Re: Logs

[Neil Bird]

Around about 06/02/2003 17:12, Marek typed ...

One of my logs seems to be growing daily by 10 Megs or so. I presume it
is a log as it happens in the / dir. How can i see which file is the
culprit ?


  'fuser file' should tell you the proc. ID of any process that's got 
it open.

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Top command broken?

[John Horne]

Hello,

I have just setup 4 redhat 8.0 servers, all of which have 2 NIC's. On 2 of
the servers both NIC's are up and running, the other 2 servers are only,
currently, using 1 NIC.

On the servers with 2 NIC's running the top command is giving some very odd
figures for the memory usage of some processes:

 12:23pm  up 6 days, 19:46,  1 user,  load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00
62 processes: 60 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
Mem:  1031620K av,  391052K used,  640568K free,   0K shrd,   77660K buff
Swap: 2097112K av, 924K used, 2096188K free  195840K
cached
 
  PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
1 root  15   0   888  884   512 S 0.0  0.0   0:04 init
2 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 keventd
3 root  34  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00 ksoftirqd_CPU0
6 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 bdflush
4 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kswapd
5 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kscand
7 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kupdated
8 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 mdrecoveryd
   14 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:01 kjournald
  103 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kjournald
  475 root  15   0 28.7G  28G 2560M S 0.0 1256.7   0:03
dead_gateway_de
  487 root  15   0   672  672   544 S 0.0  0.0   0:01 syslogd
  492 root  15   0   548  548   456 S 0.0  0.0   0:00 klogd
  501 rpc   21   0   576  572   460 S 0.0  0.0   0:00 portmap
  564 nscd  15   0   968  968   800 S 0.0  0.0   0:03 nscd
  588 named 25   0  3908 3908  3072 S 0.0  0.3   0:19 named
  620 root  15   0  672M 672M   912 S 0.0 66.7   0:05 xinetd
  635 ntp   15   0  2036 2036  1692 S 0.0  0.1   0:00 ntpd
  649 lp15   0 78776  76M  1028 S 0.0  7.6   0:00 lpd

As can be seen the system is pretty much idle - I am the only one using it
at the moment. However, the 'dead_gateway_detection' process is using 28GB
of memory! The system only has 1GB of main memory and 2GB of swap. The
'xinetd' process is using well over 600MB of memory and the printer process
'lpd' is using 76MB! Others, not shown, are sshd at 87MB and exim at 94MB -
we run exim rather than sendmail.

The dead_gateway_detection process is a shell script started at boot time to
monitor the NIC's and adjust the IP routing if one of them fails. It is a
pretty short script, so I see no way that it can use 28GB of memory.

Does anyone have any ideas about this? A similar thing is seen on the other
server with both NIC's in use. However both servers seem to be running fine.
The free command shows:

 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   1031620 391056 640564  0  77660 195844
-/+ buffers/cache: 117552 914068
Swap:  20971129242096188

so it seems that the memory is okay, but that 'top' is showing wrong figures.

The top command comes from the procps-2.0.7-25 rpm.



Thanks,

John.


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Re: rhn availability

[Jay Turner]

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:57:35PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thursday 06 February 2003 21:46, Craig White uttered:
> > Is it just me or is RHN for up2date extremely busy the last few days?
> 
> Well, there were kernel and php upgrades released in the last few days

I guess I should take this as a cue to point out that for a mere $60/year,
you can receive priority bandwidth access and never get turned away due to
network load.  There are a couple of more benefits to the Basic service as
well.  See http://rhn.redhat.com/info/purchase_info.pxt for more
information.

- jkt

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Re: Advice needed re testing network state

[Jay Turner]

On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:46:26PM +1100, John Bell wrote:

[snip]

> I'm wondering if anyone has any comments on this approach or perhaps betetr 
> ideas.

Don't know how much this is going to help, but you might want to check out
this site: http://linux-ha.org.  Specifically, you can evaluate the
heartbeat code available at http://linux-ha.org/download/.  You should be
able to pull this apart and find methods for monitoring link status.

Also, Red Hat has a package called "piranha" which includes heartbeat code
as well.  This package can be found at
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/2.1AS/en/os/i386/SRPMS/piranha-0.7.0-3.src.rpm.

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Re: window on all workspaces by default

[Jay Turner]

On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:20:25AM -0500, Eric Bourque wrote:
> Is there a way in metacity to have a window automatically placed on all
> workspaces by default? I want to load gkrellm every time I log in, and
> have it available on all workspaces, without having to right click it
> and choose "put on all workspaces".

Not sure about if there's a way to tell an application that anytime it
starts, it should appear on all workspaces, but if you always want gkrellm
available when you are logged in, you can just use the "saved session"
feature of Gnome.  Get all of your workspaces set up as you wish (with
gkrellm on all the workspaces and whatever other applications you want
running anytime you log in) then run "gnome-session-save" which will save
the session (alternatively you can just click the "save current setup"
button that appears when you select "Logout" from the main menu.)  Then the
next time that you log in, all of your applications should start up just
as you had them before logging out.

- jkt

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Re: WEP key... doesnt work in RH Linux 8

[Dave Sherman]

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 22:35, Craig White wrote:
> You have to know whether the key is a string or hex
> 
> Strings must be preceded by a $
> 
> Hex keys are 13 digits long for 64 bit - 26 digits long for 128 bit - I
> haven't a clue the length for 40 bit

I was not aware of the string/hex difference - I guess I was just lucky
that it worked for me the first time.

As to the 40 bit/64 bit question, they are the same thing - it's just a
matter of how you count the bits in the key. The 40 bit encryption uses
a 40 bit key, and a 24 bit additional string (don't remember it's
function, but the two are related) tacked on the make 64 bits total. The
128 bit encryption actually uses a 104 bit encryption key, with the same
24 bit string tacked on at the end.

I use the 64/128 numbers to be consistent, otherwise 40/104 bit would
also be consistent.

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Speaking of RHN and kernel updates...

[Dave Sherman]

Hi all,

I updated to the latest kernel yesterday, and ipsec has been disabled!
Anybody else run into this? I can boot into the previous kernel, and my
VPN comes up just fine.

I will be checking bugzilla later today for anything on this topic, and
will post to it if necessary.

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RE: An Interesting Problem

[Joshua Dolan]

Dave,

I ping'd my ISP and had no problems there.  I checked the log file and found 
the IP addys ok there.  I saw nowhere it had any errors in the log script 
with PPP, yet, you might say that it loses its way and just wont go anywhere 
after a period of time.  I was hoping that maybe there was a setting that 
might be wrong.  But at this point, that isnt the case. Yesterday, I did a 
dialup and listened to some streaming audio for a while to see what would 
happen.  I did well for about 10 minutes and then I got any error that said 
the computer had lost its connection to the server.  It doesn’t drop the 
connection to the ISP, it just refuses to keep connected to websites or 
email sites.  That is my tale of woe.  Thanks again for any ideas.



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Re: KDE 3.1.0 as rpms

[Eric Wood]

In order to reduce the number of RPM packages, they are probably combined
into related rpms.
-eric wood

- Original Message -
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> > ftp://rawhide.redhat.com
> > /pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/i386/RedHat/RPMS
>
> But that's not the complete list as I can find on ftp.kde.org
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Time zones and stuff

[Tomas Larsson]

I have realised that my winbox and my Rh box apparently doesn't use the same
timezone.
Win seems to think that RH is running GMT I believe. All times reported by
win is 2 hours in the future.
How on earth do I set the correct timezone on RH,

The contents of my localtime file is.

TZifGMT+1

My location is Sweden and we do have summertime here.

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RE: Time zones and stuff

[Carter, Shaun G]

Your BIOS may have synced to your redhat time.  Windoze runs off from the
BIOS clock (I think).  Make sure you have RH set to not use the value
'system clock uses UTC'.  Right click on the clock, hit adjust date and
time, head to the time zone tab and uncheck the value.

I may be wrong here, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I am.

Shaun

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Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Psyche-List@Redhat. Com
Subject: Time zones and stuff


I have realised that my winbox and my Rh box apparently doesn't use the same
timezone.
Win seems to think that RH is running GMT I believe. All times reported by
win is 2 hours in the future.
How on earth do I set the correct timezone on RH,

The contents of my localtime file is.

TZifGMT+1

My location is Sweden and we do have summertime here.

With best regards

Tomas Larsson

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SV: Time zones and stuff

[Tomas Larsson]

Well I don't have any screen, keyboard or mouse connected to my RH box,
using Webmin and SSL to access it.

