understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread Scott Blanks
Hi all,

Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the 
purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I realize 
however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my 
questions:

1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media such as 
WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term, the 
same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to the dvd 
drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc, regardless of the 
method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players, including 
video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I realize 
there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to this 
question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a large 
number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a person 
using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders and 
their files?
3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for $26. Does 
this seem a good bargain?

Thanks all,
Scott




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winamp remote

2007-11-24 Thread David Reynolds
Hi all,
Has anyone managed to get this working. It talks a good fight, but I've never 
actually managed to get logged on. I click on start winamp remote, and jaws 
says: winamp remote starting. Then it very helpfully says: winamp remote 
stopping.
I have verified my email address with orb, and have checked that I can log on.

Help!

David.

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Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ok, well my first comment is not to use DVD-R discs rather DVD-RW  
type, that way you can update things as you go along should you need to.
Yes, you can copy-paste your data to a DVD-RW disc as you would a CD  
and you can store whatever data you like, I suppose a DVD-RW can be  
thought of as a gigantic floppy disk in the way it can be written to  
or read from, that's very general of course.
Now to the interesting lot of tit-bits which talk about DVD Players  
and here it seems from my experience, we have no golden rules  
governing how DVD players will perform with MP3 files or even DVD  
discs. To illustrate the point, my Pioneer DVD player has no trouble  
whatever playing MP3/WMA content from a DVD disc but the Panasonic  
players I have just refuse to acknowledge them, the Panasonic's will  
only acknowledge or handle CD'S with MP3 or WMa.
Now having talked about my DVD players, I do know of some which handle  
everything which can be played by Windows players such as VLC, my  
Sister has one of these and it was picked up at one of our local  
discount stores for $29.00, the queue out the front was amazing  
 but the trade-off there was that the unit isn't of a very high  
quality.
Possibly the way to go is to get a dVD player which actually uses some  
form of LINUX, that way you can upgrade the player to match whatever  
formats you plan to use and I know these players do exist, I think a  
company called Kiss Technology make some.
Good luck with all that, I've gone down that road and I've not had any  
regrets whatsoever though my storage is slightly different than your  
in that I don't use MP3 or WMA, I use Cue and FLAC pairs but that's  
another story for another day.

On 24/11/2007, at 8:41 PM, Scott Blanks wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the
> purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I  
> realize
> however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my
> questions:
>
> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media  
> such as
> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,  
> the
> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to  
> the dvd
> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,  
> regardless of the
> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,  
> including
> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I  
> realize
> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to  
> this
> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a  
> large
> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a  
> person
> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders  
> and
> their files?
> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for  
> $26. Does
> this seem a good bargain?
>
> Thanks all,
> Scott
>
>
>
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Re: The advantages of flak?

2007-11-24 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:35:44 +1100, you wrote:

>FLAC IS LOSSLESS SO WHAT YOU HEAR IN THE ORIGINAL IS WHAT YOU HEAR  
>WITH FLAC.

Well, it's supposed to be. I've never read any test reports that say
what comes out equals what went in.  I can only hope it's that way.



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Re: The advantages of flak?

2007-11-24 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:17:10 -0700, you wrote:

>I've heard people speaking of flac but since my portable player will not play 
>it I 
>can't see going through the hastle of conversion just to upload to my ipod.

Well, if you don't have original media, like CD's, there's no need to
even worry about it, since the only thing you'd want to have in a
lossless format is original media content.



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Re: The advantages of flak?

2007-11-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
Depends on how you do it I guess, In my case I have all my music  
stored on DVD in Cue/FLAC pairs and I have MP3 conversions of the FLAC  
stuff on my external drive, that way I can put them onto a hard drive  
player, CD for one of the DVD players etc at the touch of a few  
buttons. What this approach has also meant is that I've been able to  
save a lot of space by getting rid of many CD'S I had been storing  
because affectively I have them on DVD stored and I can just what I  
want out when I need it should I need to make another CD copy of  
something I have. I've catalogued everything so I know where to look.

On 25/11/2007, at 1:36 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:17:10 -0700, you wrote:
>
>> I've heard people speaking of flac but since my portable player  
>> will not play it I
>> can't see going through the hastle of conversion just to upload to  
>> my ipod.
>
> Well, if you don't have original media, like CD's, there's no need to
> even worry about it, since the only thing you'd want to have in a
> lossless format is original media content.
>
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Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread dan thompson
Thank you Dane for the information and Scott for asking a question I long 
thought about how to ask.  I also have a few additional questions.
1.  Is it true you can store four gb of document files such as doc, rtf etc 
on a dvdrw?
2.  If I have a movie someone has sent me via email or put on   site for me 
to download, can I paste it onto a dvdrw and then view it on a standard dvd 
player hooked to a television



















































?
3.Is there a dvd recorder that hooks to a television that will truly 
talk even including the menus that  appear after the dvd is finished 
recording?  These menus usually ask for chapter names etc.  I  do have a 
"one touch" dvd recorder that will record by the press of one button. 
However, it is the menus that come up after the dvd is finished used for 
finalizing the actual movie for playing that are not accessible butg must be 
used to finalize the disc.   So  my wife finishes that part.

Thanks for any information in advance and have a great holiday season.   
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From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs


> Ok, well my first comment is not to use DVD-R discs rather DVD-RW
> type, that way you can update things as you go along should you need to.
> Yes, you can copy-paste your data to a DVD-RW disc as you would a CD
> and you can store whatever data you like, I suppose a DVD-RW can be
> thought of as a gigantic floppy disk in the way it can be written to
> or read from, that's very general of course.
> Now to the interesting lot of tit-bits which talk about DVD Players
> and here it seems from my experience, we have no golden rules
> governing how DVD players will perform with MP3 files or even DVD
> discs. To illustrate the point, my Pioneer DVD player has no trouble
> whatever playing MP3/WMA content from a DVD disc but the Panasonic
> players I have just refuse to acknowledge them, the Panasonic's will
> only acknowledge or handle CD'S with MP3 or WMa.
> Now having talked about my DVD players, I do know of some which handle
> everything which can be played by Windows players such as VLC, my
> Sister has one of these and it was picked up at one of our local
> discount stores for $29.00, the queue out the front was amazing
>  but the trade-off there was that the unit isn't of a very high
> quality.
> Possibly the way to go is to get a dVD player which actually uses some
> form of LINUX, that way you can upgrade the player to match whatever
> formats you plan to use and I know these players do exist, I think a
> company called Kiss Technology make some.
> Good luck with all that, I've gone down that road and I've not had any
> regrets whatsoever though my storage is slightly different than your
> in that I don't use MP3 or WMA, I use Cue and FLAC pairs but that's
> another story for another day.
>
> On 24/11/2007, at 8:41 PM, Scott Blanks wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the
>> purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I
>> realize
>> however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my
>> questions:
>>
>> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media
>> such as
>> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,
>> the
>> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to
>> the dvd
>> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
>> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,
>> regardless of the
>> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,
>> including
>> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I
>> realize
>> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to
>> this
>> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a
>> large
>> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a
>> person
>> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders
>> and
>> their files?
>> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for
>> $26. Does
>> this seem a good bargain?
>>
>> Thanks all,
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ok, well I can't answer your last question   as I'm not up to speed  
with the video side of things but yes, VD-RW's do hold around about 4  
gig of data, just to put that into some perspective regarding MP3  
tracks, you could get say around about 800  tracks on one DVD at  
excellent  quality, in my case with my cue and FLAC pairing, I get on  
average of about a dozen audio CD'S per DVD so a few little points for  
you to ponder.
Regarding DVD players? Well I've not heard of a talking DVD player but  
I wouldn't be surprised if such a thing was out there. What I'm  
actually planning on doing regarding that sort of thing is using a Mac  
Mini computer, it has an accesible DVD player as part of additional  
software you can get and you can buy accessible software to turn the  
machine into a fully-fledged accesible DVD player/recorder or fully  
fledged audio recorder.
Having said all that (and assuming that the pending release of Total  
Recorder v7 is as accessible as V6 is now) then you could probably do  
much the same thing as I plan to do with your PC, of course the  
difference here being that PC'S are generally large and don't look too  
good in a lounge area whereas Mac Mini computers are about the size of  
a Dual CD case, I have mine hidden in my wall unit so no one need know  
its there.
I I too have a DVD recording machine which sounds remarkably similar  
to the one you speak of, I can operate most functions of the machine  
including timer recording setting, editing of DVD'S (I need sighted  
assistance if I'm tackling the video side of things ) and  
playlist management. Mine is a Panasonic DVD/VCR combo which I've had  
for about 2 years now, it has 2 tuners in the machine so its very  
flexible. It also has "chase playback" for the DVD recorder side,  
start recording something, press the play or press a button to go back  
a minute or so in time and there you are, amazing. This recorder can  
use a variety of DVD formats but I use DVD-RAM for that, I know the  
Pioneer DVD-RW drive on my main PC will read those discs but I haven't  
worked out how to edit the files on the disc yet or with what.
Now I'm just talking as it happens to someone who has just installed a  
new 20 CD stacker in his car and low and behold, it plays various  
types of media including MP3, MP4, AAC+ and Cue/FLAC, what I'm  
interested to know from him is whether it will handle content on DVD  
Discs so he's going to try it later on today and I'll get back to the  
list with his results.

On 25/11/2007, at 2:43 AM, dan thompson wrote:

> Thank you Dane for the information and Scott for asking a question I  
> long
> thought about how to ask.  I also have a few additional questions.
> 1.  Is it true you can store four gb of document files such as doc,  
> rtf etc
> on a dvdrw?
> 2.  If I have a movie someone has sent me via email or put on   site  
> for me
> to download, can I paste it onto a dvdrw and then view it on a  
> standard dvd
> player hooked to a television
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> talk even including the menus that  appear after the dvd is finished
> recording?  These menus usually ask for chapter names etc.  I  do  
> have a
> "one touch" dvd recorder that will record by the press of one button.
> However, it is the menus that come up after the dvd is finished used  
> for
> finalizing the actual movie for playing that are not accessible butg  
> must be
> used to finalize the disc.   So  my wife finishes that part.
>
> Thanks for any information in advance and have a great holiday  
> season. 
> Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs
>
>
>> Ok, well my first comment is not to use DVD-R discs rather DVD-RW
>> type, that way you can update things as you go along should you  
>> need to.
>> Yes, you can copy-paste your data to a DVD-RW disc as you would a CD
>> and you can store whatever data you like, I suppose a DVD-RW can be
>> thought of as a gigantic floppy disk in the way it can be written to
>> or read from, that's very general of course.
>> Now to the interesting lot of tit-bits which talk about DVD Players
>> and here it seems from my experience, we have no golden rules
>> governing how DVD players will perform with MP3 files or even DVD
>> discs. To illustrate the point, my Pioneer DVD player has no trouble
>> whatever playing MP3/WMA content from a DVD disc but the Panasonic
>> players I have just refuse to acknowledge them, the Panasonic's will
>> only acknowledge or handle CD'S with MP3 or WMa.
>> Now having talked about my DVD players, I do know of some which  
>> handle
>> everything which can be played by Windows players such as VLC, my
>> Sister has one of these and it was picke

Re: Apples apples everywhere

2007-11-24 Thread Gary Wood
I also had an Apple 2E about that time.  I think that another speech 
synthesizer was called Votrax.  I don't remember if it was that one I used, 
or another, but I remember those back then.  Now, I believe that the new 
system they're using is called Leopard, so the Mack went from a Tiger to a 
Leopard.  I have Windows, but those who use Macks like them.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Apples apples everywhere


> Ok, well tha'ts not quite either and 20 years ago I was indeed using an
> Apple 2/E computer. The Echo 2/+ which you're refering to was known then 
> as
> "an expansion" card which fitted into an "expansion slot", much like 
> today's
> PC cards fit into slots inside the computer. This card had nothing 
> whatever
> to do with the sounds generated by the Apple, that was done through the
> Apple's CPU through the Apple's internal speaker.
> The Echo did however have some sound chips onboard which allowed for 
> various
> extra sounds to be added, you could program the thing to play music, I 
> have
> some compositions somewhere both as demo stuff and some I tried to write
> using Applesoft basic. Yes, you could I suppose call the Echo a sound card
> but it wasn't, it was supposed to be a voice synthesizer if you can see 
> what
> I'm getting at.
> Now if you want to use another example of what I believe you're talking
> about, my Doubletalk Lt, it also has some sound chips on it and you can
> programme the thing to make some basic sounds, sound DTMF tones and the 
> like
> so in that way, my Doubletalk LT and the Echo are similar.
> As a final tribute to the Echo, have a listen to one if you can, boy! 
> We've
> sure come a hell of a long way in regard to voice synthesis.
> Now in April this year, the Operating System for the Mac was indeed Tiger
> and the Screen Reader was indeed built-into or part of that, speech has
> actually been part of every Apple OS for Mac since version 4 I think so 
> the
> logical extension was a built-in Screen Reader. Outspoken for example,
> didn't have its own speech rather it used the speech provided by the OS.
> You talk of Screen Readers 20 years ago for the Apple. Well as far as I 
> know
> (and someone could correct me on this) but there wasn't a screen reader 
> for
> the Apple at that time, rahter software such as Wordtalk was designed 
> "from
> the ground-up" as an accessible word processor with a variety of voice
> synthesizers.
> Now to be absolutely clear on this, I don't know exactly when Outspoken 
> for
> the Mac arrived on the scene but I'm absolutely sure that it wasn't around
> 20 years ago, Mac computers back then were around but very few and very
> rare, the main Apple computers in use at the time were the Apple 2/E and 
> the
> amazing (for the time) Apple 2/GS (GS standing for Graphics Sound).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:26 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>
> High Dane,
> 20 years ago, the screen reader for the MACKS were built in to the sound
> cards.
> But back then, they were called echo speech synthesizers.
> It was a good while back I thank in April or May of this year, someone on
> this list said that tiger was a screen reader for the MACKS.
> OXX systems I've heard of, but I've never heard of that one,so please
> forgive me.
> I only said I'd like to see them in action because I wonder how much has
> changed in MACKS cense the last 20 years.
> How are those sound cards sat up these days?
> And thanks for the corrections.
>  John.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:10 AM
> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>
>
>> Ok, just to correct you on a couple of points here. Tiger was an 
>> operating
>> system for the Mac (like say Windows for the PC) but it has now become
>> superseeded.
>> The Mac Screen Reader is indeed VoiceOver but it is not built-in to the
>> Sound Card rather its part of the Mac Operating System, it has been sine
>> 2005.
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 4:56 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>
>> Hello Tyler,
>> There is a screen reader for the Mack systems.
>> It's called Tiger, and it's built in to the sound card.
>> I haven't played with a Mack in more then 20 years, but I here that it's
>> more assessable then Windows.
>> I don't know this for sure, like you I would like to see it in action 
>> too.
>>  John.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Timberwolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> S

Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread nick danger
Hi Scott,

I'll try to answer as much of this as I can considering I do this style of 
backup all the time. I took each of the questions you have and the answers 
are right beneath.  So pardon the length of this gang and please feel free 
to weigh in if I've missed anything.

1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media such as
WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term, the
same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to the dvd
drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?

Answer:

There are two answers here.  First, Yes burning is the correct term, and you 
can save audio files such as MP3's on them just like you would a data CD.

As for the second question here.  No, you cannot use windows media player to 
burn DVD'S  unless you're running vissta and that's a whole different kettle 
of fish.  You can get a program called deep burner which is a free 
rom-burning tool for the procedure. Go to http://www.deepburner.com to grab 
it.  It's totally accessible and very screen reader friendly.  I use it when 
I don't feel like using nero.  Grins. If you get the program just e-mail me 
offlist and I will help you with the burning procedure.  It's no problem.

2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc, regardless of the
method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players, including
video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I realize
there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to this
question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a large
number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a person
using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders and
their files?

Answer: On this one, I'm not totally however, I believe so, DVD rom-players 
can play just about anything that you stick in them.  Audio or video.  So 
that should not be a problem, and a person with sight should be able to see 
what's on it.  If anyone wants to weigh in on this, please do.

3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for $26. Does
this seem a good bargain?

Answer: It's not a bad deal at all. I may consider buying them from there 
myself.  Thanks for that tip.

Hopefully I was able to help.

Tony
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To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:41 AM
Subject: understanding Dvd-r discs


Hi all,

Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the
purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I realize
however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my
questions:

1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media such as
WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term, the
same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to the dvd
drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc, regardless of the
method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players, including
video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I realize
there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to this
question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a large
number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a person
using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders and
their files?
3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for $26. Does
this seem a good bargain?

Thanks all,
Scott




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RE: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread albert griffith
How many of these disks are on a spindle?

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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:08 AM
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Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

Hi Scott,

I'll try to answer as much of this as I can considering I do this style of
backup all the time. I took each of the questions you have and the answers
are right beneath.  So pardon the length of this gang and please feel free
to weigh in if I've missed anything.

1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media such as
WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term, the
same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to the dvd
drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?

Answer:

There are two answers here.  First, Yes burning is the correct term, and you
can save audio files such as MP3's on them just like you would a data CD.

As for the second question here.  No, you cannot use windows media player to
burn DVD'S  unless you're running vissta and that's a whole different kettle
of fish.  You can get a program called deep burner which is a free
rom-burning tool for the procedure. Go to http://www.deepburner.com to grab
it.  It's totally accessible and very screen reader friendly.  I use it when
I don't feel like using nero.  Grins. If you get the program just e-mail me
offlist and I will help you with the burning procedure.  It's no problem.

2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc, regardless of the
method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players, including
video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I realize
there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to this
question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a large
number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a person
using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders and
their files?

Answer: On this one, I'm not totally however, I believe so, DVD rom-players
can play just about anything that you stick in them.  Audio or video.  So
that should not be a problem, and a person with sight should be able to see
what's on it.  If anyone wants to weigh in on this, please do.

3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for $26. Does
this seem a good bargain?

Answer: It's not a bad deal at all. I may consider buying them from there
myself.  Thanks for that tip.

Hopefully I was able to help.

Tony
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Blanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:41 AM
Subject: understanding Dvd-r discs


Hi all,

Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the
purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I realize
however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my
questions:

1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media such as
WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term, the
same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to the dvd
drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc, regardless of the
method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players, including
video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I realize
there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to this
question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a large
number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a person
using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders and
their files?
3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for $26. Does
this seem a good bargain?

Thanks all,
Scott




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Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
You can get them in packs of 50 as you can with audio CD'S. Acutally  
one of our supermarkets down here isn't selling audio CD'S any more,  
just blank DVD R's, RW'S RAM etc.

On 25/11/2007, at 4:34 AM, albert griffith wrote:

> How many of these disks are on a spindle?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> ]
> On Behalf Of nick danger
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:08 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I'll try to answer as much of this as I can considering I do this  
> style of
> backup all the time. I took each of the questions you have and the  
> answers
> are right beneath.  So pardon the length of this gang and please  
> feel free
> to weigh in if I've missed anything.
>
> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media  
> such as
> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,  
> the
> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to  
> the dvd
> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
>
> Answer:
>
> There are two answers here.  First, Yes burning is the correct term,  
> and you
> can save audio files such as MP3's on them just like you would a  
> data CD.
>
> As for the second question here.  No, you cannot use windows media  
> player to
> burn DVD'S  unless you're running vissta and that's a whole  
> different kettle
> of fish.  You can get a program called deep burner which is a free
> rom-burning tool for the procedure. Go to http://www.deepburner.com  
> to grab
> it.  It's totally accessible and very screen reader friendly.  I use  
> it when
> I don't feel like using nero.  Grins. If you get the program just e- 
> mail me
> offlist and I will help you with the burning procedure.  It's no  
> problem.
>
> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,  
> regardless of the
> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,  
> including
> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I  
> realize
> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to  
> this
> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a  
> large
> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a  
> person
> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders  
> and
> their files?
>
> Answer: On this one, I'm not totally however, I believe so, DVD rom- 
> players
> can play just about anything that you stick in them.  Audio or  
> video.  So
> that should not be a problem, and a person with sight should be able  
> to see
> what's on it.  If anyone wants to weigh in on this, please do.
>
> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for  
> $26. Does
> this seem a good bargain?
>
> Answer: It's not a bad deal at all. I may consider buying them from  
> there
> myself.  Thanks for that tip.
>
> Hopefully I was able to help.
>
> Tony
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Blanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:41 AM
> Subject: understanding Dvd-r discs
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the
> purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I  
> realize
> however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my
> questions:
>
> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media  
> such as
> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,  
> the
> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to  
> the dvd
> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,  
> regardless of the
> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,  
> including
> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I  
> realize
> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to  
> this
> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a  
> large
> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a  
> person
> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders  
> and
> their files?
> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for  
> $26. Does
> this seem a good bargain?
>
> Thanks all,
> Scott
>
>
>
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Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
Thought I'd follow this up with the cost factor. DVD-R discs I can buy  
for $20.00 for a spindle of 50, DVD-RW'S about $29.00 for 50. DVD-RAM  
discs are considerably more expensive and they don't come on a  
spindle, they've about $2.50 each and they come in a standard-type CD  
case, they can be used for 1000 re-writes.

