Re: MX Repair recommendations - PLEA

2003-05-30 Thread Harold Owen
> Now who bought the SMC 200m f2.8*ED over at KEH? I was going to buy that! Oh
> well, you snooze... He who hesitates... First come... Opportunity knocks...

Despite my previous claim I have just remembered I was going to buy this
lens but changed my mind and went for the FA200mm f2.8 (classed as "Like
new minus") so I'm not the guilty person! 

They had quite a few 200mm lenses when I first looked but they are now
only listing three.

Harry



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Re: 2004 PUG Themes

2003-05-30 Thread Camdir


<< Ooooh! I could do that one - we have a safari park with all of those just
 outside town ...
  >>
I had the misfortune of attending such an 'attraction' recently. In the rain. 
What's attractive about a bunch of monkeys holding umbrellas and asking each 
other when the weather will improve?
 I did 'think' to pack a camera - unfortunately it was a Nikon D1 outfit 
minus the body - doh!

What a jerk

Kind regards

Peter



Re: Anyone got a good source for framing supplies

2003-05-30 Thread Herb Chong
the soldering and brazing is the corners. the back needs sealing too. front is 
somewhat better sealed because of glass.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:53
Subject: Re: Anyone got a good source for framing supplies


> Am I the only person on this list to have seen sealed metal frames.  The
> corners are welded or soldered or brazed shut, I don't know the process
> used.  I have seen such frames often in galleries.
> 
> I once saw a frame containing one of the great artworks of history, or
> perhaps it was the first known photograph (the one of the French farmyard?)
> but I don't remember exactly.  It was actually an outer frame, the work
> itself was in a more decorative frame inside it.  Not only was it
> hermetically sealed but it came with its own air-conditioner.  The frame was
> metal.




Re: 2004 PUG Themes

2003-05-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject: Re: 2004 PUG Themes




- unfortunately it was a Nikon D1 outfit 
minus the body - doh!

What a jerk

Kind regards

Peter

LOL Peter.
So far since owning the D1 i have forgotten,cards and batteries
but not the camera.LOL

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Re: Will Caesar go screwhead on us?

2003-05-30 Thread Camdir
Snakeskin LXen are s passe, don't you know? I am getting a Yuzen Kimono 
kit made. 

That is 'just beautiful'. :)

Peter



Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Bob Blakely
If you fix this problem, I favor a very, very small dot of JB weld (epoxy)
as I always have it around for many other purposes. It too requires that the
lens remain unassembled for a few days as with all glues and epoxies, but
after 24 hrs there is less out gassing and it will NEVER fail. In addition
to being useful to bind things together, this stuff can be used to form
parts and can be filed, sanded, milled, drilled and polished. I've used it
to bed the receivers of two of my rifles.

Still, I agree with Anthony. The A50/1.4 is an excellent lens with better
construction.

Regards,
Bob...
---
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and wants us to be happy"
   - Benjamin Franklin

From: "Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> The A50/1.7 has a common fault with its aperture ring that involves the
"A"
> button.  The button sits in a strip of spring steel that is anchored at
each
> end to the plastic of the aperture ring (by small rivets IIRC).  One of
the
> rivets sometimes fails causing the steel strip to stand proud at that end,
> which snags a recessed area of the ring's inner surface and prevents
> movement to apertures below f9.5 (again IIRC).  It happened twice to my
> A50/1.7, the first time it was sent out to repair, the second repair would
> have taken cumulative maintenance costs higher than the lens's original
> value so I decided to do a home repair.  If that failed I would have
binned
> it.  The repair was actually very simple but you have to be careful of the
> infamous "projectile balls" inside the lens mount.  If as in my case super
> glue is part of the process then you need to leave the whole lot open for
a
> few days so you don't get a filmy deposit on the glass.
>
> This is a powerful argument in favour of the A50/1.4, i.e. all metal
> construction.
>
> From: "Joe Wilensky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I believe there's a build quality issue with the SMC-A 50/1.7 that
> > doesn't exist even with the similar A 50/2 -- I probably read about
> > it here, and it happened with the A 50/1.7 I owned for a while. The
> > f-stop ring detents deteriorate in some way, I don't remember if it's
> > because of a gear or some plastic part. But mine worsened noticeably
> > while I had it; the aperture ring developing a stiff and uneven feel.
> > This issue doesn't exist with the M 50/1.7, and it doesn't exist with
> > the A 50/2 or the A 50/1.4. That build quality issue alone may be
> > reason enough to select a different lens, despite the A 50/1.7's fine
> > optical qualities.




