Re: getting size statistics on music folder
You can cut out a step just by pressing alt enter on the file or folder. - Original Message - From: Dan Thompson To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: getting size statistics on music folder Yes, select the folder. Press the your right mouse or the application key. Press the letter r or click on properties. Use your mouse routing keys (jfw is insert plus minus and windows is insert plus.) Press the number two on the numpad and arrow down until you hear used space. YOu will hear a very large long number but just below that number you will hear the size in gigabytes. - Original Message - From: "Robert Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: getting size statistics on music folder > Hi, > > I have over two hundred CDs saved on my PC in a folder called \mp3. They > are > in subfolders by artist and then further divided by disc name. > > Is there any way I can tell how many bytes all those thousands of MP3 > files > add up to without going to each subfolder and adding them manually? > > Thanks, Robert > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3430 (20080910) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dvd audio extractor
the program I currantly use will divide the disk into chapters which is great for the tv series I get but it also does the same with the movies I get. Is there another program I can use that will allowme to create a single file for movies? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: av reciver or stereo reciever
I have an Onkyo surround system that I use for TV and movies, but I feel that surround sound is excellent for music, in my opinion. I feel like I'm right in the middle of the orchestra, instead of just in the audience. I know this may be subjective, but that's my story! - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: av reciver or stereo reciever > Ok a small note to this if I may, I bought a Pioneer Surround-Sound > receiver and its set up here with no sighted assistance whatever, > grant you I had to read the manual a few times but all the menu system > was set out in the manual in its correct order. > > Second to this, I know of someone who has a Panasonic Home Theatre > receiver and he says its been the easiest thing to set up that he's > ever encountered, he just set his speakers where he wanted them, held > the microphone in his hand and pushed the button, the receiver > automatically measures the volume of sound from each speaker in tern > from the microphone to make the settings, couldn't be easier. > > as for me? Well having set up the system, I have to admit that I very > rarely use it for movies, I'm not much into that sort of thing though > they sound nice, or at least the few movies I have certainly do > , I mainly listen to SACD'S Audio DVD or DTS CD's but really > (when it comes to good quality for music) my Denon system I have > matched with my Microsiki CD Player and Audax transmission line > speakers just can't be beaten so its "horses for courses", you > generally sacrefice a bit of the music quality if you want surround- > sound but then again surround-sounders usually buy their systems for > movies anyway, not music. > > > On 03/09/2008, at 3:01 AM, Kris Hickerson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have a Denon that I really like. However, as with most of the new >> stereo >> receivers, you do need some sighted assistance to get things set up >> the way >> you want them. But, after that, it is easy to use. You need to go >> somewhere and checkout the controls of various units before buying. >> But I >> think they will all require some help to get things going. >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ** > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:Dane Trethowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > phone +61 3 9005 8589 > Fax/TTY +61 3 9743 7954 > mobile/sms: +614 418 773 532 > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: callto:grtdane12 > ** > > > > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Itunes 8 now accessible
Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype callto:grtdane12 ** Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd audio extractor
What application are you using? The application DVD Audio Extractor has several settings that will help with this. For example, you could break the movie up into chapters but then have it create a playlist of all of the chapters for you. You could also have it create one audio file for the whole movie instead of individual chapters. I tried to look for where the settings are, but since it's a wizard interface, and I'd need a DVD to get past the initial screen, I'd figured I'd wait to see if you needed this specific information or not first. doc wrote: > the program I currantly use will divide the disk into chapters which is great > for the tv series I get but it also does the same with the movies I get. Is > there another program I can use that will allowme to create a single file for > movies? > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype
Hi people. I am looking for some great and blind friendly user tutorials on Skype Written or Podcats it really doesn't matter. I am particularly interested in learning how to initiate and record conference calls as well as make and record Skype to land line calls. Please help. Thanks...KG Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: getting size statistics on music folder
Hi Robert, select all, alt + inter for properties, that will do it. - Original Message - From: "Robert Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:16 PM Subject: getting size statistics on music folder > Hi, > > I have over two hundred CDs saved on my PC in a folder called \mp3. They > are > in subfolders by artist and then further divided by disc name. > > Is there any way I can tell how many bytes all those thousands of MP3 > files > add up to without going to each subfolder and adding them manually? > > Thanks, Robert > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd audio extractor
DVD Audio Extractor from www.castudio.org will allow this. Bruce On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:44:34 -0600, "doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > the program I currantly use will divide the disk into chapters which is > great for the tv series I get but it also does the same with the movies I > get. Is there another program I can use that will allowme to create a > single file for movies? > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: getting size statistics on music folder
Hi Doc. Apart from what you say about alt/enter, after that you only need press insert (JAWS key) and the letter B to get all the information you need. Walter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of doc Sent: 10 September 2008 08:10 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting size statistics on music folder You can cut out a step just by pressing alt enter on the file or folder. - Original Message - From: Dan Thompson To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: getting size statistics on music folder Yes, select the folder. Press the your right mouse or the application key. Press the letter r or click on properties. Use your mouse routing keys (jfw is insert plus minus and windows is insert plus.) Press the number two on the numpad and arrow down until you hear used space. YOu will hear a very large long number but just below that number you will hear the size in gigabytes. - Original Message - From: "Robert Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: getting size statistics on music folder > Hi, > > I have over two hundred CDs saved on my PC in a folder called \mp3. They > are > in subfolders by artist and then further divided by disc name. > > Is there any way I can tell how many bytes all those thousands of MP3 > files > add up to without going to each subfolder and adding them manually? > > Thanks, Robert > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3430 (20080910) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: getting size statistics on music folder
focus on the main mp3 folder. then hit alt enter for properties. root jaws to pc and start at the top of the window. it will tell you how many files, folders you have in that main folder. then it will tell you the total size of the folder. hope this helps. - Original Message - From: "abarney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:33 AM Subject: Re: getting size statistics on music folder > Hi Robert, > select all, alt + inter for properties, > that will do it. > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:16 PM > Subject: getting size statistics on music folder > > >> Hi, >> >> I have over two hundred CDs saved on my PC in a folder called \mp3. They >> are >> in subfolders by artist and then further divided by disc name. >> >> Is there any way I can tell how many bytes all those thousands of MP3 >> files >> add up to without going to each subfolder and adding them manually? >> >> Thanks, Robert >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd audio extractor
Houdy doc, You can create single tracks with DVD audio extractor if I remember right on the third screen in the wizard if you uncheck the save each chapter as a separte file checkbox the file will then be created as one single file.. Hope this helps. Tony - Original Message - From: "doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:44 AM Subject: dvd audio extractor the program I currantly use will divide the disk into chapters which is great for the tv series I get but it also does the same with the movies I get. Is there another program I can use that will allowme to create a single file for movies? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1663 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 7:04 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accessibility of Songbird
