www.canoe.ca works for me

[Jonathan Savage]

In Phoenix browser .03

Re: Netscape Navigator 4.79?

[Paul Gear]

Hal Burgiss wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 11:03:36AM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> 
>>Can the old Netscape Navigator RPMs from RH 7.3 be used in RH 8.0?  The
>>jag-offs at my bank still refuse to support Netscape 6/7/Mozilla for
>>online banking.
> 
> 
> Have you tried fudging the user-agent? I would think anything that
> would work with NS4.x should work with Mozilla (can't see any reason
> for NS6/7 IMO). You can do this with Mozilla, or privoxy (on CD).


You're neglecting another reason to use it - speed.  On my PII 233, 64
Mb laptop, it was the only usable browser.  On my Athlon 1800, it feels
like the good old days when we first got PA-RISC-based workstations at
work.  ;-)

Matthew, NS 4.79 works fine on 8.0 for me.  Here are the packages it
requres:

enoch:[/tmp]rpm -q netscape-communicator --requires|grep ^l|xargs rpm -q
--whatprovides|sort -u
XFree86-libs-4.2.0-72
compat-glibc-6.2-2.1.3.2
compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.110
glibc-2.2.93-5

Regards,
Paul

Re: Question about icmp on my firewall.

[Paul Gear]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Where do I find the list of icmp types and what they do? I want to 
> configure my firewall but I need to know what the pros and cons are of 
> each type.

Try /usr/include/netinet/ip_icmp.h.

Or just install Shorewall and trust it.  :-)

PDG

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Jesse Keating wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 08:12:14 +1000 (EST)
> "Andrew Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> # Size of the 586 kernel on CD1 = 13428206
> # 
> # I'm sure it could have been put on CD2 ... but then ...
> 
> Don't forget about the srpm needed as well, and the i586 bigmem, or i586
> SMP, and on and on and on...
> 
> 
What SRPM??  They're all built from kernel-2.4.18-14.src.rpm.  And 586 
bigmem?  I doubt you'd find a 586 class machine that could hold enough 
memory.
 -- 
Bill in Denver

RPM mess

[Marcio Alejandro Regalado M.]

Hi there

I have some RPM packages installed in my linyx box that are not being 
recognized by the package manager (the program similar to gnoRPM) is there 
any way to fix this problem ???

i.e. I have AbiWord installed an the package manager says I do not, I try to 
un-install AbiWord and the system says I haven't AbiWord installed, I try to 
install a new version of AbiWord and the system says AbiWord is already 
there and that some RPMs conflict with other older files.

can anybody help me with this issue???

Red Hat Newbie

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Re: Flash 6 plugin now available!

[esra]

> ...Now if I could only find a beta copy of Dreamweaver MX (Studio MX
> would be even better!) for Linux. That would make my need for Windows
> (even in a VMware session) pretty much Zero!
The best thing that we all can do to encourage Macromedia to port more
apps to Linux is to file many good bug reports to them for their betas,
like this one.

We already know that we're better beta testers than the Mac crowd, but
we've got to make up for our lack of presence compared to the Windows
crowd, with numerous good reports. "Good" meaning; not yet identified,
terse description, reproducible etc.

The other thing we all can do is simply email Macromedia (Intuit and even
Microsoft) and tell them that we will pay for the Linux port when it comes
out. That's what they are worried about. What they don't realize is that
with Linux we have not been forced to become a culture of software pirates
like the platforms. Tell them that you'll pay for those big beautiful Apps
like Dreamweaver.

Cheers,
jesran

Re: RH 8.0 upgrade install hang after disc2 (DVD/CDROM kernel problem??)

[Mike Blatchley]

--- M A Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Mike Blatchley wrote:
> 
> > I was upgrading my IBM Thinkpad A21p system from
> 7.2
> > to 8.0, and after I inserted disc3, the machine
> failed
> > to mount it and refused to eject iteventually
> had
> > to reboot machine.
> 
> The most obvious cause would be a bad CD image. Did
> you check your CDs
> by booting with the "linux mediacheck" option?

I did check the CDs prior to install.  I am now
suspecting a possible problem with the install kernel.
 During my attempted restarts of the upgrade, I have
checked the CD's again, and after the installer ejects
a disc, sometimes the next disc is "not seen" when I
load it; not always the same disc.  This is the same
thing that happened with my failed install.  IDE I/O
errors were reported on one of the other consoles.  I
have not previously had CDROM/DVD problems, so I
suspect something in the new kernel.

> > I can attempt to restart upgrade, but install
> scripts
> > hang at the "Finding packages to upgrade...".  No
> hard
> > drive activity, no CDROM activity.
> 
> If the problem is the rpm database, you could try
> rebuilding it. Take a
> safety copy of the files in
> /mnt/sysimage/var/lib/rpm, and run
> rpm --rebuilddb --root /mnt/sysimage/

I can at least boot the partially upgraded machine in
single user mode, so I will try the database rebuild. 
Thanks for the suggestions.

Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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up2date problem

[Susumu Takuwa]

When I run up2date commands for first register, the program show the
following message and I could not setting up. Do you know how to solve
the problem? I did not install X.

% sudo up2date-nox
% sudo up2date --register
There was an SSL error: [('SSL routines', 'SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE', 'certif
icate verify failed')]


Susumu Takuwa

Re: RPM mess

[ABrady]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 23:29:50 -0500
"Marcio Alejandro Regalado M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> I have some RPM packages installed in my linyx box that are not being 
> recognized by the package manager (the program similar to gnoRPM) is
> there any way to fix this problem ???
> 
> i.e. I have AbiWord installed an the package manager says I do not, I
> try to un-install AbiWord and the system says I haven't AbiWord
> installed, I try to install a new version of AbiWord and the system
> says AbiWord is already there and that some RPMs conflict with other
> older files.
> 
> can anybody help me with this issue???

I'd say you either have abiword and you want it install AbiWord, vice
versa, or you have AbiSuite installed. Case makes all of the difference
in the world. "A" is not the same as "a" where linux is concerned.

Then there's another problem. One person creates the package as AbiWord.
Another decides to call it AbiSuite. They're the same thing, but RPM
doesn't see them as the same. However, when you try to install new or
update one from the other, they look like different packages because of
how they're named, and they'll show conflicts because they have the same
files.

The best thing to do is to uninstall what you have. Open a term as root
and

rpm -e AbiWord
rpm -e abiword
rpm -e AbiSuite
rpm -e abisuite

(I've not seen that last one, but I wouldn't be surprised.)

That should get rid of it no matter which one is installed.

Another way (and actually simpler) would be something like this:

bash-2.05b$ which abiword
/usr/bin/abiword
bash-2.05b$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/abiword
abiword-1.0.2-6

The first line (with 'which' in it) locates where the binary is and
displays the second line. The third line queries which rpm the file
belongs to, which produces the last line.

-- 
Conformist revolution.

Re: Converting from Shift_JIS to EUC_JP

[Nadim Bitar]

> Can you access the files using midnight commander (mc)? If so, you can
> copy the files and rename the target. Not a neat scripty way to deal
> with it, but perhaps doable.

I can rename and access the files but without the filenames i have hard
time recognizing the content. Opening each file to discover the content
would not be convenient specially that i often exchange documents and
files with people who use japanese windows.

-- 
Nadim Bitar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Compilation of avifile

[Michael Schwendt]

On 19 Oct 2002 23:29:27 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote:

> I have been trying to compile avifile (from CVS) but it always fails
> with a message similar to this:
> 
> rm -fr .libs/libdha_vid.la .libs/libdha_vid.* .libs/libdha_vid.*
> (cd . && ln -s libdha.lo libdha.lo)
> (cd . && ln -s mtrr.lo mtrr.lo)
> (cd . && ln -s pci.lo pci.lo)
> (cd . && ln -s pci_names.lo pci_names.lo)
> (cd . && ln -s mmi.lo mmi.lo)
> (cd . && ln -s ports.lo ports.lo)
> ar cru .libs/libdha_vid.al libdha.lo mtrr.lo pci.lo pci_names.lo
> mmi.lo ports.lo
> ar: libdha.lo: Too many levels of symbolic links
> make[3]: *** [libdha_vid.la] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers/libdha'
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers/libdha'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers'
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> 
> Is this purely a RH8/GCC3.2 thing? Any solutions?

I don't see where GCC3.2 is involved in your example at all.

Look at the top of your quote where the links are created.
Linking a file back to itself doesn't look like a good idea.




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Re: LogWatch 2.6

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:46:57 -0400, Jason wrote:

> I had asked about this earlier.  No one responded.  I don't get any of
> my SSH connections listed; still get stunnel and printer connects; but
> not the ssh logins.  I would love to know what I need to do to get SSH
> connections in the logwatch email again.

See whether there is a bug report about it for Psyche or the beta
versions before Psyche. Try whether increasing the logwatch logging
detail helps.

I would have responded if I had found the time to take a look at it.
But so far I haven't. Logwatch is just a bunch of Perl scripts which
examine log files using hardcoded regular expressions. For logwatch
to find anything it must always be kept up-to-date with services and
log files in order to support what content is in the log files. This
is a flaw in the design of logwatch. If anything in the logs changed
just slightly, e.g. the format of the time-stamp at the beginning of
a log-line, logwatch would fail to find anything. However, for
logwatch to filter out unwanted messages, one must extend the Perl
scripts in the right place. It would be much more convenient if one
could add/remove regular expressions to/from some config file to do
that. Sort of a logwatch preprocessor, leaving the beautification of
particular log messages to logwatch's postprocessor.

Without looking at the problem with Psyche, no further comment on
it.




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Re: Site crashes mozilla???

[Gerry Doris]

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 14:53, Chris Kloiber wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 12:25, Jesse Keating wrote:
> > On 19 Oct 2002 12:20:05 -0400
> > Gerry Doris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > # I can access other websites but not www.canoe.ca.  This seems to be
> > # something new as this was my starting page and it worked fine before
> > # the mozilla upgrade
> > # 
> > # Can someone else try this site and see if it works with the latest
> > # mozilla.
> > 
> > Works for me.  I'm using the 1.2a XFT build that was mentioned earlier
> > in the list.
> 
> You got it working? It hosed my Galeon and Evolution (probably Nautilus
> as well, but I don't use that much) and didn't even start up for me. I
> uninstalled it and went back to the errata packages.
> 
> www.canoe.ca works with the errata Galeon.
> 
> -- 
> Chris Kloiber

I rebooted my system and it now works???  I have no idea what's going
on.  I think it may be a combination of RH 8.0 and a new Radeon 9000
video card.

Gerry

Re: Cups & Lpd

[Gene C.]

On Friday 18 October 2002 18:59, Tim Waugh wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 03:31:16PM -0500, Paul Kloves wrote:
> > Yup.  Solved this problem a few minutes ago, actually.  I'm using
> > xinetd, and I found that cups-lpd was enabled.  I disabled it,
> > restarted xinetd, and now I can start lpd.
>
> I had another report like this, but cups-lpd is shipped disabled so
> I'm not sure what's going on.  Is this an upgrade, or a fresh
> installation?

