportunity to learn about security. And, it has the facility to add your own iptables commands if you find a need/desire. <\shameless_plug> Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: What is best method on RH for getting *new* versions of installed software
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:52:53AM -0500, reg hughson wrote:
> So are most rpms for 8.0 the same as for 7.3? Can I use the 8.0 rpms on
> my 7.3 system?
As others have said, the answer is basically no, but that doesn't mean
much. The *binary* rpm is usually not compatable, but in some (many?)
cases you can grab the source rpm and rebuild it for your 7.3 system.
I've used this approach to get 7.3 packages onto 6.2.
.../Ed
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Re: Advise on setting up HTTPS for only one virtual host
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:24:31AM +, Mark C wrote: > I'm running apache using Namebased Virtual hosts > (this is the only way I can run apache, due to my setup), > > what I want to do is to only allow all the http sites to only accept > http (and not redirect https to the webmail site) and the only site that > will accept https is the webmail one. You can not use https with namebased virtual hosts. This is clearly documented on the apache.org web site. For SSL, you must use IP-based virtual hosts since the name is encrypted - you can't set up the session until you know the name, and you don't know the name until you know decrypt the headers. The key you need to decrypt is virtual-host specific. > Any advise or comments are welcome. You're dead. You simply can't use https with named-based virtual hosts. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Upgraded to 2.4.20 kernel. Now I have wait(2) syslog msgs.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Steven W. Orr wrote: > After upgrading from Red Hat 8.0 kernel to the new 2.4.20 rawhide kernel, > I now get these warning messages in my syslog: > > Mar 1 13:52:19 saturn kernel: application bug: spamd(8587) has SIGCHLD > set to SIG_IGN but calls wait(). > Mar 1 13:52:19 saturn kernel: (see the NOTES section of 'man 2 wait'). > Workaround activated. > > I also get warnings from crond and privoxy. > > Is this a spamassassin/crond/privoxy bug or should I be switching back to > the 2.4.18 kernel? > > I do understand that this is a rawhide kernel, but I'm not sure who else > to ask this question to. The rawhide list would be one place... :-) However, this sounds like a mismatch more than a bug. If you play with the rawhide stuff you need to be prepared for this sort of thing. What you do is upgrade the packages that give you the warnings to the rawhide versions or get them from the new phoebe beta. Generally speakingif you are not willing to deal with these quirks or can't accept a dead system (can happen) you shouldn't be playing with fire. :-) Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Upgraded to 2.4.20 kernel. Now I have wait(2) syslog msgs.
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Steven W. Orr wrote: > Where's the rawhide list? I looked at redhat and didn't see one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Phoebe
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Mel Seder wrote: > I've been running Phoebe (8.0.x) Beta for two or three months it seems. > > Is there a production version due to be released soon? I can see you are new to this list. The answer to your question is (and will always be) the same as it has been in the past Yes, a new production version will be released soon.as soon as it is ready. Red Hat does not announce release dates. Another often missed point. If you ran the Beta version you may, or may not be able to upgrade a Beta version to the final version with ease or success. Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Internet content on RH8
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Jason Dale wrote: > 1) Does anyone know where Red Hat 8 keeps all of it's temporary files, > cookies, cache files that show where you have been surfing on the net? > much like the content cleanup programs that you get for Windows? It is not the OS but the application. Mozilla keeps Cache in ~/.mozilla/default/some directory/Cache for example... > 2) Where can I find a filtering service to prevent 'objectionable' > websites from being accessed in situations where a network of people > access the internet via your Red hat Linux server? by 'objectionable' > I mean any content including violence, pornography, etc. You need to setup a proxy server like squid. Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: curl
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 10:16:55PM +0200, Marek wrote: > Do any special ports have to be open to use curl over https ? > > I manage to download 4.1K and then it stops. If you're downloading at all, then the required ports are open. A closed port lets nothing through. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Michael Schwendt
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 09:36:30AM -0500, John Lowell wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > >no, but frankly, *you're* starting to get a bit tedious. > > > >rday > > > Do I need you for anything, Mr. Day? Probably. From what I've been able to determine on this list, he's got a few extra clues and you're a few clues short. Everybody give it up will you? .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: why there is no sound when I played CD
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Tengjiao HU wrote: > I finally found out what the directory in /dev for my CD. I can mount it > without any problem now. However, when I played CD, the playing software > indicated that I did read the data and output, however, I cannot hear any > sound from my speaker. I know my speaker should work well because I can play > the sample Midi files in the software. What should I do? BTW, I have not > install alsa rpm because I think the original RH can support the sound > system already. A common problem in this regard is a missing wire between the CD drive and the soundcard. Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: hosts.allow/deny
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:41:21AM +0200, Lorin wrote: > I have a little problem with the configuration of hosts.allow. If a certain > rule matches i want a command to be executed. Here's a sample from my hosts.deny that may get you started: ALL: ALL: spawn echo tcpwrap has detected an unauthorised connection attempt\ from %h %a to %d at `date`|tee -a /var/log/secure|mail -s 'Unauthorized \ Connection attempt' root -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Openssh and glibc 2.3?