Some recently recommended Songbird as a good music management, media play/burner. Does anyone have any experience with it's accessibility with screen readers? Thanks in advance! Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. > > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 > MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype callto:grtdane12 > > ** > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use text to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, where they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that live on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able to work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for iTunes in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today and am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. Apple have done a good job here. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I haven't seen one, so I don't know. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. > > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 > MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype callto:grtdane12 > > ** > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
The newest version of the Ipod nano units. Rick - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible what is a 4th generation nano? Tiffany - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > Fourth generation Nano's are equipped with voice on menus. > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Alex Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:53 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd audio extractor
I am using dvd audio extractor but though I have a vague rememberance of creating a single file, for some reason I haven't been able to find that checkbox. I have version 4.3. I just tried it with the "save each chapter as a separate file" unchecked and it only creates a file that is 500k in size. Which doesn't make any since because I have all the chapters checked on the first page. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: dvd audio extractor What application are you using? The application DVD Audio Extractor has several settings that will help with this. For example, you could break the movie up into chapters but then have it create a playlist of all of the chapters for you. You could also have it create one audio file for the whole movie instead of individual chapters. I tried to look for where the settings are, but since it's a wizard interface, and I'd need a DVD to get past the initial screen, I'd figured I'd wait to see if you needed this specific information or not first. doc wrote: > the program I currantly use will divide the disk into chapters which is great > for the tv series I get but it also does the same with the movies I get. Is > there another program I can use that will allowme to create a single file for > movies? > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3432 (20080910) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
Fourth generation Nano's are equipped with voice on menus. Rick - Original Message - From: "Alex Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I haven't seen one, so I don't know. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. > > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 > MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype callto:grtdane12 > > ** > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've read, but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to your PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using your default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you can hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real text to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds off the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use text to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, where they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that live on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able to work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for iTunes in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today and am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. Apple have done a good job here. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I haven't seen one, so I don't know. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. > > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 > MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype callto:grtdane12 > > ** > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
Hi Jonathan, Agreed, the new iTunes is great! --Check out my radio! http://www.jls-radio.com -- On Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 08:56 PM (GMT), Jonathan Mosen wrote: Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use text to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, where they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that live on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able to work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for iTunes in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today and am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. Apple have done a good job here. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I haven't seen one, so I don't know. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. > > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 > MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype callto:grtdane12 > > ** > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3432 (20080910) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- James Scholes E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN/Windows Live Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: JamesScholes000 Skype: james.scholes Website: http://www.jamesscholes.com Blog: http://www.jamesscholes.com/blog Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jamesscholes Find me on Facebook! Username: jamesscholes Link to Facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1375965156&hiq=jamesscholes Last.FM Profile: http://www.last.fm/user/jamesscholes000 -- Message sent at 09:14:19 PM GMT on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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what is considedred a 4th generation nano though? like how big memory wise? Tiffany - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > according to an article I read on another list Apple said the 4 th gen > nano's had speech built in to the players and could be used on the go by > blind users. > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:17 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2 and 4 gb I believe from what I found on Google. Rick - Original Message - From: "Tiffany Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible what is considedred a 4th generation nano though? like how big memory wise? Tiffany - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > according to an article I read on another list Apple said the 4 th gen > nano's had speech built in to the players and could be used on the go by > blind users. > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:17 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED
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The nanos go up to 16GB. I am really curious, given the technique they are using to do the speech, why it's not available on all the newer units including the hard drive-based players. Jonathan Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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according to an article I read on another list Apple said the 4 th gen nano's had speech built in to the players and could be used on the go by blind users. Rick - Original Message - From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:17 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds off the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use text to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, where they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that live on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able to work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for iTunes in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today and am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. Apple have done a good job here. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I haven't seen one, so I don't know. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. > > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 > MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype callto:grtdane12 > > ** > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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but it is only compatible with windows eyes, am i reading that right? i want to be able to use itunes but i use jaws not windows eyes. is there a place where i can download window eyes and install it? Tiffany - Original Message - From: "James Scholes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Jonathan, > Agreed, the new iTunes is great! > --Check out my radio! http://www.jls-radio.com > -- > On Wednesday, September 10, 2008 at 08:56 PM (GMT), Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ NOD32 3432 (20080910) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > -- > James Scholes > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN/Windows Live Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AIM: JamesScholes000 > Skype: james.scholes > Website: http://www.jamesscholes.com > Blog: http://www.jamesscholes.com/blog > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jamesscholes > Find me on Facebook! Username: jamesscholes > Link to Facebook profile: > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1375965156&hiq=jamesscholes > Last.FM Profile: http://www.last.fm/user/jamesscholes000 > -- > Message sent at 09:14:19 PM GMT on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i haven't had any problems with window eyes and ituens beta 3 of we and there is no set or scripts needed everything is accessible - Original Message - From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
what is a 4th generation nano? Tiffany - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > Fourth generation Nano's are equipped with voice on menus. > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Alex Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:53 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
yes really. that is kind of odd, i think. Tiffany - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:54 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > The nanos go up to 16GB. I am really curious, given the technique they are > using to do the speech, why it's not available on all the newer units > including the hard drive-based players. > > Jonathan > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 6:00 AM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