On 25/11/2007, at 4:34 AM, albert griffith wrote:

> How many of these disks are on a spindle?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> ]
> On Behalf Of nick danger
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:08 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I'll try to answer as much of this as I can considering I do this  
> style of
> backup all the time. I took each of the questions you have and the  
> answers
> are right beneath.  So pardon the length of this gang and please  
> feel free
> to weigh in if I've missed anything.
>
> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media  
> such as
> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,  
> the
> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to  
> the dvd
> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
>
> Answer:
>
> There are two answers here.  First, Yes burning is the correct term,  
> and you
> can save audio files such as MP3's on them just like you would a  
> data CD.
>
> As for the second question here.  No, you cannot use windows media  
> player to
> burn DVD'S  unless you're running vissta and that's a whole  
> different kettle
> of fish.  You can get a program called deep burner which is a free
> rom-burning tool for the procedure. Go to http://www.deepburner.com  
> to grab
> it.  It's totally accessible and very screen reader friendly.  I use  
> it when
> I don't feel like using nero.  Grins. If you get the program just e- 
> mail me
> offlist and I will help you with the burning procedure.  It's no  
> problem.
>
> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,  
> regardless of the
> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,  
> including
> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I  
> realize
> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to  
> this
> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a  
> large
> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a  
> person
> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders  
> and
> their files?
>
> Answer: On this one, I'm not totally however, I believe so, DVD rom- 
> players
> can play just about anything that you stick in them.  Audio or  
> video.  So
> that should not be a problem, and a person with sight should be able  
> to see
> what's on it.  If anyone wants to weigh in on this, please do.
>
> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for  
> $26. Does
> this seem a good bargain?
>
> Answer: It's not a bad deal at all. I may consider buying them from  
> there
> myself.  Thanks for that tip.
>
> Hopefully I was able to help.
>
> Tony
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Blanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:41 AM
> Subject: understanding Dvd-r discs
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the
> purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I  
> realize
> however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my
> questions:
>
> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media  
> such as
> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,  
> the
> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to  
> the dvd
> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,  
> regardless of the
> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,  
> including
> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I  
> realize
> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to  
> this
> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a  
> large
> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a  
> person
> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders  
> and
> their files?
> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for  
> $26. Does
> this seem a good bargain?
>
> Thanks all,
> Scott
>
>
>
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RE: The advantages of flak?

2007-11-24 Thread albert griffith
According to what you say, flak is no better than WMA lossless.

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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:31 AM
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Subject: Re: The advantages of flak?

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:35:44 +1100, you wrote:

>FLAC IS LOSSLESS SO WHAT YOU HEAR IN THE ORIGINAL IS WHAT YOU HEAR WITH
>FLAC.

Well, it's supposed to be. I've never read any test reports that say what
comes out equals what went in.  I can only hope it's that way.



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still looking for girltalk by Lesley gore

2007-11-24 Thread Dan Thompson
If anyone has girl talk by lesley gore, please put it up on sendspace. 
Thanks much in advance.





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Re: still looking for girltalk by Lesley gore

2007-11-24 Thread Tom
The rules specifically state that requesting music on this 
list is not permitted.  Also you are asking someone to do 
something illegal.

** Original Message From: Dan Thompson **
>If anyone has girl talk by lesley gore, please put it up on 
>sendspace.




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Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread Sunshine
The Mac Minnie, does it have a seperate screen or is the screen built in? 
and about how much does a mac minnie cost?
and what os does it run?
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs


> Ok, well I can't answer your last question   as I'm not up to speed
> with the video side of things but yes, VD-RW's do hold around about 4
> gig of data, just to put that into some perspective regarding MP3
> tracks, you could get say around about 800  tracks on one DVD at
> excellent  quality, in my case with my cue and FLAC pairing, I get on
> average of about a dozen audio CD'S per DVD so a few little points for
> you to ponder.
> Regarding DVD players? Well I've not heard of a talking DVD player but
> I wouldn't be surprised if such a thing was out there. What I'm
> actually planning on doing regarding that sort of thing is using a Mac
> Mini computer, it has an accesible DVD player as part of additional
> software you can get and you can buy accessible software to turn the
> machine into a fully-fledged accesible DVD player/recorder or fully
> fledged audio recorder.
> Having said all that (and assuming that the pending release of Total
> Recorder v7 is as accessible as V6 is now) then you could probably do
> much the same thing as I plan to do with your PC, of course the
> difference here being that PC'S are generally large and don't look too
> good in a lounge area whereas Mac Mini computers are about the size of
> a Dual CD case, I have mine hidden in my wall unit so no one need know
> its there.
> I I too have a DVD recording machine which sounds remarkably similar
> to the one you speak of, I can operate most functions of the machine
> including timer recording setting, editing of DVD'S (I need sighted
> assistance if I'm tackling the video side of things ) and
> playlist management. Mine is a Panasonic DVD/VCR combo which I've had
> for about 2 years now, it has 2 tuners in the machine so its very
> flexible. It also has "chase playback" for the DVD recorder side,
> start recording something, press the play or press a button to go back
> a minute or so in time and there you are, amazing. This recorder can
> use a variety of DVD formats but I use DVD-RAM for that, I know the
> Pioneer DVD-RW drive on my main PC will read those discs but I haven't
> worked out how to edit the files on the disc yet or with what.
> Now I'm just talking as it happens to someone who has just installed a
> new 20 CD stacker in his car and low and behold, it plays various
> types of media including MP3, MP4, AAC+ and Cue/FLAC, what I'm
> interested to know from him is whether it will handle content on DVD
> Discs so he's going to try it later on today and I'll get back to the
> list with his results.
>
> On 25/11/2007, at 2:43 AM, dan thompson wrote:
>
>> Thank you Dane for the information and Scott for asking a question I
>> long
>> thought about how to ask.  I also have a few additional questions.
>> 1.  Is it true you can store four gb of document files such as doc,
>> rtf etc
>> on a dvdrw?
>> 2.  If I have a movie someone has sent me via email or put on   site
>> for me
>> to download, can I paste it onto a dvdrw and then view it on a
>> standard dvd
>> player hooked to a television
>>
>>
>>
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>> 3.Is there a dvd recorder that hooks to a television that will
>> truly
>> talk even including the menus that  appear after the dvd is finished
>> recording?  These menus usually ask for chapter names etc.  I  do
>> have a
>> "one touch" dvd recorder that will record by the press of one button.
>> However, it is the menus that come up after the dvd is finished used
>> for
>> finalizing the actual movie for playing that are not accessible butg
>> must be
>> used to finalize the disc.   So  my wife finishes that part.
>>
>> Thanks for any information in advance and have a great holiday
>> season. 
>> Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs
>>
>>
>>> Ok, well my first comment is not to use DVD-R discs rather DVD-RW
>>> type, that way you can update things as you go along should you
>>> need to.
>>> Yes, you can copy-paste your data to a DVD-RW disc as you would a CD
>>> and you can store whatever data you like, I suppose a DVD-RW can be
>>> thought of as a gigantic floppy disk in the way it can be written to
>>> or read from, that's very general of course.
>>> Now to the interesting lot of tit-bits which talk about DVD Players
>>> and here it seems from my experience, we have no golden rules
>>> governing how DVD players will perform with MP3 files or even DVD
>>> discs. To illustrate the point, m

Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Kelly Pierce
I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the 
download link at:

http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html

The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can 
transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My 
screen name is kellyjosef.

