Well if you know so much about it all then what on earth did you waste
our time for in the first place <smile>.
You will find that many of those in the world of business who use
dictation in fact use audio editors to edit the result of their work,
you only have to look on various product web sites for dictation
equipment and software.
There are many people who would use say a Zoom H1 recorder for instance
to record their dictation and then either do 1 of 2 things, feed the
audio into a "Translator" or edit the audio thus illiminating unwanted
portions such as coughs, dictation errors etc.
In my previous message I described how a user could "Mark" a position
whilst recording, this is similar to what users of cassette dictation
machines could do, if memory serves me correctly the term was known as
"Indexing".
Our local Newspaper features a column called Bleeding Edge and this
column has reported on the subject of Dictation many times over the past
2 years.
Now be honest with yourself David, how can you "Append" to a cassette,
just think about it for a moment, you only have a length of tape to use
so if there's already material recorded on a tape when you continue
recording or record from a certain point this will be erased.
On 4/08/2013 9:08 AM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
1st, you could both overwrite and append on cassettes. The only thing
you couldn't do is insert. 2nd, Olympus, Sony, and all makers of
dictation recorders know how valuable these features are, to easily
correct mistakes on the fly etc. As do the makers of professional
music recorders for computers, since Sonar, ProTools and every other
one of them right down to simple ones like Total Recorder have these
features. To take a bunch of separate files and edit them all together
on a PC afterwords would be unacceptable both in a dictation or a
professional audio situation. That's why these functions exist. In
fact, Olympus considers these capabilities essential on a dictation
recorder. So I asked why they weren't available on any of their
high-quality audio models. And they just said: we don't think you need
them there. Again, the question was: do you know of any digital
recorders with insert, append, and overwrite functions that are not
using the highly compressed dictation formats? If you do, please
respond, even if you think these functions are useless. If you don't,
there's no need to give an opinion on whether or not you think one
needs these features. It's like someone asking you if you know of a
good Italian restaurant, and you answer with, I think you should eat
Chinese.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Digital recorder with simple cassette features?
That sort of feature - overighting, inserting or appending has never
worried me as you've never ever been able to do nothing but Overight
with a conventional cassette recorder anyway.
If anyone can stretch their memory back that far <smile> they'll know
that you had a length of tape to record on, you did your recording
and if the end of the tape was reached then you had 2 choices, turn
the tape over and record on the other 2 tracks of the cassette or
rewind the tape and overight what you'd already recorded so the fact
that digital recorders start a new file each time a new recording is
started is nothing short of a feature sent from heaven as you run no
risk of wiping what yo've already recorded and the only limit you
have to worry about is just how much room in memory you have, I don't
even think Minidisc recorders offered an "Insert" or "Append"
function, it was up to the user with those recorders to combine or
divide tracks where appropriate and manipulate them thus.
So - given all that - let's see how you can use the present situation
to your advantage.
I use a Zoom H1 and one of the functions of that recorder is marking
"On-The-Fly", if you're recording you can insert a mark into the
recording thus when you load the recording into an editor such as
Goldwave or Amadeus Pro you can go to the markers you've made in your
recording.
Each new recording starts a new file so just use your sound editor on
your computer to load where appropriate, make new files with your
editor and import the files from your recorder adding them where
necessary, appending where necessary and inserting where necessary.
As for cheap digital audio recorders? Well I've had my Zoom H1 for 3
years and its still going strong, simple operation, no menu system
and cheap at under $100.00 though you may like to purchase the
accessary pack and I think that costs around $50.00 extra but well
worth it.
On 04/08/2013, at 3:46 AM, Dave Scrimenti <dscri...@icloud.com> wrote:
Does anyone know of a good-sounding digital recorder that has the
simple features of a cheap cassette recorder such as overwrite and
append? I have an Olympus LS7 which makes fine recordings, but every
time you hit record, you start a new recording. Unbelievably,
there's no way to append, overwrite, or insert in to an existing
recording. The only Olympus models that have these obvious and
necessary features are on their dictation machines, which
unfortunately only record in a highly compressed format. I tried the
Bookport DT, but it was so slow in its responsiveness as to be
almost unusable. If they improve the processing power, it would be
great.
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