If I understand this thread correctly, I believe some folks atr switching from 
the install default LPRng to CUPS (switch works fine) and then back to LPRng 
(may be some stuff missing for a clean switch).

Gene

Error in Konqueror settings (netscape plugins)

[Alessandro Polverini]

Hello all,
I recently installed the flash and java plugin on mozilla and the works
fine.

With redhat 7.3 konqueror used to check mozilla plugins and use them
without any further configuration, but in psyche that does not seems the
case.

So I checked Konqueror preferences (Settings -> Configure Konqueror) and
accessed the preference page.

Now, if I choose the icon on the left called "Netscape plugin viewer", I
get the following error:
"There was en error loading module 'nsplugin.desktop' The dignostics
is:"
And I can only press "Ok".

The content of the file .kde/share/services/nsplugin.desktop is:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Netscape plugin viewer
Type=Service
Icon=netscape
Comment=Netscape plugin viewer
X-KDE-Library=libnsplugin
InitialPreference=0
ServiceTypes=KParts/ReadOnlyPart,Browser/View

and if I do a "locate libnsplugin" I get:
/usr/lib/libnsplugin.so.1.0.1
/usr/lib/libnsplugin.la
/usr/lib/libnsplugin.so
/usr/lib/libnsplugin.so.1

So it seems everithing is in place.

Do any1 have the same problem and can help me solving that?

Thanks,
Alex

Re: Cups & Lpd

[Quentin Wright]

Gene C. wrote:


On Friday 18 October 2002 18:59, Tim Waugh wrote:
 

On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 03:31:16PM -0500, Paul Kloves wrote:
   

Yup.  Solved this problem a few minutes ago, actually.  I'm using
xinetd, and I found that cups-lpd was enabled.  I disabled it,
restarted xinetd, and now I can start lpd.
 

I had another report like this, but cups-lpd is shipped disabled so
I'm not sure what's going on.  Is this an upgrade, or a fresh
installation?
   


If I understand this thread correctly, I believe some folks atr switching from 
the install default LPRng to CUPS (switch works fine) and then back to LPRng 
(may be some stuff missing for a clean switch).

Gene
 

It is not enough to use the switch, see the Customization Guide Ch 26:
If you selected CUPS, you must make sure the lpd service is stopped and 
the cups service is started:
/sbin/service lpd stop
/sbin/service cups start
If you selected LPRng, you must make sure the cups service is stopped 
and the lpd service is started
Also use chkconfig, ntsysv, or Services Configuration Tool to configure 
your sytsem to start the cups service automatically and disable the lpd 
service.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On 19 Oct 2002, Jean Francois Martinez wrote:

>I cannot say I am happy about that.
>
>The Cyrix 686 (who reached 200 Megahertz in P-rating) is certainly more
>powerful than a P75.  But it will NOT work with a kernel compiled for
>Pentium.

You must be as high as me, in order to ride Psyche
^ Pentium
|
|
|  ^Cyrix 6x86
|  |
|  |
|  |
--


>The AMD K6 will work with a Pentium kernel but there are fair chances
>for it being slower with a Pentium kernel than with a 386 one (it will
>be slower on the C parts).

Compile your own (unsupported) kernel then.  We haven't supported 
Anything lower than Pentium for over a year and a half.  Anything 
lower than Pentium that worked, worked by coincidence, and not 
because it was officially supported.

Time to upgrade your hardware, stay at an older release of the 
distro, recompile your own kernel, or possibly even switch to a 
distro that offers support out of the box for ancient hardware.

And yes, I have several boxes which are less than the lowest 
system requirements.  It's trivial to make the distro run on 
unsupported hardware, it just takes a bit of ingenuity.  And 
it is unsupported.  But I don't mind.   ;o)

-- 
Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Tom Coady]

From: "Hal Burgiss"
> Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
>
> // TrueType ///

Thanks Hal - I did not think of that. I made the changes you suggested and
restarted mozilla but I am afraid I cannot see any difference. I have not
yet succeeded in moving ttfs into RH8 since samba is not working fully, but
I assume there are ttfs included in the basic distro?

ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8 conversion

[Karsten Weiss]

Hi!

I would like to know how you are currently handling the
conversion of you systems to UTF-8. Please share your
experience!

* Is there a program similar which can determine the
  character set of a given text file? I know there is iconv
  to convert character sets of text files. But I still
  don't know a program which tells me if a given file is
  encoded in ISO-8859-1, ISO-8869-15, a Windows code page,
  etc.

* Which program are you using to convert you're ISO-8859-1
  file systems (directory- and filenames - not the file
  contents!) to UTF-8? Even better would be a program which
  can convert from any encoding to UTF-8 (using a heuristic)
  because my source filenames unfortunately have mixed
  encodings: Most are ISO-8859-1 but some use various Windows
  code pages).

  I've written a small perl hack to do this but I'm not
  very happy with it as it is because it doesn't have the
  mentioned heuristic.
  
  The gtk file selector has *lots* of trouble with some of my
  ISO-8859-1 filenames and becomes unusable. My current
  workaround is to start the respective program in a LANG=C
  environment).

* I'm not sure how I am supposed to handle all my text files.
  All of them are using ISO-8859-1 right now. But now that
  I'm using Red Hat 8 I'm never sure if the text editor
  saves them in ISO-8859-1 or UTF-8. Did you convert all
  your files to UTF-8 or are you using both character
  encodings?

* What about other non-UTF-8-aware machines accessing my
  files? File "formats" without a text encoding tag are
  becoming really problematic now, aren't they?

* Some days ago Chris Kloiber mentioned the
unicode_stop ; setfont lat0-sun16
  as a way to turn off unicode support in the console. I
  still have problems with all umlaut keys because they
  still generate two-byte codes (even if LANG is set to
  de_DE.ISO-8859-1). Does it work for you?

* How to convert ID3 tags?

bye,
Karsten

PS: The non-working umlauts in pine with a WONTFIX bug status
  is a major problem for me.

-- 
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Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Tom Coady]

This is what my screen looks like:

http://www.aovt15.dsl.pipex.com/snapshot1.png

Is that as good as it gets?

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Andrew Smith]

> On 19 Oct 2002, Jean Francois Martinez wrote:
> 
>>I cannot say I am happy about that.
>>
>>The Cyrix 686 (who reached 200 Megahertz in P-rating) is certainly more
>>powerful than a P75.  But it will NOT work with a kernel compiled for
>>Pentium.
> 
> You must be as high as me, in order to ride Psyche
> ^ Pentium
> |
> |
> |  ^Cyrix 6x86
> |  |
> |  |
> |  |
> --
> 
> 
>>The AMD K6 will work with a Pentium kernel but there are fair chances
>>for it being slower with a Pentium kernel than with a 386 one (it will
>>be slower on the C parts).
> 
> Compile your own (unsupported) kernel then.  We haven't supported 
> Anything lower than Pentium for over a year and a half.  Anything 
> lower than Pentium that worked, worked by coincidence, and not 
> because it was officially supported.
> 
> Time to upgrade your hardware, stay at an older release of the 
> distro, recompile your own kernel, or possibly even switch to a 
> distro that offers support out of the box for ancient hardware.
> 
> And yes, I have several boxes which are less than the lowest 
> system requirements.  It's trivial to make the distro run on 
> unsupported hardware, it just takes a bit of ingenuity.  And 
> it is unsupported.  But I don't mind.   ;o)
> 
> -- 
> Mike A. Harrisftp://people.redhat.com/mharris

Well - having thought about it a bit more ...

Removing one 12Mb RPM is quite rediculous when almost EVERY other
intel RPM is built for an i386. Even glibc has an i386 version.
If you say that you no longer support i386 - then build all the
RPM's to i586 and be done with it. If every RPM was at least i586
then all intel machines would run a ilttle bit faster.
The argument has been stated before that the majority of performance
gain is in using the kernel and glibc that matches your processor -
and that all the rest is more effort than worth the gain.
However, if they all were already i586 then the effort would be zero
to anyone installing to have all to be at least i586

Secondly, there is no such thing as a height measurement that puts
the lowest pentium above the highest Cyrix 6x86.

I can think of a lot of reasons why the i386 kernel was not there -
but maybe one would be that general RedHat support for older hardware
is not as good as MS (RedHat seems to sometimes drop support for old
hardware that was supported in the previous release)
Yet - RedHat's only true market is support (as stated on the web page
about trademarks) - interesting :-)

-- 
-Cheers
-Andrew

MS ... if only he hadn't been hang gliding!

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Justin Zygmont]

they don;t have the kind of resources that MS has either though..


On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Andrew Smith wrote:

> > On 19 Oct 2002, Jean Francois Martinez wrote:
> > 
> >>I cannot say I am happy about that.
> >>
> >>The Cyrix 686 (who reached 200 Megahertz in P-rating) is certainly more
> >>powerful than a P75.  But it will NOT work with a kernel compiled for
> >>Pentium.
> > 
> > You must be as high as me, in order to ride Psyche
> > ^ Pentium
> > |
> > |
> > |  ^Cyrix 6x86
> > |  |
> > |  |
> > |  |
> > --
> > 
> > 
> >>The AMD K6 will work with a Pentium kernel but there are fair chances
> >>for it being slower with a Pentium kernel than with a 386 one (it will
> >>be slower on the C parts).
> > 
> > Compile your own (unsupported) kernel then.  We haven't supported 
> > Anything lower than Pentium for over a year and a half.  Anything 
> > lower than Pentium that worked, worked by coincidence, and not 
> > because it was officially supported.
> > 
> > Time to upgrade your hardware, stay at an older release of the 
> > distro, recompile your own kernel, or possibly even switch to a 
> > distro that offers support out of the box for ancient hardware.
> > 
> > And yes, I have several boxes which are less than the lowest 
> > system requirements.  It's trivial to make the distro run on 
> > unsupported hardware, it just takes a bit of ingenuity.  And 
> > it is unsupported.  But I don't mind.   ;o)
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mike A. Harris  ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
> 
> Well - having thought about it a bit more ...
> 
> Removing one 12Mb RPM is quite rediculous when almost EVERY other
> intel RPM is built for an i386. Even glibc has an i386 version.
> If you say that you no longer support i386 - then build all the
> RPM's to i586 and be done with it. If every RPM was at least i586
> then all intel machines would run a ilttle bit faster.
> The argument has been stated before that the majority of performance
> gain is in using the kernel and glibc that matches your processor -
> and that all the rest is more effort than worth the gain.
> However, if they all were already i586 then the effort would be zero
> to anyone installing to have all to be at least i586
> 
> Secondly, there is no such thing as a height measurement that puts
> the lowest pentium above the highest Cyrix 6x86.
> 
> I can think of a lot of reasons why the i386 kernel was not there -
> but maybe one would be that general RedHat support for older hardware
> is not as good as MS (RedHat seems to sometimes drop support for old
> hardware that was supported in the previous release)
> Yet - RedHat's only true market is support (as stated on the web page
> about trademarks) - interesting :-)
> 
> 

Re: up2date

[Scott Foley]

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 23:32, Chris Kloiber wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 23:09, Rik Thomas wrote:
> > Do what the error message says, run rhn_register.  open up a shell,
> > su - to root and then run rhn_register.
> 
> The error message is in error (go figure). rhn_register is no more. Use
> 'up2date --register' instead.
> 

  That did it, thanks guys.

