Re: Intentionally bad port behaviour

2022-11-14 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, Chris wrote:

> Exceptionally bad behavior for anything in the ports tree.
> I think this port should be patched out of the ports tree.

And then block that creature from ever having anything to do with ports 
again...  That is a gross abuse of trust.

-- Dave



Re: Unmaintained FreeBSD ports which are out of date

2023-03-06 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 6 Mar 2023, portsc...@freebsd.org wrote:

[...]

> +-+
> cad/ifcopenshell| 0.6.0   | 
> blenderbim-230306
> +-+

If "ifcopenshell" (whatever that is) is so unstable as to require daily
patches then perhaps it should never have been released?  Or is this an
underhanded way to promote "blenderbim" (whatever that is)?

-- Dave



Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly

2023-09-25 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Guido Falsi wrote:

> Anyway building from ports on live machines has always been bad practice 
> for a lot of reasons.

That's fine if you can afford a spare system just for building...

-- Dave



Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly

2023-09-26 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Roger Marquis wrote:

> Or $5/mo for a Digitalocean VM.

They host spammers, so I cannot use them (the Boulder Pledge etc); there 
are probably other VMs around, should I feel the need.


On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, Guido Falsi wrote:

> > That's fine if you can afford a spare system just for building...
> 
> Again, anyone can do things the way he prefer, but to do things properly 
> there are minimum requirements, if you can't get those, you will have to 
> accept compromises and the issues that come with those compromises.
> 
> What you can't do is expect others to fix your own self imposed issues.

That was an observation, not a complaint; are you always this narky?  No 
wonder I'm starting to favour the Mac...

-- Dave



Re: Stopping and restarting poudriere

2021-06-08 Thread Dave Horsfall

On Tue, 8 Jun 2021, bob prohaska wrote:

More generally, can a poudriere session be gracefully stopped, say for 
maintenance work or to run a more urgent job, and then restarted without 
loss of intermediate work?


Well, there's ^Z depending upon what you want to do in the meantime...

-- Dave



Re: [REQUEST] Portfolio Performance

2021-08-28 Thread Dave Horsfall

Is it just me, or does this look suspiciously like an advert?

-- Dave



Re: About GIT and committing submissions

2021-10-18 Thread Dave Horsfall

On Mon, 18 Oct 2021, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:


I'm relatively neutral about this, but if it's adopted, please
document it.  git still seems like a minefield to me.


Lots of references to "git hell" etc...  It's basically a terrible design.

I use BitKeeper for my internal stuff; it helps that the author hangs out 
on TUHS etc, and is willing to answer questions.


-- Dave



Re: Adding functionality to a port

2021-11-14 Thread Dave Horsfall

On Sun, 14 Nov 2021, George Mitchell wrote:

Perhaps I'm naïve, but to me the Principle of Least Amazement really 
does completely cover the issues being raised here.  Is it necessary to 
complicate the situation any more than that?  -- George


First time I've heard POLA called that; I knew it as "... astonishment" 
some decades ago (by Dr. John Lions; for all I know he could've coined 
it).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment

-- Dave

Re: Adding functionality to a port

2021-11-16 Thread Dave Horsfall

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, Gregory Byshenk wrote:

I am just a user, but my understanding is that FreeBSD developers take 
the OS very seriously, but do not take themselves too seriously.


Best comment I've seen in this increasingly-sillier thread.

-- Dave



Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

2022-01-24 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:

> > [...] Tho I must admit I find @bapt's recent tcp proposal an 
> > interesting and appealing idea. :-)
> 
> The proposal is now in anyway ;)

That was fast; excellent service, sir!  I now have even more reason to 
upgrade my ancient server (FTP is forbidden on my LAN; SSH was trivial to 
set up).

> I am just struggling on the name of the scheme: tcp:// or pkg+tcp:// 
> (with a rename of ssh into pkg+ssh:// :D)

I'm only a minnow here, but that "+" looks pretty ugly; are there any 
other methods that contain a "+" symbol?  It looks like a sort of a port 
variant (in MacOS terms, which I also use).

-- Dave