 With best regards

Tomas Larsson

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> Ämne: RE: Time zones and stuff
> 
> 
> Your BIOS may have synced to your redhat time.  Windoze runs 
> off from the BIOS clock (I think).  Make sure you have RH set 
> to not use the value 'system clock uses UTC'.  Right click on 
> the clock, hit adjust date and time, head to the time zone 
> tab and uncheck the value.
> 
> I may be wrong here, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I am.
> 
> Shaun
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tomas Larsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:20 AM
> To: Psyche-List@Redhat. Com
> Subject: Time zones and stuff
> 
> 
> I have realised that my winbox and my Rh box apparently 
> doesn't use the same timezone. Win seems to think that RH is 
> running GMT I believe. All times reported by win is 2 hours 
> in the future. How on earth do I set the correct timezone on RH,
> 
> The contents of my localtime file is.
> 
> TZifGMT+1
> 
> My location is Sweden and we do have summertime here.
> 
> With best regards
> 
> Tomas Larsson
> 
> Verus amicus est tamquam alter idem 
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Re: disk partition

[Shane C Branch]

That does help give me some direction, thanks.

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>Hiya,
>
>Here is the breakdown for the general usage of partitions:
>
>Swap partition should be twice physical ram size. There used to be a
>128MB limit, but that is gone now.
>
>root or / partition holds all system files. RedHat 8, with the
>everything option is 4.5 GB. My root is 8 GB since I am greedy.
>
>/usr/local is where files installed by users will be placed. That should
>go accordingly. For example I have Unreal Tournament installed, and that
>took up 2.7GB of space in /usr/local/games. This partition should be one
>of the biggest if that is what you do.
>
>/boot holds the kernel and boot files. Mine is 250MB, but that is large.
>For RH 8 you can get away with 75MB, but I prefer larger mysel;f as I
>keep more kernels around.
>
>/home is where your users personal files are stored. I have a 20GB home
>partition, and I am the only one on the machine. That is overkill in my
>case. If you download a lot of software though, which I do, then  it
>should be sized accordingly. A developer for example would need a larger
>/home partition due to all the files they will have. 
>
>/var is traditionally more for logs and print spoolers, but RH has made
>it the place for web server files and the ftp root.
>
>Bottom line is it is all relative to what your purpose is. If the
>machine is a web server or ftp server, with the default RH setup, then
>/var would be another partition where you would want larger.
>
>Hope I helped a little.
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> 
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>> regards,
>> 
>> shane.
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>Regards,
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Re: window on all workspaces by default

[Eric Bourque]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 07:52, Jay Turner wrote:
> available when you are logged in, you can just use the "saved session"

Doh! I should have thought of that. I was thinking the complicated way
instead of the obvious way.

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xenix support?

[M. Yu]

Hello list,

I am planning on moving a program, currently running on SCO Xenix System V
version 2.3.4, over to Linux using iBCS2.  Browsing the web informed me that
it has been replaced by Linux-ABI and that ABI should be patched against a
vanilla (kernel.org) kernel.  However, I was also told that some distros,
including RH, distribute patched kernels already.  So does RH8 have the ABI
patch and is it already compiled into the kernel that was installed?

Hopefully, I can mount the Xenix HD too without problems, but if not,
there's always tar.   :-)

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OpenSSL 0.9.7 on Redhat 8.0

[Setera, Craig]

I'm trying to get FreeRadius up and running on my Redhat 8.0 box to do EAP/TLS 
authentication for my wireless access point.  I'm very close, but I'm having version 
mismatch problems between FreeRadius and my current OpenSSL installation.  I tried to 
install the 0.9.7 RPM from Rawhide, but had a large number of prerequisite problems.  
Am I safe to force this installation or is there a better way for me to upgrade to 
0.9.7 on Redhat 8.0?

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[Fwd: Binary only RPM ??]

[Allan M. Stewart]

This is probably the wrong place to ask, hopefully someone
can point me to the right place. 

   I am new to making RPMs. I've read over the "maximum RPM" guide
and don't understand how (or if possible) to do a simple binary-only
RPM. The guide seems to imply that you must do a build in order to
create an RPM. Our build process is not fully developed. Some of it is
done by hand. Also, this is proprietary software to run on our servers
at client locations, so we don't want to include source. 

  What I want to do is take the compiled binaries (and a few config/data
files) and make a binary installation RPM. Scripting the whole build
process in order to build an RPM seems like overkill for what I'm 
trying to do. 

  Is there an easy way to just package files and tell RPM where to 
put them on install? 

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RE: An Interesting Problem

[Dave Sherman]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 07:32, Joshua Dolan wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> I ping'd my ISP and had no problems there.  I checked the log file and found 
> the IP addys ok there.  I saw nowhere it had any errors in the log script 
> with PPP, yet, you might say that it loses its way and just wont go anywhere 
> after a period of time.  I was hoping that maybe there was a setting that 
> might be wrong.  But at this point, that isnt the case. Yesterday, I did a 
> dialup and listened to some streaming audio for a while to see what would 
> happen.  I did well for about 10 minutes and then I got any error that said 
> the computer had lost its connection to the server.  It doesn’t drop the 
> connection to the ISP, it just refuses to keep connected to websites or 
> email sites.  That is my tale of woe.  Thanks again for any ideas.

I guess the next thing I would do is fire up a packet sniffer and watch
the traffic across your ppp interface. Ethereal comes with RH 8, and has
a nice GUI front-end called ethereal-gnome or something like that. Maybe
you will see some sort of TCP timeout errors occurring, or something
else.

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Re: [Fwd: Binary only RPM ??]

[Piero Calucci]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 17:13, Allan M. Stewart wrote:
> 
> This is probably the wrong place to ask, hopefully someone
> can point me to the right place. 
> 
>I am new to making RPMs. I've read over the "maximum RPM" guide
> and don't understand how (or if possible) to do a simple binary-only
> RPM. The guide seems to imply that you must do a build in order to
> create an RPM. Our build process is not fully developed. Some of it is
> done by hand. Also, this is proprietary software to run on our servers
> at client locations, so we don't want to include source. 

when you rpmbuild -ba, you create a name-version-arch.rpm cointaining
only binaries and a name-version.src.rpm containing only source and spec
 
>   What I want to do is take the compiled binaries (and a few config/data
> files) and make a binary installation RPM. Scripting the whole build
> process in order to build an RPM seems like overkill for what I'm 
> trying to do. 

is it really harder to write a Makefile than a spec file?
 
>   Is there an easy way to just package files and tell RPM where to 
> put them on install? 

maybe you can make rpmbuild do only the already scripted part od build
process, then stop; then you complete the build/install/whatever inside
the rpm build root; then you restart rpmbuild to complete the packaging.
Maybe --short-circuit will be your friend. 

Anyway I feel this is harder than an average Makefile w/ "all:" and
"install:" entries...

good luck

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SV: Time zones and stuff, Never mind I found it

[Tomas Larsson]

timeconfig from a terminal window

Uncheck "hardware clock follows GMT"
Select the relevant timezone and press ok
After that set the correct time.


 With best regards

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> 
> 
> Well I don't have any screen, keyboard or mouse connected to 
> my RH box, using Webmin and SSL to access it.
> 
>  With best regards
> 
> Tomas Larsson
> 
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> 
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> > Skickat: den 7 februari 2003 15:27
> > Till: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Ämne: RE: Time zones and stuff
> > 
> > 
> > Your BIOS may have synced to your redhat time.  Windoze runs
> > off from the BIOS clock (I think).  Make sure you have RH set 
> > to not use the value 'system clock uses UTC'.  Right click on 
> > the clock, hit adjust date and time, head to the time zone 
> > tab and uncheck the value.
> > 
> > I may be wrong here, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I am.
> > 
> > Shaun
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tomas Larsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:20 AM
> > To: Psyche-List@Redhat. Com
> > Subject: Time zones and stuff
> > 
> > 
> > I have realised that my winbox and my Rh box apparently
> > doesn't use the same timezone. Win seems to think that RH is 
> > running GMT I believe. All times reported by win is 2 hours 
> > in the future. How on earth do I set the correct timezone on RH,
> > 
> > The contents of my localtime file is.
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LVM problems at boot

[Michael Robbert]

I've recently setup LVM on a couple of standard Red Hat boxes and in
both cases they will not boot once the LVM partition is in /etc/fstab,
unless I edit /etc/rc.sysinit. I have found through experimentation that
I need to make the following changes in order for the boot to complete.