Kelly


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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: A new conversion utility:


>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
> symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted.  He
> won't allow it to be sold and doesn't accept affiliate sites.
> www.erightsoft.info
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RE: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread albert griffith
It seems this is the only distribution site.  They want no affiliates.  My
download was running at 36KPBS.

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I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the
download link at:

http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html

The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can
transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My
screen name is kellyjosef.

Kelly


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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: A new conversion utility:


>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
> symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted.  He
> won't allow it to be sold and doesn't accept affiliate sites.
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Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Fazil M.
I'm sorry, what does this utility do?\
Thanks!


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Sent: Saturday, 24 November, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:


> I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the
> download link at:
>
> http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
>
> The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can
> transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My
> screen name is kellyjosef.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
> Subject: A new conversion utility:
>
>
>>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
>> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
>> symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted.  He
>> won't allow it to be sold and doesn't accept affiliate sites.
>> www.erightsoft.info
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RE: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread albert griffith
It converts files from one format to another and it's free.

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On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:

I'm sorry, what does this utility do?\
Thanks!


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Sent: Saturday, 24 November, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:


> I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the
> download link at:
>
> http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
>
> The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can
> transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My
> screen name is kellyjosef.
>
> Kelly
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
> Subject: A new conversion utility:
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>>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
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Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Sarah
Hello. can ou upload it to sendspace when o are done getting it? I can't get 
aim working with bitlbee  for the moment.

SA&G
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Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:


I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the 
download link at:

http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html

The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can 
transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My 
screen name is kellyjosef.

Kelly


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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: A new conversion utility:


>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
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> symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted.  He
> won't allow it to be sold and doesn't accept affiliate sites.
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RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC

2007-11-24 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi.  This is why it's really, really important to make sure that you 
don't just click yes like a mad man when you're going through these 
installs. I've had like 5 other people on the list I run have similar 
issues, and I can't imagine how everyone misses these checkboxes to 
install the Winamp remote, and the Winamp toolbar for Internet explorer.

. Now, because I chose the custom install instead of the standard 
one, that's probably why the check boxes showed up.  But anymore when 
it comes to installing a media player, and yes sadly Winamp nowadays 
even, it's really important to always choose the custom 
install.  That way you know *exactly* what's happening during the 
instalation and can avoid any other weird software being installed 
that you don't want on your machine.  Believe me, I went through this 
too, and my atempt isn't to chide or look down on anyone else for not 
knowing, it's quite the opposite. I want to help folks to not make 
the same mistakes I made and had to fix later.

Hope that helps.

At 04:25 AM 11/22/2007, you wrote:
>They do try to slam you with a tool bar but I can't remember which one.  It
>seems to be the latest fad in the land of media players.  Real 11 just tried
>to get me to take fire Fox and the Google tool bar. they even set fire Fox
>as the default browser and I didn't know for a while even after I'd
>uninstalled it.  You'd have thought the configuration would have reverted to
>I.E. when I removed fire fox, but know, smile.
>
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>On Behalf Of Gary Wood
>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:11 PM
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>Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>
>It seems like I got a toolbar with this latest version of Winamp that I had
>to uninstall.  It seemed to mess some things up for me.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:46 PM
>Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>
>
> > Yes, I actually agree with you, I've found Winamp to be a consistent
> > performer until version 5.5 for some reason.
> > Of course (Windows being what it is) there may be some sort of
> > conflict somewhere on my system which Winamp involves itself in.
> > I just think quite frankly that Winamp is becoming one of those pieces
> > of software providing features to try and suit everyone, in other
> > words its becoming big and bloated, a bit like Sound Forge has become
> > in many ways but again that's just my view.
> > Yeah, VLC looks as though it was born and bred to run on a network
> > doesn't it, perhaps you should try adjusting some of the many tweeks
> > and preferences Chris if you're having trouble playing some streams, I
> > haven't gone into this area thoroughly as yet, I haven't had the need
> > to but (if my experience is anything to go by wiusing the Mac version
> > of VLC) you'll be able to fix any problems which arise without too
> > much trouble.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 4:35 AM
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> > Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
> >
> > I also have VLC Media player and it's a very interesting little
> > program. It plays some file types better than others on my system and
> > if you have your computers on a network it works great.   Now, this
> > Winamp issue...I've been using Windows in all its versions for 10
> > years, 95, 98 SE, XP and I'm sure at some point, i'll even give into
> > Vista.  But in all that time, I can say with absolute certainty that
> > Winamp has never caused my computer to crash, in other words just
> > running Winamp never made my computer crash.  I would suspect that in
> > Dane's case, there are other issues with the computer he is using to
> > run Windows. It just saddens me that we have people trashing each
> > other's choices of an operating system, we all need to remember that
> > everyone's needs are different and while some prefer windows, others
> > prefer Apple Macks. Let's quit all the mean little jabs here.
> > You don't see me sitting there calling  the apple mack a trashbox, so
> > I would expect that people would respect my choice even though they
> > may disagree with it.  Come on now.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  At 10:16 AM 11/20/2007, you wrote:
> >>Really? Well VLC actually (let the truth be told) is Open source and
> >>is a cross platform media player.
> >>We have a publication in our newspaper The Age every Thursday and VLC
> >>has been getting rave reviews for the PC in it for quite some time,
> >>had I not needed to come back to Trashbox PC then I wouldn't have
> >>bothered investigating.
> >>Anyhow, for those who want to try something tha's nice and small and
> >>runs very nicely then have a look.
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message--

Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Kelly Pierce
My download ran at 6 kbps and I have DSL!

Kelly


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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: A new conversion utility:


> It seems this is the only distribution site.  They want no affiliates. 
> My
> download was running at 36KPBS.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:17 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:
>
> I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the
> download link at:
>
> http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
>
> The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can
> transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My
> screen name is kellyjosef.
>
> Kelly
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
> Subject: A new conversion utility:
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>
>>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
>> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
>> symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted. 
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Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Timothy
Did the program actualy work for anybody? I'm using JAWS 7.  Please reply 
and tell me how it went.  It gave me an error when I gave it a file to 
ocnvert to mp3.  It gave me an error message and told me to click to get 
more info of what the eror was.  I couldn't click it.

