[OpenIndiana-discuss] Reporting bugs - oi_148

[Matt Wilby]

Hi,

What’s the best place to report a bug in oi_148? 

There does not appear to be a bug tracker/reporting tool on the OI website.

Cheers,

Matt
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] video card for v40z

[Matt Wilby]

The server has the following slots free so you could pick a card that is 
compatible.

4 full-length (133MHz) 64-bit vertical slots (slots 4 through 7)
1 full-length (100MHz) 64-bit vertical slot (slot 3)
1 half-length (100MHz) 64-bit vertical slot (slot 2)
1 half-length (66MHz) 64-bit horizontal slot with riser (slot 1)

I might be wrong, but a Google cached listing of hardware parts doesn't list 
any graphics options for the server. 

 

On 12/01/2011 15:47, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

> On 01/12/11 06:34 AM, Daniel Kjar wrote:
>>  Don't mean to hijack but Alan, do you off hand know if there is a video card
>> that will work in a v40z?  That thing has a very primitive/odd built in video
>> card and sometimes I would like to do more than just ssh -X.  It works fine 
>> in
>> OI but the card is so slow it is painful to use as a console.  I have 
>> searched
>> all over but can't seem to find anything but warnings about not destroying 
>> your
>> motherboard by putting in certain kinds of cards never what was compatible or
>> appropriate for the machine.
> Sorry, but I don't know.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] inetadm and svcadm

[Matt Wilby]

What's the output of 'ps -ef'?


On 14/01/2011 18:51, ann kok wrote:

> Hello
>
> How I can know the service is under inetadm or svcadm?
>
> I can't find service in svcs -a 
>
> But I can see it in the ps -ef
>
> How do I know the service coming from?
>
> Thank you 
>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] inetadm and svcadm

[Matt Wilby]

Sorry I wasn't very clear. What's the output of 'ps -ef | grep '?


On 14/01/2011 18:56, Matt Wilby wrote:

> What's the output of 'ps -ef'?
>
>
> On 14/01/2011 18:51, ann kok wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> How I can know the service is under inetadm or svcadm?
>>
>> I can't find service in svcs -a 
>>
>> But I can see it in the ps -ef
>>
>> How do I know the service coming from?
>>
>> Thank you 
>>
>>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] inetadm and svcadm

[Matt Wilby]

SMF won't do anything with Nagios unless there is a manifest for it.

Have a look in /etc/init.d, there's probably a legacy script depending on how 
you installed it. You can start it with /etc/init.d/nagios start.

Here's a link from Google that might prove helpful.

http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/Installing-Nagios-on-Solaris-for-network-and-server-monitoring?asrc=EM_NLN_5591223&track=NL-832&ad=683882
 
<http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/Installing-Nagios-on-Solaris-for-network-and-server-monitoring?asrc=EM_NLN_5591223&track=NL-832&ad=683882>
 

You may want to look at some of the Nagios related forums.

Thanks.



On 14/01/2011 19:18, ann kok wrote:

> I can ps -ef|grep nagios 
>
> But I can't see how to start the nagios in it
>
> svcs -a list | grep nagios <== nothing
>
> How does it start?
>
> Thank you
>
> --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Matt Wilby  wrote:
>
>> From: Matt Wilby 
>> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] inetadm and svcadm
>> To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" 
>> Received: Friday, January 14, 2011, 2:01 PM
>> Sorry I wasn't very clear. What's the
>> output of 'ps -ef | grep '?
>>
>>
>> On 14/01/2011 18:56, Matt Wilby wrote:
>>
>>> What's the output of 'ps -ef'?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/01/2011 18:51, ann kok wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> How I can know the service is under inetadm or
>> svcadm?
>>>> I can't find service in svcs -a 
>>>>
>>>> But I can see it in the ps -ef
>>>>
>>>> How do I know the service coming from?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you 
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] inetadm and svcadm

[Matt Wilby]

Hi,

Do a 'ps -ef | grep nagios'. The third column gives you parent pid. What is it?