310c310
< if [ -x /sbin/vgchange -a -f /etc/lvmtab ]; then
---
> if [ -e /proc/lvm -a -x /sbin/vgchange -a -f /etc/lvmtab ]; then
469c469
< if [ -x /sbin/vgchange -a -f /etc/lvmtab ]; then
---
> if [ -e /proc/lvm -a -x /sbin/vgchange -a -f /etc/lvmtab ]; then

Why isn't /proc/lvm present at this point or why is Red Hat needing it
to be there? When I take that out the boot happens fine and LVM works
properly. In both instances I have setup the LVM after the install not
during.


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Re: LVM problems at boot

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 08:44, Michael Robbert wrote:
> Why isn't /proc/lvm present at this point or why is Red Hat needing it
> to be there? When I take that out the boot happens fine and LVM works
> properly. In both instances I have setup the LVM after the install not
> during.

/proc/lvm is created when the lvm-mod module is loaded.  If the LVM module is 
loaded in the initrd, then Red Hat knows it needs to run vgscan/change so 
that it could mount LVM devices at boot time.

What you need to do is re-create your initrd (mkinitrd).  If you have LVM 
mounts in /etc/fstab than the LVM module will be included.  If not, use the 
--with=lvm-mod option to mkinitrd.  lvmcreate_initrd seems quite broken on RH 
systems, as it doesn't take advantage of /dev/MAKEDEV and tries to copy every 
/dev/* file to the initrd, thus running it out of space.

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Compaq DL380 G3/aic7xxx problem

[Ethan VanMatre]

Hi,

 I'm running a 2.4.18-14smp kernel with the 6.2.28 aic7xxx driver. The
system hangs when doing I/O to the hardware raid disks attached to the
aic7899 interface.

 When the system hangs there is nothing written to the logs, a running top
shows nothing unusual (lots of memory, sway and a reasonable load
average). The keyboard does not respond and video is blank. The network
card does not respond to a ping.

 The only thing unusual with this system is that the hardware raid
controller is set up to show 8 devices using 1 scsi id and 8 lun.

 So where to look? Is it a problem with the aic7xxx driver, the interrupt
system in the compaq or the phase of the moon.

 As a sided note: the raid controller using this configuration was moved
over from a DL380 G1 machine running RH7.1 (unknown aic7xxx version) where
it worked without problems for over a year.

Thanks, Ethan

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Re: RPM's & Version doubts.

[Philippe]

Hi,

You can use synaptic, from conectiva. Even if you don't use the upgrade
function (via apt_rpm " a la Debian"), you will see the list of your
packages installed, non installed, etc ...

Regards,

Philippe

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 20:12, marcos.otc wrote:
> In the past, we had the kpackage to see the database rpm.
> Nowadays what we should use ?
> Am I asking in terms of graphic interface (environment), ok?
> 
> The RH8 program to dealing with RPM database is an
> only "instalation wizard",  that is not updated with the
> packages that we installed.
> 
> -0-
> 
> I am constantly updating my system through RHNetwork.
> Including the kernel updatings. I saw that when beginning,
> I am still informed that the kernel stays ...14 and the files
> and slinks into /boot pointing to ...19.
> Why ?
> 
> -0-
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
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Kernel Compile Question

[Mark Hoover]

Greetings everyone..

I have a question that seems to be a bit of a mystery.

I recently installed RH8 on a 486 system that I want to use as a gateway/router 
machine.  When I compile the 2.4.20 kernel, I for some reason end up with a 
initrd-2.4.20.img file.  I specifically told menuconfig that I did *not* want to use a 
ramdisk as I don't compile anything as a module, I have the whole kernel configured to 
build everything into the kernel.

If I take the same config file and move it to a Pentium 100 with 48MB ram, it'll 
compile without this initial ramdisk.

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Up2date

[Harold Helmich]

What are the issues with changing the channel the name in up2date from 
your current dist to the next?  If I update all is that the same as 
installing new version?  Can I selectively update packages this way? 
For example get the latest version of X?

Anyone ever do it?  Horror stories?

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Re: Kernel Compile Question

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 09:58, Mark Hoover wrote:
> I recently installed RH8 on a 486 system that I want to use as a
> gateway/router machine.  When I compile the 2.4.20 kernel, I for some
> reason end up with a initrd-2.4.20.img file.  I specifically told
> menuconfig that I did *not* want to use a ramdisk as I don't compile
> anything as a module, I have the whole kernel configured to build
> everything into the kernel.
>
> If I take the same config file and move it to a Pentium 100 with 48MB ram,
> it'll compile without this initial ramdisk.

The "make install" section may hit mkinitrd.  Try booting w/out the initrd, 
will it boot?  If so, just rm it.

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Re: Up2date

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 09:59, Harold Helmich wrote:
> What are the issues with changing the channel the name in up2date from
> your current dist to the next?  If I update all is that the same as
> installing new version?  Can I selectively update packages this way?
>  For example get the latest version of X?
>
> Anyone ever do it?  Horror stories?

Unsupported, likely to break your system.

YMMV

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Re: Up2date

[Harold Helmich]

Jesse Keating wrote:


On Friday 07 February 2003 09:59, Harold Helmich wrote:
 

What are the issues with changing the channel the name in up2date from
your current dist to the next?  If I update all is that the same as
installing new version?  Can I selectively update packages this way?
For example get the latest version of X?

Anyone ever do it?  Horror stories?
   


Unsupported, likely to break your system.

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Failure building 2.5.59 RPM

[dsavage]

I just downloaded the latest linux-2.5.59.tar.bz2 file from kernel.org,
bunzipped in in /usr/src, and tried 'make rpm'.  After several hundred
lines of initial output, the process failed with this output:

+ make oldconfig dep clean bzImage modules
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'.  Stop.
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.72887 (%build)


RPM build errors:
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.72887 (%build)
make: *** [rpm] Error 1

Running a fully up2updated RH8 system. Does 'make rpm' work for anyone else?

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LSI MegaRAID Elite 1600

[Jesse Keating]

Is anybody usin this dual channel SCSI raid card with Red Hat?  Experiences?  
Good/bad?  I'm looking at possibly using it in our lowerend servers, but 
wanted to get some info on it first.

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Re: LVM problems at boot

[Tom Georgoulias]

Michael Robbert wrote:

I've recently setup LVM on a couple of standard Red Hat boxes and in
both cases they will not boot once the LVM partition is in /etc/fstab,
unless I edit /etc/rc.sysinit.


I see the exact same thing, except on a 7.3 system.  When I'm running 
kernels 2.4.18-18 & 2.4.18-24, the default rc.sysinit works.  When I use 
2.4.18-19, it doesn't.  2.4.18-19 never loads lvm-mod on it's own so 
that /proc/lvm can be created...

Which kernel are you using?

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KT400 motherboard compatibility

[Tom Georgoulias]

Is anyone using a motherboard based on the Via KT400 chipset?

I'm specifically looking at the MSI KT4VL (stripped down version of the 
KT4 Ultra) and wanted to know if there were any horror stories 
associated with such a new board and chipset.  I won't be using too many 
of the new features (I've got DDR 266 ram and an Athlon Thunderbird and 
no plans to upgrade either), but I want to ensure this new board works 
as well as my old KT133A board.

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Re: LVM problems at boot

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 10:55, Tom Georgoulias wrote:
> I see the exact same thing, except on a 7.3 system.  When I'm running
> kernels 2.4.18-18 & 2.4.18-24, the default rc.sysinit works.  When I use
> 2.4.18-19, it doesn't.  2.4.18-19 never loads lvm-mod on it's own so
> that /proc/lvm can be created...

LVm won't load at boot time unless your initrd specifies it to.  Like I said 
before, you have to makeinitrd --with=lvm-mod  if you want to force the load 
of LVM modules at boot time.  Once the LVM module is loaded, vgscan works 
just fine during the bootup phase.

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Re: KT400 motherboard compatibility

[Stephen Mah]

Tom Georgoulias wrote:

Is anyone using a motherboard based on the Via KT400 chipset?

I'm specifically looking at the MSI KT4VL (stripped down version of the 
KT4 Ultra) and wanted to know if there were any horror stories 
associated with such a new board and chipset.  I won't be using too many 
of the new features (I've got DDR 266 ram and an Athlon Thunderbird and 
no plans to upgrade either), but I want to ensure this new board works 
as well as my old KT133A board.