Hi the Apple I-phones are touch screen. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Jonathan, are they still using touch-screens or have they switched to > buttons? Or am I mistaking this with something else? > > Bruce > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:54:33 +1200, "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: >> The nanos go up to 16GB. I am really curious, given the technique they >> are >> using to do the speech, why it's not available on all the newer units >> including the hard drive-based players. >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > Bruce Toews > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: 10/09/2008 06:00 Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds off the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use text to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, where they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that live on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able to work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for iTunes in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today and am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. Apple have done a good job here. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stone Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I haven't seen one, so I don't know. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. > > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 > MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype callto:grtdane12 > > ** > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but this wasn't the case before. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe f
RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
Jonathan, are they still using touch-screens or have they switched to buttons? Or am I mistaking this with something else? Bruce On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:54:33 +1200, "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The nanos go up to 16GB. I am really curious, given the technique they > are > using to do the speech, why it's not available on all the newer units > including the hard drive-based players. > > Jonathan > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd audio extractor
I think my copy has a flaw. When I uncheck that box I only get a 19 second file even though all the chapters are checked. I'm going to download another copy in case mine was defective. - Original Message - From: nick danger To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: dvd audio extractor Houdy doc, You can create single tracks with DVD audio extractor if I remember right on the third screen in the wizard if you uncheck the save each chapter as a separte file checkbox the file will then be created as one single file.. Hope this helps. Tony - Original Message - From: "doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:44 AM Subject: dvd audio extractor the program I currantly use will divide the disk into chapters which is great for the tv series I get but it also does the same with the movies I get. Is there another program I can use that will allowme to create a single file for movies? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1663 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 7:04 PM Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3432 (20080910) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
Lauren this is true, but do keep in mind that without a PC or mac, the nano is useless anyway since you need to load music onto it. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:45 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Does this mean you cannot use the device without a PC? It will not speak menus when you want to choose the songs, etc. on the device itself? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mose
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
cool. thanks Rick. Tiffany - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >2 and 4 gb I believe from what I found on Google. > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Tiffany Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > what is considedred a 4th generation nano though? like how big memory > wise? > > Tiffany > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> according to an article I read on another list Apple said the 4 th gen >> nano's had speech built in to the players and could be used on the go by >> blind users. >> >> Rick >> - Original Message - >> From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:17 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds >> off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use >> text >> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, >> where >> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that >> live >> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >> >> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of >> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able >> to >> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >> iTunes >> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today >> and >> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. >> Apple have done a good job here. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but >> I >> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >> Cheers >> Alex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus
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Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have an N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback devices are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of saqib Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but this wasn't the case before. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan
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Thanks, I stand corrected. Rick - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible The nanos go up to 16GB. I am really curious, given the technique they are using to do the speech, why it's not available on all the newer units including the hard drive-based players. Jonathan Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I haven't seen one, so I don't know. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. > > > -- > Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia > mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 > Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 > Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 > MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype callto:grtdane12 > > ** > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does this mean you cannot use the device without a PC? It will not speak menus when you want to choose the songs, etc. on the device itself? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jonathan, Doesn't playing music on your phone rapidly run your batteries down? And what about quality? I have a phone capable of playing music but I haven't really ever tried it out. Thanks, Rick - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have an N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback devices are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of saqib Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but this wasn't the case before. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen
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I could be wrong here but there are systems out there which will load tracks onto an Ipod (though I grant you the speech functionality probably wouldn't work ) I'm sure I've read about a couple of Panasonic systems which are now available, they have some sort of arrangement whereby the user can copy a whole CD or tracks of same to an Ipod? On 11/09/2008, at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Lauren this is true, but do keep in mind that without a PC or mac, > the nano > is useless anyway since you need to load music onto it. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:45 a.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Does this mean you cannot use the device without a PC? It will not > speak > menus when you want to choose the songs, etc. on the device itself? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:37 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >> read, >> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is >> connected to >> your >> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. >> Using >> your >> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, >> files >> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then >> copied to >> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, >> you >> can >> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having >> real >> text >> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at >> Rockbox gave >> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it >> feeds >> off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not >> use >> text >> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 >> years, >> where >> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files >> that >> live >> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >> >> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive >> use of >> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will >> be able >> to >> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >> iTunes >> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this >> today >> and >> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many >> others. >> Apple have done a good job here. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is >> accessible, but >> I >> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >> Cheers >> Alex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >
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Yes that's indeed true but managing playlists for a couple of thousand songs can be a challenge for the best of us . Ipod Nanos are far cheaper than say mobile phones and getting Talks or Mobile Speak put on them, not to mention (in the case of the N95 phone at least), more practical as the sound quality is far better. Yes, its taken Apple a while to get things done but thankfully we've had a lot of patient people who have presented Apple with feedback about their products rather than just being content to sit back as blind people do on the whole and wine about how this isn't perfect, that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible . So finally, I take my hat off to everyone who writes to Apple and other company's with feedback about the products their using, glad its not jut me . On 11/09/2008, at 7:23 AM, saqib wrote: > Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen > to > music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so > long to > meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their > attitude > was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. > It's > good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility > factor but > this wasn't the case before. > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >> read, >> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is >> connected to >> your >> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. >> Using >> your >> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, >> files >> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then >> copied to >> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, >> you >> can >> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having >> real >> text >> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at >> Rockbox gave >> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it >> feeds >> off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not >> use >> text >> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 >> years, >> where >> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files >> that >> live >> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >> >> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive >> use of >> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will >> be able >> to >> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >> iTunes >> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this >> today >> and >> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many >> others. >> Apple have done a good job here. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is >> accessible, but >> I >> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >> Cheers >> Alex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>> >>>
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Sounds very nice. Thanks for the information. Rick - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Hi Rick, it depends on what else you're doing. On my N82, I get about 10-12 hours of continuous music on a plane, that is to say when the phone functions aren't running. It's less when they are, and less again if you have WiFi active. Some of the new Nokia phones offer over 24 hours of music playback though. Another advantage of going with the Nokia phones is their built-in support for podcasting. I was in a meeting in another city a couple of days ago. On my way to the airport, I used a HSDPA connection to download a bunch of podcasts and catch up with the news in-flight. The podcast client remembers your place in each podcast. There is a DAISY player for Symbian as well, so you can read newspapers from Newsline etc on it. The N82 will also play Audible content. And even though I don't have one of the phones with longer music playback time because I use the KNFB Reader which only works on the N82 for now, I have a tiny device with me that is a 3400 MA battery, allowing me to charge the phone 3 times. The battery in turn then charges via a wall outlet or USB port. So for me, carrying an iPod, a Stream, or whatever it might be makes no sense. A smartphone does so much more and is in your pocket for a range of uses. In the US, obviously NLS may be a factor, but it isn't for me. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harmon Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:22 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, Doesn't playing music on your phone rapidly run your batteries down? And what about quality? I have a phone capable of playing music but I haven't really ever tried it out. Thanks, Rick - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have an N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback devices are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of saqib Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but this wasn't the case before. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive
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8GB and 16GB On 11/09/2008, at 6:49 AM, Rick Harmon wrote: > 2 and 4 gb I believe from what I found on Google. > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Tiffany Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > what is considedred a 4th generation nano though? like how big > memory wise? > > Tiffany > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> according to an article I read on another list Apple said the 4 th >> gen >> nano's had speech built in to the players and could be used on the >> go by >> blind users. >> >> Rick >> - Original Message - >> From: "Stephen Guerra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:17 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it >> feeds >> off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not >> use >> text >> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 >> years, >> where >> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files >> that >> live >> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >> >> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive >> use of >> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will >> be able >> to >> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >> iTunes >> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this >> today >> and >> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many >> others. >> Apple have done a good job here. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is >> accessible, but >> I >> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >> Cheers >> Alex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: > 9/10/2008 > 6:00 AM > > > > Jonathan Mosen List
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If this is the case, then the talking nano is seriously flawed, since you must connect a computer to it to get the speech recordings of your tracks and albums. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:21 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible I could be wrong here but there are systems out there which will load tracks onto an Ipod (though I grant you the speech functionality probably wouldn't work ) I'm sure I've read about a couple of Panasonic systems which are now available, they have some sort of arrangement whereby the user can copy a whole CD or tracks of same to an Ipod? On 11/09/2008, at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Lauren this is true, but do keep in mind that without a PC or mac, > the nano > is useless anyway since you need to load music onto it. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:45 a.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Does this mean you cannot use the device without a PC? It will not > speak > menus when you want to choose the songs, etc. on the device itself? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:37 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >> read, >> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is >> connected to >> your >> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. >> Using >> your >> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, >> files >> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then >> copied to >> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, >> you >> can >> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having >> real >> text >> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at >> Rockbox gave >> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it >> feeds >> off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not >> use >> text >> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 >> years, >> where >> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files >> that >> live >> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >> >> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive >> use of >> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will >> be able >> to >> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >> iTunes >> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this >> today >> and >> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many >> others. >> Apple have done a good job here. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is >> accessible, but >> I >> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >> Cheers >> Alex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED
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In response to the question "Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech?"I also think you need to have iTunes 8 on your PC. I don't think you need to install any software on the Nano though. Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Rick, it depends on what else you're doing. On my N82, I get about 10-12 hours of continuous music on a plane, that is to say when the phone functions aren't running. It's less when they are, and less again if you have WiFi active. Some of the new Nokia phones offer over 24 hours of music playback though. Another advantage of going with the Nokia phones is their built-in support for podcasting. I was in a meeting in another city a couple of days ago. On my way to the airport, I used a HSDPA connection to download a bunch of podcasts and catch up with the news in-flight. The podcast client remembers your place in each podcast. There is a DAISY player for Symbian as well, so you can read newspapers from Newsline etc on it. The N82 will also play Audible content. And even though I don't have one of the phones with longer music playback time because I use the KNFB Reader which only works on the N82 for now, I have a tiny device with me that is a 3400 MA battery, allowing me to charge the phone 3 times. The battery in turn then charges via a wall outlet or USB port. So for me, carrying an iPod, a Stream, or whatever it might be makes no sense. A smartphone does so much more and is in your pocket for a range of uses. In the US, obviously NLS may be a factor, but it isn't for me. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harmon Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:22 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, Doesn't playing music on your phone rapidly run your batteries down? And what about quality? I have a phone capable of playing music but I haven't really ever tried it out. Thanks, Rick - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have an N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback devices are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of saqib Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but this wasn't the case before. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this toda