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, John T Nelson wrote: > I recently installed openssh 3.4p1-2 on my machine (which is the version > that can be ftp'd from Redhat) for 8.0, but when I try to run sshd, the > daemon complains that it needs GLIBC 2.3. This version of GLIBC isn't > available from Redhat (at least not from the FTP site). > > Am I just confused? Do I need to step back a version (how if this is > what is offered by Redhat)? Well...on my system here I have... openssh-server-3.4p1-2 glibc-2.2.93-5 and everthing is happy What is the exact error message? -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: FTP Error/exit codes
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:04:59AM +0200, Jason Dale wrote: > I have checked my resources and books and cannot seem to > figure out what error code 87 is in FTP. I can't seem to > find my answer http://www.wu-ftpd.org and click on the rfc link. Follow that through to rfc959 - the authoritative answer on the FTP server standard. You can go directly to http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc959.html. The bad part is that error 87 is not a valid return code from an RFC-compliant FTP server since all return codes must be 3 digits. > Where on my Red Hat system can I check for some sort of > index containing a list of these codes, and what they mean, > preferably for each type of program? Unfortunately, there's no standard on where, if at all, they're documented. You could, of course, install the source, and look there for some sort of hint. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: support for hyperthreading?
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:57:47PM +0200, Markku Kolkka wrote: > Viestissä Tiistai 11. Maaliskuuta 2003 05:12, Michael Wardle kirjoitti: > > http://www.kerneltrap.org/node.php?id=391 > > > > The above link suggests that HT support was first introduced for 2.5.31. I > > doubt whether it's been backported to the 2.4 series yet. > > That's about "fully hyperthreading-aware scheduler", which isn't the same as > "hyperthreading support". HT will work with any SMP kernel, but the new > scheduler should provide improved performance in systems with several > physical CPUs. It's also interesting to note that this is no different than what Windows is doing. Windows 2000 "supports" the HT processors, but treats them as 2 separate physical CPUs. For a 2-CPU system, you actually need a 4-CPU license. For Windows XP, HT is "fully aware" and counts the logical cpus different than physical cpus. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Maillog GONE!
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 07:27:09AM -0800, Corey Head wrote: > Thanks Jesse and Doc--I will keep this in mind next time I need to flush > this out. I didn't realize I needed to restart the syslog service after > doing this. Everything is back to normal now. I'm willing to bet that your mail records are still in your old renamed file too. Since the file was open at the time, new records probably got written there after you renamed the file. You may also want to consider changing the logrotate interval for your logs. On our big mail servers, we rotate and compress daily. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: More CD-RW Burning Issues...