All's quiet on the *ist front

2003-05-30 Thread Robert Soames Wetmore
It is a tribute to the importance of digital in Pentax's future that so 
little has been said on the list about the *ist (non-D, to be precise).  
Here we have a radically new camera design which is trickling out to 
magazines (how many read Herb Keppler's assessment?) and even into select 
stores.  Yet, so little discussion about it...

Even the astonishing news about the new SAFOX VIII has been discussed very 
little (which is the more surprising since I suppose it will feature in the 
D version as well).

What gives - no interest in film bodies?  Admittedly it will be positioned 
as a lower-middle class (like me!) item, but is anyone else happy to see 
Pentax at the technological lead in a price point for the first time since 
the PZ-1p?  Anyone planning on getting one?  Anyone eager for news of what 
is next in the series (such as a true PZ-1p successor and Maxxum 7 killer)?

Anyhow, I was thinking the *ist + 43/1.9 would make a neat little package.

Rob

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RE: Will Caesar go screwhead on us?

2003-05-30 Thread tom
Cesar is already a screwhead.

tv





Re: What do you do?

2003-05-30 Thread Keith Whaley
None of these suggestions made herein take into account how his WIFE
acted, when she saw she had spilled milk on his newly beloved book!
What might or should come as a result of that incautious action depends
totally on what her immediate reaction was.

That there should be some action is a given.
It cannot be ignored as tho' it never happened!
No mehitibal's "oh well. what the hell. toujours gai."

keith whaley

Steve Desjardins wrote:
> 
> You have to be understanding.  Accidents happen, and it's always more
> grief in the end for everyone if you take it out on your wife.  Look for
> another copy however, and be sure she knows the cost.  It's OK to
> encourage someone to be more careful.  ;-)
> 
> Steven Desjardins
> Department of Chemistry
> Washington and Lee University
> Lexington, VA 24450
> (540) 458-8873
> FAX: (540) 458-8878
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: MX Repair recommendations - PLEA

2003-05-30 Thread Harold Owen
> What's next Harry? I'm looking at the 100mm 2.8 and the 50mm 2.8 macro they
> have, maybe you should move first! :-) It will save me money!

That brought a big smile to my face.

Before making any other purchases I am waiting to see what additional
taxes I have to pay on the lens when it arrives here.

Firstly I have to pay import duty and VAT (Value added tax -17.5%), at
the moment I have budgeted an additional 30% on top of the price that I payed for the 
lens.

The new price for this lens in the UK is £1,299.99 ($2,148.44).

Harry

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RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread Leonard Paris
Are you going to have a chance to walk around the location before the shoot? 
 If so, have someone come along with a bit of authority so you can turn on 
the lights and make some readings ahead of time.
Heck he/she could even walk the runway for you so you could check your 
flash/lights, etc.  You might be able to plan, and reserve a spot for a 
slave (radio controlled) flash to supplement your on-camera flash.  
Actually, as many weddings as you have done, I know that you know the value 
of going over the ground ahead of time, too.  And a good checklist can't 
hurt, either.  Still preaching to the choir, but, if you do a first rate 
job, it will probably get you some paying assignments.  Getting a receipt 
for your estimated costs as proof of a donation is a darned good idea, too.  
I wish I'd have thought of that one.

Len
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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: interesting gig
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 01:28:00 -0400
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> tom,
>
> This sounds like a couple of bee's, the battery pack and some radio
> slaves...Fun, Fun!
Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to set them up.

I did a search and looked at some runway photos, and the lighting
seems to be all over the place. I saw a few where the lighting
appeared to be 2 stobes at 45 degrees and equal power, some where it
was mostly ambient, some with only on camera flash.
I guess it will depend on the layout of the place. I'm thinking
slightly directional lighting a bit off axis...I'm also thinking I can
pretty much determine where I get to stand. If I'm close enough I may
use the ttl flash with the IR transmitter so I can keep TTL. That way
I'm not tied too much to hitting spots.
Another option would be to use the AB1600 and just light up the whole
damned room.
tv





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RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Leonard Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Are you going to have a chance to walk around the location
> before the shoot?

I hope so. Probably.