-Scott

> -- 
> Chris Kloiber
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Psyche-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

Re: Maestro3 on Dell Latitude CPxJ - not solved

[Bernd Kunze]

Well, I did the reinstall from scratch, maestro3 works great under
the stock kernel, however after applying the updated kernel, I get those
error messages and gnome becomes unresponsive when sound events are
turned on.

FWIW...

Bernd
On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 16:33, Keith Winston wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 09:56, Bernd Kunze wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I do have a Dell Latitude with Maestro 3 sound card, that's what lspci
> > tells me. sndconfig recognizes it but hangs when playing the test sound.
> > Also a cat /dev/dsp results in "chip lockup" messages. No sound.
> > 
> > Worked perfectly under 7.3 which was upgraded to 8.0.
> 
> I am running 8.0 on a Dell Inspiron (I think Latitude and Inspiron have
> different OEMs), with a Maestro3 and it was detected and set up by the
> install without problems.  Maybe your problem is related to the upgrade
> instead of a clean install.  I've always had better luck doing clean
> installs, then restoring my data.
> 
> In any case, I think sndconfig is designed for ISA sound cards, not PCI
> sound cards.  Try redhat-config-soundcard.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Keith
> -- 
> LPIC-2, MCSE, N+
> Life's the same, except for my shoes
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[Kent Nyberg]

lör 2002-10-19 klockan 20.16 skrev Jesse Keating:
> On 19 Oct 2002 20:08:24 +0200
> Kent Nyberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> # I want my linuxbox that connects to the internet with pppd to be able
> # to share the connection with my other computer running windows xp.
> # I think i can manage to use masq and that stuff to share the
> # connection when it is upp and running but i want to make it so that
> # the other computer can "tell" my linuxbox to connect (and disconnect).
> # Can some one post some information about where to read more about
> # this? I have never done this before and have no clue about what to do.
> 
> I've heard you can do this with "dial-on-demand" scripts.  I've never
> done it though.
> 

Well, i know i can make my system dial on demand. I have looked a little
bit in wvdial documentation but did not find much about dial on demand
but i know it should work. But i realy want the window-machine not to
make my Linuxbox dial on to internet every time it lookes up something
on the internet. I want it to pop ups some kind of "Do you realy want to
dial to the internet?" and some way to disconnect the connection from
the windows-machine. My ISP is very expensive and i do not have
broadband. :(

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Petr Soucek]

On 20 Oct 2002, at 21:48, Andrew Smith wrote:

> Well - having thought about it a bit more ...
> 
> Removing one 12Mb RPM is quite rediculous when almost EVERY other
> intel RPM is built for an i386. Even glibc has an i386 version.
> If you say that you no longer support i386 - then build all the
> RPM's to i586 and be done with it. If every RPM was at least i586
> then all intel machines would run a ilttle bit faster.
> The argument has been stated before that the majority of performance
> gain is in using the kernel and glibc that matches your processor -
> and that all the rest is more effort than worth the gain.
> However, if they all were already i586 then the effort would be zero
> to anyone installing to have all to be at least i586
> 

Yes, I have the same opinion. And surprisingly, there *is* new i386 
kernel for Red Hat Linux:
ftp://updates.redhat.com/8.0/en/os/i386/kernel-2.4.18-17.8.0.i386.rpm

Unfortunately there is no i386 kernel on the installation disks.

We have several boxes with 133 MHz AMD 5x86 (DX5-133) and they are 
running faster than Pentium-60 boxes, and for simple tasks, (e.g. 
syslog server) there is no reason to upgrade the hardware - if it is 
reliable.

But there is a reason to upgrade the Red Hat distribution - at 
present, we have Red Hat Linux 6.2 on all boxes, and according to Red 
Hat policy to support just the current major version (8 at present) 
and the latest member of previous major version (7.3), the support of 
Red Hat 6.2 shall be terminated.

It is also good idea, I think, to have the same distribution on all 
boxes.

And now - is anybody able to recommend me how to install Red Hat 
Linux 8.0 on i486 boxes?

Best Regards,


Petr Soucek
Ryston Electronics s.r.o.
Modranska 621/72
CZ-143 00 Praha 4, Czech Republic
tel +420 22527fax +420 225272211 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.ryston.cz

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Justin Zygmont]

> 
> And now - is anybody able to recommend me how to install Red Hat 
> Linux 8.0 on i486 boxes?
> 
> Best Regards,

try to install it on a newer computer andthen upgrade the kernel to the 
i386 one, then pop the drive in the 486.  You'll have to play around to 
tweak it a bit but you should be able to find a way, and then have 8.0 on 
everything.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Arjan van de Ven]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 13:48, Andrew Smith wrote:

> RPM's to i586 and be done with it. If every RPM was at least i586
> then all intel machines would run a ilttle bit faster.

WRONG.

i586 rpms make all machines except the original Pentium I and Pentium
MMX slower. The first step that improves performance is i686 but that
would rule out K6 and Via C3 cpu's

Greetings,
   Arjan van de Ven




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Re: Dell 2300 with megaraid (perc sc/2)

[Keith Winston]

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 23:14, Keith Morse wrote:
> I like your first name.

Yes, it is an advantage we share ;)

> I'm using psyche and the installer identifies the controller (seemingly) 
> properly.  The "alt-f3" screen tells me that /tmp/megaraid.o tried to 
> load, but failed whilst complaining about incorrect module parameters IO 
> or IRQ.  I have tried insmod manually but there is no error message issued 
> and a check with lsmod confirms this.  This pc is a loaner that I have no 
> experience with.  It looks as though someone loaded a beta version of .NET 
> on it successfully and therefore I'm reasonably sure that the hardware is 
> okay.  I'm planning on nuke'ing the MS-Windows installation.

There is some key combination (Alt-F10 or something) that should let you
bring up the BIOS on the megaraid controller when it boots, then you
should be able to look at the current settings and adjust them if
necessary.

Best Regards,
Keith
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Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On 19 Oct 2002, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

>> I know i386 isn't supported, hence the existence of the RULE project. It 
>> isn't going to be any easier to build the RULE installers without an 
>> existing official i386 kernel, since the goal has always been to use the 
>> official Red Hat CDs for the install.
>> 
>> Back to the drawing board... again. ;)
>
>The i386 kernel is not there for space reasons (it's pretty hard to
>justify 10Mb cd space for an 80386 kernel when that means 10Mb of other
>packages need to be removed from the distro, and that for machines that
>are below the minimum requirements for a few releases already)
>Anyway for the erratum I turned on the i386 build again since there's no
>space issue there

I just hope nobody uses the i386 kernel, and expects DRI to work.  

;o)


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OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Michael Fratoni]

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On Sunday 20 October 2002 07:31 am, Tom Coady wrote:
> From: "Hal Burgiss"
>
> > Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
> >
> > // TrueType ///
>
> Thanks Hal - I did not think of that. I made the changes you suggested
> and restarted mozilla but I am afraid I cannot see any difference. I
> have not yet succeeded in moving ttfs into RH8 since samba is not
> working fully, but I assume there are ttfs included in the basic
> distro?

You can install MS "core fonts for the web" via rpm.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/font-tool/
Install both the cabextract and xf86-corefonts packages, then execute 
/usr/X11R6/bin/core_font_install.sh

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Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On 19 Oct 2002, Mark C wrote:

>Date: 19 Oct 2002 14:04:27 +0100
>From: Mark C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: psyche-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) 
>Subject: Re: i386 kernel not included?
>
>On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 10:48, Mike A. Harris wrote:
>
>> The minimum system requirements for Red Hat Linux 8.0 are an 
>> Intel Pentium or equivalent clone.
>
>So what would a Intel P100 fall under?
>(this is an Intel Pentium class cpu)

That's a rather rhetorical question.  You're saying basically:

"Ok, you say Intel Pentium is required.  I have an Intel Pentium, 
is that supported?"

I answered before you asked.


>As I'm looking to build a small firewall on a P100 with 256 MB ram

It should work just fine for that.


-- 
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OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

internetconnection with pptp - possible ?

[hans privat]

hi,
does anyone of this list know, if there is the pptp-protocol available
for rh8.0 ?
I cannot get a connection to my provider without this protocol.
right now I am using mdk8.2, because pptp is available there.

any ideas or experiences with it ?
bye hans

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On 19 Oct 2002, Mark C wrote:

>Date: 19 Oct 2002 17:32:01 +0100
>From: Mark C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: psyche-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) 
>Subject: Re: i386 kernel not included?
>
>On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 14:07, Paul Gear wrote:
>
>> > So what would a Intel P100 fall under?
>> > (this is an Intel Pentium class cpu)
>> 
>> Haven't you just answered your own question?
>
>yes and no :-)
>
>Some people wouldn't class this as an i686 category, and some would, 
>hence the question :-)

Well, whoever would classify any Intel Pentium as i686, would be 
totally incorrect.

i586 == Pentium
i686 == Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium IV

A machine capable of running an i586 compiled kernel is what is 
required, as we ship only i586 and higher kernels now.



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OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Michael Fratoni]

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On Sunday 20 October 2002 09:09 am, Petr Soucek wrote:

> Yes, I have the same opinion. And surprisingly, there *is* new i386
> kernel for Red Hat Linux:
> ftp://updates.redhat.com/8.0/en/os/i386/kernel-2.4.18-17.8.0.i386.rpm
>
> Unfortunately there is no i386 kernel on the installation disks.

[snip]

> And now - is anybody able to recommend me how to install Red Hat
> Linux 8.0 on i486 boxes?

The RULE projects 'slinky' installer should work for these machines. It's 
a script that installs a very basic set of packages, but should get the 
machine up and running. Due to the missing i386 kernel, it is currently 
installing the kernel-BOOT package. Once the install completes, you can 
upgrade to the new i386 kernel package. (with a little work, you can do 
this during the install as well.)

http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/rule/slinky/slinky-v0.3.1/

The script installs base packages by default, and allows you to choose 
several other package groups. Currently, only the network subgroup has 
been tested. The others, due to changes in the 8.0 release, are likely to 
have unsatisfied dependencies. (which can be resolved manually.) All the 
package groups should be tested and updated over the next few days.

There is a mailing list for the project at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you decide to go this route, we would appreciate install reports and 
feedback.