On Fri, 13 Mar 2003, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > OK - I've now sunk about $100 and several hours into this personally > just to verify it's a nasty problem. So far, I have a new CDRW and a > pile of Verbatim DataLife Plus 32X brand coasters to show for it. Ideas > welcome. Have you tried another media other than Verbatim? Some drives just don't work well with some media. Regards, Ed -- http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: updating kernel using up2date
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Saqib Ali wrote: > My question: Is it safe to update the kernel using up2date? Yes. And as an added "insurance" up2date will not delete the older kernel so it is still available should you run into unexpected difficulties. > On this server I dont have a custom kernel. It is the kernel that came on > the RedHat 8.0 CDs. So will be safe updating the kernel using up2date? Regards, Ed -- http://webcams.greshko.com/ Do you this man, Peter Boeni? http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Outbound emails
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 05:54:22PM +0100, Eduardo Sanz Martin wrote: > Somebody knows how to limit (filter)a user to send email inside a > domains. > For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] can only send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > but not to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or > Procmail can do it? how? Is there a program that can do it? > Thanks, This is not a role for procmail - procmail's job is to provide user-level control in *incoming* mail. Access controls on outbound mail is done by the MTA - this would be sendmail, postfix, or whatever your MTA is. Let us know what your MTA is and somebody familiar with that one will hopefully let you know how it's done. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: security updates ?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:45:35PM -0500, Allan M. Stewart wrote: > > I'm working in an environment where management is overly sensitive to > changes. We've been developing and QA'ing on a 8.0 install basically > straight out of the box. Our fielded systems will have a minimum install > with very few extras. Certainly SSH will need to be updated. Probably > several others. What I would like to do is check the installed RPMs for > updates and find out which ones are security related. Those kind of > updates should be easily justified. > > Is there an easy way to check only for security updates? It would be > very time consuming to do searches on every installed RPM. The best method is to use up2date. Register the system (it's $60 per system per year). You've then got the option to be e-mailed whenever a relevant update is released, check online for the status of all your systems, or run up2date --list manually and look at the output. up2date typically reports on only security updates - Red Hat does not usually provide routine bug fixes via RHN. Please note that 8.0 will be unsupported after December 31 of this year. You should start planning a version 9 rollout soon (it will be publicly available in early April). Personally, I'm going to be migrating my production systems to Enterprise Edge Server to get the longer lifecycle for security errata. To review the RHN choices, see http://www.redhat.com/software/rhn/offerings/ -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Spam ?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:39:27PM +0200, Marek wrote: > Is this spam using redhat's name ? I have not heard of redhat 9 yet ? Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Red Hat never pre-announces version numbers and everybody that assumed the next version was going to be 8.1 was wrong. That's why we talk about things like Phoebe and not 8.1. http://www.redhat.com/mktg/rh9iso/ -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Spam ? (RH9)
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 12:44:06PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > Well, I do know that it's incredibly arrogant and misleading to jump from > v8.0 to v9.0 without any intermediate steps. NOBODY in the software world > does that without some serious serious feature additions. RH9 will be > nothing more than some normal updates. Xfree 4.3, a (still broken) Apache > 2.0/PHP, a slightly newer KDE/Gnome, and what else? NOBODY? Surely you're not serious. It happens all the time. Microsoft started Windows NT at 3.1, jumped to 3.5, then to 4.0 and then to 2000. Version jumps are common in this industry. They're just marketing numbers. How can you possibly state that it will be "nothing more than some normal updates" and then ask what else? If you don't know what else, how do you know it's nothing more than some normal updates? Are you guessing again, like you probably guessed that this would be called 8.1? BTW, I have no more info on this numbering scheme than you do - I'm just saying that it's Red Hat's decision and they know more about marketing than I do. They also have more to gain or lose. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: security updates ?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 07:09:03PM -0600, Mike Vanecek wrote: > Can you please point me to where it says RH 8.0 supports goes at the > end of year? http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Spam ?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:29:51AM +0100, Andrew Kelly wrote: > > > Will Mendez wrote: > > > > That's pretty impressive what would make them skip a dot release? > > The cynical me says it's to force RHCE recertification. There have already been Red Hat postings about this. Hang on until after 9 is out for the formal announcement but rest assured that Red Hat is not out to screw the RHCEs (nor could they really afford to!). -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Red Hat 9
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Joe Klemmer wrote: > I doubt that. RH 8 works just fine in most situations. It's not > quite as solid in some server situations as 7.3 was but that's likely to > improve with 9. Hard to find just the right place to interject my $.02 All the discussions/go-rounds on this Red Hat 9 issue can probably be summed up in that old adage... "You can make some of the people happy all of the time, all of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of the people happy all of the time". Some people are unhappy cause 8.0 isn't being upgraded with the newest in application X. Some people want the latest version of lib Y...but when it comes out others are unhappy cause they have to update application Z which means you need to update the config file. Then there seem to be those unhappy with going from 8.0 to 9.0 because surely since the beta was called 8.1 there must be an 8.1 before you do a 9.0. Then there is the issue of binary compatibilitybut isn't tht what you get when you move forward sometimes? Got to have the latest in XYZbut it *must* be stable. Wouldn't it just be more fun to go back to the "old days" when every sat around trying to guess the name of the next release? Then, wait until it comes out to see if it is really as earth shattering and sky falling as some contend? Sorrymaybe I just need to develop some more procmail filters. :-) -- http://webcams.greshko.com/ Do you this man, Peter Boeni? http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Best way to update to RH9 from 8.0 ?