Tom



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Re: Bash pattern matching

[Vikram Goyal]

-Original Message-
From: Tim Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:57:35PM +
To PsycheList
Subject: Re: Bash pattern matching

> 
> You are confusing fnmatch-style patterns (which the shell uses) with
> regular expressions (which it doesn't).
> 
> Tim.
> */

Sorry, your answer is not clear. man bash says:

Pattern Matching

 Any character that appears in a pattern, other than the special
 pattern characters  described below, matches itself.  The NUL
 character may not occur in a pattern.  The special pattern
 characters must be  quoted  if they are to be matched literally.

 The special pattern characters have the following meanings:

 *  Matches any string including the null string.
 ?  Matches any single character.
 [...]  Matches any one of the enclosed characters. A pair of charac-
ters separated by a hyphen denotes a range expression; any char-
AND SO ON...

Which patterns is it talking about?
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Re: problem with rebuilding the samba rpm from the source rpm

[Rishi Gangoly]

> On Saturday 01 February 2003 09:23 am, Rishi Gangoly wrote:
>
> > 
> > checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files
> > /var/tmp/samba-2.2.7-root
> >
> > error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
> > /usr/bin/findsmb
> > /usr/share/man1/findsmb.1.gz
> > /usr/share/man1/smbsh.1.gz
> > 
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > I needed to add the --with-nis option and so had to re-compile samba
> > using the source RPM.
> >
> > What does this error mean and why did this happen?
>
> It's a new feature of recent versions of rpm.
> It means that files were installed in the build root, but not included in
> the final rpm package. (Because they were not defined in the %files
> portion of the specfile.)
> To stop it:
>
> echo "%_unpackaged_files_terminate_build  0" >> ~/.rpmmacros
> echo "%_missing_doc_files_terminate_build  0" >> ~/.rpmmacros
>
> I believe installing the redhat-rpm-config package will also define the
> above macros. (in /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/macros)
>
> - --
> - -Michael


Hello again...

I installed redhat-rpm-config and tried to rebuild samba. No joy.

I edited the two options you mentioned in the file /usr/lib/rpm/macros from
1 to 0 and bingo it worked.

However, would you be able to shed some light on what this is and why is it
enabled by default?

I tried to read the comments, but it went over my head.

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Re: xenix support?

[Arjan van de Ven]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 17:02, M. Yu wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I am planning on moving a program, currently running on SCO Xenix System V
> version 2.3.4, over to Linux using iBCS2.  Browsing the web informed me that
> it has been replaced by Linux-ABI and that ABI should be patched against a
> vanilla (kernel.org) kernel.  However, I was also told that some distros,
> including RH, distribute patched kernels already.  So does RH8 have the ABI
> patch and is it already compiled into the kernel that was installed?

The RH8 kernel does have a partial ABI patch but I'm pretty sure Xenix
won't work.



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Re: KT400 motherboard compatibility

[Tom Georgoulias]

Stephen Mah wrote:


you might want to try this forumn:
http://www.amdforums.com


Thanks, that's a good resource.  So far I've found one post from a guy 
who was successful and another by one who said it wouldn't work without 
kernel 2.4.20.  ;)

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Re: OpenSSL 0.9.7 on Redhat 8.0

[Nalin Dahyabhai]

On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:03:24AM -0600, Setera, Craig wrote:
> I'm trying to get FreeRadius up and running on my Redhat 8.0 box to do
> EAP/TLS authentication for my wireless access point.  I'm very close,
> but I'm having version mismatch problems between FreeRadius and my
> current OpenSSL installation.  I tried to install the 0.9.7 RPM from
> Rawhide, but had a large number of prerequisite problems.  Am I safe
> to force this installation or is there a better way for me to upgrade
> to 0.9.7 on Redhat 8.0?

Please don't install packages from Raw Hide using --nodeps (--force
actually wouldn't have helped here -- the --force option is just a
combination of --replacepkgs and --replacefiles).  Rampant use of the
--nodeps option can break a system in ways which are Hard to fix.

If you want to install the 0.9.7 packages, install the openssl096b
compatibility package at the same time to avoid breaking dependencies.

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Re: LSI MegaRAID Elite 1600

[dsavage]

Jesse,

Is this an LSI-rebranded AMI MegaRAID card? If so, I've had excellent luck
with an older MegaRAID 1200 card and Red Hat. Its lengthy BIOS POST is a
bit annoying when rebooting, but that's about the only downside. The Linux
driver is solid. I'm currently running fifteen 4.5G IBM U+W drives in a
63G hardware RAID5 array that Red Hat sees as a simple /dev/sda. With 128M
of on-board cache RAM, it's very fast.

--Doc Savage
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On Friday February 7, 2002 Jesse Keating wrote:
> Is anybody usin this dual channel SCSI raid card with Red Hat?
> Experiences?   Good/bad?  I'm looking at possibly using it in our
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Re: LSI MegaRAID Elite 1600

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 12:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is this an LSI-rebranded AMI MegaRAID card? If so, I've had excellent luck
> with an older MegaRAID 1200 card and Red Hat. Its lengthy BIOS POST is a
> bit annoying when rebooting, but that's about the only downside. The Linux
> driver is solid. I'm currently running fifteen 4.5G IBM U+W drives in a
> 63G hardware RAID5 array that Red Hat sees as a simple /dev/sda. With 128M
> of on-board cache RAM, it's very fast.

yeah, just rebranded.  LSI seems to be doing a lot of that, since they are now 
selling mylex cards too.  Does LSI make any hardware themselves?

Anywho, we are looking at the Elite 1600, or a single channel card, the 500 
express.

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Re: OpenSSL 0.9.7 on Redhat 8.0

[Ed Wilts]

On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:11:34PM -0500, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote:
> Please don't install packages from Raw Hide using --nodeps (--force
> actually wouldn't have helped here -- the --force option is just a
> combination of --replacepkgs and --replacefiles).  Rampant use of the
> --nodeps option can break a system in ways which are Hard to fix.

A *much* better (than --force) way to get newer packages to install on
older releases is to grab the source rpm and then do an --rebuild on it.
Quite often the package will successfully build on your system, and then
you can install it.  I've done it with a few packages (mailman, zip,
etc) and have had good success.  If the package won't rebuild, then look
at other options.  Forcing the install usually will not work if the
rebuild didn't.

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Using TLS with OpenLDAP "ldapsearch" that comes with RH 8.0

[Saqib . N . Ali]

Hi All,

I am trying to connect to LDAP server using the OpenLDP "ldapsearch"
command line utility that comes with RH 8.0.

The command line that I am using is as follow:
$ ldapsearch -x -ZZ -h my.ldap.server -b "o=SC" "uid=saqib"
ldap_start_tls: Protocol error (2)

As the error shows, the START_TLS failed.

I am connecting to a SunOne Directory Server, that supports TLS.

I am wondering if the "ldapsearch" (part of OpenLDAP) utility that ships
with RH 8.0 supports TLS. Or should I compile my own OpenLDAP from source?
Has anyone tried TLS connection using the ldapsearch that comes with RH
8.0?

Thanks

In Peace,
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Re: Up2date

[M A Young]

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Harold Helmich wrote:

> What are the issues with changing the channel the name in up2date from 
> your current dist to the next?  If I update all is that the same as 
> installing new version?  Can I selectively update packages this way? 
>  For example get the latest version of X?

 I tried upgrading releases by upgrading all the packages a few releases
back, admittedly on a disposable machine, without any problems that I
remember. Provided you don't jump major versions it will probably work,
but it certainly isn't supported, and if it breaks you get to keep all the
pieces. The difference between a package upgrade and a normal upgrade is
that RedHat can make extra fixes, and improve package selection during the
normal upgrade process. 
 Note that if you upgrade something like X, there are probably other
subsiduary packages you need to upgrade as well (and dependencies in
rawhide or beta releases aren't always complete), so you may end upgrading
most of the system anyway. I would have said a prerequisite for trying it
is good rpm handling skills (eg. dependency tracking). 

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Redhat-config-services not working anymore !!!

[Cedric Chausson]

Hello all,

Recently I wanted to use the Redhat tool to start and stop services 
(redhat-config-services). I had used it several times in the past with 
no problem.

I clicked on Services in the Server parameters menu of the start menu. 
The window of the application startet to appeart but sort of grayed out 
and then disappeared. I tried several times like this to no avail.

Then I tried to launch it from the command line. I typed 
redhat-config-services. I had the same experience as from  clicking on 
the start menu : window appears shortly before disappearing. But I also 
had an error message, it sayed :

[Errno 2] No file or directory of this type : '/etc/init.d/Services'

I looked in /etc/init.d/ and there is in fact no Services file.