From,
A fustrated Timothy


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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: A new conversion utility:


It seems this is the only distribution site.  They want no affiliates.  My
download was running at 36KPBS.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:17 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:

I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the
download link at:

http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html

The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can
transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My
screen name is kellyjosef.

Kelly


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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: A new conversion utility:


>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
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RE: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Paul Henrichsen
I couldn't seem to find any link to download the program.


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Subject: A new conversion utility:

I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted.  He
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RE: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Even my sighted wife gave up after a while. She said the page was too
confusing.


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Subject: RE: A new conversion utility:

finding the link is rather difficult. 

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On Behalf Of Sarah
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:

Looks good but th edownload link to try this is near to impossible to find!
either that or it's not very  obvious.

SA&G
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Subject: A new conversion utility:


I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
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symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted.  He
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Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Kelly Pierce
No problem.  will do.

Kelly


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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:57 PM
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> Hello. can ou upload it to sendspace when o are done getting it? I can't 
> get aim working with bitlbee  for the moment.
>
> SA&G
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> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:
>
>
> I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the
> download link at:
>
> http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
>
> The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can
> transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My
> screen name is kellyjosef.
>
> Kelly
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
> Subject: A new conversion utility:
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>
>>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
>> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
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RE: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread albert griffith
I took the link fro a blog for sightlings and the author said he'd posted it
because it was difficult to find.

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Subject: RE: A new conversion utility:

Even my sighted wife gave up after a while. She said the page was too
confusing.


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Subject: RE: A new conversion utility:

finding the link is rather difficult.

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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:

Looks good but th edownload link to try this is near to impossible to find!
either that or it's not very  obvious.

SA&G
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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:44 AM
Subject: A new conversion utility:


I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
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symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted.  He
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Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Rick Harmon
me either, found a start download link but everytime I clicked it nothing 
happened.

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I couldn't seem to find any link to download the program.


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Subject: A new conversion utility:

I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
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Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread Timothy
I'd do it, but I have a really slow upload speed

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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:


No problem.  will do.

Kelly


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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:


> Hello. can ou upload it to sendspace when o are done getting it? I can't 
> get aim working with bitlbee  for the moment.
>
> SA&G
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: A new conversion utility:
>
>
> I'm downloading it now.  the download speed is rather slow.  I found the
> download link at:
>
> http://www.erightsoft.net/S6Kg1.html
>
> The file will take more than an hour to download from this site.  I can
> transfer it to interested folks once I get it.  Just zap me on AIM.  My
> screen name is kellyjosef.
>
> Kelly
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:44 AM
> Subject: A new conversion utility:
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>>I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
>> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
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sorry to list and tom

2007-11-24 Thread Dan Thompson
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Supercopyright Download

2007-11-24 Thread Kelly Pierce
Here's the info from Send Space:

File Name: SUPERsetup.exe
Size: 26MB  
Description: supercopyright file converter 
Download Link: 
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0wqe4z 


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looking for demo of pc creator

2007-11-24 Thread blsmass
Does anybody have an address for premier CD creator?  I bought it before
but can't find it and need to reinstall it.  I don't want to buy a new
copy, but my computer got hit with a trojan horse or something and it
disconnected the programs from its objects or something and I wanted to
reinstall it and see if that would work.  I will have to reinstall
everything or get a new computer.  Thanks.  Kurt  


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Re: looking for demo of pc creator

2007-11-24 Thread Casey
www.readingmadeez.com


Casey


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Does anybody have an address for premier CD creator?  I bought it before
but can't find it and need to reinstall it.  I don't want to buy a new
copy, but my computer got hit with a trojan horse or something and it
disconnected the programs from its objects or something and I wanted to
reinstall it and see if that would work.  I will have to reinstall
everything or get a new computer.  Thanks.  Kurt  


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Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC

2007-11-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
Good point.
One of the great things worth having around is the software called  
Rollback, that way if Winamp or other software doesn't function or  
isn't as accesible as you think it ought to be then you can just go  
back to a point before the install as though nothing had happened.

On 25/11/2007, at 6:56 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

> Hi.  This is why it's really, really important to make sure that you
> don't just click yes like a mad man when you're going through these
> installs. I've had like 5 other people on the list I run have similar
> issues, and I can't imagine how everyone misses these checkboxes to
> install the Winamp remote, and the Winamp toolbar for Internet  
> explorer.
>
> . Now, because I chose the custom install instead of the standard
> one, that's probably why the check boxes showed up.  But anymore when
> it comes to installing a media player, and yes sadly Winamp nowadays
> even, it's really important to always choose the custom
> install.  That way you know *exactly* what's happening during the
> instalation and can avoid any other weird software being installed
> that you don't want on your machine.  Believe me, I went through this
> too, and my atempt isn't to chide or look down on anyone else for not
> knowing, it's quite the opposite. I want to help folks to not make
> the same mistakes I made and had to fix later.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> At 04:25 AM 11/22/2007, you wrote:
>> They do try to slam you with a tool bar but I can't remember which  
>> one.  It
>> seems to be the latest fad in the land of media players.  Real 11  
>> just tried
>> to get me to take fire Fox and the Google tool bar. they even set  
>> fire Fox
>> as the default browser and I didn't know for a while even after I'd
>> uninstalled it.  You'd have thought the configuration would have  
>> reverted to
>> I.E. when I removed fire fox, but know, smile.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Gary Wood
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:11 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>
>> It seems like I got a toolbar with this latest version of Winamp  
>> that I had
>> to uninstall.  It seemed to mess some things up for me.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:46 PM
>> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>
>>
>>> Yes, I actually agree with you, I've found Winamp to be a consistent
>>> performer until version 5.5 for some reason.
>>> Of course (Windows being what it is) there may be some sort of
>>> conflict somewhere on my system which Winamp involves itself in.
>>> I just think quite frankly that Winamp is becoming one of those  
>>> pieces
>>> of software providing features to try and suit everyone, in other
>>> words its becoming big and bloated, a bit like Sound Forge has  
>>> become
>>> in many ways but again that's just my view.
>>> Yeah, VLC looks as though it was born and bred to run on a network
>>> doesn't it, perhaps you should try adjusting some of the many tweeks
>>> and preferences Chris if you're having trouble playing some  
>>> streams, I
>>> haven't gone into this area thoroughly as yet, I haven't had the  
>>> need
>>> to but (if my experience is anything to go by wiusing the Mac  
>>> version
>>> of VLC) you'll be able to fix any problems which arise without too
>>> much trouble.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 4:35 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
>>>
>>> I also have VLC Media player and it's a very interesting little
>>> program. It plays some file types better than others on my system  
>>> and
>>> if you have your computers on a network it works great.   Now, this
>>> Winamp issue...I've been using Windows in all its versions for 10
>>> years, 95, 98 SE, XP and I'm sure at some point, i'll even give into
>>> Vista.  But in all that time, I can say with absolute certainty that
>>> Winamp has never caused my computer to crash, in other words just
>>> running Winamp never made my computer crash.  I would suspect that  
>>> in
>>> Dane's case, there are other issues with the computer he is using to
>>> run Windows. It just saddens me that we have people trashing each
>>> other's choices of an operating system, we all need to remember that
>>> everyone's needs are different and while some prefer windows, others
>>> prefer Apple Macks. Let's quit all the mean little jabs here.
>>> You don't see me sitting there calling  the apple mack a trashbox,  
>>> so
>>> I would expect that people would respect my choice even though they
>>> may disagree with it.  Come on now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 10:16 AM 11/20/2007, you wrote:
 Really? Well 

free dvd copying program

2007-11-24 Thread blsmass
Does anybody know of a free DVD making or copy program?  I need to take
stuff off this drive and don't have a program to do it.  Any suggestions
would be welcome.  Kurt 


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Re: The advantages of flak?