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:57:24PM +0100, Cédric Chausson wrote: > So I was wondering is the update installation option really feasible. I > seem to remmeber having seen written that it did not work really good ? > > Comments, experiences ? I've seen lots of reports from people that claim it works flawlessly, and lots from people that say it breaks a lot of things. I'd suggest that no matter which approach you do, get a good, restorable backup first. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Red Hat 9
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 06:29:04PM -0500, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > So your average person at home now has a choice of Windows XP at $300 > or Red Hat Enterprise Workstation at $300 ($60 a year after the first > year for access to security fixes). Guess what, XP comes with full > multimedia capabilities including MP3 and DVD, as well as a full range > of software available for purchase including games, tax software, etc. > Which would you choose? And Red Hat Linux comes with a full office suite, a Photoshop clone, a bunch of other utilities, web development tools, and a whole bunch more. You don't need to pay extra for Microsoft Office, Photoshop, and other imaging software, nor a project management suite. Add them all up and you'll see that Windows is a *lot* more expensive. >And by the way, so far at least Microsoft > still offers free security fixes in the base price. As does Red Hat. However, your pricing is suspect. Windows XP Pro is $299. Red hat Enterprise is $179/year for the download edition and $299 per year for the standard edition. In the first 90 days, Microsoft offers you absolutely no support. Red Hat offers telephone and web-based support. If you need assistance setting up a desktop, this could save you a bunch. The standard edition includes both phone and web support with service level guarantees and extends this for the entire year. Microsoft support costs $245 for phone support *per incident*. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: [psyche] Re: Red Hat 9
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:15:58PM -0500, Justin Zygmont wrote: > we'll see very soon, at the end of the month 6.2 and 7.0 will expire. I'm > curious if there will be any package updates, but I somehow doubt there > will. 6.1 support has been terminated for quite a while. We simply grab the 6.2 srpm and recompile it for the 6.1 system. Next month, I suspect that I can take a 7.x srpm for a security update, do an rpm --rebuild, and I'll be off to the races. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RedHat 9
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:00:05AM -0500, David Yates wrote: > Doesa anyone know if RedHat 9 breaks all of my old Loki games, unreal > tournament/2003, and quake3? How can we? Red Hat Linux 9 hasn't been released yet! Why don't you ask again in a couple of weeks? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Red Hat 9
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:38:11AM +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, > Brent Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We won't release errata or updates for 7.3 after the End Of Life period > > arrives. With the RHL line, there's no distinction between paying > > customers and unpaid customers once the product goes EOL. > > Ok, so if 9.0 goes EOL, I cannot get updates unless I use the > Enterprise line There is no 9.0. There is only 9. There is no guarantee that any Enterprise product will be compatible with 9. > > If you really need a version that you can run for 5 years, then > > buy the Enterprise line and pay us for that level of service. > > Across our network this could be quite expensive, with approx 600 > installations, more on that later. What I cannot see, is how you > can be offering updates to the Enterprise line, without making > the source available. Perhaps I am missing something bleeding > obvious here. The obvious part is that the source code is currently available. It does not have to be made available to everyone in the future - just to those who request it from those who purchased the binaries. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RH 9.0 - changelog?
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:36:16AM +, Brian Johnson wrote: > Could someone point me to a reference on what has changed for the new version? It's not yet available. Wait until the announcement on April 7 and the release notes will be publicly available, and you can get the chnagelog from every individual package when they've been uploaded. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RH 9 - new glibc
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:28:52AM -0800, Eric Burke wrote: > The bottom line is for a corporate desktop, RH no > longer serves the purpose. The bottom line is that RH9 is not targetted for the corporate desktop. That's what Red Hat Linux Enterprise AW is for. If you're trying to use a product that's not designed for your application and it doesn't do the job, why are you complaining? Once compatibility is broken by adding > something no one else is doing, all else is out the window. Sorry, but > the whole NPTL gains nothing...no speed...nothing.No other Linux distro > is using it or planning on it. That in itself breaks compatibility and > the products usefulness. For your application, AW is the right tool (or at least one of the right tools). NPTL is not in AW. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RH 9 - new glibc
