Yes, if you read down through this thread far enough, I think you'll see that if you have an iPod Nano (4th generation) and iTunes version 8 on your Mac or PC then you can set it up so that the Nano will given you spoken menus as well as spoken file and track names. Furthermore, iTunes version 8 is also accessible with Winows-Eyes and JAWS, so you can use it to populate your Nano with music, pod casts and so on.
Lauren wrote: > Hi, > > Is there an Ipod that after you download the songs using a PC that you can > take on the road and have it be accessible? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > > >> Sounds very nice. Thanks for the information. >> >> Rick >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:42 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> Hi Rick, it depends on what else you're doing. On my N82, I get about >> 10-12 >> hours of continuous music on a plane, that is to say when the phone >> functions aren't running. It's less when they are, and less again if you >> have WiFi active. Some of the new Nokia phones offer over 24 hours of >> music >> playback though. >> >> Another advantage of going with the Nokia phones is their built-in support >> for podcasting. I was in a meeting in another city a couple of days ago. >> On >> my way to the airport, I used a HSDPA connection to download a bunch of >> podcasts and catch up with the news in-flight. The podcast client >> remembers >> your place in each podcast. >> >> There is a DAISY player for Symbian as well, so you can read newspapers >> from >> Newsline etc on it. >> >> The N82 will also play Audible content. >> >> And even though I don't have one of the phones with longer music playback >> time because I use the KNFB Reader which only works on the N82 for now, I >> have a tiny device with me that is a 3400 MA battery, allowing me to >> charge >> the phone 3 times. The battery in turn then charges via a wall outlet or >> USB >> port. So for me, carrying an iPod, a Stream, or whatever it might be makes >> no sense. A smartphone does so much more and is in your pocket for a range >> of uses. In the US, obviously NLS may be a factor, but it isn't for me. >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Rick Harmon >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:22 a.m. >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Jonathan, >> >> Doesn't playing music on your phone rapidly run your batteries down? And >> what about quality? I have a phone capable of playing music but I haven't >> really ever tried it out. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rick >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:56 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have >> an >> N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback >> devices >> are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a >> smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. >> >> Jonathan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of saqib >> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to >> music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to >> meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude >> was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's >> good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but >> this wasn't the case before. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM >> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >> >> >> >>> Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've >>> read, >>> but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to >>> your >>> PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using >>> your >>> default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files >>> are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to >>> your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you >>> can >>> hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real >>> text >>> to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox >>> gave >>> us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra >>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds >>> off >>> the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. >>> >>> Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use >>> text >>> to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, >>> where >>> they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that >>> live >>> on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. >>> >>> In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of >>> Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able >>> to >>> work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for >>> iTunes >>> in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today >>> and >>> am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. >>> Apple have done a good job here. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Alex Stone >>> Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but >>> I >>> haven't seen one, so I don't know. >>> Cheers >>> Alex >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Lauren >>> Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Lauren >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM >>> Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible >>> >>> >>> >>>> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> From Melton Victoria Australia >>>> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>>> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >>>> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >>>> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >>>> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> skype callto:grtdane12 >>>> >>>> ****************************** >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1664 - Release Date: >> 10/09/2008 >> 06:00 >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