>   If so, have someone come along with a bit of authority so
> you can turn on
> the lights and make some readings ahead of time.

ESPNZone is a big restaurant, which is busy most of the time. Maybe I
can get in there one morning.

I've been there before, and it's got a weird layout. Basically it's
got multiple levels, with a central opening in each level. I have to
talk to the director to find out how they plan to organize it.

>  Still preaching to the choir, but, if you do
> a first rate
> job, it will probably get you some paying assignments.

Yeah, that's why I'm doing it, in addition to the facts that it should
be fun and it's a good cause.

> I wish I'd have thought of that one.

Rittenhouse is no dummy. :)

tv






RE: MX Repair recommendations - PLEASE

2003-05-30 Thread Mike Ignatiev
Ok, I will be more specific about my KEH repairs experience (which happened about a 
month ago). My MX had two problems: 

1. lousy meter (inaccurate and drained batteries)
2. focusing -- what I saw in focus on the GG wasn't on the film. 

I have contacted them (i.e. KEH) and asked if they can take care of these. The person 
(I don't remember the name) answered that yes, sure. Along the way he speculated that 
focusing may be the lens' fault, but since it happens with *every* lens I own, I have 
convinced him otherwise.

After I had my camera back ($110 repair), I have found that the meter stopped working 
at shutter speeds < 1/4s. After I have checked the focus (shooting a ruler), I have 
found it off as well. So I wrote back, sent the camera back, got it again. The meter 
is fine, but the focus is still off (I shot with different lenses to be sure). 

The person I dealt with was polite but all my technical questions she refered to a 
mysterious Tech (capitalization's his), who apparently does speak english (explanation 
why the "Tech" cannot answer my questions himself). After 2 failed attempts, they 
offered the 3rd one. When I complained that USPS doesn't work for free, they offer to 
reimburse postage but not insurance. At this point I had had enough and told them what 
I think of the service in very straightforward language. After my demands, they have 
returned the money. So I am back at square one.

By the way, this is not the first time I ran in KEH incompetence. Some time ago I have 
been thinking about buying from them a lens, which had a permanent built in filter. I 
thought it was yellow, but decided to ask. After TWO WEEKS of email bouncing back and 
forth and referral to (again) some Tech (who's supposed to look at it), I was told 
it's blue. After the whole deal was over, I have found their old catalog where this 
lens was on a page inset, with text stating it's a yellow filter. Man, talk about 
people being color blind!

To be fair to them, the things I have actually bought from them were really great, and 
they accept returns without questions.

Mishka



Re: All's quiet on the *ist front

2003-05-30 Thread Roland Mabo
I believe that the reason for the near-silence about the *ist - is that it 
is a dissapointment for many current Pentax users. It is "just another" 
plastic budget camera, and many are awaiting news for a true flagship, a 
true professional camera that would make Canon and Nikon nervous. Something 
with metal, sealed against dust and moisture, full compatibility with older 
lenses, and with a more "classic" camera design. At least 4fps and 1/8000... 
And - of course - IS and USM.

But I see the *ist as a promise for greater things to come. At this stage, 
I'm not interrested in getting one. I await the true MZ-5n/MZ-3 successor. I 
might get one as a replacement for my broken MZ-10, but I might as well get 
a MZ-6 at a low price.

Best wishes
Roland
From: "Robert Soames Wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: All's quiet on the *ist front
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:01:43 -0400
It is a tribute to the importance of digital in Pentax's future that so 
little has been said on the list about the *ist (non-D, to be precise).  
Here we have a radically new camera design which is trickling out to 
magazines (how many read Herb Keppler's assessment?) and even into select 
stores.  Yet, so little discussion about it...

Even the astonishing news about the new SAFOX VIII has been discussed very 
little (which is the more surprising since I suppose it will feature in the 
D version as well).

What gives - no interest in film bodies?  Admittedly it will be positioned 
as a lower-middle class (like me!) item, but is anyone else happy to see 
Pentax at the technological lead in a price point for the first time since 
the PZ-1p?  Anyone planning on getting one?  Anyone eager for news of what 
is next in the series (such as a true PZ-1p successor and Maxxum 7 killer)?

Anyhow, I was thinking the *ist + 43/1.9 would make a neat little package.