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:06:55PM +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote: > We admin a network with approx 600 workstations and I feel redhat may not > be the solution for this purpose also. Red Hat Linux 9 is not targetted for you. That's what Enterprise Linux AW is for. > The cost of upgrades is way above > that of Microsoft, who do updates for free. Myth. Did you upgrade from NT4 to Win2K for free? How about from 2K to XP? Lucky you - they gave you that for free too? Even some patches from Microsoft come at a very steep price - I spotted a recent bug report that required you to phone it on their paid support line and if you happen to have the exact problem that their patch fixes, they'll refund your money. If you guessed wrong, you're out $295! For AW - which is targetted for you - not only do you get version updates for free, you also get support for free. Spend $295 *per incident* with Microsoft and see how the numbers add up. Did you get your office suite for free from Microsoft too? And the support and updates for them? Somethings tells me you're a techie and not a bean-counter. > But I would not be going with > a MS solution but I will be seriously looking at other linux distro's such > as Debian and Mandrake to see what they have on offer. Yup - that's the ticket all right. Migrate a 600-workstation network to a distribution that's supported by a company that's already in the French equivalent of Chapter 11. Do you like changing distributions or are you really that confident that Mandrake will survive bankruptcy proceedings and continue to give their services away for free? Do you think Mandrake will backport security patches for free to a 3-year old release? I've got news for you - if they try, they'll go Chapter 11 again and not come out. I've got a lot of Linux distributions from companies that tried to do too much for free. Most are out of business. Red Hat has clearly stated that they will continue to provide free downloads of their distribution and provide free updates. You'll get at least the equivalent to what Debian and Mandrake will give you. If you want commercial support, you're expected to pay for it. I fail to see why people are so upset at this. > I will continue to > run RedHat on my home machine, but for networks, I think it is getting > a little costly. Red Hat is a company and has several product offerings. For your home machine, Red Hat Linux 9 is probably the appropriate solution. For your office, AW is Red Hat's offering. For my office, I'm planning a migration to Red Hat Linux Enterprise Linux ES for my servers. For my home system, I'll be running Red Hat Linux 9 (7.1 on one system currently, and 9 on the system I'm in the process of setting up). Enterprise Linux is not appropriate for my home system. I'd like to run it for sure, but I can't justify and afford it. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Red Hat 9 -- April 7th -- Price & Compatibility?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 01:24:29PM -0500, Colburn wrote: > OK, RedHat will try to resolve the many flaws in RH8 with their new > release, RH9 on April 7th. > > Any idea what they will charge retail for this? Red Hat Linux 9 has not yet been announced. It will be announced on Monday, and not too long after that I expect that the retail stores will announce their pricing. Be patient. > (I also paid for my RH8 release, though considering the hundreds of > wasted hours trying to get it to do what it promised to do I feel as > though I am due a refund and more. Sigh.) Feel free to download Red Hat Linux 9 for free if you don't think you are getting value for the retail version. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: [psyche] Re: Red Hat 9
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:00:24PM -0600, Charles wrote: > I realize I am coming in a bit late, but would someone please expain > *exactly why* RH should not be run on the enterprise? No on can because the statement is false. > There are folk in the local linux user group that assert that RH > simply cannot be made secure. They're full of it. Oracle runs their internal business on Linux. Amazon runs their internal and external business on Linux. Do you think that Amazon would be crazy enough to put up an OS that can't be made secure? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: Red Hat 9
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 09:53:42AM -0700, Guy Fraser wrote: > What about the extra US$60/year for the entitlement, US$60/year x 500 = > US$30,000. For each 500 entitlements, a persons salary can be paid for a > year. You're obviously not a business person. I would expect that a good percentage of that $60 has to be used to pay for infrastructure, development of the RHN tool itself, the network bandwidth, etc. Whatever is left gets used to pay the developer. A good developer will cost you considerably more than $30K/year. You definitely won't get a kernel developer for that. Heck, they're very likely paying their help desk staff more than that. Add in the overhead costs of having them on staff (benefits, office space, etc) and a more typical loaded cost of a developer will be in the $100K range. So they probably need 2500 entitlements to pay for *one* developer. They've got well over 1000 packages to support. If a developer works 240 days per year and doesn't spend any time doing any training, s/he gets a total of 4 days per product to spend. I think you'll quickly realize you need a lot of developers. > Of course not every one buys an entitlement, but I do for my home machine. I would hazard a guess that 95% of the Red Hat Linux users do not buy an entitlement. > I wouldn't mind upgrading once or twice a year if stuff I used was not > constanly being dropped. I was very annoyed when elm was dropped, then > sawfish now wine. The lack of ALSA support means constantly having to > fight to get multimedia support. Some stuff gets dropped and some stuff gets added. They can't possibly support every open source product around. Users are already crying for multiple window managers (Gnome, KDE, windowmaker, etc.), multiple MTAs (sendmail, postfix), multiple printing subsystems (cups, lpr), multiple editors (vim, emacs,joe, pico). It's a battle they can't win. > 3)Rather than supporting Activists, RH should be lobbying software > developers to develop linux versions of their software that run natively > in X. They do that. They're got some big companies certifying on Red Hat Linux. Think BEA, Oracle, and many others. There are only so many resources they can throw at the problem. Would you rather they hire lobbyists or developers? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RH 9.0 - changelog?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:32:19PM -0700, Guy Fraser wrote: > RH is up to it again! > > ... > The following packages have been deprecated, and may be removed from a > future release of Red Hat Linux: > > - pine - License-related issues > ... > - lilo - Grub is the recommended bootloader > > I absolutely hate grub! Now this sucks big time! > > Now that pine is gone It's not gone. It's deprecated. Some time in the future, it *may* be removed. Are you having difficulty reading or comprehending? > All I am left with is vi. > I hate emacs, which is bloated and overly complicated for simple editing. I don't know about the other editors, but there are least a half dozen others the last time I looked. > I wonder when vi will get tossed? After all only savy users use it. Like > the ones who have been supporting RH for close to a decade now. What makes you think vi will be removed? After all, Red Hat only ships 2 versions of vi - the original vi, plus vim. > I feel like a broken record, ever since 7.3 the standard Unix utilities > have been disappearing. For proffesional unix administrators like me ^^ yup, that's real purfeshunal > this is more than just annoying. It is people like me who have been > helping and supporting RH since 1995 that are being rejected by many of > these changes. Can you please list which packages in Red Hat Linux you've contributed to? > RH 9 may be my last release, then I may have to switch > my support to another distibution or BSD version. Every distribution and every operating system has tradeoffs. Things change. Get used to it. Take responsibility for ensuring that the package is well maintained, has a loyal following, and is available in rpm format. Red Hat may continue with it. > Getting new fickle customers at the cost of loosing long time supporters > who helped RH get where they are does not make sense. A brand name is a > marketing tool but word of mouth from respected unix "guru's" goes much > further. I've been following this list for a while. Funny your name never came up as a respected Unix guru. > Well now that I have a fix for wine, I better get busy and fix the 10 > machines that broke last week. You did a lot of testing, didn't you? As a respected Unix guru, I would have expected you would have found the issues after patching the first one, not 10 systems later. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: security updates ?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:39:47PM -0700, Guy Fraser wrote: > I don't know if you can trust security updates any more. The last glibc > security update almost made > me loose my job because it wrecked software that was required by our > support staff to do their jobs. If you're running non-Red Hat packages on your systems, then you should test before you do a large rollout. I have not heard of any Red Hat supplied package breaking due to the glibc security update. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: security updates ?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 01:42:24PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > At 02:21 PM 3/24/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Please note that 8.0 will be unsupported after December 31 of this year. > >You should start planning a version 9 rollout soon [...] > > Wait... how come 6.2 was supported for security errata and such until > recently, and 8.0 will become unsupported less than 9 months after the next > version comes out? This doesn't make sense to me; are you sure it's correct? Yes, I'm sure. Red Hat redistributable releases (eg. 8.0, 9, 10) will be supported for at least 12 months from their date of release. 8.0 will have been supported for well over a year. Red Hat simply can not afford to keep doing the work to patch operating systems that were released 3 years ago and not receive any revenue from them. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RH 9 - new glibc
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 09:54:38AM +1000, Kevin Waterson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, > Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Myth. Did you upgrade from NT4 to Win2K for free? How about from 2K to > > XP? Lucky you - they gave you that for free too? > So, updates from one Enterprise release to the next will be free? Yup. Don't forget that what Enterprise gives you is support - almost all of the software is open source and redistributable. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RH Folks -- A Entitlement Wish
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 11:39:06AM -0600, Mike Vanecek wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:09:52 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote > > On Saturday 29 March 2003 17:43, Mike Vanecek uttered: > > > I have 3 RH 8 systems on paid basic entitlements. That works real nice for > > > standard up2date updates. However, sometimes I need something that is not > > > provided by up2date. E.g., I wanted to download the rawhide version of > > > logwatch since it reportedly fixed some problems in the version in the RH 8 > > > distro. Trying to get a ftp connection to rawhide was a real pain. I wish > > > paid RHN customers could also be given priority access to at least rawhide. > > > > Why not use a local mirror? > > I tried one and it was busy too. Just gave up and waited a couple of days. > Which one do you recommend? There are lots of mirrors, and some will be fast for you but slow for me, and vice versa. Go to http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html and try a few that might look like they're close. An unofficial fast mirror with