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Hi, Is there an Ipod that after you download the songs using a PC that you can take on the road and have it be accessible? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > Sounds very nice. Thanks for the information. > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:42 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > Hi Rick, it depends on what else you're doing. On my N82, I get about > 10-12 > hours of continuous music on a plane, that is to say when the phone > functions aren't running. It's less when they are, and less again if you > have WiFi active. Some of the new Nokia phones offer over 24 hours of > music > playback though. > > Another advantage of going with the Nokia phones is their built-in support > for podcasting. I was in a meeting in another city a couple of days ago. > On > my way to the airport, I used a HSDPA connection to download a bunch of > podcasts and catch up with the news in-flight. The podcast client > remembers > your place in each podcast. > > There is a DAISY player for Symbian as well, so you can read newspapers > from > Newsline etc on it. > > The N82 will also play Audible content. > > And even though I don't have one of the phones with longer music playback > time because I use the KNFB Reader which only works on the N82 for now, I > have a tiny device with me that is a 3400 MA battery, allowing me to > charge > the phone 3 times. The battery in turn then charges via a wall outlet or > USB > port. So for me, carrying an iPod, a Stream, or whatever it might be makes > no sense. A smartphone does so much more and is in your pocket for a range > of uses. In the US, obviously NLS may be a factor, but it isn't for me. > > Jonathan > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Rick Harmon > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:22 a.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, > > Doesn't playing music on your phone rapidly run your batteries down? And > what about quality? I have a phone capable of playing music but I haven't > really ever tried it out. > > Thanks, > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:56 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have > an > N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback > devices > are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a > smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of saqib > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to > music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to > meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude > was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's > good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but > this wasn't the case before. > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >> read, >> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to >> your >> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using >> your >> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files >> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to >> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you >> can >> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real >> text >> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox >> gave >> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds >> off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [
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Yes, this is what the nano will do. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:06 p.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Hi, Is there an Ipod that after you download the songs using a PC that you can take on the road and have it be accessible? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > Sounds very nice. Thanks for the information. > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:42 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > Hi Rick, it depends on what else you're doing. On my N82, I get about > 10-12 > hours of continuous music on a plane, that is to say when the phone > functions aren't running. It's less when they are, and less again if you > have WiFi active. Some of the new Nokia phones offer over 24 hours of > music > playback though. > > Another advantage of going with the Nokia phones is their built-in support > for podcasting. I was in a meeting in another city a couple of days ago. > On > my way to the airport, I used a HSDPA connection to download a bunch of > podcasts and catch up with the news in-flight. The podcast client > remembers > your place in each podcast. > > There is a DAISY player for Symbian as well, so you can read newspapers > from > Newsline etc on it. > > The N82 will also play Audible content. > > And even though I don't have one of the phones with longer music playback > time because I use the KNFB Reader which only works on the N82 for now, I > have a tiny device with me that is a 3400 MA battery, allowing me to > charge > the phone 3 times. The battery in turn then charges via a wall outlet or > USB > port. So for me, carrying an iPod, a Stream, or whatever it might be makes > no sense. A smartphone does so much more and is in your pocket for a range > of uses. In the US, obviously NLS may be a factor, but it isn't for me. > > Jonathan > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Rick Harmon > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:22 a.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, > > Doesn't playing music on your phone rapidly run your batteries down? And > what about quality? I have a phone capable of playing music but I haven't > really ever tried it out. > > Thanks, > > Rick > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:56 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have > an > N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback > devices > are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a > smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of saqib > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to > music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to > meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude > was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's > good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but > this wasn't the case before. > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >> read, >> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to >> your >> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using >> your >> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files >> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to >> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you >> can >> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real >> text >> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox >> gave >> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan,
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As I'm aware you can use it with both Mac and Windows. On 11/09/2008, at 7:44 AM, Lauren wrote: > Does this mean you cannot use the device without a PC? It will not > speak > menus when you want to choose the songs, etc. on the device itself? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:37 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >> read, >> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is >> connected to >> your >> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. >> Using >> your >> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, >> files >> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then >> copied to >> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, >> you >> can >> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having >> real >> text >> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at >> Rockbox gave >> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it >> feeds >> off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not >> use >> text >> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 >> years, >> where >> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files >> that >> live >> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >> >> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive >> use of >> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will >> be able >> to >> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >> iTunes >> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this >> today >> and >> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many >> others. >> Apple have done a good job here. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is >> accessible, but >> I >> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >> Cheers >> Alex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jon