Rob

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Toys on offer

2003-05-30 Thread Camdir
Not Friday but as I shall be on my way to sunny Bievres tomorrow now might be 
a good time:

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ol.com&completed=0&sort=2&since=-1&include=0&page=1&rows=25

Sadly I failed to organise tables at the show but if you see me shambling 
round with a snakeskin LX, do say hello.

Kind regards

Peter



RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread Len Paris


> > I wish I'd have thought of that one.
> 
> Rittenhouse is no dummy. :)
> 
> tv

I've shot a few charitable benefits in the past without ever thinking of
something like that. You're right, he's no dummy.

Len
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Teleconverter Question

2003-05-30 Thread Christopher Comer
Hello,
   I was wondering if anyone would like throw in a 
recommendation for a decent budget teleconverter.  I would 
like to use it with my smc-a f/2 50mm and try some macro 
work.  I know you get what you pay for and I'd like to know 
what to look for in the used market say around $50-$75.  
Thanks for your help.

-Chris



Re: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread T Rittenhouse
I do forget who told me about that it was a long time back, but I assure you
I did not come up with it all by my lonely.

There is a cravat though, it is subject to the hobby business tax rules.
That is if you aren't making a profit 2 out of 5 years you can only deduct
it against photo income.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: interesting gig


>
>
> > > I wish I'd have thought of that one.
> >
> > Rittenhouse is no dummy. :)
> >
> > tv
>
> I've shot a few charitable benefits in the past without ever thinking of
> something like that. You're right, he's no dummy.
>
> Len
> ---
>




Re: Teleconverter Question

2003-05-30 Thread Peter Jesser
I presume you are going to use this lens with bellows for macro work? You 
would probably be better off just using the 50 mm and bellows. A 2x 
teleconverter will turn your 50 mm lens into a 100 mm lens but it will not 
be a macro and the image quality will inevitably decline. It is the flat 
field and close focusing that makes a true macro. I don't know of any 
teleconverter that does that.

A close up filter is another option. Cheap and effective (depending on what 
you are doing), but you still don't get a flat field. A close up filter is 
not really a filter but an extra element (or group if they are a compound 
structure) which is added in front of your front lens element. You can also 
try using your existing lens with a reversing ring.

If you decide to get a teleconverter of any kind, remember that if it is a 
third party offering, a 7 element design should give a better result (and 
cost much more) than the 4 element designs. A Pentax teleconverter would 
probably be your best bet.

Peter
Brisbane


From: Christopher Comer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Teleconverter Question
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:07:08 -0400
Hello,
   I was wondering if anyone would like throw in a
recommendation for a decent budget teleconverter.  I would
like to use it with my smc-a f/2 50mm and try some macro
work.  I know you get what you pay for and I'd like to know
what to look for in the used market say around $50-$75.
Thanks for your help.
-Chris

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Re: All's quiet on the *ist front

2003-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 May 2003 at 13:01, Robert Soames Wetmore wrote:

> What gives - no interest in film bodies?  Admittedly it will be positioned as a
> lower-middle class (like me!) item, but is anyone else happy to see Pentax at
> the technological lead in a price point for the first time since the PZ-1p? 
> Anyone planning on getting one?  Anyone eager for news of what is next in the
> series (such as a true PZ-1p successor and Maxxum 7 killer)?

I've everything I need in a film camera with my MZ-S. I won't be putting a cent 
more into Pentax's pockets until they deliver a workable digital body. I see 
the *ist as simply another excuse to justify the diversion of engineering 
energies away from DSLR development (which they obviously have very little 
skill in).

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Daniel Liu
Thanks everyone, I think I'll wait and get the 1.4. It's not so much of 
a focusing issue for me, it's being able to get a decent shot off in a 
dark room without a tripod, so the 2.8 is out. Candid shots, remember? 
In the meantime, I'll stick with my f/2.

  --Daniel Liu
  "The toothbrush is an indispensable
  part of enjoying life. I brush my teeth
  every day. I have a wonderful time. I
  like my toothbrush. I was wont to get
  up early."




Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 May 2003 at 1:10, Anthony Farr wrote:

> The A50/1.7 has a common fault with its aperture ring that involves the "A"
> button.  The button sits in a strip of spring steel that is anchored at each end
> to the plastic of the aperture ring (by small rivets IIRC).  One of the rivets
> sometimes fails causing the steel strip to stand proud at that end, which snags
> a recessed area of the ring's inner surface and prevents movement to apertures
> below f9.5 (again IIRC).  It happened twice to my A50/1.7

I have also had this problem occur except in one of my cases the spring became 
completely disconnected, rotated then fouled the entire aperture ring 
mechanism. The "rivet" is actually a small thermoplastic projection which is 
simply melted and squashed in order to hold the metal spring, hardly adequate 
given how readily they fail. I repaired one with epoxy and another with a small 
screw, neither have failed again.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 May 2003 at 16:47, Mike Ignatiev wrote:

> you may also want to try a (cheap) rangefinder. the lack of mirror and bright
> viewfinder may buy you a couple of stops -- more than you'll ever get from slr,
> no matter how much money you throw into it.

And you'll probably also have more lost shots and failed compositions due to 
parallax error and un-expected flare.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Film reflectivity & TTL flash

2003-05-30 Thread Andre Langevin
http://www.markcassino.com/essays/ttlflash.htm

Mark, I found your article on TTL reflectivity of films that points 
an underexposure problem with Kodachrome and TTL flash.  My TTL flash 
photos with KR have been often a bit over saturated or almost perfect 
on stage where the black surrounding compensates quite a bit for the 
high film reflectivity.  Under the same circumstances I got 
overexposed Fujichrome slides (I don't remember which film exactly).

This must have been discussed at lenght a few times on the PDML, but 
is there any "table" available with reflectivity of current films?

Andre
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Bill & Charmi news

2003-05-30 Thread William Robb
We're approved!!!
It took a bit longer than we had hoped, but City Hall approved our
renovations today.
Yikes!!
Destruction starts on Monday, hopefully, we will be back in our house by mid
July.
Until then, we have a really big outdoor style house, with a courtyard, and
a lake and stream in the living room..
If you thought I was unreliable before..just wait...
and wait...
and wait...

Have a great summer!!
Bill




Re: Bill & Charmi news

2003-05-30 Thread T Rittenhouse
We do expect before and after photos. Have a good summer.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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> We're approved!!!
> It took a bit longer than we had hoped, but City Hall approved our
> renovations today.
> Yikes!!
> Destruction starts on Monday, hopefully, we will be back in our house by
mid
> July.
> Until then, we have a really big outdoor style house, with a courtyard,
and
> a lake and stream in the living room..
> If you thought I was unreliable before..just wait...
> and wait...
> and wait...
>
> Have a great summer!!
> Bill
>
>




Re: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread Steve Larson
Here`s a sample:

http://stevelarson.0catch.com/Fashion%20Show/Cristina%20Tight%20Bust%20(2).jpg

I used two bright lights that were on the whole time set up like this:




 O - 1000 Watt light


  --
-

   ME runway

  --
-

  O - 1000 Watt light

I had the luxury of telling
the models where to stand and how to turn to my assistant so he could take
a shot. I still think you should fly me out ;) If that link doesn`t work let
me know
and I`ll email the pic to you. If you use flash make sure you get a very
fast recycle
time. I used the AC adapter on the AF400T, it was recycling in TTL mode in
about
4 seconds. I used the flash on one camera for fill with the full body shot
because
the lights didn`t get out that far when the girls first walked onto the
runway.
If you can go and do a rehearsal and take some pics of someone on
the runway it would be very beneficial. Also find out how many models there
will be, then decide on how many shots you want of each model, so you can
figure on when to reload, is there going to be a short intermission so you
can reload?,
or how many cameras am I going to have around my neck?
 I would light up the whole room and forget flash if you can.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: interesting gig


> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >  I did a little fashion show at my daughters school and I
> > used two 1000 watt
> > lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I setup for a
> > full body shot
> > and
> > a tight bust shot.
>
> So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?
>
> tv
>
>
>
>



Re: Film reflectivity & TTL flash

2003-05-30 Thread Caveman
Andre Langevin wrote:
This must have been discussed at lenght a few times on the PDML, but is 
there any "table" available with reflectivity of current films?
I don't know about such table, and even if one existed, it would give 
you just a "starting point" for further experimenting.