Hope that helps,
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Re: new kernel-2.4.18-17.8.0 RPM damages lilo.conf file

[Tom Diehl]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Mike Chambers wrote:
> 
> > Yes it WAS a bug.  It is *suppose* to update lilo or grub when installing OR
> > upgrading the kernel.  Using up2date just does it auto for you, but it
> > should still do the same thing as it's still using rpm to install it.

Just courious, did anyone put this in bugzilla?? I agree it seems broken
but since I no longer use lilo.

-- 
.Tom"Nothing would please me more than being able to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] hire ten programmers and deluge the hobby market 
with good software." -- Bill Gates 1976

We are still waiting 

Re: up2date problem

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:08:40 +0900, Susumu Takuwa wrote:

> When I run up2date commands for first register, the program show the
> following message and I could not setting up. Do you know how to solve
> the problem? I did not install X.
> 
> % sudo up2date-nox
> % sudo up2date --register
> There was an SSL error: [('SSL routines',
> 'SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE', 'certif icate verify failed')]

Shot into the dark: are you behind a firewall?



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Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Petr Soucek]

On 20 Oct 2002, at 15:56, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> i586 rpms make all machines except the original Pentium I and Pentium
> MMX slower. The first step that improves performance is i686 but that
> would rule out K6 and Via C3 cpu's

I'm not sure now - for K6-2 is better i586 or i386 rpm?

Regards,


Petr Soucek
Ryston Electronics s.r.o.
Modranska 621/72
CZ-143 00 Praha 4, Czech Republic
tel +420 22527fax +420 225272211 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.ryston.cz

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Andrew Smith wrote:

>Well - having thought about it a bit more ...
>
>Removing one 12Mb RPM is quite rediculous when almost EVERY other
>intel RPM is built for an i386. Even glibc has an i386 version.
>If you say that you no longer support i386 - then build all the
>RPM's to i586 and be done with it. If every RPM was at least i586
>then all intel machines would run a ilttle bit faster.

Actually, you're wrong.  The architecture field present in the 
RPM filename, and header indicates the "instruction set" in use 
by the binaries inside the package.  It means that you need a 
machine capable of that instruction set, or higher in order to 
install and use the package.

When an RPM package is built with the "--target i686" or whatever 
option, this translates into the compiler flag "-march=i686" 
which selects the Intel i686 instruction set.  Likewise a target 
of i586 would tell the compiler to use the i586 instruction set 
by passing "-march=i586".

Choosing a target of i686 means the binaries will not run on any 
CPU that is not a i686 class machine.  Examples of machines that 
do not have the full i686 instruction set:  Pentium, Cyrix (all 
of them AFAIK except perhaps the latest CPU from them), AMD K5, 
K6.  Using a target of i686 would cut support for all of this 
hardware, as well as some other CPUs.  We support Pentium, K5, K6 
class CPU's still however, so building the whole distribution 
with -march=i686 is not viable in any way shape or form at this 
point in time.

Also, -march=i686 isn't an "all gain" for every single 
application.  One of the biggest gains comes from the CMOV 
instruction, however most applications do not really benefit 
directly from CMOV, but rather benefit from CMOV being used in 
the C libraries.  Since we ship glibc in an i686 compiled form, 
most applications on the whole distribution that could benefit 
from CMOV, already do, as they're using the i686 optimized glibc 
at runtime if you have an i686 or higher.  With the i686 built 
glibc, most of the benefits from using -march=i686 are gained 
simply by using glibc.

-march=i586 on the other hand is in a different boat.  Choosing 
this is supposed to enable the i586 instruction set, however the 
i586 has relatively few new instructions and most of them are 
pretty worthless for generic code.  I've been told by gcc 
developers that gcc does not use any i586 specific instructions 
when -march=i586 is chosen.  As such, for all intents and 
purposes, -march=i586 is more or less identical to -march=i386 
for everything.  That is why there is no i586 built glibc in the 
distribution, and no i586 built applications.  There's no benefit 
to doing so.

The only thing using -march=i586 does in reality, is enable a 
handful of C macros.  If a given application has hand coded 
assembly language, optimized for i586, and wrapped up in an ifdef 
block, in this case -march=i586 could enable this code, and the 
app would run faster.  However few apps use assembler at all 
period, and those that do, tend to include code for all processor 
variants, and do runtime CPU detection rather than build time 
detection.

In other words, what the documentation says these options do, and 
what the gcc code has actually implemented in reality are quite 
different from what most people think is there.

The kernel is a special case here, as the kernel has all kinds of 
per CPU arch build time optimizations, which is why we have an 
i586 kernel.  It's quite special.

Virtually zero applications thus benefit from changing
-march=i386 to -march=i586.  You can test this out, by running a 
profiler on an application built with -march=i386, and then again 
with the same app doing the same thing built with -march=i586.

There's one other thing -march=i586 does that can be beneficial.  
Some apps forget to "#include " everywhere that it should 
be properly included.  Code which doesn't include math.h properly 
will build differently with -march=i386 and -march=i586.  The 
solution here however isn't to use -march=i586, but rather to fix 
the dumb code to properly include the required header files.

Any applications which are I/O bound, such as disk intensive or 
network intensive apps, generally do not benefit from any type of 
performance optimization via instructions available in newer 
CPU's.  There are likely some exceptions, but the exceptions wont 
make the rule.

There are probably a small handful of applications and/or 
libraries in the distro which could benefit from -march=i686.  
One would have to do specific profiling of any potential app or 
library to see if it truely does benefit from it.  Most people's 
"I can just tell it is better" doesn't cut it really.  Scientific 
measurement is required for this sort of thing.  There are likely 
various things that would benefit.  Purely guessing, if someone 
wanted to try, I'd try rebuilding XFree86, gnome, kde, possibly 
mozilla, and maybe some other large apps/libs.  I would only do

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Petr Soucek wrote:

>But there is a reason to upgrade the Red Hat distribution - at 
>present, we have Red Hat Linux 6.2 on all boxes, and according to Red 
>Hat policy to support just the current major version (8 at present) 
>and the latest member of previous major version (7.3), the support of 
>Red Hat 6.2 shall be terminated.

Where did you find this policy?  I'd be interested in having a
look at our publically posted policy if we've got one posted
somewhere.  Do you have a URL handy?



-- 
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OS Systems Engineer
XFree86 maintainer
Red Hat Inc.

Re: cdrecord obsolete

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, P wrote:

>Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:00:33 -0400
>From: P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Content-Type: text/plain;
>  charset="us-ascii"
>List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) 
>Subject: cdrecord obsolete
>
>I have a usb cdrw .. it won't work under cdrecord-1.10, but works fine 
>under any cdrecord-1.11 version.  Is there a more up to date version 
>that's compatible with psyche available?

cdrecord 1.11 is alpha code, and not a stable official release.  

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Re: Compilation of avifile

[Mike A. Harris]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Michael Schwendt wrote:

>> (cd . && ln -s mmi.lo mmi.lo)
>> (cd . && ln -s ports.lo ports.lo)
>> ar cru .libs/libdha_vid.al libdha.lo mtrr.lo pci.lo pci_names.lo
>> mmi.lo ports.lo
>> ar: libdha.lo: Too many levels of symbolic links
>> make[3]: *** [libdha_vid.la] Error 1
>> make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers/libdha'
>> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers/libdha'
>> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers'
>> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>> 
>> Is this purely a RH8/GCC3.2 thing? Any solutions?
>
>I don't see where GCC3.2 is involved in your example at all.

Indeed..  ;o)

>Look at the top of your quote where the links are created.
>Linking a file back to itself doesn't look like a good idea.

Nonetheless, it is always somewhat amusing to see people who 
can't get something to work just blame it on the compiler, or on 
Red Hat instead.  ;o)

I get to see this about 50 times a day.  Quite often, the 
solution to their problem is in the last 20 lines of error log 
output.  ;o)



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Red Hat Inc.

Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[dTd]

On 20 Oct 2002 15:02:01 +0200
Kent Nyberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> lör 2002-10-19 klockan 20.16 skrev Jesse Keating:
> > On 19 Oct 2002 20:08:24 +0200
> > Kent Nyberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > # I want my linuxbox that connects to the internet with pppd to be able
> > # to share the connection with my other computer running windows xp.
> > # I think i can manage to use masq and that stuff to share the
> > # connection when it is upp and running but i want to make it so that
> > # the other computer can "tell" my linuxbox to connect (and disconnect).
> > # Can some one post some information about where to read more about
> > # this? I have never done this before and have no clue about what to do.
> > 
> > I've heard you can do this with "dial-on-demand" scripts.  I've never
> > done it though.
> > 
> 
> Well, i know i can make my system dial on demand. I have looked a little
> bit in wvdial documentation but did not find much about dial on demand
> but i know it should work. But i realy want the window-machine not to
> make my Linuxbox dial on to internet every time it lookes up something
> on the internet. I want it to pop ups some kind of "Do you realy want to
> dial to the internet?" and some way to disconnect the connection from
> the windows-machine. My ISP is very expensive and i do not have
> broadband. :(
> 
I saw a package on freshmeat designed to do just this, I have forgotten it's
name, but a quick search for "demand dial" should get you some results. As a
side note, you can set an idle option to pppd that will drop the connection
after a certain amount of time. Not ver helpfull but hey it's a start.  :)

-- 
/dTd
Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall

Re: Compilation of avifile

[dTd]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 08:50:40 +0200
Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 19 Oct 2002 23:29:27 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> 
> > I have been trying to compile avifile (from CVS) but it always fails
> > with a message similar to this:
> > 
> > rm -fr .libs/libdha_vid.la .libs/libdha_vid.* .libs/libdha_vid.*
> > (cd . && ln -s libdha.lo libdha.lo)
> > (cd . && ln -s mtrr.lo mtrr.lo)
> > (cd . && ln -s pci.lo pci.lo)
> > (cd . && ln -s pci_names.lo pci_names.lo)
> > (cd . && ln -s mmi.lo mmi.lo)
> > (cd . && ln -s ports.lo ports.lo)
> > ar cru .libs/libdha_vid.al libdha.lo mtrr.lo pci.lo pci_names.lo
> > mmi.lo ports.lo
> > ar: libdha.lo: Too many levels of symbolic links
> > make[3]: *** [libdha_vid.la] Error 1
> > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers/libdha'
> > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers/libdha'
> > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers'
> > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > 
> > Is this purely a RH8/GCC3.2 thing? Any solutions?
> 
> I don't see where GCC3.2 is involved in your example at all.
> 
> Look at the top of your quote where the links are created.
> Linking a file back to itself doesn't look like a good idea.
> 
> 

Didn't I read there was problems with the CVS for avifile on their website
recently and not to use it yet?

-- 
/dTd
Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Petr Soucek]

On 20 Oct 2002, at 11:07, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> Where did you find this policy?  I'd be interested in having a
> look at our publically posted policy if we've got one posted
> somewhere.  Do you have a URL handy?

here it is:

http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/

states that:

> Important: Red Hat's errata release policy supports the two most
> recent major product releases. All minor releases in the current
> product release cycle are supported as is the final release of the
> prior product release cycle.