Matt


On 14/01/2011 19:53, ann kok wrote:

> Hi Matt
>
> I go to /etc/init.d
>
> There is no nagios script under this folder. 
>
> Do you have any idea?
>
> Thank you
>
> --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Matt Wilby  wrote:
>
>> From: Matt Wilby 
>> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] inetadm and svcadm
>> To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" 
>> Received: Friday, January 14, 2011, 2:25 PM
>> SMF won't do anything with Nagios
>> unless there is a manifest for it.
>>
>> Have a look in /etc/init.d, there's probably a legacy
>> script depending on how you installed it. You can start it
>> with /etc/init.d/nagios start.
>>
>> Here's a link from Google that might prove helpful.
>>
>> http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/Installing-Nagios-on-Solaris-for-network-and-server-monitoring?asrc=EM_NLN_5591223&track=NL-832&ad=683882
>> <http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/Installing-Nagios-on-Solaris-for-network-and-server-monitoring?asrc=EM_NLN_5591223&track=NL-832&ad=683882>
>>
>>
>> You may want to look at some of the Nagios related forums.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14/01/2011 19:18, ann kok wrote:
>>
>>> I can ps -ef|grep nagios 
>>>
>>> But I can't see how to start the nagios in it
>>>
>>> svcs -a list | grep nagios <== nothing
>>>
>>> How does it start?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Matt Wilby 
>> wrote:
>>>> From: Matt Wilby 
>>>> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] inetadm and
>> svcadm
>>>> To: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" 
>>>> Received: Friday, January 14, 2011, 2:01 PM
>>>> Sorry I wasn't very clear. What's the
>>>> output of 'ps -ef | grep > for>'?
>>>>
>>>> On 14/01/2011 18:56, Matt Wilby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's the output of 'ps -ef'?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14/01/2011 18:51, ann kok wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How I can know the service is under
>> inetadm or
>>>> svcadm?
>>>>>> I can't find service in svcs -a 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I can see it in the ps -ef
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I know the service coming from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Proposal: OpenIndiana Stable Branch

[Matt Wilby]

Maybe worth adding ZSH to the list (gets installed by default).

Postfix perhaps?

