Re: Yamaha TD500 Tuner - DAB+ Sample

2013-08-03 Thread Colin Howard
Greetings,

I have now heard the other two samples and interesting, surprised how much
background hiss on the distant station, what kind of aerial did you use?


The Fareham  area of Southern England has been Colin 
Howard's home  ever since July 1981, only the Lord 
himself knows for how much longer this will remain true.

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Re: Yamaha TD500 Tuner - DAB+ Sample

2013-08-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Didn't use any special aerial and as I said, I'm not at all surprised at the 
background hiss on the long distance station, had computers and other devices 
running so really the tuner did a pretty good job.

On 03/08/2013, at 5:20 PM, Colin Howard  wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I have now heard the other two samples and interesting, surprised how much
> background hiss on the distant station, what kind of aerial did you use?
> 
> 
> The Fareham  area of Southern England has been Colin 
> Howard's home  ever since July 1981, only the Lord 
> himself knows for how much longer this will remain true.
> 
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RE: Where can I find out about Cricket, Australian Rules Football and Rugby, and where can I find streaming audio for these sports?

2013-08-03 Thread Stephen jolley
Hi Kevin,

A little addition to Robert's comprehensive outline.  You and others
interested can also find links from my page to ABC Grandstand under the 'ABC
Sport and other Events' heading.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/stephenjolley/livestreams

Regards,
Stephen
Stephen Jolley
Melbourne Australia
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Subject: Re: Where can I find out about Cricket, Australian Rules Football
and Rugby, and where can I find streaming audio for these sports?


Try

http://members.optusnet.com.au/stephenjolley/livestreams

Note that this is an Australian site so  most football matches will only be
heard between 1:00 am and 8:00 am on the east coast of the USA.

Note also that Steve refers to Rugby League as NRL  and there tends to be
multiple games at the same time and the ABC (Australian Broadcasting
Corporation) has 2 streams for each game.

International cricket can currently be heard from 6:00 am to 1:00 pm on the
east coast of the USA but as it is being played in England, the weather
might determine when or if there is any play on a particular day.

Australian Rules football may be heard between midnight and 10:00 am on the
east coast of the USA but be warned that this is a game whose rules and
terminology may be mystifying.  It is a game that you need to have actually
played to be able to understand what is going on.

For that matter, cricket is also a game that you actually have to have
played to appreciate the finer points of what is going on and what the
terminology, tactics and strategies mean.  Although it is not difficult to
appreciate the danger of a 5 ounce ball being bowled at you at 100 miles per
hour.  If you calculate how long it takes a ball travelling at 100 miles per
hour to cover 22 yards of a cricket patch, you will get some idea of how
little time a batsman has to react to a ball which could be going behind, in
front of or (if he is not careful) directly into the batsman's body.

If you are interested in a more general audio stream about sport and have
the program tapin radio browse through the Australian streams for ABC
grandstand which is the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's general sport
stream which covers all kinds of sports.

Bob Nelson



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Subject: Where can I find out about Cricket, Australian Rules Football and
Rugby, and where can I find streaming audio for these sports?


> Hi.
>
>
>
> I like all kinds of sports, and I'd like to learn more about Cricket.
> Australian Rules Football would be fun, as well as Rugby.  To make 
> this audio related, where can I find streams on Cricket, as well as 
> these other sports?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for help.
>
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
>
> kmi...@windstream.net
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Re: Yamaha TD500 Tuner - DAB+ Sample

2013-08-03 Thread Colin Howard
Dane,

do I understand rightly the D.A.B Plus station transmits a normal a.m signal
on the mf band and superimposes the d.a.b therefore a normal a.m set will
hear no signifficant difference, apart from the bandwidth being somewhat
greater?  What frequency was the d.a.b plus signal on?  What happens when a
signifficant distance from the source?  On normal a.m it decreases in level
during day and tends to fade at night, I wonder if d.a.b plus skips as does
a.m and what it sounds like?