Petr Soucek
Ryston Electronics s.r.o.
Modranska 621/72
CZ-143 00 Praha 4, Czech Republic
tel +420 22527fax +420 225272211 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.ryston.cz

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Arjan van de Ven]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 16:40, Petr Soucek wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2002, at 15:56, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 
> > i586 rpms make all machines except the original Pentium I and Pentium
> > MMX slower. The first step that improves performance is i686 but that
> > would rule out K6 and Via C3 cpu's
> 
> I'm not sure now - for K6-2 is better i586 or i386 rpm?

K6-2's run better with i386 compiler options. That's why we'll probably
switch to that for the i586 kernel.
(Note: i586 kernel not just means compiler flags, it also uses the fact
that certain 80386 cpu bugs aren't present and can use some 80486+
instructions)





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Re: i386 kernel not included?

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On Sunday 20 October 2002 10:18 am, Mike A. Harris wrote:

> >The i386 kernel is not there for space reasons (it's pretty hard to
> >justify 10Mb cd space for an 80386 kernel when that means 10Mb of
> > other packages need to be removed from the distro, and that for
> > machines that are below the minimum requirements for a few releases
> > already) Anyway for the erratum I turned on the i386 build again
> > since there's no space issue there
>
> I just hope nobody uses the i386 kernel, and expects DRI to work.

Hey! That was the argument I used for the 7.3 release while arguing to 
_include_ an i586 kernel package. ;) 
Users with i586 machines were forced to use the i386 kernel, only to find 
out that DRI wasn't included.

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Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Erwin J. Prinz]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Re: cdrecord obsolete

[John Weber]

Checkout http://xcdroast.sourceforge.net/RPMS/a10/redhat-8.0/ . I
haven't tried these for usb or RH8.0 (I'm still on RH7.1), but it's the
rpms for the version you want. Maybe it'll work for you.

John

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 09:08, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, P wrote:
> 
> >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:00:33 -0400
> >From: P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> >  charset="us-ascii"
> >List-Id: Discussion of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche) 
> >Subject: cdrecord obsolete
> >
> >I have a usb cdrw .. it won't work under cdrecord-1.10, but works fine 
> >under any cdrecord-1.11 version.  Is there a more up to date version 
> >that's compatible with psyche available?
> 
> cdrecord 1.11 is alpha code, and not a stable official release.  
> 
> -- 
> Mike A. Harrisftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
> OS Systems Engineer
> XFree86 maintainer
> Red Hat Inc.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Psyche-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.users.qwest.net/~weberjohns

Re: LogWatch 2.6

[Manfred Hollstein]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 09:14, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:46:57 -0400, Jason wrote:
> 
> > I had asked about this earlier.  No one responded.  I don't get any of
> > my SSH connections listed; still get stunnel and printer connects; but
> > not the ssh logins.  I would love to know what I need to do to get SSH
> > connections in the logwatch email again.
> 
> See whether there is a bug report about it for Psyche or the beta
> versions before Psyche. Try whether increasing the logwatch logging
> detail helps.

There is one at

  

logwatch-4.0.3-2 from rawhide fixed it for me; I only had to apply the
attached patch, as logwatch/perl aren't UTF-8 ready yet.

HTH, cheers.

l8er
manfred


--- ./etc/log.d/scripts/logwatch.pl.orig2002-10-16 20:15:09.0 +0200
+++ ./etc/log.d/scripts/logwatch.pl 2002-10-19 10:44:15.0 +0200
@@ -30,6 +30,7 @@ my (@AllShared, @AllLogFiles, @FileList)
 my (@ReadConfigNames, @ReadConfigValues);
 
 # Default config here...
+$ENV{'LANG'} = "en_US.iso885915";
 $Config{'detail'} = 0;
 $Config{'logdir'} = "/var/log";
 $Config{'mailto'} = "root";

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Tom Coady]

From: "Michael Fratoni"
> You can install MS "core fonts for the web" via rpm.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/font-tool/
> Install both the cabextract and xf86-corefonts packages,

Oh my god, thank you thank you. Finally I have beauty in both mozilla and
the rest of RH8 :)

> then execute
> /usr/X11R6/bin/core_font_install.sh

Funnily enough I omitted this step - just restarted mozilla.

If you are interested to see what happened,

This is what my screen looks like before:

http://www.aovt15.dsl.pipex.com/snapshot1.png

after:

http://www.aovt15.dsl.pipex.com/snapshot2.png

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Hal Burgiss]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 12:31:21PM +0100, Tom Coady wrote:
> From: "Hal Burgiss"
> > Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
> >
> > // TrueType ///
> 
> Thanks Hal - I did not think of that. I made the changes you suggested and
> restarted mozilla but I am afraid I cannot see any difference. I have not
> yet succeeded in moving ttfs into RH8 since samba is not working fully, but
> I assume there are ttfs included in the basic distro?

There may be, but they aren't the ones you really want. Get Michael's
font package with MS TT fonts. Then you still need to select
Edit > Preferences > Appearance > Fonts and select the upper case ones for
your default sans-serif, etc. 

-- 
Hal Burgiss
 

Re: Netscape Navigator 4.79?

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Paul Gear wrote:

> Hal Burgiss wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 11:03:36AM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> >
> >>Can the old Netscape Navigator RPMs from RH 7.3 be used in RH 8.0?  The
> >>jag-offs at my bank still refuse to support Netscape 6/7/Mozilla for
> >>online banking.
> >
> >
> > Have you tried fudging the user-agent? I would think anything that
> > would work with NS4.x should work with Mozilla (can't see any reason
> > for NS6/7 IMO). You can do this with Mozilla, or privoxy (on CD).
>
>
> You're neglecting another reason to use it - speed.  On my PII 233, 64
> Mb laptop, it was the only usable browser.  On my Athlon 1800, it feels
> like the good old days when we first got PA-RISC-based workstations at
> work.  ;-)
>
> Matthew, NS 4.79 works fine on 8.0 for me.  Here are the packages it
> requres:
>
> enoch:[/tmp]rpm -q netscape-communicator --requires|grep ^l|xargs rpm -q
> --whatprovides|sort -u
> XFree86-libs-4.2.0-72
> compat-glibc-6.2-2.1.3.2
> compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96.110
> glibc-2.2.93-5
>
> Regards,
> Paul

Thanks for all the replies.  That's one less reason not to upgrade.

-- 
Matthew Saltzman

Clemson University Math Sciences
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Erwin J. Prinz]

Tom:

Based on your picture, either antialiasing is not enabled or the fonts 
you chose can't be antialiased. When font is antialiased, it has greyish 
pixels around the black pixels belonging to characters. The greyish 
pixels compensate for the lack of complete alignment of the character 
shapes with the "pixel boundaries" of your display. I have installed 
packages from the mozilla ftp site which result in anti-aliased text. 
The packages are:

mozilla-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-chat-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-devel-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-dom-inspector-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-js-debugger-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-mail-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-nspr-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-nspr-devel-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-nss-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-nss-devel-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm
mozilla-psm-1.2b-2002101622_trunk_xft.i386.rpm

When installed, they replace the "psyche" mozilla packages.
I had to change some preferences for mozilla by adding a file:
/home/erwin/.mozilla/default/0xxs.slt/chrome/userChrome.css
according to the instructions in
http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html

See my screenshot at
http://home.austin.rr.com/prinz/Screenshot.png

Best regards, Erwin

Re: i386 kernel not included? (Mike A. Harris)

[Atlantic Tech Solutions]

Mike,

Thanks for the succinct and very clear explanation. I have come to many
of the same conclusions. There are few apps which do benefit from
-march=i686, but if one aims to increase performance for a given
application other compiler optimizations will have a more dramatic
benefit. 

Apps which use lots of floating point code can <> benefit
from options like -ffast-math. My short bit of testing shows
-march=athlon or -march=athlon-xp makes a bigger difference on
8.0(because of gcc 3.2), than variations on x86.  

Simply upgrading from gcc 2.96 from 3.2 probably gains the most. :O

YMMV

Perhaps this should be posted on redhat.com and/or in the user docs..

Peter

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[dTd]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:23:48 +0100
"Tom Coady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: "Michael Fratoni"
> > You can install MS "core fonts for the web" via rpm.
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/font-tool/
> > Install both the cabextract and xf86-corefonts packages,
> 
> Oh my god, thank you thank you. Finally I have beauty in both mozilla and
> the rest of RH8 :)
> 
> > then execute
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/core_font_install.sh
> 
> Funnily enough I omitted this step - just restarted mozilla.
> 
> If you are interested to see what happened,
> 
> This is what my screen looks like before:
> 
> http://www.aovt15.dsl.pipex.com/snapshot1.png
> 
> after:
> 
> http://www.aovt15.dsl.pipex.com/snapshot2.png

I must be weird, I like the before shot better :)

-- 
/dTd
Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall

Re: Compilation of avifile

[HoytDuff]

On Sunday 20 October 2002 11:13 am, Mike A. Harris scribbled in crayon on a 
yellow legal pad:
> I get to see this about 50 times a day.  Quite often, the
> solution to their problem is in the last 20 lines of error log
> output.  ;o)

Perhaps what is needed is a brief tutorial on understanding those last 20 
lines and applying that knowledge to fix the problem.

-- 
Hoyt
http://www.maximumhoyt.com

A train stops at a train station. A bus stops at a bus station. This explains 
the problem with my workstation.

Should I erase Mozilla 1.1 Before Upgrading, Since Psyche Uses 1.0.1?

[John P Verel]

I'm getting ready to to an upgrade to 8.0 from my 7.3 stock disto.
I've previously upgraded Mozilla to 1.1-0.  Psyche uses 1.0.1, IIRC, and
presumably Nautilus and Galeon are built with this dependency.

Should I erase the Mozilla packages before doing the upgrade?


John

firstboot and runlevel 3

[Matthew Saltzman]

I saw something a while ago about this, but I can't locate it in the
UNSEARCHABLE Red Hat mailing list archives.  What does firstboot do and
how do I get it run on a server that starts in runlevel 3 (X is installed,
but not GNOME or KDE).  Also, once it runs, do I need it and metacity,
or can I remove them?

TIA.

-- 
Matthew Saltzman

Clemson University Math Sciences
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Petr Soucek]

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 10:48, Mike A. Harris wrote::

> i386 and i486 class hardware hasn't been supported in 
> Red Hat Linux since Red Hat Linux 7.0 or 6.2 (I don't recall 
> specifically off the top of my head).  An i386 kernel has been 
> supplied, but for reasons other than supporting i386.