good connectivity is redhat.newaol.com. They're not always current so you do have to be careful, but when they're up to date, they're very fast. > OTOH, my suggestion would be one more reason for folks to pay their $60 for a > subscription. I've raised this issue to Red Hat through their community ambassador program but haven't seen an answer yet (and may not - many issues are dealt with without me hearing about the resolution). One of the issues Red Hat would have to deal with is that up2date does automatic dependency resolution and nothing is guaranteed with rawhide. You could very quickly render your system unusable if you're not *very* careful. For example, say you wanted a rawhide version of mailman. Rawhide isn't version specific, so you could ask for this from a 7.3 system. mailman needs the latest python which needs the latest glibc, and before you know it, your entire system is at a rawhide release when all you really wanted was mailman. Binary compatibility would have been lost along the way. So yes, Red Hat could probably make it available (perhaps for an additional fee since there could potentially be a *lot* more network bandwidth utilized), but I'm not convinced they'd want to put up with the complaints they'd get. Given the complaining I've seen just from numbering a release 9 instead of 8.1, I can't begin to fathom the complaining they'd get the first time somebody tried to update a trivial package from rawhide and left their system totally unusable. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: able to d/l redhat 9.0?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 06:19:02AM -0800, Saqib Ali wrote: > Has anyone been able to d/l RedHat 9.0 from rhn.redhat.com? It's not 9.0 - it's 9. Yes, it's coming down now, but it will be hours before it's done. Red Hat Linux 9 discussions are not appropriate for psyche-list. Please move them to redhat-list or shrike-list. For access to the shrike list, visit: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: RHN Network
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 07:51:41AM -0800, Marcie Laux wrote: > Has anyone been able to log in to start the 9.0 ISO downloads? My transfers started but have since timed out. The RHN is performing so badly I can't even get see if Red Hat has released a sendmail patch yet. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: how to activate telnet
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 07:58:14AM -0800, Vince Buonassisi wrote: > i just installed redhat 8 and i am trying to figure out how to activate > telnet. when i try to telnet to the box i get the error 'connection > refused'. i have looked at the file /etc/xinitd.d/telnet but the entry > for disable is set to 'no'. is there another file i need to modify to > turn the telnet service on? Did you actually install the telnet-server package? Did you look at your firewall rules and open up port 23? Did you reload xinetd after editing the telnet file? Did you look at your /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow files? -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Re: OT Linux in general
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 04:13:51PM -0500, Brent Fox wrote: > On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 13:58, Marek wrote: > > My point is that this 6 month cycle generally sucks. Can't we get a new > > version once a year that is near perfect instead of pushing out 2 > > versions a year that are never bulletproof ? > > No. Look at the rate of improvement that the 6 month cycle has > maintained over the years. It does not "generally suck." > > Feel free to upgrade every other release if you want a 12 month release > cycle. Or purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux and you'll get a 12-18 month release cycle that's specifically targetted towards stable (i.e. non-bleeding edge) environments. You can have stable or you can have bleeding-edge. You can't have both. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
slabinfo cache descriptions?
Where can I find descriptions of the caches controlled in /proc/slabinfo? Some are obvious to me, most are not. Specifically, I'd like to identify which cache(s) are used to cache my database file data, but also just for future reference on all of them. The cache names I'm referring to are the first column below... TIA. $ cat /proc/slabinfo slabinfo - version: 1.1 (SMP) kmem_cache80 80244551 : 252 126 ip_fib_hash 11336 32331 : 252 126 journal_head 778 1001 48 13 131 : 252 126 revoke_table 2250 12111 : 252 126 revoke_record444448 32441 : 252 126 clip_arp_cache 0 0128001 : 252 126 ip_mrt_cache 0 0128001 : 252 126 tcp_tw_bucket 1140 1140128 38 381 : 252 126 tcp_bind_bucket 1049 1232 32 11 111 : 252 126 tcp_open_request 240240128881 : 252 126 inet_peer_cache4 58 64111 : 252 126 ip_dst_cache 525525256 35 351 : 252 126 arp_cache 12 60128221 : 252 126 blkdev_requests 3072 3090128 103 1031 : 252 126 dnotify_cache 0 0 20001 : 252 126 file_lock_cache2 40 96111 : 252 126 fasync_cache 0 0 16001 : 252 126 uid_cache 19224 32221 : 252 126 skbuff_head_cache943 1110256 74 741 : 252 126 sock 277315 1280 104 1051 : 60 30 sigqueue 203203132771 : 252 126 kiobuf 0 0 64001 : 252 126 cdev_cache31696 64 12 121 : 252 126 bdev_cache 4116 64221 : 252 126 mnt_cache 15174 64331 : 252 126 inode_cache19021 39585512 5655 56551 : 124 62 dentry_cache 18130 55170128 1839 18391 : 252 126 dquot 0 0128001 : 252 126 filp 12191 12240128 408 4081 : 252 126 names_cache 21 21 4096 21 211 : 60 30 buffer_head 1264828 1267350128 42245 422451 : 252 126 mm_struct585585256 39 391 : 252 126 vm_area_struct 7391 9030128 301 3011 : 252 126 fs_cache 643754 64 13 131 : 252 126 files_cache 406406512 58 581 : 124 62 signal_act 321341 1408 31 314 : 60 30 pae_pgd 641754 64 13 131 : 252 126 size-131072(DMA) 0 0 13107200 32 :00 size-1310720 0 13107200 32 :00 size-65536(DMA)0 0 6553600 16 :00 ... -- Psyche-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
Problem compiling modules?
