Ok, so besides the problem, It is strange to me that te ppa:stable yields
to the latest unstable :).


On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>wrote:

>
> On 13 Jun 2013, at 22:07, Guillermo Polito <guillermopol...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Wait, ppa:pharo/stable is version NBCoInterpreter
> NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19?
> >
> > Sven, from your email I understood that the vm versions are in the same
> order as the measures, is that so?
>
> Yes they are:
>
> ./pharo-ui from get.pharo.org/vm is fast (and older)
>
> pharo-vm-x from pap:pharo/stable is slow (and newer)
>
> ./pharo-ui from get.pharo.org/vmLatest is also slow (and newer)
>
> > Guille
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Guillermo Polito <
> guillermopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hmm, unless there is a difference in compilation, then it is maybe the
> check we added with Igor to handle correctly objects as methods. I'll put
> this in my todo for the weekend :/.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu>
> wrote:
> > I am sorry, some 10x slowdown with vmLatest.
> >
> > $ ./pharo-ui --version
> > 3.9-7 #1 Fri May 31 13:43:31 CEST 2013 gcc 4.6.3
> > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 31 2013
> >
> > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08 +0200
> By: Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> Jenkins build #14595
> > Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> >
> > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > thanks for the insight. I opened an issue:
> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10879
> >
> >
> > can you try get.pharo.org/30+vmLatest to try out the "unstable" VM?
> >
> > On 2013-06-09, at 19:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote:
> >
> > > I think that we do have a problem, and I think it is VM related.
> > >
> > > This is what I see on my Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit machine (AMD Athlon(tm)
> II X4
> > > 640, 4GB, AMD Radeon HD 7750) using a  Pharo 3.0 #30189 image.
> > >
> > > Using the vm from get.pharo.org/30+vm
> > >
> > > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 99 101
> > >
> > > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1455
> 1420
> > >
> > > Using the vm from ppa:pharo/stable
> > >
> > > [ SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 1495 1518
> > >
> > > [ SystemNavigation new browseAllCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun. 11535
> 11156
> > >
> > > That is a 10x slowdown !
> > >
> > > Here are the VM details:
> > >
> > > $ ./pharo-ui -version
> > > 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3
> > > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid:
> > > a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013
> > > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > > 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50
> +0100
> > > By: Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535
> > > Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4
> 11:26:59
> > > UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > > plugin path: /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/ [default:
> > > /home/sven/Pharo/pharo-vm/]
> > >
> > > $ pharo-vm-x --version
> > > 3.9-7 #1 Thu Jun  6 11:05:55 UTC 2013 gcc 4.7.3
> > > NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > > NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> > > acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 Jun  6 2013
> > > git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit:
> > > 0f562e0afe14e533470278943b5d65d42ea133c2 Date: 2013-05-30 16:38:08
> +0200
> > > By: Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> Jenkins build #14595
> > > Linux samarium 2.6.24-32-xen #1 SMP Thu Jul 12 14:30:40 UTC 2012 i686
> > > athlon i686 GNU/Linux
> > > plugin path: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/ [default: /usr/lib/pharo-vm/]
> > >
> > > One version seems older, but I don't know what changed inbetween them
> > >
> > > Sven
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> And the pharo2 linux all-in-one runs in 116ms on my hardware on Ubuntu
> > >> 13.04 64bit.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 06/07/2013 09:35 AM, Markus Fritsche wrote:
> > >>> On 07.06.2013 17:55, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> > >>>> From the below it seems to be something with running on linux 64bits
> > >>>> with a UI slows it down by a factor of 10x.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Command line per Camillo below on ubuntu 13.04 64bit on the hardware
> > >>>> was: 134ms
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Using Pharo-2 windows all in one on a windows xp virtualbox VM was:
> > >> 163ms
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a ubuntu 12,04 64bit virtualbox VM
> > >>>> was: 1918ms
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Using Pharo-2 linux all in one on a debian 6 32bit virtualbox VM
> was:
> > >> 152 ms
> > >>> Further research:
> > >>> Pharo PPA VM, Ubuntu 13.04 64Bit:
> > >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 2230
> > >>> CogVM from Eliot directly (
> > >>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2732/):
> > >>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 164
> > >>>
> > >>> Kind regards,
> > >>>   Markus
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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