It seems there is some confusion in Hardware compatibility list, all 
distributions upto 8.0 were marked as "Compatible" for 80386, 80486 
and 5x86 processors. For RHL 8.0 I asked maintainer to mark these 
processors as "Not supported" and he changed it, but all previous 
releases are still marked as compatible, e.g.:
http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=3399
http://hardware.redhat.com/hcl/?pagename=details&hid=2869
etc


Petr Soucek
Ryston Electronics s.r.o.
Modranska 621/72
CZ-143 00 Praha 4, Czech Republic
tel +420 22527fax +420 225272211 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.ryston.cz

Re: Maestro3 on Dell Latitude CPxJ - not solved

[Roger]

Around Sun,Oct 20 2002, at 02:50,  Bernd Kunze, wrote:
> Well, I did the reinstall from scratch, maestro3 works great under
> the stock kernel, however after applying the updated kernel, I get those
> error messages and gnome becomes unresponsive when sound events are
> turned on.
> 
> FWIW...
> 

I have a Dell Inspiron 8100.  esd goes close  to 100% cpu under the 
2.4.18-17.8.0  kernel.  Going back to 2.5.18-14 sound works again.

-- 
Roger

Re: Maestro3 on Dell Latitude CPxJ - not solved

[Bernd Kunze]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 20:09, Roger wrote:
> 
> Around Sun,Oct 20 2002, at 02:50,  Bernd Kunze, wrote:
> > Well, I did the reinstall from scratch, maestro3 works great under
> > the stock kernel, however after applying the updated kernel, I get those
> > error messages and gnome becomes unresponsive when sound events are
> > turned on.
> > 
> > FWIW...
> > 
> 
> I have a Dell Inspiron 8100.  esd goes close  to 100% cpu under the 
> 2.4.18-17.8.0  kernel.  Going back to 2.5.18-14 sound works again.
> 
> -- 
> Roger
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Psyche-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
> 
Thank God, I'm not alone.

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[dTd]

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 12:56:46 -0400
Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 02:56:27PM +0100, Tom Coady wrote:
> > 
> > I just clicked the link which opened the ftp site in konqueror. Select
> > all, right click, install packages, they are automatically downloaded,
> > dependency checked and installed while the old RPMs are automatically
> > removed. This is just getting better and better. Having said that I cannot
> > see any difference so far, except that it has restored mozilla as my
> > default browser. Frankly the fonts in konqueror look much prettier still,
> > but perhaps I need to select different ones to the default?
> 
> If it is like the non-RH mozilla-xft builds, you have to configure it
> separately for AA. 
> 
> Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
>  
> // TrueType ///
>  pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true);
>  pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6");
>  
>  // if libfreetype was built without hinting compiled in
>  // it is best to leave hinting off. try it both ways to see.
>  pref("font.FreeType2.autohinted", true);
>  pref("font.FreeType2.unhinted", false);
>  
>  // below a certian pixel size anti-aliased fonts produce poor results
>  pref("font.antialias.min",10);
>  pref("font.embedded_bitmaps.max", 100);
>  pref("font.scale.tt_bitmap.dark_text.min", 64);
>  pref("font.scale.tt_bitmap.dark_text.gain", "0.8");
>  
>  // sample prefs for TrueType font dirs
>  //pref("font.directory.truetype.1", "/u/sam/tt_font");
>  //pref("font.directory.truetype.2", "/u/sam/other/tt_font");
>  pref("font.directory.truetype.1", "/usr/share/fonts/truetype");
> 
> 
> Look for that section, and season to taste. You do have to turn it on,
> and tell it where the fonts are at a minimum. You then have to select
> the appropriate fonts in the Mozilla appearance/fonts configuration
> using the ones that are upper cased. Again, assuming it is like the
> standard builds. There is no click and go feature AFAIK. There is
> still some small glimmer of hope, I guess. Hinting made a big
> difference here too.
> 
> -- 
> Hal Burgiss
>
  
Very cool, it works for the pheonix nightlies too :)

-- 
/dTd
Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall

evolution font too small

[P]

Is there a way to change the font size used in evolution .. everything is 
too small for me?

rpm storage location while up2date downloading

[Oisin C. Feeley]

Hi all,

I just ran the RHN Alert Notification Tool from the panel, which in turn
ran up2date.  Looking in /var/spool/up2date during the download of the
latest kernel-source.X.rpm I noticed that until the rpm had been
downloaded only the kernel-source.X.hdr was in that directory.

In order to try and find where the file was I did an "updatedb; locate
kernel-source", ran "lsof -c up2date | grep kernel" all to no avail.

The only thing that turned up was the kernel-source.X.hdr.  After the
kernel-source.rpm package displayed 100% downloaded in the up2date window
the kernel-source.X.rpm appeared in /var/spool/up2date.

So, does anyone know where are these files stored during the download
process?

Thanks,
Oisin Feeley

Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Hal Burgiss]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 03:02:04PM -0400, dTd wrote:
>   
> Very cool, it works for the pheonix nightlies too :)

Double cool :) Do they have proxy support yet?  ... guess I should
ckeck it and see.

-- 
Hal Burgiss
 

Re: rpm storage location while up2date downloading

[Paul Gear]

Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just ran the RHN Alert Notification Tool from the panel, which in turn
> ran up2date.  Looking in /var/spool/up2date during the download of the
> latest kernel-source.X.rpm I noticed that until the rpm had been
> downloaded only the kernel-source.X.hdr was in that directory.
> 
> In order to try and find where the file was I did an "updatedb; locate
> kernel-source", ran "lsof -c up2date | grep kernel" all to no avail.
> 
> The only thing that turned up was the kernel-source.X.hdr.  After the
> kernel-source.rpm package displayed 100% downloaded in the up2date window
> the kernel-source.X.rpm appeared in /var/spool/up2date.
> 
> So, does anyone know where are these files stored during the download
> process?

Out of curiosity, why do you want to know?  What difference does it
make?  You can't use them until they're complete anyway.

PDG

Re: Maestro3 on Dell Latitude CPxJ - not solved

[Alexander Volovics]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 08:59:11PM +0200, Bernd Kunze wrote:

> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 20:09, Roger wrote:

> > Around Sun,Oct 20 2002, at 02:50,  Bernd Kunze, wrote:
> > > Well, I did the reinstall from scratch, maestro3 works great under
> > > the stock kernel, however after applying the updated kernel, I get those
> > > error messages and gnome becomes unresponsive when sound events are
> > > turned on.
  
> > I have a Dell Inspiron 8100.  esd goes close  to 100% cpu under the 
> > 2.4.18-17.8.0  kernel.  Going back to 2.5.18-14 sound works again.
 
> Thank God, I'm not alone.

Did you bugzilla it?

Alexander

Re: rpm storage location while up2date downloading

[Oisin C. Feeley]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Paul Gear wrote:
> Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
[snip]
> > In order to try and find where the file was I did an "updatedb; locate
> > kernel-source", ran "lsof -c up2date | grep kernel" all to no avail.
> > 
> > The only thing that turned up was the kernel-source.X.hdr.  After the
> > kernel-source.rpm package displayed 100% downloaded in the up2date window
> > the kernel-source.X.rpm appeared in /var/spool/up2date.
> > 
> > So, does anyone know where are these files stored during the download
> > process?
> 
> Out of curiosity, why do you want to know?  What difference does it
> make?  You can't use them until they're complete anyway.
> 

Two reasons:
1. I want to go back to using "up2date-nox" as I'm trying to cut down the 
number of GUI based tools that I use because this box is _crawling_ along 
with RH8.0.  I want to be able to monitor how much of the file has 
downloaded.  When I configure up2date, there's a specific "StorageDir" 
which is /var/spool/up2date. I'd like to do a "ls -lh /var/spool/up2date".

2. Curiosity.  I like to know where things are going and how they work.  
And at this stage I'm upset that "lsof -c up2date" doesn't reveal where 
the downloaded file is being stored.  I find that deeply disturbing.

Oisin Feeley

Re: Compilation of avifile

[Jurgen Kramer]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 17:18, dTd wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 08:50:40 +0200
> Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On 19 Oct 2002 23:29:27 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote:
> > 
> > > I have been trying to compile avifile (from CVS) but it always fails
> > > with a message similar to this:
> > > 
> > > rm -fr .libs/libdha_vid.la .libs/libdha_vid.* .libs/libdha_vid.*
> > > (cd . && ln -s libdha.lo libdha.lo)
> > > (cd . && ln -s mtrr.lo mtrr.lo)
> > > (cd . && ln -s pci.lo pci.lo)
> > > (cd . && ln -s pci_names.lo pci_names.lo)
> > > (cd . && ln -s mmi.lo mmi.lo)
> > > (cd . && ln -s ports.lo ports.lo)
> > > ar cru .libs/libdha_vid.al libdha.lo mtrr.lo pci.lo pci_names.lo
> > > mmi.lo ports.lo
> > > ar: libdha.lo: Too many levels of symbolic links
> > > make[3]: *** [libdha_vid.la] Error 1
> > > make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers/libdha'
> > > make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers/libdha'
> > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/avifile-0.6/drivers'
> > > make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > > 
> > > Is this purely a RH8/GCC3.2 thing? Any solutions?
> > 
> > I don't see where GCC3.2 is involved in your example at all.
> > 
Ok I did not mean to blame GCC nor RH. It's problably something with
newer/other versions of libtool/make/automake and friends.

Thing is this compiles with 7.3...

> > Look at the top of your quote where the links are created.
> > Linking a file back to itself doesn't look like a good idea.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Didn't I read there was problems with the CVS for avifile on their website
> recently and not to use it yet?
> 
> -- 
> /dTd
> Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

Re: Maestro3 on Dell Latitude CPxJ - not solved

[Bernd Kunze]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 21:51, Alexander Volovics wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 08:59:11PM +0200, Bernd Kunze wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 20:09, Roger wrote:
> 
> > > Around Sun,Oct 20 2002, at 02:50,  Bernd Kunze, wrote:
> > > > Well, I did the reinstall from scratch, maestro3 works great under
> > > > the stock kernel, however after applying the updated kernel, I get those
> > > > error messages and gnome becomes unresponsive when sound events are
> > > > turned on.
>   
> > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8100.  esd goes close  to 100% cpu under the 
> > > 2.4.18-17.8.0  kernel.  Going back to 2.5.18-14 sound works again.
>  
> > Thank God, I'm not alone.
> 
> Did you bugzilla it?
> 
> Alexander
> 
As a paying customer: Does RH read this mailing list?
> 
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Re: Maestro3 on Dell Latitude CPxJ - not solved

[Arjan van de Ven]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 21:51, Alexander Volovics wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 08:59:11PM +0200, Bernd Kunze wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 20:09, Roger wrote:
> 
> > > Around Sun,Oct 20 2002, at 02:50,  Bernd Kunze, wrote:
> > > > Well, I did the reinstall from scratch, maestro3 works great under
> > > > the stock kernel, however after applying the updated kernel, I get those
> > > > error messages and gnome becomes unresponsive when sound events are
> > > > turned on.
>   
> > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8100.  esd goes close  to 100% cpu under the 
> > > 2.4.18-17.8.0  kernel.  Going back to 2.5.18-14 sound works again.
>  
> > Thank God, I'm not alone.
> 
> Did you bugzilla it?