Cheers,

Matt


On 14/01/2011 20:36, Alasdair Lumsden wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I believe now would be a really good time for us to create our first stable 
> branch of OpenIndiana, given the timing of some developments within the 
> project.
>
> Below I've outlined my proposal and I'd love feedback from the community and 
> from OI developers!
>
> Obviously as a new project with a small (but growing) developer base, 
> providing support for the whole release isn't feasible - there are literally 
> thousands of packages in the distribution. But we have to start somewhere, so 
> I'm proposing we provide limited support (outlined below) for a set of core 
> packages.
>
> 
> * Why? *
> 
>
> Prior to the Oracle takeover, Solaris 10 was free to use in production, and 
> for a long time, security updates were provided free of charge. OpenSolaris 
> was also free to use, and updates were available by living on the bleeding 
> /dev edge. People were (mostly) happy.
>
> Then Sun hit financial difficulties and discontinued free security updates 
> for Solaris 10. Then Oracle happened, ending the free use of Solaris in 
> production.
>
> This has left people wishing to use Solaris technologies on their production 
> servers in a difficult position. They have to pay Oracle, or use 
> distributions that don't provide security updates. Or switch to Linux.
>
> There are a great many people who would jump at the chance to use Solaris if 
> there were a production ready version with security and bug fixes provided 
> for free.
>
> Indeed, this is what people have come to expect from mainstream UNIX 
> platforms - Linux distributions such as Debian, CentOS, Ubuntu, etc, provide 
> updates free of charge - and this is one of the reasons they have become so 
> popular.
>
> We have a real opportunity to capitalise on the situation left by Oracle, to 
> capture server market share away from OpenSolaris, Solaris 10, and give users 
> a migration path other than switching to Linux (which a lot of people are 
> doing).
>
> There are a lot of people out there who *really really* want a stable build 
> of OpenIndiana - myself included, and I believe OpenIndiana's best chance of 
> gaining acceptance, market share, and building a thriving development 
> community is by capturing the server market.
>
> There is also a risk that if we *don't* do this, we'll become an obscure 
> fringe distribution, like DragonflyBSD.
>
> The goal here is to be the *mainstream* accepted de-facto Solaris 
> distribution. Something people talk about and seriously consider using.
>
> Solaris contains killer technologies not seen on other platforms; 
> technologies like ZFS, Zones, SMF, DTrace, COMSTAR, Crossbow - I couldn't 
> live without any one of these, and we should capitalise on this while we can.
>
> It's also worth keeping in mind that despite warning users that oi_147 and 
> oi_148 were development releases, people are already using it in production 
> environments, myself included, due to a lack of alternatives. The great news 
> is that it has proven to be exceedingly reliable, and I have no hesitation in 
> recommending it for busy workloads. All we need to do is add security updates 
> and critical bug fixes on top and we'll be in a great position. No small feat 
> I grant you, but we can start off small and work our way up.
>
> Now is also an opportune time to do this - our next release will be based on 
> Illumos, which has seen rapid development and will involve some integration 
> pain. Some have called for a stable branch after Illumos is integrated, but 
> it could be many months until we have an Illumos dev build suitable for 
> respinning as a stable branch. That's months of lost opportunity.
>
> So I say we do it now.
>
> /dev builds will continue as normal, the next one will be Illumos based - 
> Desktop users can continue to use our /dev builds, and internet facing 
> servers can use the stable branch.
>
> *
> * What we'd provide *
> *
>
> The release would be aimed for February, and titled "2011.02". It would be 
> based
> on oi_148. We would only provide the Text Installer and Automated Installer
> ISOs.
>
> We would provide security and critical bug fixes only for:
>
> 1. OS/Net (The core OS consolidation)
> 2. A limited set of server oriented packages that have the greatest usage and
> attack "surface area". The initial list I can think of includes:
>
>  - OpenSSL
>  - Sendmail
>  - Perl 5.8.4
>  - Python 2.6
>  - Ruby
>  - zip, bzip2, gzip
>  - Apache HTTPD 2.2
>  - PHP 5.X
>  - MySQL 5.X.X
>  - Postgresql 8.4
>  - Java
>  - Tomcat
>  - GNU Coreutils
>  - GCC
>  - RSync
>  - ISC BIND
>  - Bash
>  - Curl
>  - wget
>
> We should also aim to provide security fixes for any bit of software in the 
> repo that allows an easily exploitable remote access vulnerability or root 
> privilege escalation, al

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Weird device naming with new HBA

[Matt Wilby]

The M5025 is a RAID controller, the LSI 9200-8E is a SAS HBA.

I suspect you probably had some hardware raid volume setup on the IBM 
controller perhaps?

The long names (WWNs) are quite normal if using SAS or FC.

Do you have MPxIO enabled?



On 19/01/2011 20:44, Gertjan Oude Lohuis wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just installed a new LSI 9200-8E SAS HBA which controls an IBM
> EXP2524 enclosure. Formerly an IBM M5025 RAID-controller did this.
> With the M5025 controller (also LSI) I got the normal device names in
> Solaris, like c2t0d0 up to c2t23d0.
>
> With the new controller, device names are ridiculous:
> c5t5000C5002C21BAF9d0
> c5t5000C5002C21C3C9d0
> c5t5000C5002C21D0DDd0
> c5t5000C5002C21D98Dd0
> and so forth, all 24 disks.
>
> Does anyone know what causes this? I haven't looked into it too much
> yet, will do tomorrow.
>
>
> Regards,
> Gertjan Oude Lohuis
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

[Matt Wilby]

On 21/01/2011 13:48, Michael Schuster wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 13:28, jay undernet  wrote:
>> Good idea.
> +1
>
>> we can add the build number of OI, categories and updates.
> please make sure it has good search capabilities!
>
> cheers
> Michael

I've created some pages on the Wiki which will provide a starting point
to record community hardware testing contributions. I'll start to create
some tables within each category over the next week or so.