I believe it is a great pity we went for the antequated system we have, as
it seems to me d.a.b plus has a good deal going for it.

I did hear a d.a.b plus signal back in 2004 when visiting New York, think
the station was on 770kHz or thereabouts, it was a.m during darkness but had
the d.a.b plus in the day.  I noticed the signal was noticeably wider and
had greater bleed-over, but I was only listening on a standard a.m-type
receiver.

 
The Fareham  area of Southern England has been Colin 
Howard's home  ever since July 1981, only the Lord 
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Re: Yamaha TD500 Tuner - DAB+ Sample

2013-08-03 Thread Colin Howard
Greetings,

Dane, off-topic but I must say it!!

In a couple of hours time, plan to listen to our gallant chaps trying to
score without losing more wickets!  Strange game cricket eh!  I don't like a
game which is one-sided, I love it when there are three overs to go, forty
runs to get, two wickets to fall!!

Weather prospects seem a little dodgy, maybe some showers.  Here in Southern
Hampshire, some two hundred plus miles from Manchester, we had a lovely day
Friday until a slight shower late afternoon then overnight a thunder storm
but not really a lot of rain.  Temperature at present is around 22C, sunny,
a little breezy.



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re cricket podcast

2013-08-03 Thread brian parker
Hi, this is to thank those of you who tried to help me with this. i 
am not doing very well with it yet, but will keep trying. colin, i 
don't know whether i thank you for that link you sent me, where one 
changes the date at the end. well, i have tried it, and it works. 
thanks again, brian.



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re cricket podcast

2013-08-03 Thread brian parker
Hi, i have got there at alast. thanks again to colin and ray. 



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Digital recorder with simple cassette features?

2013-08-03 Thread Dave Scrimenti
Does anyone know of a good-sounding digital recorder that has the simple 
features of a cheap cassette recorder such as overwrite and append? I have an 
Olympus LS7 which makes fine recordings, but every time you hit record, you 
start a new recording. Unbelievably, there's no way to append, overwrite, or 
insert in to an existing recording. The only Olympus models that have these 
obvious and necessary features are on their dictation machines, which 
unfortunately only record in a highly compressed format. I tried the Bookport 
DT, but it was so slow in its responsiveness as to be almost unusable. If they 
improve the processing power, it would be great. 
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Re: Digital recorder with simple cassette features?

2013-08-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
That sort of feature - overighting, inserting or appending has never worried me 
as you've never ever been able to do nothing but Overight with a conventional 
cassette recorder anyway.

If anyone can stretch their memory back that far  they'll know that you 
had a length of tape to record on, you did your recording and if the end of the 
tape was reached then you had 2 choices, turn the tape over and record on the 
other 2 tracks of the cassette or rewind the tape and overight what you'd 
already recorded so the fact that digital recorders start a new file each time 
a new recording is started is nothing short of a feature sent from heaven as 
you run no risk of wiping what yo've already recorded and the only limit you 
have to worry about is just how much room in memory you have, I don't even 
think Minidisc recorders offered an "Insert" or "Append" function, it was up to 
the user with those recorders to combine or divide tracks where appropriate and 
manipulate them thus.

So - given all that - let's see how you can use the present situation to your 
advantage.

I use a Zoom H1 and one of the functions of that recorder is marking 
"On-The-Fly", if you're recording you can insert a mark into the recording thus 
when you load the recording into an editor such as Goldwave or Amadeus Pro you 
can go to the markers you've made in your recording.

Each new recording starts a new file so just use your sound editor on your 
computer to load where appropriate, make new files with your editor and import 
the files from your recorder adding them where necessary, appending where 
necessary and inserting where necessary.

As for cheap digital audio recorders? Well I've had my Zoom H1 for 3 years and 
its still going strong, simple operation, no menu system and cheap at under 
$100.00 though you may like to purchase the accessary pack and I think that 
costs around $50.00 extra but well worth it.

