[Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

[Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)]

Hello,

I have been trying to see if its possible to click and choose several methods 
to be able to move them at the same time into another class but It seems its 
not possible. I have a test class that has around 1700 tests and the vm cannot 
run them all as it runs out of memory so I want to split them to smaller test 
classes but it seems ill have to move them one by one. Any ideas if its 
possible to move a selection at once ?

Thanks
Mohammad

Re: [Pharo-users] Log4s for Pharo

[Stéphane Ducasse]

thanks this is a good news :)

I was working on a minimal log frameworks so I will study the code.

Stef
On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:14 AM, Donald  wrote:

> Instantiations has open sourced its Log4s logging framework under the MIT 
> license.
> 
> It runs on Pharo 2.
> 
> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Log4s.html/Wiki
> 
> -- 
> Donald [|]
> 
> A bad day in [] is better than a good day in {}
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

[p...@highoctane.be]

Isn't drag & drop working ?



On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) <
mh...@mail.aub.edu> wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> ** **
>
> I have been trying to see if its possible to click and choose several
> methods to be able to move them at the same time into another class but It
> seems its not possible. I have a test class that has around 1700 tests and
> the vm cannot run them all as it runs out of memory so I want to split them
> to smaller test classes but it seems ill have to move them one by one. Any
> ideas if its possible to move a selection at once ?
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks
>
> Mohammad
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Log4s for Pharo

[Sean P. DeNigris]

dmacq wrote
> Instantiations has open sourced its Log4s logging framework under the 
> MIT license.
> 
> It runs on Pharo 2.

Thanks!



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Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

[Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)]

It is but cant I drag several tests at the same time?
I want to have every 200 tests in a class. Shall I do them one by one ?

From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of 
p...@highoctane.be
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:54 AM
To: Any question about pharo is welcome
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

Isn't drag & drop working ?

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) 
mailto:mh...@mail.aub.edu>> wrote:
Hello,

I have been trying to see if its possible to click and choose several methods 
to be able to move them at the same time into another class but It seems its 
not possible. I have a test class that has around 1700 tests and the vm cannot 
run them all as it runs out of memory so I want to split them to smaller test 
classes but it seems ill have to move them one by one. Any ideas if its 
possible to move a selection at once ?

Thanks
Mohammad

Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

[Camillo Bruni]

Drag n Drop on lists is a bit strange.
You have to start dragging with the last click.

SHIFT-CLICK
..
SHIFT-CLICK => continue dragging

BTW: this has only been added in Pharo 2.0...


On 2013-06-13, at 13:55, "Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)"  
wrote:

> It is but cant I drag several tests at the same time?
> I want to have every 200 tests in a class. Shall I do them one by one ?
> 
> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of 
> p...@highoctane.be
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:54 AM
> To: Any question about pharo is welcome
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class
> 
> Isn't drag & drop working ?
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) 
> mailto:mh...@mail.aub.edu>> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been trying to see if its possible to click and choose several methods 
> to be able to move them at the same time into another class but It seems its 
> not possible. I have a test class that has around 1700 tests and the vm 
> cannot run them all as it runs out of memory so I want to split them to 
> smaller test classes but it seems ill have to move them one by one. Any ideas 
> if its possible to move a selection at once ?
> 
> Thanks
> Mohammad
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

[Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)]

Okay im using 1.4.
Ill download 2.0. 

Thanks a lot :)

-Original Message-
From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of 
Camillo Bruni
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:00 PM
To: Any question about pharo is welcome
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

Drag n Drop on lists is a bit strange.
You have to start dragging with the last click.

SHIFT-CLICK
..
SHIFT-CLICK => continue dragging

BTW: this has only been added in Pharo 2.0...