New to the list, hi all... I'm trying to recompile the stock 8.0 kernel to include the NTFS module so I can see my win2k partition. When I try and compile the modules, I get: make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/drivers/addon/bcm5700' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `modules'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/drivers/addon/bcm5700' make -C cipe modules make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/drivers/addon/cipe' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/modversions.h -nostdinc -I /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.2/include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=module -c -o module.o module.c In file included from /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/if.h:23, from cipe.h:21, from module.c:15: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/socket.h:249: invalid suffix on integer constant /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/socket.h:249: parse error before numeric constant /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/socket.h:249: `memcpy_fromiovec_R_ver_str' declared as function returning a function /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/socket.h:249: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14/include/linux/socket.h:258: invalid suffix on integer c Then it scrolls errors forever then bombs out. Anyone know what the heck is going on? I've done nothing but the following: Copy the i686 config from the configs directory to .config make xconfig and turn off lots of modules I wont use, like the ISDN, bluetooth, most of the network card modules, etc. make dep; make clean make bzImage make modules Thats it... shouldnt the stock kernel source compile correctly?
Re: Is Redhat's postman asleep?
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:37:11AM +0100, Tom Coady wrote: > From: "Tony Nugent" > > Their mail server(s) will not accept email if the email address you > > are sending from is unresolvable in the dns. > > And rightly so. However I believe my address is resolvable otherwise I would > receive no incoming mail, and the strange thing is that redhat accepted my > mail for several weeks before they suddenly started rejecting stuff. I'm all > in favour of anything that reduces spam, but I think a system that trashes > false positives is in some ways worse. Sorry to keep having a go at redhat, > but I believe that if anyone understands mail server configuration they > should! IMHO, they're doing the right thing. Your host has an MX record which explains why you are receiving mail. However, it does not have an A record, and mail servers should have one of them. Fix the DNS and register the mail server. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@;ewilts.org Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
Re: Recompiling the Kernel
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 02:10:44PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > Can I just safely grab the gcc rpm from rpmfind.net > for 8.0, install it and be good to go, or is there another step(s) that > I have to do in order to get it to work. Any help would be appreciated. > I look forward to your responses. Thanks. Why would you go to rpmfind.net for a basic Red Hat package? Use up2date and install it from there. It will take care of all the dependencies for you and help ensure you've got something you can actually use. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@;ewilts.org Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
Re: Installing RH8.0
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 10:15:48AM -0700, Samuel Flory wrote: > M A Young wrote: > > >On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Balabhai Viktor Nikolaevich wrote: > > > > > >on drvblock.img, and see if that works. But even if it does, things may > >get complicated later, because the minimum specification for 8.0 is 64MB > >ram, and a pentium class processor. In particular there are no i386 kernel > >packages on on the discs, though there is for the later errata kernel. > > > > > > >Thoose are for being able to run X. Nope - those are for everything. Please go visit: http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/ P200 with 64MB is the minimum for text mode. 128MB is the minimum from graphics, and 192MB is recommended. Please don't correct other people on the list unless you can verify that they're wrong. If I remember right (and I'm going from my memory here), 7.3 would not install without at least 64MB either. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@;ewilts.org Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
Re: Installing RH8.0
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 01:04:49PM -0600, John Weber wrote: > I was able to install Psyche on an Athlon 233 with 64 MB Ram without X > and it seems to run fine. I tried graphic install, but it would always > lock up part way through the install. Text mode seemed to work fine, but Perhaps you need to re-read the MINIMUM requirements: http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/ 128MB for graphics mode - 64MB for text. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@;ewilts.org Member #1, Red Hat Community Ambassador Program