Ken Mays is also doing some testing on Dell hardware. 

At the moment it's just on the Wiki. Over time we will no doubt have to
look at putting this into a database of some sorts. But we have to start
somewhere.

Just to stress, this will be based on information and feedback received
from the community. It's not a definitive guarantee or statement from
the project. Your mileage may vary. :-)
 
Cheers,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

[Matt Wilby]

On 21/01/2011 14:24, Daniel Kjar wrote:
>  Wouldn't it be easier to start with a simple html form and your
> favorite database backend?
>
> dumping everything out of a wiki into a more useful format will be  a
> pain.
>
> On 01/21/11 09:09 AM, Matt Wilby wrote:
>> On 21/01/2011 13:48, Michael Schuster wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 13:28, jay undernet  wrote:
>>>> Good idea.
>>> +1
>>>
>>>> we can add the build number of OI, categories and updates.
>>> please make sure it has good search capabilities!
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Michael
>> I've created some pages on the Wiki which will provide a starting point
>> to record community hardware testing contributions. I'll start to create
>> some tables within each category over the next week or so.
>>
>> Ken Mays is also doing some testing on Dell hardware.
>>
>> At the moment it's just on the Wiki. Over time we will no doubt have to
>> look at putting this into a database of some sorts. But we have to start
>> somewhere.
>>
>> Just to stress, this will be based on information and feedback received
>> from the community. It's not a definitive guarantee or statement from
>> the project. Your mileage may vary. :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Matt
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In an ideal world yes, but we can only work with what tools we have. At
the moment it's the Wiki.

I think it's more important to make a start and get something written
down if there is demand for it.

Open to ideas from the OI infrastructure guys.



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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL

[Matt Wilby]

On 21/01/2011 17:54, Rocky Shek wrote:
> Matt,
>
> We have done lot of test on Intel Server & various JBOD storage in our lab.
> We can also contribute to this list   
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Wilby [mailto:matthewwi...@btinternet.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:18 AM
> To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana
> Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI/Illumos HCL
>
> If there is interest in creating an HCL, I will get something setup on the
> wiki and maintain it.
>
> It will however rely on community contribution. As a project we don't have
> the resources yet to test every possible bit of kit out there.
>
> For the time being please feel free to email me and I'll add it to the list.
> Something along the lines of.
>
> Vendor
> Model
> Works?
> Notes/special instructions etc 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 21 Jan 2011, at 11:53, Dave Koelmeyer  wrote:
>
 I know it's early days, but what's the possibility of getting an HCL
> (Hardware
 Compatibility List) page setup on the OI website? This would give
> community
 members a chance to provide information on what works and what does not,
> and
 perhaps share experiences on how to fix/tune certain components specific
> to that
 hardware.

 With Openindianna moving away from the original Opensolaris code base
> sooner or
 later the original HCL will start to become out of date. While I don't
> expect OI
 to maintain a list of 'certified hardware' (yet) if the distribution is
> going to
 penetrate production environments such a site would prove useful, rather
> than
 the suck it and see approach at the moment. Might also take some of the
> load off
 the bug submission etc.

 For information, Opensolaris has been removed from the main Sun/Oracle
> HCLpage
 (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/) but is still accessiblehere
 (http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/).
>> Anybody wanting to take Matthew's suggestion and run with it? I don't know
> how to make this happen, perhaps a section on the Wiki or something, but
> given recent discussion over storage adaptors etc this would be a very
> useful resource.
>> -- 
>> Dave Koelmeyer
>> http://davekoelmeyer.wordpress.com/
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Hi Rocky,

Sure no problem. Ping me a list of hardware and I'll add it for you.