Any ideas about this ? It was working perfeclty before. Could this be 
due to upgrade in the kernel through RHN ?

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Re: Using TLS with OpenLDAP "ldapsearch" that comes with RH 8.0

[Nalin Dahyabhai]

On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:03:10PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to connect to LDAP server using the OpenLDP "ldapsearch"
> command line utility that comes with RH 8.0.
> 
> The command line that I am using is as follow:
> $ ldapsearch -x -ZZ -h my.ldap.server -b "o=SC" "uid=saqib"
> ldap_start_tls: Protocol error (2)
> 
> As the error shows, the START_TLS failed.
> 
> I am connecting to a SunOne Directory Server, that supports TLS.
> 
> I am wondering if the "ldapsearch" (part of OpenLDAP) utility that ships
> with RH 8.0 supports TLS. Or should I compile my own OpenLDAP from source?
> Has anyone tried TLS connection using the ldapsearch that comes with RH
> 8.0?

Yes, ldapsearch (actually, OpenLDAP) is built with TLS support enabled.
First, be certain that you should be using STARTTLS instead of the older
"LDAP over SSL" method which you'd get by specifying:
  -H ldaps://my.ldap.server/
insetad of
  -ZZ -h my.ldap.server

Given that that's alright, check that the server supports the version of
the LDAP protocol that the client is attempting to use, by specifying
either "-P 2" or "-P 3" on the command line.  IIRC using TLS forces use
of LDAPv3, and not all servers support both LDAPv2 and LDAPv3.

If the protocol's all correct, and it's actually an error starting up
TLS, you can use OpenSSL to verify that the certificate looks alright.
Use OpenSSL to dump out the contents of the certificate which you'd get
connecting to the ldaps port:
  openssl s_client -connect my.ldap.server:ldaps

Copy and paste the text between (and including) the lines which read
"-BEGIN CERTIFICATE-" and "-END CERTIFICATE", and paste
them into:
  openssl x509 -noout -text

Check that the validity dates are correct, and check that the common
name encoded in the certificate (the "CN" part of the subject's name)
matches how you're giving ldapsearch the name of the server -- they must
match *exactly*.

HTH,

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Re: Up2date

[M A Young]

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, M A Young wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Harold Helmich wrote:
> 
> > What are the issues with changing the channel the name in up2date from 
> > your current dist to the next?  If I update all is that the same as 
> > installing new version?  Can I selectively update packages this way? 
> >  For example get the latest version of X?
> 
>  I tried upgrading releases by upgrading all the packages a few releases
> back, admittedly on a disposable machine, without any problems that I
> remember. Provided you don't jump major versions it will probably work,
> but it certainly isn't supported, and if it breaks you get to keep all the
> pieces. The difference between a package upgrade and a normal upgrade is
> that RedHat can make extra fixes, and improve package selection during the
> normal upgrade process. 
>  Note that if you upgrade something like X, there are probably other
> subsiduary packages you need to upgrade as well (and dependencies in
> rawhide or beta releases aren't always complete), so you may end upgrading
> most of the system anyway. I would have said a prerequisite for trying it
> is good rpm handling skills (eg. dependency tracking). 

If you want an example of what might go wrong look at
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=83737
where the problem is likely to be that not enough packages upgraded, quite
possibly the rpm package.

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Installing a PRISM 2.5 Integrated WLAN adaptor.

[Camron W. Fox]

Alle,

I've recently installed Redhat 8 on an FJ LifeBook E7110 which has an
integrated WLAN interface (PRISM2.5) from Harris Semiconductor. Has anyone
had any experience/luck setting one of these interfaces up?

Best Regards,
Camron

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Fujitsu America, INC.
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Re: KT400 motherboard compatibility

[Michael Fratoni]

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On Friday 07 February 2003 01:47 pm, Tom Georgoulias wrote:
> Is anyone using a motherboard based on the Via KT400 chipset?
>
> I'm specifically looking at the MSI KT4VL (stripped down version of the
> KT4 Ultra) and wanted to know if there were any horror stories
> associated with such a new board and chipset.  I won't be using too
> many of the new features (I've got DDR 266 ram and an Athlon
> Thunderbird and no plans to upgrade either), but I want to ensure this
> new board works as well as my old KT133A board.

I'm running an ASUS A7V8X (DDR400 RAM, AMD Athlon 2600)
I've had no problems at all.
http://www.asus.com.tw/mb/socketa/a7v8x/overview.htm

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rawhide

[Stephen Mah]

Does rawhide mean that the packages are beta?

how does these packages differ from the errata updates?




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Re: window on all workspaces by default

[Eric Bourque]

It seems I spoke too soon. This only works for one workspace even when
the window was placed on all workspaces when I chose "save session" on
logout. Any ideas for getting it to work for all workspaces?

Cheers,

Eric

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 10:15, Eric Bourque wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 07:52, Jay Turner wrote:
> > available when you are logged in, you can just use the "saved session"
> 
> Doh! I should have thought of that. I was thinking the complicated way
> instead of the obvious way.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Eric
> 
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Promise Ultra133 TX2 cards with latest RHL 8.0 (kernel 2.4.18-24.8 smp)

[Paul M. Livingston]

Does anyone have experience with this card under psyche?

I have used one under 7.3 without any patches , although not as the 
controller for the boot drive, but the Promise web site implies that you 
need to patch the kernel (with different patches for 2.4.18 and 2.4.19) 
prior to use under Linux.  Thus I'm both a tad confused and 
concerned.  This controller will be going into an older ABit BP6 MB with 
dual Celerons (not over clocked) to accommodate a pair of Maxtor D740X 40 
GB drives which are being moved off a flaky on-board ATA66 
controller.  Information, insights or suggestions most welcome

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Re: rawhide

[Tony Nugent]

On Fri Feb 07 2003 at 16:14, Stephen Mah wrote:

> Does rawhide mean that the packages are beta?

yes

> how does these packages differ from the errata updates?

see the first question :)

Cheers
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Re: window on all workspaces by default

[Tony Nugent]

On Fri Feb 07 2003 at 19:19, Eric Bourque wrote:

> It seems I spoke too soon. This only works for one workspace even when
> the window was placed on all workspaces when I chose "save session" on
> logout. Any ideas for getting it to work for all workspaces?

It's a right PITA but it has *never* worked like that, ever.  Pity.

> > > available when you are logged in, you can just use the "saved session"
> >
> > Doh! I should have thought of that. I was thinking the complicated way
> > instead of the obvious way.

Cheers
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Re: rawhide

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 16:14, Stephen Mah wrote:
> Does rawhide mean that the packages are beta?
>
> how does these packages differ from the errata updates?

Rawhide is a dumping ground for developmental packages.  Proposed fixes, stuff 
like that.  A package being in rawhide is by no means a guarentee that it 
will eventually be released as errata, or released period.  It's just a 
testing ground.

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Re: Redhat-config-services not working anymore !!!

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:26:24 +0100, Cedric Chausson wrote:

> Recently I wanted to use the Redhat tool to start and stop services 
> (redhat-config-services). I had used it several times in the past with 
> no problem.
> 
> I clicked on Services in the Server parameters menu of the start menu. 
> The window of the application startet to appeart but sort of grayed out 
> and then disappeared. I tried several times like this to no avail.
> 
> Then I tried to launch it from the command line. I typed 
> redhat-config-services. I had the same experience as from  clicking on 
> the start menu : window appears shortly before disappearing. But I also 
> had an error message, it sayed :
> 
> [Errno 2] No file or directory of this type : '/etc/init.d/Services'

Sure about that? 

Or did it say /etc/services? In that case, what do you get for
"rpm -V setup"?

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Re: rhn availability

[Mike Vanecek]

-- Original Message ---
From: Jay Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:36:06 -0500
Subject: Re: rhn availability

> On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:57:35PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 February 2003 21:46, Craig White uttered:
> > > Is it just me or is RHN for up2date extremely busy the last few days?
> > 
> > Well, there were kernel and php upgrades released in the last few days
> 
> I guess I should take this as a cue to point out that for a mere $60/year,
> you can receive priority bandwidth access and never get turned away due to
> network load.  There are a couple of more benefits to the Basic service as
> well.  See http://rhn.redhat.com/info/purchase_info.pxt for more
> information.
--- End of Original Message ---

A Basic subscription to Red Hat Network provides:

* Email notifications of available updates (errata)
* Flexible scheduling of updates
* Delivery of the actual updated files (packages)
* Summaries of update results

Red Hat Network Basic Service offers all of the functionality formerly found
in Software Manager at a new low price. Features include:

* Errata Notification. Be the first to know about Red Hat's patches.
Subscribe to email errata notification through Red Hat Network.
* Improved Search Capabilites. Search through Red Hat's collection of
packages and errata.
* Instant Errata Updates. Immediately bring your systems up-to-date with
the click of a button.
* Instant ISOs. For customers who have purchased subscriptions to Red Hat
Network, ISO images are available for immediate download. Beat the rush to the
FTP servers by downloading directly from Red Hat Network.