What I know is that ISO speed is just a (usually good) starting point 
for your "calibration" of the camera - processing lab system. With an 
LX, film reflectivity  influences all my pics, flash or not... in the 
case of negative, I just don't bother (who can tell what a "correctly" 
exposed negative is, unless he does the printing himself ?). With slide, 
you just notice after the first roll of a new film that it's "a little 
dark" or "a little washed out", and next time you'll try a different ISO 
setting for that film. You'll never know if it was because of film 
reflectivity, your camera meter beeing a little off, or your lab using 
slightly tweaked processing parameters. You'll just know that with your 
"production chain", film brand X works best at ISO setting Y.

cheers,
caveman


Re: Bill & Charmi news

2003-05-30 Thread Caveman
Good luck ;-) If you get really desperate with all that mess, you can 
visit me in Montreal for a few days ;-)

William Robb wrote:
We're approved!!!
It took a bit longer than we had hoped, but City Hall approved our
renovations today.
Yikes!!
Destruction starts on Monday, hopefully, we will be back in our house by mid
July.
Until then, we have a really big outdoor style house, with a courtyard, and
a lake and stream in the living room..
If you thought I was unreliable before..just wait...
and wait...
and wait...
Have a great summer!!
Bill






Re: Teleconverter Question

2003-05-30 Thread Peter Alling
Vivitar Macro focusing teleconverter, you can find them on
e-bay regularly in both k and ka mount.
At 05:07 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Hello,
   I was wondering if anyone would like throw in a
recommendation for a decent budget teleconverter.  I would
like to use it with my smc-a f/2 50mm and try some macro
work.  I know you get what you pay for and I'd like to know
what to look for in the used market say around $50-$75.
Thanks for your help.
-Chris
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx


Vivitar 135/2.3 lens ?

2003-05-30 Thread Caveman
Hello, has anyone here used this ? (Vivitar series 1 135/2.3 close 
focusing) ? What is your opinion on this one ?

cheers,
caveman


Re: Vivitar 135/2.3 lens ?

2003-05-30 Thread Steve Larson
Marvelous in every respect.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:03 PM
Subject: Vivitar 135/2.3 lens ?


> Hello, has anyone here used this ? (Vivitar series 1 135/2.3 close 
> focusing) ? What is your opinion on this one ?
> 
> cheers,
> caveman
> 



RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Here`s a sample:
>
> http://stevelarson.0catch.com/Fashion%20Show/Cristina%20Tigh
> t%20Bust%20(2).jpg
>

Oh my god, it's my mom.

> I used two bright lights that were on the whole time set up
> like this:
>
>
>
>
>  O - 1000 Watt light
>
>
>
> --
> -
>
>ME runway
>
>
> --
> -
>
>   O - 1000 Watt light

So the reason the right side of her face is a little darker is because
the light on that side was a little further away?

I haven't decide if I want to totally even lighting or get a little
modeling.

>
> I had the luxury of telling
> the models where to stand and how to turn to my assistant
> so he could take
> a shot. I still think you should fly me out ;)

Ha! Christian is next in line if #11 doesn't want to do it.


> If you use flash make sure
> you get a very
> fast recycle
> time. I used the AC adapter on the AF400T, it was recycling
> in TTL mode in
> about
> 4 seconds.

I'll have either the AB plugged in or the on camera flash with a
turbo, so I think I'll be ok.

> is there going to be a short
> intermission so you
> can reload?,
> or how many cameras am I going to have around my neck?

I should have a 2nd 10D by then, each of my cards hold about 80
images. Swapping cards takes about 3 seconds.

>  I would light up the whole room and forget flash if you can.

Yeah, I guess the runway needs to be lit pretty well so people can see
the clothes, right? Maybe I won't need much flash.

Thanks for your help.

tv






RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread jerome

> Oh my god, it's my mom.

ROTFL!!! funniest thing I've heard all day.



Re: Film reflectivity & TTL flash

2003-05-30 Thread Mark Cassino
I'm not aware of a table that quantifies the results - though as I 
mentioned in the article just pulling out the fill leaders and running a 
Pz-1p over them in spot metering mode showed a wide range of 
reflectivity.  Wm Robb pointed out that the color cast of the film could 
have a disproportionate effect on the results as well - e.g. the green base 
of Velvia would tend to cause under-exposure when shooting mostly green 
subjects.

I experimented till I was confident with the Kodak emulsions, and then just 
stuck to them (Ectachrome, not Kodachrome.)  You'd have to do some testing 
with other films.

I have not checked to see if this is still an issue with P-TTL flash.  I 
suspect that it is not, since the TTL flash exposure is determined by the 
pre-flash.