On 2013-06-13, at 13:55, "Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)"  
wrote:

> It is but cant I drag several tests at the same time?
> I want to have every 200 tests in a class. Shall I do them one by one ?
> 
> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of 
> p...@highoctane.be
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:54 AM
> To: Any question about pharo is welcome
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class
> 
> Isn't drag & drop working ?
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) 
> mailto:mh...@mail.aub.edu>> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been trying to see if its possible to click and choose several methods 
> to be able to move them at the same time into another class but It seems its 
> not possible. I have a test class that has around 1700 tests and the vm 
> cannot run them all as it runs out of memory so I want to split them to 
> smaller test classes but it seems ill have to move them one by one. Any ideas 
> if its possible to move a selection at once ?
> 
> Thanks
> Mohammad
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

[Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)]

I downloaded it and I think I don't understand exactly how to do it. Its not 
like the usual click and then shift click and it will choose everything in 
between the two ?

-Original Message-
From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of 
Camillo Bruni
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:00 PM
To: Any question about pharo is welcome
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

Drag n Drop on lists is a bit strange.
You have to start dragging with the last click.

SHIFT-CLICK
..
SHIFT-CLICK => continue dragging

BTW: this has only been added in Pharo 2.0...


On 2013-06-13, at 13:55, "Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)"  
wrote:

> It is but cant I drag several tests at the same time?
> I want to have every 200 tests in a class. Shall I do them one by one ?
> 
> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of 
> p...@highoctane.be
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:54 AM
> To: Any question about pharo is welcome
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class
> 
> Isn't drag & drop working ?
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) 
> mailto:mh...@mail.aub.edu>> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been trying to see if its possible to click and choose several methods 
> to be able to move them at the same time into another class but It seems its 
> not possible. I have a test class that has around 1700 tests and the vm 
> cannot run them all as it runs out of memory so I want to split them to 
> smaller test classes but it seems ill have to move them one by one. Any ideas 
> if its possible to move a selection at once ?
> 
> Thanks
> Mohammad
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class

[p...@highoctane.be]

Make your life easy if your methods are in categories, drag&drop the
category instead of the individual methods.

Phil


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) <
mh...@mail.aub.edu> wrote:

> I downloaded it and I think I don't understand exactly how to do it. Its
> not like the usual click and then shift click and it will choose everything
> in between the two ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf
> Of Camillo Bruni
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 1:00 PM
> To: Any question about pharo is welcome
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class
>
> Drag n Drop on lists is a bit strange.
> You have to start dragging with the last click.
>
> SHIFT-CLICK
> ..
> SHIFT-CLICK => continue dragging
>
> BTW: this has only been added in Pharo 2.0...
>
>
> On 2013-06-13, at 13:55, "Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni)" <
> mh...@mail.aub.edu> wrote:
>
> > It is but cant I drag several tests at the same time?
> > I want to have every 200 tests in a class. Shall I do them one by one ?
> >
> > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On
> Behalf Of p...@highoctane.be
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:54 AM
> > To: Any question about pharo is welcome
> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Choosing multiple tests to move to new class
> >
> > Isn't drag & drop working ?
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Mohammad Al Houssami (Alumni) <
> mh...@mail.aub.edu> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been trying to see if its possible to click and choose several
> methods to be able to move them at the same time into another class but It
> seems its not possible. I have a test class that has around 1700 tests and
> the vm cannot run them all as it runs out of memory so I want to split them
> to smaller test classes but it seems ill have to move them one by one. Any
> ideas if its possible to move a selection at once ?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mohammad
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Pharo-users] Configuring where ZnServer serves files from

[Andy Burnett]

I needed to serve some (amber) files from a local host - it was just a
quick hack. I fired up the 2.0 one click image on my mac, and looked at the
instructions for running the server. I can see how it would work if I
installed it on Ubuntu, but I can't work out where my website's root folder
would be on the mac.  i tried the various folders inside the package, but
none worked.

Which brings me to the basic question, how do I configure the path for a
ZnServer - i am sure it is very simple, but I couldn't work it out.

