Re: Sound quality on PC
Hi Hamit. Super epic right enough if you could manage to juggle all the complexities in such a project, particularly with a visual impairment. But I suppose if one had the motivation, then why not. For me, managing the X Y module was difficult enough, haha. I was actually about to purchase an Olympus device, which Neil Ewers also tested and recommended. What that device had something like a limiter, wherein you could ask your subject to be as loud as he can be and the device prevents you accidentally going above that level. That would be a good function on the H6 as it's really quite difficult through headphones when you are beginning to exceed a good volume level. One thing that I wish the H6 had was a method of preventing the volume knobs being accidentally turned. Perhaps a stiff click motion to the switch so that the volume could only be adjusted deliberately. Also, I know it sounds quite crass, but an automatic function, wherein, once you have attached all your mic's and even a line in, the device does the rest for you, taking out the floor noise as well as limiting the session. Well finally, there is a vast difference between the older H4n and the H6. Just wait for the H7 or H8 and perhaps it will prove impossible to make a poor recording. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:52 AM Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC Well, you're welcome. You could also talk to Neal Ewers I seem to remember his email being neal.ew...@ravenswood.org when I last emailed him. He'll be a good source for WAV file questions. I just meantion Rick because of your question mainly dealing with Nero. OH how did I record the 24 bit files I burned to CD you ask? Well fun fact for anyone with an Olympus recorder, even the DM 420 which only did MP3 and WMA had a dirty little secrit. That was that it's a 24 bit sound card. So if in the USB type menue you set it to compisit and set it as your defalt recording device, now you can record in 96 KHZ 24 bit PCM WAV in stereo. What I'd love to try with a Zoom H6 like you now have and Neal Ewers has, is set it as the defalt recording device, hook 4 mikes to the back, get the front part with 2 XLRs and hook 2 more mikes then in SF Pro or I guess apparently now Gold wive will do this set it 2 5.1 channal surround and wala a surround sound recording. This is why the sadly way expensive Zoom F8 kind of interests me. With that if this idea worked you could even do 7.1 surround sound. So super epic!! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Logue Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:58 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC Hi Hamit. What you say cheers me up a great deal. I was beginning to regret paying out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs. Perhaps a newer version of Nero? I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line. I like Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, I did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a newer version Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll know more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you do compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better quality. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Logue Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC Hi again Hamit. I think that I may have seen the light! My Zoom H6 records in WAV format, 24 bit at 96Khz. So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file. I chopped it into tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files. Am I wrong Hamit, but can you burn a WAV file onto a CD? I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I converted each file to MP3, to see if that worked. Unfortunately,it didn't and the quality was not as good. I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards. Incidentally, Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS! The recordings play wonderful on my computer, but I had hoped to give the four singers a cd of there work. Does any of this make sence to you? Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular
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Re: Sound quality on PC
Cool man. Yeah the LS 100 is way cool. Dude if they did an H8 that would be so epic! 7.1 surround sound. an H7 would give you 6.1 surround. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 29, 2015, at 3:07 AM, Andy Logue wrote: > > Hi Hamit. > > Super epic right enough if you could manage to juggle all the complexities in > such a project, particularly with a visual impairment. But I suppose if one > had the motivation, then why not. For me, managing the X Y module was > difficult enough, haha. > > I was actually about to purchase an Olympus device, which Neil Ewers also > tested and recommended. What that device had something like a limiter, > wherein you could ask your subject to be as loud as he can be and the device > prevents you accidentally going above that level. That would be a good > function on the H6 as it's really quite difficult through headphones when you > are beginning to exceed a good volume level. One thing that I wish the H6 > had was a method of preventing the volume knobs being accidentally turned. > Perhaps a stiff click motion to the switch so that the volume could only be > adjusted deliberately. > > Also, I know it sounds quite crass, but an automatic function, wherein, once > you have attached all your mic's and even a line in, the device does the rest > for you, taking out the floor noise as well as limiting the session. > > Well finally, there is a vast difference between the older H4n and the H6. > Just wait for the H7 or H8 and perhaps it will prove impossible to make a > poor recording. > > Very best wishes. > Andy. > > > - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:52 AM > Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC > > >> Well, you're welcome. You could also talk to Neal Ewers I seem to remember >> his email being neal.ew...