Thanks,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] HCL wiki format

[Matt Wilby]

On 24/01/2011 00:32, Christopher Chan wrote:
> Thanks Matt for creating the structure for the HCL on the wiki.
>
> I am starting to add stuff to the pages...and then I noticed that
> there is no 'format' for the HCL.
>
> Will a table with the following columns do?
>
> Hardware, Status, OI release, Driver
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Hi Christopher,

There is if you look under the systems part. I just haven't got round to
populating the components area yet :-)

I'm open to suggestions for additional columns.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to work

[Matt Wilby]

Rather than using ipadm, you can also do it the old fashioned way by creating 
/etc/hostname. and inserting the required hostname from /etc/hosts.

Where hostname can be something like bge0, e1000g0, eri0, hme0 etc.

Matt


On 28/01/2011 16:31, Deano wrote:

> My notes on static ip (not using NWAM) under OI from the default DHCP 
> 
> Update /etc/resolv.conf WITH DNS
> /etc/nsswitch.dns /etc/nsswitch.conf
> Update /etc/defaultrouter with GATEWAY
> route -p add default GATEWAY
> Update /etc/hosts
> svcadm disable network/physical:nwam
> svcadm enable network/physical:default 
> ipadm create-addr -T static -a HOSTNAME/24 LINK_NAME
>
> HTH,
> Deano
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Kvasnička [mailto:daniel.kvasnicka...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 28 January 2011 16:13
> To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
> Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to work
>
> Hi people,
>
>
> I'm trying to setup OpenIndiana b148 to use static IPv4 address and manually
> set up DNS servers. And I can't even ping my gateway.
> The problem is that the only acces to the machine I have is through VNC to
> the QEMU instance it runs in.
> Here is the link to screenshots showing what I've done with nwamcfg so far:
> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/1967301/1/oi?h=bfc6e1
>
>
> I've also:
> - checked /etc/resolv.conf for nameserver entries
> - ensured "dns" is entered in /etc/nsswitch.conf in appropriate places
> - entered appropriate line in /etc/nwam/llp (e1000g0 static
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/24)
> - checked that my gateway is in /etc/defaultrouter
> - tried to set 255.255.255.0 as mask using ifconfig, because ifconfig -a
> showed the mask is set to ff00
>
>
> What the hell am I doing wrong? :) Can the problem be somewhere outside the
> system? As I've said. It's a virtual instance running in a VM and I have no
> way to check the VM settings myself.
>
>
> Dan
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] need help those commands

[Matt Wilby]

I don't think you can do that in a non-global zone.

Have a read of this, specifically 5.4

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/features/articles/zones_partition.jsp


On 28/01/2011 17:02, ann kok wrote:

> HI
>
> I have error to use mdb -k even though I am super user
>
> mdb: failed to open /dev/kmem: permission denied
>
> and
>
> Can I use kstat in zfs zone?
>
> Thank you
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to work

[Matt Wilby]

Call me old fashioned, but I like my vi :-)


On 28/01/2011 17:43, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote:

> That is, change your tambourine dance style :)
> There is also modern fashioned way via GUI.
>
> On 28.01.2011 22:00, Matt Wilby wrote:
>> Rather than using ipadm, you can also do it the old fashioned way by
>> creating /etc/hostname.  and inserting the required
>> hostname from /etc/hosts.
>>
>> Where hostname can be something like bge0, e1000g0, eri0, hme0 etc.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On 28/01/2011 16:31, Deano wrote:
>>
>>> My notes on static ip (not using NWAM) under OI from the default DHCP
>>> 
>>> Update /etc/resolv.conf WITH DNS
>>> /etc/nsswitch.dns /etc/nsswitch.conf
>>> Update /etc/defaultrouter with GATEWAY
>>> route -p add default GATEWAY
>>> Update /etc/hosts
>>> svcadm disable network/physical:nwam
>>> svcadm enable network/physical:default
>>> ipadm create-addr -T static -a HOSTNAME/24 LINK_NAME
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Deano
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Daniel Kvasnička [mailto:daniel.kvasnicka...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 28 January 2011 16:13
>>> To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org
>>> Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Cannot get static IP network setup to
>>> work
>>>
>>> Hi people,
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm trying to setup OpenIndiana b148 to use static IPv4 address and
>>> manually
>>> set up DNS servers. And I can't even ping my gateway.
>>> The problem is that the only acces to the machine I have is through
>>> VNC to
>>> the QEMU instance it runs in.
>>> Here is the link to screenshots showing what I've done with nwamcfg
>>> so far:
>>> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/1967301/1/oi?h=bfc6e1
>>>
>>>
>>> I've also:
>>> - checked /etc/resolv.conf for nameserver entries
>>> - ensured "dns" is entered in /etc/nsswitch.conf in appropriate places
>>> - entered appropriate line in /etc/nwam/llp (e1000g0 static
>>> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/24)
>>> - checked that my gateway is in /etc/defaultrouter
>>> - tried to set 255.255.255.0 as mask using ifconfig, because
>>> ifconfig -a
>>> showed the mask is set to ff00
>>>
>>>
>>> What the hell am I doing wrong? :) Can the problem be somewhere
>>> outside the
>>> system? As I've said. It's a virtual instance running in a VM and I
>>> have no
>>> way to check the VM settings myself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] admin & sic_team consolidations?