Cheers
Andy

Re: [Pharo-users] Configuring where ZnServer serves files from

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

Hi Andy,

On 13 Jun 2013, at 17:10, Andy Burnett  wrote:

> I needed to serve some (amber) files from a local host - it was just a quick 
> hack. I fired up the 2.0 one click image on my mac, and looked at the 
> instructions for running the server. I can see how it would work if I 
> installed it on Ubuntu, but I can't work out where my website's root folder 
> would be on the mac.  i tried the various folders inside the package, but 
> none worked.
> 
> Which brings me to the basic question, how do I configure the path for a 
> ZnServer - i am sure it is very simple, but I couldn't work it out.
> 
> Cheers
> Andy

This should work:

(ZnServer defaultOn: 1701)
logToTranscript;
delegate: ((ZnStaticFileServerDelegate new) 
prefixFromString: 
'apple/macosx'; 
directory: 
'/Library/WebServer/Documents' asFileReference; 
yourself);
start.

ZnClient new get: 'http://localhost:1701/apple/macosx/'.

If there is no index.html in the directory, you'll need to refer to an actual 
file.

HTH,

Sven

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http://consortium.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

I am sorry, some 10x slowdown with vmLatest.

$ ./pharo-ui --version
3.9-7 #1 Fri May 31 13:43:31 CEST 2013 gcc 4.6.3
NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
/home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]



On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote:

> thanks for the insight. I opened an issue:
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10879
>
>
> can you try get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest to try out the "unstable" VM?
>
> On 2013-06-09, at 19:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
>
> > I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
> >
> > This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm) II
> X4
> > 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a  Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
> >
> > Using the vm from get.pharo.org/30+vm
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 99 101
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1455 1420
> >
> > Using the vm from ppa:pharo/stable
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1495 1518
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 11535
> 11156
> >
> > That is a 10x slowdown !
> >
> > Here are the VM details:
> >
> > $ ./pharo-ui -version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100
> > By: Esteban Lorenzano  Jenkins build #14535
> > Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 11:26:59
> > UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> > /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> >
> > $ pharo-vm-x --version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Thu Jun  6 11:05:55 UTC 2013 gcc 4.7.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
> > By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
> > Linux samarium 2.6.24-32-xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 14:30:40 UTC 2012 i686
> > athlon i686 GNU/Linux
> > plugin path: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/ [default: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/]
> >
> > One version seems older, but I don't know what changed inbetween them
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul DeBruicker 
> wrote:
> >
> >> And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu
> >> 13.04 64bit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote:
> >>> On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>  From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits
>  with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x.
> 
> 
>  Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware
>  was: 134ms
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was:
> >> 163ms
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a ubuntu 12,04 64bit virtualbox VM
>  was: 1918ms
> 
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a debian 6 32bit virtualbox VM was:
> >> 152 ms
> >>> Further research:
> >>> Pharo PPA VM, Ubuntu 13.04 64Bit:
> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 2230
> >>> CogVM from Eliot directly (
> >>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2732/):
> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 164
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>   Markus
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

[Guillermo Polito]

Hmm, unless there is a difference in compilation, then it is maybe the
check we added with Igor to handle correctly objects as methods. I'll put
this in my todo for the weekend :/.


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:

> I am sorry, some 10x slowdown with vmLatest.
>
> $ ./pharo-ui --version
> 3.9-7 #1 Fri May 31 13:43:31 CEST 2013 gcc 4.6.3
> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
>
> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
> By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>
> plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>
>> thanks for the insight. I opened an issue:
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10879
>>
>>
>> can you try get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest to try out the "unstable" VM?
>>
>> On 2013-06-09, at 19:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
>>
>> > I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
>> >
>> > This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm) II
>> X4
>> > 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a  Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
>> >
>> > Using the vm from get.pharo.org/30+vm
>> >
>> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 99 101
>> >
>> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1455 1420
>> >
>> > Using the vm from ppa:pharo/stable
>> >
>> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1495 1518
>> >
>> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 11535
>> 11156
>> >
>> > That is a 10x slowdown !
>> >
>> > Here are the VM details:
>> >
>> > $ ./pharo-ui -version
>> > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3
>> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
>> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
>> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
>> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
>> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
>> > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100
>> > By: Esteban Lorenzano  Jenkins build #14535
>> > Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 11:26:59
>> > UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
>> > /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
>> >
>> > $ pharo-vm-x --version
>> > 3.9-7 #1 Thu Jun  6 11:05:55 UTC 2013 gcc 4.7.3
>> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
>> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
>> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
>> > 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
>> > By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
>> > Linux samarium 2.6.24-32-xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 14:30:40 UTC 2012 i686
>> > athlon i686 GNU/Linux
>> > plugin path: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/ [default: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/]
>> >
>> > One version seems older, but I don't know what changed inbetween them
>> >
>> > Sven
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul DeBruicker 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu
>> >> 13.04 64bit.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote:
>> >>> On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>>  From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits
>>  with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x.
>> 
>> 
>>  Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware
>>  was: 134ms
>> 
>>  Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was:
>> >> 163ms
>> 
>>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a ubuntu 12,04 64bit virtualbox VM
>>  was: 1918ms
>> 
>> 
>>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a debian 6 32bit virtualbox VM was:
>> >> 152 ms
>> >>> Further research:
>> >>> Pharo PPA VM, Ubuntu 13.04 64Bit:
>> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 2230
>> >>> CogVM from Eliot directly (
>> >>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2732/):
>> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 164
>> >>>
>> >>> Kind regards,
>> >>>   Markus
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

[Guillermo Polito]

Wait, ppa:pharo/stable is version NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-
GuillermoPolito.19?

Sven, from your email I understood that the vm versions are in the same
order as the measures, is that so?

Guille


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Guillermo Polito <
guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmm, unless there is a difference in compilation, then it is maybe the
> check we added with Igor to handle correctly objects as methods. I'll put
> this in my todo for the weekend :/.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
>> I am sorry, some 10x slowdown with vmLatest.
>>
>> $ ./pharo-ui --version
>> 3.9-7 #1 Fri May 31 13:43:31 CEST 2013 gcc 4.6.3
>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
>>
>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
>> 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
>> By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
>>  Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
>> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>>
>> plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
>> /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote:
>>
>>> thanks for the insight. I opened an issue:
>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10879
>>>
>>>
>>> can you try get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest to try out the "unstable" VM?
>>>
>>> On 2013-06-09, at 19:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
>>>
>>> > I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
>>> >
>>> > This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm)
>>> II X4
>>> > 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a  Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
>>> >
>>> > Using the vm from get.pharo.org/30+vm
>>> >
>>> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 99 101
>>> >
>>> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1455
>>> 1420
>>> >
>>> > Using the vm from ppa:pharo/stable
>>> >
>>> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1495 1518
>>> >
>>> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 11535
>>> 11156
>>> >
>>> > That is a 10x slowdown !
>>> >
>>> > Here are the VM details:
>>> >
>>> > $ ./pharo-ui -version
>>> > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3
>>> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
>>> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
>>> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
>>> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
>>> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
>>> > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50
>>> +0100
>>> > By: Esteban Lorenzano  Jenkins build #14535
>>> > Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4
>>> 11:26:59
>>> > UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>> > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
>>> > /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
>>> >
>>> > $ pharo-vm-x --version
>>> > 3.9-7 #1 Thu Jun  6 11:05:55 UTC 2013 gcc 4.7.3
>>> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>>> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
>>> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>>> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
>>> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
>>> > 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08
>>> +0200
>>> > By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
>>> > Linux samarium 2.6.24-32-xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 14:30:40 UTC 2012 i686
>>> > athlon i686 GNU/Linux
>>> > plugin path: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/ [default: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/]
>>> >
>>> > One version seems older, but I don't know what changed inbetween them
>>> >
>>> > Sven
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul DeBruicker 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu
>>> >> 13.04 64bit.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote:
>>> >>> On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>>>  From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits
>>>  with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware
>>>  was: 134ms
>>> 
>>>  Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was:
>>> >> 163ms
>>> 
>>>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a ubuntu 12,04 64bit virtualbox VM
>>>  was: 1918ms
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a debian 6 32bit virtualbox VM
>>> was:
>>> >> 152 ms
>>> >>> Further research:
>>> >>> Pharo PPA VM, Ubuntu 13.04 64Bit:
>>> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 2230
>>> >>> CogVM from Eliot directly (
>>> >>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2732/):
>>> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifT

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

On 13 Jun 2013, at 22:05, Guillermo Polito  wrote:

> Hmm, unless there is a difference in compilation, then it is maybe the check 
> we added with Igor to handle correctly objects as methods. I'll put this in 
> my todo for the weekend :/.