On 04/08/2013, at 3:46 AM, Dave Scrimenti  wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good-sounding digital recorder that has the simple 
> features of a cheap cassette recorder such as overwrite and append? I have an 
> Olympus LS7 which makes fine recordings, but every time you hit record, you 
> start a new recording. Unbelievably, there's no way to append, overwrite, or 
> insert in to an existing recording. The only Olympus models that have these 
> obvious and necessary features are on their dictation machines, which 
> unfortunately only record in a highly compressed format. I tried the Bookport 
> DT, but it was so slow in its responsiveness as to be almost unusable. If 
> they improve the processing power, it would be great. 
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Re: Digital recorder with simple cassette features?

2013-08-03 Thread Dave Scrimenti
1st, you could both overwrite and append on cassettes. The only thing you 
couldn't do is insert. 2nd, Olympus, Sony, and all makers of dictation 
recorders know how valuable these features are, to easily correct mistakes 
on the fly etc. As do the makers of professional music recorders for 
computers, since Sonar, ProTools and every other one of them right down to 
simple ones like Total Recorder have these features. To take a bunch of 
separate files and edit them all together on a PC afterwords would be 
unacceptable both in a dictation or a professional audio situation. That's 
why these functions exist. In fact, Olympus considers these capabilities 
essential on a dictation recorder. So I asked why they weren't available on 
any of their high-quality audio models. And they just said: we don't think 
you need them there. Again, the question was: do you know of any digital 
recorders with insert, append, and overwrite functions that are not using 
the highly compressed dictation formats? If you do, please respond, even if 
you think these functions are useless. If you don't, there's no need to give 
an opinion on whether or not you think one needs these features. It's like 
someone asking you if you know of a good Italian restaurant, and you answer 
with, I think you should eat Chinese.
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From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorder with simple cassette features?


That sort of feature - overighting, inserting or appending has never 
worried me as you've never ever been able to do nothing but Overight with 
a conventional cassette recorder anyway.


If anyone can stretch their memory back that far  they'll know that 
you had a length of tape to record on, you did your recording and if the 
end of the tape was reached then you had 2 choices, turn the tape over and 
record on the other 2 tracks of the cassette or rewind the tape and 
overight what you'd already recorded so the fact that digital recorders 
start a new file each time a new recording is started is nothing short of 
a feature sent from heaven as you run no risk of wiping what yo've already 
recorded and the only limit you have to worry about is just how much room 
in memory you have, I don't even think Minidisc recorders offered an 
"Insert" or "Append" function, it was up to the user with those recorders 
to combine or divide tracks where appropriate and manipulate them thus.


So - given all that - let's see how you can use the present situation to 
your advantage.


I use a Zoom H1 and one of the functions of that recorder is marking 
"On-The-Fly", if you're recording you can insert a mark into the recording 
thus when you load the recording into an editor such as Goldwave or 
Amadeus Pro you can go to the markers you've made in your recording.


Each new recording starts a new file so just use your sound editor on your 
computer to load where appropriate, make new files with your editor and 
import the files from your recorder adding them where necessary, appending 
where necessary and inserting where necessary.


As for cheap digital audio recorders? Well I've had my Zoom H1 for 3 years 
and its still going strong, simple operation, no menu system and cheap at 
under $100.00 though you may like to purchase the accessary pack and I 
think that costs around $50.00 extra but well worth it.


On 04/08/2013, at 3:46 AM, Dave Scrimenti  wrote:

Does anyone know of a good-sounding digital recorder that has the simple 
features of a cheap cassette recorder such as overwrite and append? I 
have an Olympus LS7 which makes fine recordings, but every time you hit 
record, you start a new recording. Unbelievably, there's no way to 
append, overwrite, or insert in to an existing recording. The only 
Olympus models that have these obvious and necessary features are on 
their dictation machines, which unfortunately only record in a highly 
compressed format. I tried the Bookport DT, but it was so slow in its 
responsiveness as to be almost unusable. If they improve the processing 
power, it would be great.