- MCC



At 07:18 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, Andre Langevin wrote:

http://www.markcassino.com/essays/ttlflash.htm

Mark, I found your article on TTL reflectivity of films that points an 
underexposure problem with Kodachrome and TTL flash.  My TTL flash photos 
with KR have been often a bit over saturated or almost perfect on stage 
where the black surrounding compensates quite a bit for the high film 
reflectivity.  Under the same circumstances I got overexposed Fujichrome 
slides (I don't remember which film exactly).

This must have been discussed at lenght a few times on the PDML, but is 
there any "table" available with reflectivity of current films?


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Re: Teleconverter Question

2003-05-30 Thread Christopher Comer
Thanks everyone for your help.  I think I'll just save up a 
little money and hold off for nicer macro equipment (bellows) 
or the Pentax 100mm macro lens (the cheap one).  That being 
said, if I'm browsing ebay and see a vivitar macro 
teleconverter for an amazing deal, I'll grab that.  Enjoy the 
weekend...

-Chris




Re: Film reflectivity & TTL flash

2003-05-30 Thread Mark Cassino
At 09:08 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, Caveman wrote:

What I know is that ISO speed is just a (usually good) starting point for 
your "calibration" of the camera - processing lab system. With an LX, film 
reflectivity  influences all my pics, flash or not...
Actually, it would only influence shots taken at slower shutter speeds (I 
think 1/30th or slower - the manual does not say.)  For faster speeds, the 
LX determines exposure based on the dot-pattern on the shutter.

- MCC

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Kalamazoo, MI
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Re: Bill & Charmi news

2003-05-30 Thread Brendan
Isn't someone to visit Toronto 

--- Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good luck
;-) If you get really desperate with all
> that mess, you can 
> visit me in Montreal for a few days ;-)
> 
> William Robb wrote:
> > We're approved!!!
> > It took a bit longer than we had hoped, but City
> Hall approved our
> > renovations today.
> > Yikes!!
> > Destruction starts on Monday, hopefully, we will
> be back in our house by mid
> > July.
> > Until then, we have a really big outdoor style
> house, with a courtyard, and
> > a lake and stream in the living room..
> > If you thought I was unreliable before..just
> wait...
> > and wait...
> > and wait...
> > 
> > Have a great summer!!
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
>  

__ 
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca



Re: 50mm Lenses

2003-05-30 Thread Roland Mabo
I wrote:

The 1.4 performs way better at f/1.4 than the f/1.7 does. :-) :-) :-)
Alan Chan wrote:

Not the 2 A50/1.4 that I had. The A50/1.7 was noticably sharper at wide 
open. The 50/1.4 wasn't sharp until f4, similar to the FA*84/1.4.
But the 50 f/1.4 still performs better at f/1.4, because the f/1.7 doesn't 
have f/1.4... :-)

Best wishes
Roland
_
Coola downloads från adidas! http://www.msn.se/mobil/adidas


What a super Friday!!

2003-05-30 Thread Harold Owen
What a super day, early this morning I received three excellent 'M' type
lenses in the post, a 28mm f3.5, 35mm f2.8 and a 135mm f3.5 for use with
my recently acquired MX, the previous owner certainly took care of his
equipment.

Then an hour or so later a UPS delivery driver turns up with a 200mm
f2.8 FA lens sent from KEH in Atlanta, and the taxes I had to pay were
less than I thought. The lens is top notch, I can only describe it as
new.

I find it incredible that an item that left a store in Atlanta, Georgia
in the USA on the 28th May can arrive here in the UK at 0925hours today
Friday 30th May.

They say good things come in threes!  I have just received an email this
morning informing me that Pentax UK has despatched two *ist cameras to
the dealer from whom I have ordered an *ist,

They hope to receive the two cameras this morning and will despatch one
to me as soon as possible.

I think I will pop out and buy a lottery ticket!! 

Harry



-- 
Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: the first pentax screwmount shot on digital??????

2003-05-30 Thread Keith Whaley
Two comments:

The Jupiter-9 is a very nice portrait lens! Everything seems to have
come together well for that image...

It seems to me the Takumar 28mm lens shot must have been hand held, and
is therefore a poor example of what it could otherwise be. I initially
thought it might be a trick zoom effect, but now believe it was just
hand held, and the speed was too slow.

keith whaley

adphoto wrote:
> 
> http://www.desna-ua.com/m42sample/m42sample.html
> 
> scroll right down the bottom of the page
> and there it is



Re: What a super Friday!!