Thx!

> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> I am sorry, some 10x slowdown with vmLatest.
> 
> $ ./pharo-ui --version
> 3.9-7 #1 Fri May 31 13:43:31 CEST 2013 gcc 4.6.3
> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: 
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: 
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> 
> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 
> 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200 By: 
> Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45 UTC 
> 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Camillo Bruni  wrote:
> thanks for the insight. I opened an issue: 
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10879
> 
> 
> can you try get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest to try out the "unstable" VM?
> 
> On 2013-06-09, at 19:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> 
> > I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
> >
> > This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm) II X4
> > 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a  Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
> >
> > Using the vm from get.pharo.org/30+vm
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 99 101
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1455 1420
> >
> > Using the vm from ppa:pharo/stable
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1495 1518
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 11535 11156
> >
> > That is a 10x slowdown !
> >
> > Here are the VM details:
> >
> > $ ./pharo-ui -version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100
> > By: Esteban Lorenzano  Jenkins build #14535
> > Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 11:26:59
> > UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> > /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> >
> > $ pharo-vm-x --version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Thu Jun  6 11:05:55 UTC 2013 gcc 4.7.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
> > By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
> > Linux samarium 2.6.24-32-xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 14:30:40 UTC 2012 i686
> > athlon i686 GNU/Linux
> > plugin path: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/ [default: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/]
> >
> > One version seems older, but I don't know what changed inbetween them
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul DeBruicker  wrote:
> >
> >> And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu
> >> 13.04 64bit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote:
> >>> On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>  From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits
>  with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x.
> 
> 
>  Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware
>  was: 134ms
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was:
> >> 163ms
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a ubuntu 12,04 64bit virtualbox VM
>  was: 1918ms
> 
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a debian 6 32bit virtualbox VM was:
> >> 152 ms
> >>> Further research:
> >>> Pharo PPA VM, Ubuntu 13.04 64Bit:
> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 2230
> >>> CogVM from Eliot directly (
> >>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2732/):
> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 164
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>   Markus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

On 13 Jun 2013, at 22:07, Guillermo Polito  wrote:

> Wait, ppa:pharo/stable is version NBCoInterpreter 
> NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19?
> 
> Sven, from your email I understood that the vm versions are in the same order 
> as the measures, is that so?

Yes they are: 

./pharo-ui from get.pharo.org/vm is fast (and older)

pharo-vm-x from pap:pharo/stable is slow (and newer)

./pharo-ui from get.pharo.org/vmLatest is also slow (and newer)