[Matt Wilby]

>From the wiki -

"The sic_team consolidation consists of the Netscape Network Security Services 
libraries (NSS and NSS for Java), and have package prototypes in 
mozilla-central ."

"The admin consolidation is mostly closed, with the exceptions of 
SUNWDTraceToolkit, SUNWpython-lxml, and SUNWpython26-lxml."


On 29/01/2011 10:02, Gary wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
>
>> I don't think they have a fixed maintainer, for the last release
>> I believe they were built by Onno.
> But what do they contain?
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] equivalents for SUNWcryr/SUNWcry?

[Matt Wilby]

On 31/01/2011 18:05, Richard Lowe wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:51, Brett Dikeman  wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Richard Lowe  wrote:
>>> You shouldn't need to do anything, the functionality formally provided by
>>> SUNWcry* (the encryption kit) was
>>> folded in the base OS a couple of years ago.
>>>
>>> Forcing an install would (I think) be a really bad idea.
>> I meant force installing of Legato networker, not the SUNWcry*
>> packages...is this what you meant as well?
> Ah, no.  I thought you meant forcing an install of the old SUNWcry.  I
> don't know about Networker.
> If that's its only complaint, I think it should be ok, but it's just a guess.
>
> -- Rich
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You can force the install of Networker, but on starting nsrexecd it will
complain about libssl (or something like that) and then dump a core file.

This is true of Networker 7.6.1, not sure about earlier versions. I
haven't found a way around it yet.

I raised an RFE with EMC to support Sol 11 Express but have so far heard
nothing back.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI 148 and HP Server with SmartArray 5i controller

[Matt Wilby]

On 01/02/2011 18:16, Kirill Ponazdyr wrote:
> Hi Albert,
>
> I have tried both suggestions, the -vk does not reboot the machine on
> panic and drops into debugger but the actual panic scrolls over the
> screen, is there a way to scroll back in the screen buffer like with BSD
> (Scroll Lock)?
>
> The '-B disable-cpqary3=true' appended to Kernel does not help, I still
> get the panic when SmartArray 5i is enabled in Bios.
>
> Is there some other way to fix this or do I have to roll my own install
> DVD's / PXE environment?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kirill
>
>> It's probably this bug:
>> https://www.illumos.org/issues/348
>>  - you can confirm by booting with -vk appended to the kernel line
>> which will keep the panic message visible.
>>
>>
>> Adding disable-cpqary3=true to the comma separated list after -B will
>> disable the driver temporarily so you can replace it.
>>
>> -Albert
>>
>

Just a thought, are you running a recent rompaq/firmware on the
controller and the server?