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Well, I don't agree with the statement "rather than just being content to sit back as blind people do on the whole and wine about how this isn't perfect, that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible," and yes I did notice the smiley at the end! IMHO, blind people are people too, and this means that we share the positive and not so positive characteristics of our sighted counterparts. I don't think the blind are any more likely to sit back and whine than the sighted. I'm on quite a few lists that have nothing to do with blindness, and I've never found that the blind have a corner on the "sit back and whine" market. Although I disagree with statements like this, that imply the blind are more defensive, lazier or whinier than our sighted counterparts, I do agree with the sentiment that we need to give companies balanced and constructive feedback on our accessibility needs. I don't think rants on the malevolence of Microsoft and Nokia are productive, just like I don't think sermons on how saintly Apple is are beneficial. That's just my $0.02, and it's probably not even worth that! Dane Trethowan wrote: > Yes that's indeed true but managing playlists for a couple of thousand > songs can be a challenge for the best of us . Ipod Nanos are > far cheaper than say mobile phones and getting Talks or Mobile Speak > put on them, not to mention (in the case of the N95 phone at least), > more practical as the sound quality is far better. > > Yes, its taken Apple a while to get things done but thankfully we've > had a lot of patient people who have presented Apple with feedback > about their products rather than just being content to sit back as > blind people do on the whole and wine about how this isn't perfect, > that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible . > > So finally, I take my hat off to everyone who writes to Apple and > other company's with feedback about the products their using, glad its > not jut me . > > > On 11/09/2008, at 7:23 AM, saqib wrote: > > >> Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen >> to >> music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so >> long to >> meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their >> attitude >> was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. >> It's >> good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility >> factor but >> this wasn't the case before. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> >>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >>> read, >>> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is >>> connected to >>> your >>> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. >>> Using >>> your >>> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, >>> files >>> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then >>> copied to >>> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, >>> you >>> can >>> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having >>> real >>> text >>> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at >>> Rockbox gave >>> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ] >>> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it >>> feeds >>> off >>> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >>> >>> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> ] >>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not >>> use >>> text >>> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 >>> years, >>> where >>> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files >>> that >>> live >>> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >>> >>> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive >>> use of >>> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will >>> be able >>> to >>> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >>> iTunes >>> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this >>> today >>> and >>> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many >>> others. >>> Apple have do
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Indeed! but (as you said) most people use their Ipods with a computer of some description using Windows or a Mac. On 11/09/2008, at 9:26 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > If this is the case, then the talking nano is seriously flawed, > since you > must connect a computer to it to get the speech recordings of your > tracks > and albums. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ] > On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:21 a.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > I could be wrong here but there are systems out there which will load > tracks onto an Ipod (though I grant you the speech functionality > probably wouldn't work ) I'm sure I've read about a couple of > Panasonic systems which are now available, they have some sort of > arrangement whereby the user can copy a whole CD or tracks of same to > an Ipod? > > > On 11/09/2008, at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > >> Lauren this is true, but do keep in mind that without a PC or mac, >> the nano >> is useless anyway since you need to load music onto it. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:45 a.m. >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Does this mean you cannot use the device without a PC? It will not >> speak >> menus when you want to choose the songs, etc. on the device itself? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:37 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what >>> I've >>> read, >>> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is >>> connected to >>> your >>> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. >>> Using >>> your >>> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, >>> files >>> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then >>> copied to >>> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, >>> you >>> can >>> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having >>> real >>> text >>> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at >>> Rockbox gave >>> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> ] >>> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it >>> feeds >>> off >>> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way >>> off. >>> >>> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> ] >>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not >>> use >>> text >>> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 >>> years, >>> where >>> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files >>> that >>> live >>> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >>> >>> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive >>> use of >>> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will >>> be able >>> to >>> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >>> iTunes >>> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this >>> today >>> and >>> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many >>> others. >>> Apple have done a good job here. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> ] >>> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is >>> accessible, but >>> I >>> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >>> Cheers >>> Alex >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> ] >>> On Behalf Of Lauren >>> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Lauren >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September
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DVD's often have multiple video's on them. DVD Audio Extractor does a good job of guessing which one is the main video, but you might want to check that you're selecting the right video, i.e. usually the largest. doc wrote: > I think my copy has a flaw. When I uncheck that box I only get a 19 second > file even though all the chapters are checked. I'm going to download another > copy in case mine was defective. > - Original Message - > From: nick danger > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: dvd audio extractor > > > Houdy doc, > > You can create single tracks with DVD audio extractor if I remember right on > the third screen in the wizard if you uncheck the save each chapter as a > separte file checkbox the file will then be created as one single file.. > Hope this helps. > > Tony > - Original Message - > From: "doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:44 AM > Subject: dvd audio extractor > > > the program I currantly use will divide the disk into chapters which is > great for the tv series I get but it also does the same with the movies I > get. Is there another program I can use that will allowme to create a single > file for movies? > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1663 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 > 7:04 PM > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ NOD32 3432 (20080910) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
Jonathan, I probably won't be buying a new iPod Nano since I have an N82 with plenty of storage and several other players including my old iRiver H120 with Rockbox, but I'm glad that Apple finally produced an iPod we can use without any modification. It's also nice that the voice tagging of menus and songs is done automatically by iTunes once the feature is activated in the software. Rockbox is nice also, but there's no automated way of voice tagging songs, and we have to settle for the titles being spelled instead of spoken. Gary King [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
I'd like to think I'm wrong as well but sadly (whether you agree nor not) its all too true. Christopher Chaltain wrote: > Well, I don't agree with the statement "rather than just being content > to sit back as blind people do on the whole and wine about how this > isn't perfect, that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible," and > yes I did notice the smiley at the end! > > IMHO, blind people are people too, and this means that we share the > positive and not so positive characteristics of our sighted > counterparts. I don't think the blind are any more likely to sit back > and whine than the sighted. I'm on quite a few lists that have nothing > to do with blindness, and I've never found that the blind have a corner > on the "sit back and whine" market. > > Although I disagree with statements like this, that imply the blind are > more defensive, lazier or whinier than our sighted counterparts, I do > agree with the sentiment that we need to give companies balanced and > constructive feedback on our accessibility needs. I don't think rants on > the malevolence of Microsoft and Nokia are productive, just like I don't > think sermons on how saintly Apple is are beneficial. That's just my > $0.02, and it's probably not even worth that! > > Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yes that's indeed true but managing playlists for a couple of thousand >> songs can be a challenge for the best of us . Ipod Nanos are >> far cheaper than say mobile phones and getting Talks or Mobile Speak >> put on them, not to mention (in the case of the N95 phone at least), >> more practical as the sound quality is far better. >> >> Yes, its taken Apple a while to get things done but thankfully we've >> had a lot of patient people who have presented Apple with feedback >> about their products rather than just being content to sit back as >> blind people do on the whole and wine about how this isn't perfect, >> that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible . >> >> So finally, I take my hat off to everyone who writes to Apple and >> other company's with feedback about the products their using, glad its >> not jut me . >> >> >> On 11/09/2008, at 7:23 AM, saqib wrote: >> >> >>> Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen >>> to >>> music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so >>> long to >>> meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their >>> attitude >>> was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. >>> It's >>> good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility >>> factor but >>> this wasn't the case before. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> >>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've read, but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to your PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using your default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you can hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real text to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds off the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use text to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, where they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that live on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able to w