2003-05-30 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
Wow, what a day indeed :-) Congratulations!

> I think I will pop out and buy a lottery ticket!! 

You definitely should! I hope you have the time to test all this new
equipment :-)

Regards,
Lukasz

===
www.fotopolis.pl
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===
 internetowy magazyn o fotografii



RE: AF400T flash and other 6x7 ??

2003-05-30 Thread brooksdj
  Thanks Paul.
I don't do much macro(some though) and i just thought this format
would make a nice emlargment if if got something nice.:)
Now that you mention the 135 macro,i say one on ebay just the other day,and 
again,because
i'm new 
to the changable lens MF gear,was not sure of it.Thanks for the rcomendation of it. 
I'll
go back and take 
another look.
Any idea of its worth these days??and what its magnificartion ratio is.

Dave

> Hi Dave,
>
> If the budget will stretch a modest amount why not get a 135 macro? They
> are really cheap on ebay at the moment and are quite common too. You may
> still need the tubes if you are photographing bugs or small flowers.
> 
> Paul Ewins,
> Melbourne, Australia
> 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Also,i have noticed outer bayonet and inner bayonet extension
> tubes.Whats the difference,or what would be a good recommendation to get
> the 90mmf2.8 ls closer to the bugs and flowers. 
> 






RE: the first pentax screwmount shot on digital??????

2003-05-30 Thread J. C. O'Connell
It's nice to know that I'm not the only person
on the planet wanting to use M42 lenses ( especially
the Pentax Takumars ) on a DSLR.

While the noise performance of these pix are pretty
good ( at least as good as film ), the sharpness isnt
very impressive.  How big is the SD-9 sensor in Megapixels??


> adphoto wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.desna-ua.com/m42sample/m42sample.html
> > 
> > scroll right down the bottom of the page
> > and there it is
> 



Re: MPDML and Kodak HDC (was: Lens choices)

2003-05-30 Thread brooksdj
  Mark.
This is a link to my Usefilm portfolio.The Iris was shot with the A70-210 F4.I 
cannot remember the exact setting but i beleive it was fairly wide.
Just thought you might want to see a sample.

Other than the focus behing a tad loose for my tastes,i like the lens a lot.

Dave

 http://www.usefilm.com/browse.php?mode=port&data=12823
 

> At 10:24 PM 5/28/2003 -0400, Bill Sawyer wrote:
> >If you don't need autofocus, Mark, the old A 70-210 f4 might do the trick.
> 
> I'll keep my eyes peeled for one - though I sold off my manual focus kit a 
> while back.  The size and weight of an f4 zoom vs an f2.8 is pretty 
> remarkable - and if the f4 is made to be excellent wide open I'd veiw it as 
> an excellent compromise - with a few fast primes to round out the lens 
> selection.





Velvia 100

2003-05-30 Thread Mark Cassino
My lab guy gave me a sample roll of the new Velvia 100 yesterday.  I had 
heard it was coming - has anyone tried it or read much about it?  I'm 
assuming it is like Velvia, but only faster (duh) - but some comments I 
found when searching the net indicate it is supposed to be more saturated 
yet - sort of like the E100VS or even more...

- MCC
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Re: Velvia 100

2003-05-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 30.05.03 14:11, Mark Cassino at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My lab guy gave me a sample roll of the new Velvia 100 yesterday.  I had
> heard it was coming - has anyone tried it or read much about it?  I'm
> assuming it is like Velvia, but only faster (duh) - but some comments I
> found when searching the net indicate it is supposed to be more saturated
> yet - sort of like the E100VS or even more...
Fuji claims granularity RMS=8 - that's better than RMS=9 of older Velvia 50
and similar to Provia 100F.

P.S. We hope you will show us results from this new, very interesting film?
;-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek





good things come in threes

2003-05-30 Thread Clive evans
Harry
Why not buy three lotttery tickets?
Clive
Antibes
France



Re: Bill & Charmi news

2003-05-30 Thread Peter Alling
Ok, You win.

At 12:55 AM 5/30/2003 -0400, you wrote:
They obviously don't wear clothes. Tatoo is enough:

http://www3.sympatico.ca/vdonisa/tatoo1.jpg

cheers,
caveman
Peter Alling wrote:
It would be better if you had a photo of one of the bad girls wearing it.
http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/Mermaid.jpg
or not.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx