Re: [Pharo-users] Breaking News

2017-04-02 Thread Ben Coman 
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Dimitris Chloupis 
wrote:

> Ironically and this is not April's Fool joke, Scratch has been exploding
> in popularity
>
> https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
>
> https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/scratch/
>
> So what Smalltalk has failed to achieve, Scratch is achieving it now even
> though it was made with Smalltalk. Makes sense though, many countries have
> been pushing coding into schools and Scratch was always a No1 choice, its
> just lately this push has been a lot more severe because of the severe lack
> of pro and amateur coders.
>

With a 12 month lag, you might say it fairly well follows the rise of RPi
sales...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zWwpcckDEEVAhNH3y7JQGxxbjP42nUywPOzDWr1fH28/edit#gid=0

Now Pharo is aiming at a business market and maybe not kids,
but some of those kids have parents that in the tech industry,
and of course they will want to help their kid's with their projects.
So now you have a few hours attention from a decision maker
who otherwise wouldn't have time to poke something new with a barge pole.


>
> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 8:54 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>
>> Well... I was just trying to get myself unembarrassed... but was not
>> catch was not mine... next years I will let it run wildly and help to it.
>>
>
Of course :)
For a few minutes it *really* made my day also (until I searched and the
other half of my brain caught up).

cheers -ben

> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>> On 01/04/17 12:32, Ben Coman wrote:
>>
>> Too quick Offray :) Shoulda let it run...
>> cheers -ben
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
>> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ohhh... April 1st (the local date for that is Dec 28th, so it always
>> kind of confuse me).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/04/17 12:22, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing. There is any link to the HPE site on the news about
>> investing 1.2 billion in the R & D Research Lab?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>>
>> On 01/04/17 11:10, horrido wrote:
>>
>> Smalltalk to get a second crack at the whip
>> > second-crack-at-the-whip-ecaeb8a94533>
>> . By frickin' time!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/
>> Breaking-News-tp4940893.html
>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [Pharo-users] In the quest of Smacc idioms

2017-04-02 Thread Stephane Ducasse 
Tx thierry I will check and make some experiments.

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Thierry Goubier 
wrote:

>
>
> Le 01/04/2017 à 19:31, Stephane Ducasse a écrit :
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm trying to understand what are the idioms in Smacc when converting from
>> ANTLR
>>
>> # the case of * 
>> Function = ‘(‘ (',' Arguments )* ‘)’
>>
>
> Function: "(" ( Argument ("," Argument) * ) ? ")" {{}} ;
>
> Argument:  'argument' ;
>
> This one in SmaCC github, gives you exactly what you want (a Function ast
> node with an instance variable named arguments containing a possibly empty
> list of arguments) and is equivalent to your transform below.
>
> Even more concise; one can put the instance variable name in the top-level
> expression, and SmaCC will infer the list behavior:
>
> Function: "(" (Expression 'argument' ("," Expression 'argument')*)? {{}} ;
>
>  should be transformed into
>>
>> Function
>> :  "(" 'leftParen' _ArgumentsOption  ")" 'rightParen' {{}}
>> ;
>> _ArgumentsOption
>> :
>> | Arguments
>> ;
>> Arguments
>> : Expression 'argument'
>> | Arguments "," Expression 'argument'
>> ;
>>
>> Here since there is a recursion in Arguments
>> the instance variable containing a list of argument will be added to the
>> FunctionNode
>> Pay attention that Expression 'argument' should not have a {{}} nor its
>> parent rule.
>>
>>
>> # the case of + 
>> Function = ‘(‘  Arguments + ‘)’
>>
>
> Function: "(" Argument 'argument' ("," Argument 'argument') * ")";
>
> Argument:  ;
>
>  should be transformed into
>>
>> Function
>> :  "(" 'leftParen' _ArgumentsOption  ")" 'rightParen' {{}}
>> ;
>> _ArgumentsOption
>> : Arguments
>> ;
>> Arguments
>> : Expression 'argument'
>> | Arguments "," Expression 'argument'
>> ;
>>
>>
>>
>> # the case of ? 
>> Function = ‘(‘  Arguments+ ‘)’
>>
>
> Function = '(' Arguments? ')', that is:
>
> Function: "(" (Arguments 'argument') ? ")";
>
> You need the parenthesis here. This is a bug, it should accept
>
> Function: "(" Arguments 'argument' ? ")" ;
>
> I'll add an issue and improve the SmaCC grammar grammar.
>
>
>>  should be transformed into
>>
>> Function
>> :  "(" 'leftParen' _ArgumentsOption  ")" 'rightParen' {{}}
>> ;
>> _ArgumentsOption
>> :
>> | Arguments
>> ;
>> Arguments
>> : Expression 'argument'
>> ;
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a more compact way to express?
>>
>
> With +, *, ? and () of course :)
>
> Thierry do you have example of *, + , ? in the grammar?
>>
>
> No, not that many. I did not use them much professionally, and then I
> didn't make the effort to check that the AST annotations would work
> correctly with them, so I had a tendancy to remove them.
>
> This is the first time I'm really checking that annotations work properly
> over those syntax extensions.
>
> The initial (1.X) version of thoses annotations were not compatibles with
> the AST annotations, so I had back then to hack the SmaCC 2.0.3 base to
> support them, without having the time to check it was done properly on the
> annotation level.
>
> Thierry
>
> Stef
>>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] GSoC Proposal - Improve Code Completion

2017-04-02 Thread Stephane Ducasse 
Super.
Did you read the previous discussions and suggestions in the past in this
mailing-list?


On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Nahuel Garbezza 
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I'm trying to apply to GSoC and I have a proposal about Code completion. I
> would like to share with you:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R8zAq415UCqtn3AoAcRGDSQFZ_
> 5QgL88nQu6R7gozVE/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I know you guys have a lot of ideas around code completion, so any kind of
> feedback is appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Nahuel
>

Re: [Pharo-users] GSoC Proposal - Improve Code Completion

2017-04-02 Thread Ben Coman 
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Stephane Ducasse 
wrote:

> Super.
> Did you read the previous discussions and suggestions in the past in this
> mailing-list?
>

You can search here & sort by date...
http://forum.world.st/Pharo-f1294836.html

cheers -ben


>
>
> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Nahuel Garbezza 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> I'm trying to apply to GSoC and I have a proposal about Code completion.
>> I would like to share with you:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R8zAq415UCqtn3AoAcRGDSQF
>> Z_5QgL88nQu6R7gozVE/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> I know you guys have a lot of ideas around code completion, so any kind
>> of feedback is appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Nahuel
>>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Breaking News

2017-04-02 Thread p...@highoctane.be 
I often wonder why there isn't anyone on this list who has a
super-tech-philantropist-that-would-love-to-help-up-engineer-pharo-further
acquaintance (or is one).

Anyone?

Phil

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Ben Coman  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Dimitris Chloupis 
> wrote:
>
>> Ironically and this is not April's Fool joke, Scratch has been exploding
>> in popularity
>>
>> https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
>>
>> https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/scratch/
>>
>> So what Smalltalk has failed to achieve, Scratch is achieving it now even
>> though it was made with Smalltalk. Makes sense though, many countries have
>> been pushing coding into schools and Scratch was always a No1 choice, its
>> just lately this push has been a lot more severe because of the severe lack
>> of pro and amateur coders.
>>
>
> With a 12 month lag, you might say it fairly well follows the rise of RPi
> sales...
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zWwpcckDEEVAhNH3y7JQGxxbjP42n
> UywPOzDWr1fH28/edit#gid=0
>
> Now Pharo is aiming at a business market and maybe not kids,
> but some of those kids have parents that in the tech industry,
> and of course they will want to help their kid's with their projects.
> So now you have a few hours attention from a decision maker
> who otherwise wouldn't have time to poke something new with a barge pole.
>
>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 8:54 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
>> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well... I was just trying to get myself unembarrassed... but was not
>>> catch was not mine... next years I will let it run wildly and help to it.
>>>
>>
> Of course :)
> For a few minutes it *really* made my day also (until I searched and the
> other half of my brain caught up).
>
> cheers -ben
>
>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Offray
>>>
>>> On 01/04/17 12:32, Ben Coman wrote:
>>>
>>> Too quick Offray :) Shoulda let it run...
>>> cheers -ben
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
>>> offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ohhh... April 1st (the local date for that is Dec 28th, so it always
>>> kind of confuse me).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Offray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/04/17 12:22, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing. There is any link to the HPE site on the news about
>>> investing 1.2 billion in the R & D Research Lab?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Offray
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/04/17 11:10, horrido wrote:
>>>
>>> Smalltalk to get a second crack at the whip
>>> >> crack-at-the-whip-ecaeb8a94533>
>>> . By frickin' time!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Breaking
>>> -News-tp4940893.html
>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

[Pharo-users] GSoC Proposals as result of the 8th local Data Week

2017-04-02 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 

Hi,

We made another data week (the 8th one), this time focused on 
introducing novices to Pharo and Grafoscopio to participate in the GSoC 
and now we have two proposals:


 * 
http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md
 * 
http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md

both are related with Grafoscopio, but deal with different approaches (I 
thought that a project could have several students). Hopefully both can 
do it or the students will be able to pivot on the community binding 
month to other projects. Any comments are welcomed.


GSoC can be an important catalyst for community building around Pharo. 
For example, now we are connecting better, the people that is interested 
with reproducible research and literate computing with ones that are 
interested the infrastructures that made them possible.


Cheers,

Offray

Re: [Pharo-users] GSoC Proposals as result of the 8th local Data Week

2017-04-02 Thread Guillermo Polito 
Hi Offray,


On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We made another data week (the 8th one), this time focused on introducing
> novices to Pharo and Grafoscopio to participate in the GSoC and now we have
> two proposals:
>
Cool!


>- http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/
>Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md
>
> 
>- http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/
>Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md
>
> 
>
>
Both links look the same.

>
>
> both are related with Grafoscopio, but deal with different approaches (I
> thought that a project could have several students). Hopefully both can do
> it or the students will be able to pivot on the community binding month to
> other projects. Any comments are welcomed.
>

I see however that both proposals are already in google's site. Nice job :)


>
> GSoC can be an important catalyst for community building around Pharo. For
> example, now we are connecting better, the people that is interested with
> reproducible research and literate computing with ones that are interested
> the infrastructures that made them possible.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>

Re: [Pharo-users] GSoC Proposals as result of the 8th local Data Week

2017-04-02 Thread Serge Stinckwich 
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We made another data week (the 8th one), this time focused on introducing
> novices to Pharo and Grafoscopio to participate in the GSoC and now we have
> two proposals:
>
> http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md
> http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md
>
> both are related with Grafoscopio, but deal with different approaches (I
> thought that a project could have several students). Hopefully both can do
> it or the students will be able to pivot on the community binding month to
> other projects. Any comments are welcomed.
>
> GSoC can be an important catalyst for community building around Pharo. For
> example, now we are connecting better, the people that is interested with
> reproducible research and literate computing with ones that are interested
> the infrastructures that made them possible.

Thank you Offray. If you want to participate these projects to be in
GSOC for this year, you need to add them on the Google Summer of Code
website: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/

-- 
Serge Stinckwich
UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC)
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Re: [Pharo-users] GSoC Proposals as result of the 8th local Data Week

2017-04-02 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 

Hi,



On 02/04/17 09:45, Guillermo Polito wrote:

Hi Offray,


On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 
mailto:offray.l...@mutabit.com>> wrote:


Hi,

We made another data week (the 8th one), this time focused on
introducing novices to Pharo and Grafoscopio to participate in the
GSoC and now we have two proposals:

Cool!

  * 
http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md


  * 
http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md




Both links look the same.

 Je je, cut & paste duplication ;-P. The second one is this:

http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-oscar-garcia-proposal.md



both are related with Grafoscopio, but deal with different
approaches (I thought that a project could have several students).
Hopefully both can do it or the students will be able to pivot on
the community binding month to other projects. Any comments are
welcomed.


I see however that both proposals are already in google's site. Nice 
job :)


Thanks,

Offray

Re: [Pharo-users] GSoC Proposals as result of the 8th local Data Week

2017-04-02 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 

Hi,


On 02/04/17 09:48, Serge Stinckwich wrote:

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
 wrote:

Hi,

We made another data week (the 8th one), this time focused on introducing
novices to Pharo and Grafoscopio to participate in the GSoC and now we have
two proposals:

http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md
http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md

both are related with Grafoscopio, but deal with different approaches (I
thought that a project could have several students). Hopefully both can do
it or the students will be able to pivot on the community binding month to
other projects. Any comments are welcomed.

GSoC can be an important catalyst for community building around Pharo. For
example, now we are connecting better, the people that is interested with
reproducible research and literate computing with ones that are interested
the infrastructures that made them possible.

Thank you Offray. If you want to participate these projects to be in
GSOC for this year, you need to add them on the Google Summer of Code
website: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/



Both were added as proposals to the GSoC site. Do I need to add the 
Dataviz one [2] also here: http://gsoc.pharo.org/ ?


[2] 
http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/GSOC/2017-oscar-garcia-proposal.md


Cheers,

Offray

Re: [Pharo-users] GSoC Proposals as result of the 8th local Data Week

2017-04-02 Thread Ben Coman 
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 02/04/17 09:48, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We made another data week (the 8th one), this time focused on introducing
>>> novices to Pharo and Grafoscopio to participate in the GSoC and now we
>>> have
>>> two proposals:
>>>
>>> http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/
>>> GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md
>>> http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/
>>> GSOC/2017-offray-luna-proposal.md
>>>
>>> both are related with Grafoscopio, but deal with different approaches (I
>>> thought that a project could have several students). Hopefully both can
>>> do
>>> it or the students will be able to pivot on the community binding month
>>> to
>>> other projects. Any comments are welcomed.
>>>
>>> GSoC can be an important catalyst for community building around Pharo.
>>> For
>>> example, now we are connecting better, the people that is interested with
>>> reproducible research and literate computing with ones that are
>>> interested
>>> the infrastructures that made them possible.
>>>
>> Thank you Offray. If you want to participate these projects to be in
>> GSOC for this year, you need to add them on the Google Summer of Code
>> website: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
>>
>>
Only two days left for students to register!
That came around fast.
cheers -ben


>
> Both were added as proposals to the GSoC site. Do I need to add the
> Dataviz one [2] also here: http://gsoc.pharo.org/ ?
>
> [2] http://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/Events/
> GSOC/2017-oscar-garcia-proposal.md
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] GSoC Proposal - Improve Code Completion

2017-04-02 Thread Nahuel Garbezza 
Hi Stef,

2017-04-02 8:24 GMT-03:00 Stephane Ducasse :

> Super.
> Did you read the previous discussions and suggestions in the past in this
> mailing-list?
>

Yes I did. I put some of the ideas in the proposal.

Thanks

Re: [Pharo-users] PetitParser question parsing HTML meta tags

2017-04-02 Thread monty 
XMLParserHTML is the fastest HTML parser on Pharo, Squeak, and GS. It has DOM 
and SAX parsers and works with other libs such as PharoExtras/XPath and 
PharoExtras/XMLParserStAX.

Element and attribute names are normalized to lowercase, and printing XML DOM 
trees back as HTML is complicated by browsers not recognizing XML-style 
self-closing tags ending with "/>" for some elements (like "script"), so use 
#printedWithoutSelfClosingTags/#printWithoutSelfClosingTagsOn:/#printWithoutSelfClosingTagsToFileNamed:
 instead.

> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 1:58 PM
> From: "PAUL DEBRUICKER" 
> To: "Any question about pharo is welcome" 
> Subject: [Pharo-users] PetitParser question parsing HTML meta tags
>
> This is kind of a "I'm tired of thinking about this and not making much 
> progress for the amount of time I'm putting in question" but here it is: 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm trying to parse descriptions from HTML meta elements.  I can't use Soup 
> because there isn't a working GemStone port.  
> 
> I've got it to work with the structure:
> 
> 
> 
> and 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> but I'm running into instances of: 
> 
> 
> 
> and
> 
> 
> 
> 
> and am having trouble adapting my parsing code (such as it is). 
> 
> 
> The parsing code that addresses the first two cases is:
> 
> 
> 
> parseHtmlPageForDescription: htmlString
>   | startParser endParser ppStream descParser result text lower str 
> doubleQuoteIndex |
>   lower := 'escription' asParser.
>   startParser := '   endParser := '>' asParser.
>   ppStream := htmlString readStream asPetitStream.
>   descParser := ((#'any' asParser starLazy: startParser , lower)
> , (#'any' asParser starLazy: endParser)) ==> #'second'.
>   result := descParser parse: ppStream.
>   text := (result
> inject: (WriteStream on: String new)
> into: [ :stream :char | 
>   stream nextPut: char.
>   stream ])
> contents trimBoth.
>   str := text copyFrom: (text findString: 'content=') + 9 to: text size.
>   doubleQuoteIndex := 8 - ((str last: 7) indexOf: $").
>   ^ str copyFrom: 1 to: str size - doubleQuoteIndex
> 
> 
> I can't figure out how to change the startParser parser to accept the second 
> idiom.  And maybe there's a better approach altogether.  Anyway.  If anyone 
> has any ideas on different approaches I'd appreciate learning them.  
> 
> 
> Thanks for giving it some thought
> 
> Paul
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Breaking News

2017-04-02 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 

Hi,

Comments below ;-)


On 02/04/17 04:18, Ben Coman wrote:



On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Dimitris Chloupis 
mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Ironically and this is not April's Fool joke, Scratch has been
exploding in popularity

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/


https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/scratch/


So what Smalltalk has failed to achieve, Scratch is achieving it
now even though it was made with Smalltalk. Makes sense though,
many countries have been pushing coding into schools and Scratch
was always a No1 choice, its just lately this push has been a lot
more severe because of the severe lack of pro and amateur coders.


With a 12 month lag, you might say it fairly well follows the rise of 
RPi sales...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zWwpcckDEEVAhNH3y7JQGxxbjP42nUywPOzDWr1fH28/edit#gid=0
Now Pharo is aiming at a business market and maybe not kids,
but some of those kids have parents that in the tech industry,
and of course they will want to help their kid's with their projects.
So now you have a few hours attention from a decision maker
who otherwise wouldn't have time to poke something new with a barge pole.



On the path of passing from visual metaphors to coding I remember using 
Scratch, Etoys, and Bots Inc (in that order) with my undergrad students 
in 2006 and 2007. Now I'm using data activism to join visualization with 
code for grown ups. I think that this kind of bridges in two directions 
(from code to visuals and vice-versa) are important. In that sense, 
project like Phratch are a good way to introduce novices to programming 
and let them to deconstruct/traverse their way to underlying coding 
behind GUI without all the extra layers that now has Scratch, since its 
"migration to the web". Complementary ways of approaching the divide 
between coders and non coders are important to get more diversity, with 
kids, data scientist journalist and activists and others knowing the 
advantages of live coding moldability and others that are brought by the 
Pharo/Smalltalk Ecosystem.





On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 8:54 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
mailto:offray.l...@mutabit.com>> wrote:

Well... I was just trying to get myself unembarrassed... but
was not catch was not mine... next years I will let it run
wildly and help to it.


Of course :)
For a few minutes it *really* made my day also (until I searched and 
the other half of my brain caught up).




With all this post-true issues now is difficult for more me not to ask 
for sources... is more difficult to fall into Aprils fools, but asking 
for sources on a fake new on that day is kind of falling in the joke :-).


Cheers,

Offray