I had the Basic service with the boxed Pro set I purchased. Where exactly
should I have found the above features once I logged onto Rhn?  Somehow it was
not clear to me that I had any added value. The couple of questions I posted
to customer support during the install period did not impress me much either
(more help here!). Would probably not mind the $60/yr donation if I understood
better its benefits.





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Re: disk partition

[Mike Vanecek]

-- Original Message ---
From: "Shane C Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 09:55:59 -0500
Subject: Re: disk partition

> That does help give me some direction, thanks.
> 
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> 
> >
> >Hiya,
> >
> >Here is the breakdown for the general usage of partitions:
--- End of Original Message ---

I guess one could always go with a 500MB /boot, a 1 GB sway, and whatever is
left over goes to /.  The suggestion that separate partitions are need to
protect from run-away programs, security, and so on may be valid. However,
guessing the incorrect size of a partition could cause more of a problem?

Please set me straight if doing such a simple partition is really a potential
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Re: Web Based Newsreader

[Mike Vanecek]

-- Original Message ---
From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 Feb 2003 21:42:05 -0700
Subject: Re: Web Based Newsreader

> On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 18:23, Mike Vanecek wrote:
> > I have Open WebMail installed as a web based email reader. I would like to
> > install something along the same lines to allow news group reading. I do not
> > want to run a nntp, just have web access to a reader so that header
> > information is maintained on a one machine. Hence, one could read news groups
> > from any machine using any browser and always have the group, group headers
> > counts, read/unread flags, and so on kept on a single machine. 
> > 
> > I searched Google, but did not find anything that seemed to meet my needs
> > since I am not looking for a local newsreader (pan, etc.), but rather a web
> > based reader. 
> > 
> > Anything anyone has used with RH 8?
> > 
> -
> never used it...
>  - see the 'Troll' project.
> 
> I use IMP/Turba/Kronolith/Nag
--- End of Original Message ---

Thanks, downloaded the tarball and will take a look at it.

Ah, should I know what "IMP/Turba/Kronolith/Nag" means?

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Re: rawhide

[Ed Wilts]

On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:14:20PM -0800, Stephen Mah wrote:
> Does rawhide mean that the packages are beta?

The definitive answer comes from Red Hat themselves. In the rawhide
directory, you'll find a README.  I'm including parts below since this
quetion gets asked frequently.  Read the README - it has important
warnings!  It's over 3 years old, but still valid.

--- snip ---

Chomping at the Bit for Raw Hide 

The growing user base of Linux highlights the need for early, accurate, 
and broadly disseminated information on new features and trends in Linux 
development. We can't think of a better way of keeping our user base fully 
informed on what we are up to then regularly posting our development release 
and source code. Announcements on http://developer.redhat.com and newsletters 
available from Red Hat will provide our users with constant updates on the 
evolution of Red Hat Linux. 

Raw Hide Can Be a Bit Tough to Chew on So Run at Your Own Risk (and Enjoyment)

These releases have not been quality tested by Red Hat's Quality Assurance 
team. They may not boot. If they boot, they may not install. If they install, 
they may not do anything other then waste CPU cycles. If anything breaks, 
you most assuredly own the many fragments which will be littered across your 
floor. 

It may not be possible to upgrade from Red Hat to Raw Hide, from Raw Hide 
to Red Hat, or from Raw Hide to Raw Hide! If a stable upgrade path is 
important to you, please do not use Raw Hide. 

DO NOT USE THESE RELEASES FOR ANY WORK WHERE YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR APPLICATION 
RUNNING, THE ACCURACY OF YOUR DATA, THE INTEGRITY OF YOUR NETWORK, OR ANY 
OTHER PURPOSE FOR WHICH A RESPONSIBLE HUMAN WOULD USE A COMPUTER. (But then 
again what would be the fun of hacking Linux if there wasn't some risk 
involved. ;-)) 

These releases will be available from ftp.redhat.com:/pub/rawhide. A list 
of Raw Hide mirrors will be available as such mirrors come online. 

Enjoy!
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Re: Web Based Newsreader

[Mike Vanecek]

Their site musta got zapped. They are rebuilding it and only have a bare
minimum of info up. I guess I will wait a while until it is back up. Since you
are using it, one can assume you are satisfied with it? Wish the doco was up.
Looks interesting.

Thanks.

-- Original Message ---
From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 05:49:23 +
Subject: Re: Web Based Newsreader

> I use phpgroupware (phpgroupware.org). It is a php web based groupware app.  The
> apps are setup as modules so you can select which ones are shown for each
individual
> user
> 
> Anyway, it has a nntp reader ... you may also find the calendar, addressbook,
> todo,notes, and email are to your liking (I don't use many of the other
modules that
> are available)
> 
> Mike Vanecek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
> >
> >I have Open WebMail installed as a web based email reader. I would like to
> >install something along the same lines to allow news group reading. I do not
> >want to run a nntp, just have web access to a reader so that header
> >information is maintained on a one machine. Hence, one could read news groups
> >from any machine using any browser and always have the group, group headers
> >counts, read/unread flags, and so on kept on a single machine.
> >
> >I searched Google, but did not find anything that seemed to meet my needs
> >since I am not looking for a local newsreader (pan, etc.), but rather a web
> >based reader.
> >
> >Anything anyone has used with RH 8?
> >
> >Thanks.
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Re: rhn availability

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 17:20, Mike Vanecek uttered:
> I had the Basic service with the boxed Pro set I purchased. Where exactly
> should I have found the above features once I logged onto Rhn?  Somehow it
> was not clear to me that I had any added value. The couple of questions I
> posted to customer support during the install period did not impress me
> much either (more help here!). Would probably not mind the $60/yr donation
> if I understood better its benefits.

Your boxed set subscription was for only 2 months.  Pro is a 2month 
subscription, while Personal is a 1 month IIRC.

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Re: rhn availability

[Mike Vanecek]

-- Original Message ---
From: Jesse Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:19:39 -0800
Subject: Re: rhn availability

> On Friday 07 February 2003 17:20, Mike Vanecek uttered:
> > I had the Basic service with the boxed Pro set I purchased. Where exactly
> > should I have found the above features once I logged onto Rhn?  Somehow it
> > was not clear to me that I had any added value. The couple of questions I
> > posted to customer support during the install period did not impress me
> > much either (more help here!). Would probably not mind the $60/yr donation
> > if I understood better its benefits.
> 
> Your boxed set subscription was for only 2 months.  Pro is a 2month 
> subscription, while Personal is a 1 month IIRC.
--- End of Original Message ---

Understand. However, I was trying to determine the benefit of renewing the 60
day subscription. Obviously, I must be missing out on some of the advantages
of the basic over the demo or was looking in all the wrong places.




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Re: rhn availability

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 18:18, Mike Vanecek uttered:
> Understand. However, I was trying to determine the benefit of renewing the
> 60 day subscription. Obviously, I must be missing out on some of the
> advantages of the basic over the demo or was looking in all the wrong
> places.

Your 2 month "Demo" is what the Basic service is.  Once your Demo runs out, 
you longer have those benefits.  If you want to continue to enjoy RHN 
services, and not get shut off when load is high, you need to pay for an RHN 
subscription.

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Tripwire reports

[Mike Vanecek]

After a while, tripwire reports will start to build up in
/var/lib/tripwire/report/.  Does anyone have a crontab script or other scheme
for removing the old ones on a periodic basis?

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Re: disk partition

[Thomas Molina]

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Mike Vanecek wrote:

> I guess one could always go with a 500MB /boot, a 1 GB sway, and whatever is
> left over goes to /.  The suggestion that separate partitions are need to
> protect from run-away programs, security, and so on may be valid. However,
> guessing the incorrect size of a partition could cause more of a problem?
> 
> Please set me straight if doing such a simple partition is really a potential
> exposure to security.

The thing is, security is never an absolute.  Protecting such directories 
as /var is good.  Making /home a seperate partition ensures a rogue, or 
careless, user from bringing down the system.  With the right partition 
setup you can make all your system directories such as /bin /sbin, /usr as 
read-only.  It depends on how paranoid you are.  