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Re: Digital recorder with simple cassette features?

2013-08-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well if you know so much about it all then what on earth did you waste 
our time for in the first place .


You will find that many of those in the world of business who use 
dictation in fact use audio editors to edit the result of their work, 
you only have to look on various product web sites for dictation 
equipment and software.


There are many people who would use say a Zoom H1 recorder for instance 
to record their dictation and then either do 1 of 2 things, feed the 
audio into a "Translator" or edit the audio thus illiminating unwanted 
portions such as coughs, dictation errors etc.


In my previous message I described how a user could "Mark" a position 
whilst recording, this is similar to what users of cassette dictation 
machines could do, if memory serves me correctly the term was known as 
"Indexing".


Our local Newspaper features a column called Bleeding Edge and this 
column has reported on the subject of Dictation many times over the past 
2 years.


Now be honest with yourself David, how can you "Append" to a cassette, 
just think about it for a moment, you only have a length of tape to use 
so if there's already material recorded on a tape when you continue 
recording or record from a certain point this will be erased.



On 4/08/2013 9:08 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
1st, you could both overwrite and append on cassettes. The only thing 
you couldn't do is insert. 2nd, Olympus, Sony, and all makers of 
dictation recorders know how valuable these features are, to easily 
correct mistakes on the fly etc. As do the makers of professional 
music recorders for computers, since Sonar, ProTools and every other 
one of them right down to simple ones like Total Recorder have these 
features. To take a bunch of separate files and edit them all together 
on a PC afterwords would be unacceptable both in a dictation or a 
professional audio situation. That's why these functions exist. In 
fact, Olympus considers these capabilities essential on a dictation 
recorder. So I asked why they weren't available on any of their 
high-quality audio models. And they just said: we don't think you need 
them there. Again, the question was: do you know of any digital 
recorders with insert, append, and overwrite functions that are not 
using the highly compressed dictation formats? If you do, please 
respond, even if you think these functions are useless. If you don't, 
there's no need to give an opinion on whether or not you think one 
needs these features. It's like someone asking you if you know of a 
good Italian restaurant, and you answer with, I think you should eat 
Chinese.
- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorder with simple cassette features?


That sort of feature - overighting, inserting or appending has never 
worried me as you've never ever been able to do nothing but Overight 
with a conventional cassette recorder anyway.


If anyone can stretch their memory back that far  they'll know 
that you had a length of tape to record on, you did your recording 
and if the end of the tape was reached then you had 2 choices, turn 
the tape over and record on the other 2 tracks of the cassette or 
rewind the tape and overight what you'd already recorded so the fact 
that digital recorders start a new file each time a new recording is 
started is nothing short of a feature sent from heaven as you run no 
risk of wiping what yo've already recorded and the only limit you 
have to worry about is just how much room in memory you have, I don't 
even think Minidisc recorders offered an "Insert" or "Append" 
function, it was up to the user with those recorders to combine or 
divide tracks where appropriate and manipulate them thus.


So - given all that - let's see how you can use the present situation 
to your advantage.


I use a Zoom H1 and one of the functions of that recorder is marking 
"On-The-Fly", if you're recording you can insert a mark into the 
recording thus when you load the recording into an editor such as 
Goldwave or Amadeus Pro you can go to the markers you've made in your 
recording.


Each new recording starts a new file so just use your sound editor on 
your computer to load where appropriate, make new files with your 
editor and import the files from your recorder adding them where 
necessary, appending where necessary and inserting where necessary.


As for cheap digital audio recorders? Well I've had my Zoom H1 for 3 
years and its still going strong, simple operation, no menu system 
and cheap at under $100.00 though you may like to purchase the 
accessary pack and I think that costs around $50.00 extra but well 
worth it.


On 04/08/2013, at 3:46 AM, Dave Scrimenti  wrote:

Does anyone know of a good-sounding digital recorder that has the 
simple features of a cheap cassette recorder such as overwrite and 
append? I have an Olympus LS7 which makes fine recordings, but every 
tim

Re: Digital recorder with simple cassette features?