2007-11-24 Thread David Tanner
So, if I understand you right taking audio from a cd to flac would not 
improve over what was on the original cd?  So, I am guessing that the flac 
format would only be worth using if you were recording original material 
from a live source?



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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:36 AM
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> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:17:10 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>I've heard people speaking of flac but since my portable player will not 
>>play it I
>>can't see going through the hastle of conversion just to upload to my 
>>ipod.
>
> Well, if you don't have original media, like CD's, there's no need to
> even worry about it, since the only thing you'd want to have in a
> lossless format is original media content.
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Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread David Tanner
What is DVD - RAM and how do they differ from double density DVDs?


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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs


> Thought I'd follow this up with the cost factor. DVD-R discs I can buy
> for $20.00 for a spindle of 50, DVD-RW'S about $29.00 for 50. DVD-RAM
> discs are considerably more expensive and they don't come on a
> spindle, they've about $2.50 each and they come in a standard-type CD
> case, they can be used for 1000 re-writes.
>
> On 25/11/2007, at 4:34 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>
>> How many of these disks are on a spindle?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of nick danger
>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:08 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> I'll try to answer as much of this as I can considering I do this
>> style of
>> backup all the time. I took each of the questions you have and the
>> answers
>> are right beneath.  So pardon the length of this gang and please
>> feel free
>> to weigh in if I've missed anything.
>>
>> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media
>> such as
>> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,
>> the
>> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to
>> the dvd
>> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
>>
>> Answer:
>>
>> There are two answers here.  First, Yes burning is the correct term,
>> and you
>> can save audio files such as MP3's on them just like you would a
>> data CD.
>>
>> As for the second question here.  No, you cannot use windows media
>> player to
>> burn DVD'S  unless you're running vissta and that's a whole
>> different kettle
>> of fish.  You can get a program called deep burner which is a free
>> rom-burning tool for the procedure. Go to http://www.deepburner.com
>> to grab
>> it.  It's totally accessible and very screen reader friendly.  I use
>> it when
>> I don't feel like using nero.  Grins. If you get the program just e-
>> mail me
>> offlist and I will help you with the burning procedure.  It's no
>> problem.
>>
>> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,
>> regardless of the
>> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,
>> including
>> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I
>> realize
>> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to
>> this
>> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a
>> large
>> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a
>> person
>> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders
>> and
>> their files?
>>
>> Answer: On this one, I'm not totally however, I believe so, DVD rom-
>> players
>> can play just about anything that you stick in them.  Audio or
>> video.  So
>> that should not be a problem, and a person with sight should be able
>> to see
>> what's on it.  If anyone wants to weigh in on this, please do.
>>
>> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for
>> $26. Does
>> this seem a good bargain?
>>
>> Answer: It's not a bad deal at all. I may consider buying them from
>> there
>> myself.  Thanks for that tip.
>>
>> Hopefully I was able to help.
>>
>> Tony
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Blanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:41 AM
>> Subject: understanding Dvd-r discs
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the
>> purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I
>> realize
>> however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my
>> questions:
>>
>> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media
>> such as
>> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,
>> the
>> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to
>> the dvd
>> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
>> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,
>> regardless of the
>> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,
>> including
>> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I
>> realize
>> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to
>> this
>> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a
>> large
>> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a
>> person
>> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders
>> and
>> their files?
>> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for
>> $26. Does
>> this seem a good bargain?
>>
>> Thanks all,
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: free dvd copying program

2007-11-24 Thread nick danger
Hi kurt,

Go to http://www.deepburner.com and grab that for cophying data files to 
DVD.

Tony
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Does anybody know of a free DVD making or copy program?  I need to take
stuff off this drive and don't have a program to do it.  Any suggestions
would be welcome.  Kurt


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Re: still looking for girltalk by Lesley gore

2007-11-24 Thread David Tanner
Any idea which of her albums it would be on.  I have most of her albums so I 
just might have it.


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> If anyone has girl talk by lesley gore, please put it up on sendspace. 
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RE: The advantages of flak?

2007-11-24 Thread albert griffith
Flak will produce smaller files than wave files.  It's called lossless
because you lose no data in the conversion process.  so, it's not just for
live recordings.  It's a way to transfer sound files from a CD to your
computer without losing sound quality.  However, it's not the only lossless
compression option.  Microsoft has its own, WMA lossless and there  are
others.

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Subject: Re: The advantages of flak?

So, if I understand you right taking audio from a cd to flac would not
improve over what was on the original cd?  So, I am guessing that the flac
format would only be worth using if you were recording original material
from a live source?



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> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:17:10 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>I've heard people speaking of flac but since my portable player will not
>>play it I
>>can't see going through the hastle of conversion just to upload to my
>>ipod.
>
> Well, if you don't have original media, like CD's, there's no need to
> even worry about it, since the only thing you'd want to have in a
> lossless format is original media content.
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Re: still looking for girltalk by Lesley gore

2007-11-24 Thread usabill
let me look in my l p's I believe I have it.

Bill Sheen
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> Any idea which of her albums it would be on.  I have most of her albums so 
> I
> just might have it.
>
>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:06 PM
> Subject: still looking for girltalk by Lesley gore
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>
>> If anyone has girl talk by lesley gore, please put it up on sendspace.
>> Thanks much in advance.
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Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread usabill
I could not get it to work.
Maybe I will try again tomorrow, and the link will be fixed.
Merry Christmas

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> That makes two of us.  Or should I say,  I found a link to 
> startdownloading
> it, but it didn't work.
>
>
>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:44 PM
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>>I couldn't seem to find any link to download the program.
>>
>>
>> Paul Henrichsen
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>> Subject: A new conversion utility:
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>> I receive a news letter, Gizmo Richards, and he mentioned his favorite
>> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
>> symbol not the word.  It's free and the developer seems real devoted.  He
>> won't allow it to be sold and doesn't accept affiliate sites.
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Re: A new conversion utility:

2007-11-24 Thread David Tanner
That makes two of us.  Or should I say,  I found a link to startdownloading 
it, but it didn't work.