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
Yes, you do need Itunes 8 and only that, no extra software on the Nano. Christopher Chaltain wrote: > In response to the question "Does the Nano require you to install > software to have speech?"I also think you need to have iTunes 8 on your > PC. I don't think you need to install any software on the Nano though. > > Jonathan Mosen wrote: >> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've read, >> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to your >> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using your >> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files >> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to >> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you can >> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real text >> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave >> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use text >> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, where >> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that live >> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >> >> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of >> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able to >> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for iTunes >> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today and >> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. >> Apple have done a good job here. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but I >> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >> Cheers >> Alex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> >>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Austr
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
Yes, if you read down through this thread far enough, I think you'll see that if you have an iPod Nano (4th generation) and iTunes version 8 on your Mac or PC then you can set it up so that the Nano will given you spoken menus as well as spoken file and track names. Furthermore, iTunes version 8 is also accessible with Winows-Eyes and JAWS, so you can use it to populate your Nano with music, pod casts and so on. Lauren wrote: > Hi, > > Is there an Ipod that after you download the songs using a PC that you can > take on the road and have it be accessible? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > >> Sounds very nice. Thanks for the information. >> >> Rick >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:42 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> Hi Rick, it depends on what else you're doing. On my N82, I get about >> 10-12 >> hours of continuous music on a plane, that is to say when the phone >> functions aren't running. It's less when they are, and less again if you >> have WiFi active. Some of the new Nokia phones offer over 24 hours of >> music >> playback though. >> >> Another advantage of going with the Nokia phones is their built-in support >> for podcasting. I was in a meeting in another city a couple of days ago. >> On >> my way to the airport, I used a HSDPA connection to download a bunch of >> podcasts and catch up with the news in-flight. The podcast client >> remembers >> your place in each podcast. >> >> There is a DAISY player for Symbian as well, so you can read newspapers >> from >> Newsline etc on it. >> >> The N82 will also play Audible content. >> >> And even though I don't have one of the phones with longer music playback >> time because I use the KNFB Reader which only works on the N82 for now, I >> have a tiny device with me that is a 3400 MA battery, allowing me to >> charge >> the phone 3 times. The battery in turn then charges via a wall outlet or >> USB >> port. So for me, carrying an iPod, a Stream, or whatever it might be makes >> no sense. A smartphone does so much more and is in your pocket for a range >> of uses. In the US, obviously NLS may be a factor, but it isn't for me. >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Rick Harmon >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:22 a.m. >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, >> >> Doesn't playing music on your phone rapidly run your batteries down? And >> what about quality? I have a phone capable of playing music but I haven't >> really ever tried it out. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rick >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:56 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have >> an >> N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback >> devices >> are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a >> smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of saqib >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to >> music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to >> meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude >> was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's >> good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but >> this wasn't the case before. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> >>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >>> read, >>> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to >>> your >>> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using >>> your >>> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files >>> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to >>> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you >>> can >>> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real >>> text >>> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox >>> gave >>> us q
RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
Hi Gary, There is software downloadable from the Rockbox site that does exactly what the software for the nano is doing. IE, it scans the MP3 player for files, uses your default speech synthesiser to make recordings of the albums, folders and file names, and puts those recordings with a special file extension onto the Rockbox-enabled player. I know, as I've used it regularly. The only time Rockbox will spell the files out is if you don't use this utility. That said, you can't play Audible or protected iTunes content on Rockbox. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:27 p.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, I probably won't be buying a new iPod Nano since I have an N82 with plenty of storage and several other players including my old iRiver H120 with Rockbox, but I'm glad that Apple finally produced an iPod we can use without any modification. It's also nice that the voice tagging of menus and songs is done automatically by iTunes once the feature is activated in the software. Rockbox is nice also, but there's no automated way of voice tagging songs, and we have to settle for the titles being spelled instead of spoken. Gary King [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a
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With one exception... The democrats and Republicans here in the USA. No one and I mean no one fights more than they do. Rick - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible I'd like to think it to be wrong as well, but I was sighted for 40 years and never saw the types of complaining and fighting and whining from other sighted persons that I've seen on blind mailing lists from many blind persons over the last 4 years since I lost my sight. The blind community sadly is far more fragmented from in fighting probably more than any sighted group I've seen. Rick - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible I'd like to think I'm wrong as well but sadly (whether you agree nor not) its all too true. Christopher Chaltain wrote: > Well, I don't agree with the statement "rather than just being content > to sit back as blind people do on the whole and wine about how this > isn't perfect, that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible," and > yes I did notice the smiley at the end! > > IMHO, blind people are people too, and this means that we share the > positive and not so positive characteristics of our sighted > counterparts. I don't think the blind are any more likely to sit back > and whine than the sighted. I'm on quite a few lists that have nothing > to do with blindness, and I've never found that the blind have a corner > on the "sit back and whine" market. > > Although I disagree with statements like this, that imply the blind are > more defensive, lazier or whinier than our sighted counterparts, I do > agree with the sentiment that we need to give companies balanced and > constructive feedback on our accessibility needs. I don't think rants on > the malevolence of Microsoft and Nokia are productive, just like I don't > think sermons on how saintly Apple is are beneficial. That's just my > $0.02, and it's probably not even worth that! > > Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yes that's indeed true but managing playlists for a couple of thousand >> songs can be a challenge for the best of us . Ipod Nanos are >> far cheaper than say mobile phones and getting Talks or Mobile Speak >> put on them, not to mention (in the case of the N95 phone at least), >> more practical as the sound quality is far better. >> >> Yes, its taken Apple a while to get things done but thankfully we've >> had a lot of patient people who have presented Apple with feedback >> about their products rather than just being content to sit back as >> blind people do on the whole and wine about how this isn't perfect, >> that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible . >> >> So finally, I take my hat off to everyone who writes to Apple and >> other company's with feedback about the products their using, glad its >> not jut me . >> >> >> On 11/09/2008, at 7:23 AM, saqib wrote: >> >> >>> Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen >>> to >>> music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so >>> long to >>> meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their >>> attitude >>> was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. >>> It's >>> good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility >>> factor but >>> this wasn't the case before. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> >>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've read, but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to your PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using your default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you can hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real text to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds off the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. Does the Nano require you to i