> Guille
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Guillermo Polito 
>  wrote:
> Hmm, unless there is a difference in compilation, then it is maybe the check 
> we added with Igor to handle correctly objects as methods. I'll put this in 
> my todo for the weekend :/.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> I am sorry, some 10x slowdown with vmLatest.
> 
> $ ./pharo-ui --version
> 3.9-7 #1 Fri May 31 13:43:31 CEST 2013 gcc 4.6.3
> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: 
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid: 
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> 
> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 
> 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200 By: 
> Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45 UTC 
> 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Camillo Bruni  wrote:
> thanks for the insight. I opened an issue: 
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10879
> 
> 
> can you try get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest to try out the "unstable" VM?
> 
> On 2013-06-09, at 19:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> 
> > I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
> >
> > This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm) II X4
> > 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a  Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
> >
> > Using the vm from get.pharo.org/30+vm
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 99 101
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1455 1420
> >
> > Using the vm from ppa:pharo/stable
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1495 1518
> >
> > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 11535 11156
> >
> > That is a 10x slowdown !
> >
> > Here are the VM details:
> >
> > $ ./pharo-ui -version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100
> > By: Esteban Lorenzano  Jenkins build #14535
> > Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 11:26:59
> > UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> > /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> >
> > $ pharo-vm-x --version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Thu Jun  6 11:05:55 UTC 2013 gcc 4.7.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
> > By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
> > Linux samarium 2.6.24-32-xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 14:30:40 UTC 2012 i686
> > athlon i686 GNU/Linux
> > plugin path: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/ [default: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/]
> >
> > One version seems older, but I don't know what changed inbetween them
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul DeBruicker  wrote:
> >
> >> And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu
> >> 13.04 64bit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote:
> >>> On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
>  From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits
>  with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x.
> 
> 
>  Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware
>  was: 134ms
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was:
> >> 163ms
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a ubuntu 12,04 64bit virtualbox VM
>  was: 1918ms
> 
> 
>  Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a debian 6 32bit virtualbox VM was:
> >> 152 ms
> >>> Further research:
> >>> Pharo PPA VM, Ubuntu 13.04 64Bit:
> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 2230
> >>> CogVM from Eliot directly (
> >>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2732/):
> >>> [SystemNavigation new allCal

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

[Guillermo Polito]

Ok, so besides the problem, It is strange to me that te ppa:stable yields
to the latest unstable :).


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:

>
> On 13 Jun 2013, at 22:07, Guillermo Polito 
> wrote:
>
> > Wait, ppa:pharo/stable is version NBCoInterpreter
> NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19?
> >
> > Sven, from your email I understood that the vm versions are in the same
> order as the measures, is that so?
>
> Yes they are:
>
> ./pharo-ui from get.pharo.org/vm is fast (and older)
>
> pharo-vm-x from pap:pharo/stable is slow (and newer)
>
> ./pharo-ui from get.pharo.org/vmLatest is also slow (and newer)
>
> > Guille
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Guillermo Polito <
> guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hmm, unless there is a difference in compilation, then it is maybe the
> check we added with Igor to handle correctly objects as methods. I'll put
> this in my todo for the weekend :/.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe 
> wrote:
> > I am sorry, some 10x slowdown with vmLatest.
> >
> > $ ./pharo-ui --version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Fri May 31 13:43:31 CEST 2013 gcc 4.6.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> >
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
> By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
> > Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> >
> > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Camillo Bruni 
> wrote:
> > thanks for the insight. I opened an issue:
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10879
> >
> >
> > can you try get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest to try out the "unstable" VM?
> >
> > On 2013-06-09, at 19:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> >
> > > I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
> > >
> > > This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm)
> II X4
> > > 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a  Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
> > >
> > > Using the vm from get.pharo.org/30+vm
> > >
> > > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 99 101
> > >
> > > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1455
> 1420
> > >
> > > Using the vm from ppa:pharo/stable
> > >
> > > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1495 1518
> > >
> > > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 11535
> 11156
> > >
> > > That is a 10x slowdown !
> > >
> > > Here are the VM details:
> > >
> > > $ ./pharo-ui -version
> > > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3
> > > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50
> +0100
> > > By: Esteban Lorenzano  Jenkins build #14535
> > > Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4
> 11:26:59
> > > UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> > > /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> > >
> > > $ pharo-vm-x --version
> > > 3.9-7 #1 Thu Jun  6 11:05:55 UTC 2013 gcc 4.7.3
> > > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > > 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08
> +0200
> > > By: Igor Stasenko  Jenkins build #14595
> > > Linux samarium 2.6.24-32-xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 14:30:40 UTC 2012 i686
> > > athlon i686 GNU/Linux
> > > plugin path: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/ [default: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/]
> > >
> > > One version seems older, but I don't know what changed inbetween them
> > >
> > > Sven
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul DeBruicker 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu
> > >> 13.04 64bit.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote:
> > >>> On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> >  From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits
> >  with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x.
> > 
> > 
> >  Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware
> >  was: 134ms
> > 
> >  Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was:
> > >> 163ms
> > 
> >  Using Pharo-2 linux all in