It's in bugzilla already. I'm planning on providing an updated driver
tomorrow morning




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Re: evolution font too small

[Jim Hayward]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 12:17, P wrote:
> Is there a way to change the font size used in evolution .. everything is 
> too small for me?
> 

People who send HTML e-mails to the list will usually display with fonts
that need a magnifying glass to read in Evolution.

From the menu click View/message display/show e-mail source and you will
see the cause of the tiny fonts. Just click View/message display/normal
display to restore you view.

CTRL+8 will increase the font size
CTRL+9 will return to the original size

You can set you font preferences in Setting. 

The cure is for people to NOT send HTML e-mails.

Regards,
Jim H



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Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[dTd]

On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:28:31 -0400
Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 03:02:04PM -0400, dTd wrote:
> >   
> > Very cool, it works for the pheonix nightlies too :)
> 
> Double cool :) Do they have proxy support yet?  ... guess I should
> ckeck it and see.

Absolutely, pheonix is my only browser now, I love it, last night was the last
hurdle, the option to select cookie sites is in. This great stuff.

-- 
/dTd
Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall

Re: rpm storage location while up2date downloading

[Craig White]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 13:05, Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Paul Gear wrote:
> > Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
> [snip]
> > > In order to try and find where the file was I did an "updatedb; locate
> > > kernel-source", ran "lsof -c up2date | grep kernel" all to no avail.
> > > 
> > > The only thing that turned up was the kernel-source.X.hdr.  After the
> > > kernel-source.rpm package displayed 100% downloaded in the up2date window
> > > the kernel-source.X.rpm appeared in /var/spool/up2date.
> > > 
> > > So, does anyone know where are these files stored during the download
> > > process?
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, why do you want to know?  What difference does it
> > make?  You can't use them until they're complete anyway.
> > 
> 
> Two reasons:
> 1. I want to go back to using "up2date-nox" as I'm trying to cut down the 
> number of GUI based tools that I use because this box is _crawling_ along 
> with RH8.0.  I want to be able to monitor how much of the file has 
> downloaded.  When I configure up2date, there's a specific "StorageDir" 
> which is /var/spool/up2date. I'd like to do a "ls -lh /var/spool/up2date".
> 
> 2. Curiosity.  I like to know where things are going and how they work.  
> And at this stage I'm upset that "lsof -c up2date" doesn't reveal where 
> the downloaded file is being stored.  I find that deeply disturbing.
---
/var/spool/up2date/

Craig

Re: Compilation of avifile

[Michael Schwendt]

On 20 Oct 2002 22:25:51 +0200, Jurgen Kramer wrote:

> It's problably something with
> newer/other versions of libtool/make/automake and friends.

Can't reproduce this with 8.0. CVS checked out, "sh autogen.sh ;
./configure ; make" compiles till the end. Any special differences
to what you use?

$ rpm -q autoconf automake libtool
autoconf-2.53-8
automake-1.6.3-1
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Re: up2date

[jim]

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 19:20, Scott Foley wrote:
> I click on the red exclamation update button and the popup says I need
> to supply the root password. I enter the root password and I get another
> window with the recommended updates for my system. Then I click the
> up2date button and I get this message:
> 
> Error Message:
> Please run rhn_register as root on this client
> Error Class Code: 9
> Error Class Info: Invalid Server Certificate.
> Explanation: 
>  An error has occurred while processing your request. If this
> problem
>  persists please submit a bug report to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  If you choose to submit the bug report, please be sure to include
>  details of what you were trying to do when this error occurred and
>  details on how to reproduce this problem.
> 
> 
> Anybody seen this? What can I do to get the updates?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Scott
There are a number of reasons to get this error.
The most common is that the system is not yet registered at RH.
It can happen if your system time has changed since registering.
This can make it so that the certificate has expired or is being
generated in the future.
I have had this happen for no apparent reason from X and opened
up a terminal su root and used the up2date command from the CLI
and had it work perfectly.
The command rhn_registar works the command line as well.

Jim Scott

Of course maybe you shouldn't listen to me.  I'm unemployed.
 
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Re: up2date

[jim]

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 19:27, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 19 Oct 2002 22:20:28 -0400
> Scott Foley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> # 
> # 
> # Anybody seen this? What can I do to get the updates?
> 
> Open a term, "su -" to root, run up2date --register
Is this a new option for up2date?  I mean comes with 8.0.
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Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Michael Fratoni]

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On Sunday 20 October 2002 12:23 pm, Tom Coady wrote:
> From: "Michael Fratoni"
>
> > You can install MS "core fonts for the web" via rpm.
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/font-tool/
> > Install both the cabextract and xf86-corefonts packages,
>
> Oh my god, thank you thank you. Finally I have beauty in both mozilla
> and the rest of RH8 :)
>
> > then execute
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/core_font_install.sh
>
> Funnily enough I omitted this step - just restarted mozilla.
>
> If you are interested to see what happened,
>
> This is what my screen looks like before:

I'll have to look at the screenshots when I have a moment later tonight, 
but if you didn't run the script, then the new fonts are not being used. 
They can't be, they are sitting in /opt/xf86-corefonts/ as windows self 
extracting cabinet files. If there is a linux font server that can access 
them in that form, I am not aware of it. ;)
ls /opt/xf86-corefonts
/opt/xf86-corefonts/andale32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/arial32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/arialb32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/comic32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/courie32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/eula.txt
/opt/xf86-corefonts/georgi32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/impact32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/times32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/trebuc32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/verdan32.exe
/opt/xf86-corefonts/webdin32.exe

The script extracts the files, puts them in the system's font path, adds 
them to the fontserver's search path, and runs fc-cache. You really want 
to run the install script. :)

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Re: rpm storage location while up2date downloading

[Oisin C. Feeley]

On 20 Oct 2002, Craig White wrote:
Oisin C. Feeley wrote:
[snip]
> > 1. I want to go back to using "up2date-nox" as I'm trying to cut down the 
> > number of GUI based tools that I use because this box is _crawling_ along 
> > with RH8.0.  I want to be able to monitor how much of the file has 
> > downloaded.  When I configure up2date, there's a specific "StorageDir" 
> > which is /var/spool/up2date. I'd like to do a "ls -lh /var/spool/up2date".
[snip]
> ---
> /var/spool/up2date/
> 
No.  That's the point.  The rpm doesn't appear in /var/spool/up2date until 
it is 100% downloaded.  Intrigued by this I tried to find out where it was 
being temporarily stored using lsof.  

Thanks for the suggestion though.

Oisin Feeley

Re: up2date

[Jesse Keating]

On 20 Oct 2002 15:04:38 -0700
jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

# Is this a new option for up2date?  I mean comes with 8.0.

Yes.  The "rhn_register" functionality was rolled into "up2date"

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Re: firstboot and runlevel 3

[Michael Fratoni]

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On Sunday 20 October 2002 01:41 pm, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> I saw something a while ago about this, but I can't locate it in the
> UNSEARCHABLE Red Hat mailing list archives.  What does firstboot do and
> how do I get it run on a server that starts in runlevel 3 (X is
> installed, but not GNOME or KDE).  Also, once it runs, do I need it and
> metacity, or can I remove them?
>

firstboot just runs through a few configuration utilities. (time/date, Red 
Hat network, and offers the chance to install additional rpms.) There is 
no real need to run it, as far as I know. 
It will run the first time you boot into run-level 5. It may run if you do 
"init 5" I'm not sure. It will never run in run level 3.

I don't know that you need either. Try uninstalling them, and see what rpm 
complains about. ;)

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Re: Psyche-list digest, Vol 1 #257 - 14 msgs

[P]

On Sunday 20 October 2002 17:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Subject: Re: evolution font too small
> From: Jim Hayward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization:
> Date: 20 Oct 2002 13:38:31 -0700
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> --=-hfPxIEq4k33l96xHwP8J
> Content-Type: text/plain
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 12:17, P wrote:
> > Is there a way to change the font size used in evolution ..
> > everything is=
>
> =20
>
> > too small for me?
> >=20
>
> People who send HTML e-mails to the list will usually display with
> fonts that need a magnifying glass to read in Evolution.
>
> =46rom the menu click View/message display/show e-mail source and you
> will see the cause of the tiny fonts. Just click View/message
> display/normal display to restore you view.
>
> CTRL+8 will increase the font size
> CTRL+9 will return to the original size
>
> You can set you font preferences in Setting.=20
>
> The cure is for people to NOT send HTML e-mails.
>
> Regards,
> Jim H

thanks for the reply ... actually, I miscommunicated the problem, which 
is that everything in the gui is too small.  The menubar, toolbar, menu 
lists, and especially the summary display.  I have my monitor at 
1028x768 and don't want to reduce it.  I know in mozilla there's a 
userChrome.css file that can be customized to enlarge gui fonts, and 
was wondering if there is some similar capability with evolution.

Paul

Re: i386 kernel not included?

[Andrew Smith]

> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Andrew Smith wrote:
> 
>>Well - having thought about it a bit more ...
>>
>>Removing one 12Mb RPM is quite rediculous when almost EVERY other intel
>>RPM is built for an i386. Even glibc has an i386 version.
>>If you say that you no longer support i386 - then build all the
>>RPM's to i586 and be done with it. If every RPM was at least i586 then
>>all intel machines would run a ilttle bit faster.
> 
> Actually, you're wrong.  The architecture field present in the 
> RPM filename, and header indicates the "instruction set" in use 
> by the binaries inside the package.  It means that you need a 
> machine capable of that instruction set, or higher in order to 
> install and use the package.



OK - I've cut it all out so as not to waste bandwidth repeating
that very useful response - but I'll certainly say that has to be
the best reply to an e-mail that I have ever received!

Interesting if you take that to the next step - it means that there
are NO extra useful instruction or optimisations in a 486 or a
Pentium (586) procesor over a 386 processor i.e. Intel's only
enhancements from 386 to Pentium (586) was increased processor
speed and internal performance. Not only that - but there are also
no instruction optimisations in the 486 and Pentium (586) processors
over the 386 (OR the compiler developers couldn't be bothered
implementing them coz the optimisations are not worth the trouble)

>>I can think of a lot of reasons why the i386 kernel was not
>>there - but maybe one would be that general RedHat support for
> 
> Ultimately it was a disk space decision, as stated previously in 
> the thread.  The presence of an i386 kernel however would not be 
> endorsement of "support" for i386/i486 processors.  Our box, and 
> documentation list the minimum system requirements for support.  
> Any machines or hardware that do not meet the requirements, while 
> unsupported, may or may not work, and may or may not have a 
> kernel to use out of the box.