@ravenswood.org when I last emailed him. He'll be >> a good source for WAV file questions. I just meantion Rick because of your >> question mainly dealing with Nero. OH how did I record the 24 bit files I >> burned to CD you ask? Well fun fact for anyone with an Olympus recorder, >> even the DM 420 which only did MP3 and WMA had a dirty little secrit. That >> was that it's a 24 bit sound card. So if in the USB type menue you set it to >> compisit and set it as your defalt recording device, now you can record in >> 96 KHZ 24 bit PCM WAV in stereo. What I'd love to try with a Zoom H6 like >> you now have and Neal Ewers has, is set it as the defalt recording device, >> hook 4 mikes to the back, get the front part with 2 XLRs and hook 2 more >> mikes then in SF Pro or I guess apparently now Gold wive will do this set it >> 2 5.1 channal surround and wala a surround sound recording. This is why the >> sadly way expensive Zoom F8 kind of interests me. With that if this idea >> worked you could even do 7.1 surround sound. So super epic!! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy >> Logue >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:58 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC >> >> Hi Hamit. >> >> What you say cheers me up a great deal. I was beginning to regret paying >> out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs. Perhaps a newer >> version of Nero? I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line. I like >> Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything. >> >> Very best wishes. >> Andy. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Hamit Campos" >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM >> Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC >> >> >>> Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, >>> I >>> did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a >>> newer >>> version >>> Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll >>> know >>> more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very >>> strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you >>> do >>> compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better >>> quality. >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy >>> Logue >>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC >>> >>> Hi again Hamit. >>> >>> I think that I may have seen the light! My Zoom H6 records in WAV format, >>> 24 bit at 96Khz. So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file. I chopped it >>> into >>> tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files. Am I wrong Hamit, >>> but >>> can you burn a WAV file onto a CD? >>> >>> I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I >>> converted >>> each file to MP3, to see if that worked. Unfortunately,it didn't and the >>> quality was not as good. I'm not sure if it's worth recording
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Epic! Thanks man. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 29, 2015, at 2:48 AM, Andy Logue wrote: > > Hi again Hamit. > > That's a good idea. Below is a single track, which was part of my recording > session last Wednesday. It's a local band practice. During recording they > monitored through headphones and were astonished with the quality of what > they were hearing. > > I used the stereo X Y capsule with the wooly mic screan. > > A sighted friend kindly set up the recording volume to just below 12 db. > > In all the session lasted 3 hours and either because one of them stopped the > recording to listen, or the device starts a new file after an hour, I ended > up with 4 files. > > I copied them from the device via the usb and listened to them on Winamp. > Although they were clear, the volume was very low. So I edited each in > Goldwave Doubling the volume twice for each file. There was no compression > or limiter on. > > So here is the file for you to have some fun with. > > Sendspace link: > > https://www.sendspace.com/file/0ovgbz > > Very best wishes. > Andy. > - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:55 AM > Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC > > >> If it's not to much of a bother, and if you know how to use sendspeace or >> have a dropbox, would you be so kind as to record a little something >> something and sendspace or dropbox me it please? I've not heard true pro 96 >> KHZ 24 bit audio. I've basically gotten away with making 24 bit fies on >> stuff, and my Enspireon laptop does 24 bit but it's not exactly pro. I >> shouldn't think so anyways. But maybe I'm wrong. Thanks. Also I could then >> have a try at this CD thing my self too just to see. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy >> Logue >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:58 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC >> >> Hi Hamit. >> >> What you say cheers me up a great deal. I was beginning to regret paying >> out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs. Perhaps a newer >> version of Nero? I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line. I like >> Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything. >> >> Very best wishes. >> Andy. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Hamit Campos" >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM >> Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC >> >> >>> Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, >>> I >>> did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a >>> newer >>> version >>> Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll >>> know >>> more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very >>> strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you >>> do >>> compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better >>> quality. >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy >>> Logue >>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC >>> >>> Hi again Hamit. >>> >>> I think that I may have seen the light! My Zoom H6 records in WAV format, >>> 24 bit at 96Khz. So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file. I chopped it >>> into >>> tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files. Am I wrong Hamit, >>> but >>> can you burn a WAV file onto a CD? >>> >>> I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I >>> converted >>> each file to MP3, to see if that worked. Unfortunately,it didn't and the >>> quality was not as good. I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these >>> huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards. >>> Incidentally, >>> Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS! >>> >>> The recordings play wonderful on my computer, but I had hoped to give the >>> four singers a cd of there work. >>> >>> Does any of this make sence to you? >>> >>> Very best wishes. >>> Andy. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Hamit Campos" >>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:16 PM >>> Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC >>> >>> Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular old CD you play in a regular stereo? AKA a CDDA CD. Because when I did it I did it as a CDDA CD. So I may have had a different experience. Now, what are you trying to play it on? If on the PC than that's odd because apparently your pc can indeed handle 24 bit if you could edit the file. Here's another idea just for grins and giggles. Find the file. Then, just play it with Windows Media Player. If it chipmunks or doesn't work then it's the PC this maybe a question for Rick Harmon of the blind-
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Oh yeah the other cool thing about the LS 100 is that it talks. But it's a pro device. It has almost no hiss. Just like the Sound Devices recorders. Man I love the $6000 788-T. It's like Neal's 44-T but with 8 inputs. So again, 7.1 surround recording. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Logue Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC Hi Hamit. Super epic right enough if you could manage to juggle all the complexities in such a project, particularly with a visual impairment. But I suppose if one had the motivation, then why not. For me, managing the X Y module was difficult enough, haha. I was actually about to purchase an Olympus device, which Neil Ewers also tested and recommended. What that device had something like a limiter, wherein you could ask your subject to be as loud as he can be and the device prevents you accidentally going above that level. That would be a good function on the H6 as it's really quite difficult through headphones when you are beginning to exceed a good volume level. One thing that I wish the H6 had was a method of preventing the volume knobs being accidentally turned. Perhaps a stiff click motion to the switch so that the volume could only be adjusted deliberately. Also, I know it sounds quite crass, but an automatic function, wherein, once you have attached all your mic's and even a line in, the device does the rest for you, taking out the floor noise as well as limiting the session. Well finally, there is a vast difference between the older H4n and the H6. Just wait for the H7 or H8 and perhaps it will prove impossible to make a poor recording. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:52 AM Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC > Well, you're welcome. You could also talk to Neal Ewers I seem to remember > his email being neal.ew...@ravenswood.org when I last emailed him. He'll > be > a good source for WAV file questions. I just meantion Rick because of your > question mainly dealing with Nero. OH how did I record the 24 bit files I > burned to CD you ask? Well fun fact for anyone with an Olympus recorder, > even the DM 420 which only did MP3 and WMA had a dirty little secrit. That > was that it's a 24 bit sound card. So if in the USB type menue you set it > to > compisit and set it as your defalt recording device, now you can record in > 96 KHZ 24 bit PCM WAV in stereo. What I'd love to try with a Zoom H6 like > you now have and Neal Ewers has, is set it as the defalt recording device, > hook 4 mikes to the back, get the front part with 2 XLRs and hook 2 more > mikes then in SF Pro or I guess apparently now Gold wive will do this set > it > 2 5.1 channal surround and wala a surround sound recording. This is why > the > sadly way expensive Zoom F8 kind of interests me. With that if this idea > worked you could even do 7.1 surround sound. So super epic!! > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy > Logue > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:58 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC > > Hi Hamit. > > What you say cheers me up a great deal. I was beginning to regret paying > out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs. Perhaps a newer > version of Nero? I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line. I like > Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything. > > Very best wishes. > Andy. > - Original Message - > From: "Hamit Campos" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM > Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC > > >> Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, >> I >> did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a >> newer >> version >> Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll >> know >> more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very >> strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you >> do >> compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better >> quality. >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy >> Logue >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC >> >> Hi again Hamit. >> >> I think that I may have seen the light! My Zoom H6 records in WAV >> format, >> 24 bit at 96Khz. So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file. I chopped it >> into >> tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files. Am I wrong Hamit, >> but >> can you burn a WAV file onto a CD? >> >> I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I >> converted >> each file to MP3, to see if that worked. U