2013-08-03 Thread Dave Scrimenti
Well I asked because I can't find what I'm looking for, and thought someone 
else might have found something I missed. All I'm finding are either 
high-quality recorders like my Olympus LS7 or your Zoom H1 that have none of 
these editing features, or dictation recorders that have all these features, 
but very poor sound quality. Is it really that unthinkable that someone who 
wants dictation editing features might also want good sound? I did look on 
some dictation equipment web sites, and one of them perfectly described what 
a dictation recorder should be.
Digital Dictation Recorders are especially well-suited for physicians, 
attorneys, investigators, and business users where it's a requirement to 
accurately construct sentences and paragraphs as you go, for later 
transcription. If you make a mistake, merely rewind, and play forward to 
that point, then hit Record
and continue! A true "dictation" recorder lets you listen to what you 
dictated, rewind and replay it, and make any changes to it as you go ("on 
the fly editing"). You can insert a new sentence in the middle of an old 
one, overwrite from a certain point onward, or go back to a dictation 
created earlier in the day and modify or append to it. Digital dictation 
recorders are perfect for dictating correspondence, reports, observations, 
or any type of dictation needs. ("
Unfortunately, all the recorders they sell only record in highly compressed 
formats. I do agree that index marks are very helpful if you have to do the 
editing  later on the computer, but it's so much easier to edit right as 
you're recording. However, if what I want simply doesn't exist, can someone 
suggest a good, accessible dictation recorder that has these features? 
Perhaps the sound quality will be acceptable for some applications, and I 
can use my LS7 for the rest. And by the way, you can easily append to a 
cassette recording, provided the recording didn't go all the way to the end 
of the side. Just go to the end of the recording, and continue from there. 
I've often added new material to a cassette recording I made previously.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorder with simple cassette features?


Well if you know so much about it all then what on earth did you waste our 
time for in the first place .


You will find that many of those in the world of business who use 
dictation in fact use audio editors to edit the result of their work, you 
only have to look on various product web sites for dictation equipment and 
software.


There are many people who would use say a Zoom H1 recorder for instance to 
record their dictation and then either do 1 of 2 things, feed the audio 
into a "Translator" or edit the audio thus illiminating unwanted portions 
such as coughs, dictation errors etc.


In my previous message I described how a user could "Mark" a position 
whilst recording, this is similar to what users of cassette dictation 
machines could do, if memory serves me correctly the term was known as 
"Indexing".


Our local Newspaper features a column called Bleeding Edge and this column 
has reported on the subject of Dictation many times over the past 2 years.


Now be honest with yourself David, how can you "Append" to a cassette, 
just think about it for a moment, you only have a length of tape to use so 
if there's already material recorded on a tape when you continue recording 
or record from a certain point this will be erased.



On 4/08/2013 9:08 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
1st, you could both overwrite and append on cassettes. The only thing you 
couldn't do is insert. 2nd, Olympus, Sony, and all makers of dictation 
recorders know how valuable these features are, to easily correct 
mistakes on the fly etc. As do the makers of professional music recorders 
for computers, since Sonar, ProTools and every other one of them right 
down to simple ones like Total Recorder have these features. To take a 
bunch of separate files and edit them all together on a PC afterwords 
would be unacceptable both in a dictation or a professional audio 
situation. That's why these functions exist. In fact, Olympus considers 
these capabilities essential on a dictation recorder. So I asked why they 
weren't available on any of their high-quality audio models. And they 
just said: we don't think you need them there. Again, the question was: 
do you know of any digital recorders with insert, append, and overwrite 
functions that are not using the highly compressed dictation formats? If 
you do, please respond, even if you think these functions are useless. If 
you don't, there's no need to give an opinion on whether or not you think 
one needs these features. It's like someone asking you if you know of a 
good Italian restaurant, and you answer with, I think you should eat 
Chinese.
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To: "PC Audio Discussion Li