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>I couldn't seem to find any link to download the program.
>
>
> Paul Henrichsen
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> converter software was super copyright, the copyright is made with the
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Re: Stereo Translater Question

2007-11-24 Thread Doc
Maybe you need to contact their supervisor.  I ordered mine over the phone 
because I kept having problems with the web page.
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> High Dock,
> I don't have that program.
> I'd get it, but they won't let you place an order for it over the phone.
> You have to protect your credit card info if you know what I mean.
>  John.
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>
>
>> How about rerecording them via total recorder then you could save them in
>> stereo,
>> somewhat.
>>
>> **
>> My drinking team has a bowling problem.
>>
>>
>> robert Doc Wright
>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
>> msn
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>>
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>> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question
>>
>>
>> High Dock,
>> These old TV shows are on the net as .ave files.
>> So how can I rip them unless I burn them to VCD first?
>>  John.
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>> Subject: Re: Stereo Translater Question
>>
>>
>>> Only thing I can suggest is to rip them as a wave, open in gold wave or
>>> sound forge
>>> and resave as a stereo wave file.  Then you could reedit and enhance the
>>> stereo
>>> field.  It won't get true stereo which isn't really possible starting 
>>> out
>>> with a mono
>>> file but you can simulate.
>>>
>>> **
>>> My drinking team has a bowling problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> robert Doc Wright
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>>> Hello list members,
>>> I'm checking out some old TV shows on the net.
>>> They're in the .ave format if I'm spelling that right.
>>> As far as the audio goes, they all are in mono.
>>> Is there a peace of stereo translater software out there that any of you
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Re: The advantages of flak?

2007-11-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
If you want something compressed which sounds exactly like the  
original then FLAC or other lossless formats are perfect for this sort  
of thing, FLAC is probably the most widely supported form of lossles  
compression around but there are others and as I pointed out earlier,  
there are a lot of devices and players out there which will play it, I  
know that Rockbox has no trouble with cue and FLAC files etc.
Forgive me repeating myself but I store my CD'S in Cue-FLAC pairs,  
that way I have the original should I need to run off a copy and I was  
able to save a whole heap of space by ridding myself of close to 3,000  
CD'S.

On 25/11/2007, at 3:50 PM, David Tanner wrote:

> So, if I understand you right taking audio from a cd to flac would not
> improve over what was on the original cd?  So, I am guessing that  
> the flac
> format would only be worth using if you were recording original  
> material
> from a live source?
>
>
>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 8:36 AM
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>> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:17:10 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>> I've heard people speaking of flac but since my portable player  
>>> will not
>>> play it I
>>> can't see going through the hastle of conversion just to upload to  
>>> my
>>> ipod.
>>
>> Well, if you don't have original media, like CD's, there's no need to
>> even worry about it, since the only thing you'd want to have in a
>> lossless format is original media content.
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Re: understanding Dvd-r discs

2007-11-24 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ok, well I don't know the tech specifications so I can't exactly tell  
you the difference but you probably wouldn't want to worry about them  
unless you had a DVD recorder which was capable of things such as  
"chase playback" or "time shifting" or "editing", DVD-RAM discs allow  
these functions when used with compatible DVD Players.

On 25/11/2007, at 3:58 PM, David Tanner wrote:

> What is DVD - RAM and how do they differ from double density DVDs?
>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs
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>> Thought I'd follow this up with the cost factor. DVD-R discs I can  
>> buy
>> for $20.00 for a spindle of 50, DVD-RW'S about $29.00 for 50. DVD-RAM
>> discs are considerably more expensive and they don't come on a
>> spindle, they've about $2.50 each and they come in a standard-type CD
>> case, they can be used for 1000 re-writes.
>>
>> On 25/11/2007, at 4:34 AM, albert griffith wrote:
>>
>>> How many of these disks are on a spindle?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of nick danger
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:08 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: understanding Dvd-r discs
>>>
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> I'll try to answer as much of this as I can considering I do this
>>> style of
>>> backup all the time. I took each of the questions you have and the
>>> answers
>>> are right beneath.  So pardon the length of this gang and please
>>> feel free
>>> to weigh in if I've missed anything.
>>>
>>> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media
>>> such as
>>> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,
>>> the
>>> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to
>>> the dvd
>>> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
>>>
>>> Answer:
>>>
>>> There are two answers here.  First, Yes burning is the correct term,
>>> and you
>>> can save audio files such as MP3's on them just like you would a
>>> data CD.
>>>
>>> As for the second question here.  No, you cannot use windows media
>>> player to
>>> burn DVD'S  unless you're running vissta and that's a whole
>>> different kettle
>>> of fish.  You can get a program called deep burner which is a free
>>> rom-burning tool for the procedure. Go to http://www.deepburner.com
>>> to grab
>>> it.  It's totally accessible and very screen reader friendly.  I use
>>> it when
>>> I don't feel like using nero.  Grins. If you get the program just e-
>>> mail me
>>> offlist and I will help you with the burning procedure.  It's no
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,
>>> regardless of the
>>> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,
>>> including
>>> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I
>>> realize
>>> there will be exceptions, but if there is a general rule/answer to
>>> this
>>> question, I would love to be enlightened. Also, if I have stored a
>>> large
>>> number of files, contained in multiple folders on this dvd, will a
>>> person
>>> using a video dvd player be able to view the names of those folders
>>> and
>>> their files?
>>>
>>> Answer: On this one, I'm not totally however, I believe so, DVD rom-
>>> players
>>> can play just about anything that you stick in them.  Audio or
>>> video.  So
>>> that should not be a problem, and a person with sight should be able
>>> to see
>>> what's on it.  If anyone wants to weigh in on this, please do.
>>>
>>> 3. Amazon is offering a spindle of 100 dvd-r discs made by TDK for
>>> $26. Does
>>> this seem a good bargain?
>>>
>>> Answer: It's not a bad deal at all. I may consider buying them from
>>> there
>>> myself.  Thanks for that tip.
>>>
>>> Hopefully I was able to help.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Scott Blanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:41 AM
>>> Subject: understanding Dvd-r discs
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Forgive my ignorance on this topic, but I'm just now considering the
>>> purchase of dvd-r discs for some of my storage/personal needs. I
>>> realize
>>> however, that I know very little about the technology. Here are my
>>> questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Can dvd-r discs be used to store mp3 and other compresse media
>>> such as
>>> WMA? If so, is the process for burning, if that is the correct term,
>>> the
>>> same as burning a cd? For example, can I copy/paste or send items to
>>> the dvd
>>> drive on my pc, then perform a standard data burn via Windows Media?
>>> 2. Once I've gotten the mp3/WMA files onto the dvd-r disc,
>>> regardless of the
>>> method, can this disc then be played back in most dvd players,
>>> including
>>> video dvd players folks use in conjunction with their televisions? I
>>> reali

Re: Supercopyright Download

2007-11-24 Thread Sarah
Thanks. I'm grabbing it now.

SA&g
- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:11 PM
Subject: Supercopyright Download 


Here's the info from Send Space:

File Name: SUPERsetup.exe
Size: 26MB  
Description: supercopyright file converter 
Download Link: 
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0wqe4z 


Kelly 



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