RE: Sound quality on PC
Just downloaded the file my friend. So anyways the thing about the file splitting. I think and think is a key word here ithink it can do that. Don't quote me on it since I've not really used one, but again Neal has 1 so he would know. But yeah man these things are so cool. That's why for recording at least why I've jumped ship on the blindness stuff. Like the Plextalks. Don't get me wrong the PTR2 was so epic for it's time, and would should and could be epic still if the company refreshed it. Remember it's still a 2006 device with silly limitations. My 2004 Pac Mate will axept any compact flash card you throw at it but not the PTR2. I actually as I think about it wander now if they are really silly limits at all and then again it could be just limits of the tech the company was able to Aford to put in the Plextalk. Remember too they are from Japan. But yeah I still have a PTR1 I don't use it much since 1 I don't make CDs any more, and 2 don't have a card it will tolerate. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Logue Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:49 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC Hi again Hamit. That's a good idea. Below is a single track, which was part of my recording session last Wednesday. It's a local band practice. During recording they monitored through headphones and were astonished with the quality of what they were hearing. I used the stereo X Y capsule with the wooly mic screan. A sighted friend kindly set up the recording volume to just below 12 db. In all the session lasted 3 hours and either because one of them stopped the recording to listen, or the device starts a new file after an hour, I ended up with 4 files. I copied them from the device via the usb and listened to them on Winamp. Although they were clear, the volume was very low. So I edited each in Goldwave Doubling the volume twice for each file. There was no compression or limiter on. So here is the file for you to have some fun with. Sendspace link: https://www.sendspace.com/file/0ovgbz Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Hamit Campos" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:55 AM Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC > If it's not to much of a bother, and if you know how to use sendspeace or > have a dropbox, would you be so kind as to record a little something > something and sendspace or dropbox me it please? I've not heard true pro > 96 > KHZ 24 bit audio. I've basically gotten away with making 24 bit fies on > stuff, and my Enspireon laptop does 24 bit but it's not exactly pro. I > shouldn't think so anyways. But maybe I'm wrong. Thanks. Also I could then > have a try at this CD thing my self too just to see. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy > Logue > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:58 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC > > Hi Hamit. > > What you say cheers me up a great deal. I was beginning to regret paying > out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs. Perhaps a newer > version of Nero? I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line. I like > Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything. > > Very best wishes. > Andy. > - Original Message - > From: "Hamit Campos" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM > Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC > > >> Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, >> I >> did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a >> newer >> version >> Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll >> know >> more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very >> strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you >> do >> compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better >> quality. >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy >> Logue >> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC >> >> Hi again Hamit. >> >> I think that I may have seen the light! My Zoom H6 records in WAV >> format, >> 24 bit at 96Khz. So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file. I chopped it >> into >> tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files. Am I wrong Hamit, >> but >> can you burn a WAV file onto a CD? >> >> I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I >> converted >> each file to MP3, to see if that worked. Unfortunately,it didn't and the >> quality was not as good. I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these >> huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards. >> Incidentally, >> Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS! >> >> The recordings play wonderful
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Hi to the person I've been talking to about the 24 bit file recording. I tried it with the latest Nero and it worked. I tried it as a UDF CD as Nero now calls Data CDs and as an Audio CD. Or the format of any CD you buy of your favorite singer at best buy or where ever and than play it in a boom box. So not sure how you were trying to burn it and what you tried to play it on but it worked.