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Need thoughts on OpenIndiana+ZFS for backup server

[Matt Wilby]

On 05/02/2011 10:53, Basil Kurian wrote:
> Hi all
>
>
> Currently in our company we are having a Dragonfly BSD backup server with
> Hammer filesystem in it. One senior system administrator in our compay chose
> Hammer filesystem some times back, because Hammer filesystem can easily
> recover in times of power failures. I 'm compelling him to move to ZFS (on
> FreeBSD or OpenIndiana). How durable is data on an ZFS pool (RAID or mirror)
> when  power failure happen frequently.
>

Hi,

I use ZFS on my backup servers. I can't say we've ever had power
failures because they're in a datacenter, but I would invest in a decent
UPS if it's a regular occurrence. Hard drives don't generally like
having power suddenly removed.

ZFS on OpenIndiana will give you nice features like file system
compression, dedupe, snapshots and constant checksumming of of in-use
blocks.

I've never used Hammer before, but HammerFS doesn't appear to offer
compression yet.

Just my opinion, but I'd say ZFS is more widely used than Hammer.

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Need thoughts on OpenIndiana+ZFS for backup server

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On 05/02/2011 11:28, Basil Kurian wrote:
> Here we are running backup servers only during business hours (web
> development firm). At the end of day , Sometimes the servers are powered
> off  , without issuing any commands to shutdown them cleanly.
>
> On 5 February 2011 16:45, Matt Wilby  wrote:
>
>> On 05/02/2011 10:53, Basil Kurian wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>>
>>> Currently in our company we are having a Dragonfly BSD backup server with
>>> Hammer filesystem in it. One senior system administrator in our compay
>> chose
>>> Hammer filesystem some times back, because Hammer filesystem can easily
>>> recover in times of power failures. I 'm compelling him to move to ZFS
>> (on
>>> FreeBSD or OpenIndiana). How durable is data on an ZFS pool (RAID or
>> mirror)
>>> when  power failure happen frequently.
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use ZFS on my backup servers. I can't say we've ever had power
>> failures because they're in a datacenter, but I would invest in a decent
>> UPS if it's a regular occurrence. Hard drives don't generally like
>> having power suddenly removed.
>>
>> ZFS on OpenIndiana will give you nice features like file system
>> compression, dedupe, snapshots and constant checksumming of of in-use
>> blocks.
>>
>> I've never used Hammer before, but HammerFS doesn't appear to offer
>> compression yet.
>>
>> Just my opinion, but I'd say ZFS is more widely used than Hammer.
>>
>> Matt
>>
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I don't understand why you would ever want to shut a server down in this
way.

Can't you just setup a cron to shut them down at a certain time?


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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Need thoughts on OpenIndiana+ZFS for backup server

[Matt Wilby]