Re: Itunes 8 now accessible
I'd like to think it to be wrong as well, but I was sighted for 40 years and never saw the types of complaining and fighting and whining from other sighted persons that I've seen on blind mailing lists from many blind persons over the last 4 years since I lost my sight. The blind community sadly is far more fragmented from in fighting probably more than any sighted group I've seen. Rick - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible I'd like to think I'm wrong as well but sadly (whether you agree nor not) its all too true. Christopher Chaltain wrote: > Well, I don't agree with the statement "rather than just being content > to sit back as blind people do on the whole and wine about how this > isn't perfect, that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible," and > yes I did notice the smiley at the end! > > IMHO, blind people are people too, and this means that we share the > positive and not so positive characteristics of our sighted > counterparts. I don't think the blind are any more likely to sit back > and whine than the sighted. I'm on quite a few lists that have nothing > to do with blindness, and I've never found that the blind have a corner > on the "sit back and whine" market. > > Although I disagree with statements like this, that imply the blind are > more defensive, lazier or whinier than our sighted counterparts, I do > agree with the sentiment that we need to give companies balanced and > constructive feedback on our accessibility needs. I don't think rants on > the malevolence of Microsoft and Nokia are productive, just like I don't > think sermons on how saintly Apple is are beneficial. That's just my > $0.02, and it's probably not even worth that! > > Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yes that's indeed true but managing playlists for a couple of thousand >> songs can be a challenge for the best of us . Ipod Nanos are >> far cheaper than say mobile phones and getting Talks or Mobile Speak >> put on them, not to mention (in the case of the N95 phone at least), >> more practical as the sound quality is far better. >> >> Yes, its taken Apple a while to get things done but thankfully we've >> had a lot of patient people who have presented Apple with feedback >> about their products rather than just being content to sit back as >> blind people do on the whole and wine about how this isn't perfect, >> that isn't perfect or the other isn't accessible . >> >> So finally, I take my hat off to everyone who writes to Apple and >> other company's with feedback about the products their using, glad its >> not jut me . >> >> >> On 11/09/2008, at 7:23 AM, saqib wrote: >> >> >>> Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen >>> to >>> music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so >>> long to >>> meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their >>> attitude >>> was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. >>> It's >>> good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility >>> factor but >>> this wasn't the case before. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> >>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've read, but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to your PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using your default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you can hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real text to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds off the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >
Apple Offers VoiceOver Getting Started for Leopard
Hi Everyone! Here's a quote from an article which appears at http://www.lioncourt.com so you can navigate to this site to read the rest of the text. Apple Offers VoiceOver Getting Started for Leopard Podcast 10 September, 2008 @ 1:28 pm by Lioncourt In addition to the "VoiceOver Getting Started for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger Podcast" , Apple has now released "VoiceOver Getting Started for Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Podcast" . This podcast is available in the iTunes Store and is designed to introduce the use of VoiceOver to new users, though seasoned veterans may learn a thing or two as well. -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype callto:grtdane12 ** Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In 100% agreement with you on all that, its great we have a choice. Gary King wrote: > Jonathan, > > I probably won't be buying a new iPod Nano since I have an N82 with plenty > of storage and several other players including my old iRiver H120 with > Rockbox, but I'm glad that Apple finally produced an iPod we can use without > any modification. It's also nice that the voice tagging of menus and songs > is done automatically by iTunes once the feature is activated in the > software. Rockbox is nice also, but there's no automated way of voice > tagging songs, and we have to settle for the titles being spelled instead of > spoken. > > Gary King > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:37 PM > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >> read, >> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to >> your >> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using >> your >> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files >> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to >> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you >> can >> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real >> text >> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave >> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds >> off >> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >> >> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use >> text >> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, >> where >> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that >> live >> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >> >> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of >> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able >> to >> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >> iTunes >> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today >> and >> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. >> Apple have done a good job here. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but >> I >> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >> Cheers >> Alex >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Lauren >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dane Trethowan >>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more.
Re: Apple Offers VoiceOver Getting Started for Leopard
well what about windows xpAt 07:39 PM 9/10/2008, you wrote: >Hi Everyone! > >Here's a quote from an article which appears at http://www.lioncourt.com >so you can navigate to this site to read the rest of the text. > > > >Apple Offers VoiceOver Getting Started for Leopard Podcast >10 September, 2008 @ 1:28 pm by Lioncourt >In addition to the >"VoiceOver Getting Started for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger Podcast" >, Apple has now released >"VoiceOver Getting Started for Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Podcast" >. This podcast is available in the >iTunes Store > and is designed to introduce the use of >VoiceOver > to new users, though seasoned veterans may learn a thing or two as well. > >-- >Dane Trethowan > From Melton Victoria Australia >mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >skype callto:grtdane12 > >** > > > >Jonathan Mosen List Founder >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >__ NOD32 3433 (20080910) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apple Offers VoiceOver Getting Started for Leopard
And what's that got to do with it . Mr. Bill wrote: > well what about windows xpAt 07:39 PM 9/10/2008, you wrote: >> Hi Everyone! >> >> Here's a quote from an article which appears at http://www.lioncourt.com >> so you can navigate to this site to read the rest of the text. >> >> >> >>Apple Offers VoiceOver Getting Started for Leopard Podcast >> 10 September, 2008 @ 1:28 pm by Lioncourt >> In addition to the >> "VoiceOver Getting Started for Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger Podcast" >> , Apple has now released >> "VoiceOver Getting Started for Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Podcast" >> . This podcast is available in the >> iTunes Store >> and is designed to introduce the use of >> VoiceOver >> to new users, though seasoned veterans may learn a thing or two as well. >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ** >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> __ NOD32 3433 (20080910) Information __ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype callto:grtdane12 ** Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trotal recorder 7 and JFW
Hi, Keith Gillard wrote: > I installed TR7 as the FAQ sez I need it to record skype calls using the > new kernal driver. > after restarting it completely blew away all my sounds including windoes > events and JFW. I remember having read somewhere that it's a known problem and it will be fixed as soon as High Criteria founds a solution. Jani Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