It is not just about security either.  Having /home, /usr/local, /root, 
/mnt, and /opt as their own partitions means I can unmount all of them and 
do an operating system install/upgrade or what have you and not endanger 
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installing Red Hat 8.0 on a system with 2 processors and 3 SCSIhard drives...

[Steve Strong]

I work for a school and we've been given an HP Kayak server:

2 500 mhz cpu's
3 9 gig SCSI hard drives

I can see the cpu's and hard drives in the BIOS, but the installer only
sees one hard drive and I think just one cpu.  The SCSI driver is loaded
without error messages during the install.

Does Red Hat 8.0 Professional support multiple cpu's and SCSI hard
drives?  If so, what am I doing wrong and if not, what a bummer!

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Web Based Newsreader

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 18:42, Mike Vanecek wrote:
> -- Original Message ---
> From: Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 Feb 2003 21:42:05 -0700
> Subject: Re: Web Based Newsreader
> 
> > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 18:23, Mike Vanecek wrote:
> > > I have Open WebMail installed as a web based email reader. I would like to
> > > install something along the same lines to allow news group reading. I do not
> > > want to run a nntp, just have web access to a reader so that header
> > > information is maintained on a one machine. Hence, one could read news groups
> > > from any machine using any browser and always have the group, group headers
> > > counts, read/unread flags, and so on kept on a single machine. 
> > > 
> > > I searched Google, but did not find anything that seemed to meet my needs
> > > since I am not looking for a local newsreader (pan, etc.), but rather a web
> > > based reader. 
> > > 
> > > Anything anyone has used with RH 8?
> > > 
> > -
> > never used it...
> >  - see the 'Troll' project.
> > 
> > I use IMP/Turba/Kronolith/Nag
> --- End of Original Message ---
> 
> Thanks, downloaded the tarball and will take a look at it.
> 
> Ah, should I know what "IMP/Turba/Kronolith/Nag" means?
> 
> Mike.
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IMP - mail
Kronolith - calendar
Nag - task list
Horde - basic framework

Horde is required - all others are optional / built upon horde framework
& API

I heavily recommend IMP and having IMP handle authentication (typically
against IMAP server) but if you have LDAP, or actually want to use an
sql database for users/password authentication then use Horde to
authenticate.

Web site seems fine / normal - I don't see any problems

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Re: installing Red Hat 8.0 on a system with 2 processors and 3 SCSIhard drives...

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:13, Steve Strong wrote:
> I work for a school and we've been given an HP Kayak server:
> 
>   2 500 mhz cpu's
>   3 9 gig SCSI hard drives
> 
> I can see the cpu's and hard drives in the BIOS, but the installer only
> sees one hard drive and I think just one cpu.  The SCSI driver is loaded
> without error messages during the install.
> 
> Does Red Hat 8.0 Professional support multiple cpu's and SCSI hard
> drives?  If so, what am I doing wrong and if not, what a bummer!
-
Is there a raid controller on the system?  If so, it's possible that the
raid configuration created only 1 system drive which is all that would
be seen by software...

I would presume that all of the SCSI controllers would show themselves
and the methods to invoke the configuration during POST - Many of these
systems would have perhaps an Adaptec 78xxx compatible chipset embedded
on the motherboard along with a DAC 960 Raid controller in an ISA or PCI
slot and the hard drives would be on the Raid controller.

Always a good thing to know your hardware first...

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Re: window on all workspaces by default

[Emanuel Mair]

On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 00:20:25 -0500 A.D.,
Eric Bourque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> carved the following runes about
"window on all workspaces by default":

> Is there a way in metacity to have a window automatically placed on
> all workspaces by default? I want to load gkrellm every time I log in,
> and have it available on all workspaces, without having to right click
> it and choose "put on all workspaces".

How I got this behaviour with gkrellm:

* Download the latest gkrellm (currently 2.1.7) from
http://psyche.freshrpms.net

* In gkrellm's Prefs/General/Properties, choose "set sticky state" (or
the equivalent, I'm translating back to English from my Swedish locale
now).

* If you want gkrellm to be excluded from the GNOME panel, workspace
switcher and such, choose "Do not include on a taskbar" in the prefs and
then you'll have to edit ~/.gkrellm2/user_config, changing "0" to "1"
for "set_wm_state_hack" (explained in more detail on
http://web.wt.net/~billw/gkrellm/Bugs.html).


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Re: installing Red Hat 8.0 on a system with 2 processors and 3 SCSIhard drives...

[Steve Strong]

I _think_ I know my hardware:

no RAID controller
Adaptec chip set
the configuration is invoked at POST

The BIOS sees the three SCSI at id's 0, 4 and 6.  The Red Hat installer
does not see all the drives and I don't think it sees the two cpu's
either.

Does Red Hat 8.0 Professional support multiple cpu's and multiple SCSI
hard drives not configured in RAID?
steve

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 21:01, Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:13, Steve Strong wrote:
> > I work for a school and we've been given an HP Kayak server:
> > 
> > 2 500 mhz cpu's
> > 3 9 gig SCSI hard drives
> > 
> > I can see the cpu's and hard drives in the BIOS, but the installer only
> > sees one hard drive and I think just one cpu.  The SCSI driver is loaded
> > without error messages during the install.
> > 
> > Does Red Hat 8.0 Professional support multiple cpu's and SCSI hard
> > drives?  If so, what am I doing wrong and if not, what a bummer!
> -
> Is there a raid controller on the system?  If so, it's possible that the
> raid configuration created only 1 system drive which is all that would
> be seen by software...
> 
> I would presume that all of the SCSI controllers would show themselves
> and the methods to invoke the configuration during POST - Many of these
> systems would have perhaps an Adaptec 78xxx compatible chipset embedded
> on the motherboard along with a DAC 960 Raid controller in an ISA or PCI
> slot and the hard drives would be on the Raid controller.
> 
> Always a good thing to know your hardware first...
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
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Re: Web Based Newsreader

[Brian Johnson]

The downloads are actually hosted at savanah-gnu.org (not sure if I spelt it
correctly) so you can get it there

The web site that was trashed (they are switching to a different backend I think)
was the home page for the project and hosted a lot of the docs, a running demo, etc
- it should be back up within the next week or two



Mike Vanecek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
>
>Their site musta got zapped. They are rebuilding it and only have a bare
>minimum of info up. I guess I will wait a while until it is back up. Since you
>are using it, one can assume you are satisfied with it? Wish the doco was up.
>Looks interesting.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-- Original Message ---
>From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 05:49:23 +
>Subject: Re: Web Based Newsreader
>
>> I use phpgroupware (phpgroupware.org). It is a php web based groupware app.  The
>> apps are setup as modules so you can select which ones are shown for each
>individual
>> user
>>
>> Anyway, it has a nntp reader ... you may also find the calendar, addressbook,
>> todo,notes, and email are to your liking (I don't use many of the other
>modules that
>> are available)
>>
>> Mike Vanecek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
>> >
>> >I have Open WebMail installed as a web based email reader. I would like to
>> >install something along the same lines to allow news group reading. I do not
>> >want to run a nntp, just have web access to a reader so that header
>> >information is maintained on a one machine. Hence, one could read news groups
>> >from any machine using any browser and always have the group, group headers
>> >counts, read/unread flags, and so on kept on a single machine.
>> >
>> >I searched Google, but did not find anything that seemed to meet my needs
>> >since I am not looking for a local newsreader (pan, etc.), but rather a web
>> >based reader.
>> >
>> >Anything anyone has used with RH 8?
>> >
>> >Thanks.
>--- End of Original Message ---
>
>
>
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Re: installing Red Hat 8.0 on a system with 2 processors and 3 SCSI hard drives...

[Jesse Keating]

On Friday 07 February 2003 19:13, Steve Strong uttered:
> Does Red Hat 8.0 Professional support multiple cpu's and SCSI hard
> drives?  If so, what am I doing wrong and if not, what a bummer!

Yes it does.  The installer doesn't use an SMP kernel IIRC, but does some 
checking to see if you have a SMP system.  If it doesn't get it right, you 
can always install/boot the SMP kernel manually, and it should work.

The SCSI card bios should show you how many drives you have.  If you are 
basing the "drive" count by how many drive letters show up in Windows, don't, 
as each partition of a disk gets it's own drive letter, and could cause 
confusion.  Go by what the SCSI card bios says at boot time.