Yes - well as stated previously - disk space is not an issue - it
was probably more likely someone was told to not put it on
(or whoever arranged the CD's contents needs to be fired and replaced)

>>older hardware is not as good as MS (RedHat seems to sometimes
>>drop support for old hardware that was supported in the previous
> 
> Try to install Windows XP on an i386 or i486 computer and see how  far
> you get with Microsoft support.

My issue is that if there was a 386 kernel on the CD's it WILL work
on a 386 so basically you are stopping people who buy/download your
ISO's from running software on a machine that WILL work.
Yes there is no point running KDE/Gnome on anything much below a PIII 500
(I know that as a fact in earlier releases - a PII 333 is too slow)
but you do NOT need X to run a server - my DNS/mail server is only a
P90 and my router with over 450 lines of firewall that runs quite a
few other things (including a java message server I wrote)
is only a P166 and ... well it has PLENTY of spare processor space:
 up 34 days, load average: 0.19, 0.14, 0.10

Yet they may fall into the "no kernel available" hole in the future
even though they are well able to run as a server. I have a 486 that
used to be my mail/DNS server but has sat there unused for about a
year - but I know it is fast enough to do that job (and it would get
that job back if the current P90 failed)

> Anyway, I hope this clears up some confusion.
> 
> Take care,
> TTYL
> 
> Mike A. Harrisftp://people.redhat.com/mharris

Cleared up a lot of confusion
- thanks for the extreemly detailed reply.

-- 
-Cheers
-Andrew

MS ... if only he hadn't been hang gliding!

Problem with outgoing packets to port 7. (Security problem?)

[steveo]

I am getting syslog messages that look like this:

Oct 20 18:53:36 saturn kernel: DROP:IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=209.6.241.147 
DST=216.52.13.91 LEN=44 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=17664 DF PROTO=TCP 
SPT=43931 DPT=7 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 

I am only getting these messages because I have outbound packets with 
destination port 7 blocked. I think I may have been compromised in some 
way, just because the packets are outbound. They seem to come in groups of 
6 at seemingly random intervals and seem to be focused on the following 
addresses:
216.52.13.9[014] and 209.204.62.150

I have a number of questions about how to deal with this issue:

1. How can I find out what program is running to produce this?
2. Is anyone else getting messages like this in their syslog? (You would 
   need your firewall to block appropriately to see this.)
3. Is there any way that I can get access to those packets and see what 
   the message is that they are trying to send?

Nothing really bad has happened yet, but I'm getting nervous.

Thanks everyone.

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-happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ
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Re: Lexmark X125 -- Repeat Posting

[Walter Francis]

Steven Rubenstein wrote:


So I take it no one knows of a driver that might get a Lexmark X125 to
print?  (Can't find one on the Web.)


AFAIK Lexmark stopped Linux driver development about 18 months ago.

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Re: Maestro3 on Dell Latitude CPxJ - not solved

[Matthew Saltzman]

On 20 Oct 2002, Bernd Kunze wrote:

> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 21:51, Alexander Volovics wrote:

> > Did you bugzilla it?
> >
> > Alexander
> >
> As a paying customer: Does RH read this mailing list?

Yes, some RH-ers do (on a volunteer basis in their spare time), but they
will all tell you this:  If it's not in Bugzilla, it's not a bug.

(That is, paying customer or no, Bugzilla is the official support avenue.)

-- 
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RE: Problem with outgoing packets to port 7. (Security problem?)

[Dan Irwin]

Steve,

1) You can use netstat/lsof to track down the application sending these
packets.

2) Im not seeing any such packets in my firewall logs

3) To analyze these packets, use either tcpdump or Ethereal or both.
This is what i would do:

   1) tcpdump -s 1500 -i eth0 -w file.log dst port 7

  (This will log 1500bytes of each packet on eth0 to file.log (Why
1500 bytes? Thats the size of an ethernet MAC frame)

   2) Using Ethereal, open the file.log from Step 1), so you have a nice
graphical, point an click interface to analyze your packets.

If you suspect a system compromise download chkrootkit from
chkrootkit.org, and run it on your system.

Note that if you have been compromised, using netstat/lsof/tcpdump may
reveal nothing if the attacker has replaced the Redhat versions of these
tools with their own modified versions (ie to perform process hiding
etc)


HTH

- dan.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:steveo@;syslang.net]
Sent: Monday, 21 October 2002 11:20 AM
To: Psyche List
Subject: Problem with outgoing packets to port 7. (Security problem?)


I am getting syslog messages that look like this:

Oct 20 18:53:36 saturn kernel: DROP:IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=209.6.241.147 
DST=216.52.13.91 LEN=44 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=17664 DF PROTO=TCP 
SPT=43931 DPT=7 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 

I am only getting these messages because I have outbound packets with 
destination port 7 blocked. I think I may have been compromised in some 
way, just because the packets are outbound. They seem to come in groups
of 
6 at seemingly random intervals and seem to be focused on the following 
addresses:
216.52.13.9[014] and 209.204.62.150

I have a number of questions about how to deal with this issue:

1. How can I find out what program is running to produce this?
2. Is anyone else getting messages like this in their syslog? (You would

   need your firewall to block appropriately to see this.)
3. Is there any way that I can get access to those packets and see what 
   the message is that they are trying to send?

Nothing really bad has happened yet, but I'm getting nervous.

Thanks everyone.

-- 
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have -
-happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say
Organ
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Re: How should i make my computer with another OS make my Linux-box connect to internet with ppp?

[David Krider]

On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 10:21, dTd wrote:
> I saw a package on freshmeat designed to do just this, I have forgotten it's
> name, but a quick search for "demand dial" should get you some results. As a
> side note, you can set an idle option to pppd that will drop the connection
> after a certain amount of time. Not ver helpfull but hey it's a start.  :)

I can't believe that no one has nailed this down yet. It's very simple
to do, and everything you need is already in the distribution. If you
already have your main box connecting with pppd, there's just two things
left to do on the pppd side.

You must properly configure both network sides of your Linux box, you
must ENABLE IP FORWARDING (this one's easy to overlook), and you must -
as you said - enable masquerading through iptables.

(In 7.3, there was a GUI to configure everything you want. It was called
rp3-config. I don't know if it's there in RH 8 as I have regressed to
7.3 again because I have issues with the font situation. I'm sure
there's an equivalent, though it will probably be called
`redhat-config-something'.)

Anyway, all it did was configure `ifcfg-pppX' scripts in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. The options you need are "DEMAND=yes"
and "IDLETIMEOUT=XXX".


Regards,
dk

Re: Dell 2300 with megaraid (perc sc/2)

[Keith Morse]

On 20 Oct 2002, Keith Winston wrote:

> On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 23:14, Keith Morse wrote:
>
> There is some key combination (Alt-F10 or something) that should let you
> bring up the BIOS on the megaraid controller when it boots, then you
> should be able to look at the current settings and adjust them if
> necessary.

I've been muddling thru the different bios configurations in a effort to 
identify the resources this card uses.  No success there either.  The 
names used on either side of the fence don't correlate so its a trial and 
error affair.  In researching the documentation I've found on RedHat's web 
site, it appears that the megaraid.o modules accepts no options arguments.

I finally whimped out and installed a 4gb scsi hard drive just to get the 
OS loaded.  I'll continue trouble shooting from there.  Thanks for your 
efforts.

Re: Problem with outgoing packets to port 7. (Security problem?)

[Michael Fratoni]

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On Sunday 20 October 2002 09:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am only getting these messages because I have outbound packets with
> destination port 7 blocked. I think I may have been compromised in some
> way, just because the packets are outbound. They seem to come in groups
> of 6 at seemingly random intervals and seem to be focused on the
> following addresses:
>   216.52.13.9[014] and 209.204.62.150
>
> I have a number of questions about how to deal with this issue:
>
> 1. How can I find out what program is running to produce this?
> 2. Is anyone else getting messages like this in their syslog? (You
> would need your firewall to block appropriately to see this.)
> 3. Is there any way that I can get access to those packets and see what
>the message is that they are trying to send?

It would appear you are not alone. There have been other reports of the 
same behaviour. 209.204.62.150 resolves to razor.pacificnet.net. The 
other addresses don't resolve.
Searching on google for that returns several hits, the first 2 being dead 
links. Not much info, and no real answer that I saw.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22razor.pacificnet.net%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0

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Re: Psyche-list digest, Vol 1 #239 - 18 msgs

[Iain Buchanan]

> Message: 5
> Subject: Re: General questions
> From: Michael Knepher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 13:53, Justin Georgeson wrote:
> > Is there a way to make the desktop icons smaller?
> 
> I'm not sure about doing a global change, but you can right-click on any
> desktop icon and choose "Stretch Icon" and scale them that way. Some of
For a 'global' change, you can just
open Nautilus;
go to Edit->Preferences;
go to Desktop & Trash and select 'Use Nautilus to draw the desktop';
go to 'views' and under 'Icon View Defaults' change your default zoom
level (to eg 75%).
You should see the icon sizes on the desktop change right away. (I do!)

Iain Buchanan




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Re: Problem with outgoing packets to port 7. (Security problem?)

[Michael Fratoni]

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On Sunday 20 October 2002 11:12 pm, Michael Fratoni wrote:

> It would appear you are not alone. There have been other reports of the
> same behaviour. 209.204.62.150 resolves to razor.pacificnet.net. The
> other addresses don't resolve.
> Searching on google for that returns several hits, the first 2 being
> dead links. Not much info, and no real answer that I saw.
> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22razor.pacificnet.net%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=
>UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0

Because of the server name, this was my first thought but I discounted it. 
Now, having searched further, are you by any chance using Vipul's Razor 
for spam reporting?
Searching for 209.204.62.150 results in a few hits, it appears to be a 
razor server.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22209.204.62.150%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=0

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Re: Mozilla with Anti Aliasing

[Bill Nottingham]

Hal Burgiss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> If it is like the non-RH mozilla-xft builds, you have to configure it
> separately for AA. 
> 
> Look for /usr/lib/mozilla-*/defaults/pref/unix.js:
>  
> // TrueType ///
>  pref("font.FreeType2.enable", true);
>  pref("font.freetype2.shared-library", "libfreetype.so.6");

These don't look right. As I understand, earlier versions could
use freetype directly, which is what this sort of config would be for;
what the new patch enables is use of Xft and fontconfig.

Bill

dhclient on InsightBB cable modem?

[Warren Togami]

Has anyone managed to get dhclient to work on InsightBB cable modem
service?  My friend tried the suggested line to add to
/etc/dhclient.conf but it didn't work.  This is the line he tried, his
client name substituted of course.

send host-name "CLIENTNAME";

Re: Create Live! Platinum not installed by default

[Bill Nottingham]

Ryan Harkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
> Like the tulip network cards, I have not heard anyone else complaining that 
> their Creative Live! card will not install automatically with RedHat 8.0, but 
> mine won't.  RedHat 7.3 ignored it completely, but 8.0 detects it and then 
> disables it.

'disables' it? Can you elaborate?

Also, can you post the output of lspci -v?

Bill