On 05/02/2011 13:03, Gary Gendel wrote:
> I tend to agree with Matt.
>
> I've had several catastrophic power incidence on my server running
> OpenSolaris without incident (such as a UPS gone haywire).  Since ZFS
> does transaction-safe reads and writes, the consistency on the disk
> has an extremely low probability of getting corrupt. But there are
> always two things to consider...  Powering off the server this way
> could cause the disks themselves to write garbage and ZFS (or any
> other filesystem) won't have the opportunity to fix it.  Also, there
> may be pending things in the ZFS cache which won't be written.  You
> can disable the ZFS cache, but that will impact performance.
>
> If it's a situation where you don't have control over the servers
> (someone turns off the master switch), then I truly suggest that you
> put a UPS on the server and have a daemon (nut, apsupcd, etc.) that
> get's the signal that the power has been killed and shuts down the
> servers gracefully.
>
> Based upon the goals of Hammer, it looks like ZFS covers them all.  It
> looks like, on Hammer, you have to run a a prune/reblock on the
> filesystem nightly to conserve resources.  I would assume that heavily
> pounding during the day will limit the effective utilization greatly. 
> How much overhead do you need for the prune/reblock, 10%, 20%?  What
> happens if there isn't enough room to run it?
>
> You're skirting on very thin ice if you pull the plug to shut down the
> servers no matter what system you use.  Interestingly, there are no
> specs for Hammer in the FS comparison chart.  This doesn't sound like
> a seasoned production filesystem which would scare me even more.
>
> On 2/5/11 6:35 AM, Matt Wilby wrote:
>> On 05/02/2011 11:28, Basil Kurian wrote:
>>   
>>> Here we are running backup servers only during business hours (web
>>> development firm). At the end of day , Sometimes the servers are
>>> powered
>>> off  , without issuing any commands to shutdown them cleanly.
>>>
>>> On 5 February 2011 16:45, Matt Wilby 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>> On 05/02/2011 10:53, Basil Kurian wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently in our company we are having a Dragonfly BSD backup
>>>>> server with
>>>>> Hammer filesystem in it. One senior system administrator in our
>>>>> compay
>>>>>  
>>>> chose
>>>>   
>>>>> Hammer filesystem some times back, because Hammer filesystem can
>>>>> easily
>>>>> recover in times of power failures. I 'm compelling him to move to
>>>>> ZFS
>>>>>  
>>>> (on
>>>>   
>>>>> FreeBSD or OpenIndiana). How durable is data on an ZFS pool (RAID or
>>>>>  
>>>> mirror)
>>>>   
>>>>> when  power failure happen frequently.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I use ZFS on my backup servers. I can't say we've ever had power
>>>> failures because they're in a datacenter, but I would invest in a
>>>> decent
>>>> UPS if it's a regular occurrence. Hard drives don't generally like
>>>> having power suddenly removed.
>>>>
>>>> ZFS on OpenIndiana will give you nice features like file system
>>>> compression, dedupe, snapshots and constant checksumming of of in-use
>>>> blocks.
>>>>
>>>> I've never used Hammer before, but HammerFS doesn't appear to offer
>>>> compression yet.
>>>>
>>>> Just my opinion, but I'd say ZFS is more widely used than Hammer.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
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>> I don't understand why you would ever want to shut a server down in this
>> way.
>>
>> Can't you just setup a cron to shut them down at a certain time?
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One other thing to consider if you are going to use Hammer is that it
appears to require a cron job to be run to free up space/blocks in order
to recover space on the file system.

To quote the manual -

"The system cron automatically runs HAMMER cleanup functions at least
once a day."


So obviously make sure you move the cron job to run whenever the server
is up. Don't know how this impacts operational performance. I would feel
uneasy about relying on a cron job to perform essential file system tasks.






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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] minimum hardware requirements for OI build environment

[Matt Wilby]

On 13/02/2011 18:50, Ron McDowell wrote:
> I'd like to set up a [VMware] image where I can play with building
> OI.  What would be a bare-minimum, and a "recommended" memory/disk
> size for doing so? I don't see anything about that in the wiki or
> FAQ.  Thanks.
>

Hi,

Yes, we do appear to be missing that page, i'll update the FAQ. It
should be roughly the same as S11 Express.

Disk space Disk space: Recommended size is 7GB. A minimum of 3GB is
required.

Memory Memory: The minimum requirement is 512MB. Recommended
size is 768MB

Cheers,

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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] RFC: OI website brain storm page

[Matt Wilby]

On 18/02/2011 13:34, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote:
> I have already said that the OpenIndiana project definitely needs a
> forum (not just mailing list), because many people do not want to
> subscribe to a mailing list, and want to keep their mailboxes free
> from regular mailing. They would be happy though to look into a forum
> when they want to.
>
> I have contacted Alasdair directly about this some time ago, but did
> not get any reply.
>
> I vote for forum.
>
> Dmitry.
>
>
> On 18.02.2011 17:43, Gerald Davies wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 23:54, jay undernet  wrote:
 http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Website-Ideas

>> Can anyone actually sign up? Had a permissions problem just a moment
>> ago.
>>
>> Idea: have an OI Forums page, like ubuntuforums.org, if one doesn't
>> already exist.
>>
>> That will massively aid people making the switch, not just a 'from
>> Linux to OI' page.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Hi Dmitry,

A web based forum is being considered as part of the website re-design.

It was discussed in the last oi-meeting, and was on the agenda for
several weeks. I have also added it to the suggestion list.

Alasdair is a busy guy. He will get round to replying to you when he can.

Thanks,

Matt


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