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Re: disk partition

[Eric Burke]

> > >Hiya,
> > >
> > >Here is the breakdown for the general usage of partitions:
> --- End of Original Message ---
> 
> I guess one could always go with a 500MB /boot, a 1 GB sway, and whatever is
> left over goes to /.  The suggestion that separate partitions are need to
> protect from run-away programs, security, and so on may be valid. However,
> guessing the incorrect size of a partition could cause more of a problem?
> 
> Please set me straight if doing such a simple partition is really a potential
> exposure to security.
> 

I have done it as you stated myself quite a few times. You are correct
that a guess on the wrong partition size could cause issues down the
road. Those are merely linux guidelines, nothing more. The benefit of
having a separate /home partition however is huge in that if you
reinstall the system, you can format all the partitions except /home and
all your data is still intact, but you have a brand new system. For my
home system that is not being used as a server I have a 250MB /boot, a
1GB swap, a 26GB /, and a 10GB /home. Only real reason for the /home is
so that if I reformat the / or /boot, I still have all my data. Not
necessary by any means.

Regards,

Eric Burke
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Re: rhn availability

[Eric Burke]

> 
> I had the Basic service with the boxed Pro set I purchased. Where exactly
> should I have found the above features once I logged onto Rhn?  Somehow it was
> not clear to me that I had any added value. The couple of questions I posted
> to customer support during the install period did not impress me much either
> (more help here!). Would probably not mind the $60/yr donation if I understood
> better its benefits.
> 

Personally I like the subscription. My value added is access to the
ISO's quicker and the Betas. RedHat averages 2 releases a year. The cost
is $80 a year if you purchase both release (personal edition), or around
$300/year (Professional). Only real added value for the Professional is
the printed documentation *shrug*. Either way, for $60/year I get all
the errata, and can download the ISO images for any release. I save
$20/year or $240/year. That is where the added value really is IMHO.

Regards,

Eric Burke 
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Re: installing Red Hat 8.0 on a system with 2 processors and 3 SCSIhard drives...

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 21:10, Steve Strong wrote:
> I _think_ I know my hardware:
> 
>   no RAID controller
>   Adaptec chip set
>   the configuration is invoked at POST
> 
> The BIOS sees the three SCSI at id's 0, 4 and 6.  The Red Hat installer
> does not see all the drives and I don't think it sees the two cpu's
> either.
> 
> Does Red Hat 8.0 Professional support multiple cpu's and multiple SCSI
> hard drives not configured in RAID?
> steve
> 
> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 21:01, Craig White wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:13, Steve Strong wrote:
> > > I work for a school and we've been given an HP Kayak server:
> > > 
> > >   2 500 mhz cpu's
> > >   3 9 gig SCSI hard drives
> > > 
> > > I can see the cpu's and hard drives in the BIOS, but the installer only
> > > sees one hard drive and I think just one cpu.  The SCSI driver is loaded
> > > without error messages during the install.
> > > 
> > > Does Red Hat 8.0 Professional support multiple cpu's and SCSI hard
> > > drives?  If so, what am I doing wrong and if not, what a bummer!
> > -
> > Is there a raid controller on the system?  If so, it's possible that the
> > raid configuration created only 1 system drive which is all that would
> > be seen by software...
> > 
> > I would presume that all of the SCSI controllers would show themselves
> > and the methods to invoke the configuration during POST - Many of these
> > systems would have perhaps an Adaptec 78xxx compatible chipset embedded
> > on the motherboard along with a DAC 960 Raid controller in an ISA or PCI
> > slot and the hard drives would be on the Raid controller.
> > 
> > Always a good thing to know your hardware first...
---
Sounds good - you might have an adaptec controller that isn't supported
well in linux - I have had some problems with the AHA-131 or 151, I
don't recall which but they weren't supported by Win2K either.

In a general answer to a general question, yes, RH 8 does have support
for dual processor & SCSI hard drives and many different SCSI
controllers. You may need to load a driver disk for the Adaptec
controller - the next step would be to identify which Adaptec controller
it is. The motherboard identification might be helpful - there has been
a number of problems associated with the Intel 440GX motherboards.

Also - if you purchased RH 8.0 Professional, you can get 60 days of
support to help you install but I'm sure that some here can help you if
we had more details.

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Re: [Fwd: Binary only RPM ??]

[Jhon H. Caicedo O.]

Hi,

I think there is no problem building a RPM/SRPM combination
based only on a binary product. I have seen this done with
the Acrobat Reader and Netscape Communicator RPMS, these RPM
is based on the "binary tar.gz" that you download from
the vendor.

In this case, the "build" stage of the SPEC file can be
blank or replaced with some command to move the files etc.

You should study the netscape SRPM that comes with RedHat 7.x
to see the differences and the building process.

Best regards,

"Allan M. Stewart" wrote:
> 
> This is probably the wrong place to ask, hopefully someone
> can point me to the right place.
> 
>I am new to making RPMs. I've read over the "maximum RPM" guide
> and don't understand how (or if possible) to do a simple binary-only
> RPM. The guide seems to imply that you must do a build in order to
> create an RPM. Our build process is not fully developed. Some of it is
> done by hand. Also, this is proprietary software to run on our servers
> at client locations, so we don't want to include source.
> 
>   What I want to do is take the compiled binaries (and a few config/data
> files) and make a binary installation RPM. Scripting the whole build
> process in order to build an RPM seems like overkill for what I'm
> trying to do.
> 
>   Is there an easy way to just package files and tell RPM where to
> put them on install?
> 
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RH8.0 - nfsd hangs badly + 1TB SCSI partition

[Iulian Musat]

Hi everybody !

After we installed a fresh RedHat 8.0 on a 2 processor machine the NFS 
daemon hangs from time to time - really badly, since I cannot kill it 
with -9. The problem occurs every couples of days.

I cannot even reboot, because the reboot process will hang trying to 
kill the NFS daemon. The problem is that after I try to kill nfsd, the 
exported partitions are not accessible, even locally - every access just 
hangs. Also, umount will report that the partition is busy. Just to make 
it clear:
- the nfsd hangs (I cannot access the exported partition from any client)
- the partition is still accessible locally
- try (unsuccessfully) to kill nfsd
- the partition is not accessible anymore

There is no processor activity when it hangs – both processors are idle. 
Also looks like there is no disk activity.

Now, the partitions are some big (1TB) RAID disks. The RAID system is a 
separate box, accessible through a SCSI interface. So the computer will 
see just one big disk. Actually there are two of them, on different 
LUNs: 0 and 1. It worked fine before the upgrade, but because of a old 
kernel only LUN0 was accessible.

Here are the details :
processor: two Pentium III (Coppermine) at 800MHz, 256KB cache
memory: 2GB
kernel version: 2.4.18-19.8.0smp (upgraded with up2date)


I think there is no need to say that any suggestions to solve this 
problem are extremely welcome :-)

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Re: installing Red Hat 8.0 on a system with 2 processors and 3 SCSIhard drives...

[Steve Strong]

The drive count I got from the SCSI bios.  The id's listed in the SCSI
bios are 0, 4 and 6.

I'm lost in you acronyms:

SMP
IIRC

what do these mean, and how can I install and boot the SMP kernal (S...
Multiple Processor???)

I completed the install, including putting Grub on sda0 in the MBR and
upon restart, the system used another boot loader.  Does anyone know
what this might imply?
steve

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 22:04, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Friday 07 February 2003 19:13, Steve Strong uttered:
> > Does Red Hat 8.0 Professional support multiple cpu's and SCSI hard
> > drives?  If so, what am I doing wrong and if not, what a bummer!
> 
> Yes it does.  The installer doesn't use an SMP kernel IIRC, but does some 
> checking to see if you have a SMP system.  If it doesn't get it right, you 
> can always install/boot the SMP kernel manually, and it should work.
> 
> The SCSI card bios should show you how many drives you have.  If you are 
> basing the "drive" count by how many drive letters show up in Windows, don't, 
> as each partition of a disk gets it's own drive letter, and could cause 
> confusion.  Go by what the SCSI card bios says at boot time.
> 
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Re: Redhat-config-services not working anymore !!!

[Cedric Chausson]

Hi,


> [Errno 2] No file or directory of this type : '/etc/init.d/Services'
Sure about that?


Abosluetely sure. I confirm this.


Or did it say /etc/services?


No it says /etc/init.d:Services


In that case, what do you get for
"rpm -V setup"?


$ rpm -V setup
 S.5T c /etc/bashrc
.M.. c /etc/exports
S.5T c /etc/printcap
..?. c /etc/securetty

Any ideas ?



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